Windows 7

[Jonathan]

explorer is the desktop, taskbar, start menu and the thing you use to view files on your computer, firefox is not a replacement for this.

Internet explorer is what you browse the web with, this is what firefox replaces.

So do you mean when you run SC4 the taskbar(the bar at the bottomof the screen with start menu and icons) dissapears? or Internet Explorer ("the internet") crashes?

Jonathan

[Boerentoren]

I meant that the taskbar crashes.

sometimes I can manually remove it with  windows task manager ('ctrl al del') and then restart it, but that only works seldom.

Anyway, It makes my pc crash ( I can't shut down properly, when I try to reboot it takes minutes to shut down and sometimes i need to reboot 2-3 times before windows starts up again...)

[dragonshardz]

That's strange. I had the same exact video card as you, though with x64 Vista instead of x32 W7, and SC4 ran just fine. I've also run SC4 on a W7 test machine running x64 W7 and SC4 has had no issues.

It shouldn't be having any problems, especially on an x32 system, since SC4 was written for x32 systems. It may be that you have a virus on your system that has affected or infected the .exe file for SC4. (Unlikely, yes, but still possible.)

Do you have an antivirus installed? If yes, what is it?

As a note, do not under any circumstances delete Windows Explorer. You will need to install W7 again if you do.

[Boerentoren]

Hmm strange indeed,

would it be helpful if I posted my latest Sim City exception report? Can you get possible info from it?

tnx

[dragonshardz]

So far, no one is able to decode those exception reports, but it might help.

[SC4BOY]

The hardware numbers are useless.. but the brief verbage near the beginning and end CAN help folk see what your problem might be

[Boerentoren]

Here's my exception report, hope this helps....


Exception time: 01/20/2010, at 22:09:08.
Exception code: 0xC0000005 (-1073741819) ACCESS_VIOLATION.
Current thread ID: 5488 (0x00001570).
Version information:
Application/module path: C:\Maxis\SIMCIT~1\Apps\SimCity 4.exe
Application/module version name: SimCity 4
Application/module version: 1.1.613.0
System version: Windows NT 6.1
System memory: 2048 Megabytes total, 728 Megabytes free.

Exception module:  .
Exception address: 0x00000000. Section:Offset: 0x00:0x00000000.

Registers
   EAX: 174f0b90
   EBX: 00fe4944
   ECX: 174f0a78
   EDX: 00fe4940
   ESI: 1875f5f4
   EDI: 1875f5fc
   CS:EIP: 001b:00000000
   SS:ESP: 0023:0012fcdc  EBP:0012fd3c
   DS:0023  ES:0023  FS:003b  GS:0000
   Flags: 00210206

Loaded Modules
   Address          Size Module             Path
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   0x00400000    8187904 SimCity 4.exe      C:\Maxis\SIMCIT~1\Apps\SimCity 4.exe
   0x774a0000    1294336 ntdll.dll          C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll
   0x76bf0000     868352 kernel32.dll       C:\Windows\system32\kernel32.dll
   0x758a0000     303104 KERNELBASE.dll     C:\Windows\system32\KERNELBASE.dll
   0x766e0000     823296 USER32.dll         C:\Windows\system32\USER32.dll
   0x76910000     319488 GDI32.dll          C:\Windows\system32\GDI32.dll
   0x758f0000      40960 LPK.dll            C:\Windows\system32\LPK.dll
   0x772b0000     643072 USP10.dll          C:\Windows\system32\USP10.dll
   0x77350000     704512 msvcrt.dll         C:\Windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
   0x77400000     655360 ADVAPI32.dll       C:\Windows\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
   0x76ce0000     102400 sechost.dll        C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\sechost.dll
   0x77620000     659456 RPCRT4.dll         C:\Windows\system32\RPCRT4.dll
   0x73f70000      28672 WSOCK32.dll        C:\Windows\system32\WSOCK32.dll
   0x775e0000     217088 WS2_32.dll         C:\Windows\system32\WS2_32.dll
   0x766d0000      24576 NSI.dll            C:\Windows\system32\NSI.dll
   0x75950000     999424 WININET.dll        C:\Windows\system32\WININET.dll
   0x76d00000     356352 SHLWAPI.dll        C:\Windows\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
   0x76cd0000      12288 Normaliz.dll       C:\Windows\system32\Normaliz.dll
   0x76fb0000    1265664 urlmon.dll         C:\Windows\system32\urlmon.dll
   0x770f0000    1425408 ole32.dll          C:\Windows\system32\ole32.dll
   0x767b0000     585728 OLEAUT32.dll       C:\Windows\system32\OLEAUT32.dll
   0x75670000    1163264 CRYPT32.dll        C:\Windows\system32\CRYPT32.dll
   0x75660000      49152 MSASN1.dll         C:\Windows\system32\MSASN1.dll
   0x769f0000    2068480 iertutil.dll       C:\Windows\system32\iertutil.dll
   0x75a50000   12881920 SHELL32.dll        C:\Windows\system32\SHELL32.dll
   0x6c990000     466944 DSOUND.dll         C:\Windows\system32\DSOUND.dll
   0x71650000     204800 WINMM.dll          C:\Windows\system32\WINMM.dll
   0x738f0000     151552 POWRPROF.dll       C:\Windows\system32\POWRPROF.dll
   0x76d60000    1691648 SETUPAPI.dll       C:\Windows\system32\SETUPAPI.dll
   0x75870000     159744 CFGMGR32.dll       C:\Windows\system32\CFGMGR32.dll
   0x757c0000      73728 DEVOBJ.dll         C:\Windows\system32\DEVOBJ.dll
   0x749e0000      36864 VERSION.dll        C:\Windows\system32\VERSION.dll
   0x70800000     819200 OPENGL32.dll       C:\Windows\system32\OPENGL32.dll
   0x70970000     139264 GLU32.dll          C:\Windows\system32\GLU32.dll
   0x6c180000     946176 DDRAW.dll          C:\Windows\system32\DDRAW.dll
   0x73630000      24576 DCIMAN32.dll       C:\Windows\system32\DCIMAN32.dll
   0x740d0000      77824 dwmapi.dll         C:\Windows\system32\dwmapi.dll
   0x71cb0000     135168 MSVFW32.dll        C:\Windows\system32\MSVFW32.dll
   0x757e0000     540672 COMCTL32.dll       C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_5.82.7600.16385_none_ebf82fc36c758ad5\COMCTL32.dll
   0x76f80000     126976 IMM32.dll          C:\Windows\system32\IMM32.dll
   0x76840000     835584 MSCTF.dll          C:\Windows\system32\MSCTF.dll
   0x75520000     307200 apphelp.dll        C:\Windows\system32\apphelp.dll
   0x63bc0000    2195456 AcGenral.DLL       C:\Windows\AppPatch\AcGenral.DLL
   0x75500000     106496 SspiCli.dll        C:\Windows\system32\SspiCli.dll
   0x74400000     262144 UxTheme.dll        C:\Windows\system32\UxTheme.dll
   0x73e80000      61440 samcli.dll         C:\Windows\system32\samcli.dll
   0x6c8c0000      81920 MSACM32.dll        C:\Windows\system32\MSACM32.dll
   0x6bb10000      12288 sfc.dll            C:\Windows\system32\sfc.dll
   0x6bab0000      53248 sfc_os.DLL         C:\Windows\system32\sfc_os.DLL
   0x74cb0000      94208 USERENV.dll        C:\Windows\system32\USERENV.dll
   0x755f0000      45056 profapi.dll        C:\Windows\system32\profapi.dll
   0x717e0000      73728 MPR.dll            C:\Windows\system32\MPR.dll
   0x10000000     638976 ~df394b.tmp        C:\Users\Michael\AppData\Local\Temp\~efbe40\~df394b.tmp
   0x75570000      49152 CRYPTBASE.dll      C:\Windows\system32\CRYPTBASE.dll
   0x003c0000     225280 SysHook.dll        C:\Program Files\Acer\Acer PowerSaver\SysHook.dll
   0x71a10000     331776 WINSPOOL.DRV       C:\Windows\system32\WINSPOOL.DRV
   0x76fa0000      20480 psapi.dll          C:\Windows\system32\psapi.dll
   0x74580000    1695744 comctl32.dll       C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.7600.16385_none_421189da2b7fabfc\comctl32.dll
   0x76960000     536576 CLBCatQ.DLL        C:\Windows\system32\CLBCatQ.DLL
   0x74440000    1003520 propsys.dll        C:\Windows\system32\propsys.dll
   0x73a00000     135168 ntmarta.dll        C:\Windows\system32\ntmarta.dll
   0x75900000     282624 WLDAP32.dll        C:\Windows\system32\WLDAP32.dll
   0x73d80000     335872 rasapi32.dll       C:\Windows\system32\rasapi32.dll
   0x73d60000      86016 rasman.dll         C:\Windows\system32\rasman.dll
   0x750a0000      90112 CRYPTSP.dll        C:\Windows\system32\CRYPTSP.dll
   0x74e40000     241664 rsaenh.dll         C:\Windows\system32\rsaenh.dll
   0x751b0000      94208 bcrypt.dll         C:\Windows\system32\bcrypt.dll
   0x74c70000     249856 bcryptprimitives.d C:\Windows\system32\bcryptprimitives.dll
   0x751d0000     229376 ncrypt.dll         C:\Windows\system32\ncrypt.dll
   0x74b20000      90112 GPAPI.dll          C:\Windows\system32\GPAPI.dll
   0x6c890000     114688 cryptnet.dll       C:\Windows\system32\cryptnet.dll
   0x71790000      24576 SensApi.dll        C:\Windows\system32\SensApi.dll
   0x6c870000      86016 Cabinet.dll        C:\Windows\system32\Cabinet.dll
   0x74b40000      57344 DEVRTL.dll         C:\Windows\system32\DEVRTL.dll
   0x62900000    7733248 nvd3dum.dll        C:\Windows\system32\nvd3dum.dll
   0x6c7a0000     835584 D3DIM700.DLL       C:\Windows\system32\D3DIM700.DLL
   0x740f0000     233472 MMDevApi.dll       C:\Windows\System32\MMDevApi.dll
   0x6c8f0000     221184 AUDIOSES.DLL       C:\Windows\system32\AUDIOSES.DLL
   0x74f20000     278528 dnsapi.DLL         C:\Windows\system32\dnsapi.DLL
   0x733d0000     114688 iphlpapi.DLL       C:\Windows\system32\iphlpapi.DLL
   0x733c0000      28672 WINNSI.DLL         C:\Windows\system32\WINNSI.DLL
   0x738e0000      28672 avrt.dll           C:\Windows\system32\avrt.dll
   0x6d510000     507904 DbgHelp.dll        C:\Maxis\SIMCIT~1\Apps\DbgHelp.dll

Call stack:
(Debug information (.pdb files) appears to be absent).
0x0000:0x00000000 .

[SC4BOY]

For one thing it looks like you have not applied ANY of the Maxis patches.. your version number is 1.1.613.0 and it should be at least 638 and preferably 640 (nightlight patch)

[Boerentoren]

i've just downloaded the 638 patch but it says that the patch won't work if i already modified my game (with plugins)... Is this true?

What if I back up my plugins, apply the patch and then paste them back, would this work??

[dragonshardz]

Yes. You might lose your already-built cities, so back them up as well.

[SC4BOY]

The plugins are not important, but you may not have modified SC4 install files (ie if you use a no-cd crack, or if you installed a "one processor affinity patch" etc.. they must be as installed by the install CD.

[frdrcklim]

So, I've finally installed a legitimate non-evaluation copy of Windows 7 and it's 64-bit about a month ago. Apparently, I'm having a slight problem. SC4 seems to work fine except that there are minor things that aren't rendered properly. I see the occasional jagged triangles similar to that of what u usually see when you overclock ur GPU. I tried compatibility mode and the jagged triangles still appear. I'm thinking maybe I'm just using a 64-bit OS, but from wat I'm seeing here, I guess not. I'll try unloading my drivers maybe later, but I'd like to hear other people first as to how this is resolved .

[monet.67]

Good morning all,

Could someone tell me if SC4D runs well on Windows 7, 64bits.

Is someone playing the game in a Toshiba T110?

Thanks

[dragonshardz]

monet.67: I have installed SC4 on a machine running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, and the game works fine.

frdrcklim: *shrugs* I dunno. It's worked fine for me so far, so...

[ltrskn]

frdrcklim: Same problem with graphics here on windows 7 64-bit; problem went away when I reverted back to an earlier version of my nvidia video drivers. The latest version caused rendering problems; older versions did not.

[frdrcklim]

Unno wat. I kinda noticed that. That sucks. Anyway, I tried software mode. It didn't seem to fix the problem. The artifacts were still there. I guess I really should have two drivers from now on or something like that.

[vil]

Im on Win7 32 bit and NVIDIA card, the new 196.75 drivers seem to work OK now, rendering bugs squashed. 

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us