RHW (RealHighway) - Development and Support

[noahclem]

Perhaps a CL change to "Mr Override" or "Mr RUL" is in order 

Pretty fantastic looking stuff Alex 

[Haljackey]

7.5m el-RHW. They look so short!

Guess that happens when you are used to 15m high overpasses .

Great work guys!

[GDO29Anagram]

Perhaps a CL change to "Mr Override" or "Mr RUL" is in order 

It should be noted that there are a lot of things in RHW that are RUL-0 (Puzzle Pieces: Ramps and Overpass Pieces) that are being converted to RUL-2 (Overrides) when it was previously thought that RUL-0 was the only way (or the best way).

[mike3775]

7.5m el-RHW. They look so short!

Guess that happens when you are used to 15m high overpasses .

Great work guys!

Yeah it is going to take some getting used to being able to build such low overpasses 

[ps2owner]

Just had to log in and say that you're awesome, Tarkus!
I officially can not wait for the next RHW.

[Tarkus]

Thanks for all the kind words, everyone!  I'm glad everyone is as excited by the new developments as I am--and yes, the 7.5m stuff did take a little getting used to for me, too.

It should be noted that there are a lot of things in RHW that are RUL-0 (Puzzle Pieces: Ramps and Overpass Pieces) that are being converted to RUL-2 (Overrides) when it was previously thought that RUL-0 was the only way (or the best way).

That's actually been an on-going trend aiming toward that since Draggable GLR in 2007 . . . though it's reached a new level due to overrideable FLEX techniques. 

There's some items that have actually gone in the reverse direction, however.  Turn lanes are the most prominent example, in large part because of the software engineering disaster that draggable turn lane setups (especially the Road Turning Lanes) created when trying to implement override networks on top of them.  It took almost as much code to get the NWM to play nice with the Road Turning Lanes Plugin as it did to code the NWM in the first place.  Items that require or merit "finer control" like that, and especially the cosmetic pieces, make the most sense as puzzle pieces.

-Alex

[mike3775]

I for one am glad you have the patience that seems to be required in order to do all of this Tarkus. 

And that goes for everyone involved in any aspect of the NAM or NWM

[packerfan386]

Will those chevrons be optional? Because some states don't use chevrons, my state for example uses diagonal hatches

They'll be included by default, but it'll be possible to easily change them.  I still have "chevronless" textures around that could be packaged up . . . someone else will probably have to do diagonal hatches, though.

That's cool, just as long the chevrons are an opt-out thing.

[dragonshardz]

Chevrons? Fewer puzzle pieces? Better functionality?

Yes please!

[woodb3kmaster]

And this is a taste of what can happen now . . .

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Just need to add some more overrides in, and then the old puzzle pieces will become "officially" obsolete.

-Alex

I've seen enough RHW development pics to know where this is going. Finally, my RHW dreams are coming true! This is great work, Alex!

[chosenreject]

Well, I could always make some NEL-CPs (Narrow Exit Lane Cosmetic Pieces) for the RHW-2 I need to add some CPs anyway for the next RHW version...

May i suggest some 8C and 6C entrance and exit lane CPs? i don't think those networks have any. Is it possible to have the HOV lanes with the center median also? I really enjoy your cosmetic pieces they add so much to the RHW 

[GDO29Anagram]

Is it possible to have the HOV lanes with the center median also?

Technically, the 6C, 7C, and 8C already have HOV lane median pieces (and they've been there since V5; They're strictly eyecandy, though). They all share the same median.

[chosenreject]

Is it possible to have the HOV lanes with the center median also?

Technically, the 6C, 7C, and 8C already have HOV lane median pieces (and they've been there since V5; They're strictly eyecandy, though). They all share the same median.

i am sorry, when i said median i meant to say hov lanes with the concrete barrier in between. when i plop the hov lanes the concrete barrier dissapears. unless maybe i am missing a file?

[GDO29Anagram]

i am sorry, when i said median i meant to say hov lanes with the concrete barrier in between. when i plop the hov lanes the concrete barrier dissapears. unless maybe i am missing a file?

That's because we didn't T21 in the barrier.

[AngryBirdsFan436]

Is this possible? a ground RHW-6C on top of an elevated RHW-6C?

[Tarkus]

Are you talking about a perpendicular overpass--e.g. something like this (but with 6C instead of 8C)?



If so, yes.

If you're referring to a 6C stacked on top of another 6C in a double-decker fashion, the answer is no, we will not be adding that, now or ever.

I should add a little note about mod progress . . . I've shifted gears toward fixing up some path files, and have nearly finished the ground-level RHW-2, MIS and RHW-4.

-Alex

[Moonraker0]

If you're referring to a 6C stacked on top of another 6C in a double-decker fashion, the answer is no, we will not be adding that, now or ever.

Which is because they can't be added, AngryBirdsFan436, not necessarily because the NAM team doesn't want to.  The cars would jump between decks because of a game bug.  Just thought I'd clear that up.

[GDO29Anagram]

The cars would jump between decks because of a game bug.

Not a bug, a limitation. There's a difference.

All paths are read two-dimensionally and height is disregarded. Doesn't matter how high the paths or offset the paths are; It would be no different than a ground-level network with an extra set of paths that coincide.

Capacity is an even bigger problem. Once again, not a bug, a limitation.

[dragonshardz]

I suppose a DDRHW6C would be technically possible, by using rail like DDRHW4 and having one deck go each direction, but the interface with anything else would be horribly messy.

[Indiana Joe]

I never even got the point of double decker RHW in the first place.  It's very uncommon in RL and I haven't found a use for it in SC4.  Don't be distracted by things like that!  Back to coding to eliminate puzzle pieces!