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Title: WEST END
Post by: paroch on September 01, 2007, 03:12:02 AM
Welcome to WEST END.

TABLE OF CONTENTS:


Update 80 - 22nd February 2009 - A video to celebrate IPON International Day of Peace.           
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg224173#msg224173

Update 79 - 15th February 2009 - 12 new pictures from Carnaby                                     
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg222271#msg222271


Update 78 - 11th January 2009 - 18 new pictures from Sisson International Airport           
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg213980#msg213980

Double Zero Club 1,000 - To commemorate Jmouse making the 1,000th post here in West End
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg213780#msg213780

Update 77 - 3rd January 2009 -  17 new pictures from Carnaby and introducing Sisson International Airport
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg212388#msg212388

Update 76 - 27th December 2008 - A video showing the story of Hay, a small rural farming community
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg210741#msg210741

Update 75 - 20th December 2008 - 12 new pictures from Berners, a small rural quad                           
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg209175#msg209175

Update 74 - 13th December 2008 - 16 new pictures from Berners, a small rural quad                     
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg207769#msg207769

Update 73 - 7th December 2008 - 10 new pictures from the Piccadilly Peninsular                                   
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg206289#msg206289

Update 72 - 29th November 2008 - Piccadilly Botanical Gardens.  Pictures from the Lot Editor and the finished gardens.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg203588#msg203588

Update 71 - 24th November 2008 - West End's best video yet of The Peninsular.                                 
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg202090#msg202090

Update 70 - 19th November 2008 - 10 new pictures from Piccadilly
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg200746#msg200746

Update 69 - 17th November 2008 - A large mosaic from the Edwards Bay District of Piccadilly.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg200113#msg200113

Double Zero Club Award for Poster number 900
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/Themes/SC4D08/images/post/xx.gif

West End's Film Theme Tunes and MD Quiz - 15th November 2008
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg199234#msg199234

Update 67:  9th November 2008 - 6 new pictures including a mosaic of Piccadilly's Central District.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/Themes/SC4D08/images/post/xx.gif

Update 66:  Bonfire Night - The history of Bonfire Night and how it's celebrated in West End
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg196454#msg196454

Update 65:  3rd November 2008 - 13 new pictures from Piccadilly
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg195828#msg195828

Update 64:  1st November 2008 - 15 new pictures from Piccadilly           
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg195084#msg195084

Update 63:  16th October 2008 - 20 new pictures from Piccadilly                       
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg190044#msg190044

Double Zero Club 800:  12th October 2008
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg188694#msg188694

Update 62:  21st September 2008 - 13 new pictures of the Continental Cup in Piccadilly
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg182406#msg182406

Update 61:  13th September 2008 - 13 new pictures of Piccadilly
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/Themes/SC4D08/images/post/xx.gif

Update 60:  7th September 2008 - 4 new sports pictures from Piccadilly
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg178472#msg178472

Update 59:  1st September 2008 - The First Anniversary Video
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/Themes/SC4D08/images/post/xx.gif

Update 58:  30th August 2008 - 15 new pictures from the small town of Dean                     
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg176259#msg176259

Update 57:  21st August 2008 - A video of the Simlympic Torch Relay through West End                 
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg174325#msg174325

Double Zero Club Honour for 700th post to Diggis
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg174039#msg174039

Update 56:  15th August 2008 - 13 new pictures of the waterside of Charing Cross
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg173011#msg173011

Update 55:  1st August 2008 - 15 new pictures of the farms and rural areas of Charing Cross                   
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg170022#msg170022

Update 54:  28th July 2008 - A three picture update of the North Senna Towers and a farming teaser       
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg169139#msg169139

Update 53:  12th July 2008 - 10 new pictures showing the redevelopment of Thistle Point and North Senna Towers
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg165754#msg165754

Update 52:  6th July 2008 - 9 new pictures including 4 mosaics showing the suburbs of West End
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg164364#msg164364

Update 51:  29th June 2008 - The final of Devo 08, plus 21 new pictures from Charing Cross.         
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg162659#msg162659

Update 50:  26th June 2008 - Semi Final action from Devo 08, plus 10 new pictures from Charing Cross.           
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg161789#msg161789

Update 49:  22nd June 2008 - Quarter Final Action from Devo 08, plus 13 new pictures from Chating Cross.     
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg160642#msg160642

Update 48:  18th June 2008 - The last of the Group matches from Devo 08 plus 11 teasers from Charing Cross.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg159358#msg159358

Update 47: 14th June 2008 - More from Devo 08, The latest double zero club inductee plus teasers from Charing Cross.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg157766#msg157766

Update 46: 12th June 2008 - Latest match reports from Devo 08
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg157209#msg157209

Update 45: 10th June 2008 - Match reports from Devo 08 plus the top six pics from Kingly
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg156665#msg156665

Update 44:  8th June 2008 - First matches from Devo 08 plus top pictures 12 to 7 from Kingly
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg156077#msg156077

Update 43:  7th June 2008.  A video and maps of the Kingly Tram System               
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg155567#msg155567

Update 42: 5th June 2008.  The draw for DEVO 08 plus pictures of the four stadia being used in West End.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg155192#msg155192

Update 41:  4th June 2008.  18 new pictures of the Red Line of the Kingly Tram System.  Plus update on Devo 08.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg154797#msg154797

Update 40:  30th May 2008.  22 new pictures of the Green Line of the Kingly Tram System.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/Themes/default_jrj/images/post/xx.gif

Special Announcement on 28th May 2008 for Devo 08.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg152031#msg152031

Update 39:  25th May 2008.  15 new pictures of the Kingly Tram System - Orange Line, plus football stadium.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg150832#msg150832

Update 38:  24th May 2008.   22 new pictures of the Kingly Tram System - Brown Line                 
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg150126#msg150126

Double Zero Update:  19th May 2008, to celebrate Jmouse for posting the 500th comment in West End
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg148848#msg148848

Update 37: 18th May 2008, Transit map of Kingly Tram System plus a micro-vid                   
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg148591#msg148591

Update 36:  16th May 2008, 9 new pictures from Kingly                         
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg148031#msg148031

Update 35B:  11th May 2008, A video of the canal boat tour of Kingly                           
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg146616#msg146616

Update 35:  10th May 2008, 25 new pictures from the canals of Kingly and Amsterdam                 
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg146290#msg146290

Teaser :  8th May 2008, 3 new pictures
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg145769#msg145769

Update 34:  4th May 2008, A video of Kingly and Amsterdam
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg144673#msg144673

Update 33:  1st May 2008, 3 new pictures - overviews
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg143893#msg143893

Update 32:  27th April 2008, 15 new pictures from Kingly
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg142424#msg142424

Update 31:  19th April 2008, 20 new pictures from Kingly and Amsterdam, showing more tourist sights.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg139947#msg139947

Update 30:  30th March 2008, 10 new pictures from Kingly, showing some of the tourist sights                   
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg134547#msg134547

Update 29:  24th March 2008, 7 new pictures of the Double Zero Club and Kingly.                           
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg132766#msg132766

Update 28:  22nd March 2008, 14 new pictures from Kingly, showing some of the problems the city is having
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/Themes/default_jrj/images/post/xx.gif

Update 27:  16th March 2008, 18 new pictures from Kingly and Amsterdam               
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg129937#msg129937

Update 26:  9th March 2008, 5 new pictures of Project Kingly Amsterdam                           
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg128015#msg128015

Update 25:  29th February 2008, 6 new pictures from Shaftesbury, a small town of 21,900 sims
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg124842#msg124842

Update 24:  23rd February 2008, 17 new pictures from Wardour, including data views and residentials.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg122397#msg122397

Update 23:  17th February 2008, 16 new pictures from Wardour, focus on transport and commercials.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg120238#msg120238

Update 22:  16th February 2008, 4 new pictures of the revised tower blocks in Wardour
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg120017#msg120017

Update 21:  9th February 2008, 17 new pictures from Wardour, featuring the Industrial Areas and the Football pitches.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg117420#msg117420

Update 20:  3rd February 2008, 12 new pictures from the village of Norvaney.                   
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg115809#msg115809

Update 19:  26th January 2008, 13 new pictures from the re-built town of Wardour.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg112708#msg112708

Update 18:  20th January 2008, 4 new pictures from Oxford - plus news of a massive region loss!
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg110245#msg110245

Update 17:  13th January 2008,  15 new pictures from Oxford, the capital of West End.                                   
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg107870#msg107870

Update 16:  2nd January 2008,  13 new pictures from Great Portland.                                 
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg104380#msg104380

Update 15:  28th December 2007, 15 new pictures of custom lots, road junctions and Great Portland.                   
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg102473#msg102473

Update 14:  21st December 2007, 17 new pictures from Cavendish.  Farming & Ploppable Water                         
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg100789#msg100789

Update 13:  14th December 2007, 12 new pictures of Cavendish and Region View.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg98796#msg98796

Update 12: 5th December, 4 new pictures of Oxford
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg96303#msg96303

Update 11c The Final of the tournament here plus top 5 pics from Regent
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg95004#msg95004

Update 11b Day 2 of the football tournament - plus 6 more pictures from Regent Island
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg91782#msg91782

Update 11a Day 1 of the football tournament - plus 5 new pictures from Regent Island
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg91532#msg91532

Update 10 - added 16th November 2007 - Pictures of all the teams in the football tournament.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg91292#msg91292

Enter a tean in the West End International Trophy - Update 9, 6th November 2007
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg88449#msg88449

Update 8b Transit Map of Regent - added 4th November 2007
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg87817#msg87817

Update 8 - 3rd November 2007.  11 new pictures of the Little Amsterdam district of Regent.                       
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg87346#msg87346

Update 7 - 28th October 2007.  11 new pictures of Regent.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg85425#msg85425

Update 6 - 14th October 2007.  7 new pictures of Regent plus 4 pictures from Broadwick.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg80746#msg80746

Update 5 - 30th September 2007.  12 new pictures of Great Portland plus your chance to decide what happens next!
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg76540#msg76540

Update 4 - 22nd September 2007.  19 new pictures of Great Portland.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg73715#msg73715

Update 3 - 15th September 2007. 16 new pictures of Little Portland.
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg71468#msg71468

Update 2 - 9th September 2007.  13 new pictures of Little Portland. 
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg69199#msg69199

Update 1 - 4th September 2007. 16 new pictures of Wardour. http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg67616#msg67616


Follow the growth of this region, from blank canvas to (hopefully) mighty metropolis.

This is my first Mayor Diary.  I've been playing SC4 for a while now and have enjoyed looking at many of the diaries on this site.  You could say they inspired me to go ahead and start my own.  I will weclome all comments and suggestions as to how I can improve my city building techniques - so feel free to post your comments.  Positive, supportive, constructive, or just your own view on why something here is "not quite right".

My region is based on the 'Dornelles' map obtained from the STEX.  There's something about this map I like - maybe it's the mix of rivers, coastline, wide open plains together with some hills around the edges. 

This large region is on the Eastern coast of Sim Nation England and has only recently been made habitable following the eradication of the deadly Simfly which had colonised the region making it too dangerous for people to live in.  The large cities on the west coast of Sim Nation are full to bursting gained independence from the UK.  Many citizens are keen to move to this newly formed region (I bet you've wondered where all those Sims come from).  My region is called "West End".  This is because all of the transport routes from the cities in the west, end here.  West End.

Each of the towns and cities in the West End region are named after streets, roads and squares in the West End of London - so many of the names will be familiar to those of you who either live in London or have visited London.

The plan for this region is to develop two main cities on the east coast - Oxford to the north of the major river and Piccadilly to the south of the river.  It's likely that the two mayors of these cities will battle it out in an attempt to make their city the biggest and best in the region.  The diary will follow the struggle between these two major centres to see which becomes the capital of the region and also feature the development of the other towns and cities in the region.  A main line railway has been installed from the west, across the region to the two main cities.  As a result, other towns / suburbs will spring up along this main route with commuters travelling to the major centres.  I am sure that most of these will be low to medium density places although one or two are bound to try and develop into major centres in their own right.

Western edge of region:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg396.imageshack.us%2Fimg396%2F1629%2Frailnetwestwi7.jpg&hash=6d4e9fafa79c110eaf86793aa2ca06aec7f25326)


Central river part of region:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg396.imageshack.us%2Fimg396%2F2617%2Frailnetmidok7.jpg&hash=f204bc82758191413875f34afa4187bddbf80429)

Eastern edge of region:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg396.imageshack.us%2Fimg396%2F4042%2Frailneteastcx1.jpg&hash=478314b979dfd1b3d843245e1a6c5e44a8dacf8e)

Here are some region views to give you a feel for the geography.  You'll see the railway is already in place.  Highways will be next - again, a major west to east road will be the major artery with some branches to take traffic both north and south.  I'm not sure how to zoom in or out on region view - if any of you know how I'd love to hear.

Once these major transport pieces are in place I will focus in on the various towns and cities.

I will try to use custom content only as much as I can.  High wealth residential is a bit of a gap in my plugin folder at the moment, so the Maxis buildings will help out in this aspect.  I have plenty of SimGoobers buildings, so I'm sure you'll recognise them.  Gascooker's buildings are my favourites at the moment (probably because the are just so realistically British) so they will also feature heavily.  NAM is installed, so I'll use its features where possible.  I'm a bit weak on things like sunken highways and have only just started using canals.  Maybe some other features will appear as I get more adventurous and maybe pick up some suggestions from anyone who follows this diary.

I tend to develop in a set, standard approach - so I will be really pleased to hear any of your comments and suggestions as I am always open to new ideas and improving the way my cities develop and look.

Well, that's all for this initial post.  I hope to post an update very soon.  As a taster for what's to come, here is a screen shot of the first town to develop in the region - Wardour.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg375.imageshack.us%2Fimg375%2F4231%2Fwardourteasergd7.jpg&hash=32b2d7f4f03cce0c39998cdead3cba01066cd558)

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on September 01, 2007, 05:17:20 AM
I love the park! Looking forward to more.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on September 01, 2007, 05:54:12 AM
Wonderful start there and great looking pictures! Fantastic work! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pavle on September 01, 2007, 06:52:41 AM
Nice start and great pics ;) Can't wait to see more pictures of Wardour :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: szymcar on September 01, 2007, 05:06:24 PM
Nice shots, but IMO you should demolsih that bus stop and build the real park enter (now enters to the park are  through car parks, and it's not comfortable solution.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Sober on September 02, 2007, 09:27:54 AM
Hey, those are nice parks you've got going there? Also, where can I find those tennis courts (with the fences) in the lower right corner?

-Kelvin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on September 02, 2007, 11:11:41 AM
paroch Welcome to the wonderful world of MD'ing here at devotions and so far what im seeing is looking very good i love your soccer field and park it has a nice feel to it... - pat

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on September 02, 2007, 01:44:50 PM
Hey, thanks for the comments.  It's a bit scary posting up your first MD - you're just not sure if anyone is going to look and comment.  My first update is alomst ready to go - just need a good city wide shot of Wardour and then I'll post it - should be a couple of days.

In the meantime:-

nedalezz - thanks for being the first to post on West End.

bat - thanks for the encouragement.

Pavle - glad you like them - more of wardour coming very soon.

szymcar - I've taken your advice and got rid of the bus stop.  It wasn't meant to be an entrance but I can see what you mean.  I often have the entry to the park via the parking lot.  Maybe I'll try a different approach in future.  Also, I like your new MD Reden.  And thanks for the link to the Paris Firestation - I now have it.

Sober - glad you like the park.  I've left comments on your MD Eaton before, so you're always welcome here  ;).  As for the tennis courts with fences, they are PEG's Tennis Park.  You can find it either on STEX or on PEG's own site (SimPeg).  It may be available here on SC4D as well.

patfirefghtr - Thanks for the welcome and glad you like the football park.

Anyway, ahead of the full update here is the park with adjusted entance:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg115.imageshack.us%2Fimg115%2F1406%2Ffootballfieldvr8.jpg&hash=bc55ef46d10fafbaabe36e75f4498b62df09ba6c)

And you may also notice that many of the terraced houses above the park have upgraded to Gascooker's Watford Drive series.  (I forgot to make the terraces historical to keep the low wealth appearance!).
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on September 02, 2007, 03:25:08 PM
Hello, paroch! Fine start you have here! The parks and the houses look great, and I love your region. I can't wait to follow along to see how you develop it!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on September 02, 2007, 03:41:37 PM
Excellent start you have here &apls. Nice pics too and yes i know how frustrating it is when you forget to make buildings historical $%Grinno$%

I'll keep an eye out for this :thumbsup:

:satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on September 02, 2007, 08:12:11 PM

Nice reworking of the football park   Paroch :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on September 03, 2007, 03:17:50 AM
That's a nice little teaser to start things off with.  :)

A good start and looking forward to the next update.

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on September 03, 2007, 05:56:02 AM
Great new looking picture! :thumbsup: Looking forward to that update!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on September 03, 2007, 07:26:48 PM
I always enjoy watching a region develop from the ground up, and it looks like you have some interesting ground to cover. I'm fascinated by how other players set their priorities. For folks like you, it's obviously the rail system, others start with highways and some begin with a few streets and a tiny village. But that's the beauty of SC4, isn't it - to each his own!
Good luck with West End. It will be a pleasure to watch it grow.

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: rooker1 on September 04, 2007, 07:41:43 AM
Awesome start, love the map, it looks very interesting. 

Robin   ()stsfd()
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on September 04, 2007, 01:16:44 PM
Welcome to the first update of West End.

First of all, thanks for your comments so far - it's nice to know someone is looking!  Specific replies:

thundercrack83 - thanks for your comments and glad you like what you see so far (p.s. Thanks for doing a good job moderating this board)

TeaCat - hey, welcome to West End.  I've seen you comment on many MD's so I'm glad you've popped over.  I hope I can keep posting stuff to make you come back.

patfirefghtr - I'm pleased you like the re-worked park.

Tooheys - thanks for the comments.  I must confess to not catching up on your MD recently.  I'll pop over soon.

bat - thanks for dropping by.

jmouse - thanks Joan.  I travel to work by train every day, so I hope I make West End's rail system better than the one I use!  I try to build rail stations like they'd appear in real life, i.e. Spread out more than subway stations or El-Rail stations.  Not sure it always plays to the strength of SC4 gameplay, but hey, I like it.  It's true that the options are endless to starting a city or region.

rooker1 - glad you like the region map and thanks for the visit.

OK.......


The first town that has developed in the region is Wardour.  It's a bit up river from the coast and two main cities.  We'll be looking at two different families that have settled in Wardour to show us around.

As the first town in the region, it has a mix of Industrial, Agricultural and Commercial areas.  I felt I didn't have too much choice here as I wanted the region up and running and growing pretty quickly, so couldn't rely on other cities for jobs.  The farming area is to the north of the motorway that runs through Wardour.  Directly to the south of the motorway are two industrial areas, with the main residential areas being to the south of the industry zones.  Commercial lots have built up along the main roads in the area.

Here is a shot of early zoning.  I always think this is an interesting time, the first zones are put down and you wait to see what buildings will spring up first.  Any way, as things progress the first main residential area is the low wealth terraced houses (mix of gas cooker's UK homes, Goober's Sardina and Scuttlebut Rows and Tiny Terraces which I think are by RP/zero7).  These homes house the workers from the factories in the industrial zone near the motorway.  Wardour is a bit of a football town, so Merry Park has two football pitches (but no stadium yet).

1.01-Early zoning
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1.02-Terraced housing
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1.03-Merry Park
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Our first family we'll check up on are the Harrisons.  They have moved to Wardour for a more peaceful and slow pace of life.  They live in a small house in one of the farming villages to the north of the motorway.  They all regularly attend the church in the village and the young Harrisons attend the little school house.

1.04 Harrison's house (it's the small one in the centre of the picture just above the junction)
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1.05 Farming Village
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1.06 And here is the farm where they work (I love the windmill)
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They dream of owning their own farm one day, and with so much land in Wardour that has yet to be developed maybe their dream will come true.  I hope we'll catch up with the Harrisons later in the diary.

The farming area of Wardour is at the southern end of a large fertile plain, which is home to the most sucessful farming land in West End.  The farms to the north of the motorway take up quite a bit of land and are important to the city as a whole.  Here are some shots of the farming area of Wardour.

1.07 Farms
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1.08 Farms
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1.09
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Since these shots were taken I have installed some canals and streams to the north of the farms.  Maybe one for a future update.


Our next family to look at are the Fords.  They have a bit more cash than the Harrisons (and a bigger mortgage!).  They live in one of the detached properties in a new development in Wardour.  The developer has kept many of the original trees that surrounded the site to add a semi rural feel to the place.  Mr Ford works over at Progress Place on one of the main roads leading out of the residential areas.  His big weakness in life is fast food and luckily for him there is a whole row of fast food joints opposite his office (I didn't expect a whole row like that to develop but I like them).

1.10 Ford's House
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1.11 Eastern Commercial district where Mr Ford works.  These commercial buildings are by JMyers (I think).  They are 1x3 lots.  I really like these buildings - but - they grow far too regularly in my cities.  Any suggestions of other 1x3 CO$$ lots would be welcomed!
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1.12 Fast food joints opposite
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Mrs Harrison works at the local clinic and is always nagging him about his poor diet.

1.13 Clinic in small commercial area (note spanish language - West End is a multi-lingual region)
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Many of Wardour's residents work in the larger cities on the coast to the east, so they travel to work by train from Wardour station.

1.14 Wardour East station
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And to finish off, here are a couple of zoom-out shots.

1.15 Main "drag"
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1.16 City-wide shot
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City population is currently 38,000.

I hope you've enjoyed Wardour.  We will visit it some other time but the next update will feature another part of West End.  I need to decide whether to show you Little Portland (farms, town on a lake with a village along a canal and stream) or jump straight into Oxford (main city).  Please feel free to comment on what you've seen - good, bad or indifferent - and also let me know what you want to see next if you have a preference.  I'll aim to post next update on Sunday 9th September.

Bye for now!


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on September 04, 2007, 03:35:01 PM
paroch loved the update it was very good... keep up the hard work - pat
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on September 04, 2007, 05:00:04 PM
Oh yes, love the farms spread over a gently-rolling countryside and connected by curvy streets. The neighborhoods are nice as well, but I must ask if the row housing in pics 2 & 3 is representative of RL building styles in the UK. Other than spending a few hours in the Frankfort, Ger., airport last summer, I've never set foot in Europe. Never set foot on a train either, but it is fascinating to collect tidbits of info from players around the world.
And in case Mr. Ford has not already informed you, I believe there's a Burger King restaurant available somewhere. Looking forward to seeing more development. :thumbsup:

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: jmyers2043 on September 04, 2007, 06:08:20 PM
Ah – the small mid rise office buildings are indeed mine. Intended to provide some competition to the Maxis Cox Tower.  I've seen these buildings grow by ones and twos and I've also had them grow in my game the same as you've pictured. Can't honestly say that I know why the game decides to grow one building over another. What I usually do with weeds is to download more weeds (variety) but I do not recall if there are any other buildings out there for download that fall within the parameters. 

Two things  that I do are – (1) leave alone knowing they will upgrade eventually if you continue to develop your city or (2) I'll make one or two historical if I like the locations they've grown and perhaps plop some parking lots in between to break things up a bit.

Nice MD so far and a good region. I appreciate the feedback . Good Luck.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: rooker1 on September 05, 2007, 05:11:56 AM
Very nice update.  The farms look very nice.  The trees in between each lot and the windy roads make it look very good.  Great work so far.

Robin   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on September 06, 2007, 06:30:41 AM
Welcome to page 2!

Wonderful pictures of "WEST END"! Great work on it! Fantastic looking overview of that city! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Sober on September 07, 2007, 06:56:41 PM
Those farms are stunning! I had a try with farms on rolling hills but them props and me didn't get along, plus it's not practical when you're near a river - runoff and such - you don't want 15-eyed fish for dinner, now do ya?
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on September 08, 2007, 12:45:16 AM
First of all, let me just say I really do appreciate your visit to this MD and for those of you who leave comments THANK YOU.  If no-one left comments then I think I'd lose heart.

Replies:

pat - I know you visit loads of MDs, so thanks for keeping West End on your list and I'm glad you loved the update.  I've just found your MD now as well.

Joan - cheers for the big comment!  I like the farms too.  I can see some things I want to improve but that's for future development.  Row Housing in pics 2 & 3: First up, in England we call them 'terraced houses' - Row Housing isn't really a term we use - and yes they exist.  Being squashed in like in Wardour tends to be in the more industrial towns and cities, typically in the Midlands and the North of England, e.g. Leicester, Manchester, Liverpool etc. but terraced housing was common in both the late 1800's right up to the 1960's across the whole of England, in the more R$ areas of towns.  I grew up on a 'council estate' in Essex, England in just such a terraced house.  Maybe not so sqaushed in as the pics from Wardour.  Our cul-de-sac had three separate terraces of four houses each built around a small grass square.  I'll try and recreate it and post it on here soon.

It's hard for me to believe you've never set foot on a train.  I live 40 miles east of London and work in the West End of London.  If there was no train network, London would not be able to function!!  We had a tube (subway) strike recently and it caused chaos. And as for the burger king, it's already there on the right hand side of the picture - flame grilled, yum!

jmyers - Hey, I am really pleased you've dropped by.  I have a lot more of your BATs in my plug ins (in fact you have your own folder!!)  I'm pretty sure that most of those fast food joints are yours too.  JB Hoard investment crops up all over my commercial areas as does SCGE Credit Union.  So a BIG thank you for your hard work in making all that custom content.

rooker1 - thanks for the visit and comment. Those farms seem to be popular!

bat - thanks for the support.

sober - 15 eyed fish???  Don't say it too loud, the sushi bar in picture 1.12 would like to have those on the menu !!

I'm working on an update which I hope to post tomorrow (Sunday) but I keep getting dumped to desktop whenever I zoom in or out whilst playing / photographing a city.  It's difficult to pinpoint the problem but it makes doing anything VERY time consuming (especially when you keep forgetting to save!).

Anyway, as a teaser here are two shots of LITTLE PORTLAND.  This is a medium sized tile that is based around a large lake.  Farmlands to the north, industrial to the west, main town to the south and a village plus some industrial to the east of the lake.  First pic is a close up of the lake (haha) and the second is the village church.

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Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on September 08, 2007, 02:51:20 AM
Great two new pictures! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on September 08, 2007, 10:56:07 AM
OK, I see the Burger King now that I know it's there! The name is pretty obscure in the photo.
Thanks for explaining the housing in UK. Since my daughter married an African three years ago, I have become much more conscious of the difference in customs and cultures between the U.S. and other countries. Guess it's a bit late in life for me to wake up and discover there's a whole world out there, but I'm enjoying the experience just the same.
Love the teaser and look forward to more.

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on September 09, 2007, 12:39:51 AM
UPDATE 2 - 9 SEPTEMBER 2007

Bat - thanks for the comment. :)

Joan - I'm enjoying your visits to West End   :thumbsup:  I agree with you in that it's always interesting to learn about other people / places / cultures.  I've never been to Houston (only visited Florida in the US).  I am visiting Las Vegas in October but I guess you could say that Florida and Vegas aren't really representative of the US as a whole!
And I can see why you didn't realise it was a burger king.  At the moment I am using MS Paint to convert the city pictures to JPEGS.  I seem to then lose some quality when I upload them to Image Shack.  Maybe I need to do something different.


Nobody expressed a preference on which town/city to visit next, so here we are in LITTLE PORTLAND.  The town is so called because it is the neighbour of the larger Great Portland - original eh?  In real life London, Great Portland Street (plus surrounding streets, including Little Portland Street) used to be the heart of the "rag trade" in the West End of London.  Now, high rents have pushed many such businesses out to the edges of the city.

Little Portland is built up around a large lake.  It has some a small Commercial district in the downtown area and two Industrial areas, one to the west of the lake and one to the right of the lake.  Farmland occupies most of the land to the north of the lake.  See the two shots below for an overview of the town:

1.01  Little Portland (west)
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1.02  Little Portland (east)
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I had loads of problems getting these two shots.  I'm not sure why but when I zoom out on a region my PC just stops running SC4 and throws you back to the desktop  :'(.  As a result I'm having to go very slowly before zooming out and remembering to save after each change!  Maybe my plugin folder has got too big or I have some conflict in there, I don't know but it's difficult to know what's causing it.  If you've experienced something similar please let me know how you got round the problem.

OK back to Little Portland.....

I'm going to focus on the areas to the east of the lake today.  In picture 1.02 you'll notice a motorway.  Just to the right of this is a village.  The village has built up along the banks of a small canal / stream.  This is my very first use of canals and streams, so please forgive some of the mistakes (although feel free to point them out in case I've not seen them all).

The village is generally R$$ and R$$$ but of course there's always room for some R$ developments.

This is the top end of the village built around a small pond.  I didn't level the ground properly before laying the pond, hence the odd appearance :thumbsdown:.  But I have learned and future ponds won't have this.  I will improve this one but with the game problems I've been having I didn't really have time to correct this now.
The small church (SG I believe) sits between the stream and the pond.  This is the second church in the village and whilst not as picturesque as the main village church it still attracts a fair sized congregation. 

1.03 Village northern end. 
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And now we move down to the middle of the village.  This is where the highest house prices are in the village.  Some of the most desirable places in all of Little Portland are here, backing onto the narrow canal.  I really like the mix of houses in this shot, I think they go together well.
1.04
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And now we move down to the southern end of the village which is actually where the main centre is.  Here is the main church (Gascooker's excellent St Bartholomew's).  The small shopping area is popular with both residents and tourists alike with a mix of old fashioned grocery stores as well as a few antique shops.  The food court next to the church is very popular for cream teas during the summer months.

1.05 Village centre
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1.06 Village centre (reverse angle).  Spot the error in the laying of the canal!
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Just to give you an idea of the overall geography, here is a zoom out shot.  The village is to the right of the motorway.  To the left of the motorway is the farming area and in the bottom left corner is the edge of Lake Portland.  I enjoy creating the farming areas and picked up the idea of putting trees between the farms from other MDs.  I got nice comments about the farms in update 1, so couldn't resist including some here!

1.07 Village with farming area
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One thing I haven't shown you yet is any Industrial zones.  Here is Little Portland's Arcadia Industrial Park (AIP).  It is directly to the south of the village on the opposite side of the canal.  The AIP is mainly high-tech although the mayor of Little Portland is very old fashioned and insisted on building a small canal dock.  No-one can be sure how many high capacity fluxometres are shipped out by canal barge but the barges add a certain charm to the town:

1.08 Arcadia Industrial Park with dock
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Again you'll notice that I didn't level the ground before laying the canal which has resulted in a few dodgy bits.  But hey, that's how we learn eh....

1.09 Southern part of the AIP.  I like the way the Underhill Casket Company has sneaked in with the high-tech stuff.
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1.10 AIP straddles the motorway.
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I find Industrial areas the hardest to get close to RL, so I'd appreciate your comments on what you think of these and how they can be improved.  My plugin folder probably could do with some more Industrial stuff as well.


In the very south east of Little Portland is the Paragon Retail Park.  This is proving to be a popular place for the residents of Little Portland.  Its location on the banks of the Regent Canal has made it a popular place to come just to stroll and relax and enjoy a bite to eat whilst shopping.

1.11 Paragon Retail Park
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1.12 Paragon Retail Park
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That's out tour of the eastern side of Little Portland, I hope you enjoyed it.

As a teaser for the next update which will feature the main town plus some of the farming area here is a shot of the downtown area:
1.13 Little Portland town centre:
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And I thought I'd share another of my 'mistakes' with you.  Here is a block that was low wealth houses with an alleyway at the back.  I forgot to make the low wealth house historical, so here they have upgraded but of course the alleyway is still there.  Just doesn't look right!

1.14 Remember to "make historical".
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I hope you've enjoyed this - until next time.

paroch / Paul  $%Grinno$%


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on September 09, 2007, 02:14:10 AM
Fantastic new pictures of your city! Great work! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on September 09, 2007, 10:41:18 AM
Little Portland is a nice town with all the elements blending well together. I've not yet taken the time to learn how to use canals, but they are outside of my visual experience so I'm afraid they'd look phony no matter how I placed them. I kind of like the alleyway, though as it reminds me of the house I grew up in. Looking forward to more.  :thumbsup:
And you are right about Vegas and Florida, but usually there is no single city, state province or whatever which is representative of an entire country. That's the beauty of diversity!

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: rooker1 on September 10, 2007, 07:15:46 AM
Great work here.  I like the seasonal trees, but does that slow the gane down?  The canals look very nice as well.  I like the industrial area except for the high tech.  I have a little, tiny problem with blue buildings, I hate them, but hey that's just me.  The rest is great, I'll be back for more.

Robin   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on September 14, 2007, 01:40:39 PM
Hmmm, this update didn't seem to be so popular.  Must try harder......

bat - thanks for your continued support.

Joan - I'm glad you like Little Portland - the village part took me quite some time!  And as for canals, well this was my first attempt, so I'd say go for it - if you don't try you'll never know!   And I like the alleyways too, just a shame the housing improved!  Do you have an MD of your own going?  It'd be good to pay you a visit.

Robin - thanks for the visit.  I've not noticed that the seasonal trees slow the game down at all, certainly not in terms of game play.  And as for the industrials - I think this is my weakest part of my game. 

Update 3 is planned for sometime over the weekend and will be the other half of Little Portland.

Until then   $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on September 14, 2007, 04:19:53 PM
Don't fret too much over comments, paroch. Like updates, they seem to come in waves -- the tide goes out, then here comes a tsunami!  :D
Just focus on doing the best you can and the more experienced players will help you along. Besides, I think you're doing OK now, and I can't imagine anything that will improve your skills more and faster than committing to an MD.
At least that's what I keep telling myself as I work to prepare one I hope to post in the next few weeks. So keep up the good work, and look for me to jump in the deep end with you pretty soon!  :P

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on September 14, 2007, 06:21:26 PM
Huge update, paroch! Little Portland looks great! Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on September 15, 2007, 02:42:36 PM
Welcome to update 3.

Joan - thanks for your comment and ongoing support.  You're right, I'll keep concentrating on this and if it's good enough then the comments will follow!  And make sure you let me know once your diary is up and running.

thundercrack83 - thanks for the visit and comment.  I only get chance to do one update a week  :-\, so it tends to be a big one!



Last time we looked at the eastern side of Little Portland.  This time I'm going to show you the western part of the town.

Little Portland has now reached a population of 25,000.  It's very much a small town with a wide variety of people living there.  A large number of people commute to the larger town of Wardour (next door to the west) or to the region's main city Oxford.  A good rail service takes workers into these towns very quickly.  The motorway is also a fast option but is not used as much as the rail.

Much of the land area of Little Portland is given over to farming, and in the north west of Little Portland is a very small farming village.  Many farm workers live here to be close to work.  The village has a small church, school and clinic.  It has a couple of shops including Deviant Desires - not the sort of shop you'd expect in a small village, but hey there's not much else to do in the village:

3.01 Farming Village
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And here are some of the farms that the village serves - note the small exclusive housing development on the peninsular.  These houses are considered the best in all of Little Portland.

3.02 Farms
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The town has a few industrial areas but can hardly be considered an industrial powerhouse.  This industrial park has a few meat packing plants as well as some automotive spare part manufacturers.

3.03 Industrial Area
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The town is surrounded by many trees and the mayor was keen to keep the town as green as possible.  There are two main parks in town - Freeston Park is a more formal park with a playground for the kids.  Klean Park has a football pitch and some open space.

3.04 Freeston Park
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3.05 Klean Park
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Note: the apartment block "Sunset Terrace Apartments" (top right corner of park) was causing me a problem - The base texture disappeared which meant its base was just black.  At long last I worked out Lot Editor and changed the base texture so that it would appear properly.  I know it's simple but it was my first foray into Lot Editor!

The mayor also built a sports complex which is home to the towns football team Portland Rangers.  It is only a small stadium, holding 4,000 fans.  You'll see the complex also has tennis, baseball and skateboarding.  The food court is a popular place to hang out.

3.06 Sports Complex
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The biggest feature of Little Portland is of course Lake Portland.  This is my first attempt at creating a waterfront feature.  It's a popular place to walk and be seen and the residential zone nearby is highly sought after.  In hindsight I think I should have made this a commercial zone.

3.07 Waterfront
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To the south of the town is the Regents Canal.  Water is always a nice feature to live by, so perhaps not surprisingly you can find some nice family homes near the canal.  The water taxi is very popular.

3.08 Regents Canal
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But not everything is going smoothly in the town.  Over at the Goober Gen Clinic there's a protest going on.
Apparently the mayor doesn't pay the doctors enough money so they are on strike.  So often I am concentrating so much on building new stuff I don't see the messages warning me about poor funding levels.  Am I the only one who forgets this?  Wouldn't "auto-fund" be a nice option to have!

3.09 Protest
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And the W2W Polish building in this picture is very good but it only works well in a W2W environment.  Must remember to weed it out from there!

Here is an overview of the town centre.  It has just got its first high rise commercial tower - the Shark Building.  A very nice building indeed.  I just hope the developer knows what they are doing.  That's a big building for a town of 25,000.

3.10 Town Centre overview
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Now here's a developer who understands the small town property market.  West End's biggest developer is Myers Corp and here they bought a large plot and built a selection of small towers.  Just right for medium sized companies and serviced offices.  This development is called Myers Concourse.

3.11 Myers Concourse
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And our last shot of Little Portland is the eastern edge of the centre.  Here is where the fun takes place.  Century Cinema (I love the custom query sound), Dennys Diner, Flower Market and Courtyard Hotel. 

3.12 Town Centre east
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For those who like some traffic data:

Apart from a few side roads traffic is flowing freely around town.  The buses are reasonably well used around town as well.

3.13 Traffic data
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3.14 Bus data
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Now I also noticed an eagle flying around in the sky above the town.  I'd never noticed him before.  Is this standard Maxis in-game or it id linked to a certain mod???? Any ideas?

3.15 Eddie the Eagle
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And to finish off, here is a region overview at the moment.  Region population is up to 239,000.  Main population centres are Oxford, Wardour, Little Portland and Great Portland.  My first attempt at sticking pics together, so hopefully looks OK.

3.16 West End Region
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Thanks for stopping by West End.  I look forward to seeing you again soon.





Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Sober on September 15, 2007, 03:51:28 PM
Awesome update! Looks like you're already getting ahead by naming regions and playing a little disconnected.

If you grabbed the underwater fauna plops, it'd be cool to see some green plants near lakes/rivers by the farms on slopes -> 'cause this usually happens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eutrophication) (if you want to add a bit of realism :))
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on September 15, 2007, 04:25:44 PM
Another great update, paroch! The region and the traffic shots are my favorite. I'll be looking forward to seeing more, my friend!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on September 15, 2007, 07:53:36 PM
The farms look nice, and I always like to see a few factories mixed in with the growable industries.
The sports complex looks good and that's a great-looking overview of the city.
Also, I appreciate your including the traffic data. Traffic control is not one of my strong points, so I'm always interested in how other players handle the challenge.

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on September 16, 2007, 06:19:46 AM
Wow, paroch, great stuff! I love the few final shots, with the autumn scenery and the small town flavour...It really gives a sense of a quiet suburban environment. The trees around the lake also work very well.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on September 16, 2007, 07:12:57 AM
Fantastic update 3, paroch! Great pictures also great picture of the region! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on September 17, 2007, 02:48:58 AM
Good lord, this looks totally amazing! A compliment for your eye for detail...this city has a very 'real' feel to it...as it should. I love London...and I love this, keep up the good work please and I'll be sure to check on your progress!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: rooker1 on September 17, 2007, 04:29:02 AM
Another super update.  Nice regional map, thta's going to take some time to fill.

Robin   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on September 18, 2007, 12:54:30 PM
REPLIES:

Thanks to all who have visited the most recent West End update and BIG thanks to those of you who have left comments.  I used a program called clip2pic to take the pictures for update 3 which resulted in much clearer pictures with no loss of quality - I think this made a difference.  I must thank The Tea Cat for pointing me in the right direction.

OK, specific replies:

Sober - thanks for dropping by and your comment.   I downloaded some underwater rocks but couldn't find any underwater greenery - if you have some good stuff please let me know what it's called so I can track it down  :thumbsup:

thundercrack - glad you like the region and traffic shots.  I'll try to drop these in on a regular basis from now on.

Joan - welcome back, I appreciate your visits.  That industrial area is 100% growable - I tend not to plop too many buildings in my cities unless I'm after a particular look.  The surprise of seeing what develops is half the fun in my opinion.  The sports complex is simple but I hope effective.  As for traffic control - I'm not sure how much I controlled of this, but I have deliberately left the bottlenecks at a few junctions as this is more true to reality in my opinion.  For me the bus data was more valuable, I like to know whether the sims are using them or not.

nedalezz - welcome back.  You were the first to comment on West End, so you're always welcome!  It's funny most of the pictures were taken whilst the trees were on "autumn".  And a quiet suburban town is what I was aiming for.  I live in a quiet suburban town myself, so the majority of my towns / cities go this way!

bat - thanks for your comments again.  Glad you liked the region shot.

capo - welcome to SC4D in general and West End in particular.  Thanks for the positive comment.  I work in London, so I'm sure certain elements of London will crop up from time to time ;)

Robin - thanks for that.  Yes, the region is HUGE, the shot I included is only part of it!  If I manage to fill the whole region up I will be old(er) and grey(er)  $%Grinno$%

Here's a taste of the next update (which is still in progress) GREAT PORTLAND.  Located directly to the south of Little Portland this city currently has a population of 35,000 and will be quite an important transport hub in the region.

3.17 Great Portland city overview
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The region population is now 250,000 and the first airport is under construction in Great Portland.  Plans are for a single runway with one terminal but space for a second terminal if required.  Here is a shot of early construction:

3.18 Construction of runway and taxiways
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3.19 Airport location in relation to city
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You'll notice the airport site is just below the motorway for easy access.
Construction on the runway, taxiway and terminal buildings is now complete.  Just got to work out how the transport links will fit in best.  Forward planning is not my strong point!

3.20 Construction complete
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This is my first attempt at an airport that is not a Maxis plop and drop, so your comments on how to improve it are welcomed.  I've used a mix of RMIP2, ACE and Joergs bits.  RMIP looks great but it took me ages to work out the bits to use!  I'll include closer shots of the airport in the next update.

I'll aim to give you update 4 over this weekend (RL permitting!)  $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on September 18, 2007, 01:06:25 PM
Looking good, my friend! I like your airport, and I know what you mean about the RMIP pieces--there's so many of them, it's hard to figure out where they all go! Anyway, I'll be looking forward to this weekend to see you next update! Until then...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Madeira aka Constantina on September 18, 2007, 01:22:28 PM
very promising by the looks of it.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on September 18, 2007, 08:11:26 PM
Nice update, paroch. You're taking your time, working through the details and otherwise doing exactly what needs to be done. And I think your first try at building an airport is working out just fine.

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on September 19, 2007, 06:51:16 AM
Fantastic little airport! Great work! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on September 21, 2007, 05:10:16 AM
Nice couple of updates. Anyone who can get farms to look good on a slope has my attention :thumbsup:.

Airports take a bit of practice, and some research to get it right. But you've started out small, so the layouts fine although the runway needs to be longer. While the largest Maxis airport probably covers the same area, the scale is different. I know it's going to take up some space, but I would recommend that you increase the length of the runway by at least 50%, preferrably double it. Take a look at the large jet at the gateway and think about how much runway it wiill need to get off the ground. Better still, imagine your on the plane /wrrd%&

Anyway, only a suggestion. You are doing nice work here, Great Portland is looking good and will be back for more.

Cheers

Dave





Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on September 21, 2007, 08:40:52 AM
You started a very nice MD. I am looking forward to your next updates to find out how the airport will develope :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on September 22, 2007, 03:22:19 AM
Hi all. Thanks for the ongoing support and comments.  Before the update here are some replies:

thundercrack - thanks for your visit again.  Yes RMIP is great but confusing for me.  I guess it's experience and having a good memory.  I'll have more detail on my next airport I'm sure.

Madeira - welcome to West End.  I hope I can deliver on the promise!

Joan - good to see you again.  You're right about taking my time - I sometimes wonder if SC4 takes up too much of my time ;)

bat - thanks.  And yes, little was my plan.

Dave - thanks for the constructive comment.  You'll see I have extended the runway.  Maybe not quite by 50% but I've also taken out the 747.  As for the research...I'm a bit too lazy for that.  I'll probably just copy one of your airports!!!!

sebes - welcome and thanks.  I love the real Amsterdam and also your Amsterdam MD.  I must re-visit it soon.


UPDATE 4


Welcome to the latest instalment from West End.  Today we're visiting Great Portland.  This is a town/city of 50,000 and it has a few firsts for the region - the first airport and first GLR.  I showed you some "under construction" pictures before of the airport, well now things have developed.

Following Toohey's advice I have extended the runway.  I have also taken away the 747.  This is after all more of a regional airport, so it can handle jets but not the largest aircraft.

4.01 Overview of Great Portland Regional Airport
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You'll notice that some commercial development has started on the north side of the airport.  There are two hotels, The Sheraton and Airport Conference Hotel.  There is a large area to the south of the airport that is undeveloped.  The city council are still deciding whether to zone for a mixed commercial and industrial park (industrial demand is very high) or whether to leave undeveloped to allow room for terminal 2 should it be needed.  The regional government have plans for an international airport further east near the coastal cities, so this may mean terminal 2 will never be needed.

A GLR runs around the airport as well, so again, if T2 is built then this will be easily incorporated into the GLR system.

OK, now let's have a closer look at the airport:

4.02 Terminal 1 - west
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Some walk on gates for small business jets and regional prop jets.

4.03 Terminal 1 - east and Main Entrance
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Some jet way gates plus the bus-to-gate pick up point.  Bottom left of the picture is one of the multi story car parks that serves the airport.  You can also see the main entrance to the airport next to the GLR station.

4.04 Terminal Transport Hub
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Good transport links right next to the door - GLR and bus already in use.  The subway station has been built but no subway system is running yet.  This will be needed as the GLR is already proving popular.  Construction is underway on the airport branch of McDonalds.

I'm going to show you the GLR route into the city centre.  You can see the main GLR station above, now let's follow the line east into town.

4.05 Commercial development
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The next GLR stop is on Aviation Drive, the main avenue out of the airport.  Here commercial development is already springing up (in fact it upgraded after I took the pics).  The space between the GLR and the taxiway is earmarked for a cargo facility.

4.06 Runway End
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Here the GLR has a junction.  East over the avenue and into the city centre, or south to linkup with proposed Terminal 2 site plus western town suburbs.
GLR station is on a small plaza.  Residential development already underway - but it must be noisy living there!

4.07 Small Plaza
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The next GLR stop is seeing a small commercial plaza develop.  Again, it has developed further since the pics. 

4.08 Industrial Zone
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Here the GLR crosses the road and enters the industrial area.  This is quite a dense industrial area and is relatively close to the city centre.  A debate is underway as to whether this should be redeveloped.  A larger industrial area is being planned to the east of the motorway which would enable a seaport to be built.

4.09 Almost there!
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The GLR winds through the last of the factories and into the wooded residential area.  The Hong Kong Garden Estates are the most common high rises in West End.  I really like these buildings and they fit the character of West End - but they do crop up a hell of a lot - maybe time to weed some out - what do you think?

4.10 Great Portland Central
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And here the GLR comes to an end - connecting with the mainline railway station "Great Portland Central".  This station is heavily used (13,500) and is already over capacity, so the city council are deciding how to improve this important transport hub.  Many travellers from other cities change from train to GLR here to get to the airport.  It is likely that a direct subway line will link the airport to here.

Now for some other shots of Great Portland.  I think I've said before I don't do much plopping, instead I enjoy seeing what will grow.  This little neighbourhood is my favourite in Great Portland:

4.11 Amstel Grove
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Named after my favourite Dutch beer.  I think this little corner of Great Portland is very tranquil and has a relaxed feeling.

4.12 Commercial Waterfront
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The main commercial district of Great Portland - mainly offices.  Strongest influences here are Jmyers, SimGoober and RP/Zero7.  The south bank of the river is planning a commercial district to rival this but will likely to have more retail than offices.

4.13 Entertainment
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This certainly wasn't planned!  A Best Western Hotel, Century Cinema plus Hooters, Plaza Azteca and Pizza Uno.  Any visitors to Great Portland usually end up spending at least one evening on this "mini strip".

4.14 Keep it green
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This corner of Great Portland is a wildlife reserve.  Many species of waterfowl live here, so it has been declared a protected zone.  The few houses that are here are very popular.

4.15 Bay Living
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Living near water has always looked nice - and these folks thinks so too.  Thanks to Sober's comment I tracked down some underwater props - I think they look OK, but with a bit more playing I'm sure I can improve on this.

4.16 Peninsular
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This peninsular is home to a lot of sims in a little space.  Not the smartest part of town but the views are awesome!  Small water taxi station is an alternative way on and off the peninsular.

4.17 Dominci Park
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The largest park in all of West End (so far!).  Residents and visitors alike come to Dominci Park to relax and stroll along the numerous paths.  The city council bill it "the jewel in our crown" - that's politicians for you!

4.18 Freight Terminal
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Here is the industrial freight terminal.  I've experienced problems with whichever freight station/terminal I use.  The track doesn't appear to run through it (even though it does) and usage is always zero.  Please suggest a good freight station / terminal to me - I'd love to be able to do something better than this.

4.19 South Bank
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The south bank of Great Portland is only just getting going.  I think this will be the site of my next update.  I have not built many of the rewards yet (I know I have loads waiting), so the south bank could be home to lots of interesting places.

Please feel free to comment on where I can improve - I do take your suggestions seriously.

Thanks and until next time..... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on September 22, 2007, 08:30:42 AM
Fantastic new pictures there, paroch! Wonderful new pictures of the airport! Also great areas next to the GLR-Way! Also the others are looking wonderful! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Madeira aka Constantina on September 22, 2007, 08:57:51 AM
i like it  :)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on September 22, 2007, 05:01:56 PM
Very interesting and well-done update, paroch. Your transport systems appear to be very efficient, and it would be nice to see some traffic-usage data for the different elements. Also, what's the population now?

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on September 27, 2007, 11:52:56 AM
Bat - thanks for the comment - The airport and GLR took me some time so I'm happy you like them!

Madeira - I like your comment :)

Joan - Thanks for that - and your wish is my command.  Traffic info below.  I'll let you decide whether they are efficient or not!!

4.20 Congestion data:
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As you can see the major routes are green but a few bottlenecks on some downtown roads and some of the streets.  I'll have to have a closer look at these - but I do think that some congestion is good as it adds to the realism.

4.21 Road data:
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4.22 GLR data:
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Most of the route is being well used.  I have the Dockalnds Light Railway mod installed and am seeing plenty of blue and red trams zipping around the airport and city.

4.23 Bus data:
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Buses tend to be the workhorses of my local tranportation but here in Great Portland they are not being used much in the city - BUT plenty of people are taking buses for longer journeys out of town eastwards.

4.24 Train data:
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The trains were so busy I had to upgrade the line to a double track through most of the city.  Plenty of use on most of the line.

4.25 Ferry data:
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Not much happening here - YET!

4.26 Zoning Data:
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Thought this may be of interest.  You can see the Industrial is concentrated with the Resi areas interspersed with commercial districts.  Some commercial zones up by the airport have high levels of customers.

Great Portland population is now 65,000 and the regional population is 260,000.  I'm going to develop the south bank of Great Portland next and then move to another city.  I'll come back to Great Portland later when I have decided whether to build Terminal 2 or a new industrial area to the south of the airport.

Hope you find this of interest.  Hope to give you update 5 over the weekend......... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on September 27, 2007, 12:33:10 PM
Impressive data, paroch. Thanks for including it. Great Portland is about the size of the city I live near now, and the transport system has similarities. I call it a tic-tac-toe layout with two five-lane thoroughfares north to south, and two more east to west (that's two lanes each direction and a left-turn lane down the middle - don't know if they have that kind of setup in other parts of the world or not.).
Anyway, it looks like you have traffic under control which is no easy task in SC4! :thumbsup:

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on September 30, 2007, 01:35:08 PM
Hi all and welcome to update 5 of the West End MD.

Fisrt of all, a big thank you to Joan for your unflinching support of this MD.  I'm glad you liked the traffic data.  And as for keeping the traffic under control I'm not sure how much of that is luck rather than judgement!

Anyways, update 5 is a look at some other parts of Great Portland that I like and hope you do too.....

5.01 South Bank School
Development has moved across to the south side of the River Dinnium.  The main residential area surrounds the South Bank school which has good sports facilities.  I like the way the European W2W buildings have developed.  It only took a little bulldozing to achieve this, so I am pleased with the outcome.  In the bottom left of the picture is the pitch where the neighbourhood team play every Sunday.
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5.02 South Bank Commercial Plaza
Directly on the river is the new Solar Power Plant.  People who live south of the river are "keen to be green" so insisted on solar power.  The Portland tennis centre is also on the river side and is home to the annual Portland Open which attracts players from across all of West End.  I like the way one of Goober's adult stores is sandwiched between the tennis stadium and the JJB sports store.
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5.03 FC Portland
Here is the NRG Stadium, home to FC Portland, the most successful team in Great Portland.  The stadium has a capacity of 45,000.  West End isn't developed enough yet to have a fully fledged league, but once it does I am sure that FC Portland will be one of the main teams.  At the bottom of the picture you'll see the new subway station.  This line has been built to link the south side of the city with the airport.
The food courts are popular all week round, whether a nice spot for lunch or a dinner in a buzzy atmosphere followed by a walk along the riverside.  Of course on match day it gets really busy with fans wanting beer, hot dogs and burgers.  The stadium is known for its beef and onion pies.
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5.04 The Port
Many say that this is where Portland got its name - the port.  This is my first attempt at anything other than a maxis plop and drop port.  The main container port and ro-ro ferry port is in place.  There are a couple of rail freight yards that service the port but I need to build up the industry and warehousing around the port.  I'm lacking small filler lots, so any suggestions are welcome.
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5.05 Convention Centre
OK, we're back north of the river now.  I know this is a standard Maxis building but I really like it.  The convention centre has been built up near the airport and is currently hosting "Reptile Locator 07", the world's largest exhibition dedicated to people looking for lost reptiles.  My son's two corn snakes escaped yesterday and we've only found one so far, so one is loose in the house somewhere! &cry2
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5.06 Runway's End
Here is the development that has built up at the end of the runway of the nearby airport.  I like the way it's all so uniform.  A little bit of bulldozing, making historic and luck has given this result.  Have you noticed how when you come in to land at an airport you see so many swimming pools in gardens.  It's odd because when you're on ground level you don't see them.  Anyway, can you see the plane in the picture - and they're looking down at those two swimming pools thinking "I never knew those pools were there"!  Take a bow RP (zero7), Gascooker and MattB for your brilliant BATs.
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5.07 Business Park
Here is a small business park that has only recently been developed.  The park was designed with small businesses in mind.  They were asking for small buildings that could be used either for office space or small storage and distribution centres.  The six square glass and brick office buildings are VERY realistic - buildings just like these can be seen on most business parks in England that have been built in the last 10 years or so.  The  blue, white and yellow buildings are supposed to be tyre shops/garages but I think that they work well as small business distribution centres.  All in all I am pleased with this small development (quick, make it historic before it upgrades!)
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5.08 Missouri Park
This park has been developed between the large industrial zone, the sea wall and the rail bridge.  Across the rail bridge is the Port of Great Portland.  The park isn't used that much as it is quite a drive from the nearest residential area, but for those that make the journey it is a nice quiet corner of the city.  The park is named after the missing snake and it is rumoured that this park is home to all the escaped reptiles in Great Portland! ;)
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5.09 Riverside Living
One of the new riverside developments.  This is towards the western edge of Great Portland and will be the last high rise zone to get planning permission on the riverside.  The city council have decided that no new builds taller than 4 stories will be allowed within 100 metres of the river from now on.  I really like the red building called "Moscow Red", only recently released on STEX.  I must of course thank Jeronij for his great sea walls.  I use them a lot, I guess I should look for some alternatives just to add some variety.
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5.10 Peninsular Redeveloped
In update  4 I showed you the peninsular (pic 4.16).  Since then a sea wall has been built (which resulted in many of the buildings being lost).  As a result the whole peninsular was redeveloped.  I am pleased with the end result.  The new subway line has a station on the peninsular which means that it is very easy for the residents to access the South Bank and the airport.  This has helped make it a popular place to live in Great Portland.
You can also see the small business park in this shot.  You'll see you have to go through the business park to get the Portland Bill Lighthouse.
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5.11 Peninsular zoom in
This shot of the peninsular is zoomed in and spun through 180 degrees.  You can see the subway station and the gardens.  I've just spotted two undeveloped squares!
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5.12 Region Shot
Here is an up to date picture of the region.  Your opinions are welcomed on the following questions:
a) what town/city should be developed next.
b) when it comes to airport development, would you go for expanding Great Portland, or building a larger airport?  I am thinking of either Carnaby (directly south from Great Portland) or East castle (which is in the top north east of the region).
c) expand the port at Great Portland, or build a larger one on the Piccadilly / Carnaby coast?
d) Cavendish is likely to be a large farming community - do you agree with this plan?
I will listen to your opinions and if there is a clear majority I will develop as you suggest.
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I hope you've enjoyed this update.  The city now has a population of 97,000 and the region is up to 307,000.  I'm away for about 10 days from Tuesday so the replies, next update and next development decision will not be until after I'm back. 

Until next time...... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on September 30, 2007, 05:14:16 PM
Very nice update, paroch. Great Portland is moving in a positive direction and you're showing it off in the best possible light. The photo with the plane in it is especially good -- I never get lucky enough to catch a scene like that!  ::)
In response to your questions, how about taking a whack at one of the islands -- Regent perhaps?
Can't give an opinion on the airport since never achieved a higher plane than a plop-and-drop. (And please excuse the silly pun!)
As for the seaport, ask yourself why you need one. The game designers gave us a lot of informational tools which I'm trying to get into the habit of using. If you're looking for efficiency, check out the usage stats. If you're going for looks, just trust your obviously good eye for detail.
And Cavendish looks like an ideal spot for a farming community. :thumbsup:

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Shadow Assassin on September 30, 2007, 07:05:26 PM
Looks good, but I suggest moving your airport out of Greater Portland, it's too close to development. Maybe build another airport just south of it?
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on October 04, 2007, 03:01:04 AM
Hi Paroch, great couple of updates.

You certainly have some good looking lots in your collection, and you put them all together quite well.  :thumbsup:

The convention centre and stadiums look great  :)

You certainly are having some trouble with some of your lots, the freight stations I use myself. I'll have a look and see if I can work out what is missing (although I didn't help much with the ferry terminals $%Grinno$% ) . Ive also got some nice looking warehouses that are great for fillers and will get you a link in the next day or so.

I hope you don't mind me making a suggestion or two along the way. Feel free to ignore me anytime  ;)

I know it always good to try and work with the natural topography of the region, but sometimes as in RL you just need to flatten things out or terraform them to a workable arrangement. Take your picture of the port for instance, IMHO it would look better if the rail line thru the port was flat. Changes in rail elevation, if they can't be avoided, should be gradual, now this isn't really possible in SC4 without the use of a decent slope mod. Something to consider, but be warned, a slope mod will impact on the way you plan a city (something to experiment with first).

Anyway, I've raved on for too long. I hope I have given you something to think about, if not, just tell me to shutup ;D

Cheers

Dave

PS: Here are the warehouse links: 1 (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=12860) and 2 (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=12859). You might also want to look for the "BLS small industrials by Barbw". They are great for filling one or two tiles in industrial areas.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on October 05, 2007, 01:31:45 AM
A great new update, paroch! Wonderful work on that region! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on October 11, 2007, 07:36:42 PM
Well, I'm back from my break, and back on SC4D.  Struggling with the time difference (just jumped forward 8 hours) hence why I'm here at 3 a.m  %wrd

It is always interesting to visit somewhere different and see some real cities / towns / landscapes and think how you can incorporate them into SC4.  We flew to Las Vegas via Calgary in Canada and coming into land at Calgary I was struck by just how flat the land is there. It stretches for miles and is all perfectly flat.  And the farms were all perfect square patchwork fields.  The small roads seemed to form a perfect grid as well.  So now, when I make square farms I won't feel so guilty. 

From up in the sky I also appreciated just how much land schools take up with their various buildings and sports fields.  I will have to try to allow more space for them in future.

Vegas of course is a weird city, like no other place.  From a city concept angle I can see how the city is growing rapidly but is really struggling with traffic.  They have installed a monorail system that is quick, modern and clean BUT the stations are too far back from the main road (the strip), so consequently it is not used as much as it could/should be.  I guess it's not as easy in real life to flatten a few buildings just to improve the transportation network.  I guess if the city planners had realised just how HUGE Vegas was going to become they would have allowed room for a decent elevated rail/monorail where it really needs to be. 

The city is laid out in a series of grids and the low density residential (in SC terms anyway) stretches out for miles.  I guess this version of suburbia is what I try to achieve but it is so hard to resist zoning some medium  and high density zones  ;)

The airport at Vegas is so close to the main hotel district.  The only other place I know of with an airport so close to the city is Pisa in Italy but that is a much smaller place.  So I guess that means I don't feel soooo bad about the location of the airport in my region.

Anyways, thanks for the comments whilst I was away - here are some replies:

Joan - thanks for your support with West End and thanks for the reputation point - much appreciated  :).  I appreciate your comments and will act accordingly (Regent has already started some small development but I will now concentrate more on this).  And Cavendish will be a tranquil farming community (I hope).  Btw, I see you've started your own MD, I'll be over soon.

Shadow Assassin - thanks for that.  I kind of realised that myself but sometimes you need someone else to tell you!  I think I'll leave the airport as it is (for now) and develop the region's large international airport in Carnaby.  Once this is built I can then decide whether to leave the current airport as a specialist cargo or business airport or redevelop it into something else.

Tooheys/Dave - Good to see you here again and thanks for the help with the ferry terminals and warehouse suggestions.  And please feel free to make any suggestions or comments - I'm certainly not a "perfect player" in any respect.  As I said to Shadow Assassin above, sometimes you kind of know something is not quite right and someone else saying so certainly helps - I know that rail line needs to be level and your comment just re-affirms that.  I'll have to read up on slop mods before deciding whether to take the plunge.
Thanks for those links as well.

bat - cheers for the comment.

Well I hope to give you another update soon and looking at my stats, hopefully it'll be in Ones to Watch pretty soon.

Take care...... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on October 11, 2007, 08:23:35 PM
Welcome back, paroch. Hope you had a pleasant trip.
Just remember, though, that you can't judge an entire country by one city or state. (And you're right, Vegas is a bit weird!) Anyway, The State of Texas alone has many faces including flat lands, semi-desert, the canyon-studded Hill Country, coastal areas and a huge swath of piney woods in the east we call The Big Thicket.
So, just go for the look you want and be willing to relax the rules of reality a bit here and there if need be. Please yourself and you'll please your audience. ;)
And I'll be looking forward to your visit.

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on October 13, 2007, 11:21:24 AM
It's been too long since I dropped by, I missed out on 2 updates! I still really like your eye for detail, many of the pics look so natural and realistic. Amstel Grove looks like a very nice place to live, but please...drink Grolsch :D

Im very much in love with the stadium of FC Portland picture with the foodcourts but my favourite is strange enough that picture of terminal 1 (east and main entrance). That's a great way of using that NAM piece I so often forget about!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on October 13, 2007, 11:28:42 AM
Welcome to the Ones to Watch thread, my friend! You're moving on up! Congratulations!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on October 14, 2007, 03:09:06 AM
yes, Welcome to the Ones to Watch! Looking forward to a new update...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on October 14, 2007, 03:29:17 AM
I too missed a couple of updates. The airport came out nice, and also the city of Portland has some great areas: I do like the way how the high rise residentals are planned along the water front, and the FC Portland Stadium is realy good!

And thanks for posting that region shot and the traffic data. Very interesting. I'd like to see that more often in MD's  &apls

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Sober on October 14, 2007, 08:22:18 AM
Someone's moved up!  &apls

Welcome to Ones to Watch, where boys are made into men... I think...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on October 14, 2007, 10:10:16 AM
Congratulations on your promotion! :thumbsup:

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on October 14, 2007, 12:24:53 PM
Hey, promotion to "Ones to Watch".  I'm really pleased that West End has made it here.  :P

I'm hoping to post update 6 in a few hours - just having a few problems with getting the right pictures!  In the meantime, some replies and a few pics of something specific.

Joan:  Thanks, had a great trip to Vegas.  Also got to see the Grand Canyon - wow!!!  Driving through Arizona we passed many small towns that really were how I imagined "Smalltownsville" Arizona to look like!  But don't worry, I'm not naive enough to think that the rest of the USA is like Vegas.  Never been to Texas, so hoping that your MD will give me some impressions of your home state.  Thanks also for your advice re building styles.

Capo:  Good to see you here again.  Thanks for your nice comments and I will make sure I have a Grolsch sometime soon!  Indeed, I have heard that FC Portland have just struck a sponsorship deal and will have Grolsch on their shirts next season!  As for the pedestrian bridge, yeah, I like that bridge, I use them every now and then.

Thundercrack:  Thanks for that and for doing a great job modding this board.

Bat: Cheers.  Hopefully the update will be real soon.

Sebes:  Welcome back.  Glad you liked Great Portland and the traffic data.  The city I am working on at the moment has one of the strangest traffic usage charts I've ever seen, so I'll include it in the update.

Sober:  Good to see you again.  I must pop over to Eaton soon and have a "manly" drink with you!

Joan (again):  Why thank you, I have a feeling Wildcat Junction will be here too, real soon.

I'm currently working on Regent within the West End region and hope to post pics later this evening.  (I followed your suggestion Joan).  In the meantime, here are some pics of a recreation of the road I grew up on.  Way back on update 1 Joan asked about the terraced houses and whether they really appeared like that in RL.  Well, here's the answer.  This development is in the region of Broadwick and is based on a road in South Ockendon, Essex, England.

5.13 Overview of the road:
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In RL it is not one long terrace.  They are generally in terraces of 4, 6 or 8 houses with a small gap in between.  However, the gaps were too big in SC4, so this looked more realistic.
I haven't developed around this yet, although in RL it is open land on the other side of the main road.  There are flats on the other side of the railway.



5.14 North end of the road:
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The two terraces in the bottom left have the small gap between them that makes them VERY close to RL.  On the left hand side was the part of the road we called "the sausage" because of its shape and yes, there is room to park in the middle.
I lived in the second of the two "banjos" (look at the shape).  Whilst they didn't actually have a circle they were that kind of shape.  A small green should be between the road and the houses but then you get the "no road connection" zot.  The green areas between the houses are actually taken up with gardens.


5.15 Mid part of the road:
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As you can see, I had a long walk to school!  This was a junior (elementary) school and is no longer there.  They knocked it down to build more houses.  But this is how I still remember it.  The schools was not quite that big but in terms of layout and design it is very similar.


5.16 South part of the road:
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Again, the terrace at the top of the picture is more realistic, just couldn't get enough of them to grow.  Just spotted where I should have put the bus stops on the main road and the bridge road - must go back and do that.


I hope you found that of some interest whilst I work on the next proper update.

Til then.......... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on October 14, 2007, 01:49:32 PM
Update 6 - 14th October 2007

Hi all, welcome back to West End.  I'm conscious that I have not developed a constant "theme" as such with my MD.  Sometimes it's just my comments and opinions, other times its a more factual approach and occasionally I have tried to wind in a small story line.  Now that the MD has moved up a level I feel I should be more consistent, so I'm going to try to write each new update from the view point of one of the officials within either the Regional Government, City Council or another "official" body.  As always, feedback is appreciated - if you like it great, if not tell me so I can adjust accordingly. :thumbsup:

Today I will introduce you to Bill Bailey, Leader of Regent City Council:

Welcome to Regent, folks.  I'm proud to be in charge of this city.  I say city, but we're only 20,000 residents at the moment - but I have a vision to grow this place into something special.  I know that Regent may not have the land mass to be the largest city in West End but we have something that the other cities don't have - and that is beautiful beaches.  My plan is to grow this city as the resort and playground of both West End region and Sim Nation as a whole.  Sure it's ambitious, but hey, so am I!

I want to give you a quick tour of Regent now and hope that you'll be interested enough to come back next time when things have developed a little further.  Maybe after this little "teaser" you'll even be willing to sign up for one of the new apartments on the Princes Cove development.

6.01  Regent Beach:
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That beach is the finest in all of West End.  It has soft fine sand and the water is perfect for swimming and snorkelling.  On the left hand side of the beach is the exclusive Rose Grange development.  The houses are surrounded by parkland, beaches and trees.  They don't come cheap but they are the nicest places in the whole city.  In the top right of the picture is the Princes Cove development (constructed by Bailey & Co  ;)).  These apartment blocks are selling out fast, so hurry up if you want your chance to have a piece of the action.


6.02  The Regent Strip:
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And this is why things are happening here in Regent.  We recently did a "fact finding mission" to Las Vegas.  I know some of the voters said that such a small city as ours should not spend money to send me and my friends, er I mean fellow councillors, to Vegas.  But it gave us some great ideas.  We recently passed the gambling ordinance and now we will reap the rewards as we expect thousands of visitors each year.  We hired some big name architects to recreate some classics, The Mirage and the Stratosphere.  I tell you, from the top of that tower you can see for miles and miles.  There are plenty of restaurants there as well - I'll show you more next time.
You can see the Princes Cove development is between the Strip and the beach.  I tell you, buy now before the prices get too high!


6.03  The Heddon Golf & Country Club:
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I told you this city is the playground of West End.  Well look at this fabulous establishment.  Old Burt Heddon has been whacking golf balls around for as long as I can remember but when he hit lucky on that slot machine on that fact finding tour in Vegas he went and sunk all his money (plus a fair slice from the WestBank) into his golf course.  It's set in beautiful wooded countryside and talk is that he will be running a tournament sometime soon open to all of Sim Nation.


6.04  Regent Boardwalk Theme Park
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Well, we had the beaches, the casinos, the restaurants and the golf course, so we discussed the matter on the council and decided we needed something BIG for the family visitors.  The Boardwalk is our answer.  We sold the seafront land to the Dooswords Corporation for 2million Simoleons.  That gave us some cash to invest in city infrstucture and gave those hot shots at Dooswords a prime spot to develop the theme park.  I have to admit that attendances have not been as high as expected but as the city grows that place will be rocking.


6.05  Anthony Haines High School
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And this is where most of the money from the Dooswords deal went.  We get some cash from the Regional Goverment for schools, but they'd have our kids learning in leaking portakabins on the budget they give us.  We want our young sims to grow up with their own great business ideas, and with this facility we're giving them every chance.  The school has a great football team (The Wildcats) and we have high hopes that they will win the West End Schools Trophy this year.


6.06  Rose Grange
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Here's a corner of Rose Grange.  That church is where Reverend Spires does his thing every Sunday.  He's pretty unorthodox in his approach to religion - the amount of times I've heard him prey for red to come in on Roulette is beyond me!  Rose Grange has been pretty much developed but I'm hoping that the kind people of this city will let me build my, er, I mean the city's Mayoral Mansion in there pretty soon.


6.07  Traffic Volumes
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Traffic is not a problem in Regent (yet).  That top purple line is ferry usage.  We currently have two ferry terminals in the city and many of our residents use them to travel to jobs in Oxford and Great Portland.  It's a much greener, if slower way of travelling.  We recently upgraded the rail network and that usage has increased and taken some people off the ferries.  I'll tell you more about our transport system next time.


Well, that's all for today from me.  Be sure to come back soon as development here in Regent has only just begun.  We're still looking for more leisure activities to cram into this place, so if you have any ideas, get your people to call my people and maybe we can cut a deal.


Til next time....... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%





Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on October 14, 2007, 04:32:30 PM
That is what I call an A-1 update, paroch! :thumbsup:
The photos and explanation of the "old neighborhood" were very interesting.
Putting the theme park and casino near the beach was a good idea, and the country club looks great. The home of the Wildcats (Hooter is honored) and neighborhood look just fine, but it looks like you plugged that traffic-usage graph into the nearest 220 outlet! :P OK, so I'm jealous -- mine doesn't look nearly that good!
But you've corrupted my mind forever with the "banjos!" How can I ever look at a roundabout again without thinking of paroch's banjos? ::)

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on October 15, 2007, 07:39:53 AM
Fantastic looking two new updates there! Great work! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: rooker1 on October 16, 2007, 04:27:03 AM
Super update, I really find your Traffic volume interesting.  I can surely tell you that I have never seen a ferry used that much before, great job.

Robin   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on October 20, 2007, 06:43:58 AM
Interesting chart! I guess you have put the trans-river rail connections at the right spot if you get soo many people from the ferry on the trains!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on October 21, 2007, 01:00:50 AM
Hi Paroch, a nice couple of updates. Like the re-creation of where you grew up.

West End is looking fine, the development around the beaches and the school and surrounds is well done  :thumbsup:

I don't want to harp on it, but you do need to consider the flow of the land when plopping lots. You're theme park is a good example. The boardwalk really needs to be all at the same level, as it is those poor sims are encountered with a 10 ft drop between sections (ouch  $%Grinno$%).

Nevertheless, I enjoyed the updates. Wouldn't mind a game on that golf course either.

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on October 21, 2007, 11:55:07 AM
Wow, I love the resort town feel of this update! The golf course, the boardwalk, the casinos--everything looks great! I like the way you set up the high school complex, too. Can't wait to see more, my friend!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on October 24, 2007, 01:37:38 PM
Hi all.  Thanks for your replies and comments.  And for those just viewing without posting, thanks for dropping by as well.  Hopefully you'll see something soon that will make you feel like commenting.

Specific replies:

Joan:  I feel that you're West End's most loyal follower!  Glad you liked the update and the re-creation of my old neighbourhood.  And yeah, we really did live in a banjo!  As for the Wildcats, there's no league as such (yet??) but Bill Bailey tells me that they are playing really well.

Bat:  Thanks for dropping by and your comment.  Your huge park is still in my mind, I must try and create something similar!

Robin:  Yeah, the ferry usage surprised me too.  It has dropped off as the city has grown, so I'm glad I got the picture when I did.  I'll carry on supplying traffic info from time to time in the MD.

Sebes:  I must admit that I'm not sure if people are using both the train and ferry - must investigate.

Dave:  Welcome back.  I thought the re-creation would be a cool thing to do.  Clearly of massive interest to me, so I like the fact that others enjoyed it too.  Glad you liked the update and I take your point 100% about the boardwalks.  My issue is that I'm playing a pre-formed map, so I have to deal with terrain that is not flat.  I am trying to get into the habit of levelling land before starting certain projects, e.g. Canals.  I have rebuilt parts of the theme park, removed the boardwalk and put in sea walls.  It looks better (teaser below).

Thundercrack:  Hey, I'm pleased you like what you see.  Positive feedback like that helps keep me going - thank you.  And I will be showing more of my resort town.


Development has been slow (a mix of RL pressure and a couple of big game crashes).  I'll post an update either later this evening or in the next couple of days.  The pics are ready, just need to provide some words.

As a teaser here are a couple of pics:

6.08 Theme Park re-worked
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6.09 Regent - city overview
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Bill Bailey will be back for the next update to provide the narrative. $%Grinno$%


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tkirch on October 24, 2007, 03:27:49 PM
Great job.  I love the theme park has everything.  SOmething for the kids and smoething for the adults.  See you at the blackjack tables!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on October 24, 2007, 09:57:00 PM
Hey, paroch, the tourist destination is really taking shape and looking good! :thumbsup:
I used to enjoy visiting a carnival in Galveston, Texas, when I was a kid, and your theme park reminds me of those happy days. There were no casinos there, but there were still a lot of things for parents to spend money on!
Anyway, the beaches, the seawall, the amusement park -- all of them bring  back pleasant memories.
Thank you! :)

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on October 27, 2007, 09:08:49 AM
Great looking theme park and overview of that city! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on October 28, 2007, 04:16:47 AM
Update 7 - 28th October 2007

Tkirch - glad you like the theme park.  And yes, I'll see you at the tables!

Joan - hey, it's a pleasure that this brings back good memories for you.

Bat - thanks for your words, always good to see you here.



Welcome back to Regent, the resort city of West End.  My name is Bill Bailey.  I'm the leader of Regent City Council.  The council have recently decided that as well as the leader of the council, I should also be the mayor in recognition of the work I've done in developing Regent. 

Things have moved on in Regent since you were here last.  City population has just gone over 43,000.  And we still have plenty of space to grow into.

7.01  Regent City Overview
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This map should give you an idea of how the city is developing.  I've labelled the main districts, so you'll know what I refer to.  Our city surveyors office has just started using something called GIMP to produce these maps, so forgive the red fuzzy writing - we'll be experimenting with different colours.


I wanted to tell you a bit about each area within Regent:

Regent is built on the strength of The Strip.  If it wasn't for The Strip Regent wouldn't be the city it is.  This area provides plenty of jobs for residents of both Regent and the nearby areas of Oxford and Great Portland.  We'll focus on it in a minute.

The Central Business District has some medium sized buildings but there is scope for more development there, particularly to the south and east.

Regent City has the highest density of our residential zones.  Our city has plenty of R$$ residents and the Regent City district has more than other districts.

Rose Grange is a low density, medium/high wealth district, probably the most desirable part of the city.

Little Amsterdam is also a popular area.  West End has a very diverse population, with sims from all over the world.  Little Amsterdam is home to many North Europeans who like the canalside and lakeside homes.  It has a nice mix of low and medium density homes, together with some nice parkland.  Tibbs Town (just south of Little Amsterdam) is a medium density zone with easy access to the river and planned riverside park.

Viddiams is the worst part of town - but even this is far from being a bad place to live.  It just doesn't really have much character.

Haines Park is popular because it is so close to The Strip.  And North Regent has some nice European style buildings.

A large development on the Regent South Bank is planned.  It is likely that homes on the South Bank will be higher density and may not be so expensive.  We'll have to see how the development pans out but I am getting complaints that there is not enough affordable housing in Regent.


7.02  Residents Graph
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Here you can see that the majority of our residents are R$$ (top line).  I'd like the R$$$ to grow some more - maybe some more parkland and better educational facilities will help.

OK, I really want to show you what's been happening on The Strip since last time.

7.03  East Strip and North Beach
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At the eastern end of the Strip is the new North Beach.  Not as big as the Prince Regent Beach, but just as nice.  We've allowed some Residential development, but I have to admit only one of the blocks is what I was hoping for.  I'll be keeping my eye on this and will encourage a higher quality of development.
The theme park (Dooswords) had an issue with the old boardwalk.  Some tourists fell and injured themselves, so they hired a firm of consultants from Australia (Toohey Inc Pty) and they developed a new sea wall - nice and smooth.  Now visitors to the park can stroll along and enjoy the views of the ferries sailing past.

Also at the east end of the Strip is the go-kart track and Hollywood Park.  It's a small park with a recreation of the Hollywood sign, plus a replica of Big Ben and the White House.  It's cheesy, but popular!


7.04  The Rio
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The newest hotel on the Strip is the Rio.  It's a hotel / casino / theatre complex.  Everyone says that the cocktails in the Rio are the best on the Strip.

7.05  The Mirage
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This is the largest hotel by far on the Strip.  The rooms are also the highest quality.  My old buddy Jimmy McDouglas (you'll meet him in the future) rents the Kings Suite and it costs 2,500 simoleons per night.

Also in this picture is the Century Multiplex, the Guggenheim museum and the Whitehouse.  The restaurant zone is to the south of the Mirage.  We allowed some commercial office development to the north of the strip and a whole row of cheap small offices sprung up.  I'm encouraging some developers to do something a bit more imaginative!


7.06  Sheraton and Best Western
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Some of the big hotel brands wanted a slice of the action.  The Sheraton is a fabulous hotel (one of Sim Goobers best in my opinion).  There is a great casino on the ground floor, it's not the biggest but is has a great feel about the place.  It has a very large poker room and holds regular tournaments that attract players from all across West End.

7.07 Restaurant Zone A
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Captain Jack's Seafood Restaurant serves the best sea bass that you'll ever taste.  Being so close to the sea means that Captain Jack always has the freshest fish.  The gutted crab is also popular.
Chillis and Waffle House are also nearby.

7.08 Restauanr Zone B
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More restaurants including Plaza Azteca.  There is also a great mini golf course.  This is where my grand kids love to go more than anywhere on the strip.  Why, my grandson Tiger holds the course record!

7.09 Haines Park
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Haines Park was developed at the western edge of the strip.  When Regent was first developed this was the site of the power plant and the city dump.  Of dourse, as the strip grew we needed to relocate these.  So, Haines Park was built, as we wanted to have a green buffer between the strip and the main housing districts.  Also there is always scope to build more hotels here if required.  Unfortunately we couldn't get rid of all of the land fill.  So, we still have a small dump there, but it is getting smaller and hopefully we'll be able to close it down for good soon.

7.10 Princes Cove
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Here is the development that my Building Company has created..  The six blocks have a high standard of fit-out.  Marble bathrooms, concierge in each building plus great views of the sea (can you see how close to the beach they are).  We still have some available - what a great place to live.  Do I sound desperate?  Well, the next loan repayment on the development is due and the bank are making loud noises, so please, just buy one of the apartments!

7.11 Strip Overview
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Here it is in all it's glory.  Getting this developed has been my life's work.

I'll be back soon to show you some other parts of Regent.

'Til then...... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on October 28, 2007, 11:39:12 AM
Paroch, that's a really nice update you have there. I can see why The Strip is getting to be a tourist destination.
Also, I appreciate the labeled overview. We know our own region by heart, but it can be difficult for the audience to remember all the details and locations. I always save those photos and put them up on the other monitor while I'm looking at a new update.
I like the way you've combined different zoom levels, too, in this update.
Regent City is really shaping up as a city with many different and interesting areas, and that's just as it should be! :thumbsup:

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on October 28, 2007, 11:40:54 AM
Welcome to page 5!

That's a very good new update! Wonderful work! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on October 28, 2007, 11:41:50 AM
Another fine update here!

I like the overall picture with the sections of the city labeled, it gives me a sense of direction! The Strip looks fantastic, and I'm eager to see the whole city when it's fully developed. Keep up the good work, my friend!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on October 28, 2007, 09:59:27 PM
Great update, Paroch! The Strip looks a fantastic place, Im sure a night out on The Strip would be extremely fun. I like how you've separated your city into little mini-areas, each with its own story. Which brings me to my favorite part of the update; the little tidbits about your city. I feel it really brings it to life when done properly, and you certainly have done that.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on October 29, 2007, 10:10:24 PM
You have a good mix of lots there Paroch and you have brought them together nicely.

Thanks for the overview, it's good to see how things all fit together.

Great work with the park and the landfill is a good little touch.  :thumbsup:

Cheers

Dave

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on October 31, 2007, 02:46:58 PM
Update 7a - 31st October 2007

This update is not a particularly big one, hence update 7a and not number 8!

Thanks for your views and comments and in particular:

Joan (jmouse) - thanks for that.  Glad you liked the labelled map.  And yes you're absolutely right, I feel like I know my region really well, so I thought the overview would give you all a better feel for the area.

Bat - wow,page 5.  Didn't think I'd get this far, so thanks fo the welcome!

thundercrack - thanks for the ongoing support and glad you like the labelled map - I'll try and do those more often.  It takes me a while to get used to new pieces of software!

Nedalezz - welcome back, I think you were the first to comment on West End, so you're always welcome!  Thanks for your compliments, that's nice to hear.  And yes a night on the strip would certainly be fun.  Maybe I'll organise an excursion!!

Dave (tooheys) - cheers for that Dave.  And the landfill was an accident!


OK, mini update - over to the mayor, Bill Bailey


Hi all.  Last time I showed you the strip.  Well today I'm gonna give you a quick tour of the Heddon Country Club.  Burt Heddon has spent plenty of time and money on the golf course he has built.  I would prefer him to show you around, but he's involved in a big game of poker down at the Mirage at the moment!

7.12  Club House
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Here is the entrance to the Golf Club.  The club house has hosted some of Regent's swankiest weddings.  My own daughter held her wedding here and I can tell you it cost me a pretty packet.  Still, Heddon knows how to put on a party and all of the guests had a whale of a time.

I'm planning on holding my next fund raiser on the lawns here very soon - you can secure your ticket for just one thousand simoleons!

7.13  First Holes
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Now this is where I love to spend Sunday mornings.  The sun on your back, the wind in your hair and the dream of a perfect round in your mind.  Shame the perfect round only stays in my mind and rarely actually happens!
Those houses that back onto the course are pretty special too.

7.14  Middle Holes
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Now this is one of the quietest spots in the whole of Regent.  No cars, no houses, no nothing to disturb you.

7.15 Back Nine
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The last few holes.  Where great rounds are made or broken.  In the West End open last year this was where Happy Gilmore pulled off the win of his career against Shooter McGavin.  Man, the crowd went wild.  Gilmore's been a hero here ever since!

7.16  Course Overview
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And here is the whole course.  Old Burt Heddon is proud of this place - I hope you've enjoyed this little tour as well.

There's been a fair bit of development elsewhere in Regent, so I'm hoping to give you a bigger update over the weekend.

Til next time...... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on October 31, 2007, 03:30:15 PM
Scenic update, paroch. The parking lot by the clubhouse is a nice touch, and one I often forget to add.
That looks like a really challenging course, but based on what I see here, Happy Gilmore just got lucky! :D
Anyway, I can see why Old Burt Heddon is proud of it.
You continue to do a fine job, and I'm looking forward to "#8!"

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 01, 2007, 02:58:56 AM
Great work on that Golf course! Wonderful pictures! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: dedgren on November 01, 2007, 08:04:16 AM
Congratulations, Paroch-

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Never mind the gutted crab...


The Staff
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 01, 2007, 10:01:02 AM
Congratulations on the promotion. Just keep doing what you're doing and you'll be fine! ;)

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on November 01, 2007, 10:25:15 AM
Congratulations paroch, it's a very well deserved award! &apls

You are working on a very interesting terrain, and your region is full of nice places. Last pictures of the golf course are excellent :thumbsup:

I am curious what will happen here in the near future!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: rooker1 on November 01, 2007, 10:44:32 AM
Congrats on the move to SIOTM. In your last updat ethe golf course looks pretty good my friend.  I can't wait to see what you have for us this month.

Robin   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 01, 2007, 11:38:59 AM
Hey, congratulations on making Special Interest status for November, my friend! It's going to be a great month!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on November 02, 2007, 12:46:23 AM
Paroch, congratulations on the promo. :thumbsup:

Like the update as well, especially the clubhouse and the adjoining park/recreation area.  :)

Think I'll get the waders out, with so much water on that golf course, I could make a fortune selling SH golf balls I can find in the lakes  ;D

Cheers

Dave

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 02, 2007, 02:53:02 AM
Congrats for this award, paroch! &apls

Looking forward to the updates of this month! ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on November 02, 2007, 10:20:48 AM
Congrats on the award, I'd say it's well deserved!

I can't stop looking at that golf course, the way you planned it out...must have taken quite some time preparing it before actually start building it. btw those curved purple-ish red brick paths near the club house are pure genius! Old Burt Heddon has every right to be proud!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on November 02, 2007, 03:41:46 PM
Great update again, and congratulatiosn with your award. :thumbsup:

There is one thing that bothers me though in the picture (I hope you don't mind me mentioning): the abrupt end of the asphalt paths on the golf course. It would be much nicer if the path was continueing between the holes.  But the terrain as a whole makes up for that.... the trees and water are very good  :satisfied:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 02, 2007, 04:11:11 PM
Hi all, and wow, what a surprise.  I certainly didn't think about "Of Special Interest This Month".  So thanks to the modds for the award - it will inspire me to try and do something special this month.  I have a plan or two up my sleeve, so watch this space.

I have virtually a whole day free tomorrow, so I will devote some serious time and give you an update or two!

Some replies in the meantime:

Joan/Jmouse:  I'm pleased you like the course.  I don't play myself (well very very rarely), so I find any any course challenging!  As for the parking near the club house - I confess this is a custom made lot (linkie: http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=3228).  Quite a few people commented on this, and I don't recall seeing it in a MD before so thought I'd share the link.  This pack also makes up the bulk of the course itself.
And congrats also on your promotion to the Monthly Special Interest.  I'm glad we're here together!! :P

Bat:  Thanks as always.  Watch this space for more.  I must pop over to Capporth to see if you've done more to that HUGE park.

Dedgren:  Hey, thanks.  This made my day when I logged on this evening.  ::) Hope I can deliver some special interest.

Ennedi:  Thanks for the kind words.  Watch this space!!

Rooker/Robin:  Thankyou.  I wasn't sure if the golf course update was a bit weak, so I'm glad you and others liked it.

thundercrack:  Thanks for your ongoing support in West End.

Dave/tooheys:  hehehe waders indeed.  See the linkie above for the golf course and club house pack.  The club house area actually replaces the maxis country club reward.  So when I first built the golf course I had a very small club house and had to wait for the in-game reward and then had to re-jig things.

Capo:  Welcome back and also congrats on your award. The course did take some planning (and some re-working).  I have to admit that I changed it so many times I cannot be sure how many holes it has!  And as for the paths near the club house - I wish I could claim the credit for them but it's part of the Golf Pack by sim_idiot over on the stex (linkie above).

Sebes:  You and capo are my two Dutch visitors, hopefully you appreciate the Dutch buildings and influence.  Part of Regent is called Little Amsterdam.  I'll make sure I feature it this month.  And as for your comments re the paths on the golf course - seriously thank you.  I really appreciate constructuve comments like that.  You are right, the are somewhat abrupt.  I don't know if I have any better paths in my plugins.  I think maybe a dirt track may look better but I don't have one.  Or as you suggest, carry the path on, all the way around the course.  Hmmmmm, that may take quite some re-work.  I'll have a play tomorrow and see what I come up with.




So thanks to all for viewing and commenting on West End.

As a small teaser (particularly for capo and sebes) here is an overivew of the Little Amsterdam district of Regent:

7.17 Little Amsterdam
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'til next time $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on November 02, 2007, 04:19:25 PM
Never too many canals in a dutch city :  you got the concept right paroch!

Thanks for this teaser, I am looking forward to see more of Little Amsterdam  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 02, 2007, 06:25:29 PM
Since I can't afford to travel the RL world, I'm looking forward to seeing some of its wonders interpreted here in WEST END. I've always thought the Netherlands would be a fascinating place to visit, so I'll be watching out for the next update. :)

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 02, 2007, 06:27:32 PM
paroch Congrats on OSITM and loved the last few updates very great and well deseverd promotions - pat
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tkirch on November 02, 2007, 06:43:16 PM
Another great update.  I look forward to see what you are going to do with Regent Island, that looks like a great place to build.  The GC looks great I especially like the clubhouse and plaza, GREAT JOB!! 

And congratulations on the move up to Special Interest of the Month!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 03, 2007, 08:44:33 AM
Update 8 - 3rd November 2007

OK, today I have some time to build, take pictures, write updates and plan future updates......  So here goes:

sebes:  I can't promise that Little Amsterdam will be authentically Dutch, but I'll give it my twist on a Dutch theme.  I hope you enjoy.

Joan:  I guess one of the advantages of living in Europe is that we're all so close together.  London to Amsterdam is a 45/50 minute flight.  Amsterdam is a great city, and whilst I'm not trying to (or able to) recreate the great city itself, I hope it gives you an essence of the place.

Pat:  Good to see you again, thanks for dropping by and your kind words.

Tkirch:  Yes, that island is the reason I started work on Regent - but I seem to have this need to develop all other available land before I start on it.  I'm thinking it's going to be a very exclusive place to live.  The mayor's house has not been built yet, so maybe he'll go on here as well.  My plug ins are a bit light on R$$$ low/medium density, so I'll have to download some mansions I think!  And thanks for posting the 100th comment in West End ;D

I'll hand you over to Bill Bailey, Mayor of Regent:


Little Amsterdam is the part of Regent where many North Europeans have settled.  The dreams of a new life, in a new environment drew them to West End.  As you know, Regent has many attractions that has made it a popular place to live.  The land where Little Amsterdam now sits was very marshy up until 30 years ago.  The land was drained for farming, but as the city grew, this was valuable real estate, so the farms gave way to what we see today.

8.01  Little Amsterdam overview (old)
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This is what Little Amsterdam looked like up until a few years ago.  The city council wanted to improve the look of the area, so the roads were re-worked, so that they now run alongside the canals so that the houses generally front the canals, instead of backing onto the canals.

8.02  Little Amsterdam overview (new)
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So here the roads are re-worked and many of the older English style terraced houses have been replaced to give more of a Dutch feel.  Now, whilst I can control zoning I can't always control development styles, so it's not 100% Dutch.  But it is 100% European and Little Amsterdam has a different feel about it compared to the rest of the city.  I should never have granted planning permission for those high rises near the station.b I'm not convinced that they  sit there particularly well - but hey, I guess that's progress (plus the bribe, er I mean fundraising contribution, helped pay for the last election).

At the top of the picture is Little Amsterdam Station.  This used to be called Viddiams Station (as that is the district to the north of the railway).  However, the city council felt that more residents of Little Amsterdam used the station - plus it's a much nicer district, so we changed the name to project a more positive image of Regent.

8.03  Lake Capo
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8.04 Lake Capo
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The lake connects to each of the small canal arms that link with the main North/South canal.  The lake was named after a very famous Dutch historian, who charted the rise of the Dutch nation.  There is a wing dedicated to him in the SimNation museum (more in a future update).  The steamboat restaurant on Lake Capo is one of the most popular places to meet for lunch or dinner in the city.  Of course, we have the Strip, but the pace of life here is just that bit slower and more relaxed.

8.05 Sebes Park
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8.06  Sebes Park
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Between the bank of the lake and the railway is Sebes Park.  This park is named after a Dutch designer.  It's a nice place to relax and walk the dog.  It sprawls over a few roads and behind buildings.  From the eastern side of the park you can see the city museum complex.

8.07  Capograacht
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This is the most southerly of the small canals.  A mix of traditional and more modern apartments.

8.08  Lindengraacht
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This is the middle of the "islands".  Note the mix between the traditional Dutch building and the UK style family homes - Europeans living together in harmony!!

8.09 Lindengraacht
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The Tourre Matisse is one of my favourite building in Little Amsterdam - and what a view they have.

8.10  Grolschenstraat (south)
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8.11  Grolschenstraat (north)
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This is the main road that connects each of the islands.  There are a few bars on this road (hence the name).


I hope you enjoyed the tour of Little Amsterdam.


My next "mini updates" will feature a transit map of the city (I hope).

'til next time.... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 03, 2007, 09:26:38 AM
Little Amsterdam is looking very good! Great work with the canals! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 03, 2007, 11:41:55 AM
paroch I loved this update wow!!! You did a fantastic job here and the canals flow so nicely... Cant wait to see your transport map.... - pat
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 03, 2007, 06:05:12 PM
This is a very interesting update, paroch.
I have not updated (online) my own concept of Amsterdam in quite a while, but you have inspired me to do so. I must say you've done a good job on the canals, and I suspect it was no easy job.
I went back and forth many times between 8.01 and 8.02 looking at the differences. For the reason stated above, I cannot comment on the realism of either one, but I like your choice of buildings throughout the area. Also, the tree-lined streets work well with the sharp edges of the canals while the parks take the edge off.

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on November 04, 2007, 08:39:37 AM
Wow - I got a park named after me... Wow. Thanks. Words fail. :satisfied:
(Fledder: don't you dare making nasty comments on this)

Unfortunately I cannot see the "old" picture of the quarter, but the new one looks very good! You gave it a nice Dutch twist. I can imagine why so many Europeans settled there. Considering your spelling of Graacht, I think that either many people from Utrecht settled in Regent or you had a few too many Grolsch beers    :D
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 04, 2007, 09:12:40 AM
Stunning work on Little Amsterdam, my friend! Your canals look wonderful, and I love all the parklands! Keep up the great work!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 04, 2007, 01:58:50 PM
Hi all. 

I'm glad that Little Amsterdam has been popular.  Funnily enough I didn't find developing and re-developing it that difficult or too time consuming.  Make the land flat and away you go.  The things that take me ages and drive me a bit insane are making seawalls that line up, or trying to fit runway pieces together :'(.  When it comes to just zoning and roads, that's when I'm happiest!!!

bat - thanks again for your kind words.

pat - cheers for that.  Transit map below - I'll let you decide if it's any good.

Joan - glad you liked it.  The main difference between the old and new version is that on the old version each "island" had one road running down the middle with the houses facing the road.  This meant that they backed onto the canal.  In the new version the road runs around the outside of the island, so that the houses actually face the canal.  In Amsterdam itself this is how the houses are built.  And I'd love to see your own Amsterdam.  Go on, post it up sometime!  p.s. hope you don't mide me doing the transit map.

Sebes - I'm glad I got a Dutch comment on Amsterdam.  I felt that I should honour both you and Capo with names in my own Dutch district.  And I'm guessing it should be Gracht???  I just remember from Amsterdam Herrengracht, Prinzengracht, Kaisergracht etc.  Plus I re-linked 8.01 picture.

thundercrack - thanks for your visit and comment.

I'll hand you over to Tim Burrows, Director of the Regent Transit Authority:


8.12  Regent Transit Map(1)
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Here you can see an overview of the city with the main bus and rail routes imposed on top of the map.
I think it gives you an idea of how the residents get about the city. 

The yellow route is particularly popular with the toursits as it runs the length of the Strip, connects with the city centre, passes the main museum park, touches the southern part of Little Amsterdam and terminates at Riverside Park which is also a nice tourist spot.

The green route takes workers up to the industrial area in the Nort West of the city.  It also serves the west bank and links to the city centre.  It's very busy on match days as it passes the Royals Stadium.

The blue route connects the South bank with the two main ferry terminals and the Industrial and Business parks in the North West.

The brown route connects the Strip with many of the residential areas.  It also runs through Little Amsterdam.

The black lines show where the railways run.  The railways are really aimed at journeys beyond the boundaries of Regent.

8.13  Regent Transit Map (2)


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Now this is the map that appears on the bus stops and is given out by the Regent Transit Authority.
It lists each of the stops on the four main routes.  You can see where you need to connect to reach your destination.
I admit that it's not quite as clear as the London Underground map, but I have to admit that this is my first attempt at something like this.  Your feedback (good or bad) is much appreciated.


Well I hope you enjoyed this mini update.  Seeing as West End is in the Special Interest section this month I figured I should try to give you plenty of updates and hopefully a few things that are a little different, if not special!

I will give you a few more updates on Regent before we move onto another city. 

I also have planned the West End International Football Trophy.  This will be a tournament open to football (soccer) teams from all over SC4Nation.  I'll be seeking your entries in the next few days and giving you more details - so if you'd like to take part......stay tuned!

'til next time $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%









Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: NASCAR_Guy on November 04, 2007, 02:12:18 PM
Lovely &hlp
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on November 04, 2007, 02:12:41 PM
I msut admit that I'm in love...

in love with Little Amsterdam! I've already offered a bid on three apartments in this part of town, one is of course at the very pictoresque Capogracht, the second one at the place near the footballfield at Lake Capo and the third one is a corner apartment at Grolschenstraat. I hear the beer is quite tasty there (better then Amstel :D )

Amazing update, it reminds me very much of the original Amsterdam...including th high rise towers. Every Dutch city has the same problem as your MD does, beautiful ancient buildings are being replaced with new modern stuff. It generates an interesting mix of buildings!

I really like the overview, I just love all these extra (transport) details about a city including the names of all the stops. It adds so much realism to a city.

That football tournament sounds very interesting, the people of the medieval city of Biroud play a version of this game as well. The slight differences are that a pig's head is used as a ball and armor and swords are allowed in-game. Would that be a problem in your tournament?

Seriously, this is an excellent MD and the latest updates are the proof of that. Keep up the excellent work!

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on November 04, 2007, 11:08:35 PM
Firstly, I like the transport map, and the way you have shown the overlay on the map. Great effort for a first attempt, seems easy enough to follow, not too many people should be getting lost :).

Little Amsterdam is looking great. Well done with the use of the canals and and the adjoining parks and trails.  :thumbsup:

The fences around Sebes Park caught my attention. Can I ask where you found these?.

Enjoy your stay in OSITM, well deserved.  &apls

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 05, 2007, 07:15:10 AM
Wonderful maps there!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 05, 2007, 11:27:23 AM
Very nice and helpful maps, paroch. Also, your notes on why you chose to plan the routes the way you did are most interesting.
This update is well worth studying in greater depth.

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 05, 2007, 02:53:43 PM
I'll provide replies to you all plus my next update real soon - in the meantime I wanted to give Dave the link to the fences:

javascript:opennew('lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=477')

hmmmmmm, doesn't look right!!!

They are Deadwoods BSC Parks Wall Set v2.  They're right here on the BSC Exchange.  Just do a category search under Parks - BSC compliant and you can't miss 'em.  In picture 8.05 you get that effect by selecting the wall/fence pieces witout the pillars.  Enjoy.

And seeing as I'm here, and I've just done a transportation update, here is a shot of the rail junction just outside of Central Station.  Trains buzz about in all directions (but not seen one use the bridge yet).
8.14  Central Station and Rail Junction
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'til next time..... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on November 05, 2007, 04:06:03 PM
The Little Amsterdam looks very good! :thumbsup:

You are right, Dutch and UK homes look great together. It's a big city, but it has very specific, cosy atmosphere (maybe because of some little parks and other decoration stuff you used :)) I like it!

The transit map is done very professional, looking at it I think it is also functioning very well! &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on November 05, 2007, 04:24:20 PM
Its been a while since i popped in here ( RL and other things) but I missed so much. I don' know where to start $%Grinno$%.I skimmed quickly thou it all but will not go back for a closer look but need a cuppa first. Fancy one?

This is amazing what you have accomplished in so short a time &apls. The one thing i really like is seeing proper football pitches about the place :thumbsup: it's more realistic IMO especially for us Europeans :D

Its a wonderful mix of buildings with atmosphere and charm - well done

:satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 06, 2007, 05:41:14 AM
A great looking picture there! Good work! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 06, 2007, 02:23:54 PM
Update 9 - 6th November 2007

I have to admit, as fiddly and time consuming as the transit map was, I did enjoy doing.  The final result was not as good as I wanted, just because the lines were a bit cramped together and the stop names were a bit squeezed in - but I've learned a few lessons so will hopefully produce something better the next time I produce one.

Replies:

NASCAR Guy:  Welcome to West End, and thanks for the jumpy flamey thing!

Capo:  Hey, thanks for your great comment.  If a Dutchman says such things about Little Amsterdam then I think I must have done well!  Seriously, thank you.  I'll let you reserve any apartment you want.  Have to admit I like Capogracht the best.
As for the football tournament it would be an honour if Biroud enters a team (time differences not withstanding). As for the armour and swords, if your team can get them through airport security they're welcome!

tooheys/Dave:  Glad you like the map - and yes, first attempt, so I hope the next one will be better.  See above for the link to the fences/walls - I'd be amazed if you don't already have them somewhere in your plug ins!  And a team from Balnavia would be a great addition to the tournament, my RL team has an Aussie captain, so more Aussies welcomed!

bat:  Thanks for your regular visits.

Joan:  Thanks for that - glad you found the explanation of interest.

Ennedi:  I'm enjoying your visits and comments - thanks.  I worry that my cities are starting to look the same, so I'm glad you sense a different feeling in each area.

Tea Cat:  Welcome back.  And yes, whilst you're brewing up I'll join you!  I'm a football fan myself and as you know plenty of footie pitches around most UK towns, so I can't resist plopping them in.  Also, most English schools have a pitch, so again, in they go.


OK, I mentioned the West End International Trophy a few posts back.  I've been toying with this idea for a while but West End wasn't really big enough.  It probably is still a bit small for such a project (400,000 citizens), but I think that the Special Interest category is the best time to do this, so here goes - wish me luck, keep your fingers crossed, let's hope there is interest and it's not a big flop!!!

I'm going to hand you over to Sir Bert Microchip, chairman of the West End Football Association (those Brits old enough will get the lame joke) who is hosting a press conference at the West End Imperial Museum in central Regent:

9.01  Imperial Museum
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Hello everyone, and welcome to this magnificent building that houses many of the most significant artefacts from across SimNation.  I'm here today to announce the launch of the first West End International Trophy.  A football competition open to teams from across SimNation.  Now when I say football, all Europeans and South Americans know exactly what I mean.  For our Australians and Americans I should say soccer!

This tournament is being held to promote the sport across all SC4D Mayor Diaries and is also a shameless attempt to boost tourism here in West End.  We feel we have a lot to offer, so we welcome you all to our new but growing region.

The tournament is being hosted by the four major teams here in West End.  Allow me to introduce them to you:

9.02  Wardouroda:
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Wardouroda were the first team to establish in West End.  They recently moved into their fantastic new stadium, New Merry Park from a much smaller ground in the middle of Wardour.  It is a fantastic modern stadium modelled on the one used by FC Roda of Holland.  Wardour is arguably the most football crazy town in West End, with many pitches and smaller teams dotted around the town.  All visitors to the tournament will be impressed by the warm welcome they'll get here.

9.03  Regent Royals:
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The Royals are the smallest of the West End teams in the tournament, but their fans are possibly the most fanatical in the region.  Their Royal Stadium is due to be replaced by a brand new larger stadium on the south bank of the city.  Unfortunately this will not be ready in time for the tournament.  But visitors to this city will have plenty of other attractions away from the football to keep them entertained.

9.04  FC Portland:
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FC Portland have the largest stadium in West End.  And whilst Great Portland is not the largest city, they get capacity crowds at all of their matches.  The final will be held at this stadium and FC Portland will fancy their chances of being there.

9.05  West End United:
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Another new stadium, only recently finished.  Canio Park is home to West End United, the main team in Oxford, capital of West End.  Located next to the City Ferry terminal it is no surprise that their sponsor is P&O Ferries.  West End United caused quite a stir with their choice of name, as we hope to have a national team soon, which will be called West End.  This is bound to lead to confusion!  West End United have a fantastic football academy and have produced some of the finest young players in West End.

To give you an idea where each team is based and how well located they are for travel, here's a graphic:

9.06  Region graphic:
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Well, there are the four host teams.  We are sure they will do well, but the tournament will be very dull without teams from across SimNation, so we are now inviting you all to submit one or two teams from each Region/MD to take part and try to win glory.  The closing date for entries is Thursday 15th November.  This will give us a realistic chance of having the final by the end of the month.  The minimum total number of teams required is 8, but we are hoping for more.  16 would be perfect but if interest is high then we will cap it at 32 (I don't really expect this!).  To enter a team the West End FA asks for the following information:

Mandatory:
1. Team Name
2. Home City name
3. Home Region/MD name
4. Team colours

Optional information (that will help but not essential):
5. Stadium name
6. Stadium capacity
7. Stadium picture (please keep within 800x600 pixels)
8. Team kit picture (please try to keep similar size as above - but I can produce these quite easily)
9. A fact about your team
10. Shirt sponsor

The winning team will win a virtual trophy, which will be presented on your MD (with your permission of course) and will also win naming rights over some future landmarks in West End!

It's over to you to submit your team(s) now - please don't let us down, enter as soon as you can!  I'll hand you back to paroch now.......


For the actual games and calculating the scores, well we have a good system planned that gives an advantage to the larger teams but still leaves it down to an element of luck.  Each team will have a real life "representative" and a tournament will be set up on my son's PS2 game FIFA07 and we'll run a simulation.  Teams in FIFA07 have a star rating from 1 star (poor) up to 4.5 stars (excellent).  I will try to allocate a representative based on your country, and size and quality of your team.  So a team from a large city with a big stadium will have more stars than a village team playing on a park or school pitch!  If you have a real preference for your representative team let me know and I'll see what we can do.  FIFA07 has teams from most European leagues, plus Brazil, Mexico, USA and Korea.  Representative teams so far:

Wardouroda:    Norwich City
Regent Royals: Leicester City
FC Portland:    Newcastle United
West End Utd: West Ham United

I hope this catches your imagination - West End will still continue to develop - this is just a bit of fun and interest on the side for November. 

I hope to see you in the tournament...... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 07, 2007, 08:03:18 AM
Good new update there! And nice tournament! Also wonderful pictures of these stadiums! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 07, 2007, 11:52:04 AM
Hey Paul, this is a very creative update. The tournament is a great idea and I like the way you've planned it out.
Unfortunately there is no soccer stadium in Pitchfork Pass and none planed. The mayor has expressed a strong interest in participating, however, so he wondered if he could co-sponsor someone else's team. Potential commercial sponsors include Hooter's of course, but we have the new Hillbilly Heaven Resort as well.
Let me know and I'll pass along your answer.

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 07, 2007, 02:52:35 PM
LOL, Joan, great post there!  I spoke with Sir Bert Microchip and he said please tell Hooter that we'd welcome a team from Pitchfork Pass even if they don't have a stadium. 

We know some of the schools in Pitchfork have a soccer pitch.  Surely some of the young Texans in town could get together and form a team.  Lack of a stadium does not prevent a team from entering, it just means they'll be assigned a "representative" that has a low star rating.  Still football is a funny old game, and every underdog has his day, so even a small team has a chance.

I'm sure we'll be able to find some alternative sponsorship deals if this doesn't appeal (there are smaller teams in West End that will step in if no entries come forward!)

Let me know what Hooter thinks and I'll pass it on to Sir Bert!

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: NASCAR_Guy on November 07, 2007, 05:25:35 PM
1. Team Name Republic Stars
2. Home City name Degrensville
3. Home Region Republic of Chesterfield
4. Team colours Pale Green/White
5. Stadium name J&J Lube Field
6. Stadium capacity 100 (We are a very small nation.  &mmm)
9. A fact about your team We will lose evey game by at least 7 goals
10. Shirt sponsor Shea's Grocery/Pat's Firefighting Equipment

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on November 08, 2007, 02:06:19 AM
I'd love my team to participate, but my city is still in medieval times..in those times they didn't have real football pitches yet...hmmm what to do. Well, I'm going to dive into LE today and create a medieval football pitch for my team to play and train on :)

Mandatory:
1. Team Name: VV Biroud
2. Home City name: Biroud
3. Home Region/MD name: Evergem
4. Team colours: Green, White

Optional information (that will help but not essential):
5. Stadium name: De Stal
6. Stadium capacity: 100
7. Stadium picture:
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8. Team kit picture:
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9. A fact about your team: A foul will be penalized with a duel
10. Shirt sponsor: No sponsor yet
(11. Team style: physical)

I'm going to write a comment about your update as well, but now I really have to go shopping for groceries..man hungry!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 08, 2007, 10:51:30 AM
Paul, please inform Sir Bert Microchip that Mayor Hooter Hillcrank has submitted the following application for the tournament.
The mayor wishes to thank Sir Microchip for giving the Seagulls a chance to play their very first game ever in competition.

Mandatory:
1. Team Name: The Seagulls
2. Home City name: Pitchfork Pass
3. Home Region/MD name: Wildcat Junction
4. Team colours: Black and gold

Optional information (that will help but not essential):
5. Stadium name: N/A
6. Stadium capacity: 175 (NOTE: The soccer field (AKA football pitch) is located on the college campus. There are no bleachers, but plenty of room for fans to set up their lawn chairs.
7. Stadium picture (please keep within 800x600 pixels): N/A
8. Team kit picture (please try to keep similar size as above - but I can produce these quite easily): ?
9. A fact about your team: The coach has a bumper sticker that says, "I'd rather play baseball."
10. Shirt sponsor: The Hillbilly Heaven Resort

(Paul, please feel free to edit out as much of this silliness as you see fit. Guess I get a bit carried away sometimes, but I just can't hold back my sense of humor once it gets fired up!) :D
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on November 08, 2007, 02:56:49 PM
Dang - I wish I had an MD now....
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on November 09, 2007, 04:31:45 AM
@sebes: I wouldn't mind seeing an MD made by you...and with 3 Dutch MD's we have a bigger chance of winning this tournament as a (sim)nation :)

@paroch: THe pictures of all the stadiums are all so nice that I wanted to comment on those as well

9.01  Imperial Museum
Great use of the parks there, I just love that BSC park release. The park/plaza on the right side doesn't look familiar. Did you create it? Only small things I don't like is the rollercoaster railroad and the changing street texture in the same street, but hey..that's just personal.

9.02  Wardouroda:
Now you've done it..placing a picture of the Roda JC stadium just when my hometown team FC Groningen is going to play them next sunday in RL :D A great picture of a typical stadium scene anywhere in Europe, very realistic, very nice

9.03  Regent Royals:
A stadium next to the church, why didn't they invent that earlier? Many people visit the church on sunday and after that, a nice football game. What a great way to combine religion with sports :) Again, great parks I see there, I hope nobody forgets the hand-brake when they park the car next to the stadium, that could become nasty. What's the building to the right of the stadium? That one looks really nice

9.04  FC Portland:
Grolsch....aaaaah, there is no substitute :) This is my facourite stadium. I liked it then, like it now. I think a bus-mod would make it even better, I really dislike the blue maxis bus..but again, that's personal.

9.05  West End United:
Are you a West Ham fan perhaps? The Canio park, West End and the great youth academy all sound so familiar :) Awesome pic btw, they all are..

Region graphic:
Thanks for the map, my medieval knights/football players are ready to loot...eh play ofcourse :D


Again  &apls &apls &apls for organising this tournament.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on November 10, 2007, 08:08:39 AM
Thanks for your kind PM Paroch! I will enter a team in your contest, even if I have no MD. Maybe one day I will be able to show some of the region that I build, but I need a new PC first... The name of my region is Nieuw Amsterdam (NWA). The city of NWA is the capital of Nieuw Nederland, conveniently located on an island on the east coast of North America, called Manhattan. Does it ring a bell?  The cities nickname is The Big Orange  ;)

So, I proudly present the team of the Big Orange:

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Mandatory:
1. Team Name: FC Manhattan (nickname: De Mets)
2. Home City name: Nieuw Amsterdam
3. Home Region/MD name: Nieuw Amsterdam
4. Team colours: Blue & White

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5. Stadium name: Peter Stuyvesant Arena (Haarlemmerhoogte Stadion)
6. Stadium capacity: 75000

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8. Teamkit: blue white striped shirt, blue shorts, blue white striped socks.
9. Fact: the oldest Football Club in the Americas, founded 1860
10. Shirt sponsor: PanAm / NedLloyd


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 10, 2007, 11:20:00 AM
Update 9a - 10th November 2007

Replies:

Bat:  Thanks for your comment.  I'm sure that there are some impressive stadiums in Capporth City.  It would be an honour to have a team from Capporth in the tournament.

Joan:  I'm glad you like the update and the idea of a tournament.  Thanks for entering a team, I'm sure they'll do Hooter proud.  I looked at the list of soccer teams from the MLS and I think I will select FC Dallas to represent The Seagulls - please let me know if you have an aversion to Dallas!

NASCAR Guy:  Thanks for your team entering the competition.  I'm not sure where in the US you are, so not sure which team to assign - how about the Colorado Rapids?  There is a team in England called Chesterfield (but they're not very good!).  If you have a preference on which team I should use to represent Republic Stars let me know.

Capo:  Thanks for your entry.  I have chosen FC Groningen to represent Biroud - I assume this is OK.  As for your comments - thanks I love feedback like this.  I have recently installed the slope mod, so I bulldozed the railway and rebuilt it, not so bumpy now!  I'm glad you liked the Museum Park.  As for the park/plaza it is called Blam FC Peace Plaza and I got it from STEX - linkie: http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=17872
Good luck against Roda tomorrow and yes, I am a West Ham fan (see my avatar) and we have just beaten Derby 5-0 away from home  ;D.  Paolo di Canio was, and still is, my hero.  I loved watching him play, so Canio Park is my small tribute to him!
I know what you mean about the slopes on the Regent Royals car park.  I must remember to level the land before I build them in future!  And I agree, the blue buses are boring, I must look for a decent bus mod - if you have any suggestion please let me know.
Good luck t Biroud in the tournament.

Sebes:  Thanks for your visit and comment.  I'm glad you've entered a team, and I guess as your team is from Amsterdam, I should use Ajax to represent your team.  If this is not your preference please let me know.  I would be very interested to see your region, so good luck with the new computer.

I will post the profiles I've created for each of your teams tomorrow - having some issues now.  In the meantime, here is are a couple of water shots from Regent. 
9.07:  Twin Bridges
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I rebuilt them after installing the slope mod and they look much better!  They are the first bridges to cross the River Dinnium.


9.08:  Riverside Park
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This is where one of the bus routes terminates (remember the transit map?)  This is a very popular spot in Regent, where you can have a bite to eat and a nice peaceful stroll.

I'll have more time tomorrow when I hope to give a fuller update and catch up with some other MDs.

If you're watching West End - I'd love to see your team in the competition, particularly some of the regulars, tooheys, rooker1, pat, thunder crack and nedalezz.


'til next time...... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on November 10, 2007, 12:40:07 PM
Quote from: paroch on November 10, 2007, 11:20:00 AM

Capo:  Thanks for your entry.  I have chosen FC Groningen to represent Biroud - I assume this is OK.  As for your comments - thanks I love feedback like this.  I have recently installed the slope mod, so I bulldozed the railway and rebuilt it, not so bumpy now!  I'm glad you liked the Museum Park.  As for the park/plaza it is called Blam FC Peace Plaza and I got it from STEX - linkie: http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=17872
Good luck against Roda tomorrow and yes, I am a West Ham fan (see my avatar) and we have just beaten Derby 5-0 away from home  ;D.  Paolo di Canio was, and still is, my hero.  I loved watching him play, so Canio Park is my small tribute to him!
I know what you mean about the slopes on the Regent Royals car park.  I must remember to level the land before I build them in future!  And I agree, the blue buses are boring, I must look for a decent bus mod - if you have any suggestion please let me know.
Good luck t Biroud in the tournament.

The people of Biroud are proud that their team is represented by FC Groningen, they are however fearful of this evil satanic machine called PS2. It's made of materials never seen before and when offered to 'plug it in' the people picked up their torches and had themselves a little riot :)

I will download that plaza for sure, thanks for the linkie. To return the favour: here is a bus mod made by Andreas on the STEX: Andreas BART Bus (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=11783) <-linkie, wich I like a lot. The nice thing is he has elevated rail, trains and monorails in a matching theme.

Thanks for the best wishes for the game, the teams are about equally strong so hopefully it's going to be a good match. I read about West Ham's victory, must have been a great match. I'm waiting for MOTD to watch the goals, I'm glad we have the BBC here :) When I was playing Championship Manager many years ago I always played West Ham...with Paolo di Canio as captain playing behind 2 strikers!

I've finished the stadium 'De Stal' so I will modify my entry post. De Stal is the stable in Dutch so it's not going to be a surprise what this pitch looks like...

About your pictures:
9.07:  Twin Bridges
Not many bridges look well together I think, but you pulled it off. The symetry is what makes the picture..very very nice!

9.08:  Riverside Park
It's good to see we share so many fine bats. The MAS embankment and stairs are a must-install for me as well, I really like what you have done with them. I would have never come up with the idea of building embankments on top of the other, that's the great thing about all these MD's: you can learn so much from looking at beautiful pictures!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: NASCAR_Guy on November 10, 2007, 02:19:06 PM
Chesterfield is on a small Island east of North Carolina.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 10, 2007, 09:41:24 PM
The FC of Dallas will be fine, Paul. I think the idea of bringing your readers in on a tournament is a great idea. I especially like the fact that you have made it so easy for us to participate and planned it so well.
And the photos look good. I've seen many a twin bridge and occasionally see a train trying to keep up with me! They always lose, and you'd understand if you could see my car! :D

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 11, 2007, 03:27:48 AM
1. Team Name: Westmountain Soccers
2. Home City name: Capporth City (Downtown area in West Mountain)
3. Home Region/MD name: Nation of Capporth City
4. Team colors: orange, gray

5. Stadium name: 1st Soccer Stadium West Mountain
6. Stadium capacity: ca. 75 000
7. Stadium picture:
    (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fileden.com%2Ffiles%2F2006%2F11%2F4%2F347058%2FCapporthCityatsc4devotion%2FCCsc4dUpdate5%2FCCsc4dU5p_02.jpg&hash=98a681606576d9f7cec8067f93a78fde5c821102)

8. Fact: "Westmountain Soccers" is the oldest team in the West Mountain Area.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on November 11, 2007, 03:47:42 AM
Ajax is the best team in the Netherlands ( :P )  so go ahead. I am thrilled to see how your competition will go. And with competitors playing in a stable, well, what more should I say... GO METS!

The bridges look great. Those two are also my favourite bridges, but I normally use marrasts waterfronts. They come with underbridge pieces.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Heblem on November 11, 2007, 10:48:21 PM
1. Team Name: Los Pioneros de Canatlán (en. The Pioneers of Canatlán or simply as The Pioneers)
2. Home City name: Ciudad de Canatlán (en. Canatlan City)
3. Home Region/MD name: Canatlán
4. Team colours: White and Blue (adversary, White and Cyan (Teal))

Optional information:
5. Stadium name: Estadio Universitario de la Universidad Autónoma de Canatlán (en. University Stadium of the Autonomous University of Canatlán)
6. Stadium capacity: 15,000
7. Stadium picture: not yet
"Specialist in football defence and attack"
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on November 11, 2007, 10:54:51 PM
Mandatory:
1. Team Name: Terrigal Mariners
2. Home City name: Terrigal
3. Home Region/MD name: Balnavia
4. Team colours: Blue & Yellow

Optional information (that will help but not essential):
5. Stadium name
6. Stadium capacity
7. Stadium picture (please keep within 800x600 pixels)
8. Team kit picture (please try to keep similar size as above - but I can produce these quite easily)
9. A fact about your team: They train at the Terrigal Arms
10. Shirt sponsor: Tooheys (who else)

Paul I'll get you the stadium details later although it will only be a pitch.

By the way, last couple of pic's look great. :thumbsup:

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on November 12, 2007, 11:20:00 AM
paroch, I sent you a message with my team information from Qumma. I love the idea!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 12, 2007, 02:01:39 PM
Update 9b

Replies:

Capo:  "evil satanic machine", LOL, you crack me up :D.  Thanks for your great comment there.
I also meant to say "wow", De Stal looks incredible.  I cannot believe you have lotted a medieval football pitch.  I just hope that the goat and cows don't make too much of a mess near the goalmouth! ()sad()

And it's nice to hear you know about West Ham and Di Canio.  If ever you come to London you must tell me and I'll take you to Upton Park.  Incidentally, in the picture of the Regent Royals Stadium you commented on the church next to the stadium.  Well, at West Ham there is a small church that almost touches the stadium - where football touched religion!

Thanks for the linkie to the bus mod, I'll download it - But I hope to keep my docklands GLR mod, hopefully they don't conflict.

Also, you commented on the change in street texture.  I agree that this is not ideal!  I have the:
BSC_DAE_RoadandSidewalk_textures.dat
BSC_DAE_RoadEuro_textures.dat
BSC_DAE_RoadMaxis_textures.dat
Installed in my plug ins.  I don't appear to have any control over the street/pavement textures.  Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for comments re bridges and the park and I'll try and identify the building next to the Regent stadium for a future reply!!

NASCAR_Guy:  It's always interesting to hear of other places that share a name.  In the UK, Chesterfield is in Derbyshire and is famous for its church that has a twisted spire &mmm
Chesterfield Church:
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Joan:  Thanks, as always, for your support - keep your fingers crossed for the tournament.  Glad FC Dallas are good for you.  And I'm intrigued about your car now.

Bat:  Thanks for entering your team,  You have been with West End since the start, so I'm glad you're here.

Sebes:  You probably know that in England Ajax is a bathroom cleaner!!!  I use the marrast's when I remember to level the coast line before building a bridge, in other words, not very often!!

Heblem:  Welcome to West End and thanks for your team entry.  I will prepare your team picture in the next few days - do you have any particular real life team from Mexico you'd like to have represent The Pioneers?

Dave/tooheys:  Thanks for entering a team Dave.  As per above, team picture in the next day or so.  Unfortunately no Aussie teams on the PS2 game, so if you have any particular European team that is close to your heart let me know, alternatively I'll pick one at random-ish!

Nedalezz:  Thanks for that and for the PM.  Your team picture is on the drawing board and will follow soon.


OK, enough of that, on with the update - over to Sir Bert Microchip


We've had five teams enter the tournament so far.  We'd love some more, so please feel free to send your team to West End.  Closing date is Thursday 15th November.

Here are the teams we have so far:

9.08:  Republic Stars - entered by NASCAR_Guy
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9.09: V V Biroud - entered by capo
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9.10:  The Seagulls - entered by Jmouse
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9.11: FC Manhattan - entered by sebes
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9.12:  Westmountain Soccers - entered by bat
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I hope the colours are OK - the site I use to produce these pics only has a limited number of options - alas my technical skills are also limited!!

Heblem, tooheys and nedalezz's teams will be added very soon.  16 would be the perfect number, so still room for a few more!

Just to prove that life in West End continues, here is an update from Regent:

9.13:  Museum Park
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Arguably the cultural highlight of Regent.  On the left is the Imperial Museum, which houses exhibits that show the history and splendour of SimNation.  To the right is the SimScience Museum which exhibits the greatest scientific discoveries made in SimNation.  This is where you can find out answers to questions like "how does SimGoober produce so many high quality BATs", What does "BSC" actually stand for and "Where does tooheys dig up his jokes"!  And in the centre of the park is the Regent Natural History Museum, which hosts exhibits from dinosaurs to colonies of soldier ants.

9.14:  City Plaza
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This is the official centre of Regent.  The plaza is actually a square that traffic goes round (one-way road) and is home to the key administrative buildings.

9.15:  Overview
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View from the south.

9.16:  Overview
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View from the east.  Central district in the foreground with Little Amsterdam behind towards the top of the picture.

9.17:  Waterfront
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You can see that some high risers have been built on the waterfront.  Proof that Regent is now home to a thriving business community and is not just a place for casinos.

9.18:  West Bank Living
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Some classic medium wealth suburban development.  This is on the West Bank of the main canal, just across from Little Amsterdam.  Unfortunately that school only plays rugby and not football.  We will be working with them to try and change that!

9.19:  Viddiams
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This is the worst neighbourhood in Regent.  But hey, everyone has to have somewhere to live!



That's all for this update.  Regent is now virtually fully developed.  I hope to bring you another update or two before we move on to a different town or city.

'til next time...... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 12, 2007, 02:39:14 PM
Regent is looking superb, Paul. I see several elements here I'll need to place in my region when the time comes. The Museum Park is beautiful, but so is everything else. It all fits together so well, and I think I need to take some lessons from you! ;)
And I'm proud to see the tournament is growing, but it doesn't surprise me. The regulars here at SC4D love to interact and have a good time. That's what the game is all about. :thumbsup:

Until next time...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 13, 2007, 01:09:02 AM
LoL ok after a little poking and prodding from a little mouse im here with a subbmitted entery Paroch lol....

Mandatory:
1. Team Name: PitchForkers
2. Home City name: Farmington Heights
3. Home Region/MD name: New Castia
4. Team colours: Blue & Red

Optional information (that will help but not essential):
5. Stadium name: NCS aka New Castia Stadium cap to be 15,000 for larger venues as well
6. Stadium capacity: Under Construction at this time
7. Stadium picture (please keep within 800x600 pixels)
8. Team kit picture (please try to keep similar size as above - but I can produce these quite easily)
9. A fact about your team: Currently this team is signing up members and scouting the fields, core members came from the All Blacks... ;)
10. Shirt sponsor: Fire Service Suppliers of New Castia / Tooheys Pale Ale...

OK that is my entry for my football team err or soccer lol... either ways Paroch great last few updates here that i missed.... - pat
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 13, 2007, 08:00:10 AM
That's a wonderful new update there, paroch! Great work on that part! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on November 13, 2007, 08:45:52 AM
Im soooo excited about the tournament! Great last update, too. Your waterfront is picture perfect.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on November 13, 2007, 02:16:56 PM
The tournament is getting  %BUd%  !!!

Anyhow, great picture of city plaza! I can picture the Blue&White legion celebrate their victory on that square..! :P ! 
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tkirch on November 13, 2007, 03:41:41 PM
Once again amazing pictures and I would love to get in to your tournament

Mandatory:
1. Team Name: Wombats
2. Home City name: Sheboygan
3. Home Region/MD name: Badger Bay
4. Team colours: Purple & Silver

Optional information (that will help but not essential):
5. Stadium name: Fieldhouse on Devil's Lake
6. Stadium capacity:
7. Stadium picture
8. Team kit picture
9. A fact about your team: They have the prettiest cheerleaders around
10. Shirt sponsor: Billy Bob's Food Emporium
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 13, 2007, 07:53:23 PM
Ohh Hey Paroch i didnt even realize you had updated im sorry lol.... That was a good update i was soo focused on submitting my entry, that i ummm lost track lol.... Wonderful progress and cant wait for the tourney to start - pat
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on November 14, 2007, 12:21:09 AM
Hehehe, Pat you must of shooed that mouse in my direction ::)

Paroch, feel free to select a team for me.

Nice update by the way. Your "worst" neighbourhood looks pretty good. Museum Park is nicely put together as well. :thumbsup:
Oh, and leave that rugby field where it is, it might help reduce the pain threshold of some future soccer players :P Those stretcher bearers work overtime these days  $%Grinno$%

Cheers

Dave





Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 15, 2007, 01:49:53 PM
Hi All,

Well closing date of the tournament is here and we have 15 teams, 4 from West End and 11 entries from you all, the SC4D community.  As 16 will be a perfect number for the tournament, I'll enter a team on behalf of SC4D itself, called the Devotion All Stars.

I'll provide a proper update tomorrow giving full details of the teams entered and the format of the tournament.  In the meantime, here are some replies:

Joan:  What would I do without you Joan?  Thanks for sending PMs and encouraging others to enter the tournament - you're a star.  And thanks for the great comments - you take lessons from me???  It's very nice of you to say, but I think Ennedi has summed it up elsewhere by saying that each MD'er brings something new to the table.  And you're right, this is a great community.

Pat:  Thanks for the football/soccer team entry.  And thanks for the nice words too.

Bat:  Cheers my friend - always good to see you drop by.

Nedalezz:  You're excited?  Good!!!  Having Manchester United represent Fursan FC means you will be one of the pre-tournament favourites!  And glad you like the waterfront - thanks.

Sebes:  LOL, I assume the blue and white army will be reasonably well behaved.  I don't want them smashing up my city!  (Oh, forgot, that tends to be the English fans  :(  )

Tkirch:  Glad you made it in time - good to have you on board.  Hmmm, purple and silver will be a challenge with the web site I use for football kits - you'll have to use your imagination when you see it!

Dave/tooheys: - Thanks for that!  Whilst not a big rugby fan myself, I chuck a few in just to keep a bit of diversity.  There's a saying in England that Football is a game for gentlemen played by animals, whilst rugby is a game for animals played by gentlemen! 

Sir Bert Microchip will be back tomorrow once the draw has been made.  First matches take place on Saturday!

'til next time..... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on November 16, 2007, 12:05:49 PM
Excellent update, I really can't wait for the tournament to begin! When looking at the pictures in your MD, I so want to take my own city into modern times as well... Your MD truly is an inspiration! Even the worst neighbourhood (last pic) is still very nice.

I really have to visit the SimScience Museum, because those are all questions that come into my mind as well!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 16, 2007, 01:31:37 PM
Paroch i agree Joan is such a great recrutter... Heck i think that should be her offical title...  ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 16, 2007, 01:48:20 PM
Update 10 - 16th November 2007

First up - capo, the wait is now over! almost!!  Thanks for your really kind words.  I've never thought that West End could be an inspiration, so big thanks for that :P.


Hello Everyone, my name is Sir Bert Microchip, Chairman of the West End Football Association - welcome to The Imperial Museum in Regent, where the draw for the West End International Trophy will be made in a moment.

We have 16 teams from across SimNation taking part and they are as follows:

Team:                              Manager:              Representative on PS2

Belmont Rangers                Ennedi                   Legia Warsaw
Devotion All Stars              Jeronij & Team        Real Mallorca
FC Manhattan                   Sebes                   Ajax Amsterdam
FC Portland                      Paroch                  Newcastle United
Fursan FC                        Nedalezz                Manchester United
Los Pioneros de Canatlan    Heblem                  Monterrey
Pitchforkers                     Patfirefghtr             Chicago Fire
Regent Royals                  Paroch                   Leicester City
Republic Stars                  NASCAR_Guy           New York Red Bulls
Terrigal Mariners               Tooheys                 Lazio
The Seagulls                    Jmouse                  FC Dallas
VV Biroud                        Capo                     FC Groningen
Wardouroda                     Paroch                   Norwich City
West End United               Paroch                  West Ham United
Westmountain Soccers      Bat                       Borrusia Dortmund
Wombats                        Tkirch                    USA


First, I must thank each manager for entering a team and wish you all good luck.

(Paroch's note:  I hope you are satisfied with your team's representative.  I tried to allocate a team from your own country.  Chicago FIRE seemed appropriate for Pat.  Heblem's Monterrey is his own team I think.  Groningen is Capo's home town team.  No Australian teams on the PS2 game, so I plumped for an Italian team for tooheys.  The Americans are at a bit of a disadvantage because the teams from the USA are not so strong, so I allocated the national team to the Wombats.  And with one team short I made up an entry for the SC4Devotion crew - I'm sure Jeronij is from Mallorca, so hopefully he'll appreciate this!)

The tournament will consist of two parts.  A group stage, where there are four groups of four teams.  Each team will play each other team in their group once.  Three points for a win, one point for a draw, no points for a loss.  At the end of the group stage, the top two from each group will progress to the knock-out stage.  There the winner of each match progresses until we get to the final.

The winner will be awarded a fantastic virtual trophy and will also win naming rights for some future landmarks to be built in West End.

The pre tournament favourites are Fursan FC.  They will be hard to beat as they have a very strong team.  The other teams with the best chance are FC Manhattan, FC Portland, Terrigal Mariners and Westmountain Soccers.  But football is a funny old game, so who knows!

Now it's time for the draw.  First up is Group A.  All matches in this group will be played in Wardour.  And the teams are:
10.1
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Group B will be played in Great Portland.  The teams are:
10.2
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Group C will be played here in Regent.  The teams are:
10.3
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And Group D will be played in the capital, Oxford.  The teams there are:
10.4
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Tournament schedule starts tomorrow, with one match in each group.  There will be one match in each group for the next six days, so the group stages should be ready to start next weekend which will give time for the final to take place on 30 November.

The West End FA will try to post an update on each day of the tournament (although we hear our press officer has a heavy schedule next week so is likely to miss a few days!)  Rest assured all results will be posted as quickly as we can manage.

Good luck to you all - may your teams perform to their ability and may your fans enjoy the hospitality of the host cities of West End.

I'll now hand you back to Regent's mayor, Bill Bailey.

We're proud to be the media centre for the tournament.  When Project Regent started, it did so because we sought your views and Joan suggested Regent as the next city to build because of the islands we have.  Well, the islands have now been developed, so alongside the tournament, we will be showing you how the islands look.  Here is a small teaser, more to come soon..

10.5 Island Teaser:
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'til next time....... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 16, 2007, 03:07:50 PM
Ooooh, this is very exciting! I hope you have a couple of cheering squads on hand.
Now that I've had some experience as a recruiter, maybe I should think about doing a little bookmaking on the side! :D
And I love the teaser photo. Looks like you've done a great job developing that island.

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 16, 2007, 05:40:20 PM
Paroch that is wonderful stuff on the teams... @ joan i'll take a 10 - 1 on that thought...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on November 17, 2007, 02:26:21 AM
This draw isn't a bad one when looking at my small team, I might even hope for a small chance progressing to the next round! As one mayor to the other I do feel I have to warn you, I have heard that a small group of hooligans might follow VV Biroud to the tournament, please warn your local law enforcements and make sure you are ready. Most of the people are fun-loving kind supporters of their team, however there will always be a few ruining it for the rest.

ps loving the teaser, very nice composition and I love the colour in the pic!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 17, 2007, 02:50:43 AM
Great teaser there! And wonderful part of that island! Fantastic work! :thumbsup:

Looking forward to more and more from the tournament!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on November 17, 2007, 12:58:08 PM
Hello paroch,

First of all I must say West End is a really great place, the Little Amsterdam is fantastic, and my favourite places from last updates are Central Plaza and the Museum Park :thumbsup:

As a main soccer manager in Shosaloza I would like to say all Shosaloza citizens are very proud of an advance of our oldest club - Belmont Rangers - to this great tournament!
Here is a photo from the last fashion show in Belmont, organized by Belmont's Mayor on the lakeside in the famous night club "Amnesia":

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The team itself also needs some marketing:
We know very good our soccer teams haven't such great tradition and experience as many others, so the team manager introduced some innovative techniques to Belmont Ranger's training, such as Kung Fu techniques:

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These techniques are really effective in soccer and they are continously improved, but of course sometimes little accidents happen:

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(this photo was made after the last sparring between Belmont Rangers and the best club from the fishermen town Hakodate - Calamare Guys)

It will be a great event, thank you paroch for this idea! :thumbsup:

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 17, 2007, 01:24:14 PM
Before we get started, some quick replies:

Pat - you managed to get your comment in whilst I was updating - great timing!  You're right Joan has done West End proud and is now officially Chief Recruiterteermeister (if there is such a word ;)).  And glad you like the team info.

Joan - or should I say Chief Recruiterteermeister.  I'm glad a degree of excitement is building!  Cheerleaders have never really caught on in football in England, but rest assured there will be plenty of loud support inside the stadia.
If you're running a sim-book I'd be interested to see who you tip and where the simoleons go.

Capo - you're right.  Biroud will fancy their chances in that group - and what a great mix of nations.  Thanks for the warning about the fans - hopefully our stadium security will confiscate the swords!

Bat - cheers my friend.  More island pics below.  Your team is in action tomorrow.

Ennedi - LOL, glad you're entering into the spirit of it.  Feel free to allow all your female fans to dress in the Shosazolan costumes!  And I hope your Kung-fu players don't go head to head with Capo's knights!  It's a tough draw for Belmont, so good luck.

One technical note.  When I set up the tournament it would not allow national teams, so Tkirch instead of USA I chose Galatasary, a strong team from Turkey.  Hope that's OK, no other Turkish teams in the tournie.


Day One of the tournament.  There has been one game in each group.  Results from the games are as follows:

Group A - Wardour
Wardouroda  1-1  VV Biroud
A very nervy opening match.  Biroud looked the stronger team but Wardouroda sneaked a late equaliser in the 82nd minute.  A section of the Biroud supporters acted furiously and were last seen pouring boiling oil over the stewards.  ::)


Group B - Great Portland
FC Portland  0-0  Devotion All Stars
Portland were one of the favourites, and playing on their home pitch many expected them to open with an easy victory.  The All Stars defended really well and had a few chances to score themselves.


Group C - Regent
Regent Royals  0-1  Wombats
The Royals were very poor, maybe nerves got the better of them.  Tkirch's Wombats must be please with this early win.


Group D - Oxford
West End Utd  2-1  Republic Stars
Wet End United became the only one of the host nations to actually win their opening game.  They were 2-0 up at half time but the Stars fought back hard and had their chances to equalise.  The fans from the Republic of Chesterfield seemed to enjoy themselves though.

So congratulations to Tkirch  &apls whose team has got off to a good start.  All of the other teams will have their opening game tomorrow on Day Two.



I said I'd also be showing you some pictures from the islands of Regent during the tournament.

There are three islands in Regent:

Crown Island - a small uninhabited island
Regent Island - home to the largest estates in Regent.  Also where mayor Bill Bailey lives.
Consort Island - the largest island.  Only half of the island is actually in Regent, the rest in Stratton (yet to be developed)

Today I'm going to show you some shots from Regent Island.

10.6  Regent Island Mansions
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Here are the three large estates on the island.  The top one is Audley End, which is a real building in Essex, the county I live in.  It's a great old building in lovely grounds, well worth a visit.  The one at the bottom is open to the public, and is a popular place with the sea-side walks - and tooheys, if you're looking, please forgive the difference in height in a couple of places on the boardwalks.  It took me AGES to line them up as well as they are!
The wealthy residents insisted on solar power for the environment!


10.7  Sir Waldorf Black House
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The house and gardens are now open to the public.  Sir Waldorf was a brave and daring sailor in the 1800's.  He moved to Regent island to see out his days after a long and distinguished career.  Unfortunately his great Grandson, staked the family fortune on the family name, Black, on roulette in the Mirage over on the mainland.  The ball landed in Red 36, so they had to sell up to Stately Homes R Us who opened the House to the public!
I love the way the BSC park in the small square opposite the house entrance conforms with the slope.  The BSC team did an EXCELLENT job with these park pieces.


10.8  Downtown Regent Island
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That is the extent of commercial activity on the island.  It's a real sleepy kind of place.  But if you like strolling along the beach, or through the woods, this is the place to be!


10.9  St Dagmar's Church
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The main church on the island, together with the library and school


10.10  Close Up
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I really like this building.  I added a medium sized cemetery in front of the church.


'til next time........ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 17, 2007, 02:40:09 PM
Congratulations to the winners, and congratulations to you for such a fine update, Paul! :thumbsup:
You've done a good job designing the estates, and overall, Regent Island looks like a wonderful place to relax and enjoy the scenery.
But has the dreaded pine bark beetle invaded some of those trees on the beach? If so, I have a group of college students that can help you out! :D

...and where do you think all those lovely green Simoleons will go!!

Until next time,,,
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 17, 2007, 09:48:11 PM
Paul i tend to have that nack of sticking my neck in at the right time to throw someone off lol.... A big congrats to the winners of the first games of soccor err football... What a fantastic update here Paul and i cant wait to play....   

@ Joan i will take a 5 pt lead against my foe for my first game, I want a cool mil on that ride - pat
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 18, 2007, 03:01:32 AM
Really good looking island's pictures there, paroch! Great work! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on November 18, 2007, 05:14:01 AM
I hope Fursan FC can live up to all the hype! It would certainly bring plenty of pride for the town of 20,000 and the country of 40,000! Go Fursan!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 18, 2007, 07:05:22 AM
Well, the tournament is well and truly underway now.  The PS2 is buzzing and anticiaption is building.

A few replies before the next update.....

Capo - A few posts back you asked about the building next to the Regent Royals stadium.  It's taken me a while to track it down from the ingame menu, and I think it's the Maxis Reward for Major Art Museum.  So, if it is then I guess you'll have it available at some point, although I think it'd look a bit odd in Biroud at the moment!

Joan - hehehe, glad you like the island so far.  And as for the pine bark beetles, I have to admit that I use the lodgepole pine forest almost all the time near to the water.  I just like the look of them - but maybe a bit more variety wouldn't go a miss.  We'd love to host the college students from Wildcat Junction.  I'm sure we could find a suitable environmental project for them!

Pat - thanks for that, and the waiting is over, your team are in this update!

Bat - thanks for your comment - glad you like it.

Nedalezz - fingers crossed.  I'm just glad it's the PS2 that will decide and not me.  So many excellent MDs have entered a team it would be difficult to decide on the strength of each MD.  By the way, loved your recent updates in Qumma.  For those who have not visited - YOU SHOULD!!!!


OK, I'll hand over to Sir Bert Microchip now......


Day Two of the tournament.  All of the teams yet to play their opening match played today.  Results from the games as follows:

Group A - Wardour
Los Pioneros de Canatlan  3-1  The Seagulls
The Pioneers looked very slick and controlled the match from the start.  Their star striker, Marcos Heblem scored a hat trick and was naturally delighted:
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Still, The Seagulls gave a good account of themselves and will have hope for future games.  (sorry Joan! :()


Group B - Great Portland
Fursan FC  1-1  PitchForkers
This was the shock of the day .  Fursan were the pre-tournament favourites.  We've heard rumours that they are a team of part-timers, but don't believe it, they played well but Pat's PitchForkers were just more prepared to battle for it today and deserved their point.


Group C - Regent
Terrigal Mariners  3-0  Westmountain Soccers
Two strongly fancied teams here and it was a great game.  The Mariners were just that bit stronger on the day and in this group, which has been dubbed the Group of Death because of the strength of the teams, three points will be vital. 


Group D - Oxford
Belmont Rangers  1-2  FC Manhattan
This was always going to be a tricky fixture for the Rangers.  But Ennedi can be proud of the way they battled.  Unfortunately they had a man sent off for a kung-fu challenge on the Manhattan goalkeeper.  Manhattan looked a strong side and could go a long way in the tournament.


So congratulations today to Heblem, Tooheys and Sebes on your victories &apls &apls &apls.

After only one game each we won't bother with group tables yet.  We'll publish those after Day 4.  That's all from me today.



OK, back to those islands!  You can guess that I'm having to do a bit of preparation in advance for these updates. 

10.11  Audley End
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Here is a close up of Audley End.  This really is a stunning building IMHO.  I mentioned yesterday that it's in my home county of Essex.  It has very lovely grounds, and no swimming pool!  I have enjoyed using the ploppable rocks, I think they work well part in and part out of the water.


10.12  Island Fellowship Church
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This is an independent church near to the town centre.  The paved plaza next to the church highlights the uneven terrain of the island and is known amongst the teenagers on the island as Skateboard Heaven!


10.13  Mouse Point
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Named after a good friend of Regent.  After all, it was your suggestion to develop the islands!


10.14  Sylvia's Farm
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Believe it or not, this is the only farm in the whole of Regent.  I made the classic mistake of developing everything else to the point where I-Ag demand disappears altogether.  And I have no plop farms (other than rewards) in my plug ins at all.  So this is it, the only farm.


10.15  North Eastern Tip
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This is the North Eastern end of the island.  The opposite end from Mouse Point.  Just across from here is Crown Island.  I hope that ferry doesn't get too close to the rocks!


10.16  Overview of Regent Island
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Here is a shot of the bulk of the island.  I think you get an idea of how green the island is, and also how important ferries are to Regent as a whole.


That's probably all from Regent Island - I've been playing with a mosaic but I'm not convinced it really shows anything special!  We'll move to another island next.

'til next time....... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 18, 2007, 07:15:23 AM
Welcome to page 9!

Again a wonderful update, paroch! Also great pictues of Regent Island! :thumbsup:

Looking forward to the next island! ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 18, 2007, 07:42:09 AM
Hey there, Paul, I like what you've done with Regent Island. The sparse population works well to give it the right kind of atmosphere.
And it looks like the view from Mouse Point is spectacular. I am honored to be a part of this lovely place! :thumbsup:
BTW, congratulations to the latest winners. Actually I'm kind of relieved - now I can sit back and watch everybody else get walloped! :D

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on November 18, 2007, 07:59:29 AM
GO METS!!

I  was preparing a nice comment to prepare for the match while you were posting your update, and find out that De Mets already won their first game. :thumbsup:

So instead of pictures from before the match, here a picture from the BlueWhite Legion cheering their goalkeeper after the shameless attack by the Shosalozan Belmont Rangers. 
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And Paul, that are some great shots of the Regent Islands.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on November 18, 2007, 08:21:39 AM
Congratulations Mr Sebes, one of our main soccer/Kung Fu principles in Shosaloza is to lose in a honourable way :D
But we are now in a group phase of the tournament, and maybe we will meet again... :P

There is a great mobilisation in Shosaloza now, we send the next group of our fans

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All soccer fans from Shosaloza are carefully controlled before they go to West End, a few hours ago our police confiscated some interesting stuff:

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"I think other teams can feel safe till now, but we can't guarantee 100% effectivity after the next lost match" said the police representative :D
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on November 18, 2007, 08:44:32 AM
One of the more unknown Dutch masters "Stein Huysegems" has made a very famous painting of the day that VV Biroud scored a draw in their first official international match.

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For many centuries people thought this painting was showing the storming of the Bastille. However, with new found documents it has now been proven that this was in fact history's first football riot in Biroud, that late equalizer really caused havoc here I must tell you. I'm really hoping that VV Biroud will win their next match (and with hoping I mean one giant crate filled with goldcoins for a certain tournament director...)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Sober on November 18, 2007, 10:26:14 AM
Holy smokes paroch, I kinda disappear for a while and I come back and find you in Special Interests! Whatever you've got, you have to give me the recipe  :D

Those are some really cool islands, though your shadows in your screenshots look a little weird. Can't wait for the next update and I can't wait to see who wins the Tournament!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on November 19, 2007, 01:22:27 AM
Paul, you are certainly expanding your repertoire. Nice work with the shorelines with the use of rock and vegetation.
The island looks great  :thumbsup:

Audley End looks fantastic. I have a heap of mansions etc but I don't think I've seen that one before. Can I ask where you found it.

And finally, GO MARINERS.

Cheers

Dave

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 19, 2007, 02:05:32 PM
Before we get started, some quick replies:

Bat - thanks and yes, page 9 - wow.  I really wasn't sure how long this would run!

Joan - I am pleased you like the island, and Mouse Point seemed kinda appropriate.  It would be a nice spot to watch the boats and ships sail past.  Good luck for your next match.  I'm sure those Seagulls aren't done yet.

Sebes - LOL, glad that you and the Blue and White Legion are entering into the spirit of the tournament.  Great pic of that crowd - which one are you??

Ennedi - that made me laugh too!  You have some very nice ladies in Shosoloza.  I bet they all hang out at Amnesia Nightclub!  And I'm pleased your border control are doing a good job.  Interesting to see that football hooligans even get corporate sponsorship these days!

Capo - LOL, well at least they don't take football too serious then!!!!  Great post - I'm pleased that the tournament is bringing out plenty of humour!  Huysegems also plays football for Feyenoord I believe (I guess not the same Huysegems!).  I'll pass the gold coins onto Sir Bert Microchip and see if he can have a word with the referee.

Sober - Welcome Back.  Yeah, I think they got mixed up and let me in by mistake!!  And I know what you mean about those shadows.  Looks like those trees are really skyscrapers!  Not sure why it's doing that - have you ever seen that elsewhere?

Tooheys - Dave, good to see you.  I'm glad you've noticed my expanding "repetoire" (never thought of it as such before).  I think this is the beauty of MDs.  You look, you read, you decide what you like, you experiment and learn.  I hope West End is improving my SC4 ability but even if not - I'm really enjoying it!  More natural landscaping in the pics below.
As for Audley End, it's here on the LEX.  Category Search - Rewards BTE, page 8, CSX Mansion - Audley End by Colyn    http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=142

And good luck to the Mariners!!


Today is Day Three of the tournament.  Teams are in action for the second time and after this game you should start to get a feel for your chances of progressing further:


Group A - Wardour
VV Biroud  2-1  Los Pioneros de Canatlan
Those players from medieval times really excelled themselves this time.  That's a draw and a win for Capo's team and they are starting to look powerful.  Unfortunately for Heblem his team seemed to be distracted by their own group of cheerleaders!
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Hopefully now the fans from Biroud will calm down and chill out with a glass of Grolsch (or Amstel!).  And I can let you know that no gold coins influenced this result at all!

Group B - Great Portland
Devotion All Stars  1-5  Fursan FC
Well, we knew Fursan were capable of destroying teams and that is exactly what happened today.  The All Stars were never really in this game.  Great Portland bars and restaurants were doing a busy trade after the game as the fans from Qumma celebrated their victory.  I have heard a rumour the team have received a good luck message from the Dawa Berber himself!


Group C - Regent
Wombats  1-1  Terrigal Mariners
Both these teams won their opening games, so this match was always likely to be tight.  The Mariners had the better chances and will feel unlucky not to have won but the Wombats defended valiantly to hold on for a draw.  The fans from Badger Bay and Balnavia hit the casinos in Regent after the match and had a whale of a time - I think they're enjoying the tournament so far.


Group D - Oxford
Republic Stars  2-1  Belmont Rangers
Both teams lost their first match, so now, having lost both games the Rangers look as though they will be eliminated from the tournament at the end of the Group stage.  They were unlucky in a close game.  Still the Republic Stars deserved their win, so well done.  Whilst Oxford doesn't have as many night spots as Regent, both sets of fans found plenty to do, and even had a kick about in the Central Park.


So on day three, congratulations go to Capo, Nedalezz and NASCAR_Guy  &apls &apls &apls- well done to you and your teams.  It goes to show what a fickle and harsh game football can be.  Ennedi has one of the best MDs here on SC4D but his team has two defeats.


During the tournament I am also trying to keep you updated with developments in Regent.  Today we move onto Crown Island.  This is a small uninhabited island.

This is pretty unusual for me, because I love to zone, zone and zone some more!  I can't help myself.  But here, I concentrated on just creating something natural.  I took advice from Capo's tutorial on coastlines and how to make them smoother.  I won't pretend that I have achieved his level of creation, but I am quite pleased with it anyway.  I hope you enjoy too.


11.01  Overview of Crown Island
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You can see where the island lays in relation to Regent Island and the mainland. 


11.02  Zoom in
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Many people have applied for building permission here.  They always say, "only my house", but if you let one in, you have to let them all in!  The only way onto the island is private boat, or swim from Regent Island!


11.03  And zoom again!
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A close up of the sea shore.  Joan, maybe your college student could paint those white rocks a more natural colour!!??
I've not installed a terrain mod yet and am not sure whether to or not - I'd be interested in any opinions you guys have.  After all you know West End nearly as well as I do!


11.04  Balloons
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Sometimes I see something a bit odd and think "where did that come from".  Well, I spotted these balloons the other day.  They just floated up and up and up.  Has anyone else seen these and so you know where they come from??


'til next time..... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 19, 2007, 03:01:32 PM
Crown Island is gorgeous just the way it is, Paul, so leave it alone!! :D If folks just can't stand it, let them swim!
For some variety in rock color, take a look at this: Linkie (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=17005)
Later if you have time, just enter the search word "rock" and you'll find all kinds of stuff.
Anyway, beautiful update, but I was wondering what setting you're using for shadows. I have mine on medium and sometimes they get chopped off so I have to fix them in PhotoShop. It will take someone a lot more experienced than me to explain this.
And Re: the balloons, you just might have discovered Lawn-Chair Larry, one of several "Easter Eggs" Maxis included in the game so I've heard.
Bear with me here because I'm trying to remember a post I saw a couple of years ago on ST. Larry was a real person who tied a bunch of balloons to his lawn chair, took off into the wild blue yonder and eventually was arrested for his trouble.
When he appears in the game, though, it's a good sign because it means the Sims are very happy.

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on November 19, 2007, 03:45:51 PM
5-1, thats more like it! Honestly, the boys were jetlagged from the long trip. That Qumma Airways chartered flight just wore them out! But they came back strong in the 2nd match. They were so impressive that Berber Dawa has been talking about going to watch the 3rd match in person!

paroch, what you are doing here is unbelievable. This is simply the most entertaining MD at the current time, thanks to your tournament AND the constant, large updates.

I loved Mouse Point for some reason, it just seems so calm and serene.

This is absolutely great stuff.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tkirch on November 19, 2007, 06:46:55 PM
Hey my Wombats are better then expected.  Look out here we come....

I love the pictures.  Regent and Crown Island look awe inspiring.  And I think to build on those beautiful islands would take away from their beauty.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on November 20, 2007, 01:50:20 AM
Well haven't lost a game yet, just lucky tkirch, another 30 secs of injury time and we would have had you  :D

Paul looking good as always  :thumbsup:. Terrain mods are great, but finding the right one is difficult. Given your current island region, the current look works quite well. Perhaps something like urban's although that is more tropical.

Anyway, looking forward to see what you do with Crown Island.

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on November 20, 2007, 03:24:12 AM
Woohoo Biroud's first win! The people and it's ruler couldn't be more proud, instead of riots festivities have started in the small town of Biroud. Mayor, I'm also proud that Biroud has opened it's own travelling agency wich offers trips to West End. I guess organising that tournament will make a huge increse in commercial demand in West End, because all the residents now want to go there and support their team. A new feature is that you can now also fly to West End. The BLM (Biroud's Luchtvaart Maatschappij) has bought a fine catapult wich will be used in this new form of transportation. People who buy an economy class ticket will be shot with the catapult towards West End, no drinks will be served on flight. With a business class ticket a stewardess will acompany you with the flight and some nice soft pillows are given to ease the landing. It's still a bit tricky to let all the people land at the same place so I hope this new method of transportation will not frighten a West-Ender if a Biroud citizen lands in their front yard by mistake.

Stein Huysegems is indeed a football player, he played for Feyenoord last season. This season he plays for FC Twente, I'm surprised you recognized the name.

About your pictures:
11.01  Overview of Crown Island: It's really great to see that you used my tutorial and create something completely on your own with it. I really like these natural islands and what a great view you must have on them when you are at the top of the ferris wheel. A very nice overview of these two islands.

11.02  Zoom in: You are completely right denying building requests on this fine natural island. I know most people really want the best for this island, but unfortunately everywhere humans go, destruction of nature will follow. Perhaps you should request a 'special natural landmark status' for this island, so no smart lawyer can find a loophole for a building permit. Very nice touch in this picture: the natural lake/overlay close to the shore, that looks like a place where a lot of 'life' would be. I can already imagine people hiding in the bushes with their binoculars ready to spot the 'redwinged fisher king' that would probably reside there.

11.03  And zoom again!: Now I have to ask you, what is the rocky substance in the sea close to the island? Where did you get that plopable thingy? I downloaded all CP's and JRJ's plopable stuff and I never saw that before, you are making me curious. The placed white rocks look a bit out of place to tell you the truth, maybe a bit more variety with JRJ's plopable rocks (under dedgren in LEX) and the rocks that Joan provided in her reply would 'liven' it up some. Since a few weeks I am using the Italia Landterrain mod, it can be found on the PLEX and I like it very much. In Ennedi's MD you can find a great tutorial on modding the terrainmod, you asked for advice on a terrainmod. Well that one is the best imho :)

11.04  Balloons: No I've never seen that before but thanks Joan for explaining! I'm going to keep a keen eye on my town when it's in modern times, I'd like to see the balloons as well (and the gnome, I've never seen the gnome either!!)

Great update on a great tournament, what else is there to say?
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 20, 2007, 06:19:21 AM
Crown Island is looking very nice! and also great detailing! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on November 20, 2007, 12:44:12 PM
Tomorrow will be the big day: several thousand Blue White tyfosi have booked charter flights and ferries to Oxford, to support their team and party with the OXford locals, the Shosalozan ladies, and the Biroud Happy Landers.  Nieuw Amsterdam insurance companies even offer packages covering being hit by Biroud's Economy Cabin fans being mis-shot by BLM, and offer a premium bonus if a Business Cabin stewardess is landing on your lap. The Legion is now gathering at Oxfords central square for some Grolsch SABMillers and have a great time before tomorrows match:  GO METS!!


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Oh - and the island and beaches shown are wonderful - a good place to relax after an exiting game and a few too many Grolsch SABMiller  ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 20, 2007, 07:37:05 PM
Paul wonderful stuff here and i cant belive i tied for my first game eeeeek i better run and hide now from Jsquad i here them boys are nasty if you lose lol........ BTW i love chicago fire they are a strong team and its a perfect fit as well....  Awesome update my friend and till next time see you soon - pat
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 21, 2007, 12:12:41 PM
Work commitments kept me out late yesterday, so Day Four is a day late - sorry guys!  Also, because I've been busy with work stuff I've not had as much time as I'd like to visit other MDs, so I apologise to those of you who I've not visited in the last few days.

I loved your replies - all very funny and really entering into the spirit of what I hoped the tournament would be - a bit of fun!!!

Replies:

Joan:  Where would I be without you Joan ()what()  Great comments, great answers, and some great suggestions.  The Larry thing is very interesting - never knew that.  I've heard about the gnome but never seen him.
As for my shadow settings - they were on medium but I recently cranked them up to high.  Can't remember if these pics were taken on medium or high.  I'll have to have a play around as I don't have photoshop.

Nedalezz:  Thanks for the kind words.  I must confess that I am trying to put as much into November as I can - OSITM is an honour I didn't expect, so I'm trying to do it justice!  As for Berber Dawa's visit, I'll make sure that Portland Airport has plenty of red carpet ready!

Tkirch:  Yeah, those Wombats are doing well - they could be the surprise package of the tournament!  After the comments received I can assure you all that Crown Island will remain undeveloped.

Dave:  The Mariners are looking good so far.  Hopefully they'll go further than the Aussies in the rugby world cup!!!  ;) And thanks for the advice re terrain mod.

Capo:  It's official, you are insane!!!  Must be that orange madness!!!  I will try to build a swamp region for safe soft catapult landings.  I recognised Huysegems from that evil machine that is PS2.  My son and I have a mini league and one of my teams is Feyenoord and he scores plenty of goals.
Your tutorial was VERY useful.  Simple things like making the "cursor" smaller and treating it like a paint brush make so much difference.  I'll keep playing with it and see what else I can produce.
And your comment re natural landmark status and birdwatchers is interesting.  Near where I live we have a large resevoir with bird watching hides.  Do you know of any "hides" Bats/Lots that are available? They'd work well there.
As for the rocky substance, here'e the linkie  http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=17099
I use it quite a bit - I think it could work well in Biroud.  And yeah, the white rocks need to change.  I'm hoping the collage students from Pitchfork Pass will come over and either paint them or replace them!  And thanks for the advice re terrain mod.  I've also seen an eagle flying around before.
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You ever seen him?

Bat:  Thanks, glad you like the island - bit different for me!

Sebes:  Big day indeed.  West End United have a place in my heart but I promise that it is all decided by the PS2.  And I'm glad it is.  If I tried to decide myself, how could I choose from all the great MDs, great support you guys give and great teams you've entered.  Oxford know that your guys will be in party mood, so the beer is ready and chilled.
Great comment by the way.  You and Capo seem to be having a Dutch humour competition!  I'm trying to work out which one in the picture is you and which one is Capo!

Pat:  Glad you're liking the Fire, the Chicago Fire that is.  And thanks for the visit and kind word.


Today is Day Four of the tournament.  Teams are in action for the second time and after this game you should start to get a feel for your chances of progressing further:


Group A - Wardour
The Seagulls  1-0  Wardouroda
A great result for the team from Pitchfork Pass.  Those young Texans scored early on in the game, after just 2 minutes and then had to work really hard to keep Wardouroda out.  The home side will be bitterly disappointed and know they have to win their last game to have a chance of progressing.

                               Points      Goal Difference
VV Biroud                 4                +1
LP de Canatlan           3               +1
The Seagulls               3                -1
Wardouroda               1                 -1

Biroud play The Seagulls in their final match, so The Seagulls have to win that to have a realistic chance of progressing.



Group B - Great Portland
PitchForkers  4-2  FC Portland
After their great result against Fursan, the PitchForkers record a stunning victory over the host team.  The PitchForkers were literally on fire - and then Pat put them out!  Great Portland was kept awake through the night as the fans from New Castia partied long and hard in the streets of the city centre.

                               Points      Goal Difference
Fursan FC                   4                +4
PitchForkers               4                +2
FC Portland                1                 -2
Devotion All Stars      1                 -4

PitchForkers have to play Devotion All Stars next and a draw will see them through.  The All Stars need to win by a big margin to give them hope.  Fursan play the hosts, FC Portland.  The situation is similar, a draw for Fursan and they qualify.



Group C - Regent
Westmountain Soccers  1-0  Regent Royals
The Royals continue their dismal form with another one-nil defeat.  Bat's team from Capporth did what they had to do, soak up pressure and convert one of their chances.  It was a very professional performance.  Rumours are starting to circulate that the Regent team are spending too long in the casinos in town!

                               Points      Goal Difference
Terrigal Mariners       4                +3
Wombats                    4                +1
Westmountain             3                 -2
Regent Royals             0                 -2

The Royals become the first team to be eliminated from the tournament.  Still, they don't have too far to travel home!  Terrigal are almost through to the next round, they'd need to lose heavily against Regent in their last game and also see Westmountain win big against Wombats.  Westmountain will need to beat Wombats by three goals to progress.


Group D - Oxford
FC Manhattan  0-1  West End United
De Mets can feel very upset after this result.  The referee awarded a late penalty that was hotly disputed.  Maybe it was the home crowd on his back that influenced him, who knows.  But Noble, the young West End midfielder, stepped up and slotted it away.  Tempers were frayed and the Blue and White army vented their frustration afterwards by painting Dutch slogans on the walls around the stadium.

                               Points      Goal Difference
West End United        6                +2
Republic Stars            3                 0
FC Manhattan             3                 0
Belmont Rangers       0                 -2

Belmont play West End Utd in their next game, so are also eliminated from the tournament.  Even if they win, the other match will mean that they cannot progress.  The Republic Stars versus Manhattan match is now a winner takes all game.  If it's a draw the Republic Stars will progress as they have scored three goals, whereas Manhattan have only scored two.  That will be a very nervy match!

The next round will shape up as follows:

Winner Group A  v  Runner Up Group B   - Regent
Winner Group B  v  Runner Up Group C   - Oxford
Winner Group C  v  Runner Up Group D   - Wardour
Winner Group D  v  Runner Up Group A   - Great Portland

I'm not going to be around for a couple of days now, so I'll post a combined update for Day 5 and Day 6.


OK, now some pics from the last island in Regent - Consort Island.

This is a bigger island than Regent Island and it is also more developed.  It even has some small industrial zones.

11.05  Overview of Consort Island
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This gives you an idea of where the island sits.  You can see where the two ferries are sailing - this is the main shipping lane from the ocean into the River Dinnium.


11.06  North Ferry Park
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Nice park, shame about the uninspiring town!  This town is somewhat functional I think, without looking that nice.  But still isn't that the case in RL sometimes?


11.07  North Ferry
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Here is a close up of the North Ferry Terminal.  One of PEG's great creations.  I had some serious issues getting these to work properly - but a delete and reinstall to the plug ins seemed to do the trick!

That's all today,

'til next time......... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 21, 2007, 01:28:09 PM
Absolutely stunning overview, paroch, which I might add shows off the lovely view from Mouse Point! :)
You've done a fine job on the islands - they're just right, not overcrowded the way I'd probably make them!
As for the tournament, I'm so pleased I could help in some small way. I can't believe the Seagulls won a game, or did they? This is all very confusing to me &mmm, and the coach has left town this week to play baseball! :P

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Heblem on November 21, 2007, 02:38:29 PM
from the another game i'm sorry i was distracted, but wow!! i'm really surpired an honored for the results!  ;D

Excellent work in the tournament really glad to see my team getting on it :P hurray
Today will be a special information in Canatlan about this success ;)

Take care, go! The Pioneers
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 21, 2007, 07:46:31 PM
Wooooooooohooooo GOOOOOOO Pitchforkers!!! WOW im pleased to win the game out right that is soo cool and Paul you are doing a great job here, see you next update - pat
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tkirch on November 21, 2007, 08:25:40 PM
More stunning pictures.

11.05 I live those Consort Island, Mouse Point and Regent Island all work together in that picture.  It is a perfect picture.

11.06 I love the park.  As far as the city, I like it.  Not always does a city come out the way you hope, but it doesn't look hodgepodge, it has its own character which in many ways is much nicer than a planned out city.  Very realistic in a growing town, especially like here in the US.  In Europe you have so many older cities, you get that buildings have been around, where here you see cities that way. And I think it looks nice, you have open areas, I like the street in the upper right that goes up the hill.  Looks like you have quite a few Olive Gardens in the city, but hey they do have good food.

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 22, 2007, 06:02:29 AM
Great new pictures there, paroch! :thumbsup:

Good to hear that my team has won its second game! ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on November 22, 2007, 07:32:51 AM
The Blue White legion had a bad evening in Oxford. What started as a great party, first on the squares in the city and later in Canio Park, became a fight and chase with police squads and local WestEnd United supporters after the disputable penalty that gave the hometeam the full prize of the game. Back home in New Amsterdam the talk of the evening was how the referee could make such a decission, shamelessly benefiting WestEnd United. Although the athmosphere was very tense, the Blue White Legion is still very positive about the changes for De Mets, and is already preparing their move to Great Portland after the next game. Chance of becoming group D runner up is however very present, and when looking at the capacity of the Royal Stadium in Regent, NNVB-officials are expecting the worst... Extra stewards are currently recruited, to be flown into West End to assist the West End police in Regent if needed. In the mean time the players are preparing for this important match against the Republic Stars from Chesterfield.

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More and more Mets fans arrive in West End to support FC Manhattan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on November 23, 2007, 02:06:17 AM
QuoteIt's official, you are insane!!!
That's what my psychiatrist keeps telling me, however me and my seven other personalities completely disagree with him ;) just kidding!! :D

I'm very surprised to see Biroud leading group A, but that last match is going to be decisive. Thanks for the rocky substance linkie, much appreciated! Yes the birdwatcher hides we have over here as well, it would be a very nice addition to any rural scene I agree. As soon as I have located a lot (or found a way to create it myself) I will send you the linkie.

This is what they look like over here, I think they would be the same, Im just posting the links, not the pictures..it's your MD and I don't want to pollute it :)

http://www.maldon.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/E146A5B1-9EFB-43B5-BD77-7C6B526CD58F/7714/BradwellCockleSpitHidereduced.jpg

http://www.alderney.gov.gg/pimages/348_lg.jpg


Unfortunately I have a bad case of the flu right now so I'm not really in the mood to play SC4, I owe you a longer comment next time. I just wanted to add that I really like the pictures you added (as always).

Take care my friend and good luck with the next update (and supporter riots of the teams that did not qualify)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 24, 2007, 08:11:29 AM
Before we get started, some quick replies
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Joan:  Good to see you in town again!  Thanks for your kind words and glad you like Mouse Point.  As for the tournament, each team plays three games (against the other teams in their group) and then the top two in each group progress to the knock-out stage of the competition.  And I guess my understanding of baseball is similar to yours of football/soccer ;)

Heblem:  Good to see you here and no need to apologise.  It is difficult to visit all the MDs here at SC4D, so many good ones.  And a great newspaper report you produced on your MD.  For those who have not visited Heblem's MD - YOU SHOULD!!

Pat:  Thanks my friend.  Those PitchForkers aren't finished yet I suspect.

tkirch:  Thank you for your comments, I appreciate what you're saying.  As for those Olive Gardens, yes, three next to each other.  I should have weeded two out, but you are right, they do good food!

bat:  Good to see you again, and yes, congrats to the Westmountain Soccers.

sebes:  Great post, thanks.  Luckily the police managed to contain the few troublemakers.  Those Mets fans know how to party and the bar owners in Oxford are enjoying having full bars.  The referee from the last game has been sent home from the tournament in disgrace.  He has been booked in to get new spectacles next week!

capo:  Glad the linkie was of use.  And yes the pics of hides are just what I had in mind.  And capo, please feel free to post pics here.  Someone who can create Biroud can not be capable of "polluting" this MD here!  I hope you feel better soon, and any comments you, or anyone else, leaves here on West End are ALWAYS appreciated regardless of length.


I know I've not updated for a few days (been a busy bee!), so today is a double update from the tournament.

This update covers both Day Five and Day Six and marks the end of the group stage.  That means that half of the teams will be eliminated and leave West End.  Hopefully even if your team departs, you'll still pop back to see how things are progressing.


Group A - Wardour
VV Biroud  3-1  The Seagulls
The team from Evergem only needed a draw to guarantee qualification but an early goal settled the nerves and they went on to win comfortably.  Still The Seagulls can be proud, proud of their performance, proud of their fans and proud to be heading home to such a great MD!

Wardouroda  0-0  Los Pioneros de Canatlan
Quite a dull game really.  The host team will be disappointed that they never really got going in this tournament.  Still, all credit to Heblem's team, they knew a draw would be enough.


                               Points      Goal Difference
VV Biroud                    7                +3
LP de Canatlan             4                +1
The Seagulls                3                -3
Wardouroda                 2                -1

Congratulations go to Capo and Heblem.   A BIG thanks to Joan for her participation and for being Chief Recruiterteermeister.  Without Joan's encouragement this may not have happened!



Group B - Great Portland
Devotion All Stars  0-3  PitchForkers
The PitchForkers notched up another fine performance and are unbeaten so far.  The people of Great Portland were kept awake again - boy your fans know how to party Pat!  The PitchForkers will now move on to Oxford for their next game.  And Oxford have only just got used to Sebes bunch from Nieuw Amsterdam!

FC Portland  3-1  Fursan FC
At last the host team put in a performance that they can be proud of.  They took the game to Fursan and were 3-0 up at half time. They had to win by 4 goals to go through and even though they won the match their hearts were broken when Fursan scored with 3 minutes to go.  The Dawa Berber is reported to have paid a big bonus to each team member for qualifying to the next round.

                               Points      Goal Difference
PitchForkers                 7                +5
Fursan FC                    4                +2
FC Portland                  4                  0
Devotion All Stars         1                 -7

Congratulations to Pat and Nedalezz.  Good luck in the next round.  Commiserations to the SC4D team and also to FC Portland.  This was the team from West End with the best chance, so it looks as though the trophy could be heading elsewhere.



Group C - Regent
Wombats  0-0  Westmountain Soccers
Westmountain needed to win this game by at least 2 goals and they had their chances.  The Wombats goalkeeper was their hero and he made a dozen fine saves.

Regent Royals  1-1  Terrigal Mariners
The host side restored a bit of pride with their first goal and first point of the tournament.  Unfortunately it was a case of too little, too late.  Tooheys team played well and will fancy their chances of going a long way.

                               Points      Goal Difference
Terrigal Mariners            5                +3
Wombats                      5                +1
Westmountain               4                 -2
Regent Royals               1                 -2

Congratulations to Tooheys and Tkirch.  Good luck in the next round.  Thank you Bat for your team taking part.  Capporth is a fine region and the players will go home knowing that they were close to doing it.  The Regent Royals have a new stadium planned, but after that performance questions will be asked whether they deserve it!



Group D - Oxford
Republic Stars  0-2  FC Manhattan
De Mets bounced back from the disappointment of their last match, knowing they had to win to progress.  This was a strong performance and the Dutch technical ability was what gave them the edge.  The Stars had a few chances but as soon as they went behind things looked hard for them.

West End United  1-3  Belmont Rangers
Ennedi's team did him proud here.  A strong performance gave them their first win.  But those two earlier defeats were too much and they are eliminated.  West End United will be disappointed they didn't do better in this game as it means they did not win the group.

                               Points      Goal Difference
FC Manhattan                6                +1
West End United            6                  0
Belmont Rangers            3                  0
Republic Stars               3                 -1

Congratulations to Sebes and me!  Thankyou Ennedi and NASCAR_Guy for your teams taking part.  Ennedi, I have enjoyed your humour, so hopefully your fans will stay in town for a while and watch some more games.  And for those returning home, I hope they have a big night out in the Amnesia!  NASCAR_Guy, good luck with your racing league.

So the draw for the next round is as follows:

Match 1 in Regent                       VV Biroud (capo)    v  Fursan FC (nedalezz)
Match 2 in Oxford                        PitchForkers (Pat)  v  Wombats  (tkirch)
Match 3 in Wardour          Terrigal Mariners (tooheys)  v  West End United (paroch)
Match 4 in Great Portland        FC Manhattan (sebes)  v  LP De Canatlan (Heblem)

Then the winner of Match 1 plays the winner of Match 3 in the semi final.
And the winner of Match 2 plays the winner of Match 4 in the other semi final.

OK, enough words, here are some pics.....  Probably the last from the islands....


11.08  Consort Overview
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Here's another overview showing more of the island.

11.09  Martensen Stacks
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This is probably the most spectacular natural feature in West  End (so far!).  The Stacks were formed by limestone deposits millions of years ago. 

11.10  Martensen Stacks close up
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Here's a closer shot.  I enjoyed creating these.  Again, Capo's coast line tutorial was a big help.

I hope you enjoyed.

'til next time......... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 24, 2007, 08:28:42 AM
Very nice looking natural new area there! Fantastic pictures of it! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 24, 2007, 10:54:41 AM
Consort is perfect, Paul, and I'm going to miss combing those beautiful beaches around the islands!
BTW, I'm glad you explained those interesting rock formations - I was wondering about them.
Well, I'm looking forward to seeing what's in store for us now.

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on November 24, 2007, 02:38:47 PM
The people of Nieuw Amsterdam are very proud of FC Manhattans achievements in WestEnd. And all officials are glad that the world has seen how great the Dutch Americans can play Football and party and have as if the cup is already theirs.
Of course, a big hurdle is yet to be taken: how to beat those Pioneros from Canatlan with star striker Heblem. Anyhow, while the Blue White Legion is still celebrating last night's victory in WestEnd, new fans are arriving in Great Portland, hoping for their share of the famous Great Portland Beef and Onion Pies
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Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on November 25, 2007, 02:49:12 AM
Well it wasnt the most impressive performance, but qualification was the main goal, and the boys achieved it!

Berber Dawa did pay the players a bonus, but did warn them against what seems to be their complacent nature.

Those rock spikes are fantastic and your coastline looks magnificent! Bring on the 2nd Round!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on November 25, 2007, 04:44:11 AM
Woohoo! VV Biroud advanced to the next round, I couldn't be more happy! When the news reached Biroud, all the people stormed the streets in one big celebration. I'd like to show you a picture of the parade that was organised, not only for VV Biroud, but also for Lord paroch for organising the tournament where VV Biroud had the chance to shine.
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Perhaps this could be the beginning of a town twinning (sister city) project between our two towns? I know Biroud can use a nice economic boost and perhaps the people of West End are interested in visiting their sister town for a small historical holiday?? The good care from the West Enders for the Biroud people who bought a ticket at the BLM has really made an impression on the people of Biroud, there's even a new saying in the streets here: "As helpful as a West-Ender", wich means that you do everything possible in your life to help another. And the new nickname for the monastary is now " De West-End" ...you can see that this tournament is really giving a mark on city life in Biroud!

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on November 25, 2007, 07:16:46 AM
Yes, Belmont Rangers saved the rest of their honour winning their last game, but this acceleration came much too late. They come back to Shosaloza this evening, but instead to play and drink in Amnesia they go to the high mountain retreat to make meditations and learn to draw their internal energy in a more proper way :D

But Shosaloza girls don't want to come back! "West End is a beautiful place, and the atmosphere of this tournament is really great! There are a lot of nice clubs, discos and other interesting places on Regent and Consort Islands, and we love the intimate atmosphere and beautiful beaches on the Crown Island - especially at the evening! And these all nice boys... We simply can't leave them alone!"

Some of our girls say Shosalozan soccer team is too poor yet, so they decided to make their own team:

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They started to work very seriously

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So don't be surprised we will have not only the male team in the next tournament ;) (of course they want to play with male teams, they are sure they will be enough good!)
So we will stay at the West End, and we will support all teams, but especially our group leader - FC Manhattan, and of course Biroud knights ("it's such romantic!" - said one of our girls)

:thumbsup:

These islands are really great, I like this region more and more!
If you have any specific questions about terrain mods, inform me please
Adam
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on November 25, 2007, 08:11:25 AM
I do hope that the Biroud players will not get too distracted by their female fans, the most of their lives they've been staring at the back end of a horse...this is something completely new and unknown to them to stare at :D

If your new female team by any chance needs a coach Ennedi, I'm sure I can find a spot in my busy schedule ..just because I love the sport of football, that's really the only reason! :D

paroch: I forgot to let you know how much I liked the islands, the Martensen Stacks are really great!!! I just love to see something 'different' yet also it doesn't seem out of place. You can already imagine the tourists walking around and wondering how those rocks were created, like that famous french place wich name I forgot :)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 25, 2007, 12:40:08 PM
REPLIES:
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Bat:  Thanks as always.

Joan:  I'm flattered with your use of "perfect"!  The West End region has plenty of water - sea, rivers, islands, lakes.  So I suspect there will be more beaches (and I enjoy them as well).  As for what's next.... only two final things for Regent, see below for today's installment...... ;)   And as for my explanation re the rocks, erm, well, erm, I just made up the first thing that came in my head.  Was hoping we don't have an amateur geologist on here &mmm

Sebes:  I really hope that is not YOUR dog!!  Thanks for your visit and my greetings go to the people in Nieuw Amsterdam (I can't wait for you to get a new PC and see your MD).  As for the beef and onion pies.... steak and kidney is my favourite at football ()stsfd().

Nedalezz:  Now the serious matches start - good luck.  And I hope Berber Dawa makes it to West End for a match soon!

Capo:  What a parade your people put on.  That looks a great setting.  I am sure Biroud will have such a square.  Maybe one for your next update??  It's good to see football has driven people crazy throughout the ages!  And as for a sister-town / twin-town, West End would be honoured.  Take your pick from the cities in West End - Wardour (where your team played its group matches), Great Portland, Little Portland (much agriculture), Regent (home to Little Amsterdam and the casinos), Oxford (the capital at present), Cavendish (large agricultural town I have just started work on).  I'm not sure how the twinning would work, but I'm sure we can make it up as we go along!
And thanks for your comments re the Martensen Stacks.  As you say, a bit different!

Adam (Ennedi):  I love the pictures you provide!
I can imagine the Belmont Rangers at the mountain retreat.  Hopefully the RL England players will be sent away for some serious contemplation!  I hear that the players from Regent Royals have been made to stand on top of the rocks at Martensen Stacks!
Thanks for your kind comment and should I have any questions on terrain mods I'll take you up.  That tutorial you provided was amazing but probably a bit beyond my capabilities at present!

I went to watch my own beloved West Ham United today.  We drew 1-1 against our London rivals, Spurs.  Our keeper made a penalty save in the last minute, so a draw was good in the end!  It was a really good game to watch, hopefully this tournament here can provide some similar excitement!!


Day 7 and 8 were rest days.  A chance for the players to recuperate after the three matches of the group stage.

OK, Let's get straight to the action:

Day 9 - Match 1 in Regent - VV Biroud v Fursan FC
Wow, what a game.  A real thriller where the lead kept changing hands.  Biroud got off to a dream start, scoring from a corner in the 4th minute.  Fursan fought back hard, but conceded a second goal in the 35th minute after a sweet passing move by Biroud.  But just before half time, Fursan pulled one back after some neat work in the box by their star striker Tevez.
At half time you could sense that the Fursan goal had given them some belief and that they would fight really hard.  Which is what they did and they scored in the 48th minute.  2-2 and it was all to play for.  Fursan piled on the pressure and scored their third from a free kick on 62 minutes.  Was that it?  No chance.  Biroud's manager, made a change, bringing on their young striker, Van Hoogervord and taking off a defender. Would the gamble work?  Well, on 84 minutes the youngster pounced on a loose ball to score the equaliser, 3-3.
But Fursan's Tevez broke Biroud's hearts with a header in injury time.
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And that was it, Fursan progress and VV Biroud are out. 
VV Biroud  3-4  Fursan FC 
West End are preparing the catapults to fire the Biroud team back to Evergem.  But they will always be remembered for their fighting spirit (and the boiling oil!)


Day 9 - Match 2 in Oxford - PitchForkers v Wombats
This was the clash of the American MDs.  Which one would emerge the stronger?
It was an edgy affair, with both teams being cautious and concentrating more on not making mistakes than pushing for a goal.  PitchForkers were angry that they were not awarded a penalty on 39 minutes.  It looked like a hand ball by a Wombats defender, but the ref looked long and hard before saying NO.
Nil, nil at half time.
In the second half the Wombats upped the speed of the game and started to pressure the PitchForkers goal.  And the pressure finally paid on 71 minutes, with a blistering shot by Martins that came back off the post only to prodded home by Grimes.  One nil to the Wombats.  But Pat's team have fire in their bellies and they soon pulled one back, with a deflected goal on 79 minutes.
At the end of 90 minutes it was all square, so extra time was played.  Both teams looked tired and sure enough, it was a defensive error that caused the goal.  A mix up between two PitchForker defenders let the Wombats captain sneak between the two defenders and shoot home.  There were no other clear cut chances, so the match ended:
PitchForkers  1-2  Wombats
So tkirch's team are through - congratulations.  Pat, unlucky my friend, it was close.


Day 10 - Match 3 in Wardour: 
Terrigal Mariners v West End United
There was a real party atmosphere in the stadium at Wardour.  The Mariners fans certainly made plenty of noise and it paid off when their team took an early lead on 10 minutes.  The rest of the first half saw plenty of action but no real clear cut chances.
The second half started and within 3 minutes West End were back in the game, with Collins, the big defender heading home from a corner.  The Mariners dug deep and were next to score on 77 minutes.  2-1.  But with just seconds to go, Cole got the ball on the edge of the box, played a neat one two and slotted home underneath the advancing keeper.
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2-2 and extra time beckoned.  West End had the best chance during extra time but were denied by the cross bar, so the game went to penalties. 
Penalties are a harsh way to decide a game, and it was harsh on the Mariners, they had two misses, so West End won 4-3 on penalties.
Terrigal Mariners  2-2  West End United
  (West End United win 4-3 on penalties)

West End United book their place in the semis and their fans are celebrating.  Tooheys team can feel very unlucky to go out on penalties.  It's a long flight back to Balnavia, and maybe one day a team from West End will make the journey.


Day 10 - Match 4 in Great Portland:  FC Manhattan v Los Pioneros De Canatlan
This stadium will host the final and both teams today thought they had a chance of being there.  But straight from the whistle it was Manhattan that were in charge.  Canatlan just didn't seem to get going today and on 32 minutes they fell behind to a crisply struck goal.
Half time gave the Pioneers a chance to re-group and the manager made a substitution.  Canatlan looked a little brighter in the second half and had a few chances, but on 68 minutes Manhattan scored a second and that was pretty much game over.  Canatlan tried to get back in but the Manhattan defence were just too powerful.
FC Manhattan  2-0  Los Pioneros de Canatlan
Well done Sebes.  The Mets party continues.  If any more fans arrive I don't know where we'll put them all!
And Heblem, thanks for taking part.  You have a fine MD in Canatlan, you can be sure I'll continue to visit it.

And so, to the semi finals next time:
Fursan FC v West End United in Great Portland
Wombats v FC Manhattan in Oxford.


Regent is fully developed now, so I thought I'd start winding it up now.  Here are some graphs and data views to summarise the city.

Population:  99,011
Commercial jobs:  57,335
Industrial jobs:  8,746

So a fair number of citizens commute outside of Regent:

11.01  Commute Times
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You can see that commute times have been brought down over the years.  Just as well, as it was starting to kill the city.



11.02  Road Congestion
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Most roads are flowing well.  A few hot spots - but I like that.  The red line at the top is the street that leads to the beach parking lots and I thought that this looked better as a street rather than a road.



11.03  Traffic Volumes
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Car is by far the most popular method of transport, but ferries are also popular, which considering the two inhabited island this is not so much of a surprise.



11.04  Ferry Usage
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And here you can see where the ferry usage is.



11.05  Zone Data
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This gives an idea of how I zoned the city.
1- City Centre
2- The Strip
3- Museum Park
4- Little Amsterdam
5- Heddon Golf Club
6- Mouse Point



11.06  Pollution
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Pollution was restricted to the main industrial areas plus the main roads.  Nothing too serious.



11.07  Education
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Regent was the first city when I really concentrated on making more realistic schools.  Before it was a case of making sure I had good coverage.  But here, I wanted the schools to look good more than be effective!  Having said that, they did a reasonable job I think.



11.08  Average Incomes
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I guess the level of education helps this.  But I don't recall seeing anyone else publish this graph, so I'd be interested to see or hear how Regent compares.



11.09  Residential Wealth
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And this shows that the vast majority of residents in Regent are in the medium wealth bracket.  The islands and South Bank developments helped bring some high wealthers into town.


I hope that these graphs were of interest to you and give you some idea as to how the city actually grew and works.

'til next time........ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 25, 2007, 04:30:00 PM
Those are some impressive stats for a city of almost 100,000, Paul.
Commute times are looking good, traffic is moving right along and the other desirability factors are showing steady improvement just as we all hope they will. I noticed an upswing in car usage, but it's OK as long as it doesn't get out of hand. I'm impressed by the ferry usage, a method of transport still in my future.
I was especially interested in the zone data. I like the way you've scattered jobs throughout the city to keep commute times under control.
And your response made me laugh because I do the same thing! :D I just open my mind and wait for something to fall in! :P

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on November 25, 2007, 06:22:52 PM
Those are great stats! The city of Regent has grown steadily, so they probably need a bigger stadium now as well. No matter what the result of this tournament will be, the New Amsterdam fans would love to come again to West End, and raise hell (in party mode) in Little Amsterdam!

The New Dutch are thrilled to play in the semi-finals against the Sheboygan Wombats, The Blue White Legion was impressed by the outfits of the Biroud fans - causing that "biroud-like" clothing is a big hit in the wellknown department stores in Manhattan. The latest biroud-fashion is also worn by Mets fans that arrived today in Oxford
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Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on November 26, 2007, 01:57:33 AM
Oh no, what a climax of that game. Well VV Biroud may have lost, but they have done so in style. This mayor couldn't be more proud! It seems that this style is now wearing off when you read the post above :D But now I read sebes his post, many things start to make sense now. Just a few hours ago, some Biroud villagers came to me asking for someone or something called "Intonet". They claimed that some Mets fans stopped them on the streets asking them where they could get such an outfit, they advised them to sell their clothing on the 'intonet' and they would become rich. I'm not real happy about that, because it seems that this 'intonet' is starting to become our next holy grail. Already knights who are normally responsible for city defence are talking about organising a quest to search for the intonet and already some beggers claim to have seen the intonet, trying to earn a goldcoin for their story. At this point the intonet is a very big and fluffly dragon-like acrobat in a pink outfit...people thought to have seen the intonet are advised to close windows and doors and contact local authorities. However a fun thing is that some West End city slang has given off on the Birouders, here's a small poem from these days to give you an example:

"Sir knights,take heed hither in hie
This deed on dergh we may not draw
Ye woot yourself as well as I
How lords and leaders of our law
Has given doom that this dote shall die.
aiiiight"


Thanks for posting all the stats, that is a nice conclusion for the end of a town. Like Jmouse I don't make much use of ferries either so this is quite an encouragement that they do work very well. Btw what Maxis genius came up with the idea to make the High Volume color blue for ferries? :)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on November 26, 2007, 05:58:31 AM
After a thrilling match with VV Biroud, the FURSAN FC manager, Amadou Khalilo, personally made sure to congratulate their opponents on a match well-played.

"This was by far our toughest opponents so far this tournament," stated Khalilo. "My boys could learn a thing or two from them. Fantastic squad, hats off to them. It really couldve went either way."

Next up is West End United, and it will be the pre-tournament favorites against the host squad. A tough match, definitely, but here's the bigget announcement:

Upon witnessing Fursan FC's performance, Berber Dawa has announced that he will fly to West End to personally watch the Semi-Final and the Final, whether Fursan make it through or not. In addition, Dawa will also fly in a small QEC delegation to begin officially forming ties with West End based on cultural, diplomatic, and possibly economic terms.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 26, 2007, 07:44:31 AM
Congrats to the teams who won! And nice states there! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on November 28, 2007, 12:47:18 AM
NOoooo!!!!!! Not a penalty shootout, what a way to lose. Congrats to West End, we'll get you next season.

Looking good Paul, except for the Mariners that is  :D

Like the stats, Joan must be in heaven  ;)

Consort looks great, especially the work you have done with the Martensen Stacks  :)

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 28, 2007, 01:33:38 PM
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Joan:  I know you like a stat or two!!  I have to confess that with NAM I choose the setting for improved commute times (so maybe they're not so impressive now!).  As for the ferries.... I guess living on an island in RL means that I have a soft spot for water transport!  Clearly they're not suited to every tile but Regent is perfect having islands plus being on the mouth of a river.
And when you say you "open your head"...... I hope you don't mean literally - ouch!

Sebes:  I have the new stadium ready - but seeing as I've developed the tile now, I guess it will have to wait!  And the Nieuw Amsterdammers are welcome any time in West End.  I have so many Dutch bats in my plug ins that I have a feeling that most of my cities will have a certain Dutch feel about them.  And good luck for the semis.

Capo:  It's a shame Biroud have been knocked out.  Your MD is AWESOME and you've been a great supporter of West End - but that satanic machine has no emotion when it comes to the results.
And a great post from you as always "intonet" made me laugh.  And that poem is so, well, so West End ish!
Glad you liked the stat attack and I agree, using blue on the water wasn't a brilliant idea.  And whilst it's true that Maxis made some strange choices we should still all say THANK YOU MAXIS - they made SC4 and we all love it.  And by making it not quite perfect it has spawned so many GENIUSES who have Batted and Lotted and Modded and given rise to where SC4 is today.

Nedalezz:  Great post and nice words for Biroud in the true spirit of SC4D.  And West End is honoured by the presence of Berber Dawa himself.  I have read your response over at Qumma - thank you.  The West End government will meet with Berber Dawa to finalise the agreement - maybe he can find time in his schedule to sign the declaration!

Bat:  Thanks my friend.  You're approaching the 3500 posts, will you be the first on SC4D to hit that landmark?

Dave:  Penalties are cruel I know.  We'll miss the Mariners but hopefully you'll still pop by and leave your comments.  You're one of the few posters who tells me where I'm making mistakes - but always in a constructive way that helps me improve my city building (so I do appreciate it).



Welcome to the semi finals of the West End International Trophy.  Only four teams remain and excitement levels are rising all over West End, and in particular in Oxford and Great Portland, the two cities that are hosting the semi finals on Day 13 of the tournament.

Semi Final 1 in Great Portland:   Fursan FC v West End United
Fursan have been far from convincing so far in the tournament.  They had one big win and other than that have scraped through but today they were really professional and played a tight game and took their chance.
With just two minutes to go until half time, Fursan scored a well crafted goal.  A fast move down the left wing saw a perfect cross into the box and Fursan's star striker, Tevez, made no mistake.
West End threw everything at Fursan in the second half but it was not enough.
Fursan FC  1-0  West End United
So Fursan go to the final and West End United crash out.  At least they don't have far to travel home!  Congratulations to Nedalezz.  Berber Dawa was seen hugging Amadou Khalilo, he must be very proud of his team.


Semi Final 2 in Oxford:   Wombats v FC Manhattan
Manhattan played their group games in this stadium and looked right at home.  They took control from the start and went 1-0 up inside the first ten minutes.  Wombats fought back hard and looked as though they could get back into the game but at half time they were still a goal down.
In the second half Wombats changed formation and threw an additional striker up front.  Things just wouldn't fall for them and as the clock ticked on they became desperate and started punting long hopeful balls up towards their tall strikers.  But Manhattan coped well and hit on the break with just four minutes remaining to make it 2-0.  Mets fans went wild and at the final whistle went crazy.
Wombats  0-2  FC Manhattan.
The Mets make the final, well done sebes.  Tkirch, your team did so well and came close.  I am sure they will get a warm reception when they arrive home in Badger Bay.

So the final will be on Friday in Great Portland between Nedalezz' Fursan FC and Sebes' FC Manhattan.  Good luck guys - I plan to post the final result on Friday 30th November.


OK, Some pics.  I tried to decide how to finish off Regent.  I have to say I have spent more time on this one city square than any other, ever.  And I've really enjoyed it.  I also think I've learned a lot from it, mainly form your comments and suggestions and also from looking and learning from other MDs here on SC4D.  And I've got so much more to learn and so much I want to do next time.

Anyways, I'm going to finish with my personal top ten places in Regent.  I'll start with an overview that has a yellow circle for each location in the top ten.  Today I'll show numbers 10 to 6, with the top ten to some with the final of the tournament and my last day here in OSITM.

Regent Overview:
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Number 10  The Mirage
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Well, this is what Regent was all about initially - The Strip.  Home to casinos, hotels, beaches and tourist attractions.  The Mirage is the most luxurious hotel on The Strip and is a Regent icon - it HAD to be in the top ten.


Number 9  St Dagmars Church
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Here on Regent Island is this peaceful church.  I think it's a lovely BAT and I also like the setting, near to the coast and surrounded by trees.  Just a shame about those shadows!


Number 8  Royals Stadium, Royal Park and St Michaels
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Appropriate really considering the football tournament.  It's a pretty standard stadium but I like the setting, next to the park and church with a nice sea wall nearby.


Number 7  Heddon Country Club
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This was also from one of the early updates in Regent.  I'm not a golfer myself, but this place does appeal.


Number 6  Mouse Point, Regent Island
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Back to Regent Island for this scenic view point.  You can stand there and watch the ferries sail past and stare across at the South Bank.

Well, the next update is the last for Regent (top five), last for the football tournament (the final) and the last in OSTIM.

So, 'til next time...... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on November 28, 2007, 02:21:47 PM
And once again the crowd went bezerk....

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The Legion and the NNVB-officials are very proud to have made it to here, and play the finals in the NRG Stadium. Of course Fursan FC has the advantage of having played all games until now in that Stadium, the large and overwhelming Legion will probably outyell the Nedalezz suporters in that large stadium. One thing is for sure: normal life in Nieuw Amsterdam, and probably most of the Dutch America's will come to stand still Friday, when everybody will be watching this game on national television.

So far today for the competition: back to Regent. The 5 pics you show are a good choice. I love St Dagmars church. And, as these are the numbers 10-6 only, I can only imagine how nice the numbers 5-1 will be. In fact, I think to know 3 of the pics that you will be showing there - and wonder of your number 1 shot from Regent will be mine too.  :satisfied: 




Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 28, 2007, 04:38:50 PM
You chose the highlights well, Paul. All are lovely and bring back pleasant memories of days gone by in Regent.
And I know what you mean about spending a lot of time developing a single quad. I get kind of attached to my cities in a way as I watch each one develop a personality of its own. Maybe that's one of the reasons we work so hard at the job of having fun! :D

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 29, 2007, 05:22:11 AM
Yes, great places there! Congrats to the teams which has won!

Looking forward to number 5 to 1!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on November 30, 2007, 05:46:04 AM
The Blue White Legion is awaiting the start signal of the game between Fursan FC and FC Manhattan in the NRG Stadium in Greater Portland - with full convidence in their team:

GO METS!!

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Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Silur on November 30, 2007, 06:24:15 AM
Holland for ever - this is my favorite team !
No World Cup - but GREAT FOOTBALL PLAY !!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 30, 2007, 01:01:01 PM
REPLIES:

Sebes:  Your fans have been great - you deserve to be in the final and that's a great stadium shot - good luck!  I wonder which 3 pictures you had in mind - and I hope you like the choice!

Joan: Thanks, your comments hit the nail on the head.  You're always a welcome visitor to West End.

Bat:  Likewise, thanks my friend and good to see you here.

Silur: Welcome to West End - Feel free to visit again.



Welcome to day 16, the final day of the tournament.

There is a really buzzing atmosphere across West End today and the fans have been making plenty of noise and having fun.  The Mets fans have even taken to decorating the staues around Great Portland:
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As always one or two have too much to drink and cause trouble.  Luckily the West End police force were quick to identify trouble makers and take them away:
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And now over to Sir Bert Microchip for the final of the West End International Trophy
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Welcome to the NRG Stadium here in Great Portland.  The stadium is full with 45,000 fans here today.  The fans of FC Manhattan outnumber those from Fursan FC, but both sets are equally passionate for their team.  There are also many fans from across West End and the other regions who took part in the tournament.

Berber Dawa is in the Royal Box and is the guest of the West End government today.

Here is a shot of the stadium and the surrounding area.  Large screens have been erected in the plaza and in the riverside park, so that fans without a ticket can join in the party atmosphere.
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The teams walk out to a deafening cheer.  It's clear that the FC Manhattan fans are going to make loads of noise:
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The national anthems are played and both teams look tense.

The game starts and both teams are going for it.  The game has a real pace about it as chances are created for both sides.  The first great chance falls to Manhattan in the 12th minute but the Fursan keeper makes a finger tip save and pushes the ball onto the post and out for a corner.
On 25 minutes Fursan carve the Manhattan defence apart and their midfielder Ronaldo is going one on one with the keeper.  The keeper stands tall and Ronaldo shoots left, the keeper gets a touch but the ball bobbles into the net - 1-0 to Fursan.  The Fursan fans go wild.
The rest of the half goes by without any other clear cut chances.
At half time it's still close and all to play for.
Fursan get the second half underway and are straight away on the attack.  They look in control now but Manhattan dig deep and weather the storm.  Despite a few good chances, there is still only one goal in it.  Now Manhattan start to pass the ball around and are making some progress.  The young striker, Van Martins gets the ball on the edge of the box and is brought down - the referee points to the spot -penalty to Manhattan.  Van Martins steps up and shoots but the keeper guesses right and saves it.
And just two minutes later Fursan punish the Mets by scoring from a corner.  2-0 Fursan.
With just 15 minutes remaining the Mets make two substitutions and throw on an additional striker.
It looks as though it could pay off as Manhattan are looking the most dangerous now.  They create chance after chance and put the ball in the net but it is ruled out for offside.
And then with just 4 minutes remaining Fursan hit them on the break and score a third goal.  3-0 Fursan and surely that is it now. 
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Manhattan look broken now and have nothing left to give, the referee blows the final whistle and that's it:
Fursan FC  3-0  FC Manhattan

It was a great game and the scoreline is harsh on the Mets.  They hit the post, had a penalty saved and a goal disallowed.  But Amadou Khalilo can be proud of his team.  Up in the royal box Berber Dawa is cheering and clapping and smiling from ear to ear.  This result has put Qumman sport on the SimNations map!

The trophy is awarded by Sir Bert Microchip to Fursan FC
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And Nedalezz - with your permission I will also award the trophy within your MD.

So commiserations to sebes.  Your team played bravely and your fans were a joy to have in West End.  There were more fans from Nieuw Amsterdam than any other region.

And congratulations to Nedalezz and Fursan FC - your team took their chances when they needed to and are worthy champions.

Thank you to all who took part - I have really enjoyed putting on the tournament, I hope you have had some enjoyment from it too.

And now, to say goodbye to the tournament, the city of Regent and Of Special Interest of the Month, here are my top 5 pictures from Regent.

Number 5   South Bank Waterfront
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This part of South Bank grew to be quite a commercial hub of activity.  I just like the mix of building and the two matching towers.


Number 4   Anthony Haines High School
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One of the early pictures from Regent and probably the best school complex I have produced. 


Number 3   Museum Park
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The cultural centre of Regent, and arguably West End.  I just like the mix of building here.


Number 2   Martensen Stacks
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Thanks to capo's coastline tutorial I tried something a bit different with this.  This is my favourite "natural" piece I've put together.


Number 1   Little Amsterdam
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Little Amsterdam seemed so popular with you, that it had to be number 1.  This is my first published mosaic (thank you Joan for your tutorial).  You can see Little Amsterdam station at the top, down through Grolschenstraat, Lindengracht, Lake Capo, Capogracht and Sebes Park.  And Capo, you may even notice the bus mod I installed - London Red Double Deckers (and you still get the Maxis defaults as well).  I think this picture sums up Little Amsterdam living quite well.


I hope you all enjoyed Regent - I have!  I need to do some more development now on another tile before the next update, so


'til next time..... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on November 30, 2007, 01:24:30 PM
The final game report is really fantastic! :thumbsup:
I love all pictures too, especially first two with decorated statues and cheerful De Mets fan  :D, Fursan fans with Ghana symbols are also my favourite :thumbsup:

And of course, congratulations for nedalezz and Fursan and also for De Mets and sebes  &apls
Shosaloza players still meditate, our girls still train soccer - who knows what will happen next time? ;)

Great tournament, great atmosphere and great West End promotion during all this special month! &apls

Your Top five is really very good, and well deserved first place for Little Amsterdam. West End not only looks good, it is also alive and full of very good ideas &apls

I will visit you with pleasure in future too :)


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on November 30, 2007, 01:43:17 PM
Congratulations Fursan FC and Nedalezz. It was an exiting game, and a spectacle to watch. Unfortunately de Mets had some tough luck against them....

As "Mighty Man" Mark van Martin missed the penalty it was clear that the game would not be ours..
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Also the fans back home in Nieuw Amsterdam realized that:
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And of course, some elements in town started making troubles, as here on Roosevelt Dreef.
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So Paul, if you ever organize a football event again, be sure to invite De Mets again!


Regarding your best shots for Regent: I had three different ones in mind : Grolschenstraat (south), The railjunction (near Central Station) and Central Market.  But your selection is great too, so we can just conclude that you presented us the best of all in this month.

And - thanks for getting the chance to be part of that all as well.

If I ever get my act together and start an MD about my region Nieuw Amsterdam I will dedicate an update to this tournament.

Thanks  :thumbsup:

Sebes.



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on November 30, 2007, 03:37:15 PM
Qumma has given an extended weekend in celebration of its history victory in West End, and also sends its congratulations to "de Mets" for a great run and heck of a game. Berber Dawa has promised ample rewards for his victorious boys, and a glorious parade upon their return home to Fursan.

I loved the school compound, very well done. The way you molded your MD, with a football updates and then pictures and information was a work of art. It really was a great month of entertainment. I dont remember ever checking a single MD so many times a day in anticipation of the next update!

That Ghana picture was incredddiiiblllle! I agree with Ennedi, it really was my favorite, and it made my day!

Ofcourse you have permission to present the trophy on my MD. Congratulations on a fantastic tournament!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 30, 2007, 04:32:14 PM
Congratulations to the Fursan team for a fine performance. Berber Dawa and nedalezz have every right to enjoy a special celebration with them. :thumbsup: (Now aren't you glad I nagged you a little bit?! ;)) It looks like every team won at least one game (correct me if I'm wrong), and if so, that's great!
Once again you chose your photos well, Paul. Every one is a winner and the mosaic looks terrific. :thumbsup: I'll miss Regent, but I'm sure there's a lot more to come.
And even though all the November OSITMs will turn back into pumpkins at midnight, Cinderella has already proved it's just the beginning of something better! :)

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on November 30, 2007, 06:25:59 PM
Congratulations to the Fursan team! Such a great accomplishment from a small nations' team.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on December 01, 2007, 12:07:28 AM
Quote from: paroch on November 28, 2007, 01:33:38 PM
Dave:  ......  You're one of the few posters who tells me where I'm making mistakes - but always in a constructive way that helps me improve my city building (so I do appreciate it).

With the demise of the Mariners, I'll be scrutinising especially hard now  %BUd% (only kidding)

Last couple of updates have been great. The school complex and cultural centre are nicely compiled and the
mosaic of Little Amsterdam, &apls &apls

And congrats to Fursan  :thumbsup:

Cheers

Dave



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on December 01, 2007, 03:20:08 AM
Wonderful new pictures there! And great top 5 places there! Also fantastic work on the high school area and Little Amsterdam!


Congrats to Fursan FC!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tkirch on December 01, 2007, 02:54:00 PM
Been gone awhile on official unofficial business.  WOW I made it further than expected.

CONGRATULATIONS TO FURSAN FC


Love the new pictures.  I particularly love Anthony HAines High School.  That is the way a school should look.
And I also am very fond of the Museum Park.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on December 05, 2007, 03:03:12 PM
REPLIES:

Ennedi:  Thanks for your kind words.  I think of you as one of the MD Gurus, so to get such encouragement from you is much appreciated.

Sebes:  It broke my heart to write that report :-[. You've been such a great supporter of the tournament that it was a harsh result.  And your choice of top 3 was also good!  I don't plan another tournament just yet - although if West End survives I guess there will be a follow up.
I look forward to your MD - I have a feeling it would be a special one.

Nedalezz:  Well, congratulations on the win  &apls - you were also a fantastic supporter of the tournament, so I'm glad it went to one of you!  And thanks for the kind words.  I have to admit I did enjoy the time in OSITM.  I know I also owe you naming rights of some future sites in West End - I will PM you on that subject.

Joan:  Chief Recruiterteermeister!  It wouldn't have happened without you - thanks.  The only teams not to win a game were Regent Royal, Wardouroda (my teams!) and Devotion All Stars (the one I made up for the SC4D team!)  I'm missing Regent too - I put a lot into it!  And good comment re pumpkins!

BoKriF:  Thanks for your visit - and thanks for your PM re establishing an embassy.

Tooheys (Dave):  LOL, scruitinise away my friend.  Whenever  I build a sea wall that is not quite level I can hear you in my head saying "well, that's not right is it!"

Bat:  Thanks - and congrats on your OSITM award!

Tkirch:  Cheers and thanks for the comments re the school - maybe I should enter it in the picture comp and see what happens!



UPDATE 12.


Well, I have to say that providing very regular updates during the football tournament was quite tiring.  So I've had a little rest.  I spent so much time on the Regent tile that I have struggled to concentrate on one tile since.  I keep flitting between Oxford (the capital), finishing the gaps in Great Portland and starting a new large farming/rural tile called Cavendish.

I'll need to decide exactly where to concentrate, but in the meantime, here are a few pics from Oxford:

12.01  Tennis Centre
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And closer in:
12.02  Tennis Centre
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The idea was for a kind of mini-Wimbledon!  And don't worry, I'm not about to run a tennis tournament!  But hey, who knows what might happen in future!

12.03  Consulate of Qumma
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Following Fursan FC's stunning win in the West End International Tournament and ongoing political discussions, Qumma have become the first nation to open a consulate in West End, here in Oxford.  This is a replica of the Presidential Manor in Fursan and was designed and built by Qumma's finest craftsmen.  I'm sure you'll hear more about the consulate in future updates.

12.04  Proposed Diplomatic Zone
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The West End government is keen to establish political and diplomatic ties with other MDs/CJs/Regions.  It has set aside an area of the city to house the various embassies and consulates that it hopes to be built. 
West End formally invites Mayors/Governments to submit their proposal for an embassy or consulate here in West End.
Please just send a PM letting me know which building/Lot you'd like to represent your Region and I'll do my best to build it here.  I think this will make this corner of West End very multi-cultural and a possible interesting mix of building styles!

So, I look forward to receiving your embassy comments!


'til next time..... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on December 05, 2007, 04:26:56 PM
Hey Paul, I was wondering which of the recent OSITM authors would come out of hiding first! ::) Guess everyone's a little tired out. /wrrd%& **Snores loudly**
I really like the idea of a diplomatic sector and have an idea I'll PM tomorrow. Qumma's Embassy looks great in its place of honor next to the garden.
Meanwhile you continue to do a great job. I expect December will be bit a bit sparse what with college finals, mid-terms, Christmas and other seasonal celebrations afoot, but I'm sure things will pick up after everyone sleeps off New Years Eve!

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on December 06, 2007, 08:11:13 AM
Quote from: paroch on December 05, 2007, 03:03:12 PM
(...)
Bat:  (...) and congrats on your OSITM award!
(...)
Thank you! ;)


Fantastic pictures of the tennis stadium and consulate of Qumma! Wonderful work on that! :thumbsup:

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on December 07, 2007, 01:46:27 PM
Im loving the Qumman Embassy! Great choice for a building; the Qumman Ambassador will feel right at home. Its an honour to beginning diplomatic relations with West End.

As for the update, as usual, great pics, great info, and great organization. The diplomatic quarter is fantastic idea, I totally agree with Joan.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tkirch on December 07, 2007, 07:54:37 PM
Another greta update.

The Tennis Complex ....  Do I sense the West End Tennis Open around the corner.  Bjorn Borg vs Ivan Lendl and Jimmy Conners vs Jim McEnroe.  And Ann Kournakova in the stands next to me of course!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on December 08, 2007, 02:29:55 AM
Awesome update my friend! I love the big tennispark, even though you say there will be no tennis tournament...the top tennis player from Biroud 'Roger Featherer' is practicing very hard. The fame that the VV Biroud players received when they came home seems to be a big stimuli for other athletes.

The consulates are an awesome idea and I really like how the proposed diplomatic zone looks, the building even looks like an embassy! I'd be honored to have a Biroud embassy in your city, I will get to work asap for an apropriate embassy building.

As always, excellent and creative work. It's not just the pictures that makes this MD an interesting one, it's the things that happen in your city that makes this MD so great. Keep it up my friend!

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on December 09, 2007, 01:58:59 AM
Nicely done Paul, love the tennis complex, that's one magnificent centre court  :thumbsup:

QuoteTooheys (Dave):  LOL, scruitinise away my friend.  Whenever  I build a sea wall that is not quite level I can hear you in my head saying "well, that's not right is it!"

Well as an Aussie, I would probably say "thats not bloody right" but close enough  :D

One suggestion if I may, the elevated highway should be pretty well flat. There will always be climbs and falls but they will generally be gradual and there shouldn't be any little "humps", these would normally be ironed out.

Looking forward to seeing the diplomatic zone.

Cheers

Dave

PS:12.03 seems to be missing.

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on December 09, 2007, 10:44:07 AM
OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT FROM QUMMA

The QEC would like to congratule West End for their successful entry into the Qumman market, and would like to specifically thank Ulrtan Fuels and Parochian Steel, with the latter becoming only the 2nd factory to open for business in Qumma. Furthermore, we believe that both companies will go a long way in helping Qumma economically grow, and their success will encourage other foreign investors to do business in Qumma.

The QEC views the country of West End and its people as kind, friendly, and helpful souls and have such exempted West End manufactured products from any import tax in Qumma. This will encourage Qumman traders and importers to consider West End when it comes to buying their goods, as they can now get it into the country cheaper than any other. We also have drawn up a buyers guide for all Qumman traders, introducing them to all big and reputable West End companies.

We hope this signifies only the beginning of an everlasting relationship that will be very beneficial for both countries. Thank you again, our brothers and sisters of West End.

If there is interest in viewing and reading information about the new companies that opened up in Qumma, please visit the Qumman MD.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on December 14, 2007, 02:45:45 PM
REPLIES:

Joan:  You're right, OSITM was tiring /wrrd%&.  Plus with the run up to Christmas I've had a lot of after work stuff, so less time for SC4.  Thanks for your comments and your PM.  I will come back to Oxford and the diplomatic zone - but I've been working on something else first.

Bat:  Thanks as always.

Nedalezz:  Thanks for your support and glad you like the embassy building (it had to be a Mbear one of course).

Tkirch:  Thanks and no, I can assure you there is no tennis tournie around the corner ;).  I may weave in a storyline that features it though.  Also, a BIG thank you for the link to the Region Census.

Capo: Very kind words there - I appreciate your comments.  And Roger Featherer made me laugh :D.  Maybe I can incorporate him in the story when I come back to Oxford.

Dave/Tooheys:  Yeah that centre court is an amazing building.  10/10 to the creator.  And thanks for the comment re the highway.  I now have the slope mod installed which will help.  Because I'm playing on a pre-formatted map, the terrain is quite bumpy and I often forget to flatten it before certain projects.  I'm hoping for your input on the pics in this update, 'cos boy, do I need your advice for the TPW.  And 12.03 seems to be there now - I know Image Shack does some weird things sometimes.

Nedalezz:  I love the way you build your story and how you phrase your updates and comments - thanks, I am enjoying the Qumma/West End link up.


UPDATE 13:

I thought it was time for a region overview.  Population figures are now:
Residential:  464,478
Commercial:  226,895
Industrial:  68,186

And thanks to Tkirch for pointing me in the direction of Region Census, here are some region shots:


13.01  Region overview:
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You can see that development has focussed on the east coast and moves inland.  That west still looks pretty wild though!


13.02  BIG region view:
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Click on the thumbnail for the full size pic.


Interest in the diplomatic zone has been limited, so I have focussed on Cavendish, a large tile that looked suitable for a rural/farming community.


13.03  Cavendish Region View:
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And this is the tile I've been working on recently.  It has a nice valley between the two sets of hills.  This land is very fertile, so is ideal for farming.  It's also home to West End's first TPW river.  The River Caven.
The odd empty square in the top right is the Cavendish Wind Farm - see below.
I have planted more trees since this pic.


13.04  Cavendish Traffic View:
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You can see that two motorways skirt the edges of Cavendish.  The one to the right goes into Oxford.  The one on the left goes south into Great Portland and north into the undeveloped area.
The green "A" road is the main route through Cavendish.  I've not numbered the roads yet.
There's only one station in the whole tile so far.  This part of the railway is not the mainline, so traffic is reasonably light.


13.05  Cavendish Wind Farm 1
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The Wind Farm is arguably Cavendish's most striking feature.
Here you can see that a large area of forest was cleared on top of the hill to make room for this wind farm.  The people of West End are aware of the environment and agreed to erect these large turbines, evn if they're not the prettiest things.
You can see the generating plant and the connection down to the main grid.


13.06  Cavendish Wind Farm 2
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Here we zoon in a bit.  There's a fence around the farm to keep trespassers out (thanks for the link Joan).
In game I just love the way the windmills move, the shadows work beautifully too.


13.07  Cavendish Wind Farm 3
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And here we zoom again.  You can see the gate house and the generating plant - and those great windmill shadows!


13.08  Riverside Hamlet
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So here's my first attempt with the Transparent Ploppable Water.  I know it's not a brilliant effort, so any input, advice or feedback from you guys (and definitely from you Dave) would really be welcomed.  Maybe there's a tutorial you can recommend?
Anyways, here are a few houses that people who have always dreamt of a countryside retreat would like to have.


13.09  Transition
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From TPW river, to canal.  I struggled to decide how to do this - Hiding the connection under a bridge was the best I could think of.  There must be something a bit more subtle - so any ideas are welcomed.


13.10  Green Bridge
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Here is one of the bridges over the River Caven.  I followed the "land bridge tutrorial" from on this site and it was very useful.  I'm pleased with the result apart for the fact that I could not plop water under all of the bridge. 


13.10  Covered Bridge
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I really like the Dutch Barn Farm.  And the bridge is quite interesting.  But again, I couldn't get the TPW under all of the bridge - help!!!


13.11  Stone Bridge
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Now, I really like this bridge.  The slope mod works a treat in making it look good - BUT that pesky TPW again.  I really need some advice here guys and girls!


13.12  Riverside Farms
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A riverside farming scene.  I like the greenhouses there.


I hope you've enjoyed this first visit to Cavendish.  Next time I'll show you more of the town itself and the surrounding countryside.

'til next time........ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on December 14, 2007, 04:18:14 PM
Nice update and great pictures Paul. The greenhouse in 13.10 caught my eye, but the ones in 13.12 are awsome indeed. I love greenhouse, especially in the evening and night: they set the area in such a great glow !
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on December 14, 2007, 10:31:11 PM
Thanks so much for the full-size region photo - you know how much I like to see "The Big Picture!" ;). I hope you'll update it as WEST END grows.
I really like the winding road in 13.05, and as a fan of shadows, I like 13.07 as well.
The neighborhoods look good, and I think you've done a very good job on the TPW, especially for your first time out.
I've been experimenting with it myself, and here's a link to some grass (and lots of other good flora) that I found helpful:  Linkie (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=921)
13.09 is way out of my realm %confuso, but I imagine Dave will offer some suggestions. The stone bridge in 13.11 looks really good and adds a lot to the rural atmosphere.
And if you don't mind, I have a suggestion after looking at 13.12: Consider backing off on those farm fields by the water by a grid or two and replace them with the trees, rocks -- and grass if you decide to use it! I live in a rural area and I've seen some of the huge machinery used in the fields. In RL it would be impossible to tend fields that close to the water. Besides, your riverbank is a jewel and deserves a special setting all it's own! :thumbsup:

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on December 15, 2007, 12:35:13 AM
Hehehe, welcome to the trials and tribulations of TPW  ;)

First of all, a great update, and despite the obvious problems under the bridges, you have done a fine job with the TPW.  :thumbsup:

There are a several different options with the TPW, but only one offers the 1/2 size lot. This does help a bit when in tight quarters, although I have found through a bit of experimentation, the longer the bridge span, the better the result.

13.10, well keep experimenting, sooner or later you will get the TPW to plop how you want it. You could always place a boulder or two there.

13.10 (No.2  :) ) and 13.11. With such narrow spans, from my experience, it will be difficult to get a reasonable result. The covered bridge and narrow spans just don't seem to work well with the TPW. Having said that, you can sometimes fluke a combination that looks great (although you might have noticed, the view angle also has a big impact).

Paul,  I'm afraid I'm not much of a teacher, regardless, feel free to PM me anytime. But my best advice, find a free tile, create a TPW river/creek/steam and experiment.

I will be watching with interest to see what you can come up with.

Cheers

Dave





Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: suplado! on December 15, 2007, 01:03:13 AM
wow -- cool overview and the region is really great the mountains the rivers, and the settlement fits well together...also nice idea on the transition!! i think ill try it too..hehe!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on December 15, 2007, 02:18:15 AM
These are some great new pictures there, paroch! And wonderful river there, too! Also a fantastic overview of that city.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on December 15, 2007, 11:08:43 AM
Wow, huge update! Fantastic one at that, too!

The Region Census looks great! I downloaded it but never figured out how to work it :(

I am loving Cavendish! Its so calm, quiet, very rural small town America feel. I like the houses near the ploppable water, which IMO you did a fantastic job on. And the transition between the canals and the ploppable water doesnt look bad at all!

My favorite pics of the update have to be the two 13.10s with the bridges. That is just beautiful.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on December 15, 2007, 12:47:29 PM
Paul i picked a wonderful time to poke my head back in here... Well wow lets see here to start im gonna say about 13.9 and that is the most creative way of hidding the transition that i can think of wow!!!

OK on to 13.10 green bridge: What ive found useful is what dave said have a larger span works the best and in that small of span i would use the bigger size TPW and plop till its right... If i still had a gap i would cover it up with some rocks and what not... thats the best i can offer on this one

13.10 Covered bridge:  OK i noticed the gap in there and the only way to avoid a gap like that when trying to place tpw is to have a flat land under the bridge... Of course that means before you place the bridge and while you have the river flowing with game water is to make sure its flat there...

13.10 stone bridge: Well that is very good and the only fault is the gap in tpw and that can be again covered with rocks and water flora that would work and for water flora check here [linkie] (http://gizmo.lunarpages.com/index.php?action=filedownload&sa=miscmods) and you have to be registerd at gizmo's site to get the mod and its waterflora mod you want...

OK Paul in other news the update in a whole is wonderful and really enjoyed it!!! if you havent seen what i do with PW and TPW check out my MD and that will give some and i do say some helpful pointers by pics... See you soon pat
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on December 16, 2007, 12:37:13 PM
REPLIES:

Thanks to all for comments and suggestions - it's what makes this such a great forum.  You guys are certainly helping me build better cities with your support, tutorials and ideas - THANKS. &apls

Sebes:  Yeah, those greenhouses reminded me of flying into Schipol at night.  Loads of HUGE greenhouses lit up for miles (or is that kilometres?)

Joan:  No worries - I'm glad you liked the region shot.  And big thanks for the linkie, I've downloaded them and played about already.  Thanks for your comments re the winding road and shadows - I knew you'd like the shadows!
And I've re-worked 13.12 (see below)

Tooheys:  Thanks for the comments and the thumbs up.  Not sure how I managed two 13.10's ()what()
But I have re-worked the covered bridge - to much better results, so thanks for the tips. :P

Suplado:  Welcome to West End - your first comment I believe.  Thanks for your comment and I have enjoyed your pictures in the competition - I must come over to your MD.

Bat:  Thanks my friend - Glad you liked the overview.

Nedalezz:  The Region Census confused me a little to start with because it kept delivering an error message - but ignore this and then select "file" and "open region" then locate it from your regions folder and away you go.  If you need any help just PM me and I'll try to help.  Glad you like Cavendish.  Small town UK/Europe is what I'm aiming for, but I'll take the compliment anyway :thumbsup:  Bridges re-worked below, hopefully you'll like these too.

Pat:  Good to see you again.  It's funny, because I thought the transition in 13.9 was "cheating" but a few of you liked it, so I'll use it again ::)  Thanks for the linkie, I've now downloaded them.  And yes, I will study your pics in more detail - after all, you are the daddy of water and waterfalls!!

OK, after all your comments I re-worked the bridges and some of the riverbank - here they are:

13.13  New Bridge
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This was the 13.10 Covered Bridge.  OK, so it's not so "small town" but I think the effect is loads better.


13.14  Stone Bridge
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Now, in re-working 13.11, the span got bigger.  I kinda preffered just the one arch, but think that the water looks better here.  And as Dave said, the angle of the pic is all important - here it's swung through 180 degrees.


13.15  Riverside Farms
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This is the 13.12 picture re-worked.  I've taken Joan's suggestion and pushed the fields back a bit.  I think to good effect, so thanks Joan.  I play the game in constant daylight, so must turn night "on" to see if those greenhouses light up.


Well, not really an update, more a re-date!!!

'til next time.....
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on December 16, 2007, 03:42:46 PM
Oh yes, yes, yes Paul! :thumbsup: These are exciting improvements you've made. The riverbanks look so much better, and you were able to keep that lovely stone bridge. Also I like the variety of elements you've used next to the water.
Actually, I like the two arches in the stone bridge, too, but I wonder where you got the flora in the near-bottom center in the water. It looks like some I've discovered in LE, but what I found is a prop and not available to plop. I like it, though.
Anyway, you're way ahead of me on TPW and bridges, but I'm thinking of trying a small pool "just to get my feet wet." ::)
No awful pun intended, of course! :P

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on December 17, 2007, 05:53:07 AM
Nice pictures of that river which is looking great! Also wonderful work! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: suplado! on December 17, 2007, 08:07:01 PM
cool pics...really like the small town and the farm fields looks great!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on December 20, 2007, 06:07:49 PM
Nice update. The Qumman Consulate looks nice.

I've been busy, but as soon as I can play SC4 I will make the West End Embassy for the appointed ambassador.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on December 20, 2007, 08:34:05 PM
Paul I love how well you took everyones thoughts and Idea's and then you improved upon your last update... Keep Up the hard work and btw ima mer apprentice I would call Rayden or David True Fathers of Water works...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: jmyers2043 on December 21, 2007, 03:42:13 AM
@ Paroch

That little industrial in your picture 13/07 does look like a power plant. Great idea.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on December 21, 2007, 04:26:19 AM
The new bridges look great! Your work with the ploppable water (I believe that is what the river is made of) is fantastic, and the way you place the stones, rocks, and trees around it is so life-like. Very nice stuff!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on December 21, 2007, 02:33:51 PM
REPLIES

Thanks for all who viewed and left comments:

Joan:  Hey, you liked it then?!  It's nice when your efforts are appreciated - so thank you :)  As for the water flora - it was the linkie provided by Pat just above (BIG thanks to Pat).  It's over at Gizmo's site, you will need to register first and it's the Water Mod under "miscellaneous mods".  Here's the linkie again http://gizmo.lunarpages.com/index.php?action=filedownload&sa=miscmods

Bat:  thanks as always. :thumbsup:

Suplado!:  Thanks for your visit.  I finally got round to visiting your MD - WOW :o

BoKriF:  Thanks for your visit and comment.  I will very soon build the Liberty Islands embassy - I'll PM you a preview!

Pat:  Hey, nice comment, cheers.  For me, part of the appeal of an MD is that people are good enough to make suggestions and more often than not they are great suggestions that help me improve what I do.  You're a modest guy.  Not checked out Rayden's work but will do so.

Jmyers:  I have a lot of your BATs and I love them, so a comment from you is MUCH appreciated.
I must confess that the "power plant" grew by chance - but the minute I saw it I made it historical!

Nedalezz:  Thanks for the great comment.  I must confess that the Ploppable Water is fun to work with and I'm pretty pleased with the results and glad you are too.


UPDATE 14  - More from Cavendish

14.01  Cavendish Overview
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Cavendish is a large tile rural farming community that sits in a valley.  There are high hills on either side and the River Caven flows through the farmland.  The whole of Cavendish borough is home to 9,848 people, the majority of whom live in the town of Cavendish itself.  There is one other small town in the borough, Lane, plus a few villages.  There are 5,208 commercial jobs (again mainly in Cavendish itself) and 5,390 industrial jobs, the bulk of which are spread across the numerous farms.
There is a small industrial estate down in the South East of the borough next to the Motorway and the border with Oxford.

The South West corner of the borough has yet to be developed and is likely to be taken up with more farms.


14.02  Farms and Power Lines
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Here the farms are bisected by the power lines that come down from the wind farm up in the hills.  You'll see that flowers are grown extensively in Cavendish.  They are high quality and are exported daily all over the SimWorld.


14.03  Farms, River and Small Settlement
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This is the same bridge as in 13.13 above.  The small village is a sought after location, with its own school.


14.04  Stone Bridge
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This bridge seemed popular, so here it is, zoomed out with a view of the surrounding fields.  That vineyard is one of the main wine producers in West End.  The climate isn't really good enough for top quality wine, but they produce a half decent sparkling wine - our version of champagne.


14.05  Orchards
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Plenty of fruit grown in the valley as well.  Pears and apples are the two main crops.


14.06  More Farms
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This shot is from the very south of the borough.  You may recall I was having seriously weird shadow issues in some of my Regent pics - they seem ok here.


14.07  Cavendish centre
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I must confess that this town was not planned particularly well regarding zoning - everything is a bit mixed in together.  But I kinda like the result.


14.08  Station Square
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The rail line through  Cavendish is not on the West End main line, so trains are not that frequent.  But plenty of freight trains take the produce out of town.  Some townsfolk travel by train to Oxford to the main financial district.


14.09  Cavendish School
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Here's the main school in Cavendish.  First time I've used this park set - what do you think?
I would really love an athletics track on grass, a bit like the football pitch, but an athletics track painted on to grass.  They are so common in English schools that I'd use it in most of my schools.  Does any one know of one or do you think it's something that could be easily produced??  Could I produce one - never done a bat and only basic lots before??  I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.


14.10  Smart Neighbourhood
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Here's a nice leafy neighbourhood just north of the station.  These houses crop up a lot in West End.  I think this pic is "typically West End".


14.11  Lavender Row
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Here the main A road enters the centre of Cavendish.  A side road runs either side, so this gives easy access to the main road but also means traffic on the residential roads is lighter.  As a result some serious "executive homes" have been built.  Either side of the main road is row after row of lavender.  I made this lot using capo's tutorial - simple but it achieved the look I wanted.


14.12  Cavendish Tykes
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Here's the home of Cavendish's own football team - the Tykes.  Small town, small team, small stadium!  The trouble is that many residents are fans of either West End United in nearby Oxford, or FC Portland in nearby Great Portland.


14.13  Snake Pass
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There are two routes from Cavendish east into Oxford.  One is on the fast, modern, safe motorway.  The other is this road, snake pass.  It winds its way up and over the hills.  The road is old, slow and dangerous, but the views are great and it is still very popular.


14.14  Helvetia Manufacturing
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I try to play SC4 with as little "cheating" as possible.  But sometimes money gets tight.  I don't use a money tree, or other such lot.  I use the Helvetia Manufacturing plant.  It seems to generate about §1,500 taxes and provides some high tech jobs.  (I also sometimes use the oil rig).
Helvetia are one of the largest employers in all of West End, and here in their Cavendish plant they make components for the automotive industry.


14.15  Industrial Estate
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Straddling the motorway on the Oxford border is this industrial estate.  You can see that there are some waste to energy plants plus various small scale industrials.


14.16  Lane by day
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Here is the "second" town in the borough, Lane.  It's a self contained small town/large village with its own school, church, police station, fire station and a few shops.  You can see it nestles between the main A road and the river.  I think it's a cute kind of place.


14.17  Lane by night
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And when I was over at Gizmo's site I couldn't resist downloading this mod.  I know there's nothing fancy or flash about this picture, but I think it sums up just what a sleepy place Lane really is!



NEXT TIME.......  I've had limited interest in the Diplomatic zone so far.  Evergem/Biroud and Liberty Islands are due to open embassies in Oxford and Wildcat Junction is drawing up plans for a Trade Office.  So, please feel free to send me your suggestions or ideas for your region to be represented in West End.

I've also got that south west corner of Cavendish to fill in, so maybe we'll be back here for one last peek!


'til next time........ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on December 21, 2007, 04:29:10 PM
Absolutely love the city overview, Paul. A few small towns surrounded by farm land looks so realistic. You'd think it would be an easy setting to create, but so far it's been beyond my abilities. I always end up packin' 'em and stackin' 'em!
The farms look great, and you've done a good job on the riverbank.
Also, I love the closeup of the little town (14.07), and the more upscale neighborhoods look very nice as well.
As for the grass track, you might find what you want in the LE. I'm certainly no expert, but I do have a few tips I can send in a PM when time permits.
Snake Pass certainly isn't for the faint of heart, but scenic as you pointed out. Are you planning to add anything to the roadside?
The industrial area (14.15) fits in well, and the "second" town (14.16) is delightful, especially at night! :thumbsup:

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on December 21, 2007, 04:45:29 PM
It's a lovely rural area Paul, a joy to look at. I agree with Joan above me, it looks so simple to make, but I never ever had a rural area that even came close to Cavendish. So, you did an excellent job there my friend! 
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on December 22, 2007, 01:47:29 AM
Wonderful overview of that city. Looks beautiful! And great work on the farms. Also nice pictures of the city...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on December 23, 2007, 06:32:53 AM
Thanks.
I like those rural curvy roads. :)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 23, 2007, 12:01:22 PM
Cavendish looks great, my friend! The town looks fantastic, and I love all the farms and the windy roads. Excellent job! I'll be looking forward to seeing more!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: suplado! on December 25, 2007, 05:02:00 PM
cool pics!! the overview looks so realistic, nice town and great attention to details
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on December 25, 2007, 06:55:52 PM
Wow, monster update! I cant tell you how gorgeous Cavendish and Lane are; just spectacular. Your ploppable river is so realistic, and the river beds lined with trees are as well. I especially adored shots 14.03 and 14.16!
Title: WEST END - Update 15
Post by: paroch on December 28, 2007, 05:56:15 AM
REPLIES:

Joan:  I hope you had a great Christmas and that all of your plans paid off.  Thanks for your nice comments (as always!).  I really enjoyed creating Cavendish and was pleased with the result, so I'm glad you appreciated it.  I have played around with Lot Editor (see below) and found a track in there, so watch this space.  As for Snake Pass - I have no plans to put anything beside the road, but you know me, always open to suggestions &idea

Sebes:  Hi, I hope you're well.  And hey, thanks for the comment, it's nice to hear things like that - maybe with these compliments I should stick to the rural stuff!

Bat:  Thanks as always.  I know you've had a busy month with Capporth being in OSITM, so I'm impressed you still have time to visit so many MDs so regularly. :thumbsup:

BoKriF:  Good to see you here again, thanks.

Thundercrack:  Hey, long time, no see&smrt!  I hope you're doing well.  Thanks for your comments, I'll make sure there are more rural updates to come.

Suplado!:  Thanks for your comment, I'm glad you liked the overview pic.

Nedalezz:  You know I'm a big fan of what you've produced in Qumma, so comments like that from you make me very  ()stsfd()



UPDATE 15:   My first forays into Lot Editor

OK guys, a slightly different update from me this time........Following Capo's Lot Editor Tutorial in his MD, plus Joan's suggestion that I could find what I wanted, I finally had a go.  So here are some pics of what I've produced.  You'll see them being introduced to West End over the coming updates.

Your comments are always welcomed - suggestions you guys have given me have always helped me produce something better......

15.01  Tennis Courts:
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So simple really.  It bugged me that I could not find a single court with a fence.  Yeah, sure, there's PEG's brilliant tennis park (two courts) and there's one that has four courts, but I wanted one on its own, that I could combine if I wanted to.  So here it is.  I used Jestarr's chainlink fence.


15.02  Fences:
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It also bugged me that whenever I built parks, other than the BSC Park Wall, I struggled to fence them in. Now, I like the BSC Park Wall, but I wanted a bit of variety.  The two park sets I use the most are BSC and SFBT, so I created straight and corner fences for each....The pic shows the BSC Grass texture with Jestarr's Park Fence, A wooden fence (I think it is Maxis), Jestarr's Chainlink Fence and Jestarr's Security Fence.
I added the BSC alignment arrows to make them easy to plop.


15.03  Changing Rooms and Hot Dogs:
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Another thing that I wanted in my parks, were changing rooms for the footie players.  You often see nice parks and pitches in MDs, but where do the players get changed?  Well here's the answer.  They are portable classrooms (I think from Deadwoods).  Set up in two configurations.  One with dugouts for the coach and subs and one with benches for the mums and dads to sit with the bags whilst their kids get changed.
And I also wanted somewhere to buy a hot dog, or an ice cream.  I wanted an ice cream van (does anyone else outside of England have ice cream vans??) but couldn't find one.


15.04  Changing Rooms in Action:
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And here they are in situ.  I wouldn't usually use both sets - just wanted to see what they looked like.


15.05  Library, Fire Station and Junior School:
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The main thing that drove me to do these was Maxis insistence on putting parking lots at the rear of buildings with no access.  So I just re-jigged a few lots.  With the library I added some trees and benches as a nice place to sit and read.  And with the school I fenced it in but left access to where I'd place the playing field.


15.06  Football Pitches:
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All across England you'll find football pitches.  So, I just wanted to create some variety.  These are not stadiums, just pitches for small local teams, both kids and adults.  They'll be empty most of the week, but come Saturday and Sunday they'll have plenty of games going on.  I wanted somewhere to park, plus somewhere to change. 


15.07  More Football:
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Just a slightly different configuration.


15.08  More Football:
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With or without fences.  These will be used mainly for schools.


15.09  Construction Site:
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I've seen plenty of people use construction zones and they do look good, so I though I'd see what I could do.  I couldn't do a tall crane as the tower pieces only seemed to work from one direction!  But this is a start I guess.


So, how do some of these look "in game"?

15.10  High School:
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The school was made using props by Deadwoods and RP (zero7).  SFBT park textures surround the school.  Custom lots for the tennis, running and football.


15.11  City Jail
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Here is Great Portland City Jail.  Custom lots include the farm fields and the fences. 


And I also played around with a few junction ideas (thanks Pat).......

15.12  Roundabout Junction:
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Possibly the most common junction type in the UK (or certainly in Essex!)  Highway raised over a roundabout.  Shame I couldn't make the roundabout rounder!


15.13  Avenue /Double roundabout / Highway Junction:
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I never realised that the NAM avenues could have one way roads coming off just one side!  So once I found this, I created this junction.  Remember we're Left Hand Side of the road here!  This junction is really busy and I enjoy just sitting watching the traffic zip about it.  You'll also see I got rid of the Maxis standard train at last.  Red double decker bus in bottom left corner as well.


15.14  Crazy Junction:
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Now, this is based on the junction of the M25 and A127, about 8 miles from where I live.  It looked good in my head, but the one-way raised roads did some things I didn't expect which resulted in it looking like a roller coaster!!  I'll re-work it and show you the results.


15.15  "So West End":
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I thought I should include at least one picture that is somewhat typically West End.....A Great Portland suburb with brilliant BATs/LOTs from Gascooker, RP (zero7) and MattB.  Those three are true artists as far as I'm concerned, without them West End's suburbs would look so much poorer - THANKYOU.  Apologies if I've missed any other of the house BATters. 


Well, I hope you enjoyed this slightly different update.  I'd be really interested to hear what you think of the LOTs.  Should I show future ones in the MD, or start a thread on the LOT Editor Projects - whaddayaaaall think?

'til next time........ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on December 28, 2007, 07:57:19 AM
I have missed too many updates, I feel ashamed. I'm happy my small tutorial inspired you to use the LE, it's so much better to give your city your own personal touch. Very nice to show us your progress so far and I can't wait to see what you come up with next. I already like what I see, the prison is really well done. The maxis jail doesn't look very realistic, yours does. In the SFBT Essentials there is also a very nice looking fence: SFBT_Maschendrahtzaun, also the red and white pole you see many times at the entrance of a parking lot looks very good: SFBT_Schrankerotweiss. I think you will like them as well!

I like what I see in all the updates I've missed. Keep it up!

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on December 28, 2007, 08:43:51 AM
Great work on the park(s), Paul! :thumbsup: You have added some important details I never thought of -- especially the changing rooms and concessions.
The only thing I see missing are bleachers or stands where observers can sit to watch a game or match. I could be wrong about the need this element, though. I am not a sports fan and include facilities in my cities only for the sake of realism. I do know, however, that almost all the attractions in parks I'm familiar with have some kind of seating, even if only for watchful parents.
Hope you'll continue to use the LE because you have some very good ideas. For me, being able to do more than wish for something has been kind of addictive! ;)

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on December 28, 2007, 10:35:56 AM
These junctions are looking very nice, paroch! And great work with the LE! Also nice high school area there!
Picture 15.15 is looking fantastic! Looking forward to more...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on December 28, 2007, 12:00:35 PM
Paul - that are the best football fields ever! You have made them very realistic.

And it's a great idea to move the parkings without street access to the street side of the Maxis buildings. You convinced me to try to learn lotting myself!


PS: I believe this post makes West End a SC4D Classic!  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on December 28, 2007, 12:12:14 PM
Congratulations, Paul. It couldn't happen to a better MD! :thumbsup:

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on December 29, 2007, 10:02:52 AM
very beautiful city , the last image is splendid  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on January 02, 2008, 01:12:47 PM
First off a big thank you to everyone who has commented and taken part in West End and helped it reach the Classics section.  When I started out I never really envisaged it getting this far, so I'm well chuffed ()stsfd()

As for the custom lots, well I have started a thread on the LOT Projects board.  I'll preview them over there and then if they look right they'll make an appearance here.  So feel free to pay it a visit ;)

REPLIES

Capo:  Good to see you here again in West End.  And no need to feel ashamed!  Thanks for the tips re SFBT fences, I will check them out.  Hopefully you'll like some of the other lots I've come up with.

Joan:  Thanks for that and I'm glad you liked them.  I did agonise a bit over seating areas.  In the two big parks in my home town they have plenty of football pitches and none of them have seating areas other than the odd bench.  So I think it's a case of I'll build some with and some without more formal seating.  And yes, I have a few other ideas, mainly recreating bits and pieces I see in daily life!  Trouble is LE can be time consuming, which means less time for actually playing!

Bat:  Good to see you again (and congrats on a great OSITM).  I re-worked the last junction, see below.

Sebes:  Wow, what a compliment, thanks.  And yes, give lotting a go, if I can do it, anyone can!!  I'd be interested to see your results.  And thanks for being the person to put West End in classics - as a "reward" I would like you to name something in West End, I'll PM you for details.

Warconstruct:  Welcome to West End.  Your comment re the last picture prompted me to post it in the picture competition where it won two rounds and was only denied entry to the Hall of Fame by losing the third round 10-9!



UPDATE 16 - 2nd January 2008

Well, West End starts 2008 with a move to Classics.  The region has also just passed 500,000 citizens for the first time.  And I have just reached Forums Mayor status.  So with all of that activity I guessed it must be time for an update!

We're going back to Great Portland today.  The city has grown considerably since our first visit here.  It is now the second largest borough in West End with approx 130,000 sims living here.

16.01  Great Portland Mosaic (Trains, planes and automobiles):
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We start at the airport's sole runway, with a WestJet plane waiting for take off.  WestJet are the official airline of West End (and shouldn't be confused with the Canadian regional airline!).

We then move down through Fursan Friendship Park, named after the victorious team in the West End Tournament.  You'll notice the custom changing room lots!

Custom lots also make up the residential six house row development (shame that high wealth property grew!)

Next down, is the market that is held in Rom Place.  The GLR serves Rom Place with its own station.  The trams are often full with shoppers who have stocked up on fresh fruit and veg as well as plenty of other bargains.

We then cross the mainline railway which has been upgraded to four tracks all the way from Oxford to Wardour to accommodate the high volume of passengers.  And I had to wait ages to actually get a train on each of the four tracks (bottom one is just peeking from behind the building).  You can also see the Dominguez Hospital next to the railway.

We then cross the riverside branch of the GLR and finish on Hunter Point which is home to some low wealth high risers with great riverside views.


16.02  Fursan Friendship Park Football Pitches
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Here are the four pitches in the park.  Plenty of kids from across Great Portland and the surrounding areas play here in the hope of being spotted by the scouts from FC Portland.


16.03  Fursan Friendship Park Football in Action
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And here you can see the pitches in use.


16.04  Fursan Friendship Park Lake
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The park is separated by a road, so there are ped bridges linking the two parts together.  The lake is a popular spot where people sit and enjoy the views.  There are also a few different places to buy a bite to eat or a cool refreshing drink.


16.05  Ready for take off
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Since the decision was taken not to extend the airport, the area to the south of the airport has been developed.  The houses are quite close to the runway, but once the new airport in Carnaby is opened, it is likely that the airport here in Great Portland will close.  The planned International airport in Carnaby is only a few miles away, so there will be little demand for this old facility.  A few different business groups are bidding for the land, with different ideas of how to make use of the existing infrastructure - watch this space.


16.06  Another near miss
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I love this picture.  One of those images that the game throws up from time to time.  It shows just how busy the airport has become.  Indeed the Aviation Authority are pressing for the new airport to be constructed as quickly as possible as the current airport is clearly at capacity!


16.07  Airport & West Central districts
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A zoomed out shot of the airport and the West and Central districts, including Rom Place.  The far left is the area of the mosaic above in 16.01


16.08  Downtown, Industrial and Old Port districts
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Great Portland started life as an industrial town, hence the close proximity of the industrial zones and the old port to the city centre.  The new port is just across the River Dinium.


16.09  North East suburbs (including re-worked junction)
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As the city sprawled outward the zoning became less dense, with just a few tall buildings near to the main roads/junctions.  You can also see that many of the borough's schools are in this area.  In the top right of the picture is a re-working of the junction shown in picture 15.14 in the previous update.  This is a much more realistic version of the M25/A127 real life junction (just a shame the roundabout is not round!).


16.10  South Eastern district
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Not much to say here, other than one of the plush towers seems to have fallen on to hard times!


16.11  South Western district, including FC Portland
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This is where the final of the tournament was held.


16.12  City View
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The city is now almost fully developed.  There are no more large scale developments planned - just a bit of tidying up and tree planting.  Farms won't grow, so I may have to build some custom ploppable farm houses to go with the fields.


16.13  Traffic View
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And here is an idea of the traffic networks.


Well, I hope you enjoyed seeing an up to date Great Portland.

Seeing as West End has now passed 500,000 citizens I think that it's now grown up enough to be considered an independent nation.  Up until now I have considered it a region of Sim Nation, but now, it's time to declare independence.  I will try to develop some governmental departments and institutions to show you in the next update.

'til next time......... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on January 02, 2008, 02:08:32 PM
And this is exactly why I return evey time here : what an images, what a talent you show!

The airports is simple yet amazing, the first mosaic is showing all my favourite residential bats (and in a very natural way), the football fields turned out really nice, and the industrial zone looks great too!

There is only one but: I don't like the waterfronts you use - I'd prefer the conrete ones from Marrast in this setting.

But never-the-less: this is a great show master! Thanks for entertaining  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on January 02, 2008, 03:06:32 PM
Hey Paul, that's an impressive update you have here. :thumbsup:
Good work on the mosaic, and I'm glad to see your LEs in game. I see you have quite a few benches around the pitch fields, and folks can always bring their lawn chairs if they want to. :)
The Fursan Friendship Park Lake looks really good – I'll have to try my hand at TPW one of these days.
Congratulations on reaching 500,000+ - I'm not quite halfway there, but I'm on my way and enjoying the privilege of walking in some awesome footsteps! ;)
And I was pleased to see your transport system in a nutshell – I'll PM a question I have about textures.
I'm especially interested in watching your government sector come of age. This is an exciting era in WEST END's development.

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TopCliff on January 02, 2008, 03:10:51 PM
This is a fantastic journal. If I had four arms, I'd give you four thumbs up. I hope this is good enough.  :thumbsup:  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on January 03, 2008, 01:45:24 AM
Fantastic new update there! And that park is looking really nice!!
Wonderful pictures of the airport, too. Also great region overviews!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on January 03, 2008, 11:26:31 AM
Welcome to the Classics, my friend!

With updates like the previous one, you are definitely here where you belong! Great work!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on January 03, 2008, 01:10:18 PM
Congrats on your promotion to the Classics, well deserved.

You know, with each update I see from you I always think one thing: Each update is of higher quality then the previous one. It's real nice to see you 'evolving' into true greatness (don't get me wrong, I always liked what I saw...but your latest work is really amazing) and I must say that with the latest update (and very important: the story that comes with it) I am just struck with awe. Those footballpitches are so nice and remind me so much of a football-park not so far from my home...Great work Paul, please keep it up! I'm longing for more :)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: ejc on January 05, 2008, 02:32:39 AM
nice work on the LE!

I wish I could play with it, but Windows Vista doesn't let me run it!  :(
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on January 05, 2008, 10:01:05 AM
ejc, have you tried waiting a really long time for the LE to respond? I'm using XP Pro, and when I first power up, LE can take as long as 10 minutes to run, although 4 to 6 minutes is closer to normal. Later, 1 to 2 minutes is all it takes provided I haven't restarted XP.
Hope this helps, and what do you have to lose but 10 minutes out of your day! :)

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on January 05, 2008, 02:46:45 PM
I'll post full replies later - but for ejc........

I also use vista (home premium edition) and the Lot Editor works fine.  The best advice I can give (and to Joan too) is to remove everything from your plug ins that you don't plan to edit.  This cuts down load times SIGNIFICANTLY.  If I want to create a new park, then I remove evrything except Parks, Trees and Prop Packs.  Before I did this it could take 10-15 minutes to open.  Now, it's open in less than 2 minutes.

Hope this helps.



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nardo69 on January 05, 2008, 04:24:37 PM
I have been too busy with RLS lately otherwise I would have been here earlier!  :-[

Great work with the soccer fields, I must say I am a atd too lazy to enhance them so I use mainly the ingame one but yours are really great, you do have an eye for the small details!  &apls
I even like the runway and the way you designed the airport (did I ever metioned that I HATE airports?)

Take care and don't forget to make backups!


Bernhard  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: suplado! on January 05, 2008, 07:44:55 PM
wow -- cool overview of the city..looks like the city is complete with all means of transportation!! really like the small airport and the market in the centre!! also like the small port and the seawalls looks great...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on January 06, 2008, 02:20:19 AM
Paul, welcome to the Classics, a well deserved honour.

The airport looks great (must be good if Nardo likes it  :D, do you know he hates airports ;)) and I like the parks and green areas scattered throughout the city.

But, you know me .....

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.... I like things level  ::). Come on, at least the soccer (sorry, "football") pitches need to be flat.

Good to see you working with the TPW, well done.

Looking forward to seeing more.

Cheers

Dave

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on January 06, 2008, 01:57:39 PM
Hello Paul,

I had less time last few weeks and now I see really dtrong development in West End!  :thumbsup:

I like your general views - my favourites are Airport & West Central and Downtown, Industrial & Old Port districts.
I agree with Dave - it would be good to level at least football fields, if you won't do it, scores can be completely unexpected  :D

I must also say I like your LE attempts!  &apls
I think it is very good to start from smaller and simple lots and make them in some variants, I want to do the same  ;)

Good luck Paul!
Adam
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on January 11, 2008, 11:21:08 AM
Hi all,

My governmental area is not complete yet (for various reasons), so just some replies and one teaser......

REPLIES:


Sebes:  Thanks for the compliment - I'm just glad you like it.  As for the sea walls - yes, I know I need some more variety.  I'll add it to the long list of things to download.  I'm sure I'll find Marrasts ones here on on the STEX.

Joan:  Good to see you here as always and I'm glad you liked the update.  And yes, having your own LE creations does make a difference to your own sense of satisfaction - although it means the city building and updates slow down!  As for awesome footsteps - well I have big feet, but awesome? ;)?  The TPW is relatively easy (and fun).  And if I can help on anything feel free to ask here or by PM. 

Leo:  Good to see your first comment in West End.  And four thumbs up - well that sounds good. 

Bat:  Thanks my friend.

Dustin:  Thanks for the compliment.

Capo:  It's funny you say each update is better than the last.  "Better" of course is very subjective but I can certainly see how my building style has changed.  And with the comments and supports you guys give, it can only continue to get "better"!  And yes, the football park looks similar to one near me, and I guess there are similar ones all over the (football playing) world.

ejc:  Thanks and good luck with getting LE to work.

Bernhard:  Hey, now if you HATE airports then I have to take that as a compliment!

Suplado!:  Thanks for the comment and I'm glad someone mentioned the market.  Those lots took me AGES to get looking how I wanted!

Dave:  Thanks for the compliment.  ANd as for the football pitches - I deliberately built the lots to have a degree of slope conforming.  The football pitches in Runwell Park near where I live are also uneven, so believe it or not I was actually pleased with the slightly uneven look.  Now of course, a professional, or even semi-serious pitch would need to be flat.  But having said that Barnet FC (of the English football league) are famous for their pitch which has a slope!  But I take your point and I often go around "flattening" things with your words ringing in my ears!

Adam:  Thanks for the comment and glad you like the developments.  And as for unexpected scores West Ham recently beat Manchester United 2-1 $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%....... now that was unexpected!!



OK, not a full update but here is a teaser pic from my governmental developments in Oxford.  This is the National Assembly Building.  It's a re-lotted version of Meister Z's Rathaus.  I was hoping for some more suitable commercial development opposite the building but demand has fallen off a cliff since I've been doing some re-developments in the city centre, grrrrrrrr, I'll have to keep trying.

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I'll try and get a full update soon - but as Joan says - better to wait til it's right than rushing one through!

'til next time............ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on January 11, 2008, 03:05:43 PM
Nice start with the government update. :)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on January 11, 2008, 03:09:50 PM
Great looking building, Paul. I'll be considering some medium and large government centers myself in the weeks to come. Of course, there will have to be some LE work involved, though! ::)
Anyway, I always look forward to watching WEST END get bigger and better! :thumbsup:

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on January 11, 2008, 03:20:12 PM
I like that building very much Paroch - and also the waterfront right behind it  :thumbsup:

Looking forward to the rest of the Government District!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on January 12, 2008, 06:59:34 AM
Great teaser there! Looking forward to the update...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on January 13, 2008, 01:58:45 AM
Hmmm, well it's reasonably flat  :D Sorry, Paul, it's time I gave you a break, I do like what you are doing and my continuing harping on one point must be annoying. But.... (only kidding  ;)).

Keep the residential development up in Oxford and the commercial area across from the NA building will soon take off.

You have placed that building beautifully, and the surrounding pathways and waterfront are nicely done.

Looking forward to the full update.

Cheers

Dave







Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on January 13, 2008, 01:55:58 PM
REPLIES:

Bokrif:  Thanks, and here's more......

Joan:  Thanks and good luck with your development.

Sebes:  It took me some time to decide on the "right" building, so I'm glad you approve.

Bat:  Thanks.

Dave:  LOL, no need to give me a break.  I did flatten the ground around the Assembly building to make the park better - see what you think.



UPDATE 17:  13th January 2008


Well this update has taken me much longer than I expected to prepare.  Mainly a result of making some custom lots and also getting sidetracked into tidying up my plug-ins, running Cleanitol and DAT Packer and having to replace a load of stuff that I accidentally got rid of!!

West End has reached the point where it is now big enough and confident enough to go it alone, so has declared independence from Sim Nation.  Population continues to grow and is now at 551,000.  Of that about 190,000 are in the borough of Oxford, the capital of West End.  So I want to use this update to tell you about this new nation and how it is organised........

17.01  West End Flag:
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A simple flag.  The first person to guess why I chose this flag will get to name something in the next update!

Also, if anyone is able to make a flag like this for me to use in-game, or tell me how to do it, then I'd be really grateful.


West End is a democracy, with two elected executive bodies; the President and the National Assembly.  The President is the head of state and is elected on a four-year term.  He (or she) sets out their vision for West End - they get elected by telling the people what they want to achieve, what their priorities are and what their beliefs and visions are.  As head of state, the President is also the figurehead of the country.  The President doesn't have to be affiliated to any particular political party.  I'm assuming that at election time, there will be a candidate representing each of the main political parties plus a few independent candidates, who may be well respected businessmen, police or military officers or just a high profile West Ender who has wide popular appeal.

The President's residence is Nieuw Amsterdam Hall.  This presidential palace was built by Sebes' fine countrymen and is located right in the centre of Oxford, on the Oxon Plaza.

17.02  Nieuw Amsterdam Hall:
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This is a slightly relotted version of Kwakellar's Kolhof Palais.


17.03  Stock Exchange:
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Financial stability and growth is a key factor for West End.  The country has plans to become one of the major global financial centres.  The Stock Exchange is on Oxon Plaza as well  - this way the President can keep his eye on the market.



17.04  Oxon Plaza:
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This is the very heart of the country, with the Stock Exchange, President's residence and the Central Station.  In good times and bad, crowds gather here to either cheer and support the President or to demonstrate.
In this picture you can also see both types of bus that West End uses.  The red double deckers and the white "First" busses.


17.05  Overview of Oxon Plaza and Nieuw Amsterdam Hall:
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The main city road travels from left to right across the square.  You can see it's morning rush hour, with trains arriving at Central Station every few minutes, full of commuters. 
Looking at this picture now, I realise I need some more "grand" or "landmark" building around the plaza - maybe an opera house, or theatre?  Your thoughts are welcome.


OK, so that's the president.  He sets the agenda and he tells the National Assembly what areas he wants them to focus on and to produce legislation on.  Then it's over to the Assembly who debate and legislate.  The Assembly is dominated by the major political parties in West End, and each member of the assembly is elected on a five year term.  So, at least every 20 years the Assembly and Presidental elections take place at the same time.

Once the Assembly have voted and agreed on legislation and issues they go to the President for approval.  The president has two choices.  Either he approves the legislation, or he sends it back for changing.  He cannot send any legislation back more than twice.  The third time it arrives on his desk, he has to approve it or put it to a public referendum - when the public must decide whether to back the President or the Assembly.  Clearly, he can only do this so many times before the public get fed up.  He has to judge the public mood very carefully - if the public disagree with the President too many times his position becomes very difficult.

The Assembly is headed by the Prime Minister, who is the leader of the political party with the most members.  The Prime Minister has to effectively run the Assembly and drive legislation through.  When he and the President agree on matters, things run very smoothly.  When they disagree, it gets interesting!


17.06  National Assembly Hall:
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Here is the National Assembly Hall where it all happens.  It is right on the sea front.


17.07  Reverse View:
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And here looking back onto land.  I thought it was quite a nice touch when Hooters grew opposite the Assembly Hall.  There was a rumour that one Assembly Member got caught with one of the Hostesses!

And also, there is Chuck E Cheese.  Now this hasn't reached the UK yet, so I have to ask my American and Canadian friends to tell me what on earth Chuck E Cheese is all about!  And whilst I was taking the pics it got upgraded to some small Commercial mid risers.


17.08  Justice Ministry and Exterior Ministry:
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Nearby to the Assembly Hall is this complex that houses the Justice Ministry (left) and the Exterior Ministry on the right.  (I've always liked the sound of the Minister of the Exterior!).  These two departments are responsible for law and order and for West End's relationships with other countries.  They are also very close to the Diplomatic Zone (where the cranes are). 

The Exterior Ministry is in the process of applying for membership of the Independent Pact of Nations, IPON.  West Enders believe that as a newly independent nation they should form alliances and firendships with other independent countries without giving up any of their new found freedoms.  I'll keep you posted on our progress towards membership of IPON.


17.09  Finance Ministry and Embassies:
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On the left is the Finance Ministry.  On the right is the Embassy of The Republic of The Liberty Islands.  At the bottom is the Consulate of Qumma.


17.10  Diplomatic Zone:
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And here you can see the buildings I've just mentioned plus the ongoing construction of the Diplomatic Zone.  There is still room for some more embassies / trade offices.  If you'd like to be represented here, just let me know which building you'd like.  If you want a ready made one that's fine and if you want to make your own custom lot then that's also fine.


17.11  Hotels:
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For anyone visiting the city on political business, these two hotels close to the Assembly Hall and the Diplomatic Zone are very popular.  It's also been rumoured that this is where the Assemblyman got caught with the hostess from Hooters!


17.12  Health and Education Ministry:
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Kensington House is the home to the Health & Education Ministry.  It seemed appropriate that as these two are next to each other on the SC menu that they could have a joint ministry. 


17.13  West End United Stadium
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You may recall from the football tournament that one of the main stadia was in Oxford.  Well, due to trying to level some land, I lost the stadium and replaced it with this one.  It's called New Canio Park.


17.14  Citywide shot:
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To help you get your bearings, here'e the key:
1- Nieuw Amsterdam Hall (Presidental Palace)
2- National Assembly Hall
3- Exterior Ministry
4- Justice Ministry
5- Finance Ministry
6 - Diplomatic Zone
7- Stock Exchange
8- Oxon Plaza and Central Station
9 - Health & Education Ministry
10- West End United stadium (New Canio Park)
11- West End Tennis Stadium
12- Oxford University
13- Magnusson Point, tallest building in West End.

I may redevelop the University - it doesn't have much room there and the land would make prime residential zoning!
Commercial development is expected to grow along the main road which runs from the Assembly Hall up to Magnusson Point.  The sea front is the place to be, both for residential and commercial development in Oxford.
Medium and low density residential is expected to border the Caven Canal in the bottom right of this picture.


17.15  Oxford Regional Shot:
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I envisage that the sea front and river fronts will be home to the majority of development, with more rural communities being inland and up in the hills.  You can see they're starting to merge into each other - which is why I'm now referring to them each as boroughs, not cities.  I can see Great Portland and Oxford being part of one mass urban sprawl.  At which stage it's more appropriate that they are both boroughs of the same city.  So, I'll need to think about that for a future update.


I hope you've enjoyed this update - a bit more text than usual!  I'll focus on showing you more of the borough of Oxford next time.  I want to place a building to be the Prime Minister's office/residence, so if you can think of an appropriate building, just shout it up here.


'til next time........... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: rooker1 on January 13, 2008, 02:46:57 PM
Hey paroch,
I have been lurking for the last couple of updates.  Now I had to ssay something this time.  Great update and I really like the region pic.  I like to see what people have done on a larger scale.  As for myself, I have never done a region as much as you have .  I usually loose interest and start a new map.  ;) Great job.  You still need a sidewalk modd.  I personelly hate the changing colour of the sidewalks.

Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: mattb325 on January 13, 2008, 04:12:44 PM
Hello Paroch.

I have enjoyed reading through this journal. Well done.

I'm glad to see you experimenting with the LE - customising the game (including customising other people's custom creations  ::)  $%Grinno$% ) is one of the most enjoyable aspects of the game for me.

I enjoyed this last set of updates - I partcularly liked the busy scenes and the general chaos of the city area - it looks like it really has 'evolved' over time (and is still changing).

I particularly liked shot 17.14
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on January 13, 2008, 05:44:22 PM
Hey Paul, I hardly know where to begin commenting on such a massive update, so I'll just start at the beginning.
The UK flag contains the crosses of three patron saints. Scotland is represented by the flag of St. Andrew and Northern Ireland is represented by the flag of St. Patrick.
England is represented by the flag of St. George which contains a simple red cross on a white background. Except for the colors, it is identical to the flag of West End, so that's my guess. ::)
The government buildings are well crafted, well placed and complimented by the beautiful landscaping. You HAVE been busy, haven't you! I especially like the seaside location you have chosen for this complex.
17.07: Worry not about Hooter's proximity to the National Assembly Hall. Be assured that it is perfectly normal for members to have diplomatic relations with W.J.'s ambassadors!
BTW, Chuck-E-Cheese is a restaurant chain in America which caters to children and is a favorite parental choice for birthday parties. For a price, you can let the kids run wild and somebody else will clean up the mess! :D
I especially like the Ministries in 17.09. The design is hardly "simple," but it has a crisp, clean-cut feel to it. And I see you have dueling cranes in the Diplomatic Zone which will soon be replaced by dueling diplomats (break out the banjos)! :P
As for the annotated overviews, you know I love them. As stated in the past, we know our own cities by heart, but it's easy for a tourist to get lost. :thumbsup:
You are doing well with the LE and you're far ahead of me. I see many details which I suspect you have added yourself, and they make West End that much more special.
Oh, and don't forget to make Hooter's historic! ()stsfd()

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on January 14, 2008, 01:23:26 AM
That's a wonderful update there, paroch! Great work on that governmental area!!
Also fantastic overview!!

Looking forward to more...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Giligone on January 14, 2008, 12:04:46 PM
Sweet cities. Great work all around. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on January 14, 2008, 03:56:02 PM
Lovely update, paroch! Well the red cross is definitely a representative of England, and my guess is the light blue is somehow related to West Ham FC. I know that the colours or Light Blue and Purple, so perhaps that is the relation?

Anyway, I love the Consulate of Qumma! Working hours are 9-5 Monday to Fridays, and we are also open from 9-3 on Saturdays! Come on in and find out all about investment in one of the hottest markets in the world! We'll even serve you coffee (or tea).
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on January 14, 2008, 03:58:48 PM
great Update Paul and massivly hugh  :thumbsup: Loved court yards and your custom lots have not gone to waste at all!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tkirch on January 15, 2008, 02:06:49 PM
Absolutely love the plazas.  Just did a long look at yours, catching up with all the great updates.  Looks great and can't wait for more.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on January 15, 2008, 03:28:52 PM
Really great update. I love the zoomed out screenie of Oxford. Nice capital!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on January 18, 2008, 10:30:23 PM
REPLIES:

I'm finding that I'm spending more time actually browsing the boards here, playing with Lot Editor and downloading additional Bats and Lots than actually playing the game recently.  This means that development has slowed down.  So, the next update is in my mind and the development is there, just need to take the right pics, write the right words and get on with it!  Hopefully sometime in the next few days.......

In the meantime, I owe you all some replies:

Robin:  Good to see you here again.  Thanks for the comments.  It is a huge region and I am determined to see it through.  Population is at 550k and I have a vision in my mind of the region supporting 3 to 4 million whilst still being able to have a mix of rural, urban and suburban areas.  Just hope I can keep it going that long.  As for the sidewalk modd..... I do have Jeronij's sidewalk mod plus his streetside modd installed.  I think I need to delete some of the wealth levels, as I agree, the change in texture is not ideal.  I'll play around with the plug ins and see what I can achieve.

Mattb:  Matt, you're one of my favourite Batters - just love your buildings, so it's good to have you visit.  I'm enjoying LE and am discovering some of the issues it throws up (like setting school levels correctly so it's not constantly on strike!)

Joan:  The flag.... Yes you're half way there.  The English flag (known as the St.George's Cross) is a red cross on a white background.  I'll explain the colours in Nedalezz's reply.  You were close enough to get a naming right!  I'll PM you for details.  Thanks for the words re the government buildings.  And if Hooter would like to set up his "embassy" inside the restaurant that would be a fine and amusing idea!  I've now made it historic.  And the duelling cranes comment made me laugh (remember we've already had banjos!)
Oh, and thanks for the info re Chuck E Cheese!

Bat:  Thanks my friend.

Giligone:  Welcome to West End, good to see you and thanks for the comment.

Nedalezz:  You've got the flag cracked.  West Ham colours (Claret and Blue) transposed to the English flag.  It seemed appropriate that West End adopt the colours of my team!  I'm PM you about your additional naming rights!  I'm pleases that the Qumman consulate occupies such a position of prominence, I'll be in for a coffee later to discuss some more trade proposals!

Pat:  Thanks for that and glad you liked my LE works,

Tkirch:  Thanks, and I'll be showing some changes to Oxon Plaza next time.

Bokrif:  Thanks for that, I'm glad you like the capital.

Watch this space for the next update....... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on January 20, 2008, 06:06:14 AM
Well, this is the worst update I've ever produced....... :thumbsdown:

I have run into a problem with my four most populated tiles in the Region.  I am unable to open Oxford, Great Portland, Regent or Wardour.  Between these four, they have 501,000 of the 560,000 region population.

I've done some reading on the boards here and also Joan has given me some suggestions - but so far, I've not cracked it.

If I describe the problem - maybe you'll have a suggestion for me as well:

The last time I played the city was Friday evening - all fine.  Now I've been unhappy with the sidewalk modd for a while now, the way it has the red pavement on high wealth areas and just switches from one square to the next.  Now, I thought I'd already deleted the high wealth sidewalk option - but I have also installed Jeronij's side street modd within the last week or so and it has worked fine.

So Saturday, I went into my plug-ins, deleted all except the low wealth sidewalks, and also deleted all of the side street parking options other than "London".

I then went into Lot Editor to create a new residential lot and to try to fix one I'd produced that refused to grow.  I also just amended some of the textures on another growable residential lot.

I ended up deleting one of the residential lots I created because I decided I no longer wanted it (it had not grown anywhere).


I then fired up SC4 but could not open the Oxford tile.  I can open 7 tiles that are developed but not the 4 most developed tiles.

Now, one of the things I read on a thread was that if you've deleted a modd that is used in a tile, it may prevent it from opening.  So, I have played around with different configurations of the Side Street and Sidewalk Modds in my plug ins, as I know I changed these.  I'd also only just downloaded the SAM and RHW.  So again, I have tried to open the cities with and without the SAM and RHW.  But nothing will let me in.

As for what I'd backed up - I have back ups of my plug ins - but not the region.

Joan has suggested backing everything up, then re-installing SC4, re-importing the region and taking it from there.  I will try this a bit later on today.

So anything you guys can suggest is much appreciated.  If push comes to shove, I will flatten the four tiles in question and rebuild (they'll be better second time around!).  Although one of these (Regent) is fully developed, so I could just leave it alone I guess.

In the meantime, here is what little of an update I have for you all:

UPDATE 18:

The Oxon Plaza needed some more "grand" buildings, so it has been redeveloped:

18.01  South side:
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Two Independence statues have been built outside the Nieuw Amsterdam Hall.  Next to it is the Supreme Court.  This is the highest court in the country.



18.02  North Side:
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Next to the station is the Oxford City Court. 


18.03  West Side
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From left to right is the Stock Exchange, Independence Hall and the National Business Association HQ.  A new large hotel looms behind them all.


18.04  Ferry Landing:
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This is the ferry terminal that sits behind the National Assembly Hall


And that's it for today.  Hopefully I'll recover it, if not then the next update may be a little while and also a bit different!!


'til next time............... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on January 20, 2008, 06:43:44 AM
Oh - that is  nightmare Paul.... hopefully you'll get help and get thinks sorted out and Westend back.... It's too nice to be lost :'(
I had it once with an airport city - freaked out completely - but managed to get it back just as accidental as it got lost...I cannot recall what I did to get it back though...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on January 20, 2008, 07:38:32 AM
Yes, great new update there! :thumbsup:
And also hope that you can fix your problem! ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: mattb325 on January 20, 2008, 02:29:24 PM
Hi Paul - I hope I can be of some small help - when batting/lot making, I frequently move files in and out of my plugins for testing.

Now I have the following 'working' mods: maxis landmarks with jobs and the nam; if I forget to put either of these back in - or even part of either, I cannot open any tile until they are reinstalled. I have some other tree/pretty mods and the like, but these don't affect the opening of tiles. It really doesn't sound like any lots/textures that you may have removed.

First step: I would suggest putting the SAM back exactly as it was in your plugins and undo any other changes made since last in these tiles. See if this works (although it sounds like you've been trying this). Make sure you haven't accidentally removed any NAM files.

Second step if the first gives no assistance, try opening the tiles with no plugins whatsoever (if you get in, don't save the city). I doubt this will work, but its something you should always try.
Then, put half your plugins in and repeat - it could be something downloaded; then try the other half - whichever stops the tiles from opening - the culprit is in that half; it's then a process of elimination

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on January 20, 2008, 04:05:44 PM
Those are some nice photos, Paul. I like the diversity of building styles. The courthouses are especially appealing because buildings like that usually have such beautiful interiors. They are prime destinations for connoisseurs of historical architecture. :)
Also, I'm glad to see recommendations forthcoming from someone more experienced than I am, and I hope they work for you. Whether or not, however, just remember that you have a supportive family here that will hold your hand in times of crisis, then beat the socks off you on the football pitch the next day! :D

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on January 21, 2008, 12:58:41 AM
Paul it's certainly not a bad update, yes the news may be bad  :( , but the pic's are great.

Like the parks and and your selection of lots looks great and well planned.  :thumbsup:

Hey, even the seawall is nice and level  $%Grinno$% (couldn't resist)

Hope you resolve your game issue. I'm a total techno dunce so I'm afraid I'm of no help.

Good luck

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on January 21, 2008, 10:48:41 AM
Sad news. Also I don't have any idea what has happened to your cities. I have one developed city wich is veery old and I used few plugins there, and a half year ago I tried to open it and it crashed too, but I didn't care. I might have to try again just to help diagnose your problem (but it won't happen till friday, as I am having two exams)
Good luck!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Giligone on January 21, 2008, 07:18:01 PM
That sucks big time. That happened to one of my cities. But thankfully it was only a boring suburb and I didn't lost much. I hope you can get this fixed   &mmm
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nardo69 on January 22, 2008, 03:56:25 AM
Nice arrangement. That station, is this the new Paris Gare du Nord?

The slopes ... are tricky, I know. If I was you would experience with the different streets and railways - most slope mods have different values for the different networks. Some time laying out railways or highways then tearing them down and THEN laying streets does the trick to avoid such not very pleasant small ramps at small elevation differences.

Bernhard  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on January 22, 2008, 07:10:34 AM
Sorry to hear about your plug-in woes, my friend. It's always a sad day when things like this happen, I hope you're able to figure out the problem, though.

But on the bright side, your update looks great! Good luck!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on January 26, 2008, 09:48:22 AM
REPLIES:

Sebes:  Yes, it is frustrating.  I have tried many things but to no good.  Thanks for your concern - it will be back better than before!!

Bat:  Thanks for your comment.

MattB:  Thanks for your suggestions.  I have tried them - but cannot succeed.  I think the truth is I've now tried so many variations I cannot recall what was there to start with!!  See the update below for your McDonalds in game shot.

Joan:  Great comments, thanks.  It is a very supportive group here, so it helps. 

Dave:  Thanks my friend.  Glad you liked the update.  I don't think I've ever produced one with so few photos before.  Normal service has been resumed.  Oh, and thanks for the link to the sunken highway walls.  I've built my first sunken highway but already used something else.  They will make a future appearance!

Bokrif:  Thanks for your support and I hope the exams went well.

Giligone:
  No fix (yet) but rebuilding has begun!

Bernhard:  The station is the Helsinki Central Station by Prepo - linkie:  http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=849  Nice eh!
And thanks for the advice on slopes - yeah the entrance to the square looked a bit odd - but it's gone now, along with the rest of the city!!  Next time round it'll be a nice flat area!!

Dustin:
  Thanks for the comment - no luck yet, but onwards and upwards!!


UPDATE 19 - 26th January 2008 - WARDOUR REBORN


The original Wardour had a population of 47,000.  It was the smallest of the tiles effected by the mysterious geological fault that caused the collapse of buildings in the region!!
The new Wardour has started to be rebuilt (with back-ups ;)) and is up to a population of 9,000 so far.

I thought it might be interesting to see how the new town will grow.  Normally I post pictures of the finished article, so this is a bit of a change.....


19.01  Western Wardour
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Here is the newly terraformed map.  This is the western half, which is quite hilly.  There will be very little development here, maybe a village and maybe a farm or two, ideally a sheep farm.  To the south of the hills will be the edge of the town, with a small industrial area.


19.02  Eastern Wardour
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This is the part where most of the development will be.  I've put in a TPW river, to give it a bit of a focal point (plus I enjoyed doing the last one!).  In the valley, around the river will be mainly farms.  I decided to put all the farms in early on in the development of the tile to make sure they're done before their demand drops (had that problem plenty of times before!).


19.03  Bridges over the River
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There needed to be a few bridges for the various transport networks, so I put them in early.  Again, learning from previous mistakes!


19.04  First Housing Development
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Here's the first housing development in the new town.  I zoned a few streets with 1x1 low density residentials and they all grew as Jen_P's Woodville Road houses.  I likes the look, so spent a few minutes making them all historical.  I think Jeronij's side street mod makes a nice difference.
The old Wardour's low wealth residentials were old style UK terraces (Gascookers and SG's mainly) - so this gives it a more modern feel I thought.


19.05  Housing Development Spreads
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I mirrored the 1x1 residential zoning on the other side of the road, and luckily all Jen_P's Woodville Road houses grew again, so plenty of make historical clicking took place.  Added a few small commercial zones next to the roundabout to give the sims somewhere to shop.
The small Industrial estate was to provide early jobs and keep the power plant company!  The power plant will be demolished when the city grows some more and I'll put a cleaner plant on the edge of town.  The Helvetia Corp buildings are the only buildings plopped so far (they generate plenty of taxes!).


19.06  Station Square plus MattB's McDonalds
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Here's the first main transport hub in Wardour.  This is Wardour North station.  It's not on the mainline, but is on the branch into the north of West End.
At the top next to the station is MattB's recently released W2W McDonalds building.  I think it fits beautifully there.  Next to the station and also it's grown next to a pub.  So you can have a few beers and grab a burger for the walk home!  If you look you can see Christmas lights on the building - they appear during December and early January - nice touch MattB!!  Unfortunately I forgot to make it historical, so it got re-developed  :(


19.07  Raised River Banks - 1
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I thought that I'd create dykes along the river banks for much of the river through the farming area.  It is prone to flooding here!  This picture shows that I've raised the banks and put a road on top of each bank.  And as you can see, plenty of farm traffic.
I've not really dressed the riverbanks at all yet.


19.08  Raised River Banks - 2
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Here you can see I've added some rocks and trees to make it a bit more alive.  I think it also gives the shot a bit more perspective so you can see the banks are actually raised.


19.09  Overview - 1
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So here you can see the northern edge of wardour.  The Jen_P housing development (from pics 19.04 and 19.05) is in the bottom right corner.  As you can see it is a very rural area with plenty of farms.  You can also see the dykes a bit better here.
I've not put all the trees in yet!


19.10  Overview - 2
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This picture shows what it looks like once I've greened it up a bit with trees!  You'll notice the railway goes up on to the dyke near the top.  I also like the winding road that goes up the hill, just below the village at the top of the picture.


19.11  Overview - 3
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Here you can see the two distinct developments to date.  Mainly Jen_P's Woodville Road houses to the right and my re-lotted RP Six House Row to the left.  Small commercial zone in the centre and a custom lotted school with running track as well.


19.12  Overview - 4
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This shows the bulk of the development to date.  I plan to put a bit more industrial between the existing industrial and avenue.  A park and residential will fill in down to the motorway.


19.13  What's Next......
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My first attempt at sunken highways.  The town centre commercials will be along the avenue to the south of the highway.
I need to work out how to put a station in the sunken rail area.
I need to work out how to build a junction from the sunken highway.
I need to decide where to rebuild Wardouroda's football ground.

Other than that, I have a reasonably good idea of what will happen next (until I change my mind ::)).

Hope you enjoyed seeing the re-build.



'til next time....................... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TopCliff on January 26, 2008, 09:55:08 AM
It still looks awesome. Nice work redoing it. I think it's better than before. Later dude.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on January 26, 2008, 10:38:44 AM
Great update there! And wonderful river and using of the farms! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on January 26, 2008, 11:13:55 AM
The new Wardour looks fantastic, paroch! Your ploppable river is absolutely stunning! Good luck with the rebuilding, and I'll be back to see what else you've got!


Take care!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nova vesfalo on January 26, 2008, 11:27:12 AM
plopable river is the future ! ^^, you've done an amazing job with it, baks , and field around it ! ( and this little urbainzed area is good ! with filed between residential development) ! >Good luck with rebulding !
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on January 27, 2008, 02:38:39 AM
I see how you improved in city building. Not a big change, but I can see it. (Not big, because you had great cities.) The ploppable water was used perfectly, along with the flora. I like the most the slopy farms, and those residential bats from the first picture (19.04); where can I find those houses?
Good job.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on January 27, 2008, 02:46:10 AM
The New Wardour is great Paul - the plopped river is a piece of art by itself. great job. And if  I may say so: it looks even better than the previous Wardour...

&Thk/(Hmm... maybe I should start all over with my region as well...  &Thk/(
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on January 27, 2008, 02:04:33 PM
Great work Paul, particularily like the residential estates, especially with the Jen_P lots, they are some of my favourites.

The TPW looks good, nice work with the shoreline.

Paul, you improve with every update. Looking forward to the next.

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on January 30, 2008, 04:09:41 AM
New and improved, I really like what I see Paul. The first signs of a great rebuild are there, I wish you a lot of luck with it. Jen_P's houses indeed look cute and I'm impressed with your work on JRJ's plopable water. Excellent work (as always), please keep it up!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on February 03, 2008, 12:37:48 PM
REPLIES:

TopCliff/Leo:  I think I agree with you.  I'm really enjoying this tile and can see the improvements in my building style since last time.

Bat:  Thanks for the compliment. :)

Dustin:  Hey, thanks for your kind words.  I admit that my TPW ideas come from Pat and Tooheys.

Nova Vesfalo:  Thanks - it's nice to get such compliments about the river.

Bokrif:  I've already sent you the link to the Jen_P houses.  And I found more of her great buildings and downloaded them too! :D

Sebes:  I'm liking the new Wardour better too.  But seriously, think carefully before restarting a region.  There are always empty tiles!!  PS-when are we going to see some of your cities??? ()what()

Dave:  Well, I think the reason it looks good is for two reasons:  1-I copied your TPW style! And 2 - I started with a nice new FLAT tile!! :thumbsup:

Capo:  Thanks for dropping in and leaving such kind words.


UPDATE 20 - 3rd February 2008.


Well, the rebuilding of Wardour goes on.  The city population is now up to 35,000.  The original wardour had 49,000.  I plan to get it to the same size and then move on.

The biggest difference between the old and new Wardour is that I've actually planned this city before I started.  I know where I want each type of zone to be.  I pictured where the city centre would be, where the industry would be and where the low density residential estates would be.  And most importantly for this tile, where the farms would be.  I think it's the farms that are the "glue" in this tile.

Enough words..... Picture time.  Today we're going to see the rural bits of the Borough of Wardour.

20.01  Norvaney Village
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To the north east of Wardour itself is the village of Norvaney.  It nestles beside a hill and is surrounded by farmland.


20.02  Village School
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The village school is a BAT by Vanderaap and it's the first time I've actually plopped it.  I like it, although I guess it would look more at home in a W2W setting.  I just wanted something a bit different for a change.  This picture was taken late in the day and look at those shadows on the football pitch.


20.03  Village Life 1
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Here's the south west corner of the village.  I think Jeronij's side street mod just adds so much character to this sort of housing development.


20.04Village Life 2
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This is the north west corner of the village.


20.05  Village Flats
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The local council built these flats in the village to provide affordable homes to many of the farm workers who work the local farms.  I can't remember who made this BAT (that's the problem when you download so many) but I really like it.


20.06  The Local Team
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Norvaney doesn't have a full time football team.  Most of the villagers are fans of Wardouroda Football Club.  But this pitch is used by three local part time teams.  The land was given by one of the local farmers.  And if you look in the garden of the house next to the pitch it looks as though the peace and tranquillity of the village has been shattered!


20.07  Honeysuckle Drive
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Here's a close up of one of the residential roads.  I think it's a nice mix of houses and looks like a nice peaceful place to live.


20.08  High Street (South)
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Here's the south side of the High Street. 


20.09  High Street (North)
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And here's the north side.  This village is great if you like nuts, Chinese food, waffles, like karaoke, have a car that need repairs and you visit "adult" bars.  If you need to do the weekly grocery shopping, I suggest you drive into Wardour itself!


20.10  Lipsmon Bridge
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This is the main road out of the village.  The Lipsmon Bridge crosses the River of Qumma (thanks Nedalezz), go over the bridge and turn left for Wardour.


20.11  A Random Farm
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A large greenhouse farm for all my Dutch friends.......


20.12  Wardour Overview
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This is how Wardour is looking now.  Norvaney is just to the right of the bridge at the top of the picture.  This shows you the whole of the River of Qumma, that flows through Wardour.
You can see the city centre to the bottom right of the shot.

Joan - your naming suggestion will appear next time.
Nedalezz - your other name will be used when I build a building grand enough.  That may, or may not be in Wardour.

Next time I plan to show you two of the key parts of Wardour - the industrial zones and the football pitches!

I should also tell you that West End gained acceptance into the Independent Pact of Nations (IPON).  This is a group of 9 MDs/CJs that hold summits to discuss areas where they can work together.  I'll keep you posted on how this will impact on West End in future updates.  If you're interested in knowing more about IPON just ask me, or have a look at the IPON site here:
http://uisn.freeforums.org/index.php

'til next time................ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on February 03, 2008, 11:42:46 PM
Very nice Paul, the residential areas are prepared with your typical high standard and I like the small commercial areas built throughout.

The farms look good and the bridge over the TPW is a beaut.

Perhaps the farms along the hwy need a bit of seperation from the hwy, perhaps a fence or a row of trees.

Nevertheless, another fine update  :thumbsup:

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on February 04, 2008, 11:04:49 AM
Hi Paul,
Looks like I missed an update, so I have some catching up to do. ::)
First of all, I'm glad to see Wardour rising from the ashes, and especially glad to see you've inlcuded some ground-zero shots.
The river looks great, and I love the raised banks. Love the farms on those rolling hills, too.
19.12 is the kind of photo I always like to see because it helps me put all the pieces together.
And the Feb. 3rd update...
I think you did well in your city planning venture, and IMO, planning is a vital part of success in the game.
It's a pleasure to see your LE work in use, and I think you're right to limit growth in Wardour to retain the rural atmosphere.
All the photos are just lovely to look at, but the last one - the overview -- is especially stunning. :thumbsup:

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Antoine on February 04, 2008, 12:31:04 PM
I like very much your village ! So... british with BATs  $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on February 05, 2008, 06:40:32 AM
The village area is looking very nice, paroch!
And great farms there, too! Fantastic update! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 05, 2008, 12:22:09 PM
Another magnificent update, my friend! The farms, the neighborhoods, everything looks fantastic! Keep it up!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: panthersimcity4 on February 05, 2008, 01:04:15 PM
I love your little towns... they're so quaint and nice.  ;D
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on February 05, 2008, 01:51:04 PM
Thanks Paul - the residential areas look great! I also love those 2 apartment houses...  And the greenhouse indeed made my day (how did you know  ;)
The overview is giving a good impression of how you develop the town. The farmland on the hills looks very realistic.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on February 06, 2008, 01:18:53 PM
I like Wardour. Looks very nice from the overview. Only those three flats doesn't look good on the west side of the town. Anyway, your micromanagement is stunning.  Good job!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nardo69 on February 06, 2008, 01:35:35 PM
Just a pleasure for my old eyes ..  ()stsfd()

Lots of nice details like the streets on the dams on the shores of the river, rolling farm fields  ;)  and that flat builsings just fits inside that village - most of the time these kidn of buildings don't fit# this is the exception ofthe rule!

I just wouldn't do any more bridge over that river - you already hav 6 of them!

Only thing I miss is a church in the center of the village ....
(Its counterparts are there ...  :D )

Take care my friend!

Bernhard  :thumbsup:



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on February 09, 2008, 02:48:31 AM
REPLIES:

Dave:  Thanks for your kind words - I'm enjoying the TPW bridges now!  And thanks for the suggestion re the farms next to the highway.  I know what you mean and I'll amend some of them next time I dive in.

Joan:  I think I can forgive you for missing an update ;)  I know you like a good overview shot, so I'll try to keep 'em coming.  Glad you liked the raised banks - I thought they'd make a nice change.

Antoine:  Welcome to West End  :thumbsup: always good to see another new face.  And thank you for your comment.  I try to achieve a mix of British with a hint of European thrown in.  But you'd also be surprised that many of the houses in the last update are from Australian Batters - Jen_P and MattB.

Bat:  Thanks my friend.

Dustin:  I'll do my best to keep it up.  I try to keep the balance between trying new things and doing the things I think work well.

PantherSim:  Good to see you here  :thumbsup:  Quaint is good, I like that, thanks.

Sebes:  It was Capo who pointed me to the greenhouses.  Trouble is, the minute after I took the pic they abandoned!  I really enjoy the rolling farms, so I'm glad you like them too.

Bokrif:  Thanks for your comment.  And I know what you mean about the three blocks of flats..... See the bottom of this update for more on that!

Bernhard:  Cheers for the detailed comment.  I agree with your comment about the flats in the village - most blocks would look wrong there.  Sometimes we are lucky with what grows - that time I was lucky!
And you are also right about the lack of a church in the village.  See below for a re-work,


UPDATE 21:  9th February 2008

Let's start off with a last little trip back to the village of Norvaney.  Nardo69 had it spot on when he said that the village was missing a church.  When I looked at the village again it hit me like wet fish ?=mad)=  It was obvious that the village needed a place to worship.
21.01  Norvaney Faith:
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And seeing as I missed this first time round I thought I could fit two in to make up for my bad behaviour!  So, in the centre of the village on the cross roads is a synagogue and up on the edge of the village is a church.  And seeing as the flats got such positive comments I squeezed them in the picture as well!


Now, I think that the weakest part of my game is my industrial areas.  Wardour is an important industrial town within West End, so here it is.  Your comments are always welcome and here I'd really appreciate any pointers so that I can improve them....

21.02  Helvetia
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This was the first industrial are in Wardour.  The Helvetia plants are my only money cheat.  They generate approx 1,500 per month in taxes, so I often plop one or two early on in the game to give the city that early boost.  They also grow from time to time, so after a while I often bulldoze them to allow for variety.
There's a mix of older brick factories mixed in with tag ones great furnace which is more modern and gives a more "heavy industry" look with their tall smoke pipes.


21.03  Main Junction
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More of the same industrials huddled around one of the main junctions in Wardour.  Plus there is a garbage handling site here as well.


21.04  Sewage Works
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I love this sewage plant.  It's by Glenni and can be found here:
http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1210
The lay-out here is my standard industrial area lay-out.  A bit griddy with some dead end streets going into the middle of a built up area.  Not exactly imaginative, I know.  Up at the top is the SFBT Donutator.  I like this building and re-lotted the power plant version just to give the parking a more logical position.


21.05  Rail Yards - 1
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Here is where much of the city's freight is handled.  I like the various transit enabled Industrials that Jestarr has produced.  Plus the almost "standard" freight yard that we all seem to use!  Plenty of red double decker busses serve this area!


21.06  Rail Yards - 2
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This is the first time I've plopped one of these.  They look brilliant, but I'm not convinced I've got the placing of it right - what do you think?


21.07  New Industrial Park
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And here is a newly built industrial park on the eastern side of the River of Qumma.  I tried to make it so that the industrials were not actually on the main roads, but you have to enter the industrial park via the streets.


As I said, ANY feedback on how I place industrials will be welcomed - I know it's an area where I can improve.


Wardour is an Industrial town but it is also a football town.  So here's a tour of some of the footie places in town:


We'll start at school level.  All of the schools in Wardour have at least one football pitch.  Here are some examples (hope the regulars appreciate the school names ;))

21.08:  The Tooheys High School for the Study of Flat Surfaces:
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21.09:  The Bat High School of German Efficiency:
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21.10:  The Thundercrack Junior School for Statisticians:
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As you can see, each school places a lot of importance on their football team.

The next level up is the local amateur football scene.  Local teams either play on park pitches or on pitches that are set aside for local teams - usually on land owned by the local council:

21.11:  Mousie Park:
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A double pitch park on the western side of town/


21.12:  Bokrif Corner:
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This pitch is used by four different local teams - two who play on Saturdays and two on Sundays.  It's opposite the church, so on Sundays it gets busy around here!


21.13:  The Sebes Arms:
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This is where the fearsome team of the Sebes Arms play.  The pub opposite the pitch is called the Sebes Arms and is known to be quite a rough pub where some shady characters drink.  The football team reflects the pub and has been known to have three red cards in one match.  They won their division last season to get promoted and had a celebratory meal in the Sum Ting Wong Chinese restaurant next door to the pub.


21.14:  Nardo Park:
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This is where the best amateur team play.  Trouble is this year they have to play Sebes Arms.  It will be a local derby with blood and guts!


21.15:  New Merry Park (rear):
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21.16:  New Merry Park (front):
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This is home to Wardouroda FC.  One of the big professional teams in West End.  The stadium holds 28,500 and draws its fans from both the town of Wardour and the surrounding farming villages.  This was one of the host stadia used in the West End tournament.  I've heard rumours that there will be the second West End Tournament in May.  If it happens Wardouroda will want to host more matches.


I hope you've enjoyed this tour of the industrial and sporting aspects of Wardour.

Next time we'll focus on the transportation network and commercial areas.  As a warm up, here's a pic of one of the motorway junctions at the Dunrose Union Crossing:
21.16:  Dunrose Junction:
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21.17:  Overview:
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Here's what Wardour looks like at the moment.  Bokrif raised the point about whether the tall blocks of flats on the Western side of town look right there.  I'm always interested in what you think, so I've set up a poll.  Should the tall flats stay?  Add your vote at this link  http://doodle.ch/m7b3nugkn5zmsqgt and just before the next update I will act on your voting.  If you vote "yes" the tall block stay.  If you vote "no" then the three "plattnebau" blocks will be demolished and replaced with mid-rise apartments.

'til next time................. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on February 09, 2008, 03:19:41 AM
That's a very nice village, paroch!
...And thanks for the name...

Great work on these schools and parks and stadium!! Also nice pictures of Wardour! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on February 09, 2008, 04:16:07 AM
The industrial areas look great! The only thing I would say is that perhaps a bit more concrete junk lots around the factories so that they are not so bundled together...but otherwise, they look good. Another huge update, so impressive. Wardour and the surrounding villages look absolutely great!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on February 09, 2008, 12:11:30 PM
Excellent update, Paul.
You and Nardo69 were right -- the churches add a really nice touch to Norvaney.

I think the industrial areas in Wardour look just fine. Industrial parks, as we often call them, are usually griddy and largely unadorned. Sometimes there's a bit of landscaping out front to make the entrances look a little better, but otherwise they're strictly business for profit. The larger factories usually sit on oversize chunks of real estate where existing trees are left uncut. It makes for a slightly more attractive setting, but I think the underlying reason is the idea of possible expansion in the future, not good looks.

As for the rail yards, I've never tried any either so I'll leave comments to the experts. ???

The school grounds and parks are delightful
, and yayaya, I get two footies and everybody else gets just one!  :D BTW, does RODA JC in the stadium mean anything?

Thanks again for rounding out the update with an overview which is looking better and better I might add! :thumbsup:

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on February 09, 2008, 01:58:04 PM
I know I don't comment too much, but I feel the following is enough: I like the industrial area!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on February 09, 2008, 02:27:44 PM
ok Paul , you got to explain to me the link you lay between the roughest bar in town, shady characters and moi... I know that I get a bid ?=mad)= after a few too many wines but that it could end in blood and guts derby with Nardo ??   $%Grinno$%  I swear you, there is nothing rough going on in Sebes' arms my friend (but of course if I could get my arms around an entire football team who knows  ;)  

But seriously, I also plop railyards in most of my cities (I use NCD's for that) and yours look great. But the 2 double decker busses driving on that dead-end street in the waste lands is kind of funny... make we realy wonder what is going on there... uhm?

The Merry stadium looks great (Joan: the stadium is batted after the Parkstad Limburg stadium in Kerkrade (NL), and the homebase for the local Roda JC football team) . I can tell you FC Manhattan is already training very hard to join the tournament again, and loads of Mets fans are speculatively booking tickets to Westend already.

And in your poll I voted yes, for the plattenbauten to stay. As added in my comments on Doodle: any city with so many industries needs these kind of social housing from the 60's and 70's for the laborers to live in. And as Wardouroda has a 28500 stadium you''ll have to give the hometeams hooligans some shelter too (they need a place to go when they come out of Sebes' arms ;)



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on February 10, 2008, 01:07:28 AM
QuoteThe Tooheys High School for the Study of Flat Surfaces

hehehe, I love it, and I can't believe they still teach that the Earth is round  :D

Good to see you're dirty side, nice industrial area and rail lots  :thumbsup:

In fact the entire update is well done, but I must say, the standout is your LE work.  &apls

Love the fences. I really have to teach myself how to do that.

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on February 10, 2008, 11:41:22 AM
Well, with the votes at 3-1 in favour of demolishing the tower blocks, they're starting to look doomed!

I thought I'd provide you with a closer pic, so you can get a better idea of what they look like.  Between the three blocks they house approx 4,500 sims.

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Next update is likely to be next weekend, so there's still time to either save them, or condemn them!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: capo on February 10, 2008, 06:24:47 PM
Wow, I just recently noticed that you download pretty much the same content from the STEX as I do :) Very , very nice updates since I recently posted in this thread, though I am starting to get curious where you got the buildings in the 20.05 pic and your last pic from. I know you don't reallly rememeber...though I am curious :D

I really like what I see (hint: Mas'71 has just released a new wall pack on the LEX. I think for this city you would like this new wall series on the LEX).

I hope you are doing well my friend, take care.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 10, 2008, 06:38:14 PM
Quote
21.10:  The Thundercrack Junior School for Statisticians:

Wow! I don't know what to say, my friend! I'm very flattered! And you're right, we do take football very seriously! In fact, I think the most tabulated statistic at the school is red cards!

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on February 10, 2008, 06:39:49 PM
Paul some wonderful activity here lately and see my comment on Doodle for why I think the flats should stay....  I await with anticpation to see what happens...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on February 11, 2008, 10:29:08 AM
So at this view it is looking very good, paroch!!

Looking forward to more of West End!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on February 11, 2008, 12:04:34 PM
Missed many updates sorry 'bout that  :D

love what you done so far and all your hard work shows  &apls &apls
I think you may need this
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till the next time

:satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on February 11, 2008, 12:55:37 PM
I think the three towers can't be there. Two should be a good number. If you buldoze the middle one, it will look much more realistic and you don't have to remove all three of them with ~4500 sims.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on February 11, 2008, 01:41:22 PM
Looking at the close-up pic, indeed the middle tower should go....  kaboom %%Order?/
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Shadow Assassin on February 11, 2008, 03:04:56 PM
Yup, the middle tower should go, keep the other two. Maybe have some parking in the middle or just open grass for kids to play?


Anyway, great job so far on West End. The region is growing quite nicely, it seems.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on February 16, 2008, 11:06:22 AM
REPLIES:

Well, the vote seemed reasonably popular - thanks for taking part.  See below for details of the result:

Bat:  thanks for the comment and you're welcome re the name.  You are a constant visitor and supporter, it was the least I could do!

Nedalezz:  Thanks for the advice re "junk".  I have a few "filler lots" that I will try to remember to use more often :thumbsup:

Joan:  Thanks for your comments re industrials.  No-one has said I'm doing much "wrong" but I do feel they're the area where I have most room for improvement.  Glad you liked Mousie Park.  As for the RODA JC in the football stadium - Sebes has already said, it's the stadium of Dutch side Roda.  Here's a link to Oppie's fantastic stadium BAT if you're interested:  http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=2688

Bokrif:  Thanks - short and sweet!

Sebes:  LOL, Since you've been visiting West End, I have kind of figured out you have a sense of humour  :D, so I thought if there's anyone I can say such terrible things about and they'll laugh, it'll be Sebes!  The red busses seem to spawn in some unexpected places - but they're just so English I've got to keep them.  I'll seek opinions about another footie tournament, maybe in May as it'll be 6 months since the last.

Dave:  Thanks for the comments and glad to see that Balnavia now has some custom fences!

Capo:  We have similar download tastes eh?  Well, great minds think alike! ;)!  Can't wait to see all your downloads in the new Biroud!

Dustin:  Well, you are a regular visitor so it was only right you had something named - and you are THE statitician!  And red cards, ouch!

Pat:  Good to see you again and thanks for taking part in the vote.

Tea Cat:  Hey, good to see you and thanks for the cuppa and doughnut  :P YUM.

Shadow Assassin:  Good to see you here again and thanks for your suggestion - see below.


UPDATE 22 - 16th February 2008

The results of the vote were........3-3.  It's a tie.  So in the spirit of compromise, and also, based upon the comments you made, I decided to knock down the middle tower and keep the other two.....like this.

22.01  Before
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22.02  Going, going
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22.03  Gone
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I decided that one of the towers on the other side of the road had to go as well.  Trouble is, after I demolished one, the other "upgraded", 'doh, I'd forgotten to make it historical!


22.04  After
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This is what the area looks like now.  Somewhere to park and somewhere to play.

Hope you all like the results.  I plan to release a fuller update tomorrow - transportation and commercials.

'til next time.............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on February 16, 2008, 12:01:48 PM
I do indeed like the results  &apls
looks much better now - not so cluttered well done :thumbsup:

:satisfied:
TTc
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on February 16, 2008, 01:13:55 PM
Oh, yes, yes, yes! :thumbsup:
I'm glad you didn't get too dynamite happy all at once -- you definitely made the right choice. The park fits in perfectly and the smaller buildings that grew next door look really good.

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on February 16, 2008, 01:48:17 PM
I love the result of the big kaboom Paul. But 1500 Westenders homeless now... that is something else of course. Where will you park those poor people? Hope not in the stadium???
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on February 17, 2008, 12:12:25 AM
Hehe, I've missed my dose of destruction since Bliss was retired  :D

That does look a lot better Paul. Can't wait for the fuller update.

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on February 17, 2008, 12:47:22 AM
REPLIES:

Tea Cat:  Thanks, clutter is sometimes one of my problems, both in SC4 and RL ;)

JoanMouse:  Glad you like it.  And here's next time.....

Sebes:  Wardour does seem to have a surplus of Big Issue sellers at the moment!  Don't worry, the population is now up at 61,00 (more than I intended), so there are plenty of houses in the leafy parts.

Tooheys:  Ah Bliss - yes destruction was always well done in Bliss :bomb:.  And you didn't have to wait long for the fuller update!


UPDATE 23:  17th February 2008


The last update was only a small one - more to do with RL logistics than anything else :-[

Today is Transportation and Commercials.......

23.01  Transport Overview:
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Blue = Motorway  with junctions in Red
Orange = Main Boulevard/Avenue
Black = Railway with stations in Yellow.

The centre of Wardour is along the Main Boulevard, stretching north to the motorway and south to the railway.
There is no GLR, subway or El-Rail in Wardour.  The railway is used mainly by people commuting eastwards into the larger cities of Great Portland and Oxford (still to be re-built).
There are plenty of busses in Wardour.

Let's focus on the main motorway junctions.  We'll travel from the west heading eastwards......

23.02  West Junction:
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This is a busy junction where the Main Boulevard ends.  To the north east is a large sprawling low density development.  Plenty of drivers from that development join the motorway here when leaving town.  I really need to start using some diagonal buildings though ()what()
This style junction is seen quite a bit on some of the older motorways in the UK.


23.03  Dunrose Junction (Central):
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Similar style junction to the West Junction.  Traffic leaves and then uses the roundabout.
This junction serves the city centre and also the low density developments to the north.
I don't often see those concrete planters used alongside sunken highways - I thought they made a nice change.


23.04  East Junction:
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This is an important interchange, particularly for drivers heading into town from the east.  They can come off the motorway and onto the Main Boulevard without having to use single lane roads. 
This junction also serves the football stadium and southern industrial parks.


23.05  Maxis Junction:
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This old style Maxis Junction is still so very useful for those places where space is at a premium!
This junction serves the central industrial park and also some of the housing developments near to the centre of town.


23.06  River Junction:
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This is a restricted access junction, only serving one side of the motorway.  It's main purpose is for access to and from the developments along the riverside.
You can also see the bridge over the River of Qumma.


Let's move on to the Railways now.....


23.07  Wardour Corrigan Station:
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This station serves the residential area of Wardour known as Corrigan.  You'll see it only serves two of the four tracks.  Express services use the north tracks (in my mind ;)) and do not stop at Corrigan.  This is very much a station for local and feeder services.


23.08  Wardour Central Station:
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The Main Boulevard is to the right of the picture.  Busses serve both sides of the station.  Parking is down at the same level of the stations.
I'm a bit annoyed that one commercial square didn't develop &mmm


23.09  Wardour Pelham Park Station - Before:
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23.10  And After:
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Now don't get me wrong, I think the Dora Bay building is a great Bat.  All that shining steel and glass looks magnificent........but just not there!  When I saw that had grown on that spot I knew it had to go, no need for a vote this time :bomb: :bomb: :bomb:
Pelham Park is a busy commuter station to the north of the centre.  Plenty of car parking available at the station.  Busses serve both sides and the small commercials do a good trade.  The two pubs in the top of the picture are popular with commuters on their way home.


23.11  Twin Rail Bridges over the River of Qumma.
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The title says it all!


Let's now move on to the main commercials in Wardour.........

23.12  Dunrose Union Crossing:
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Thanks to Joan for the name of this central commercial development.  The market is a busy and thriving place.  The Dunrose Tower looms over the city centre and is perhaps the most famous land mark in Wardour.


23.13  South Side Commercials:
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The Borough Council decided that the area immediately to the south of the railway needed some commercial development to give it some life.  This small plaza was the original piece of that plan, but the commercials along the road have actually done better.  Two more pubs can be seen, suggesting that Wardourians like to have a pint (or three :D).
To the north of the railway you can see 5 key cutting shops, suggesting that Wardourians drink too much and then lose their keys when drunk.  Just as well the "odd shop out" is the Java Hut Coffee Shop as they can have a strong espresso to help sober up ()sad()
(Oh, and I know the red and white small tower does look a little odd there but it's the first time it's grown in any of my cities - and I like it).


23.14  Main Boulevard:
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This picture is taken near the Central Station.  You can see a good selection of offices have sprung up along the Boulevard.


23.15  Diagonals!:
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My first use of diagonals!!!!  I really need to download some more. &idea
I like the building loads - and thought the ped mall plaza worked well with it, do you agree?


Well, that's the end of today's tour.  Wardour is zoned as much as it's going to be now.  Population is at 61,000 (I was planning on 50,000).  Some small low density zones have yet to grow, so I'll let the game run for a bit to see if they will develop.  I just need to decide on which tile to develop next.  My choices are:
Piccadilly - an undeveloped tile that will be a large high density commercial district.
Broadwick - near to Piccadilly and will be a "mid town" kind of place with plenty of apartments and mid sized commercials.
Carnaby - site of the new International Airport
Oxford - The capital needs to be re-built after my city locking up problem.
As always, I welcome your input.

Before then, there will be one more update from Wardour focussing on the residential areas.  I do feel that the low density suburbs of Wardour are the best I've ever built.  I hope you enjoy them, as a teaser for next time, here's a picture I entered into the competition.  It won one round and then came up against one of Cockatoo's great photoshopped pictures!

23.16  Suburban Dreams:
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'til next time........... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on February 17, 2008, 02:18:23 AM
Wardour is a very interesting city! I had no idea how busy and sparkling the town center would be! The Dunrose tower looks a bit out of place considering how sleepy and dull the town is where the real version is (Emmeloord (http://lh3.google.com/_Sgr5LcaT9Mw/Rs3nRAmZ9WI/AAAAAAAAEgA/mHub2uFqbLs/s800/75-a.jpg)). So good that you make this nice tower the landmark of a more sparkling city Paul :thumbsup:. 
I also like the variety in roundabout that you have in this town - especially the one near Wardour Central Station fits very well with the surrounding buildings!
Looking at the East Junction picture I realized in shock that the trucks take the wrong lane entering the highway, realizing only now that Westend is a left-hand driving nation.... Of course I could have noticed if I had a closer look at the arrows and cars on the streets before, but somehow I was feeling so 'at home' in your MD that I never realized it before...  ::)

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on February 17, 2008, 02:20:41 AM
The result on the middle towers is looking really nice, paroch!!

The update is wonderful! Like the Wardour Central Station - area! The others are looking good, too! :thumbsup:

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on February 17, 2008, 03:17:26 AM
wow fantastic update  :o

it is really splendid, your river is very quite carried out! many details are taken into account, one can only like  $%Grinno$%
the sight area with this countryside is superb !

If I can allow myself on the 11eme images, or have to be this lays?

I thank you in advance and good continuation .
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on February 17, 2008, 10:44:14 AM
You've been really busy working on transport routes, haven't you Paul! That's one of my many weaknesses, but you have created some really impressive intersections. While all are good, the first one (23.02) is really a standout IMO.

I like your use of mid-rise buildings, too. As a native of Houston and later living within shopping distance of Dallas, I got my fill of skyscrapers. Even so, it's too bad about the Dora Bay Building -- I like the looks of it, but you are right about the inopportune location. Maybe it'll pop up somewhere else.

Dunrose Union Crossing (23.12) turned out great, and I'm honored to have had the privilege of naming it. 23.14 is an excellent example of commercial development, too.

Of course, now you have me hankering for a better look at the residentials. Knowing you, they are very much in keeping with the rest of the city, so I'm really looking forward to seeing them.

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on February 17, 2008, 03:35:49 PM
The highway system looks fantastic, and I liked what you did with the Industrial zones. It seems you are using a bit of fillers between factories, giving a more realistic look. They look great!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on February 17, 2008, 04:22:29 PM
Ohh very nice indeed.  &apls
I like the way everything integrates so well. there is a logic to it all and it blends seemlessly - well done.

The double bridge look good - musta taken some time to get them identical yes I'm impressed :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

:satisfied:
TTC

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on February 19, 2008, 12:19:36 PM
Really nice job.
Though:
a; the diagonal buildings will sure help! :P
b; you should change that double rail bridge, where the the central part is missing. It looks bad. I know, it is the problem of the lot, but still, looks bad.
I repeat, really nice job, you 've done Paroch! :)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: squidi on February 21, 2008, 02:44:28 AM
i love the the overview from the last update it looks absolutly perfect
the slope from 23.13 is also something what catched my eyes and i also like your last picture alot with all the trees and the soccerfield
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on February 23, 2008, 04:38:21 AM
REPLIES:

Sebes:  Thanks for the link to the pic of the Emmeloord tower.  It's funny, the RL pic looks as though it could have been taken in one of Wardour's suburbs, with Jeronij's side street modd!  I like your description of Wardour being "sparkling".  And the UK version of SC4 defaults to left hand drive, so I've just stuck with it.  Glad you feel "at home" here - you're one of West End's frequent visitors and ALWAYS welcome :thumbsup:

Bat:  Thank you for those words and your support.

Warconstruct: Thanks for that.  I'm not sure of your question about the bridges in picture 11.  I created these by using the "rain tool" and then dragging the bridge over the "rain area".  There is a great tutorial on this somewhere, if you would like a link to it please say and I will look for it for you.

Joan: Yes, I actually planned out the main roads and rails in advance this time (too often I make it up as I go along).  Glad you liked the junctions and of course the Dunrose Union Crossing.  Wardour is complete now, so Dora Bay will have to wait for somewhere else  &mmm

Nedalezz: Indeed, a few more fillers make a big difference - thanks for noticing! :)

Tea Cat:  Cheers for the compliment.  As for the double bridge - I had twin rails, so had to put two bridges in.  I would have liked them side by side but I don't think the game allows you to do this, so the one tile gap was the compromise. 

Bokrif:
  Good to see you here again.  Yes, I really need to tidy up my landmarks menu so that I can find those diagonals!  And I know what you mean about the rail bridges.  I think it's the lack of supports underneath the bridge that make them look a little odd.

Squidi:  Welcome to West End  $%Grinno$%, I think this is your first visit.  And thank you for such great words.


UPDATE 24 - 23rd February 2008

OK, this is our last visit to Wardour.  The quad is now completed  ;D.  The original Wardour had a population of 49,000.  The new Wardour has 61,000 sims, so it's a bit bigger than before.  But it is also more rural, with plenty of farms in the valley and a lot of trees up on the hills.  Some industrial parks provide plenty of jobs and there is some commercial activity in the town as well.  But Wardour is really a commuter town, where most residents travel outside of the town to their jobs in Great Portland, Regent and Oxford.

The final update will give you some overviews and then look at some of the residentials:

24.01  Wardour Overview:
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With hidsight, maybe I should have put the river a bit more to the centre of the tile and built the centre of the town along the river banks.  But overall, I am pleased with the result.


24.02  Traffic Congestion:
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Traffic is flowing freely on all of the major routes.  Some side streets are a bit busy, but nothing disastrous.


24.03  Crime Data:
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Crime is often one of my weak points.  I focus on building the city, then afterwards remember that I really should have placed some police stations!  Still, nothing too bad here.


24.04  Low Wealth Rules:
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Here is the graph that shows what wealth levels are in the city.  R$ is the top line, R$$ the middle and very few R$$$ residents here in Wardour!


OK, now let's look at some of the residential areas.  I have to admit, that the Jeronij Street Side Mod has made a big difference and I think that here in Wardour are the best low rise suburbs I've ever created.

24.05  Woodville:
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This was the first housing development in Wardour and is made up exclusively of Jen_P's Woodville homes.


24.06  Riverside:
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This development still has some Jen_P Woodvilles, but also some MattB Belmont series, plus a few other lots from Gascooker, RP and Haarlemgold (apologies to anyone I've missed).


24.07  East Central:
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This development is sandwiched between the Motorway and the Main Boulevard.  Just to the east of the centre and opposite the football stadium.


24.08  South Side:
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Another medium density residential zone.  This is on the south side of town, near one of the large high schools.


24.09  Jebel Road:
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Jebel Road is north of the motorway and runs from left to right.  It has a collection of medium density residentials, with the low density homes tucked away behind them on side streets.  This little housing development is just what I was trying to create here.  A small oasis of calm just off a busy thoroughfare.


24.10  More South Side:
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Another development on the south side.  If you look carefully, you will see that as you drive into the development they are zoned 1x1 ox 1x2 lots but as you drive deeper into the development there are more 2x2 lots for the wealthier sims.  The yellow/creamy coloured house crops up a lot but I think adds something to the development as a whole.  It's a building from haarlemgold.  I really want to find some time to download all of his stuff from the STEX.  I have a lot already, but want the rest :D


24.11  Corrigan North
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A similar mix of houses.  Local amenities include Mousie Park, the library and the bingo hall.


24.12  Edge of Town:
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Here's a small development on the edge of town.  It's on a bit of a hill and I really enjoyed looking at the different building and seeing how the slope is handled by them differently.  Some are more slope friendly than others, but I still like the overall look.


24.13  Low Rise, Low Density, Low Wealth:
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This is a development made up of custom lots I created using RP's 6House Row.  It has a certain 1960's/1970's UK council estate look about it.  I entered this in the picture competition.  It didn't win :(


OK, that gives you an idea of the different residential areas in Wardour.  Just a couple of other things to show you......

24.14  The Jail:
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This is where all those bad sims end up!  There have been some pretty gruesome guards versus inmates matches on that pitch!


24.15  Sports Complex and Shopping Mall:
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Right on the eastern edge of town is the Wardour Mall and the Zamora Sports Centre.  You can also see there is still some undeveloped zones on this side of town.


Right, let's wrap this up with some final overviews:

24.16  Wardour, Central, West and South:
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You can also see a small village was zoned up in the hills - but it has not developed!


24.16  Wardour East, North and The River of Qumma:
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Plenty of farming in the valley plus the village of Norvaney.  You can also see the two waste to energy plants that keep the city tidy and produce most of its electricity.


24.17  Region View:
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This is not the whole region, but gives you a feel for where Wardour sits.  I think I'll complete Shaftesbury next before deciding on the next quad to attack.  You also need to remember that Great Portland and Regent are "dead" quads that cannot be opened.  Great Portland will definitely need to be redeveloped at some stage.

I hope you've enjoyed Wardour as much as I have.

'til next time.......... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: squidi on February 23, 2008, 04:51:49 AM
very nice city paul!
it seems your bad sims have it very easy  :D
imo there are not enough custom police stations created (or i havnt found them)
the jail looks much better with the surrounding than the default one
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nardo69 on February 23, 2008, 05:13:14 AM
Nice update!
I like such details as the embankment at the river and the pedestrian overpass at the highway!

About the picture, well, don't worry. I gave up to understand how a picture gets into the HoF and how not - whenI think it's a special one IMHO I'll give it a try. And as I PM'ed you before, if I vote against a great railway pic your picture IS a good one!  :thumbsup:

A hint: for such large open rural areas I like to plop the Marrast Sheriff'S office (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=16752Marrast%20Sheriff'S%20office) - with its extremely large coverage radius it is a econimocally solutions for maps with only so much inhabitants ...  ;)

Take care my friend!

Bernhard 
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on February 23, 2008, 05:34:15 AM
Great update there! And wonderful work on that city! And like the region (over)view! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on February 23, 2008, 06:52:02 AM
Wardour is now looks even more perfect!
This is not a critic, but next time could you show something new? I am not bored, I am just interested in more of your work and variations.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on February 23, 2008, 10:32:08 AM
Paul I loved that jail and also that Sports Complex WOW.... Did you do those yourself? Plan on sharing hint hint lol....  Great UPdates here and wonderful progress.......
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on February 23, 2008, 03:58:50 PM
Oh Paul, here's everything I've ever wanted in an update! Overviews, data views (are you awake, Dave!) and loverly photos! :thumbsup:

The Woodville neighborhood looks great, and so do all the rest, but the way you've given each of them a different personality is really impressive. That couldn't have been easy to accomplish! :o

24.11  Corrigan North looks great (OK, I'm partial!), and even though 24.08  South Side doesn't have the type of residential structures I'm used to seeing, I think it's very charming.

I like the way you've designed the jail
- a few shade trees but not too many hiding places. As a reporter I used to visit a correctional facility in Texas occasionally, and your layout is pretty much spot on. The 24.15  Sports Complex and Shopping Mall is well done as well.

Overall, this is one of your best updates -- well planned and beautifully showcased! &apls

Until March 12...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on February 23, 2008, 04:28:06 PM
Your focus on details, especially with the schools and jails, is really incredible. Its the little things that make our cities that much better, and you certainly have an eye for detail. Even though its not complete, the region shot looks great.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on February 27, 2008, 12:58:52 AM
QuoteOh Paul, here's everything I've ever wanted in an update! Overviews, data views (are you awake, Dave!) and loverly photos!

Look likes somebody has someone wrapped around their little finger  :D

I must agree with Joan though, that is a fine update.  :thumbsup:

I really like the first pic of the residential area. In fact all of your residential areas look great and are nicely varied.

To add to Nardo's suggestion, PEG's MTP set has police, fire, hospital, and school which also fit nicely into rural areas. They are small lots and unobtrusive.

Cheers

Dave





Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Earth quake on February 27, 2008, 01:30:46 AM
Splendid update. &apls
You really have the sense of detail.
Excellent.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on February 27, 2008, 10:52:02 AM
-first of all thank you to have taken time to answer has my question, because me in moment I do not have myself it too much.

For the bond do not be born yourself from refusal, and I think that it will be very useful for me if I count modified one lays has my own way. Then thank you very much  :thumbsup:

- secondly your city is quite simply splendid !
I like much these details like the district of the prison and the sporting district in north .
Your river is very well make !

- thirdly the sights general are superb! especially your countryside which ventilated
and is well separated by the vegetation  . Which gives one made very realistic !  &apls &apls


After having seen your I work had a very particular envi to launch SC4 and of living our passion which is this play .

Impatient to see the continuation !

Paul 
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on February 29, 2008, 01:35:23 PM
REPLIES:

Squidi/Paul: haha :D, yes the prison does not look too tough does it!  As for custom police stations.... Hmmm, not too many - my favourite is MattB325's Bathurst Police Station: linkie (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1358)
And the funny thing is - I thought the jail is the default one - it's the only one in my menu!

Nardo/Berhard:  Thanks for the comment, and yes sometimes I concentrate too much on details and leave the "big picture" to chance!  Thanks for the link to Marrast's sherrifs station - have it now. :thumbsup:

Bat:  Hey, glad you like the overview

Bokrif/Krisztian:  Thanks for the comment, and don't worry, I know what you mean.  I was thinking that I need to do something new.  I've not had much SC4 "play-time" this week, so only a small update.  I am really struggling to decide what to do next!

Pat:  hey, thanks.  Well, the jail.... I really thought this was the default jail  ()what(), as it's the only one in my menu - and looking through my plugins I can't see anything obvious!!  The football pitch with changing and small farm field are custom lots.  As for the sports centre.... Here's Deadwoods indoor sports centre  linkie (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=492) , for the main building. The football pitch with the changing room is the same one as the prison and the running track with the pitch in the middle is also a custom lot.  I'll try and put a pack together and see if I can get it LEX'd!  If you'd like a snaek preview, PM me your email address - with your BLaM experience you'll probably find plenty wrong with them!

Jmouse/Joan:  Hehehe ;D, I take it you like the content of this update then!  As for the different looks..... Woodville took a little bulldozing and ALOT of making historical.  The 6House Row lots are custom lots 5x4, so relatively easy to zone for.  The others just took a little bit of luck and a whole lot of bulldozing!
Thanks for such encouraging comments.  Oh, and by the way, I've taken a leaf from Dustin's book and drawn up some West End stats.  It's official, you are West End's most rugular visitor - this is your 51st visit to West End - I'm sure that is worthy of some kind of award!  I'll have to dream one up %$payas)(.

Nedalezz:  Thanks for those words.  I guess I do enjoy the little details and am slowly doing more of my own custom lots.  And the region still has plenty of room to grow into!

Tooheys/Dave:  Wrapped around a little finger?  Me??  LOL.  Thanks for the comments and the suggestion re PEGs lots.  When I lost my "big 4" cities, one of the variables in what may have caused the problem was the MTP pack, so I've been reluctant to use it again.  Probably irrational, so maybe I'll go and have another go.

Earth quake:  Welcome to West End - good to have you here and thanks for your comments.

Warconstruct/Paul:  Thanks for your support and your comments.  I am happy that seeing West End made you want to play the game.



UPDATE 25:  29th February 2008

As I said above, have not had much SC4 "play-time" this week and also suffered from a bit of a block on what to do next  ()what() %confuso ()what().  I had a medium sized quad called Shaftesbury that needed finishing off, so thought I'd do that.  To be honest, there's nothing particularly special about Shaftesbury, so only a few pics this time.

A small bit of London facts:
My city of Shaftesbury takes its name from Shaftesbury Avenue in London's West End.  Arguably it is the heart of "Theatreland" in London, with many of the top theatres either on the avenue itself or very close by.  Shaftesbury Avenue runs from the busy Piccadilly Circus, through China Town, across Cambridge Circus and then towards Covent Garden.  It has a mix of retail, restaurants, offices and of course theatres.  Soho fire station is situated on Shaftesbury Avenue.  It really is a hive of activity.

And back to West End's Shaftesbury, a town of 21,900 sims......

25.01  Shaftesbury Orientation:
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This is where Shaftesbury is located in respect of the West End region.  I'd normally cut out the buttons but thought the population figure may interest.....


25.02  Shaftesbury Overview:
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As you can see, the canal is the main feature in Shaftesbury.  The railway runs pretty much parallel to the canal.  You can see the town centre is a bit more built up than another sprawling low rise suburb.  Surrounded by farm land, it's a pleasant place to live.


25.03  Junction:
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Another junction that does actually make sense if you look at it carefully.  But I know this would just drive Americans crazy.  I have an American client who has just moved to London and he says that the English love of roundabouts is driving him crazy - apparently it makes it much harder to keep a sense of direction!  My argument is that we grow up with them, so develop fantastic senses of direction!


25.04  The IPON School:
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This civic complex next to the canal on the western edge of town has a fire station plus a police station and school that are in identical buildings which has caused some confusion over the years!  The school is called the IPON School and has a speciality on foreign studies as it has a teacher from each country that makes up IPON.  The newly adopted IPON flag flies proudly next to the school.  And thanks to Tooheys for his tennis court lot (I could not get that fence to appear properly!)


25.05  Town Centre:
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Yes, that really is the extent of commercial activity in Shaftesbury - it really is a sleepy place!


25.06  A Picture for Bernhard:
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With his love of all things train related, I thought Bernhard would like this pic.  Two trains passing on a level crossing.  If you look carefully you'll notice that the trains have the same carriages but different engines, cool eh?  And if you look really carefully you'll see that in West End we drive on the left hand side of the road, but the level crossing barriers and road markings are set up for right hand driving, weird eh?
And this picture was just one of those lucky times when you get multiple trains in shot.  Oh, and more tennis courts from toohey's custom lot collection - thanks Dave.


Well, much like when creating industrial areas we use "filler lots", Shaftesbury is a bit of a "filler quad", so that's it - a short and sweet visit to a small but sweet little town.

Now, what shall I do next??????

'til next time.................. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on February 29, 2008, 01:49:00 PM
"just a filler quad" ...  I love it!

I am not an American - and have a great sense for directions - but hate roundabouts as well. It seems like they are subsidized or so because almost every crossing with more than 5 cars per minute is changed into a roundabout the last days... it's driving me nuts  ?=mad)=

This city has something very special I noticed: the Northeast corner has a difffernent seasonality than the rest of town.  :P

QuoteAnd if you look really carefully you'll see that in West End we drive on the left hand side of the road, but the level crossing barriers and road markings are set up for right hand driving, weird eh?
See - I am not crazy $%Grinno$% : your cars drive on the wrong side!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on February 29, 2008, 03:14:31 PM
I love Wardour and Cavendish, and Shaftesbury fits nicely between them.

Canals are one of the many elements I've never used simply because they aren't in my visual vocabulary. You've made good use of them, though.

And you're right, that junction in 25.03 makes no sense to me at all! :D You have drivers either exiting a highway or coming off an overpass and immediately encountering a merry-go-round - "...where she stops nobody knows!" As for your client, maybe it would help if you tell him the roundabouts are actually banjos and banjos are fun! ;D If I ever visit the UK, though, I'll be sure to bring enough money for bus or taxi fare.

The civic area looks good
as does the town centre. The dead end in front of the city hall (I think that's what it is?), is a bit troublesome, but once again, it's something I'm not used to seeing.

And 25.06 is awesome - I never could get a single train to show up, much less two! :thumbsup: And those are some nice tennis courts you have there. Did they come with any traffic data?

And it doesn't surprise me that I'm your most talkative visitor and most loyal fan! West End has passed the half-million mark but it's still a great place to hang out!

Until next time...
Joan

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on March 01, 2008, 02:46:41 AM
Fantastic new pictures and overviews there! Like the junction! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on March 01, 2008, 03:08:22 AM
Still a splendid update, thank you to make us divided your good works  &apls &apls

-It is true that me also I never liked these channels of Peg too much but you have make an excellent use which I like much!

-Your network lorry drivers is well thought with many round not which can reduce the accident  $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Finally to finish as usual I am in a hurry to see the next update my friend  ;)

A + Paul
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Earth quake on March 01, 2008, 04:07:19 AM
It is simply a splendid series of pictures. &apls
The town centre is really made well.
I really do not know what to say about other one.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on March 01, 2008, 04:38:31 PM
I missed some updates and I see new great cities!  :thumbsup:

I agree with Joan, 25.06 is awesome, but I love 25.02 too!  &apls
The city centre is very diversified and well composed, and rural areas are beautiful. And the region view looks very realistic in it's developed part.
It's a pleasure to visit your MD  :)

Adam  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on March 01, 2008, 08:02:17 PM
Paul wonderful Update here and about that Jail, so you just placed those lots together to create that complex? WOW!!!  I love the devolpment of the Canal...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on March 02, 2008, 01:33:40 AM
Hi Paul

Nice region shot and I see you are planning ahead. Looks like you have some interesting areas to work with going forward.

Shaftesbury is looking fine and I like the overview.  :thumbsup: Hey, even the hwy is almost flat :P Nice use of the canals,
although wouldn't it be great to have a diagonal lot.

The closeups along the canal are nicely done, you do put together a nice suburban area. Of course those tennis courts help  ::)
The two trains at the crossing in the last pic, beautiful and I would suggest you waited a while for that to happen.

Another great update Paul

Dave



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on March 02, 2008, 08:30:12 AM
Paul, that is an awesome update. When I asked for a little more variety I meant this.
Shaftsbury looks cool and I see you didn't forget about the little things hence it is a "quad" tile. ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nardo69 on March 08, 2008, 09:20:55 AM
Just got your pm ... ;)

Nice overview, but isn't it a pity that there are only diagonal pieces for oppie's Kanal and not for Simgoober's or PEG's? They would become handy so often. I like oppie's kanal buts it style doesn't fit into rural or industrial ...

Well, you know that I don't like level crossings, do you? But unless the railway line is not a high speed main line with maximum speed >= 160 km / h I can tolerate that one! (I guess I should bring my Thoughts - thread to SC4D ... )
And apicture dedicated to me - wow ...  &blush

In 25.05 you might try these underpasses (http://kurier.simcityplaza.de/details.php?file=105) here. The site is German but the files are multilingual. Stays just the problem that I do not know if they have left-hand pathes or not ...  ()what()

Take care my friend (and don't forget to make backups!)
   
Bernhard  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Heblem on March 08, 2008, 04:36:12 PM
Nice pictures, I really like how the cars goes is the right direction  ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on March 09, 2008, 03:57:46 AM
It seems that many MDs I visit have recently passed their one year anniversary.  Well, West End still has some way to go, but it has now passed the 6 months stage!  So it's a kind of mini mile stone, one that I'm sure many MD'ers wonder if they'll make but are pleased to reach. 

REPLIES:

Sebes:  Filler Quad  ;) - well, you know what I mean.  And congrats on spotting the seasons glitch!  Basically I used seasonal trees in one part and non-seasonals in the other - what a goof  %wrd
I am sure our debate about left side driving will continue!!  I tell you, us Brits just like to be different!

Jmouse/Joan:  Thanks Joan, great comments.  But banjos are dead ends, whereas roundabout actually lead somewhere, so if I'd put banjos next to the highway then that really would have caused confusion - do you follow  :D
The dead end in front of the town hall was because I forgot to extend the railway across the quad.  So after it was developed I had to smash the railway through the middle of town which required some serious re-working.  Some was more noticeable than others!

Bat:  Thanks as always my friend.

Warconstruct:  Well, if you liked the PEG channels in Shaftesbury, I think you may be interested in what's next!

Earth quake:  Hey, thank you.

Ennedi/Adam:  Welcome back!  Good to see you and thanks for the encouraging words  :P

Pat:  Cheers mate.  And yes the jail was just a series of bits and pieces.  I have done something similar with a nuclear power plant.  I'll try and find it for a future update.  More canals to follow.

Tooheys/Dave:  Almost flat - but not quite!  I've done some extensive levelling on my next quad - We shipped in a boat load of Balnavians to do the work!  Yeah, those tennis courts are proving popular in West End.  People actually spend more time hitting the ball instead of running after them  ;D

BoKrif/Krizstian:  I'm please you liked this.  It is hard to think of new things to show each time, so I appreciate your comments.

Nardo69/Bernhard:  Diagonal canals, hmmmmmm, maybe one day!  And no, I didn't realise you had an aversion to level crossings.  I generally try to avoid them, but due to my bad planning on this quad, I had little choice.  But, the crossing is not too far from the station, so trains tend to be slowing down, or only just building up speed.  I dedicated the picture for you because I know you love a train picture, and two passing on a crossing?  It doesn't happen often!
Thanks for the link. :thumbsup:

Heblem:  Thanks and yes in England our cars always go in the right direction (just ask Sebes) ;)


UPDATE 26 - 9th March 2008


Project Kingly Amsterdam

Only a small teaser I am afraid.

My next quad is Kingly.  This is the most western part of West End to be developed so far.  I was thinking about how I can do something different and not just produce more low rise suburbs!  The city of Regent had a development called Little Amsterdam that proved to be popular.  Well, since then Regent got corrupted, I've downloaded loads more Dutch buildings, so thought I'd try to do my version of Amsterdam.  I guess I'd say this is not a true copy, more an "inspired by Amsterdam" city.

First, I need to tell you that the canal system is based on the real thing and it took about 6 hours to lay (and it is not yet completed).  Secondly, my plugins for Residential and Commercial have been cleared out of everything except those by Haarlemgold and Vanderaap.  Some buildings that are both I and C have crept in.  I may add MattB's W2W commercials soon as they would fit in.  More may be added later.
And finally I have to thank Sebes who has given me some pointers as he lives in Amsterdam and Joan and Dave for giving me some hints and tips behind the scenes.

There is still much to develop, so only some teasers at this stage:

26.01  Kingly Orientation:
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I know that I will also need to develop parts of the tiles next door to help with demand - already getting the dreaded "no job zots".


26.02  Amsterdam Canal Layout:
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Look at all those canals.  If you've not been, then you're missing out - it really is a FABULOUS city.  The sqareness of SC4 means that I have some restrictions.  I've also squashed the system in places to make it all fit.


26.03  Kingy Canal Layout:
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Six hours that took!  I have changed the rail in the top left.  Also the bottom left part of the canal system has also been amended.


26.04  Central Station:
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What a magnificent BAT!  I've continued to use the Dockland Light Rail tram mod.  If anyone knows of a more realistic Amsterdam one, just shout.
Plopping that GLR alone took a long time - so many crashes to desktop - but I think I've worked it out now.  If you move a GLR puzzle piece over the Tonkso GLR station it crashes.  Solution - plop the stations last!


26.05  Oudezuds Achterburgwal and Voorburgwal
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This is the heart of the Red Light District.  The modern tower needs to be bulldozed!  But hopefully this gives you a flavour for more of Project Kingly Amsterdam.

Criticism of the layout / building choice is only allowed from the Dutch  ;) ;) :D

Seriously, all comments welcomed, as always

'til next time.......... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on March 09, 2008, 05:39:46 AM
Looking really nice so far! Great work on Kingly Amsterdam! And nice use of these canals!

Looking forward to the update!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on March 09, 2008, 07:52:28 AM
Paul - great pictures. The layout of the canals is very good, given the limitations of SC4! I can easily believe that it took you 6 hours to lay this out, but you can be proud of the result.

The textures of the pedmalls does not realy match to the real Amsterdam. But as your former Little Amsterdam (in Regent) was established by Dutch emigrants, I guess this town will be as well, and the emigrants had of course to use the local available materials to build their streettiles  ;)  I like it a lot that you use the same texture in the entire town, also  with the GLR tracks. 

By the way: Vester made some Amsterdam Trams. They are part of his GLR tram mod and can be found here (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=55).

I like the map that you have.... You might be interested in this map (http://www.amsterdamhashmap.com/) as well..  You can zoom in and switch from map to satelite view.

Looking forward to the rest of Little Amsterdam in Kingly!

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on March 09, 2008, 10:46:20 AM
I prefer PEG's canal lots, however I suggest you to have a look at the new remodelled SImGoober canals. They look extremely realistic - IMHO.
Anyway, nice start.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on March 09, 2008, 11:06:14 AM
very good start my friend ! I am of agreement with you that Amsterdam is really a fabulous city !
The channels are quite selected it make well "industrial" , because one should not forgotten to pass it from this city, even if yours comes from immigrant  $%Grinno$%

Beat of German type they are not which it thus misses you will be able to make of large thing !

without waiting more I tell you good continuation  ;)

Paul / Warconstruct





Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Earth quake on March 09, 2008, 01:13:54 PM
Excellent.
I am impatient of to see other pictures.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on March 09, 2008, 02:47:43 PM
Lookin' really good, Paul! :thumbsup:

I'm not going to make any more remarks about the details in Amsterdam, (you know what I mean, don't you! :D) but must say you're making remarkable progress on a layout that is no doubt a formidable challenge. The train station looks great and so does the neighborhood. I love those BATs.

Also I noticed the power lines and honestly can't remember if you've used them in other cities or not. Maybe you have and I just didn't notice because you usually present areas that are more developed. I'm glad you've chosen to show Kingly this way, though. It's been a trip watching it grow from ground zero, and I'm sure your many other fans will enjoy it as well.

I'm looking forward to seeing
how you deal with the diagonal canal layouts (trees, parks, buildings, etc.). Do keep up the good work.

Until next time,,,
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on March 10, 2008, 03:07:42 AM
Looking good Paul  :thumbsup:

Nice work with the canals, and your your choice of residential lots really fits the theme in my opinion.

The rail station looks grand and the GLR fits in well.

Great teaser and can't wait for the next update.

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: rooker1 on March 10, 2008, 09:16:45 AM
Wow.........six hours on the canal.  You must have no more patience left.  But the end result looks pretty good.  This is what I thought you might be doing but I wasn't sure.  I can't wait to see the city when you have more work done on it.  Should look very good.

Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on March 15, 2008, 04:55:10 PM
REPLIES:

Bat:  Thanks - glad you like the canals.

Sebes:  Well, as an Amsterdammer, I have to listen to what you say.  Thanks for the link to the trams, I think you'll like the result.  And as for the ped malls......I chose those ones because they match with the GLR (and my market lots which will appear).  And whilst they may not match Amsterdam, the fact they all match each other and give a unifrom appearance, well that did it for me :). Thanks also for your pics of Dam Square and the link to that great map. :thumbsup:

Bokrif:  Thanks for the suggestion.  Not sure I have the stamina to change them all  :-[

Warconstruct:  Good to see you here again and thank you for yout kind words.

Earth quake:  Well, here are some more pictures.....

Jmouse:  Joan, thanks for the words.  Ahh, the power lines, yes they are there because it was very much "work in progress".  And yes, the diagonals are proving a challenge.

Tooheys:  Thanks Dave.  Here's the next instalment.

Rooker1:  Hi Robin.  Yes the canals were a bit fiddly.  And progress is quite slow in this city.


UPDATE 27:  16th March 2008


I was hoping to give an update sooner than this, but it has been slow work on Kingly Amsterdam.  I'm having severe demand problems at the moment.  This city is somewhat isolated in the region and as such, there are not enough jobs to go round.  So..... I'm having to do some development on the quads next door to stimulate the need for more houses.

Also, because I am concentrating more on creating a nice looking layout that is similar to Amsterdam, it means that the road layout is not at the most optimum for SC4 game needs.

Still, it's fun so far and today I want to concentrate on the areas near to the station:

27.01  Central Station (still developing):
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27.02  Centraal Station (Amsterdam):
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27.03 Central Station (Kingly):
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Here is the station updated.  Some more buildings have sprung up and most importantly, Vester's Amsterdam trams are now in use - and yes, they do fit sooooo much better than the Docklands Light Rail I was using before.

The plaza gets so busy in rush hours.  It really is quite interesting to sit and watch it.  I've had four trams and three trains in the pic at any one time, plus cars, buses and people milling around.

I've included two pics so you can see how it's developed further with parking now installed at the rear of the station.

I wish the ped malls looked a bit busier.  Does anyone know of a mod/lot that adds more pedestrians, or will I need to go and create some custom lots?


27.04 Prins Hendrikkade - east:
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A mixture of old warehouses and shops line this road opposite the station here in Kingly.  All the commercials are busy along here, as they get plenty of passing trade.  Behind the buildings you can see a busy part of the canal network.


27.05  Prins Hedrikkade by night:
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27.06  Prins Hendrikkade - west:
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This part of the road is opposite the station.  The trams heading to the west side of the city exit the station plaza, cross the main road and go between the two modern office buildings before winding their way through the streets.


27.07  Ousterdok - Kingly:
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The Oosterdok is the old dock in the heart of the city.  The station is to the left of this picture.  Here in Kingly it is home to many industrial units.  You can see that I'm still developing the area, with GLR stations to plop still.  And look how bad the pollution in the river is - urgh!
I like this picture because the avenue bridge is raised and a boat is in each of the locks.  These locks are the main entry and exit to the city canal system.


27.08  Ousterdok - Amsterdam:
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The hardest thing to recreate here was the water level.  Hence, why I've used locks and spillways.  Clearly, the real Oosterdok is at the same water level.  Also, the sheer size of the dock was hard to accomodate in my pre-terraformed tile.


27.09  Canal Locks:
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Here's a close up of the two main locks into the canal system.


27.10  Spillways:
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And here are four of the main spillways that are used to regulate water in the canal system.  This is just outside the central station, indeed that tram will be at the station is about 45 seconds!


27.11  Damrak - north:
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This pedestrianised road is the first place most tourists see when leaving the station plaza.  There's a good selection of tourist hotels and restaurants here to choose from.
In the canal / basin here, you'll find plenty of tour boats to take you around the city's canals.  Now.....if anyone can suggest a good Bat/Prop to use to create some tour boats, you'd be my hero!


27.12  Damrak views:
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A view out of a building looking across the ped-mall, tram and one-way road onto the canal basin, where the tour boats sit.  And a shot looking back towards the buildings.  In the background is the station.


27.12  Damrak - south:
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The trams run along Damrak from the station heading out to the southern parts of the city and also out towards the Leidseplein in the south west of the city.
Some nice shops can be found along here.  I've also put the city hall here.  I seem to recall some grand buildings where I put the city hall, but can't remember exactly what they were!


27.13  Dam Square - Amsterdam:
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One of the major squares/plazas in the city.  Trams skirt round the edge and there are some large buildings around the sqaure.

27.14  Dam Square - Kingly:
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And here's the Kingly version.  It was hard choosing a building to use as the monument and I have to thank Sebes for the suggestion - I think it's a close as I'll get.  I know the big tower next to the canal isn't really there, but I thought it fitted nicely.

I'm pleased with the pedestrianised shopping streets to the right of the square.

You may also notice that in addtion to Vanderaap and Haarlemgold's Bats, I've also added MattB's W2W commercial series.  I think they fit in well.


27.15  Nieuwendijk:
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This is a close up of one of the ped-mall shopping streets.  Maybe a bit too much repetition - this is a busy shopping street:


27.16  Nieuwendijk on a busy day:
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And to finish off, lets have a look at one of the residential grachts, to the south west of the station - Herengracht.

27.17  Herengracht:
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27.18  Herengracht - Kingly:
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The cream/yellow buildings are not typically Dutch, but I still like them!  And the red London bus just reminds us that we are in West End, not Nederland!


Well, I hope you enjoyed the tour.  This was a slightly different update for me!  And there is so much more of Kingly to show you.  I have not decided on the next update yet, but it may feature:
- A tour of the canals
- The major tourist sights
- A trip along the GLR
- Focus on the Residentials

There is so much in Kingly I want to show you that each of these subjects could be an update on its own.  So, if you have a preference, let me know.

'til next time......... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on March 15, 2008, 06:41:20 PM
Massive update, Paul. No wonder it took a while to finish!
First of all, love the RL photos mixed in with the game shots. You lost me on the tram discussion  %confuso, but there is a "crowd" effect available - I'll look it up and PM the ID.

I like 27.07 despite the pollution - it's just something you have to put up with until certain game elements kick in. Anyway, the bridges look good, and you always get lucky with the boats and trains showing up at just the right time! I'm impressed by the locks - never seen that done before - and the spillways (27.10) look great, too. Nice water effects.

Damrak - South (27.12) is absolutely charming. One of these days, I hope I'll get to see some sights outside of the Deep South, USA! You made a good choice for the monument in Dam Square - Kingly (27.14), and it looks like you must already have the "crowd" effect - if not let me know.

Nieuwendijk (27.15) and Herengracht - Kingly (27.18) are beautiful neighborhoods, and judging from the RL photos you've posted, you have done a great job of creating them.

As for the choice of updates to come, I'd love to take a trip on the GLR to visit the tourist sights, see the canals and cruise through the residential areas. *saves the best for last! ;)*

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on March 16, 2008, 03:16:59 AM
 &apls &apls &apls &apls

I am at my mom's, celebrating her birthday, but between serving coffee and cakes I just had to look at Westend. I love what I see - splendid - marvelous - and all other superlatives would fit in at this place....

I cannot comment more now - but will be back, also to study your excellent shots in detail. One thing I  want to say now: the tram you picked is excellent!  The ped malls you used also: I like it even that you use a different one than the one that is used in most Dutch-like MD's.

Good job Paul  :thumbsup:


Continued: I am back from duty now, and did have a good look at some more details in this update. I really love what you did in the game Paul. The trams are fantastic! When I recommended Vesters tramskins in PM, I was convinced you'd take the authentic yellow tram, that I also had in mind. But your choice to pick the "new" blue & white ones is daring, and giving the MD an extra fresh element! I'd be interested in that crowd-mod too if someone knows it...

Your Prins Hendrikkades (both parts) are very nice. I can picture myself and my tram going between the two buildings towards the western part of town... (just missing the coffeeshop on the corner there :P ).

I had to look twice at the RL Oosterdok picture - I thought had the wrong city there because I did not recognize anything - but the Montelbaanstoren proofs it's indeed the Oosterdok and Prins Hendrikkade! The picture is taken in the 50's, but it remained looking like that until the 90's or so. It's a amazing how quick that part of town changed in the past 10 years! The locks and the spillways are amazing - and what a good way to make the transition from the plopped canals to the river in your map! They look very natural there.

You also did an excellent job on the Damrak and Damsquare. The solution you found for the National Monument (you know how we call it) turns out to be very nice. The blue flags that you used fit very well with the blue street ornament that the city placed on Damrak.

The Heerengracht in the last game pictures is very attractive. You really have a nice mix of bats in Kingly, and they all blend in very well into this town. I am looking forward to your future updates with residential canals. And you know what - it's great to see this all build by a non-Dutch person - you have an eye for details that even locals seem to miss.  :satisfied:

To finalize this "review", I have a question to you: the pictures that you added,  are they made by yourself or are they googled?

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on March 16, 2008, 06:08:36 AM
Fantastic new pictures of Kingly Amsterdam!

And the central station + area is looking beautiful!

Great work on it!

Looking forward to more...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on March 17, 2008, 06:38:47 AM
That is some awesome work, Paul. No other words can describe it...simply put, you have done a magnificent job of re-creating the canals.

I hope to continue to see much more of this inspiring project.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: rooker1 on March 17, 2008, 07:04:54 AM
Super work, awesome pics and you must have a lot of patience.  Everything looks very well placed and looks like a great recreation.  Your choice of custom content is very fitting, or at least I think so.  I like your use of the GLR.  I'm still trying to get the hang of it.
Great work and I look forward to your next update.
&apls
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on March 17, 2008, 09:19:30 AM
Paul wonderful last 2 updates here and it seems you have a small pollution problem in them waterways lol.... I do hope the council gets together and gets it cleaned up...  But I look forward to see what you got for us next!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on March 17, 2008, 01:30:48 PM
Wonderful update, my friend!

I love how you used in-game pictures and ones from real life to show the inspiration! I'll definitely be looking forward to seeing what you've got in store for next!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nardo69 on March 17, 2008, 04:15:11 PM
Great update!: I already said elsewhere that you really caught the atmosphere in Amsterdam!
I especially like that Harlemmergold church on that bridge and the transition between Kanal and sea is solved really elegant (though different than real life)! I must confess that these transition made me worry the most when I use kanals, too.

I just would give it a try to oppie's kanal pieces especially in those areas with the GLR and the pedestrian malls, that SC4 classic is a bit closer to the original that PEG's in urban areas IMHO

Take care (and don't forget to make backups)

Bernhard  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on March 18, 2008, 04:23:08 PM
Nice work Paul!
Yes, those creamy yellow buildings aren't really Dutch, but Hungarian ones :P
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on March 18, 2008, 07:05:33 PM
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Many happy returns,
Joan (Jmouse) and Dave (Tooheys)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on March 19, 2008, 06:02:07 AM
Also a

:party: HAPPY BIRTHDAY :party:

from me!!

And looking forward to more of West End! ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on March 19, 2008, 10:52:04 AM
Quoteit's an honour to call him a friend
True - so - true! 
Paul - I congratulated you just after midnight - hope you're having a fun day today.  ?=mad)=

Cheers! 
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on March 19, 2008, 11:00:51 AM
hello the friend Paul , I wish you a happy birthday and much of happiness in your life private  ;)
We are likely to be on a good interdependent community and divide likes our me joy that is SC4 .

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(posts of one films French)




The images of your city are splendid, a great pleasure for my eyes!
The buildings as well as the channels and of course your incredible talent has make a very realistic city . !

Your GLR is very well used I congratulate you  &apls

I am more than impatient to see your next update !

a+ Paul / Warconstruct




Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on March 19, 2008, 12:38:54 PM
Happy birthday, Paul! Hope your day is well, my friend!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on March 19, 2008, 02:08:21 PM
Hey, just popped in and was very surprised and touched to see you all having a party!

Joan & Dave - BIG BIG thanks for the support and help and your friendship.  Great verses there, you're a poet and don't know it ;)

Bat - thanks for the wishes.

Sebes - I know that today is also your mum's birtday, so happy birthday to mummy sebes!

Paul - thanks, first time I've had a brithday card from France

Dustin - thanks and yes I'm having a nice day with champagne, doughnuts, beer and chinese food.

Today is also my daughter's birthday, so it's a double celebration here.  And tomorrow I have a go-karting event with my friends.  So, normal West End service will resume at the weekend.

Thanks again guys, Paul

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on March 19, 2008, 07:24:37 PM
Hey Paul Im sorry I missed the Big Day but any ways...............


Happy Birthday and many more to come  around that don't make you fall or get hurt but most of may your bones dont hurt lol!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on March 20, 2008, 02:26:33 PM
Happy Birthday Paul!
Boldog születésnapot Paul!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Starmanw402007 on March 20, 2008, 06:22:27 PM
West End is Looking awesome there mayor. Saw all the great photos you displayed. Keep those updates coming. :)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on March 21, 2008, 09:21:46 PM
You've done it again my friend, another great update.

Dam Square is probably my fave, the monuments look good, but what really caught my eye was the little church over the canal  :thumbsup:

You continue to blend your lots together nicely and the canals look grand.

If anything the maxis city hall needs a bit of a facelift (well I had to pick on something  ::). )

Anyway, well done  &apls, looking forward to the next.

Dave.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on March 22, 2008, 10:43:10 AM
REPLIES:

Jmouse:  Joan, I'm pleased that you liked the RL pics mixed in.  Not something I've done much of before, but it just seemed appropriate here.  Thanks for all the positive comments, that update did take some time to put together, so it's nice to know it's appreciated.
As for the next update..... Kingly is having a few problems, so I'm not progressing as quickly as I'd like.

Sebes
:  Thanks for the detailed comments and support.  It is feedback like this that makes publishing this MD so enjoyable  ;D  thank you.  The locks and spillways seem to be popular.  They can be a bit fiddly to place.
I'm pleased that you are happy with the Dam Square - if an Amsterdammer says it is good, then that's good enough for me!
And the pics were found using google, not mine unfortunately  &ops

Bat:  Thanks for your support too - you're always here to add a friendly comment.

Nedalezz:  Well, when the person who has created Qumma uses the words awesome, magnificent and inspiring, I have to be happy  ()stsfd()

Rooker1:  Robin, you mention patience......I think I lost my patience during the current phase, with so many city problems including lack of jobs, terrible pollution and lack of commercial demand.  Placing the canals was easy in comparison!  As for the GLR, stick with it.  A tip for you from my own experiences.  Place the stations last.  For some reason, if you move a GLR puzzle piece over a GLR station I experience a CTD.  So, you either have to be VERY careful, or just leave gaps in the track for the stations and fill them in later.

Pat:  Hehe, yes the is probably the worst pollution I have ever had in SC4  ()flamdev().  I think it has got a bit better - but not much!

Dustin:  Thanks for that my friend - it's nice to have so many positive comments.

Nardo69:  Gee, thanks.  I'm glad you noticed the little church on the bridge.  I thought that it would be an unusual touch.  And thanks for the tip re Oppies canals - I will check them out real soon.

Bokrif:  Yes, Haarlemgold has Hungarian and German buildings as well as his Dutch ones.  So I am glad that Hungary can be represented in Amsterdam  :P

Starmanw402007
:  Welcome to West End, your first visit I believe.  I can guarantee the updates will keep coming.  Maybe only one a week, but they'll be there.

Tooheys:  You're not the only one to spot the little church.  And Dam Square was tricky to do, because there was no Bat that was just right.  Yeah, I need a city hall re-lot, wonder who might be able to help me ;)?

Birthday Greetings
:  Thanks to you all for the birthday greetings, I've replied to those a few posts above.


UPDATE 28:  22nd March 2008


Well, I have to start by saying I was very pleased with the number and content of the comments from the last update - thanks to all who commented and also those of you just viewing as well, but feel free to say hi and say what you like and what you don't like.

Kingly is having a few issues at the moment which has slowed down my development of the city.
The main problem is the lack of jobs.

28.01  City-wide Unemployment:
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The yellow arrows show you the houses with no jobs.  It's a bit frustrating, because I've built plenty of industrials at the edge of town and in the Oosterdok.  I've also built industrial zones on two neighbouring quads near to Kingly's borders.  I've even plopped the Joerg Auto Factory which gives 3,000 Industrial jobs, but it will only attract 1,500 workers.
Still, on the positive side, you can see the new city ferry terminal to the north of the Central Station (thanks Sebes for telling me it was there).
This pic also gives you a feel for how the city centre is developing.

28.02  Neighbourhood Unemployment:
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And here's a close up of the problem.  It's a shame, because they certainly spoil what could have been a nice picture!  Still, I have a cunning plan that I'm going to try out soon.


The other problem the city is facing at the moment is pollution - serious pollution.  This is mainly as a result of the heavy industry in and around the Oosterdok, let's have a look......

28.03  Oosterdok Pollution:
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This is the part of Oosterdok right next to the station and where the pollution is at its worst.  You can see that the area is still in development.  Not normally the quality of picture I'd post in the MD, but I wanted you to see the issues that the city is experiencing.


28.04  Inner Oosterdok:
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And here's what the inner Oosterdok looks like at present.  Once this is fully developed and I've got the pollution under control I think this could be the scene of a pretty good picture.
Sebes may notice that I have plopped the Montelbaanstoren in it's proper place (or very close).  I've also got one over next to Dam Square.  What do you all think, can I have two identical towers in the city?  Or should I get rid of the one over at Dam Square (picture 27.14)?  You know I'll go with the majority on this one!
And that GLR station is currently serving 664 people.


28.05  Outer Oosterdok:
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Here's a shot of the Outer Oosterdok, which stretches down towards the border with Charing Cross.  The pollution is not so bad here, although there is scope for more development along the docks.
You can see the GLR snakes its way from the city centre out to the docks.  I'm planning on building a park at the end of the GLR.


28.06  Western Industrials and Auto Factory:
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And just to prove there is plenty of industry in the city, here is the Western Insdustrial zone.  Joerg's Auto Factory is the large building at the end of the GLR (which has since been extended).  But I just cannot get enough people to work there, even though there are people without jobs !!!!
For those who know the real Amsterdam, the large plaza is Kingly's version of Leidseplein, just waiting for development to take off!  And the park is the Vondelpark.  I think the park probably needs to be bigger - any hints Sebes?


28.07  Charing Cross Industrials:
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Charing Cross is a large quad to the east of Kingly.  I've started building up Industrials at the edge of the city, together with good rail and road links to try and supply more jobs for the Kinglish.


28.08  Ferry Terminal:
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And just to finish off with the problems!  Here is the ferry terminal to the north of Central Station.  The terminals, along with all others in Kingly have no usage at all, when you click on them, they had zero passengers.  All very frustrating!  I've tried them at different heights but nothing - grrmmmph!
I was quite pleased with the embankment though - first time I've got the split levels to work.


28.09  R-C-I Demand:
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And this is what the demand is looking like at the moment.  I-HT is the big demand.  Hopefully the next I zones will generate the right stuff!


OK, enough of Kingly's problems, let's look at the good bits now......

28.10  West End National Flag:
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28.11  West End National Flag:
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I have to give a MASSIVE thank you to geoffhaw for producing these brilliant animated West End flags.  I can only imagine how long they took to make.  They are fully animated in-game, so the flag is slightly different in each stage of the animation.  Geoff, if you're reading - THANK YOU.  And what makes it even better is that Geoff is also a West Ham fan, so he fully appreciated the Claret and Blue version of St.George's Cross.  You can see a version of the flag on plain grass in 28.08 outside the terminals.
I'm not quite sure what that random object is on the avenue in 28.11!


28.12  Oudebrugsteed
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A random shot from the city!  Here is the junction of Damrak and Oudebrugsteed.  It's a different angle from the pic in 27.12.  The city hall doesn't really work - Dave is right.  So any suggestions for a better city hall to fit here are much appreciated.


28.13  Kingly Overview:
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OK, I've done a bit of demolition work, weeding out the buildings with no-job-zots.  You can also see I've been working on embankment walls for the sunken rail.  You can also see the two Montelbaanstoren in this pic.
I think you can get the idea of what it's going to look like once it's more developed.  I am doing my best to get it done - but it's not as easy as I thought!


28.14  Kingly at Night:
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This one is for Joan!  Shame about the no-job-zots, but I think you can see how the canals and ped-mall tiles really give good results with night lighting.  Just wait until it's fully developed and I sort the unemployment out!  You never know, there may even be a picture comp entry from such a shot!


Well, that's it for today.  It's not quite the update I had in mind, but I wanted to keep you posted and show you that there are some problems to overcome - I guess like we all experience from time to time!

'til next time......... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on March 22, 2008, 01:13:56 PM
Paul wonderful Update here and I think by showing off the problems of the city it brings it down to more of a realistc city!!!   I do love your flags and also the parks in the middle, where are those parks at anyways or are they your own custom creation?   What bites is that I cant see the night pic at all 28.14 siiiigh... Anyways wonderful stuff here and I do hope you have a Happy Easter!!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on March 22, 2008, 02:41:08 PM
Excellent update Paul - toppertje :thumbsup:

For the ferry to work - do you have a ferry at the other side of the river too? Your population is in need for high-tech industry, what will not grow in poluted cities. Maybe some I-HT at the other bank will attract the high educated Kingly workers to work there.

Your pic 28.04 - the Oosterdok with barges and the Montelbaantoren on it's RL spots looks great. If you ask me that is HoF material once it's fully developped. I personally don't mind to see the Montelbaantoren on more places -it's a great bat, and I always love how the flag is blowing on it!

Thanks for also showing the overviews in pics 5-6-14. It's nice to see how Kingly has grown. I have seen the "naked" layout of the canals, and it's a pleasure to see how the city got dressed up by you. I especially like the result of the remoddeling of the bended canals (southeast of Leidseplein). They will look awesome with some diagonal building along them.... The central overview made me realize that your Damsquare is mirrored compared with the way how I interpreted your Damsquare picture in the previous update - nice surprise!

Geoff did a good job on the West End / West Ham flags - and you made them look very nice in the game! I also love that view on the Oudebrugsteeg. And that night shot - awesome - especially the effect of the pedmall lampposts  :satisfied:

Take your time to solve the issues in Kinlgy and I am looking forward to your next update!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on March 22, 2008, 07:51:46 PM
Wow, I really hate to see all that unemployment, Pau!  &mmm Thing is, your demand graph seems to be a bit out of kilter. The high demand for I-HT would suggest a well-educated and slightly older population as would the low demand for I-D and I-M. But a high EQ should spawn a need for the C-$$s and $$$s - both kinds I'd think. Seems like there's always a demand for R$ and most of the time for R$$, but once again, the I-HT demand should create a greater demand for R$$$. So somehow, you don't have the right jobs for the right Sims, but I don't know how to fix it. Hope somebody will come along and explain it! ???

I always tend to doze the polluters
as soon as I think I can get away with it,  ::) so maybe try eliminating them and grow or plop some I-HT. Or could it be that the Sims can't get to their jobs or don't like the mass transit you've provided? I just think you've really undertaken a huge challenge here and it will be very enlightening to see how you deal with it.

28.04  Inner Oosterdok looks great, especially that drawbridge, and I can see how you've started to zone the jagged edges of the canal (28.01). I've been curious about that. I like the way you built the ferry terminal in 28.08 -- been taking lessons from somebody we know?! :D

The flags (28.10) look superb, thanks to geoffhaw, and so do the plazas, but don't be admitting Dave is right about anything! ;D

And it's so sweet of you to add a night shot for me! :thumbsup: But you are right, those canals look spectacular after dark. Use the tastyzots cheat if you want to get rid of the job thingys temporarily.

However things work out, I'm really glad you showed us the bad with the good. As a fan, I like to see the ups and downs and how you deal with them. After all, that's the way it is in RL and besides, that's one way we learn from each other!

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on March 22, 2008, 09:16:28 PM
Don't let pollution and unemployment get you down, my friend! You'll get it all straightened out, I'm sure. And I can't wait to see how you do it!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on March 23, 2008, 01:26:16 AM
West End continues the look great Paul.

Pity about the zots but I'm sure you will come up with a plan to solve that problem.

The barges look great, nice pic of the one going under the drawbridge.

28.10 and 28.11, lovely little park and the flag looks great.

Cheers

Dave

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: squidi on March 23, 2008, 06:14:16 AM
hi paul,
i saw i missed your birthday so now with a small delay i wish you all the best

the city looks absolutly graat with the canal layout  :thumbsup:
there was one little thing i dont like and i made a picture to show it to you (easier to explain with my bad english ;) )
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i think you should use more diagonal seawalls where the yellow stripes are

i am sure you will fit the unemployment problem and show us a wonderfull city
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on March 23, 2008, 01:10:48 PM
hello my friend Paul, you have do one here works splendid  &apls

- I like much the sights brought closer they are very beautiful .
- I see that you solved the problem of unemployment it is very well because it can really become disturb .
- The district of the station is very successful with a very good use of the GLR  &apls
- Your port is splendid and I like much how you used the batches of PEG !

...In short very beautiful works which represents Amsterdame well  ;D

So long for a new update!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on March 24, 2008, 08:53:29 AM
REPLIES:

Pat:  Thanks for dropping by Pat, and yes, I thought I should show this place warts and all!  As for the parks you asked about..... Well, they're by a team called BLaM!  Not sure if you've heard of them  ;)  Here's the (http://linkie.) (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=17474)
In all seriousness, there is a whole load of BLaM plazas over on STEX, I have many of them.
Not sure why the night shot is not showing - hopefully just a temporary glitch, but I've got a good excuse to post more now!

Sebes:  Wow, great comments there thanks  ()stsfd().  The ferry problem is odd, I've quite a few dotted around the city but they are not being used apart from one at the edge of the city.  I'll just have to play around with them!
And thanks for the words re the Montelbaartoren - I'll stick with two then!  And glad you liked the Oudebrugsteed and night shot.

Jmouse:  I think I've worked out the reason for the no-job-zots.  It's covered below.  I've brought the pollution under control by wheeling out the bulldozer.  And the Inner Oosterdok should look very nice once completed.
And yes, I admit Dave's ferry terminals and embankments were on my mind when I built the terminal there :P!
And more night shots to come!

Thunder crack83:  Hi Dustin.  I'm working my way through the problems and learning a whole load of stuff along the way.

Tooheys:  Dave, comment number 400, thank you &apls.  See below for a little award!  That drawbridge seems popular.

Squidi:  Paul, thanks for that - good suggestion.  I've started preparing for it and will show you the results once done.

Warconstruct:  Another Paul!  Thanks for your words.  I am happy that you like the different parts of the city.



UPDATE 29:  24th March 2008

THE DOUBLE ZERO CLUB:
Over at Three Rivers Region, David celebrates each person who posts a "hundred" post.  I think it's a great idea, and whilst I will not be able to do it as well as David does, I thought I'd at least do something.
I looked back through the pages and found that we have three members so far:

Post 100 - tkirch, 3 November
Todd hasn't been around for a while.  Now, I know he is a tax accountant and it's his busy time, so West End hereby appoints tkirch as official Tax Meister General:
29.01  In honour of tkirch:
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Post 200 - sebes, 28 November

I found out early on that sebes is a Grolsch man.  Personally, I prefer Amstel, but in honour of his 200th post, Grolsch is officially adopted as the National Beer of West End.  But Sebes, please make sure that the next consignement arrives in one piece this time:
29.02  In honour of sebes:
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Post 300 - sebes, 27 January
And up sebes popped again for the 300th post.  Sebes works for KLM, that great Dutch institution, and so whilst West End already has a national carrier (WestJet), KLM is appointed as official partner to WestJet, with code-shares and all other airline related stuff.  And Sebes gets free upgrades whenever he travels on WestJet/KLM services but please make sure not to land the plane on the beaches in West End!
29.03  In honour of sebes:
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Post 400, tooheys, 23 March

And the newest member of the double zero club, Dave posted number 400 just yesterday.  Dave has given much encouragement and support to West End's civil engineers, particularly in respect of making sure the land is nice and flat ;).  So, in honour of toohey's love of flat surfaces, the Flat Earth Society have opened their first office in West End and aim to promote all things flat!
29.04  In honour of tooheys:
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And two quick teasers for the next update.........

The pollution is being brought under control, the river is looking better already.  And following squidi's suggestion I started to prepare for smoothing the riverbanks with diagonal embankments.  The river was very un-even in depth, so I made it deeper and for the first time ever in West End, a whale was spotted!

29.05  Whale Spotting in Kingly
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The only other time I've seen a pic of a whale in SC4 was in Dave's Balnavia.


The Nieuwmarkt is one of my favourite spots in both Amsterdam and Kingly.  The next full update will feature a tour of the tourist sites and this will be one of them.


29.06  Nieuwmarkt at Night - Amsterdam
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29.07  New Market at Night - Kingly:
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As for the unemployment.....It's commute times.  Every single house with a no-job-zot has a commute time of "Long".  So now, I have a decision to make.  To create the look I want, I need streets (with the side street mod) and also the network of canals and linking streets.  But this means traffic is bad and journey times long which leads to the no-job problems.  So, I've installed a subway system to try and improve journey times.  Not very realistic, but hopefully it will be invisible to the viewer.

Also, whilst it could be considered cheating, I have created ploppable Landmark lots, of many of Vanderaap and Haarlemgold's Bats.  This way, I can plop them into the troublesome areas and still achieve the look I want.  I'm not really a fan of plopping, but sometimes, needs must.

You'll see some of the results in the next update, so,

'til next time......... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on March 24, 2008, 06:35:13 PM
Congratulations to tkirch, sebes and tooheys! Those tributes are really, really clever! :thumbsup:

Glad to hear the pollution problem is gone (or going away), and you won't have to use the "tastyzots" cheat after all! I'm glad you're going to try out the diagonal walls along the river, too. I know preparation is a royal pain, but it will be worth the time and trouble.

And both night shots look great. The New Market shot is the first up close we've had of the lighted canal walls. What is Nieuwmarkt, by the way - (no, I'm not going to venture a guess and embarrass myself again!)?

Anxious to see your plops in game - I think you will achieve a very pleasing variety based on what I've seen so far.

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on March 25, 2008, 06:55:27 AM
hmmm Paul what is the BLaM team you speak of???   $%Grinno$%  LoL see being the boss and such a newer one at that, I dont know alot lol.... Thank you for pointing out to me  :D   Paul I loved the update and it was very good tributes to Todd an Sebes btw who got the 100 marker??? Anywho loved the whale spotting and I do hope to see more soon....
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on March 25, 2008, 07:14:28 AM
Great new update there! Also nice tributes to the members of the double zero club!

Looking forward to the next update...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on March 25, 2008, 12:39:40 PM
I miss the red lights in the NieuwMarkt area night shot...did the major succeed in banning the prostutes from the city center?
  %ban%

The two pictures were already part of my favourites: especially the plan landing in SintMaarten is great. I had it as my desktop a couple of years ago. I have to disappoint you that Grolsch is not my cup of tea: if I drink one class of it I get a headache. I was convinced it was your favourte so that is why mentioned a few times. I prefer Brand (link)  (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JDO4nQZv0SQ&feature=related) beer myself.

Cheers mate  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on March 25, 2008, 05:16:20 PM
Congratulations on 400 comments, Paul! And I love the tributes to all those who hit the "00!"

Kingly is coming along nicely, and I like the whale-spotting picture! I'll be looking forward to following along here has you go for 400 more comments!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on March 28, 2008, 02:55:49 AM
ROTFLMAO

Sorry my friend, a bit late noticing the update and the award, seem to be a bit busy lately  ;) Thanks muchly, and I'll accept being called two dimensional by you as a compliment  :D

Nice teasers, and good to see an Orca or two have made an appearance. That church, I'm sure I've seen that somewhere before  ::)

Cheers

Dave

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on March 30, 2008, 08:34:01 AM
REPLIES:

Jmouse:  Hi Joan, I'm pleased you liked the tributes.  One every hundred posts means I get plenty of time to dream up some ideas for future awards!  And believe me, the no-job zots are still an issue.  I've never developed a city before where there is such a large expanse of Residential buildings.  Still, the Ploppables are doing the trick.  Just means the population is declining.
And I think Nieuwmarkt is Dutch for New Market.  I'm sure sebes will let us know if this is wrong.

Pat:  cheers Pat. Todd got the "100" post and hopefully will re-surface soon.  And glad you liked the whale.  He's proving to be a popular attraction. :P

Bat:  As a regular poster, I guess you've got a good chance of the next "00"!  Fingers crossed.

Sebes:  I couldn't find a suitable bat for the red light district.  SimGoober has some adult buildings, but the architecture just wouldn't fit!  Not sure that anyone would be willing to build a custom bat of the girls in the window!
For those who have not visited Amsterdam, the area near the Nieuwmarkt is the red light district, where girls of all shapes, sizes, colours and looks sit in the window and display their wares!  Let's just say it's part of Amsterdam's own unique charm.
And sorry about the Grolsch, I feel embarrassed now!  Hopefully you'll accept it as a tribute anyway. &ops

Thundercrak83:  Hey Dustin, thanks.  Glad you liked the tributes.  Another 400 comments?  I wonder if I can keep West End fresh enough to get that far.

Tooheys:  I thought you'd like the award!  And yes you may well recognise the church.  Maybe some re-worked versions will appear in another city.



UPDATE 30:  30th March 2008

Today we're going on a tour of some of the major tourist sights in Kingly.  Last time I gave you a teaser of the Nieuwmarkt at night.  I think we'll start today's tour from that spot.

30.01  Kingly New Market:
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This is a lively spot in the eastern side of the city centre.  During the day a busy market takes place around the church, so there's always people milling around.  There are some bars around the edge of the square, and it's a great place to sit and "people watch".


30.02  Amstedam Nieuwmarkt:
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This is a busy spot in the city of Amsterdam.  And it's also in the red-light district!  It was difficult to find the right building to try and capture the feeling of the real Nieuwmarkt, but I hope you are pleased with the result.


30.03  Overview of the New Market:
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You can see a small park opposite the New Market, plus a ped mall that leads to a tram station.  The ped-mall is home to shops, restaurants and bars.  A pleasant place to sit in the summer.


Let's now head over to the area near to Dam Square.

30.04  Rembrandt Theatre and National Library:
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On the left is the National Library of West End.  Kingly had to campaign long and hard to have it located here instead of in the capital.  Next to it is the Rembrandt Theatre.  You know, I cannot picture where the theatre really is in Amsterdam, so I had to select a spot that seemed appropriate.  And I think it looks at home, on the boulevard and next to the National Library.
I just wish the small pedestrianised are could look a bit busier!


30.05  Kingly Stadthuis:
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Here is the City Hall.  The bat is Haarlem Stadthuis.  I think it's a real cracker.  The city hall is right on Dam Square, so has one of the most prominent positions in the whole city.


30.06  Dam Square Close-up:
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As you can see, this is a popular meeting place.  You'll notice the tram in the bottom of the picture.  It's a very busy Tram Station on Dam Square.


30.07  Canal Church of Sint Beatrix:
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A few of you commented about the little church on the canal, well here is a close-up.


30.08  Kingly Flower Market:
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Kingly is (or at least will be) surrounded by much farmland.  And many of the farms are dedicated to growing flowers.  And many of them end up here - the flower market.


30.09  Amsterdam Floating Flower Market:
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This place is very popular with tourists.  After all, everyone wants Tulips From Amsterdam.


Well, that's all for today's tour.  Next time we'll take in the rest of the sights, including some churches, the VondelPark and some of the squares.  As a taster, here is the most lively square in both Amsterdam and Kingly, the Leidseplein.  I want to do some custom LE work to make the square a bit more "lively".


30.10  Leidseplein at night:
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I hope you've enjoyed this quick tour.  I'm off on my own tour now for two weeks, so next update will be some time after 15th April.  Hope to see you again then.

'til next time.................. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on March 30, 2008, 11:42:55 AM
Love the market lots in game, Paul. Hope they'll be up for distribution on the LEX soon. The library and theatre look good, too. You always get so lucky in capturing those trams in your photos! BTW, you mentioned pedestrian traffic - one of the MODs allows you to encourage walking although I'm not sure which one. Anyway, I used it in WJ and ended up with almost no street traffic in my photos, but loads of pedestrians! &mmm

The City Hall is almost worth starting a whole new region for just to use it! I like the way it's landscaped, too - did you run it through the LE? (And is that one of those red double-decker Brit busses in the pic? ;)) Dam Square is always a pleasure to see, and I like the buildings behind it, too. Many have already said it, but you have chosen your BATs exceptionally well.

The little Canal Church of St. Beatrix is charming - I love churches and will probably BAT a few eventually. Of course, the flower market looks great, and 30.10  Leidseplein at night is beautiful. Did I happen to mention that I like night shots? :D

Enjoy your holiday, and we'll see you in a couple of weeks.

Until then...
Joan

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on March 30, 2008, 12:04:35 PM
OMG - this is wonderfull. I recognize some buildings now even  ;)

I don't know where to start:
First your reply: no worry about the beer. Next time when you're in RL Amsterdam I will buy you some. Although, knowing that you're a beer fan and a Amsterdam adept I think you will know more of it than myself  ::). The Red Light house... you'd think there should be somebody able to re-do some Dutch buildings and make some windows with red glows...  I build a Amsterdam like city myself this week and SG adults shops grew like crazy - indeed they don't match with the architecture.

Nieuwmarkt indeed means New Market(place). The building that shows on it is not a church though, it's the Waag (weighhouse) where they weighed witches in the past. So the Nieuwmarkt is not a place to bring your wife, for various reasons  ;) 
The church you took and placed there does however fit very well - so good choice.

The Rembrandt Theater is called http://www.cinematour.com/tour.php?db=fo&id=1331]Tuchinsky Theater (link) in RL. It's very beautifull Art Deco movie-theater, especially the interior is a must-see. Next time when in Amsterdam you'll have to put in on your list. It's in the Reguliersbree straat, near Rembrandtplein (probably why VDA gave it that name).

The National Library and Cityhall pictures are great. The tram gives a good feeling to your Kingly. Paul. I agree that he ped-mall tile should be filled with pedestrians. Well, maybe some time somebody will figure out how to do that....
The Leidseplein -by-Night is absolutely teasing me... cannot wait to see what you made of it. Enjoy your tour, and see you back in two week! (I'll have surprise for you then  :satisfied: )





Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on March 30, 2008, 01:31:45 PM
Paul

I have only just had the chance to catch up on a number of updates ::) and
very impressive work you have done too &apls

just a tip use the cheatcode "tastyzots" and those nojob zots will disappear from your pic.

I'm glad I put the kettle on and made a cuppa while I caught up, in fact I think I'll have another - care to join me :D :D

regards
Derry
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on March 30, 2008, 01:44:47 PM
Paul what a grand of update here!!!  I have to soo echo what Joan said as she has summed it up all soo well...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on March 31, 2008, 03:13:20 AM
That new update is wonderful there, paroch! The church area is looking great! The others, too! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on March 31, 2008, 12:02:42 PM
Very good  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: mattb325 on March 31, 2008, 03:21:28 PM
Well, paroch..happy (very belated) birthday!!!!

I love the twist that West End has taken with the canals and all of the W2W.

You really have a fantastic eye for detail and with Haarlemergold and VDAs fine BATs (his stuff was my very first download) you've a really unique city. Dam square needs only one detail....BIRDS (there is a prop in the lot editor called 'Effect_pigeons', or 'Effect_seagulls' or some such thing), you could add this to a plaza tile and plop around and voila - the pesky pigeons of Dam Sq.... $%Grinno$%

Great job here and it's brilliant to see the level of planning and details you are showing with each update!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: amapper on April 01, 2008, 04:15:41 PM
Your use of canals as shown in UPDATE 28 is awesome indeed. That had to have taken a huge amount of time. Very interesting to view. It will be fun to watch it develop.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: callbat on April 01, 2008, 04:45:49 PM
Excellent city there, paroch!  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: rooker1 on April 02, 2008, 05:14:12 AM
I love the update, the use of the GLR, your custom lots, the cannals and that church all fit together perfectly.  I don't recognise anything but I would love to visit your city. ;)
Great work my friend, I'll be back.
Robin  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on April 19, 2008, 11:38:55 AM
REPLIES

Jmouse:  Joan, it's detailed comments like those that make publishing an MD worthwhile  :thumbsup:.  Yes, it is a London Red Bus, no the city hall is not a re-lot, it's the original by Haarlemergold.  I try to make sure I get a tram in the pic if possible, during rush hours there are plenty of them!  Glad you liked the flower market, and yes, I kinda figured you liked night shots  ;).

Sebes:  Comments like these from an Amsterdammer mean a heck of a lot - Thank you.  And the info re the theatre was very interesting.  Hope you approve of Leidseplein - it was difficult to find the "right" things to use.  And I look forward to the "surprise".

TeaCat:  A visit from the man bearing tea is always a pleasure!  Thanks for the tastyzots tip, I've used it for some pics. 

Pat
:  Glad you like it.

Bat:  Thanks for your rock solid support  &apls.

Simpson:  Welcome to West End - thanks for your first comment, feel free to pop by any time.

MattB:  Matt, you're too modest not to mention your own W2W buildings appearing.  I think they fit in perfectly.  In this update they were VERY important on the Leidseplein to give me the mix I wanted.  Thanks for the pigeons tip.  I created a Dam Square v2 with pigeons, for some reason though, they don't show up in game, hmmmmmmm, must play around with that some more.

AMapper:  Welcome, your first comment in West End I believe.  I loved Lexington and have visited Halifax.  And yes, the canals took hours to lay out.  This quad is taking me longer than normal, purely because I know what BATs I want where, I am being VERY fussy!

Callbat
:  Another first time visitor to West End, thanks for stopping by.

Rooker1:  Thanks Robin.  Good to see you here again. 

UPDATE 31 - 19th April 2008


Three weeks is the longest gap ever between updates in West End, and I've really missed the place!  I was away in Egypt, and in the hotel we stayed, there was a fountain in the entrance courtyard.  Each day I walked past it, and it reminded me of Kingly's Dam Square, so West End was still in my thoughts!

31.01  Egypt's Dam Square:
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31.02  Amsterdam's Dam Square:
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31.03  Kingly's Dam Square:
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Maybe they're all on slightly different scales!

Anyways...... Normal update time.  I thought we'd carry on with our tour of some of the main tourist sights in Kingly.  Last time I left you with a night shot of Leidseplein, well, I created a custom lot to make the square a bit more lively:


31.04  Kingly Leidseplein - looking West:
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You can see a Mariachi band performing to a crowd.


31.05  Kingly Leidseplein - looking South:
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There are plenty of places to eat and drink on the square, and it's usually a busy place.


31.06  Amsterdam Leidseplein:
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The thing I most remember on my visits to the Leidseplein were the street entertainers and the sheer number of people just standing around watching and enjoying themselves.  This little montage of pics gives you some idea of what I tried to capture.  If anyone knows of props that would help me improve the square, just let me know and I'll create a v2.


31.07  Kingly Rembrandt Square:
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A small park close to the city centre.  Some pavement bars and cafes line the outside of the square.


31.08  Amsterdam Rembrandtplein:
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This was my favourite "people watching" spot in all of Amsterdam.  You could sit there with a beer and watch the world go by, and believe me, in Amsterdam you get all sorts of people just wandering by.


31.09  Friendship Plaza:
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This square was built to celebrate the links between Kingly and Amsterdam.  The two flags are the West End national flag and the Amsterdam city flag.  A big thank you goes to Geoffhaw who created both of the flags.  Note the city flag and Sebes avatar - spot the connection??


31.10  Vondell's Park entrance and Rijksmuseum:
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The Vondell's Park is the largest park in Kingly and is named after a Dutch immigrant Frank Van Vondell who was the city planner who laid out the canal system.
The Rijksmuseum is home to some of the most important West End art.


31.11  Amsterdam Rijksmuseum:
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An impressive building with an impressive art collection!


31.12  Vondell Park, southwest corner:
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The only football pitch in the inner-city.


31.13  Vondell Park, northern edge:
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31.14  Vondell Park overview:
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31.15  Amsterdam Vondelpark:
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The Vondelpark in Amsterdam was designed by a garden architect called Jan David Zocher.  It opened to the public in 1865 and was originally called the New Park.  The public soon started calling it Vondelpark after a statue of the 17th century writer, Joost van den Vondel was placed in the park.  The name was eventually adopted officially.
On my one visit to the Vondelpark I was with a group of friends and we took a football to have a kick around.  Soon, we had a Dutchman, an American, a Bulgarian and an Ivorian and a Ghanian joining in with us.  Football truly was the only common language!


31.16  Sebeseplein:
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Sebes has been a fantastic help in putting Kingly together, giving me plenty of help and ideas, so this sqaure is named for you.  It is home to some upmarket boutiques and bars and has the magnificent church of Sint Sebes in its centre.  Isn't that bat just fantastic?  I'm sure it's one of Haarlemergold's (if not then Vanderaap).


31.17  Bell Tower and Clock Tower:
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The bell tower (top) and clock tower (bottom) are both popular with tourists and sit either side of the main north/south boulevard out from the city centre.


31.18  Canal Church of Sint Johan:
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Another of Kingly's small canal churches.  This one is named after the greatest Dutch footballer - ever.


31.19  Amsterdam Montelbaanstoren:
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What a fantastic building.  It looks so proud sitting there next to the canal, photographed as toursit go past in the tour boats.


31.20  Kingly Montell's Tower:
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Montell's Tower sits guard over the main entrance to the city canal system from the Oosterdock. 


Well, that's the tour of the city's main sights complete.  I hope you enjoyed it and I'll be trying to get back to more regular updates.

'til next time.............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on April 19, 2008, 11:55:30 AM
Paul wonderful simply wonderful update here and Im glad that both you and Dave have taken a time to update!!! btw is it not Saint Sebes church and not Sint Sebes lol....  Im glad you have had a great time on your vacation and also what a wonderful pics you brought back!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on April 19, 2008, 12:35:33 PM
Hey Paul, glad to see both you and Dave have made time to create fantastic updates! :thumbsup:

The square looks great.
It makes me think of old-word charm mixed with a touch of 21st century technology thrown in, and surprisingly, it works quite well. Just one question: is it safe (and/or legal?) to cross the tracks on foot? You know me, I've never seen a tram in my life so I wondered how that works. Kingly Rembrandt Square looks really good, too - very inviting - and there's Friendship Plaza with the flags unfurled. Vondell's Park just goes to further illustrate the many lovely elements we have available, and the overview is stunning - what a wonderful place to spend an afternoon.  :)

I just love the BATs you use, and the towers were unexpected but work in very well. Like the way you curved the avenue in 31.17 to make room for the bell tower, and I agree, the church is magnificent. You are really mastering the art of including RL photos in your updates, too.

You have done an excellent job
of getting right back in the game after a longer-than-usual absence, and I notice you don't have far to go to reach a new milestone! ;)

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on April 19, 2008, 12:40:24 PM
Welcome back, Paul!

I'm so glad so see things up and running here in WEST END again, my friend! Another fantastic update, I'll be looking forward to seeing more of your work!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: panthersimcity4 on April 19, 2008, 07:15:11 PM
Wow, I can't believe I haven't been here! I've been missing alot!

I love the Amsterdam look, and I especially love that cute little church on the canal.  ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: callbat on April 19, 2008, 07:21:35 PM
wow, everything is splendid.
I especially like how you went beyond vanderaap's BATs and put some more content in there!.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Fatsuhono on April 19, 2008, 10:48:17 PM
Wow I love it nice work!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on April 20, 2008, 01:06:36 AM
Very beautiful continue
But I don't like the lake  ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on April 20, 2008, 02:41:42 AM
Looking brilliant Paul. Love the plaza's, especially 31.04. The tram line thru the middle and I'm guessing custom lots, great effect  :thumbsup:

The canal church will always be one of my favourite WEST END places and that final pic, great work with the canals and the tower looks right at home.

If there is one complaint, it's sooo flat  :D (Private joke people, don't be alarmed)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on April 20, 2008, 03:14:18 AM
Great use with the GLR there! The parks are also very great!

Looking forward to the next fantastic update...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on April 20, 2008, 04:02:25 AM
And what a joyful sunny day this is... The sun shining, the window open, a nice cup of fresh coffee and than see a West End  update.  And WHAT an update you made my friend....  :satisfied:

You know me by now, I don't only awe, but also comment on what I see.

So, starting at the Egypt thing in the middle of the fountain: ROFL. Seeing that picture I just KNEW what you were thinking when taking it, and apparently every day when passing it...

The Leidseplein: it's great. It's very Kingly and no so much Amsterdammed maybe. When I saw the picture, before reading your comments, I noticed at a glance what you were trying to recreate with the people props arround the performer! But if you consider a vs2: I miss trees. There is one tree on your square.. I'd suggest to drop some in the middle of the square too, say between every two of the little yellow things that make the square so Kingly, especially arround the gazebo.
@ Joan, not only do you have to cross tram tracks as a pedestrian ( Leidsetraat (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Leidsestraat_met_tram.jpg/800px-Leidsestraat_met_tram.jpg) is a pedestrian zone with tram through it), also by bike and car you will also have to follow the tracks without getting your tyre stuck in the rail...  like in Raadhuisstraat (http://www.trafficlinq.nl/findpictures/data/media/34/w_4040-16-002_2.JPG) that directs from Dam toward the western parts of town.

The Rembrandt Square is great - it looks just as pleasant as the real one! Indeed, sitting there and watching the crowds is also one of my favorite activitities in Summer!

Than Friendship Plaza : the flag parade that you managed to get in there is making my heart go faster... Great picture!!!!! (and once again: Thanks Geoffhaw indeed).

The Vondel Park entrance  has a big WOW-factor. It's so cool to have that bus turning there (like they always seem to need to do right there where traffic is caught in a bottle neck..) There is just one thing missing: tourists crossing the road and tracks to the park entrance...
Also the rest of the park you created very nicely. (Zocher, if still alive, would be very pleased with the recreation of his park in West End!!!)

Than Sebeseplein and Saint Sebes  (you'd know me better by know I'd say... WHAT did you smoke in Egypt man????): the church is great, a real gem, and very nicely made. I feel honoured to have this great square named after me. Every time when I am in a city with a Sava Savas or St Sebastian church we take a picture with me before the church... So, I will definately have to book a trip to West End now to take one there as well....

Picture 3.18 could easily be my favourite picture so far of Kingly, but it isn't... I tell you why. The top tower, the Bell tower, does not fit. Not only the tower does not fit, also the avenue  curve with the grass spoils the effect of a densely populated city with high ground prices. This is caused by the two parallel streets, that you used to connect the canals. My tip: place the street to connect both canals a bit back from the avenue, so that you build some high houses on both sides of the avenue.  If you do that on both sides of the avenue, it will create a perfect picture I guess. And if the avenue if then also filled with cars I guess that picture could be in the fast lane to HoF  ;)

The Canal Church of St Johan: you sure know who to pick for naming churches! When I was a boy I always dreamt that one day my mother would say : "Son, I have to tell you that Dad is not your dad but Johan Cruyff is". Well, obviously that never happened... But, in this case, it makes sense to name a place of worship after this man.  But, talking about Mr 14 we get diverted from this picture, and we should not. The street lay out, the canal  layout, the idea of bridges that you create here, and the way you have placed the houses in this part of town is EXCELLENT! The trees and cars in the picture makes it even PERFECT. I like it a lot... and will try to copy this atmosphere in my city if you don't mind.. (probably without succeeding anyhow).

The last pic, Montell's Tower and Oosterdock, is a bit familair, as it was posted before as 28.04, but now the entire area is build up. I still love the many barges and the open bridge, and the tram crossing the canal as well, and of course the flag blowing from the tower.  :satisfied: With all houses grown now, it turned out to be HoF material as well. I get a feeling that if all last three pictures are entered in the competition, they will all go to HoF, and in the final round we will have to choose between two of these three to become the best picture ever.... !

Cheers, and thanks for a pleasant stay in Kingly again this week...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on April 27, 2008, 08:22:34 AM
REPLIES

Pat:  Thanks for dropping by.  I think "Sint" is Dutch for Saint, but I am sure Sebes will let us know.

Jmouse
:  Cheers Joan.  Sebes has given you an explanation of the trams, so I won't repeat it.  The Leidseplein square is a mix of new and old buildings, so I'm glad you like the mix here.  It's funny because I've got so used to using only a limited number of Bats here in Kingly that it'll be strange when I finally move onto another quad and have a bigger range to use.  And thanks for the compliment re RL pics - unfortunately none in this update L

Thundercrack83
:  Hi Dustin, thanks again for your visit here.

Panthersimcity
:  Hey don't worry, I know there are so many MDs/CJs to keep up with  %wrd.  I'm glad you're enjoying the Amsterdam look.

Callbat
:  thanks for your comment - and yes, I did tweak some of the lots.

Fatsuhono
:  Welcome to West End - feel free to pop in any time!

Simpson
:  Aha, the "lake" is not really a lake at all  ::).  It is part of the Oosterdock - see below for more.

Tooheys
:  Yes Dave, the square relied on custom lots - some of which I've re-worked below.  And it's funny how popular the canal church is.  And as for the tower pic - it made the Hall of Fame with a lot of help from the NUTs and West End visitors - thank you all  :thumbsup:.

Bat:  Thanks, the GLR does add something to a city, I think.

Sebes
:  Hey, what a great post - thank you.  Riding a tram down the Leidsestraat is something I enjoyed in Amsterdam.  I'll try to include the Kingly version in a future update.  And of course, I knew you'd pick up on the Cruyf reference!  And if ever I'm in Amsterdam again, I'll buy you a beer on the Rembrandtplein!
I've taken your advice and reworked the bell tower and the Leidseplein pics.

UPDATE 32:  27th APRIL 2008


I'll start today with some "re-worked" pictures.  Just to prove I do listen to what you say, here are some areas where you made suggestions on how to improve:

32.01  Leidseplein (before)
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32.02  Leidsplein (after)
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As you can see, I've added trees to make the Kingly version a bit more like the Amsterdam RL version.  Interestingly, I used Porkie's trees -but I think they must be timed props to appear in line with the seasons - they only appear some of the time.


32.03  Bell Tower and Clock Tower (before)
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32.04  Bell Tower and Clock Tower (after)
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Following Sebes' suggestion, I re-worked the area around the bell tower to give some larger buildings along the avenue and pushed the streets back on either side.  I'm quite pleased with the results.


32.05  Outer Oosterdok (before)
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Squidi suggested that I should work on the shoreline to make it smoother.....

32.06  Outer Oosterdock (after)
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And here you can see it looks much "smoother".  You can see I still have plenty of room to build on the other side of the river.

So if ever you have a suggestion on how I can improve an area please let me know - I listen to what you say (most of the time)


The last two updates looked at the main tourist sights.  Well today I'm going to show you a couple of parts of the city that the locals like to visit that the tourists don't really know about.  The first one is the Outer Oosterdok shown in picture 32.06 above.

The Outer Oosterdok is home to much of Kingly's industrial businesses.  There used to be a bad pollution problem here, but much has been done to improve the situation.  And in amongst the industry there are some nice quiet riverside walks and parks.  Let's take a look.....


32.07  Overview of the Outer Oosterdok:
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Here is the main dock.  Many ships and barges pass through the locks each day to deliver raw materials and collect finished goods.  Even with all of the activity, the water-side is still a relaxing and calming place.  It's also a great place to sit and watch the activity on the water and docks.


32.08  Locks in action:
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Here are two barges passing through one of the sets of locks next to the railway bridge.  The water treatment plant really helped with the pollution.


32.09  Ooster Park:
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This park is at the end of one of the tram lines.  It's a popular place to have a picnic.


32.10  Craft Village:
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The small huts are home to the city's arts and crafts shops.  At the weekend, many Kinglish can be found here, buying pictures, candles, wooden items and all sorts of interesting knick-knacks.  A couple of snack bars makes sure that there are ice creams and hot dogs for all!


32.11  Oostermarkt:
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On the western edge of the Oosterdok is this marketplace.  It sells all sorts of fresh food, from bread and cakes to meat and dairy produce. 


32.12:  Dinnium Walk:
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An overview of the riverside walkway.


32.13  Gaillard Park:
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All sorts of impromptu street performers gather here and give shows in the four "stages" facing the canals.  For some reason the most popular are the poetry recitals.


32.14  Nuclear Power Plant:
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The Kinglish are a well educated lot and visits to the Nuclear Power Plant visitors centre are very popular.  Here you can find out exactly what goes on inside and how nuclear energy works.


I hope you enjoyed seeing some of the "locals" sights in Kingly.  There is still so much of the city to show you, but that will have to wait for another day.  In the meantime, I'll leave you with an overview of how the main part of the city is looking now.

32.15  Kingly Overview:
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As you can see, there are still areas that require development, but it's over halfway there now.

'til next time............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on April 27, 2008, 08:30:10 AM
That city overview is looking very good! And also your work on it is superb! :thumbsup:
Great work on Kingly!

Looking forward to more progress on it!  ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nedalezz on April 27, 2008, 08:39:06 AM
Massive update, one that oozes quality from the first pic to the last! Magnificent work with the Amsterdam re-creation, your canal system looks wonderful.

The second batch of pictures feature even more detail the first, and the improvements are well noticed.

The West End companies are doing really well in Qumma, and right now, excluding the neighboring African countries, West End had the largest expat number in Qumma!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on April 27, 2008, 08:49:02 AM
Paul simply wonderful here WOW!!! Ahh when I saw the word sint i thought it was a typo my bad there M8...  I do have to say I love the changes you have made in Leidseplein...  I cant wait to see update 33!!!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on April 27, 2008, 09:48:37 AM
You've really made some striking improvements, Paul, although I thought the original was pretty darn good! :thumbsup:

Love the trees in Leidsplein - what a difference that little touch made! :thumbsup: I'd like the bell and clock towers no matter what you did with them, and you've done a fine job on the diagonal seawalls in Outer Oosterdok.

The parks are a good idea, too. I'd never have thought of putting them near an industrial area, but ship watching was always fun when we used to spend a day or do down by the Gulf of Mexico. Gaillard Park is especially attractive, and the overview is stunning. I just had to look back at the beginning for comparison:

Then...
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And now...
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You've come a long way, my friend! And I know there are a lot more exciting things on the way!

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on April 27, 2008, 11:17:41 AM
Paul, it's always great to see a new update of Westend. And today is no exception to that rule...

The Leidseplein make over is very successfull - the trees give an additional flair to the square. It has a very Kingly atmosphere still, and that is what I like so much about this MD: you rebuild Amsterdam in a different way - but in such an unique style that is remains Kingly in every corner !

The Belltower area is indeed much more dense now - and fits an old town like Kingly. Like yourself, I am very pleased with the result.

The Outer Oosterdock metamorphosis worked out very well - the diagonal embankment pieces give the entire area a new fresh and more appealing look, and show proof of your building skills!

The Locks are another example of that.. Man, they are awesome. Especially the picture with the barges in the locks is gorgeous.  :satisfied:

The Oosterpark, the Craft Village and the Oostermarkt are also very nice places. I can believe that Kingly's inhabitants will spent some great Summer weekends in these places. And, this week being Queensday, I bet millions from the entire Westend will join them and party..... %BUd%

And the last overview over Kingly is just splendid (thank you Joan for posting the "nude" city as well - keeps us all from scrolling back some pages to check the progress). It indeed shows where you're comming from and how well you managed.

So - it's always a pleasure reading a West-End update, and am already looking forward to the next one.

:thumbsup:



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on April 28, 2008, 01:53:56 PM
Nice. I got lot to say about the recent great and quality updates, but I got no more time.  :-[ :-[
Good job, my friend!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: zero7 on April 28, 2008, 02:18:18 PM
I'm really enjoying the Kingly updates.  I particularly like way you've done the various squares and your use of market areas - makes the city feel much more alive.

One thing I have noticed is that quite a few props you have used have no shadows - that's easily fixed in PIM; just set IsGroundModel to 'Y'.



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on May 01, 2008, 05:09:09 AM
QuoteThe Kinglish are a well educated lot and visits to the Nuclear Power Plant visitors centre are very popular.  Here you can find out exactly what goes on inside and how nuclear energy works.

And leave with a healthy (green) glow as well  ;D

32.02 that looks even better. And the lock system is captured nicely  :thumbsup:

Paul, I know you have put a lot (a bloody lot) of work into this, and the results speak for themself.

And you even have Joan doing mini updates  ::) Well thats better than requests for stats  ;)

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on May 01, 2008, 12:36:17 PM
Hello Paul,

I didn't visit you for a long time - sorry! And now I'm shocked of the amount of work you put in West End development!
Joan is right, you've come a long way! Yes, West End looks different now, it is one of the most diversified and interesting places in the MD section  :thumbsup:
(Maybe we could organize a football competition this year too, we don't need to wait 4 years  :D, Btw, many girls from Shosaloza would love to visit West End  ;))

Kingly is a beautiful place, parks and markets are fantastic! I like also your use of canals, the general view of the port area is excellent!
And I think my next big city will be full of tramways, yours look perfect :thumbsup:

Adam

Edit: And I was right, it seems more people like your work  :D Congratulations Paul!!!  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on May 01, 2008, 12:43:51 PM
Congratulations, Paul!

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- The Staff
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on May 01, 2008, 01:06:05 PM
Yes!  West End definitely belongs here!  Congratulations Paul  &apls

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on May 01, 2008, 01:43:44 PM
Good work!  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on May 01, 2008, 02:20:05 PM
Congratulations on a well-deserved honor, Paul! :thumbsup: Looking forward to seeing what you have in store for us, and maybe even getting a sneak peek or two!

Soon, very soon...
Joan

Oh, and about that traffic and population data study you promised to do...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on May 01, 2008, 02:35:47 PM
Hi all,

Thanks to the staff for the OSITM.  It's funny when I started this MD I really didn't know where it was going, or how it would be received.  The whole experience has been great.  There have been highs (first OSITM, the footie tournament, but most of all the support and friendships gained) and there have been lows (losing 4 quads - 3 still to redevelop!, and fretting over leaving too long between updates).  But it has been worthwhile and I've learned so much along the way.

Funny thing is, the more I've got into the whole SC4 scene, Lotting, bit of modding, working with a team, the less time I have to actually "play".

Replies will come over the weekend, but in the meantime here are some region shots as a kind of Teaser for the month to come.......

MINI UPDATE 33 - 1st May 2008


33.01  West End overview:
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And click here (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=region001tl3.jpg) if you want to see a monster sized version (warning 1.4MB)

As you can see, I've really only scratched the surface so far!


33.02  Kingly overview:
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Still plenty to finish off and show you during this month.  As a clue for what's next........


33.03  "all aboard":
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'til next time.......... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on May 01, 2008, 02:38:47 PM
I was there!  (but promise I wont hijack your MD again...)

Jumping up and down my seat for exitement now  &hlp
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: rooker1 on May 02, 2008, 06:19:59 AM
Congratulations Paul.  Waht a well deserved move for you.
I have followed this MD from the very begining and maybe I don't post after everyone of your updates, but beleive me when I say, Your MD is awesome.  The work you have put into this canal system is incredible and far beyond my patience.
I would also like to welcome you to the Elite club of second timers to the OSITM.  There are only a few a few of us so far, but with MDs like your and several others, I can see that changing quickly.
And what a way to start the month, with an updat eright after your move.  Way to go my friend.
I'm going to sit here a push refresh until I see your next update..........just kidding, but I will be back.

Robin  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: ejc on May 02, 2008, 10:10:34 AM
well, that is some nice progress you made there!!  :satisfied:

it's nice to see a city like Amsterdam pointed out in a fictional MD.. you've got the feeling on that canal-city; great job!!

show us during this month some more unique projects!


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Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nardo69 on May 03, 2008, 03:25:15 AM
Congrats Paul to the well-deserved award!

That overview looks great - enough place for some dirty industrial outskirts, suburbs and farming...   ;)  ;D

Great work with all the kanals and tramways and vanderaaps although I am not completely happy with that railway and tramway crossing ... I mean it is not completely impossible but rather seldom especial on a 4 track main line ...  &mmm As an alternative you could do a tramway overpass especially since tramways can climb slopes up to 7%

Take care and don't forget to make backups

Bernhard  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on May 03, 2008, 03:39:52 AM
Paul, welcome to the OSITM x 2 club. Well deserved my friend  :thumbsup:

I now what you mean about finding time to actually play the game, it is getting harder in a NUTty sort of way  ::)
Your going to have to do something about that considering the size of your region, or you'll still be going when you
start drawing a pension :D

Dave


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on May 03, 2008, 05:32:55 PM
Paul nice mini update here and I cant wait to see the full monty here lol...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on May 04, 2008, 07:19:33 AM
REPLIES

Bat:  Thanks, I'm happy you like the overviews.

Nedalezz:  A compliment like that from you is much appreciated - and thanks for the info re Qumma/West End.

Pat:  Thanks and no worries.  And funny you should mention a film..... %confuso

Jmouse:  Hey Joan, I'm going to have to commission a whole update from you!  Thanks for the before and after pics, it is good to see them side by side like that.  And don't worry, I have a transport related update or two planned.

Sebes:  I know the Amsterdam theme has added extra interest for you and I am pleased that it get the Sebes seal of approval.  And yes Queensday has been celebrated in a big way in Kingly.  And now seeing Rhennen makes me think that there should be some kind of "twin city" arrangement.  And as for hijacking my MD - feel free to post whatever you feel appropriate, you know I'm pretty relaxed  :satisfied:

Bokrif:  Good to see you Krizstian and thanks for the comment.  And yes, I know what you mean about lack of time (that's why I'm not so often on the IPON boards recently).

Zero7:  Richard, thanks for your first post here in West End and thanks for the positive comments.  I respect ALL batters, because it's something I'd like to be able to do, but never really cracked it.  But there are a small circle of batters whose work just does it for me.  So much so that I can't wait to get my hands on their new stuff.  And Richard you are one of those - so please, keep them coming. :thumbsup:
Oh, and thanks for the tip re shadows - I'll apply that.

Tooheys:  Hahaha, yeah the green glow - always a nice look!  And yes, a lot of work has gone into Kingly, so I'm pleased you noticed!  I did wonder whether I should have counted Joan's post as update 33!  And as for the blank spaces in West End......yes I think I'm going to have to just do some "sprawl" on a couple of quads, just ot get the region looking a bit fuller.

Ennedi:  No worries, your visits are always good, so timing is not important!  I like the fact you say West End is diverse - I was worrying it was becoming too much of the same.  And as for the football tournament......Yes, there will be one soon.  I did think of doing it for this month as OSITM, but I did that before, so I have a feeling it will be June, or maybe July.  West End still remember the Shosazolan girls and are happy for more to come this time.

Thundercrack83:  Thank you Dustin.  It's nice to know that West End is hitting the right buttons to pick up a second OSITM - rest assured I'll do what I can to make the "S" stand out this month!

Diggis:  Hi Shaun, your first post in West End I think - thanks mate.  Hopefully there will be some Diggis bits and pieces popping up from now on.

Rooker1:  Robin.  Mind Scape is one of the most highly visited and regarded MDs here at Devo, so comments like that from you mean a lot to me.  And thanks for the welcome to the club, and not that I'm greedy or anything but I wonder if I'll ever join the OSITMx3 club!!

EJC:  Thanks for your comment.  I'm sure we were in OSITM together last time, let's hope we can both have a good month.  And as for a unique project, hopefully this update does it.

Nardo69:  Bernhard, good to see you here again.  Seeing as you are the SC4 "Rail-meisterGeneral", I have to take your comment seriously.  And you know, when I looked at the picture you are talking about you are 100% correct.   Hmmmm, but the space to re-work is limited.  Maybe the rail should be sunken so the tramway can go over the top.  I'll have to play around with that later.  Thanks for pointing it out.

THANK YOU to all who sent congrats re the OSITM.


UPDATE 34 - 4th May 2008

Well, I wanted to do something a bit different for OSITM.  I left a clue at the end of the last mini update - BUT, I changed my mind.......that will still follow but today's update is something very new for me.  It took about 3 hours to put it together and I am very pleased with the result.  It's not perfect by any means, but for a first attempt at this type of thing I am happy.

So, sit back, click on the flags below and hopefully enjoy.....and please I really want to hear what you think, good, bad, or otherwise........

34.01  Kingly and Amsterdam
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CLICK ABOVE


'til next time....... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on May 04, 2008, 08:05:14 AM
Paul  &hlp &hlp &hlp What to say... now you're making movies too? Awesome video...
very nice!
:thumbsup:

By the way - great logo with the two flags mixed!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on May 04, 2008, 08:09:32 AM
Nice overviews and nice flag there of Kingly and your whole region !!!

Congrats on this award!

Looking forward to the next...

Edit: And the video is also fantastic! Wonderful work on it!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on May 04, 2008, 09:17:44 AM
Very nice movie Paul, you motivate me to play with Youtube too!  :thumbsup:
I think our MDs will look different next year... ;)

I like the music very much, what's it?

Adam
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on May 05, 2008, 03:33:50 AM
Thats great!  I'll have to play again with the music it seems.  :P
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on May 05, 2008, 03:46:39 AM
A Dutch video, was looking for something a bit more, well, you know  :D

Great work Paul, that would have taken quite a bit of time to put together and the result was superb  :thumbsup:

I can see this is certainly going to be a place to hang over the next month. Keep it up my friend.

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: rooker1 on May 05, 2008, 08:35:34 AM
Paul,
I'm sure sooner or later lucky person/MD will start the x3Club.  Who knows it may even be you.  ;)
I like to see people use their imagination and come up with new ways to show off their MD.  I have seen this movie type before but you have pulled it off very well.  It's what sets certain MDs apart from everyone else's.  Not only was the movie great but the pictures you choose were awesome.
I think  this is going to be a great month with the MDs that are in OSITM.
I wait here patiently for your next update.
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on May 05, 2008, 10:22:40 AM
What a wonderful idea, Paul! You did a superb job of putting the video together, but more than anything, each picture brings back pleasant memories.

I remember how hard you worked on the canals at first, then how rewarding it was to watch the area develop. There were plenty of ups - those fantastic locks, Dam Square, the Canal Church of Sint Beatrix, the GLR and seeing your market lots in game to name a very few. And there were some downs, too - remember the pollution and no-job zots?

Then came the evolution.
Remember when that whale showed to announce a significant reduction in water pollution?! And remember how you solved the unemployment crisis? There have been some pleasant surprises along the way, too, like the trees in Leidsplein and a reworking of some canal shorelines.

The best part, however, has been the opportunity to share the experience with you as a teammate - to encourage, suggest discuss and have a few laughs along the way.

Excellent MDs don't just happen, they are created by authors who are willing to stretch their imaginations then push themselves a little harder to make unique things happen.

West End is an excellent MD because you made it happen!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on May 05, 2008, 10:35:37 AM
Paul that was a wonderful full monty there lol..... Great video and I know it was kinda funnie how that played off too  :D

I think Joan said it best here,

QuoteExcellent MDs don't just happen, they are created by authors who are willing to stretch their imaginations then push themselves a little harder to make unique things happen.

till the next update!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on May 05, 2008, 11:51:42 AM
Hi, Paul!

Your video is fantastic! What a superb and creative way to kick off your time in OSITM! If you keep things like this up, you will definitely be putting the "S" in OSITM, my friend!

Great work!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on May 05, 2008, 01:34:55 PM
Wow!!!  I'll have to come back when I've caught my breath...  &apls  The presentation was amazing... and I loved watching the tile actually build from scratch.  Some of the pictures went by a little quicker than I would have liked... but I know most of them are in here somewhere, so it's just another good reason to go back and look again.  Either way, I really enjoyed the video!  (I also liked the song a lot too, by the way)

JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: catty on May 06, 2008, 01:49:35 AM
Great Video and the music was just right  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on May 07, 2008, 02:59:26 AM
Very good city continuen  &apls &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on May 08, 2008, 01:30:38 PM
REPLIES:

A few of you asked about the music - it is a track called "The Ledge Beyond the Edge" from the album "Dive Deep" by Morcheeba.  I love Morcheeba's music and they have many more tracks that could be used for such videos.

Sebes:  First time I've had   &hlp &hlp &hlp  here - thanks!

Bat:  Thanks for the comment, glad you liked the video.

Ennedi:  I used Microsoft Movie Maker - very simple to use and uploading to YouTube was easy - give it a go.  My only dissapointment is that when viewing on YouTube you lose a lot of the quality.  The file I uploaded was 50MB!

Diggis:  Hehe, yeah I hope the music adds to the overall effect.

Tooheys:  Cheers Dave, no "under the counter" videos here  :o

Robin:  Thanks for that.  You're right there are a few SC4 videos on YouTube and I will do another one some time, but in the meantime I hope mine was just a little different.

Jmouse:  I'm humbled by your words - thank you.

Pat:  I remembered your movie you did and that is what pushed me in this direction (plus that track by Morcheeba told me to do it!), so thanks for being part of the inspiration  :thumbsup:

Thundercrack83:  Dustin - thank you for those kind words.  I hope I deliver!

JBSimio:  JB, thanks for your first comment in West End!  And thanks for such positive comments.  My idea was for the pics to pick up speed in time with the music as the song reached its peak at the end.  The loss of quality on YouTube was more marked on the last type of transition I used, so I know what you mean about not seeing them clearly.  Now, if only I could have had the 50MB Real Player version  ;)

Catty:  Another first timer - good to see you here and I'm glad you liked it.

Simpson:  Merci Simpson.


The YouTube video has had 75 views.  Now I know I probably account for 5 of those (testing and such), so come on you lurkers - post a comment to say what you think.  Us MD'ers appreciate any feedback, even if it's just one or two words  :D


TEASER:


I hope to post the next update over the weekend and it will be a canal boat tour of Kingly, so make sure you take your travel sickness pills!

34.02  Amsterdam Canal Tour:
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A montage of canal shots from Amsterdam


34.03  Kingly Damrak:
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This is where many of the city's canal boat tours start.  I just wish there were canal boat and landing stage bats to complete the picture.

And whilst you're waiting for the update, I saw this picture in my newspaper today, which shows us that colourful farm fields that you see in SC4 ARE REALISTIC! 

34.04  Dutch Tulip Fields
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"Northern Netherlands: Early May means fields full of tulips, like these seen from the air yesterday. More than three billion tulip bulbs are grown in the country every year, of which two thirds are exported. Tulips are such a Dutch icon that proposals have been made to build an island in the shape of a tulip plant off the coast of the Netherlands to rival Palm Island off Dubai. The first tulips in the Netherlands were brought from Constantinople, now Istanbul, via Vienna and planted in a garden at the University of Leiden 415 years ago. Today the area between Leiden and Haarlem is the centre of the Dutch bulb-growing industry."

Maybe I should create the "tulip island" the article refers to ;)


'til next time................ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on May 08, 2008, 01:52:45 PM
Hello, Paul!

I love the teaser, my friend--I can't wait to follow along through the canals! And those Dutch Tulip farms look great, too. I wouldn't mind seeing the Tulip Island, either.

Can't wait to see more!

Take care,

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on May 09, 2008, 03:07:45 AM
Quote from: paroch on May 08, 2008, 01:30:38 PM
This is where many of the city's canal boat tours start.  I just wish there were canal boat and landing stage bats to complete the picture.

Hmmm, maybe you will have to have a word with your Nutty compatriots and get something up and running.  ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on May 09, 2008, 03:32:28 AM
Paul, check all CSK stuff ie. PEG CSK2 and addons to it. You will find "Small Port" and "Water Taxis".

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You can use these lots without any changes. But you can also think about some lot editing. Water taxis and ships (at the Small Port) appear randomly at the waterfront. You can remove them and replace by the boat from Oppie Canal set, it looks very similar as these ones on your pictures.

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You can also leave CSK2 boats as they are and make a lot using Oppie boat with Oppie water texture replaced by CSK canals texture.

Adam
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on May 09, 2008, 03:57:21 AM
Hello Paul , I looked at your splendid video and I excuse myself delay  &ops

Really any east perfect in your video the images of the city actually adhesive perfectly with your creation, it is incredible  &apls

Then with impatient I say to you with the next update my friend  :thumbsup:




Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on May 09, 2008, 05:43:27 AM
Nice new teasers there! And looking forward to the canal tour! ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on May 09, 2008, 06:17:38 AM
Paul - to get the audience ready I have posted pictures of a canal tour I made last Easter with my brothers kids here (link) (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=4603.msg145936#msg145936).

And now I am Looking forward to a canal ride in Kingly next weekend  :thumbsup:
(by the way - I have clicked "replay" for your video several times to hear the music again - what a great song!)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on May 09, 2008, 02:21:10 PM
Paul

My apologies for my delay in getting here - you know why ;)
But what a way to start the your OSITM  &apls

Great video, and another morcheeba fan here :thumbsup: so really enjoyed it all. &apls &apls
Made me dig out the album to listen to it again so thanks for that alone.

Watching the canals and city developing was great and I can appreciate all the time it must have taken to get it right.
And the end result is equally impressive.

And you know how to tease too  :D :D

looking forward to the next installment.

regards
Derry

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on May 09, 2008, 05:49:17 PM
Paul thanks M8!! That means alot to me that you used me as a kick in the rump lol....  Hey Ive also figured it out how to get the video on the Devo without having to have it else where if you havent seen my md lately... Click on the flash button and set the settings to 800,600 and from youtube just cut out part of the link example of it here....

[flash=800,600]http://www.youtube.com/v/YvKVSAngGIM[/flash]

so just get that code out from the link that youtube gives you and put in and done...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on May 09, 2008, 07:31:25 PM
Quote from: paroch on May 08, 2008, 01:30:38 PM
JB, thanks for your first comment in West End!

Was that really my first comment here?!?  I deserve to be ()testing()! ()lurker()  I been checking in for so long, I feel terrible that I never said anything until now... my humblest apologies and all that good stuff.  Anyway, loved the teaser... and can't wait to see the real update!

JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on May 10, 2008, 03:07:15 PM
REPLIES

Thundercrack83:  Dustin, good to see you here and thanks for your comments.  Yeah, the tulip field is pretty impressive.  And maybe I really should do a tulip island - perhaps in a few quads time!

Diggis:  Well, Shaun, I kinda feel I've already asked a alot of you.  Luckily Adam's comment gave me some ideas.

Ennedi
:  Adam thanks for your VERY HELPFUL comment.  I already have PEG's CDK stuff (you'll see some in the update).  But Oppies canal pieces are very nice indeed.  Unfortunately it would be a MASSIVE task to replace the whole canal system with them, so I have found a compromise - see below.

Warconstruct
:  It's good to see you here again Paul and thanks for your comments - I am pleased you liked the video.

Bat
:  And now you don't have to wait any longer for the canal boat tour.

Sebes
:  You've excelled yourself with those pictures - thanks for sharing them, and I hope you don't mind me using a few!  Anyone who has got interested in Amsterdam whilst looking at this MD really should check out Sebes' pictures.  You'll also be able to judge whether I've done a good job with Kingly.  Hopefully you watched the video again and not just listened !!!

TeaCat
:  Derry, I'm glad you're OK, after hearing of your accident I wondered how you were.  Good to see you here again, and yes Morcheeba are brilliant, even since Skye has left them they still sound great.  And so many of their tracks would work for an MD video - maybe I should do another some time.

Pat
:  Thanks for your comment and that code.  That will be soooooo much better.  I'll have to play around with it.  I also need to catch up with Waterfalls - I'm on my way!

JBSimio
:  Hey, there are so many MDs it's impossible to comment in all of them, so no worries.  And here is the "real" update!


UPDATE 35 - 10th May 2008.


Welcome back to Kingly for an update I've been looking forward to myself for some time.  No visit to Kingly is complete without taking a canal boat tour of the city.  Canals are so important to the city, that you really need to see the city from them.  So today we're going to go on a canal boat tour with Reederij P Kooij, one of Kingly's longest established tour boat companies. 

35.01 Overview of the route:
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We start at the red circle on Damrak and then take a clockwise circuit shown by the yellow line.


35.02 Damrak - all aboard.
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Following Ennedi's helpful comment, I have re-done the Damrak basin using Oppie's canal set.  I found it impossible to create a custom lot with the canal boat on PEG's water, as the Oppie water and boat are one prop joined together.  I think in a future city I will use the Oppie canals for a change - but it is too big a job to re-do them here in Kingly

Anyway, all aboard our boat, Reederij is ready to go.


35.03  Inner Oosterdok:
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We start by going under the Prins Hendrikkade Bridge and turn starboard into the Inner Oosterdok.  On the right you can see one of the only working docks still in the city centre.  Looks like they are having a break before the next barge is due.


35.04  Hendrikkade Drawbridge:
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Another starboard turn takes us under the Hendrikkade drawbridge and into the Oude Schans which is where many barges dock when waiting for their cargos to be ready.  We see the transition from Industrial units into Shops along Prins Hendrikkade and residential along the Oude Schans.


35.05  Montell's Tower:
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Here is a full size replica of the Montelbaarnstoren that is found in Amsterdam.  The flag of the Netherlands is flying in honour of Queensday, which is celebrated by many of the Dutch families here in Kingly.


35.06  Montelbaarnstoren:
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And here is the real thing, picture taken by Sebes (hope you don't mind me using this Sebes).


35.07  Joedenstraat:
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On the left you will see a mix of smaller traditional gabled canal houses together with some more modern family homes.  And on the right is the Garonsplein.  A group of houses huddle round a little know gem of Kingly, the Garons Music Gazebo, where many classic musician perform during the summer months.


35.08  Den Haag Tower:
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On the left is Den Haag Tower, the tallest building in Kingly.  The tower, along with the complex of modern apartments behind it was built five years ago to house the offices and workers of the Kingly Bank Nederland (KBN).  This bank facilitates trade between West End and the Netherlands and employs over 2,000 people in Kingly alone.


35.09  Amstel River and Gaillard Park:
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You'll notice that the canal has widened here.  In fact we are now on the Amstel river.  One of Holland's most famous beers takes its name from this very river.  Luckily the beer tastes better than the river!
Gaillard Park is certainly worth a visit to watch the magnificent fountains.


35.10  Keizersgracht:
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We now take another starboard turn into Keizersgracht.  It is rumoured that this canal is named after Keizer Willhem III who had a fancy residence overlooking this canal.


35.11  Row Houses:
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On the left is perhaps one of the finest examples of traditional Dutch canal row houses in all of Kingly.


35.12  Amsterdam canal row houses:
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And for me, this picture shows just what a great job Vanderaap did when creating these awesome Bats.


35.13  Willhelm Park:
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And on the right is Willhelm Park.  This park is very popular for picnics on sunny weekends.


35.14  Clock Tower
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And if you look behind you, you'll see we have just passed underneath the Clock Tower.  The largest clock tower in all of Kingly.


35.15  The Church of Sint Johan:
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If you look in front of the boat you will see we are about to pass underneath the church.  And you can see the statue of the great man himself behind the church.


35.16  Leidsestraat:
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And now we pass underneath the Leidsestraat, the pedestrianised shopping street that leads to the Leidseplein (to the left).


35.17  Boat under Tram:
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You can see just how low the bridges really are (thanks again Sebes).


35.18  Dam Boulevaard:
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This main road runs from Dam Square (to the right) out to western Industrial area.


35.19  More Kingly Row Houses:
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35.20  More Amsterdam Row Houses:
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35.21  Prinsenbruek:
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On the right is the area known as Prinsenbruek.  These are some of the most expensive houses in Kingly.  There are not many detached houses with gardens right in the centre - so they are quickly snapped up whenever they come on the market.


35.22  Brouwersgracht:
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And now we are on Brouwersgracht.  This is the main road into the centre from the west.  During rush hours the traffic backs up as the trams whiz past.


35.23  Central Station:
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And we are almost back to the start point now.  On the right are many offices and hotels and on the left (out of shot) is the Central Station.


35.24  Damrak Basin:
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And here we are back in the Damrak Basin.  This time with the original PEG canal set.
This time we are looking from Damrak across the basin to the backs of the houses on Wormoestraat.


35.25  Reederij P Kooij:
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And that's the end of our tour for today.  Captain Reederij hopes you enjoyed the trip.


I have to admit that I cheated a bit with the pictures.  I just cut and pasted the canal boats into the pictures.  But hopefully it wasn't tooooooo obvious and you'll forgive me!

In the next update we'll take a tour of the tram system in Kingly.

'til next time.............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nardo69 on May 10, 2008, 03:33:04 PM
Wonderful tour. I agree with you on vanderaap's oeuvre, I just wasn't able to let them grow as dense as you did. But when I compare the effect of oppie's and PEG's channels I must commit that on most pictures Oppie's kanal pieces would fit in better ...

About the beer, well, bad rumours are that it is just vice versa .... (bad joke from the neighbours in the west I know ..  ;)  :D  ;D )
I had been in Amsterdam only once years ago in a week of sunshine between months of rain :) but I like the memories - and I did enjoy beer their (as well as cheese .. ;) )

Take care my friend and don't forget to make backups

Bernhard  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on May 10, 2008, 03:46:26 PM
An excellent tour Paul - and I don't mind at all that you used some of the pictures - I feel flattered that you did so...

Your tour seems even better than the one in RL a few weeks ago. Good to start with an overview (for Joan probably  ;)  but also handy for the rest of us). The boats that you have dropped here and there in the city canals make it very complete, and looks very good. The one under the open bridge, with the barge, is soooooo nice (30.5). It will be to much to comment them all, and too boaring for all readers. 
However, the Den Haag tower and surrounding apartments must be mentioned (30.8). That looks so very cool, and exactly how some parts of the innercity were rebuild in the 70's (near Jodenbreestraat and Wibautstaat) .

Good job Paul - I enjoyed to tour. I will show it my nephew too, he'll probably like yours better  :thumbsup:


Quote from: Nardo69 on May 10, 2008, 03:33:04 PM
About the beer, well, bad rumours are that it is just vice versa ....
That is not a rumour Bernard - it's truth - and what worse is...  :-X Ah no, don't want to spoil Paul's fun when drinking Amstel next time  $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on May 10, 2008, 04:09:30 PM
Fantastic update Paul!

I started to write down my favourite pictures, but stopped after the 10th one  :D
Excellent idea of the boat tour! The overview is impressive, it shows how large is the downtown area. I'm very glad you found my suggestion useful  :) The temporary method you used was very good done and absolutely reasonable - it's a crucial point of this tour, and I'm sure you will find a nice solution in future  ;)
I'm surprised there are so much Dutch houses, it seems I didn't collect all of them  $%Grinno$%
Your combination of canals, streets and tramway lines is first class, it looks both charming and realistic  &apls. As I said I like all pictures, but two of them are something special for me: the Keizersgracht and the Church of Saint Johan - that's a beautiful place!

Great update and great continuation of the OSITM show in West End!  &apls


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on May 10, 2008, 06:13:16 PM
And I do, indeed, thank you very much for beginning with an overview, Paul! :thumbsup: What a wonderful tour you have given us of Kingley's canal system. 35.04  Hendrikkade Drawbridge stands out as a fine piece of work, as does 35.05  Montell's Tower. The rest are very attractive too, of course, and you've done a great job of placing the RL photos, too.

At first, I didn't think much of the Dutch BATs one way or the other - nice work and superbly detailed, but nothing I would ever use. Seeing them in Kingly, however, has helped me gain a new appreciation for their beauty and authenticity, though.

You are doing a great job, and I know how hard you work to get things just right, but believe me, it's worth every minute spent!

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on May 11, 2008, 06:39:05 AM
Paul,

What a wonderful way to spend Sunday. A nice relaxing boat trip.
I really enjoyed watching Kingly grow and develop and then top it all off by displaying it so well also.(video/pics  &apls)

I would love to grab my bike and go for a ride there. Could you please direct me to the nearest Cyclehire shop
so I can go looking for a coffeeshop teashop ::)  :D :D

Thats about the only thing thats missing some bike racks near the stations etc - again me being super picky ::)

Another fantastic update Paul, I really enjoyed it thank you.

:satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on May 11, 2008, 09:51:26 AM
That's a really fantastic update there, paroch!

The boat tour is excellent! Wonderful pictures of your Kingly!! :thumbsup:

Looking forward to the next...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on May 11, 2008, 12:22:26 PM
Wow... now that's an update!!!  Great job, Paul!   &apls

As others have said, the drawbridge (35.04) is one of my favorite pictures... as is the tower in 35.05.  35.11 shows just how much work you must have put into this.  Getting everything to grow together like that is no easy task and the results were well worth the time you must have spent.  I also love the park in 35.13... I'm not sure what it is exactly, but it really catches the eye and just looks so nice there.  I could go on and on for days... but I'll close with a question instead.  Could you point me towards the Den Haag Tower building?  I see to have missed that one, but I really like it.

Once again... fantastic update, and I'm already waiting for the next round.   :thumbsup:

JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on May 11, 2008, 01:52:53 PM
REPLIES

Nardo69
:  Aha Bernhard, well there are two reasons I got the Vanderaaps to "grow" so densely.....(a) the only residentials in my plugins for Kingly are by Vanderaap and Haarlemergold, (b) I also customised some of their buildings into ploppables so that I could place them and overcome the massive unemployment issues I was having (see earlier updates).  As for the canals - yes, both PEG's and Oppie's sets have their pros and cons.  I prefer the water colour and bridges on Oppie's, but prefer the water texture and more options available on PEG's.  Also the fact that Oppie's has a lowered walkway does not fit with the Amsterdam look I was trying to achieve (I think). 
And as for the Amstel, well after three or four pints they all taste the same anyway!

Sebes:  Thanks for the use of the pics - glad you liked seeing them.  And thanks for your great comments too.  I'm glad you liked the Den Haag tower and surroundings, I was not sure whether all those rows of apartments would be too much.  And please, let me know what your nephew thinks.  As for the Amstel - maybe I should stop drinking it  ()sick()

Ennedi:  Hehehehe, you only liked ten pictures  ;)  Seriously thanks for the great comment.  I enjoyed cutting and pasting the boats - but maybe I'll find a way round the problem in future.  And yes, between Vanderaap and Haarlemergold (plus a few from Tatooed Millionaire) there are plenty of dutch bats out there (took me ages to download them all).

Jmouse:  Hey Joan, what would I do without your great and supportive comments  :wings: ?  And as for the dutch bats, I'll get you using them yet!!

TeaCat:  I'm surprised you're so keen to get back on the bike Derry!  Still, the drivers in Kingly are used to many cyclists so I am sure would be much more careful.  As for the bike racks - hmmmmm, not downloaded any yet.  Maybe another thing to add to the list!

Bat:  Cheers my friend, thanks for your comment.

JBSimio:  I'm glad you enjoyed it and thanks for telling me which pics stood out for you.  The Willhelm Park is a very simple park with two fountains, but sometimes that's all you need I guess.  As for the tower, STEX is down at mom, so I'll find link later.  It is called Den Haag Zurichtoren (or Zurichtoren Den Haag) and I'll post link over next day or three.



UPDATE 35B  11th May 2008


I am calling this update 35B, because it is virtually exactly the same as 35.  No new pictures I'm afraid, but seeing as a boat tour is supposed to be relaxing, I thought that maybe scrolling through 25 pictures and reading all the text may be a bit of hard work.  So this time, sit back, relax and click on the video clip below.  Nothing new or fancy, but hopefully you'll enjoy the ride.

And make sure you have your volume turned UP.  This is a beautiful piece of music (IMHO), so whilst you lose some quality in the pics with YouTube, the music should compensate.

http://www.youtube.com/v/2ezskZVzRsI


'til next time........ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: zero7 on May 11, 2008, 02:16:29 PM
I thought the boat tour was good with the still pictures, but the video just takes it to another level.  You're getting pretty good at putting these videos together and I thought you chose an appropriately soothing piece of music for something as sedate as a canal cruise.  Very nicely done  :)

I'm looking forward to seeing where you take West End next.


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on May 11, 2008, 03:34:52 PM
Paul, that video was a real treat, and you're right about the music - it is just lovely.

The things you have accomplished in Kingly
are amazing and I wonder if even you had a completely clear vision of the finished product! Considering your progress, though, I'm sure you've been on the right track from the very beginning! I must say the canal tour in the May 10 update was beautifully done, but the video has brought it to life. I'm there! :thumbsup:

You and a handful of other talented MDers continue to raise the standards of excellence, and I hope the newcomers are watching and learning from your example!

Until next time...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on May 11, 2008, 04:10:43 PM
I fully agree with what the lady above me said so very well ^ ^  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on May 11, 2008, 05:09:53 PM
&apls &apls

You are certainly raising the bar here Paul   :thumbsup:
The video of the pics all together actually made it better I think. Ok so the pic quality suffered a little
but after the first few seconds it didn't matter. It was nice to see the pics change instead of having to scroll
all the time  ::) ::) Again a great piece of music too &apls

Update 35b complements 35(a?) splendidly - Well done

regards
Derry
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on May 11, 2008, 07:45:16 PM
Great video, Paul!  I enjoyed the music a lot and it really brought the tour to life.  No hurry on the link as I doubt I'll download it until I get back on my regular computer anyway.  Looking forward to the next display!

JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on May 12, 2008, 03:47:31 AM
OK, finally watched the Vid's with the music.  Very nice work.  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on May 12, 2008, 08:11:40 AM
Congrats on that beautiful video! Wonderful work on it, paroch! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on May 12, 2008, 01:18:42 PM
Beautiful video, Paul. The pictures, the music--it was just what I needed on a rainy day like this (in Pennsylvania) to help me relax. Excellent work, my friend.

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on May 14, 2008, 07:11:00 PM
Great video and beautiful music, Paul! Very good idea with the movement!  :thumbsup:
And losing some quality in Youtube gives an interesting side effect - looking at the boat you can see something like flowing water (or at least I can see it  :D)

I was thinking how to add music to pictures from a very long time. Now you showed these movies and pushed me in the new direction - thank you!  ;D

Adam
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on May 14, 2008, 07:40:04 PM
Paul simply great video and also a wonderful complement to update 35!!!  I loved the music... The only thing I thought was funnie was with tram turning the corner there in one of the pics but other then that  :thumbsup:  Im glad I saw how Wou pulled it off in anther thread to get it right myself with linking the video's directly here, instead of clicking elsewhere...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: callbat on May 14, 2008, 09:21:39 PM
Excellent update Paul (may I call you Paul?  :D) I agree, the music was absolutely lovelly and Kingly is looking absolutely beautiful, and incredibly realistic!

I absolutely love it!

  Cheers mate,
   
      -Callbat   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on May 14, 2008, 10:46:08 PM
Another fine update Paul. I like how you blend in the RL pics, that really adds to the movie.

Can't wait to see what you come up with next.

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warszawa on May 15, 2008, 01:09:53 PM
Wow... I'm in total love with that video, it's so peaceful, quaint and calm. I see that alot of effort has been put into this city, so congrats mate. It's no wonder this MD is in the 'Special Interest this Month' thread. Keep up the hard work and see you soon. :thumbsup:

Alex
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: mattb325 on May 15, 2008, 11:56:24 PM
Paroch - great stuff here! I love the mix of RL pictures with the canals of Kingley!!!!!  ;D   &apls The movie was very relaxing...pity about the loss of quality, but that can't be helped
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on May 16, 2008, 02:57:18 PM
REPLIES:

I'm sure most of you recognised the music, but just in case it is the theme from The Deer Hunter by John Williams.  I heard it performed by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra at the Royal Albert Hall in London last week and it really was beautiful.

Zero7/Richard:  Good to see you here again.  Thanks for those kind words.  I intend to give a tour and details of the city tram system shortly.  I already have a piece of music and ideas in mind for the video  &idea

Jmouse/Joan:  Yeah, the music seemed appropriate.  Did I have the finished city in mind?  Yes and no!  I knew what I wanted to achieve and I am pleased with the way the canals have turned out.  I'm disappointed that I've had to "cheat" a bit by creating ploppables - but to create the look I wanted, I had to. 
And thanks for the massive compliment!

Sebes:  And of course, you really are there!  Did you spot your name in the credits?

TeaCat/Derry
: Hey, thanks for those encouraging words.  I'm not sure about raising the bar.  I have to admit that I enjoy making the videos, so I think you'll see them from time to time (mustn't over do it though).

JBSimio
:  I think that the choice of music is key in creating the video, so I'm pleased you liked it.  Link is included below btw.

Diggis/Shaun:  Thanks mate, glad you liked it with the sound on  ;)

Bat
:  Thanks there bat.

Thundercrack83/Dustin
:  Hey, I'm glad it helped you relax on a rainy day.

Ennedi/Adam:  Thanks for the compliments Adam.  Yeah, I discovered the "effects" menu in Movie Maker!  And if you create a movie from your MD I have a feeling it will be special.

Pat:  Yes, a BIG thank you to you for telling me the code, you're right it's much better.  And yes, that pesky tram on the corner.  I'll have to watch out for that in my tram update!

Callbat:  Feel free to call me Paul.  Thanks for those kind words - I enjoyed Kent, so am pleased you like this.

Tooheys/Dave:  Glad you enjoyed it mate.  Including RL pics works in Kingly because it is an imitation of RL.  Not sure if I'll be able to pull it off on a future quad.

Warszawa/Alex:  Welcome to West End - always good to see a first time poster.  I'm so pleased so many of you have commented on how much you enjoyed the video.  And yes, there have been plenty of hours sunk into this quad!  Pop by again some time.

MattB325
:  I always enjoy your visits and you probably spotted plenty of your buildings in the city and hopefully your name in the credits of the video!


UPDATE 36:  16th May 2008

On the canal boat tour we saw the Den Haag Tower.  Both Sebes and JBSimio commented on it, so I thought we'd have a closer look today.

36.01  Den Haag Tower:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg522.imageshack.us%2Fimg522%2F6105%2Fimg0195dy8.jpg&hash=0b929bf34dc4b1b056f460e24d26fffc5951a1d6)
Home of the Kingly Bank Nederland (KBN).  You can see the tower is well served by bus routes.


36.02  Zoom Out:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg186.imageshack.us%2Fimg186%2F5791%2Fimg0193tb5.jpg&hash=27e1c0593e7e3403a01fde63357843772c7d688c)


36.03  And Zoom Again:
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We're looking from the Cantral Station south towards the tower.  This also gives you a good idea of the housing complex that was built as part of the same complex.


36.04  Apartments around a Garden:
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City centre living at reasonable prices.  Many of the residents of these apartments work for KBN in the tower.  A two minute walk to the office.


36.05  Joy in Repetition:
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There's a Prince song called "Joy in Repetition" and this picture makes me think of it.  These SWI21 apartments are really nice buildings.  They come in different colours, so I created a custom plopable using the prop family which has various colour versions of the same building.  And this was the result.


36.06  Overview:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg511.imageshack.us%2Fimg511%2F258%2Fimg0198ww5.jpg&hash=8a881f9895adab1cbae2643f1bff86c8218afbb0)
And here you can see jus what a large chunk of real estate the Den Haag complex sits on.

If you like the tower (as I know JB does), it is by Haarlemergold and here's the link (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=15816).


The night lighting on the canals works really well (IMHO), so here are a couple of different night shots....

36.07  Night time 1:
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36.08  Night time 2:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg88.imageshack.us%2Fimg88%2F7316%2Fimg0200vv6.jpg&hash=6f8f4368a468e5afef7d501dda42e22f86aee103)


The next proper update will focus on the city's tram system, so as a teaser I thought you'd like this.  JThe start of the Leidsestraat, one of the busiest parts of the tram network.  Count how many trams are in the shot...

36.09  Trams Teaser:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg258.imageshack.us%2Fimg258%2F8365%2Fimg0213uh2.jpg&hash=763932c717e51d181a08ede9903b18d1d746ec16)

There will be a tram video, but not until after I've finished the trams update(s)!

'til next time.............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on May 16, 2008, 02:58:42 PM
Welcome to the Classics, Paul. West End has been a constant source of inspiration and entertainment since its debut Sept. 1, 2007. Now it will take its rightful place among the all-time great regions showcased here.

Congratulations
on this achievement, and now get back to work!

Later...
Joan

*Edit* Just thought I should add a few words here explaining that I've already commented on your update privately, and really love it! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nardo69 on May 16, 2008, 03:09:59 PM
Hi Paul!

Repetition is one of the things in SC4 that makes the players go for custom content and made plugin folders of 2 GB size and more - I am not an exception of this. And sometimes I hated these swi BATs - especially when I wanted something special from Harlemmergold etc but in that area they do look good - like one of those model social housings that have been made in a lot of places in the first half of the last century.
Brief: I like it!  :)
Only thing I don't like there are the "Bus Stop Holes" - maybe a modded bus stop with one of Swi's BAT would have been better there, giving it a "close" look if you know what I mean.

That overview is marvelous, but I am still asking myself if it wouldn't look much better with oppie's kanals - especially when I see the last pic with those zigzag - borders ...

Take care my friend - and don't forget to make backups!

Finally I must say I am a bit envious - I guess with my updating - "speed" I will never make it to the classics - anyway: Congratulation!  &apls

Bernhard  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on May 16, 2008, 03:54:34 PM
Another lovely update here Paul &apls

I like the housing complex and the way it fits in so well in the overall view &apls

Back in the classics also - nice to see you here too mate :thumbsup:


:satisfied:
TTC

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on May 16, 2008, 08:43:28 PM
Another great update, Paul!   &apls  I especially liked 36.04 this time for a couple reasons.  The apartment complex works very well with the repetition, but the color differences are just enough to give it some character too.  What I really like, though, is that you just used the standard medium flower gardens for your center piece.  With so much great content available, it's easy to forget that the basics are still good in their own right... and you proved that quite well here.   :thumbsup:

And of course, thank you for the link!  See you next time...

JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on May 17, 2008, 02:30:32 AM
Great update Paul.  Makes me want to return to Holland again.  Looking forward to your tram update.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on May 17, 2008, 02:36:14 AM
Great update again there, paroch! And wonderful new pictures of that area! Like the day and night shots! Looking forward to the next update... ;)

AND CONGRATS ON MORE THAN 500 replies!! &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on May 17, 2008, 05:02:05 AM
Paul - I thank you for showing this area in detail. I was indeed intrigued when seeing picture 35.8 a few pages back (link) (http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/8717/tour05hv1.jpg), in the canalride update.

The background story of the KBN and the surrounding housing project are very realistic. On some spots in the old town similar projets were build in the 70's, when the metro(subway) was build. Old neighbourhoods (with bad housing) were torn down and new, modern, but nowadays perceived as very ugly complexes came in return. See this picture of St Antonies Breestraat (link) (http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afbeelding:St_antoniesbreestraat.jpg) (you can see Waag/Nieuwmarkt at the end of the street).
Well - I enjoyed looking at the quarter in the different zoomlevels - and I am very teased by the tram-video teaser...


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on May 18, 2008, 02:26:12 PM
REPLIES:

Jmouse/Joan:  Thanks for pushing West End into the 500+ comments and into the Classics section - I am very happy!  And don't worry, your "00" club honour will follow sometime soon.

Nardo69/Bernhard:  Thanks for your thoughts there.  I know what you mean how some bats just look wrong in certain places but so right in others.  And yes, I know you are right about those bus stops.  I like the SG ones and they would have looked good there, but the way my plugins are organised meant that I had to sacrifice them for this quad - but don't worry they will return in future.  And yes the diagonal canals would have been nice - but based on how long it took to lay the canals originally I think I'd be looking at about 10 hours work there to replace them all!
And as for update speed, well it is OSITM, so I am trying to keep them coming - but this weekend has been short of time, so the update is only short this time  :(

TeaCat/Derry:  Well, it's great to be in Classics.  I feel as though I'm joining some real heavyweights!

JBSimio/Jon:  You're right, we often overlook the maxis stuff - and I'm glad you like it here, it just kinda fitted.  I often use the 3x3 maxis plaza just because I like it so much.

Diggis/Shaun:  Ah, well if I'm bringing back good memories then that's good enough for me  :satisfied:

Bat:  Thanks as always and I see you're about to hit 500 as well (I think everyone is waiting, wanting to be number 500!)

Sebes:  Cheers for posting that pic - very interesting with the bikes and the Waag in the background.  Funnily enough I used to work for ABN (a long time ago before it merged with Amro) so the KBN/ABN link seemed appropriate.


UPDATE 37:  18th May 2008


Well, I've been working on my tram update but it's taking longer than I expected, plus I've been distracted by a couple of other things.  So today's update is a small one for me, I hope you'll forgive me.  But it has still taken a long time to put together!  Looking at the week ahead of me, I think the next update will be next weekend - it's a 3 day weekend here, so hopefully I'll get more done!

37.01  Tram Layout Overview:
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Here is an overview of the city as it stands today.  I've placed a name tag in each of the tram stations with its name.  (I missed one out though, 'doh).
You can also see that the north bank is getting more developed now.  Still using only Vanderaap and Haarlemergold, but no canals.


37.02  Transit Map of Kingly:
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And here is the official Kingly transit map.  There are five lines as follows:

Red Line:  Nieuwplein to Luijkenplatz via Central Station and Leidseplein.


Brown Line:  Ooster Park loop.  From Ooster Park, via Rembrandt Square, Damrak and Central Station back out to Ooster Park.


Green Line:  Ooster Park to Suderwald via Central Station and Rhenenplein.


Orange Line:  Ooster Park to Suderwald via Rembrandt Square and Leidseplein.


Blue Line:  Circle route serving Central Station, Dam Square, Rembrandt Square, Vondell Park and Rhenenplein.


Future updates will give you a closer look at each route, with some facts and figures plus some pictures.

In the meantime here is a VERY quick little vid.  I've been playing around with the in-game animation recorder.  I need to see how long a clip I can record, but thought you may be interested to see how it looks.  Be warned, it is REAL short!  It's looking at the junction of Leidsestraat and Singel.  The first tram you'll see is a "blue" circle line tram and the second is an "orange" line tram heading down towards Leidseplein.

37.03  Quick Tram Vid:
http://www.youtube.com/v/VyQZ0mZ5dCc


'til next time............... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on May 18, 2008, 02:45:17 PM
Yep you were right that was quick :D :D

Great transportation map and having the stations pointed out really helped in seeing the general layout of the network &apls &apls

Take your time with the update as it will be special I think, just like this was ;D ;D

:satisfied:

TTC
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on May 18, 2008, 04:35:39 PM
Quick video, yes, but a very effective teaser, Paul! That transit map is fantastic, BTW, and the annotated overview must have taken hours! So you've left me standing at the station, ticket in hand, waiting to see more!

Later, but not too late!
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on May 18, 2008, 07:33:55 PM
I LOVE that transit map, Paul! I just love it!

Oh, and by the way, when your time in OSITM is up at the end of the month, you'll be headed to the Classics! Congratulations, my friend!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on May 19, 2008, 02:24:42 PM
REPLIES:

Derry: Well that is probably the shortest vid to be posted on any MD to date!  I'm glad you liked the transportation map.  Gradually putting the next update together.

Joan:  Glad you liked the teaser - there will be more to come......later.  And believe it or not, the overview didn't take too long to put together, whereas that transit map took a couple of hours!  Just hold on to that ticket.

Dustin:  Glad you appreciated the transit map and thanks for the welcome to Classics  :)

DOUBLE ZERO UPDATE:  19th May 2008

For a reminder of the previous "double zeros" click here (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg132766#msg132766).

Post 500 - Jmouse 16 May 2008
Joan (Jmouse) has made more posts here in West End than anybody else (in fact she has made 65 posts here, about 12% of all posts made), so it is only right that she bagged the 500th post and joined the illustrious members of the double zero club. 
If you've been following Joan's "Mouse House" thread, you'll know how much time and effort she has put into learning to bat, so in honour of Joan's commitment to both West End and The Mouse House, Jmouse, is hereby declared official house builder to West End:

37.04  In honour of Jmouse:
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And here is a teaser for the next update:

37.05  Central Station Trams:
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'til next time....... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on May 19, 2008, 02:36:42 PM
Mouse House!  &dance &dance &dance
That's a really well deserved honour, Joan!

Paul, I just love your tram video!  :D :thumbsup:
And your railway and tram station is excellent, what will we see next?...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on May 19, 2008, 02:47:46 PM
Hey, congratulations, Joan! The Mouse Houses look fantastic!

And congrats again to you, Paul, for 500+ comments! I look forward to the Central Station update!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on May 19, 2008, 07:59:32 PM
Oh, Paul, I love it! :D Really I do. You're too good to me! It was my pleasure to make the post which propelled you into the Classic Section, but it was your hard work and dedication that made the opportunity possible. The Mouse really does need to find a paint sale and cover up that awful orange exterior, BTW! In its present state, one MH goes a long way, but hundreds of them are a bit much! :o

On another track
, faithful West End follower and supporter that I am, my tram ticket is starting to burn a hole in my pocketbook! You always do make the wait more than worth while though, and I'm sure this time will be no exception!

Until the next tram arrives...
Joan

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on May 20, 2008, 01:22:28 AM
That's a very nice Transit Map of Kingly there! Also nice little tram video!

And the teaser for the next update is also very good!

And congrats to Jmouse for posting here the 500th comment!! ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on May 20, 2008, 01:56:31 AM
Congrats Joan, and congraulations on your first subdivision.  Although I think next time let me know and I'll sort you out a better landscape architect.  :D
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on May 20, 2008, 04:55:07 PM
WOW Paul Ive missed a few here baaaaad me, Im sowwies!!!! Doing some great stuff here and I loved the tram clip and the Jmouse subdivision!!!  Also a congrats to you Joan for bringing Paul to the classics after he leaves OSITM and also making the most post here!!!

One question though Paul who would be second in the post here???
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on May 21, 2008, 11:35:30 AM
Paul - catching for breath after two great updates. The transit map is very good - and I will come very handy for sure during the promissed ride that we'll make soon. I have absolute no clue how to make things like that - and especially when noticing how professional it's looking I am starting to admire you even more. This MD, starting with the first soccer competition ever, then with the picture "contest" that you did, the amsterdam rebuilding, the video's and the tram map now is absolutely giving more dimensions to the section. You can be proud of yourself my friend!

I blinked so missed the fun in the video (  $%Grinno$% not) ... I absolutely love it. It's seems the quality is also improving compared to the first video, or is it just that in my head you're slowly turning into a MD-god being able to do just about everything and just about perfect? Or am I just being so thrilled from exitement...

The mouse-house 00-tribute is a very nice gesture - Joan deserves that for all her contributions. 

Looking forward to what will be comming next Paul....  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on May 22, 2008, 04:42:28 AM
Well its ummmm, hmmmmm, huh, well ORANGE ;D I think you might need an exterminator my friend, those meeces can get out of control, and look like they already have  ::)

Always a pleasure to visit West End and you continue to impress. Nice work with the transportation map and I like how you have shown the stops in the overview  :thumbsup:

And welcome to the classics. Well deserved.

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: FrankU on May 22, 2008, 04:51:31 AM
Paroch!
This place looks soo much like the Central Station in Amsterdam...
The only things I really miss is the exceedlingly high number of bicycles locked to the bridges and the canal boats.
You could consider to use Oppies canals. They look a bit more like Amsterdam's and he has made very Amsterdam like boats and a raising canalbridge. You can find them here:
http://www.simcitycentral.net/forum/index.php?f=14
Register first.....
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on May 22, 2008, 09:27:42 AM
Beautiful!

That's all I can say about West End
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on May 23, 2008, 04:26:33 PM
REPLIES:

Adam:  We don't often see pink elephants in West End, so thanks!  Which part of the 14 second tram video did you like  ;) ?  And here's what's next!

Dustin:  Thanks for that and here's the update.

Joan:  I'm glad you liked the double zero celebration.  And the wait is over, hold on to your ticket and grab a window seat  :)

Bat
:  Thanks my friend, glad you liked the transit map.

Shaun:  Do you know any decent landscape architects -  :D !  Thanks for the visit.

Pat
:  Hey, don't worry about missing an update.  I know it's hard to keep up with so many MDs here and you always seem to catch up!  And as for who has the second most posts in West End...... Well, I do keep track (for a future update maybe?) and it is bat.  Don't worry Pat, you're certainly in the top 5!

Sebes:  Thanks for a great comment and great compliments.  Believe it or not I made the transit map using MS Paint!  I am a simple person and it is a simple programme!  Travelling everyday on the London Underground means that the map is heavily based on their style.  And you're not the only one to mention the football competition - maybe it's time for another?  I think the video looked better quality because it was in a smaller frame  of 425x355 pixels instead of 800x600.  And an MD-God - thanks for the compliment, but I don't think so!  So long as I'm enjoying it and a few of you continue to post, then I'll keep going!

Dave:  Hehehe, exterminator!  Having seen a sneak preview of the rendered Mouse House I'm looking forward to updating that housing estate to make it a bit less orange!  Although orange does seem appropriate whilst West End is going through its current Dutch phase.

FrankU
:  Welcome to West End, and thanks for your first post here.  I'm glad you like my Amsterdam look.  Yes, I would like the Central Station to look busier.  And I really should look for some bikes to use!  As for Oppie's canals....... Laying the canals to start with took about 6 hours and since then I've added more.  The thought of replacing them all now makes me shake!!  And thanks for the link, I'll check the site out.

Mrtnrln:  And a warm welcome to you too.  Two first timers and two new Dutch visitors - that's great.  And thanks for the compliment!


UPDATE 38 - 24th May 2008:

I know I have been promising a tram update for some time now.  Apologies for the delay, I just got sidetracked into other things!

Well, the tram network is now complete.  It is called the "KINGLY TRAM SYSTEM" or KTS for short and has five different lines.  The network is very important to the city and is popular with workers, shoppers and tourists.  Here's a reminder of the network map:

38.01  Kingly Tram System Map:
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There 59 stations on the whole network.  To give you a tour of the whole network is more than one update, so today I will take you on a tour of the brown line, also known as the Oosterloop.


38.02  Brown Line - Oosterloop Map:
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This map is on the platforms of the brown line and also on board the brown line trams.  It shows the interchanges with the other lines and also the West End rail network (grey). 

The Oosterloop runs from the Ooster Park and heads south through the south eastern industrial area before reaching the southern residential area of Kingly.  It then heads up through the central part of the city to Central Station before heading east through the north eastern residential area and then the Oosterdok before returning to the Ooster Park.

The orange line runs along the same track from Oosterpark to Herrenbrug via the southern section.  The blue line shares the central part of the track.  And the green line shares the track from Central Station to Oosterpark via the northern section.

OK, lets take a tram leaving Oosterpark for the Central Station via the Southern route.  Numbers in brackets after the station name tells you how many sims are using each station.......

38.03  Oosterpark (48):
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This stop is used mainly by people visiting the park or out ship watching.  You even see a few people going to play at the football pitch here.  Trams on the Oosterloop turn around in the park and then start the loop again.


38.04  Mattschein Dok (145):
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Here the line splits.  Mattschein Dok has four platforms.  The bottom track heads south and the top track heads west and then north.  This station is used mainly by factory and dock workers.


Next along the line is the Oosterbahn.  This is the main station serving the eastern section of Kingly.  It has two KTS stations, one to the north and one to the south of the station.  Following an earlier comment from Bernhard, I realised I needed to amend the track layout here.  So I've included "before and after" pics to show you what I mean.

38.05  Oosterbahn South (6) - before:
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You can see that a speeding freight train crossing the tram line is an accident waiting to happen!


38.06  Oosterbahn South (6) - after:
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The transition from GLR to El-Rail is not perfect, but it does make more sense, I think.
You can also see how the two KTS stations serve the main rail station.


38.07  ISAT Chemie (134):
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This station is named after the nearby chemical factory.  This station is used almost entirely by workers of the nearby factories.


38.08  Power Plant (79):
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This station is used by workers of the Power Plant.  You can see that in evening rush hour plenty of trams serve this section of track.  The Orange line also uses this section.


38.09  Helvetia (196):
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Another of the stations serving the industrial zone.  This station is named after the nearby Helvetia plant.  And look at the length of that tram!


38.10  Vesterfeld Tram Depot:
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There are two tram depots on the KTS, and this one was the first to be built.  This is where the trams are stored when not in use and also where maintenance is carried out.


38.11  Breuerstraat (323):
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Breuerstraat is the name of the avenue in front of the station.  This is where the line starts to get really busy.  This station serves that large industrial park made up of the small BLS industrials.  Also, many sims transfer here on to buses that head north.


38.12  Weizenstraat (400):
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Here the line enters the residential part of the city.  This station also serves the water treatment plant. 


38.13  Luijkenbrug (417):
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The tram now crosses the first canal bridge.  This bridge (or brug) is called the Luijkenbrug, so the station takes its name from there.  This part of the city is starting to look a bit run down and many of the homes are looking a bit worse for wear.


38.14  Vanderpoll (327):
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Now this part of town is a much nicer place.  Only a few hundred metres from the Luijkenbrug, but that's how cities are sometimes I guess.  Many of the residents here work in the offices up in the central district around Damrak.  I like the way the tram appears through the trees.  The red line has also joined the network here.  Before Vanderpoll is the Luijkenplatz terminus which we'll visit on our tour of the red line.


38.15  Vijziel (332) and Baastenfeld (163):
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Vijziel is the station at the bottom of the picture named after the Vijziel Avenue that runs up towards the city centre.  Baastenfeld is the name of the football pitch, named after the great Marco Van Baasten.  Here the red line and brown line separate.  The red line turns left, the brown line carries on straight up.  Plenty of trams in this pic.


38.16  Rembrandt Square (590):
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This is a busy station for both tourists and residents.  Here two trams pass on one of the busiest sections of the network.  The blue line has now joined the brown line on this part of the network.


38.17  Prinzenbrug (707), Keizerbrug (1506) and Herrenbrug (765):
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We continue to head north now towards the centre.  The very bottom canal is the Prinzengracht.  Prinzenbrug is the name of bridge that crosses it here and the station takes its name from there.  The next canal up is Keizergracht amd then Herrengracht.  The stations are named in the same way.


38.18  Singel (785):
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We're heading from right to left here.  The orange line, leaves the brown line here and heads down the Leidsestraat whilst the brown line carries on heading north (left) together with the blue line.  The red line rejoins us here.


38.19  Dam Square (332):
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Here is the heart of the city, with two trams heading close behind each other into the sqaure.  This station is served by the brown, red and blue lines.


38.20  Damrak (304):
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This is where many of the commercial offices and services are located, right in the city centre.  It's also popular with tourists as the place to start a canal boat tour.


38.21  Central Station (84):
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I was surprised to see how few sims actually use this station.  Still, it is the hub of the network, with four lines serving the station's eight platforms (all the lines except the orange line).  The tram we are on, enters from the bottom and then turns right.


We'll cover the rest of the stations back out to the Ooster Park when we travel on the green line in a future update.

38.22  Brown Line - Oosterloop Map:
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Just to remind you of our journey today!


For those of you who are more skilled than me at using graphics programmes, I'd really like to have a logo for the Kingly Tram System (KTS).  So if somebody would like to design one for me to use here, then I'd be very grateful and owe you a favour!


I hope you enjoyed your ride......

'til next time.................... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on May 23, 2008, 04:28:53 PM
Paul great update and as is said watch this space for further comment or I will be back!!

cheers

pat
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nerdly_dood on May 23, 2008, 06:51:36 PM
I like it, keep it up!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on May 23, 2008, 08:35:33 PM
Absolutely stunning update you have here, Paul! :thumbsup: Mapping out the routes is quite an undertaking, but helpful to folks like me who have never seen a tram or even ridden on a train! (Told you I was "under-traveled!") And you even anticipated my question about usage - I'm getting too predictable!

But this doesn't mean I'm not curious about certain elements. In 38.09, you noted the length of the tram and I wonder if it appeared naturally. Also, do the Sims have to drive to a nearby station to catch a tram? If so, I'm wondering where they park their cars? Many, many years ago, I had to catch a commuter bus into downtown Houston where I worked, and there was a huge parking lot next to the terminal. That's the closest I can get to identifying with any kind of mass transit system, so I wonder if there's any comparison.

OK, I'm through being a pest now and will enjoy the rest of the tour. I really like 38.10 - I've never seen that BAT before, but the whole setup makes perfect sense. Then things start to get more interesting in the neighborhoods. The tram crossing the canal in 38.13 makes me glad you reserved a window seat for me! :) And 38.14 is just downright pretty. You are doing such a good job with those Dutch BATs, and the tram through the trees couldn't be more appropriate!

I didn't realize the stations were so close together
until I saw 38.17, but usage figures indicate they are well placed. And Dam Square, one of my all-time favorite locations, is getting a lot of passenger traffic as well. If I was going to board a tram, that's the station I'd want to use.

I know I keep repeating myself,
but this has to be one of your best updates! &apls

Until the next tram trip...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on May 24, 2008, 05:17:03 AM
Wonderful tram tour there, paroch! Fantastic new pictures of Kingly!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on May 24, 2008, 05:49:50 AM
Great update Paul, looks like you have a well used tram line.  I love the BAT of the Central station.  Great creation.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on May 24, 2008, 06:54:42 AM
Excellent update, Paul!   &apls  I don't think I've ever used the GLR in any of my cities, but I'm suddenly inspired to tinker around with it (although not in Covington... that just wouldn't fit the theme).  The map is very useful and I found myself constantly scrolling back and forth to keep up.  Some standouts for me personally...

38.06 - The separated grades certainly make a lot more sense and honestly looks better to me as well.  I wonder if having the tram tunnel beneath the heavy rail lines would look even "cleaner" though?  I don't really know and maybe that wouldn't even be realistic from a cost standpoint anyway... just thinking out loud really.

38.13 - I really like the transition to higher density here.  You've done a great job of making it appear somewhat random and natural.  I often have trouble avoiding the sudden, "straight line" effect when I switch in and out of single family houses to apartments.

38.15 & 16 - Nothing specific to say here... they're just both really nice pictures that I like!  ;)

38.18 - I love how the bill boards and advertisements on the buildings face the tram line.  It just fits together so perfectly.  This picture is also a great example of how well you have used the pedestrian walkways all over the network.  The pieces blend in very well and may be hard to notice in places, but you obviously put a lot of thought into fitting this whole system together.  That attention to detail really shows here.

38.20 - Just another great picture that I like for no particular reason!  :thumbsup:

Looking forward to the next ride...

JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: vester on May 24, 2008, 02:35:57 PM
It's good to see one of my trams in a MD


and my tram depot... think it's a first time, I see it in use in a MD.

Maybe I should do I a new tram stop, so you don't need to use the same one all over.


(Going to re-release my tram stop soon. Would love to see it in your MD ! )
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Fledder200 on May 24, 2008, 02:55:52 PM
love the pic's!!
i see you are a GLR lover as wel!!

i realy like those tramline maps!
keep it up   &apls  &apls  &apls



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on May 25, 2008, 04:31:29 AM
Wow what a ride!  You show all those great places here, I don't even know where to start commenting.

So you made the map with MS paint.... I have that on my PC and cannot get it to do what I want at all. For each click that I make a part of the original picture disappears. I just now how to transform a PNG- into a JPG picture with it. ()testing()

It's great to ride with you through Kingly's industrial areas. You made it very green and a pleasant place to work! It was a great solution to build the Oosterbahn South Tram viaduct. I think it would have been more realistic to have a tram tunnel there, but don't even know if GLR tunnels exist in the game?
The length of the tram in 38.09 made me laugh out load. I hope this monster is never going to enter into the central area as it will cause major traffic trams probably. But in you pic at that place it looks great!

The bats in 38.11 (Breuerstraat) make me wonder what it is. Is it a kind of allotments? They look nice and green, but there a no path to connect them with the street. Just currious what it is...

38.14(Vanderpoll/Luykenplatz) is showing a very nice transition from wealthy residential to the more central part of town. I like that you picked those two names: I boarded the tram for years at Vanderpollstraat station myself to my office in Jan Luykenstraat. Funny that in Kingly those two are only one station apart from each other.. ;)

38.15 I wonder how it's possible that Baastenfield sustained in the heart of town? Groundprices must be skyhigh there at Vijzel Avenue. How long will it take before a real-estate project developper will catch this goldmine next to two major tramlines?  &idea

38.17 Prinzenbrug (707), Keizerbrug (1506) and Herrenbrug (765) is one of the best pictures I have ever seen. And sooo realistic, with a tramstop between each "island"!. The clocktower just at the right edge of the picture is making this a true gem. (HoF material if you ask me  ;)

This truely is a great update Paul. Thanks for showing us all this - I am waiting for next ride (I hope it will be before Friday - I will be gone for 14days from that day)

QuoteAnd you're not the only one to mention the football competition - maybe it's time for another?
.  If it will be as much fun as the last one... I will certainly fly a team and many Dutch Americans to West-End to join the fun!

Cheers.





Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on May 25, 2008, 02:14:08 PM
Great update Paul :thumbsup:
I like the fact that you include the usage figures for each station, as it really gives a good feeling for how much its utilized &apls

I remember (vaguely  /&HiPP/%) my trips on the trams in Amsterdam (many years ago ::)) fondly but must also admit to disliking them too
(being a cyclist - we don't like train/tram tracks  and road surfaces being mixed together $%Grinno$% ) so it was nice to sit back
and let you do the traming for me. I enjoyed the tour also thank you very much.

38.15  is one of my fav pics with the pitch in the park. (though the floodlights look somewhat out of place there IMO) :thumbsup:

I enjoyed this update a lot and look forward to your next

regards
Derry
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on May 25, 2008, 03:11:45 PM
REPLIES:

Pat:  I always look out for your visits, so come on down any time my friend.

Nerdly_Dood:  Welcome to West End - I'm glad you like it, feel free to drop in any time.

Joan:  Thanks for your detailed comments.  I think the maps add an element of authenticity to the updates (well at least I hope they do).  To give you an idea of the London tube map, have a look at this  link  (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/travel/downloads/tube_map.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/travel/downloads/tube_map.html&h=1014&w=1666&sz=369&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=8jm_181tP1y-3M:&altq=underground+map,london+underground+map&tbnh=91&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlondon%2Btube%2Bmap%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG).
As for the length of the tram - yes, sometimes you seem to get extra long ones and other times you may have two 4 coach trams that stop to queue up which gives the impression of one long one.  And yes, my commute querey shows that some people walk or drive to the tram station.  It's true that at many tram stations I have not provided parking, but this does not appear to be a problem.  I'll try to include a route querey in an update soon.  Behind Central Station I have created a huge parking area but the station is not used as much as I'd hoped!  I walk to the station in RL each working day (about 12 mins) and there are two large car parks at the station that charge about £3 ($5.50) per day and are almost full.

And you're not being a pest!  It's good to have such comments.  Yes, the tram depot is by Vester (hence the name) and it is a beauty.  The trams over the bridge is a nice shot - glad you liked it.  The gaps between the stations vary quite a bit.  On that section there are plenty of houses and a smattering of commercial, plus the stations next to the bridges just seemed to fit - so it was more luck than judgement that they are used so much.  Thanks for your comment Joan and there are a few tram journeys yet!

Bat:  Thank you for your comment.

Shaun:  Hey, glad you liked it.  The trams just finish the city off for me.

Jon:  We seem to appreciate each other's MDs which is nice.  And yes, give the GLR a go some time.  It can be a bit fiddly and can be temperamental but I'm happy to give you a quick hints and tips on how to avoid CTDs etc.  As for your specific comments....38.06  Hmmm, a GLR tunnel would be nice - not sure if there is one out there.  38.13 I wish it would always work so smoothly!  38.18 Again, that was an accident, I hadn't really noticed til you pointed it out!  Thanks for taking the time to leave such a comment.

Arne
:  Hey it's good to see you here in West End.  Without your trams this city would not look as it does so a MASSIVE thank you for creating them.  Thanks also for pointing me in the direction of the tram depot and also for the Swan Mill Station.  I just have to see if I can fit the station into a fully developed city!  And please feel free to develop new tram stops!  I'd love one with a central platform that works with Left Hand Drive (yes, my trams drive on the left!)

Fledder200:  Hey, another first timer in West End.  One of the first MDs that I really admired was Liaane - I am sure that was you.  I still recall the trams going through the city squares.  I hope that Kingly is just a small way towards achieving what Liaane did.  Hope to see you here again.

Sebes
:  Maybe I should do a tutorial on how to create a transit map - would anyone else be interested?  And of course, I am pleased you liked the tour.  And yes, I agree, a tunnel would have been better, but I cannot find a GLR tunnel - maybe one is out there.  And the Breuerstraat Bats are infact the BLS Small Industrials.  I am sure I downloaded them from LEX and I think they are lotted by Barby??  They do have an allotment look about them when they grow in such large quantities, but believe me they are just small industrial units.  And I chose the name Vanderpoll only because when I worked for a Dutch company the big boss was called Van Der Poll - and I just remembered his name!  And yes, a great development opportunity on Baastenfeld - in fact you can see where the Kingly Flash team have moved to in this update.

Thanks for such a great set of comments Sebes.

Derry:  Well, I am glad you can look at and like this update without worrying about your bike being bumped by a tram.  It is odd that Amsterdam has loads of bikes and loads of trams.  Maybe Sebes can tell us whether there are many accidents.  Glad you like the Baastenfeld pitch.  Funnily enough it's one of my own custom lots and I usually use it as a school football field, so I can see what you mean about the floodlights.


UPDATE 39 - 25th May 2008:


In this update we will continue with the tram rides of the city.  Today we are going to ride on the Orange Line, also known as the South City Route. 

Here is the transit map for the Orange Line:

39.01  Transit Map - Orange Line:
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This line runs from Ooster Park in the east of the city and follows the same route as the Brown Line up until Herrnebrug.  We travelled this route last time, so we won't go over old ground again.

The line then turns left and heads west along the Leidsestraat.  The red line also runs along this street, so we'll save that part of the update until then.  At Leidseplein the line turns right towards Bondplein and this is where we'll pick it up today.

As like the last update, passenger numbers at each station are in brackets after the station name.

39.02  Bondplein (1112):
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This small square is home to many offices in the media industry.  At lunch time the sqaure is full of office workers eating sandwiches and smoking cigarettes.


39.03  Kieferendorf (635):
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Just around the corner from Bondplein is this high wealth residential area.  The tennis court set up is a custom lot from my fellow NUT tooheys and I like it loads.


39.04  Mattbijstraat (661):
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A mix of commercial and residential buildings are here.  The dual carriageway road is called Mattbijstraat and is home to quite a few of MattB's bats.  The houses overlooking the narrow canal are some of the oldest in Kingly.  Both the Orange and Green lines share the track from here all the way to the end of the line at Suderwald.


39.05  Joerg Autos (240):
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This station serves the factory of the same name.  The factory has only recently started production of its new model, the XP5.


39.06  Haarlemerstraat (182):
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Usage on this section of the line starts to ease off.  Haarelmerstraat serves both the more modern residential zone plus the industrial zone.


39.07  Westerbahn (156):
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Westerbahn is the station that serves the western side of the city.  And here, the railway and tram system have an interchange.  And it is also home to the University of Kingly.  Many students jump on the tram here to head into the Leidseplein area where there are plenty of bars.


39.08  Cuerbendorf (89):
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These detached houses from Haarlemergold have become the standard build in the outer edges of the city.  They are very versatile as family homes and are known amongst the Kinglish as Staple Homes.


39.09  Nederplein (35):
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This station has mainly high wealth homes around it, which probably explains why so few people use this station.  The Kingly Tram System have started terminating many of the trams at Westerbahn and turning them back towards the city centre as so few people use the last four stations.


39.10  Egbeerstraat (24):
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This station serves the small industrial estate on the south western edge of the city.


39.11  Suderwald Tram Depot and Suderwald Station (21):
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This is the second of the city's tram depots and is next to the station that is at the end of the line.

And here is a tram near Suderwald (work with me on this one).

39.12  Tram in action
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So that's our trip on the Orange Line complete. 


One thing I've not shown you yet in Kingly is the stadium of the local team, Kingly Flash.  So here it is.....

39.13  Kingly Flash - Nieuw Baastenfeld:
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The stadium is named after a great Dutch footballer and also has an athletics track.  You may also recall that Baatenfeld is also the name of a station on the Kingly Tram System - well years ago the team played there but there was not enough room to build a stadium, so they moved here.


39.14  Stadium Environment:
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You can see that plenty of parking space is available for the stadium.  The stadium is also very close to the Westerbahn, which is served both by the national rail network and the Kingly Tram System (Orange and Green Lines).  That pedestrian bridge carries a lot of sims on match days.


39.15  Zoom Out:
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And this gives you an idea of how the stadium fits into the bigger picture.  There are rumours that this stadium will be used soon as part of an international competition - I guess you'll have to watch this space to see if the rumours are true.

'til next time............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on May 25, 2008, 03:40:25 PM
Paul great update here!!! I will see you again soon - pat
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on May 26, 2008, 11:58:21 AM
Thanks for this great update Paul. I like the way you present the Orange line tram tracks in a diagonal way. Very clever, and unique  :thumbsup:

The Nieuw Baastenfeld Stadium is at a perfect location with excellent transport connections and layout. And never a dull moment with all the terraces in front of the Westerbahnstation! (Cheers mate). Now that you mentioned the rumours, I believe I heard some vague Nieuw Nederlands reports about it as well...  :-\

But before that happens, you'll have to tell me:
- where did you find that great stadium?
- what is the station that you use in front of it?

And regarding your tram/bike question... yes. Accidents happen frequently. It happened to myself twice when I steered my bike around a corner but my bikewheel just followed the track and I almost was down at the street. Luckily for me I never ended up at streetlevel though :). But, not everybody is that fortunate...  as you can see here (link) (http://tip.at5.nl/2008/03/20/ernstig-ongeluk-op-de-overtoom/)


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on May 26, 2008, 12:51:28 PM
Another tram tour already - what a treat, Paul! :thumbsup: Bondplein certainly is getting a fair amount of tram traffic. And I just now noticed the little structures beside the stations - I'd guess they're shelters for passengers in waiting and/or lunchtime picnic destinations.

The scenery along the tram routes is consistently attractive - the parks in 39.09 are beautiful and the lots beside the station itself are nicely decorated with flowering bushes. You must have a good landscape architect! ::) I am surprised that Egbeerstraat gets so little traffic - surely there are more than 24 Sims working in that industrial park, but I don't see much road traffic either. The truck entering the roundabout is a nice touch, BTW.

The stadium/station complex in 39.14 is, well, complex to say the least! There's a bit more parking space than I'd have expected. You and I have discussed the differences between American and British parking accommodations many times. You didn't mention the station's usage, but I would imagine it is pretty high. Also I'm interested in the umbrellas which add a colorful touch, BTW. Perhaps sports fans bring their lunch and make a day of it enjoying the sights and sounds here. Placing the entire complex near the major university is a very wise use of resources to say the least, and the pedestrian bridge is essential but would be easy to overlook.

As always, a terrific update befitting a classic MD...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on May 26, 2008, 01:20:04 PM
Another great trip on the trams Paul  &apls &apls

I particularly like the area around the stadium. Great skill in pulling it all off  :thumbsup:
Nice touch on the ped bridge too and the overall view of that area including the uni is fab
I really enjoyed this update paul ;D ;D

and there is still more to see - oh good I'm looking forward to it :thumbsup:
till next time

regards
Derry
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: vester on May 26, 2008, 01:34:13 PM
Great to see my tram depot in use  :thumbsup:

and what a great place to have it show up in. 8)

Quote from: paroch on May 25, 2008, 03:11:45 PM
Hey it's good to see you here in West End.  Without your trams this city would not look as it does so a MASSIVE thank you for creating them.  Thanks also for pointing me in the direction of the tram depot and also for the Swan Mill Station.  I just have to see if I can fit the station into a fully developed city!  And please feel free to develop new tram stops!  I'd love one with a central platform that works with Left Hand Drive (yes, my trams drive on the left!)

Well, I might just do that in between my major project (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=4260.msg150699#msg150699).
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on May 26, 2008, 01:39:58 PM
WOW! Brilliant job on the tram update, Paul!

I felt like I was riding along! The map, the stations, everything looks fantastic!

Keep up the great work here, my friend!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on May 27, 2008, 08:27:49 AM
Welcome to page 28!

Great new pictures of this new tour! Great work on the orange line!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: panthersimcity4 on May 27, 2008, 10:16:40 PM
Beautiful job! Your city is very aesthetically pleasing.  ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warszawa on May 28, 2008, 02:27:44 AM
Awesomeness! The Orange Line is what panthersimcity4 said - "Very aesthetically pleasing", the BATs and canals are very well planned, I hope you continue to amaze us members and your lurkers with further updates.

:thumbsup: &apls

Just 1 question - Could you be able to give me a link for those tram lines? if possible please.

Alex
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: rooker1 on May 28, 2008, 09:00:26 AM
Super job on the last update.  I love the stadium and the surrounding area.  Very, very well laid out.
I'm sure you will continue to amaze us with your brilliant updates.
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: FrankU on May 28, 2008, 10:02:35 AM
So I see you did use Oppies canals at the Damrak.

Your pictures are stunning. Must be an awful lot of work. If you think you read some jealousy here, you're completely right. I have too little time to play the game....
Title: Re: WEST END - SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
Post by: paroch on May 28, 2008, 02:44:16 PM
SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT:

We now go over to Kingly's Nieuw Baastenfeld Stadium for a special announcement.......
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Austria and Switzerland are hosting the Euro 08 football tournament from 7th June to 29th June.  This tournament will see 16 nations compete for the honour of being crowned European Champions on 29th June in Vienna, Austria.  To coincide with this, West End and Balnavia will be co-hosting "Devo 08" from 7th June to 29th June.  This is a football tournament for MDs that reside here at SC4D, where each MD can enter their "national" team for the chance to win "Devo 08".  Each MD will be represented by a real life nation competing at Euro 08.

To enter, you must have your own MD here at SC4D.  If you qualify then please enter by sending a PM to paroch and tooheys stating the name of your MD, and clearly stating your first, second and third choices of countries you want to represent your MD.  Paroch and tooheys have already sent PMs to each other with their three preferences to avoid any chance of seeing what other people ask for first (but seeing as neither England or Australia are in Euro 08 we do not have the chance of selecting our own countries).

We will try to give everyone their first choice, but clearly there is likely to be more than one person requesting certain teams, so teams will be allocated to entrants on the following basis:

1- We will allocate all first choices before moving on to second choices.  We will then allocate all second choices before moving on to third choices.

2- We will allocate teams to entrants from their own country first.  So, if for example, two people request "Germany" as their first choice, one from United Kingdom and one from Germany, we will allocate Germany to the person from Germany.  It seems that this will give you most interest in the competition.

3- If point 2 does not give a clear answer then we will allocate teams based on the number of replies your MD has received here at SC4D according to the most recently posted stats in the SC4D MD Statistics thread.  So, if for example, one American MD and one Australian MD request France as their first choice (and nobody from France has), then point 2 will not separate them, so it will be allocated according to the number of replies in their respective MDs.  Whoever's MD has had the most replies gets their choice.

4- If it ends up that there are entrants who did not get any of their preferred choices, we will ask Jmouse to draw the names from a hat.

5- There are only 16 places available.  West End and Balnavia enter as hosts, so that leaves 14 places left.  These 14 places are available on a first come, first served basis.  Once we have received 14 entry requests the competition is full.  We will keep you updated in West End and Balnavia on how many entrants we have.  If we do not get enough entries then we will open it up to those without MDs as well.

Balnavia will be hosting the Devo 08 matches taking place in the real life Switzerland and West End will be hosting the Devo 08 matches taking place in the real life Austria.  This does not mean that Balnavia will be Switzerland or West End will be Austria as there may be a Swiss or Austrian MD that would prefer to have their own country represent them.

The countries taking part are:
Czech Republic       Austria               France               Greece
Portugal                  Croatia               Holland             Russia
Switzerland            Germany            Italy                   Spain
Turkey                    Poland               Romania            Sweden

Tooheys is experiencing connection problems at the moment, so please make sure you send your PM to me.  Balnavia hopes to be up and running by the weekend when it will join the fun.  The first match kicks off on 7th June, so we need your entries as quickly as possible.  All who entered the West End tournament seemed to enjoy it, so come on in and join the fun.

If you're interested in the RL tournament, here is    UEFA's official site (http://en.euro2008.uefa.com/index.html).


Normal West End updates (with personal replies) will resume shortly!


'til next time................ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on May 28, 2008, 03:02:39 PM
I'm in :thumbsup:

pm sent :thumbsup:

:satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on May 28, 2008, 03:25:51 PM

&hlp &hlp &hlp

Nieuw Nederland wants to be in there too!

&bis& &bis& &bis&

And we'll be going for the cup of course!

(little PM send to Paul)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on May 28, 2008, 05:13:35 PM
Shosaloza is ready (girls too!  ()stsfd()), I will send PM at once!

I had much work last few days, I barely finished my update and now I'm very tired. But I'm going to return to West End tomorrow and look carefully what happened here lately!  :thumbsup:

Adam
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on May 29, 2008, 06:11:20 AM
I'm in if there aren't 16.  Given I'm a kiwi and football is still called soccer there I'm not too stressed.  :P

But will be following with interest either way.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on May 29, 2008, 07:47:16 AM
Nice idea with the DEVO 08!

I also sent you (paroch) a PM!

I hope, there is still enough place!

And looking forward to more updates of WEST END... ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Patricius Maximus on May 29, 2008, 02:36:21 PM
Euro '08; interesting   %wrd

EDIT: Certainly, this is not the kind of attitude we condone around here. If you have nothing substantive to contribute, please do not contribute at all. - Dustin (thundercrack83)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: freedo50 on May 29, 2008, 03:13:12 PM
That doesn't really strike me as a particularly nice, or necessary, comment to make Patricius, if you aren't interested in Paul's (Paroch) idea, just leave the thread and go to another that does interest you. There was no need however, to post a comment which is, frankly, offensive. To use the age-old proverb, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

Fred
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on May 29, 2008, 05:16:31 PM
Hey Paul this is a grand Idea!!! I will be following with intrest...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nardo69 on May 30, 2008, 03:24:28 PM
PM sent, I am in ;)

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on May 31, 2008, 12:26:12 AM
REPLIES:

Pat
:  Thanks Pat and hope to see you soon too - And I'm glad you like the idea of Dev 08.

Sebes:  Ah, well I made the line diagonal to be able to fit all the names in easily!  Thanks for the compliment re the stadium.  STEX is down so I cannot give you a link, but I think it is the Osaka Expo 70 stadium.  And the station is Surbiton Station by Ill Tonkso.  I know you are on a beach noe for two weeks.  I will try and have the link ready for you when you return.
And West End (or Balnavia) will be waiting for the Nieuw Nederland Orange Army!
Oh, and thanks for the link to the pic - looked painful though  :(

Joan:  And there are still a couple of trips to come!  The little structures.  Well, there are two that use the same/similar design.  The 3 tile long ones are the actual stations and the 1x1 tile is actually a bus stop.  I placed bus stops near to the tram stations to help boost their use.  And thanks for the compliment re scenery and parks.
And yes, there are more than 24 workers there, so I was surprised at the lack of use as well.
As for the stadium......as it was built on the edge of town with plenty of space around it, I thought I should use that space and parking seemed to make sense.  The stadia in the UK that are on inner city sites and have been there for 50 years plus, tend to be crammed in, with development right up to them, whereas increasingly football clubs are now building new shiny larger stadia on the edge of town with more space to breathe and with plenty of facilities, such as parking, food outlets and retail parks.  And the umbrellas - I think (and I will have to check) are by PEG.

Derry
:  Hey thanks, and glad you liked the stadium complex too.  And thanks for your Devo 08 entry.

Arne
:  Well, I have to thank you for creating that great depot.  I have a feeling it will show up in more of my cities!  And Roskilde Cathederal is looking BEUATIFUL.  I will make sure I leave some suitable comments to make sure you know just how good it's looking.  I can imagine how long that must be taking, so I forgive you if you do not visit West End so often.

Dustin
:  Well if you felt like you were riding along then I achieved my goal.  ()stsfd()

Bat:  thanks for that, and thanks for your entry to the Devo 08 tournament.

Panthersim
:  Thanks for your kind words.  :)

Alex
:  Thanks, and just a couple more updates from Kingly before I move on to a new (as yet undecided) quad.  And the tram tracks are part of NAM.  I don't have the new version installed yet (will do on the next quad).  You'll find it here on LEX.  If you don't already have it - YOU NEED IT!!!!! LOL, if you do have it, the GLR/Tram tracks show up near the very top of the "misc" transport menu.

Robin
:  Thanks, I'm glad you liked the stadium.  And thank also for the compliment re updates   :thumbsup:

FrankU:  Yes the Oppies canals do work well there.  And yes, this city has taken tooooooo much of my time.  But I have enjoyed it.  I hope you manage to find some more hours in the day to play.....and if you do, please tell me where you found them  ;)

Adam:  I am hoping that Shosazola gets drawn in the West End groups and not Balnavia, as it will be good to see your girls over here in West End again  :satisfied:

Shaun:  You're in my friend, even if you insist on calling it soccer!  Let's just hope your team don't actually pick the ball up!

Patricius Maximus:  Feel free to comment on the MD any time - something a bit more constructive next time would be appreciated.

Fred:  Well said!

Bernhard
:  Great stuff, welcome on board.



UPDATE 40 - 31st May 2008

I hope that you're not getting bored with the tram tours of Kingly.  It just seems a good way to wrap up this city, and believe me we are coming towards the end!  I started work on Kingly at the start of March, so this quad has taken up the last three months of my life.  I have become kind of obsessed by it.  I find myself sitting on the train, laying in bed, or even at my desk in the office just thinking about Kingly.  How, I can improve something, or how to make sure a certain area look right, or even what road layout to use in a given part of town.  And even worse, since I started playing with Movie Maker, I find myself planning how the next vid-clip will fit together with a certain piece of music!

So, as much as I have enjoyed Kingly, and as much as I love it, I can see that this city is nearly done and it is time for me to move on.  There are three tram routes still to look at, so the countdown to say goodbye to Kingly has started!

Today we are going to travel the Green Line, or North City Route.  Here is the transit map for the whole network (just to remind you) and also the Green line:

40.01  Kingly Tram System:
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40.02  Green Line - Transit Map:
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We are going to travel from Suderwald and head up towards the Central Station and then out to Ooster Park.  We've already seen the stations up to Mattbijstraat when we travelled on the Orange Line, so we'll pick it up at Portland Square.....As with previous update, station usage figures are in brackets after the station name.


40.03  Portland Square (60):
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This picture is taken from the north, looking south.
Our tram is heading from right to left in this shot (waited ages for a tram to pass and then missed it!)
The main avenue at the bottom of the picture is Mattbijstraat which heads east to west into the city centre.  There are quite a few commercials along this road as there tends to be a lot of traffic on it.


40.04  Hauppen Boulevard (7):
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This picture is taken looking north.  Mattbijstraat is the left to right avenue and Hauppen Boulevard itself is the avenue that heads south.  As you can see, the area is improving a bit, with a new commercial office being constructed.


40.06  View from the Tram:
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40.05  Maarkenstraat (136):
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Here the KTS runs parallel with the railway.  And there's a nice piece of not very subliminal advertising!


40.07  Rhenenplein (141):
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This small square is named after the capital of Nieuw Nederland.  There were two groups of Dutch emigrants in the 18th century, many travelled to Nieuw Nederland to seek a new life, but as that is so far from Holland, the ones who got sea sick, or who were afraid to travel so far, emigrated to Kingly in West End as it is much closer to their ancestral home.
Many of the families here have families in Rhenen, so the square was named in their honour.  I tried to get the Nieuw Nederland flag on the plaza, but could not make it appear.


40.09  Zonderjaan (29) and Kortengracht (93):
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Our tram is travelling from left to right in this picture.  Zonderjaan is the station on the left and Kortengracht on the right.  You may remember this part of the city from the canal tour.  Those buildings behind the tram route are the western edge of the central commercial zone.


40.08  Waiting for the tram after a long day:
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Our next stop is the Central Station, which we have seen many times before, so we'll carry on......

40.10  Prins Hendrikkade (125):
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Here you can see both train and tram together.  This station serves both commercials and the Inner Oosterdok.


40.11  Boekerstraat (183):
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It's a shame you lost the roof of the tram when it's actually in the station - but hey, a minor problem.


40.12  Tram in Action:
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40.13  Montells Tower (100):
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Popular with both tourists and residents.  I guess you may have seen this building before in Kingly!


40.14  Niederzijs (100):
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Tightly packed in residentials here.  And the underpass is the "gateway" to the Outer Oosterdok.


40.15  Kreijek Boulevard (105):
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We're heading from right to left in this picture.  The branch heading upwards is the Red line towards Nieuwplein.  Not much else to say about this pic other than to admire the detail on Haarlemergold's corner building there.


40.16  Schemmelstraat (402):
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Usage numbers jump up here, mainly because of the proximity to the factories.  In hindsight, I wish I'd have managed the transition from residential to industrial a bit better!


40.17  Marktpein  (142):
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Whilst the flower market in the centre of town is popular with tourists, this is where the residents do their real shopping.  It's only a small market, but has a great range of fresh produce, both from West End, Holland and further afield.  And after heading under the bridge the tram is back in the industrial zone.


40.18  Schippijdok  (94):
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This station serves the docks and Gratoit Motors.  The name Schippijdok comes form my very poor attempts to combine English with what little Dutch I know.  There are ships (Schippij) and it's a dock (dok), so Schippijdok!  Apologies to the Dutch readers for murdering your language!


40.19  Hofsplatz (72), Kleider (37), Oosterbahn N (22), Mattschein Dok (145):
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Our tram enters from the top left.  Hofsplatz and Kleider serve the local factories in the area.  It's then on to Oosterbahn where you can change and get a train.  We then head up to Mattschein Dok, where the line joins with the Orange line and southern section of the Brown line. 
I really like the Glenni Water Treatment Plant in this pic - I think it looks just right there.

After Mattschein Dok the tram heads to Ooster Park, where it terminates.  So, I hope you enjoyed this ride.  Only two liens left now, Red and Blue.

40.20   Inside the trams:
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I've put together a few pics to give you an idea of what it's like inside the trams and at the stops.  And in case you're wondering....the woman in the booth sells tickets.

A BIG thank you to Sebes for providing some of the RL photos.

Two updates back, Joan asked about how sims got to and used the trams, so here is a "transport querey" just to show you.....

40.21  Transport Querey:
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Hopefully gives you some idea of how it works.


And as for DEVO 08.... Joan has designed the official logo for the tournament:

40.22 DEVO 08 logo:
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So you're going to be seeing more of this over the next month.  BIG thank you to Joan for her creative genius!

We currently have 10 teams in the tournament, so there are six spaces left.  If you've not entered, please come on in and join the fun.

Oh, and my last post in OSITM.  I've enjoyed it loads, and hopefully made the most of it.  My advice to next month's OSITMs....... put a bit of extra time into your MD, and give a couple more updates than usual, it is your time in the spotlight, so make the most of it $%Grinno$%


'til next time........................... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on May 31, 2008, 12:52:41 AM
What a wonderful way to close out your time in OSITM  &apls &apls

I really enjoyed my time riding on the trams this month, and it certainly a unique way to display
your fantastic recreation of Amsterdam.


QuoteI started work on Kingly at the start of March, so this quad has taken up the last three months of my life.  I have become kind of obsessed by it.  I find myself sitting on the train, laying in bed, or even at my desk in the office just thinking about Kingly.  How, I can improve something, or how to make sure a certain area look right, or even what road layout to use in a given part of town.
I can understand how the last few months have been as I have spent over 4 months on one of my tiles and it is nowhere near finished
but the care and attention have shown through in the superb pics and vids you have produced recently.

I do hope you enjoyed your time in OSITM Paul because I certainly did :thumbsup:

regards
Derry
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nardo69 on May 31, 2008, 03:18:15 AM
Nice idea for an update and presented in a mote than adequate way.

You said you spent three months on that square, well, sounds familiar to me. Beneath RL if you want to make it REALLY good you need that time, and me I sometimes have to leave such a square unfinished for quite some times until I get the right idea to finish some crucial points of interest on the map. Sometimes I am quite fast when I am riding a big wave of creativity but most of the time pusging pebbles is a time consuming hard piece of work but the outcome pays it all off ;)

I like especially the Markpein (142) and the last overview with the industrials and all the traffic ways coming together.

But there are two points I don't like to much:

- that intersection at Rhenenplein (141) behind the NAM overpass.  %confuso
I am not sure if its possible but a road roundabout would look better here ... it may work with the T-onslope piece but I have to confess I haven't tried it out. Another option would be cancelling that grey street and instead just go round the corner with the road and connecting the busstop with the tramway station with pedestrian malls.

- the railway overpass before Marktpein (I guess you could foresee this ... ;) )
I would try an Tramway overpass here combined with the extender piece of the PEG kanals ...

Other than that a great update that mirrors the effort and the time you spent in that square!  :satisfied:  &apls

Take care (and don't forget to make backups!)

Bernhard  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on May 31, 2008, 05:48:58 AM
Fantastic looking pictures there of the green line's area there!
Wonderful work on it!!! And great end of your OSITM-month!!!

Looking forward to more in June '08!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on May 31, 2008, 09:13:28 AM
Great update! I also like the idea of DEVO '08. I can't wait for that!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: jeronij on May 31, 2008, 10:40:34 AM
I just signed for the Devo08 event... it will be interesting  ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on May 31, 2008, 11:55:11 AM
When I saw this latest update, my first thought was, "Omigosh, where do I start?" So typically, I backtracked to the beginning of your month in OSITM. Your first offering was a well-done video seen here (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2238.msg144673#msg144673) and a precursor of wonderful things to come.

Then throughout the month, you have showed us the heart and soul of Kingly - her intricate transport system of canals and trams amongst the bustle of a city you brought to life. And it does, indeed, have a personality of its own.

As for the update at hand, I don't know that there's any one photo I like better than another - all are very good - but 40.11 speaks to me simply because it is so typical of Kingly. And I love the flower market - 40.17 Marktpein - which I noticed is now available on the LEX. 40.18 Schippijdok is especially well executed - in it you managed to make a difficult transition look easy.

Kingly is now so much a part of West End that it's amazing to think it was once nothing but a vision superimposed on a grass-covered chunk of Sim Nation! Thank you for letting us share the creation process with you!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on May 31, 2008, 01:44:36 PM
REPLIES:

Derry - Thanks for those words Derry, it's comments like that, that make doing an MD so worth while.

Bernhard
- Hey thanks for the comments.  And yes, I can see what you mean about Rhenenplein.  I am sure I can re-work this to make it better.  As for the railbridge at the Marktplein junction.  You know, I changed this following an earlier comment you made.  Originally the GLR went across thr rail line.  I wanted to used raised GLR but there was just not the room to have a smooth on-ramp for the GLR.  I tried many ways to make it fit without totally destroying the whole area and this was kind of the best I could do.  I know it's not perfect and I do appreciate your comments.  Next time, I'll leave myself more space!

Bat - Thanks as always for your visit.

mrtnrln - Thanks and please feel free to enter your MD into the tournament.

Jeronij - I'm glad that we have Mallorca on board.  This is your first post in West End, maybe I will be able to tempt you back soon ;)

Joan - Thanks for those warm words.  You've been West End's keenest supporter since the start, so it's always good to have such in-depth feedback.


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There are only 2 places left in Devo 08, so if you want to take part, send me a PM pretty quickly!

'til next time.......... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nardo69 on May 31, 2008, 01:54:05 PM
I see what you mean and yes, I remember.

But as this is a tramway than can climb slopes up to 7% like a road you have my permission (I am really nice, tonight, aint I?` :D ) to sue the rather steep NAM Ramp pieces! ;)

I would definitely NOT use the elTrain to Subway Lot because of the kanal.

On the other hand we all (including me) are developing so I can accept this as an exception ;).

To all other readers: THIS IS NOT A PRECEDENCE!!!  "$Deal"$
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on May 31, 2008, 05:13:15 PM
It was really a great tour around Kingly during all this month!
It seems I like trams more and more... :D
The transit network you've created is really impressive. Canals look great, and they cause an additional interesting effect, they optically condense buildings and give a feeling that every square meter of space is used. It is visible on 40.09 near the bottom, and these two narrow tenements near the tram stop on 40.13 look great!

I'm very impressed, Paul, both the city and the presentation (fantastic Tram System scheme!) are fantastic!

Adam
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on June 04, 2008, 12:18:19 PM
REPLIES

Bernhard:  Hehehe, great comment.  It's funny, because I know the solution is not perfect.  But I guess these things happen in RL.  The tram way was built maybe when the rail line was not busy, so it just crossed the track.  Then the market place became an important part of the community and could not be changed.  Then the railway became faster, and busier, so a solution had to be found.  They could not tunnel because of the low water table and the canals and no room for a bridge for the GLR, so the "third option" was adopted.  Anyways, I really appreciate your comments here and agree that this is not a precedent for future poor planning    "$Deal"$

Adam
:  A compliment from you always means a lot, so thank you.  And yes, the central area of Kingly does have a certain, almost claustrophobic feel about it.


UPDATE 41 - 4th June 2008

Today's tram tour is going to take us on the Red Line - or Central Route.  Half of the stations on the route have already been visited whilst on the other lines, so we'll just flooks the the 12 stations we've not stopped at before.  Let's look at the route first:

41.01  Red Line - Transit Map:
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We're going to travel from Nieuwplein all the way down to Luijkenplatz.  To give you an idea how busy each station is, the number of sims using each station is in brackets.

Have you still got your ticket?  Then, let's jump on board at Nieuwplein.

41.02  Nieuwplein (238):
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There is a nice walk through the plaza to the New Market and Church.  This is the only plaza in Kingly not made from the light grey stone.  It was a new idea that many hoped would catch on, hence the name, Nieuwplein.  But, the city elders decided to stick with the trusted light grey stone.

For the next part of the journey from Kreijek Boulevard to Central Station, we have already seen this when on the Green line.  And from Central Station to Singel, we saw on the Brown line, so we will pick up the journey at the start of the Leidsestraat.  This street is the busiest part of the whole network:

41.03  Oosterleidse (1598):
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The Leidestraat is primarily a busy shopping street.  It is always packed with tourists and locals.  But the canals are still an oasis of calm in this busy part of the city.


41.04  Trams and Canals:
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41.05  Flower Market (1730):
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This is the busiest tram station on the whole of the KTS.  It serves the nearby Flower Market and is also surrounded by many exclusive shops.


41.06  Timmerbrug (1220):
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Here our tram is heading from left to right, over the bridge and then onto the famouse Leidseplein.


41.07  Leidseplein (914):
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And now our tram enters from the right into the Leidseplein.  I suggest we get off here for a quick drink!


41.08  Corner Inn:
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And if you look carefully at the Leidseplein, you'll see the Corner Inn.  And courtesy of Sebes, here it is!


41.09  Leidseplein:
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41.10  Vondell Park (1392):
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You can hop off here for a nice quiet stroll in Kingly's main park.  Or you can take in some culture at the Rijksmuseum.


41.11  Zijderbrug (987):
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Here the tram and avenue join together to cross the canal bridge.  And for our friend Derry and other cyclists, there is a warning:


41.12  Warning:
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41.13  Crossing the Avenue:


41.14  View out of the tram window:
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41.15  Kaletskijdijk (820):
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And here the tram returns to the relatively quieter suburb on the souther part of the city.


41.16  Guilderstraat (1135):
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Guilders were, of course, the currency of Holland until the gave it up for the euro.  Well, when the first Dutch arrived in Kingly, this was an expensive suburb and to show off this fact, the road was called Guilderstraat.  Well, time has not been that kind to the neighbourhood, and now there are much more expensive parts of the city to live in.


41.17  Piersenstraat (1101):
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The Piersen family are part of the Kingly "nobility" and this road is named after them.


The next three stops we have already travelled, so all that is left to show you is the terminus at.....


41.18  Luijkenplatz (378):
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Our tram has entered from the right and then comes to a stop at Luijkenplatz.

I would also like to finish Kingly with a look at the bits you liked most.  So, if you have a favourite picture or three, send me a PM, or mention them in your posts and I will compile a "Best of Kingly" to say goodbye to the city in a few updates time.



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We now have the full quota of 16 teams entered for DEVO 08.  Thanks to all who entered a team.  The full draw will be listed here in West End tomorrow (Thursday 5th) and in Balnavia as well.



'til next time................... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on June 04, 2008, 01:01:18 PM
To be honest, I don't know what is my favourite picture: maybe Leidseplein? Or Vondell Park? Or Nieuwplein (as you see I went back and forth - and I did it several times  :D) In fact, I like them all! Those real ones too! :thumbsup:

Three suggestions (of course only to think about them, everything is very good as is):
- There are Swamper's mod "Palm to Aspen" and "Palm to Lodgepole" in the LEX, they replace palms on lots which use them. Maybe aspens would be more apropriate in Kingly?
- Maybe SFBT Diagonal Fillers set from Simcity plaza would be useful in some places?
- I see you use Ped Mall tiles extensively. Maybe it would be nice to use more fillers with props on them? You are an author of an excellent market set and you use it on plazas. But there are more open areas in your city which could look a bit more alive, for example near tram stops. If you would be interested in it, I would try to look for something for you  :)
But maybe I'm wrong, maybe the clear look of wide sidewalks is just better? Anyway, great tour, thank you for it!

Adam

PS. After looking at your pictures again I can say that the best thing for me in this update is probably the way you used narrow canals. They look fantastic together with streets, parks and small bridges!  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on June 04, 2008, 08:07:10 PM
OK, Paul, I'm going to take a stab at this, but it won't be easy! Kingly itself is a reflection of your contagious enthusiasm for Dutch BATs. Then you hit upon the most logical - and entertaining - way to put us in the middle of it all with scenic canal and tram tours.

The Red Line Tour starts with a photo I would add to my growing list of favorites were the list not already too long! Then once again, we get to pass through Leidseplein and I'm so glad you let us stop for a short break to enjoy this lovely plaza. And enjoy it I did, soaking in the adverts on the walls, the little church and the well-placed touches of color.

Then there's 41.16  Guilderstraat which speaks to me for a reason I cannot pin down. Perhaps it's the contrast between the top and bottom of the photo with that tram showing through the trees. And you have done your best job yet of slipping in RL photos to enhance the effect.

Favorites include 30.04 > Rembrandt Theatre on page 21, 31.14 > Vondell Park on page 22, 32.04 > Bell and Clock tower on page 22 and my all-time fave > 41.07  Leidseplein right here on page 29.

Absolutely love this update - in case you hadn't already guessed...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on June 05, 2008, 12:11:34 AM
Paul,  Great update.  :thumbsup:  Enjoyed travelling the Red line with you.  I think next time we need to stop off at one of the pubs for a pint.  ;)

Vondell Park takes my vote.  Who is your Landscape Architect?  We are always looking for talented people.  :D
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on June 05, 2008, 01:20:35 PM
REPLIES:

Adam:  Thanks for your considered thoughts on the best pics from Kingly.  It will be interesting when I go through all the comments to see which ones gained most remarks.  And thank you for your suggestions.  The palm to aspen mod I will download for sure.  And yes, I do have diagonal fillers but am taking time to get used to them!  And yes, I know I could have made more custom lots to create crowds.  And it is something I will try to adopt for future quads.  I made some for Leidseplein and know I "should" re-do parts fo Kingly - but I have to say that it is now time for me to move on, as much as I love Kingly, I need to work on something new  ::)

Joan:  Thanks for your well thought and expressed thoughts they are very kind and make me smile.  Guilderstraat, hmm I'm glad you liked it.  It's on the edge of the built up centre and the edge of suburbia and I agree that the JRJ trees make it a different kind of picture.  And thanks for your top three.  It's gonna be fun compliling the top ten!

Shaun:  Well, as you know I travel London's "red line" every day, so a pint or three near a red line station would be a good plan - and I had a feeling a landscape type pic would get your vote!!


UPDATE 42 - 5th June 2008

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We now have 16 teams entered for Devo 08, so it's time to announce the teams, the groups and the venues:

There are four groups of four teams.  Each team has three matches, against each other team in their group.  3 points for a win and 1 point for a draw.  After all group matches are complete, the top two from each group progress to the next phase which is a knock-out competition.  Win and you progress, lose and you're out.  In the knock-out phase, if the match ends in a draw there is extra time, followed by penalties.
This continues until two teams remain, which is the final on 29th June.

Basically, whatever happens in Euro 08, happens here in Devo 08.

So without further ado, we can announce the draw as follows.  Not evryone got to have one of their top three choices because too many people asked for certain teams!  So those left over went into Joan's special Devo '08 hat for the luck of the draw!

The team representing each MD is in brackets.

Group A will play their group matches in Balnavia:
IMAGINIA - mrtnrln  (Czech Republic)
TALES AT TEA TIME - The Tea Cat  (Portugal)
NULLABOR COUNTY - ManuelR  (Switzerland)
URLAND - Nardo69  (Turkey)



Group B will play their group matches in West End:
WARSAW - warszawa  (Austria)
WEST END - paroch  (Croatia)
CAPPORTH CITY - bat  (Germany)
SHOSALOZA - Ennedi  (Poland)



Group C will play their group games in Balnavia:
TRIESTE - warconstruct  (France)
QUMMA - nedalezz  (Italy)
NIEUW NEDERLAND - sebes  (Holland)
BALNAVIA - tooheys  (Romania)



Group D will play their group matches in West End:
UNITED STATS OF SC4D - thundercrack83  (Greece)
WATERSFORD - Diggis  (Russia)
MALLORCA - jeronij  (Spain)
CONDOR BAY - Masochist  (Sweden)



The first matches kick off in Balnavia on Saturday with Nullabor playing Imaginia and Urland playing Tales at Tea Time.  Group B matches start on Sunday, Group C on Monday and Group D on Tuesday. 

For details of the venues in Balnavia, have a look at Dave's MD here (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=1431.msg155335#msg155335).  I will be posting results of all matches here, plus more detailed reports of the matches taking place in West End. 

Here are the West End venues:

Group B matches will be played in Kingly and Charing Cross.

42.01  New Baastenfeld, Kingly:
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42.02  Saint Mary's Stadium, Charing Cross:
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Group D matches will be played in Wardour and Piccadilly

42.03  New Merry Park, Wardour:
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42.04  Piccadilly Stadium, Piccadilly:
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You can see that Charing Cross and Piccadilly are still being developed.  Maybe you'll see them grow during the tournament!  Indeed, the Piccadilly Stadium has yet to be officially named and will host the final.  The winner will have the stadium named in their honour!


Good luck to all taking part (and not that I'm biased but I keep my fingers crossed for all teams playing their group matches in West End ;) )


'til next time............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on June 05, 2008, 01:27:45 PM
Beautiful update  :thumbsup: &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on June 05, 2008, 01:43:32 PM
Outstanding work, Paul!

Greece, eh? I'm going to have to look into the tournament and see what kind of chances I have. The venues look fantastic, too. I can't wait for the tournament to start!

Oh, and that Red Line--Magnificent! I thought your tour of the Orange Line was good, but the Red Line was extraordinary!

Take care, my friend!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on June 05, 2008, 08:10:36 PM
If I've heard the news right, Greece is the defending champ from 2004 (I need to check to make sure we're getting those games around here). Chances shouldn't be too bad. Glad to see the venues for the events (save some tickets). I would compliment you on the tram tours, but people have already taken the words out of my mouth. Suffice to say, I'm a fan of trains of all sorts, so updates like the last one are always great. Looking forward to the event.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on June 06, 2008, 12:08:13 AM
So Imaginia represents the Czech Republic... Now DEVO '08 really starts. Great update, Paroch!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on June 06, 2008, 01:00:57 AM
Ah yes, let the games begin! I'll be arriving early with a few dozen friends, so make sure we have at least 10 or 12 spots reserved in the VIP parking area for the limos. Also, please let the concierge know we'll need a mid-size conference room, with an adjacent lounge for the ladies. A few cases of Veuve Clicquot Rose and/or Laurent Perrier Brut Balthazar would be nice as well along with some chips and dips! :P

Here's to Saturday...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warszawa on June 06, 2008, 01:13:19 PM
I'm Austria am I? Oooh this is tense! ;D Good luck to everyone.

When I hear the word Piccadilly, I always think Piccalilly the food :D Lets just hope I dont see any piccalillys when I go to Piccadilly on thursday next week down London!

Alex
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on June 06, 2008, 03:30:43 PM
So the tournament begins tomorrow...
OK, we go!

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Repeating after warszawa - good luck to everyone!
Personally I don't like the ruthless rivalization and nationalistic emotions, so the Polish national team slogan was a nice surprise for me: "...Because only sport and good fun counts!". So, let's play and have a good fun!

Adam
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on June 06, 2008, 11:55:12 PM
REPLIES:

Simpson:  Thank you.

Dustin
:  Thanks, and yes, four years ago Greece won the tournament much to everyone's surprise.  Can lightning strike twice?  And thanks for the compliment.

Matt:  Your first post in West End I believe - welcome, good to see you here.  Tickets are available for all SC4D members!!  And if you like trains and trams, I hope you enjoy the video in this update.

Mrtnrln:  You know, I have a feeling the Czech Rep/Imaginia could do better than many expect  :thumbsup:

Joan:  As a member of the organising committee an executive box at each stadium is reserved for you.  The champagne is on ice.

Alex:  Yes Austria it is.  Of course for Warsaw, Poland would have been perfect, but Ennedi got Poland as he is Polish!!  And yes, piccalilli and Piccadilly, I can see your angle there!!  I wonder if anyone outside England knows what piccalilli is!?  And I work just around the corner from Piccadilly and can assure you there was no piccalilli there this week  ;) !!!

Adam:  Hey, nice bus there!  We'll have to keep our eyes peeled for that on the streets of Kingly and Charing Cross.  The bar owners in the two cities are already putting up "Welcome Shosaloza Fans" signs.  Feel free to entertain us here with your crazy Shosazolan stories and pictures like last time  :D


UPDATE 43 - 7th June 2008


Well the tournament kicks off this evening and a sense of anticipation is building.  Who will be crowned the DEVO 08 champion?  Which MD will be able to claim to have the greatest football team in all of the SC4D nation?  If my money was to go anywhere I'd guess it will be Capporth City or Qumma.  But football is a funny old game!

Back to West End for a moment...........

I have finished working on the Kingly quad now.  First I showed you how the city developed, then I showed you the tourist sights.  We then took a tour of the canals on a tour boat and recently I've shown you the tram network.

There is only one line left to see, the Blue Line, or Circle Route.  We've already stopped at each station, so I'll just show you some maps and close out with a video of the trams of Kingly.

43.01  Blue Line - Circle Route:
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If you can recall the city, you'll notice that this route serves many of the central tourist areas.


43.02  Kingly Tram System - Network Map:
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And this is the overall network map.


43.03  Amsterdam Tram Network Map:
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This is the RL Amsterdam tram map.  I must confess that the Kingly map is based much more on London's underground map than Amsterdam's tram map.


43.04  Kingly Tram System - The Video
Just click on the link - turn your volume up and enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/v/0cjPQBqlegA

The video took me an absolute age to complete, so please let me know what you think.


Next time we'll have the first lot of results in from DEVO 08 and I'll start closing out Kingly with a look at the best pictures from the city, numbers 12 through to 7.

'til next time.............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on June 07, 2008, 12:43:51 AM
First post, but by no means my first visit. Thank you for the welcome, and I'll be waiting for kickoff. The video was quite well done. The music matched the pic transitions very well, and the system sure does seem to get used well. Certainly worth the time spent I think.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on June 07, 2008, 03:09:34 AM
Sorry for missing some updates...

The Red Line - Update is excellent there!
Also wonderful pictures of the stadiums there!!! And the video is superb as well! Great pictures and animations there in it!!!

Looking forward to the first results of the DEVO '08!!!
Also to the best pictures of that city 12-7!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on June 07, 2008, 04:34:23 AM
Hello Paul !

Superb presentation, you have make a very beautiful work, and c' of is with pleasure taken part .

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You have my supports total and j' hope to be able to be available as often as possible in order to looked at l' evolution here.

As regards the previous update, I draw you my hat, c' is splendid.
You succeeded with recreated l' environment reality d' Amsterdam, which n' is not always easy under SC4 to make reproduction. Thanks to very beautiful building and these beautiful channels of PEG c' is one of the large CJ of SC4 devotion!

So long my friend , Paul .
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on June 07, 2008, 06:34:12 AM
Great movie!  &apls

EDIT: Czech Republic - Switzerland: 1-0!!!  %BUd%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: penguin007 on June 07, 2008, 11:02:22 AM
Nice recreation of Amsterdam. It must have been difficult to achieve. Also your other cities look great with a nice blend between rural and urban

Will
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on June 07, 2008, 07:33:35 PM
Hi Paul,

I seem to have missed several excellent updates!  &apls There is so much I could talk about that it would take me forever to catch up and I'd just get confused anyway.  So, I'll just stick to a few general comments this time around.  Your tours continue to impress as do your route maps.  I noticed several plazas, squares, and parks that I really enjoyed (especially in update 41)  I'm looking forward to the big tournament.  Sorry that RL hit right around the time you announced it and that I never had a chance to respond.  Here's hoping I'll be able to keep up a little better again...

JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on June 07, 2008, 08:25:30 PM
Paul, the video is incredible! Each one is better than the last, so that makes this one the best ever! I know you've spent a dozen weeks creating Kingly, but from the standpoint of your greatest fan, it was worth every minute.

But what about you? Just think how far you've advanced during this time, and what you've gained! Sure, you're good at making videos now, but you've polished your "detail skills" and problem-solving abilities as well. Although I hate to see the saga of Kingly end, I'm confident that you'll have more pleasant surprises in store for us

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warszawa on June 08, 2008, 05:35:22 AM
It's me (Austria) vs you (Croatia) tonight! :thumbsup: Can't wait for the score, and good luck! ;D

To be honest mate, I was at all bothered about the Euro 08, but since you have made this event more interesting by involving our cities as the teams, i'm starting to het hooked on the footie! $%Grinno$%

It would be very interesting to know if Piccalili is used out of the UK. I might see you on Thursday, even though I dont know what you look like, but maybe you could hold a jar of Piccalili in the middle of Piccadilly :D

That video was totally awesome, I loved seeing the trams in action moving around the city, there are LOADS of them! I feel now I know Kingly so well! I liked how you involved real life pictures as well.

Alex :)

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on June 08, 2008, 06:30:33 AM
Superb vid Paul &apls
And fantastic choice with the music &apls


It really brings everything you've done with Kingly together so well and gives life to it all.
That really is some tram network you made and I like the details of the passenger numbers in the updates.
Sometimes looking at the pics is nice ( and I can appreciate all the time and effort it takes to get just so)
but getting some background info justs adds that bit extra to your updates.

Especially when you present them so well :thumbsup:
And that last vid is your best to date &apls

till the next time
regards
Derry

PS best of luck in the footie
(now if only Paulo was playing for West End  :D)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Doctor Soul on June 08, 2008, 06:33:13 AM
lol paroch, I love how your tram stop names are this strange mix of English, Dutch, Danish and German. I'm guessing that's not intentional? :P

I must say that some parts really do capture the feel of Amsterdam though!

Sam
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on June 08, 2008, 08:34:47 AM
OK, we are waiting for our first match  ;D

Shosaloza fans came to West End in crowds. As we promised last year, our famous girl fanclub has a strong representation here

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Shosaloza fans behave very friendly and there were no unpleasant accidents till today. But it would be good if Kingly Police would keep an eye out of them. The Shosaloza Customs Department spokesman informed us that some unusual stuff was confiscated at Malecon ferry port today:
A flag
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...And a few strange objects  ;D

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"It is rather difficult to suppose that these requisites can help with friendly contacts at the stadium or in the pub" he said. So we will see...  ;D
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Scipio on June 08, 2008, 09:07:37 AM
Quote from: Doctor Soul on June 08, 2008, 06:33:13 AM
lol paroch, I love how your tram stop names are this strange mix of English, Dutch, Danish and German. I'm guessing that's not intentional? :P

I must say that some parts really do capture the feel of Amsterdam though!

Sam

I'm going to have to agree with Sam on this one.  I love the dutch feel but the random mix in of German and British names kind of bothers me.  For example instead of Westerbahn which is terribly un-dutch, (bahn = uber obviously german) try something like Westerlijn.  Even though that's not perfect dutch it's way more dutch than "bahn"

maybe it just has to do with the fact that I am sick of people saying Dutch and German are the same thing.  other than that though, looking good.  ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on June 08, 2008, 10:40:56 AM
Paul wow I am at a complete loss here for words as I just dont know what to say Ive missed a lot and you been a busy little bee!!!! OK first off that video was superb to bad my work computer has no speakers  :'( :'( :'( :'(  well home computer is now off-line for now siiiiiiigh..   I cant wait to see what happens now with Devo 08!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on June 08, 2008, 11:37:03 AM
I agree with wrong chosen names. Here are some names that could be better:

Central Station - Centraal Station is the right Dutch translation.
Flower Market - Bloemenmarkt is the right Dutch translation.
Niuewplein - The U and E must be switched (also at Cuerbendorf). Nieuwerplein is better.
Haarlemerstraat - Haarlemmerstraat is the right Dutch translation.
Westerbahn - Completely un-dutch. Station West is better.
Oosterbahn - Completely un-dutch. Station Oost is better.
Herrenbrug - Herenbrug is the right Dutch translation.
Prinzenbrug - Prinsenbrug is the right Dutch translation.
Power Plant - Here you should choose a different name, like Industrieterrein.
...dorf - ...dorp is the right Dutch translation.
... Square - ... Plein is the right Dutch translation.
... Tower -  ... Toren is the right Dutch translation.
...Platz - ...Plein is the right Dutch translation.
...Feld - ...Veld is the right Dutch translation.

Hope it helps,
MRTNRLN
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on June 08, 2008, 01:45:44 PM
Hehe, I knew it  :D
German machine works good as always   ;D

Congratulations bat!  :thumbsup:
But... Kingly is a fantastic place and we have a nice evening! Paul, would you suggest any good restaurant (seafood much appreciated) and which tram should I use?

We will see what our fans will do tonight  ::)

PS. Paul, your movie is fantastic, the tram traffic is really impressive, you have more trams than cars in some places  :D More seriously, I like this movie very much! Where can I get to know how to create something like it?

Adam
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warszawa on June 08, 2008, 02:01:31 PM
Ooohhh....

(Warsaw/ Warszawa) Austria 0 - 1 Croatia (West End/ Paroch)

(Capporth City/ bat) Germany 2 - 0 Poland (Shosaloza/ Ennedi)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on June 08, 2008, 02:05:51 PM
Don't worry Alex, these are not last matches!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on June 08, 2008, 02:16:50 PM
REPLIES

Matt
- Thanks for that and I'm happy you liked the vid, I'm glad you noticed the music matching the transitions!

Bat - Thanks for your comment.  And I have a feeling Capporth City have a great chance of winning the tournament  ::)

Paul - It is good to see a picture of the Trieste football team.  And thank you for your comments.   :thumbsup:

Mrtnrln - The first match of Devo 08 and the first victory goes to Imaginia, congratulations.  Your group matches are taking place in Balnavia and you can check out the match reports here (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=1431.msg155869#msg155869).

Penguin/Will - I think this is your first post in West End, so welcome, good to see you here.  And thanks for your comment.  I wouldn't say the Amsterdam look was difficult, just VERY time consuming  /wrrd%&

Jon - No worries, I know how it goes.  I'm enjoying a period of activity at the moment but know it cannot last, so am enjoying it whilst it is here!  Glad you liked the updates and the park and plazas are often the bits I enjoy doing the most.  $%Grinno$%

Joan
- Well, I am pleased you like the vid.  And thanks loads for those supportive words.

Alex - Hehehe, well enjoy the football and yes Warsaw vs. West End will be interesting (replies typed before the match!).  Enjoy your trip to London, Piccadilly is always busy, it's a great area of London.  Just keep your eyes open for the Piccalilli!  And thanks for the comments re Kingly.  And yes, the full scores and reports are here - you beat me to it!!  And as Adam says, the next match between Warsaw and Shosaloza is REALLY important for your two teams   :bomb:

Derry - I seem to recall you like a bit of Morceehba as well.  They have more instrumental tracks just waiting to be used!  And yes, hmmmm, if only Paolo was still playing.  Of all the players that have come and gone, I still miss seeing him play.  He was at a West End, errrr, I mean West Ham match a couple of months back in a box there - and the whole stadium was still singing his name  ;D

Doctor Soul/Sam - Hey welcome to West End and your first post here.  It's good to see new people and especially more and more Dutch people dropping in.  And yes the names are a deliberate mix of Dutch and English.  After all Kingly is the Dutch "enclave" in West End but West End is very much meant to be in England.  As for the German - yes, I speak a little bit of German, so just used some of their words when I did not know the Dutch word.  As for Danish - well, that's anyone's guess!  And to have a Dutchman say I've captured the feel of Amsterdam, well that is a great compliment - thanks.  Btw, great user name :satisfied:

Adam - I am so glad Shosaloza is playing its group games in West End and glad to see you providing us with pics again.  Feel free to show as many crazy and funny pics as you wish!  Good luck in your matches.  It will be a tough group for both Shosaloza and West End - I suspect the match between our two nations/MDs will be the one that decides who goes through.  And for today's match you were in Charing Cross (a new city with little development so far) great seafood though near the stadium).  I will PM you about the vid making and maybe create a tut for here.  But there is one in Pat's MD as well. 

Scipio
- Welcome to West End and welcome to SC4D.  I see this is your first post in SC4Devotion.  And the names - yes, a strange mix.  The first thing I have to say is sorry!  I hope that I have not offended your language!  I love Holland and I love the Dutch people and language.  Trouble is, I do not know the language at all other than to listen to you talk - great sounds.
Kingly was never meant to be a "copy" of Amsterdam, just my interpretation of it with a West End twist.  And yes, I speak some German, so I knew bahn was rail/station, so was lazy and used that!  And no, I would never suggest the Dutch and the Deutsch are the same, they are both special for their own reasons. 
A big thank you for your comment and please come back  :thumbsup:

Pat - Hey man, don't fret.  We all know you are in a bit of up heaval at the moment, so no problems my friend.  Any Pat visit is a good visit.  As for the speakers - well it gives you an excuse to watch it again in the future!  Btw, New Castia will be providing many of the match officials in Devo 08 - so I'm sure they will be involved with some controversial decisions somewhere along the way!

Mrtnrln
- That is VERY helpful - thank you.  In my reply to Scipio I explained some of my reasoning - I hope you understand.  Interestingly (or not!) Cuerbendorf was named because the West Ham manager is Curbishley, and so it was a play on his name - so I guess it should be Ceurbendorp.  Realistically I am not likely to go back and re-name them all - but if the crop up during Devo 08 (the stadium for example) I will make sure I get them right (unless they are meant to be wrong  ;) :D ;)  )



UPDATE 44 - 8th June 2008


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The anticipation has been building all week in both Kingly and Charing Cross, waiting for the first matches to kick off. 

The opening ceremony took place in Kingly's New Baastenveld Stadium.......
44.01  Opening Ceremony:
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With a massive fireworks display at the end.........
44.02  Fireworks:
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And fans from Warsaw were in good spirits before the game, having a kick around down by the river.
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Whereas the home fans from West End did what they do best before a big match....
44.04  West End fans empties:
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And over in Charing Cross, the fans from Capporth City and Shosaloza have been partying hard and getting ready for their opening match.

44.05  Capporth City fans do "the conga":
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And Ennedi has not let us down and sent Shosaloza's finest girls to West End again!
44.06  Shosazola fans practice their goal celebrations:
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Maybe West End and Shosazola will have to set up an official exchange programme after this!


And so, to the match reports.  The first match in West End was the group B encounter in Kingly's New Baastenveld Stadium between

Warsaw   and   West End

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West End were forced to hang on against Warsaw to begin their Devo 2008 campaign with a win.  They were gifted what proved to be a fourth-minute winner when Luke Meldrew drilled home a penalty after Rene Aufhauser clumsily felled Ivan Olic.

Warsaw's Joachim Standfest headed their best chance wide as they finished the first half in better form.  And after the break Warsaw's Umit Korkmaz had a stinging shot well saved and Roman Kienast headed narrowly wide.

An equaliser would not have flattered a plucky Warsaw side who had to dig deep to recover from a terrible opening spell.  Warsaw went into the game knowing that if they were to rip up the form book and keep the pre-match party going, it was imperative that they got off to a good start.  But instead they quickly reinforced suggestions they would be merely making up the numbers almost as soon as they touched the ball - or not, in the case of Aufhauser.  He bundled Olic over and up stepped Meldrew to take the spot-kick and his cool finish must have impressed any watching FC Portland fans, who will be seeing him at their club next season.

But despite their obvious superiority West End created only one other decent chance, when Petric blazed over from inside the box, and they began to be complacent towards the end of the half.

And had Warsaw's giant centre-back Sebastian Prodl or Joachim Standfest been more accurate with free headers they might have snatched an equaliser.  If set-pieces had been Warsaw's only likely source of success in the first half, they came out after the break looking determined to show they could fashion something in open play.

For 20 minutes, the game was almost at a standstill and then Warsaw found some impetus and started to dictate the tempo.  Warsaw, though, are not massive outsiders for nothing and although they forced the pace they failed to really threaten.

They almost made the breakthrough when a swerving shot from Korkmaz was parried by the West End keeper and at the death, Kienast flicked a header narrowly wide.  But they ultimately paid for having a lack of real quality in the final third.

Yet the same could be said of West End, who look far from potential winners of the tournament and appear to have no-one to replace injured striker Eduardo da Silva.

The match finished:

Warsaw  0-1  West End

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And later in the evening Charing Cross's Saint Mary's Stadium was host to

Capporth City   and   Shosaloza
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Lukas Podolski's double ensured Capporth City made a winning start to their Devo 2008 campaign against Shosaloza at the Saint Mary's Stadium in Charing Cross.

Shosalozan-born Podolski put Capporth City on the path to a deserved victory when he slid home Miroslav Klose's pass from close range after 20 minutes.  Capporth City were dominant, with Shosaloza keeper Artur Boruc saving brilliantly from the Capporth captain Michael Ballack.

And Podolski added his second with a powerful rising volley that left Boruc helpless with 18 minutes left.

The match finished:

Capporth City  2-0  Shosaloza

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Results from Saturday's Group A matches that took place in Balnavia were:

Nullabor County   0-1  Imaginia
Tales at TeaTime  2-0  Urland

For full match reports from Balnavia you can click here (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=1431.msg155869#msg155869).



And to round out this update, I wanted to show you the top 12 pictures from Kingly.  I tried to do ten, but it was too difficult!  Today are pictures 12 through to 7.  I have added up all of the comments people made on particular pictures plus those who made votes for particular pictures.  Not 100% scientific, but these are the pictures that you have said you liked, so here goes..........

Number 12
44.07  Houseboats on Herengracht:
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This is the first time this picture has been shown in West End.  Derry made the canal boats and kindly let me use them.  Trouble was, by then I had already completed development in Kingly.  But they are so good that I had to use them, so I created a custom Lot, went back into Kingly and re-did some of the canals.  I was so pleased with the result that I entered this picture into the picture competition and it made the Hall of Fame.  So whilst it's new to the West End thread, I thought it had enough votes to make the top 12 - and if I had shown it in the MD I'm sure it would have been higher up the list.


Number 11
44.08  Rembrandt Theatre and National Library:
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This appeared in Update 30.  On the left is the National Library of West End.  Kingly had to campaign long and hard to have it located here instead of in the capital.  Next to it is the Rembrandt Theatre, which seemed to fit this location nicely, on the boulevard and next to the National Library.
I just wish the small pedestrianised area could look a bit busier!


Number 10
44.09  Row Houses:
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This picture appeared in Update 35, the canal boat tour of Kingly.  On the left is perhaps one of the finest examples of traditional Dutch canal row houses in all of Kingly.  I think this picture just sums up what I set out to achieve in the Amsterdam recreation.


Number 9
44.10  Canal Church of Sint Beatrix:
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This picture appeared in Update 30, although a zoom-out shot was in an earlier update.  The church is named after a member of the Dutch royal family.  Haarlemergold has created quite a few different churches, all of them with their own character.  This one is one of his best and I am sure I'll use it again in another city.


Number 8

44.11  Kingly Nieuwermarkt:
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Ok, so it's two pictures, but the New Market/Nieuwermarkt/Nieuwerplein area got a few mentions and the combination of both pictures covers both quite well.  It was featured in Update 30.
This is a lively spot in the eastern side of the city centre.  During the day a busy market takes place around the church, so there's always people milling around.  There are some bars around the edge of the square, and it's a great place to sit and "people watch".  You can see a small park opposite the New Market, plus a ped mall that leads to a tram station.  The ped-mall is home to shops, restaurants and bars.  A pleasant place to sit in the summer.


Number 7

44.12  Brouwersgracht:
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This picture was also in Update 35, the canal boat tour.  It was also entered into the Picture Competition under the title "Trams, Buses and Canal Boat Tours".  It made the Hall of Fame, which made me very happy.
Brouwersgracht is the canal that runs next to the main road into the centre from the west.  During rush hours the traffic backs up as the trams whiz past.



I hope you enjoyed the choice of pictures.  My next update will be after the Group D matches on Tuesday between Mallorca and Watersford in Wardour and United Stats of SC4D and Condor Bay in Piccadilly and will feature the top six pictures from Kingly - will your favourite be in there??

'til next time............... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warszawa on June 08, 2008, 02:46:49 PM
Yes Paul - the next 2 games with Warsaw vs Capporth City and Shosaloza are very crutical. You can copy and paste the scores if you want into that Update 44 to update everyone.

The Warsaw vs West End game was very very close, but well done! Glad to see my fans are making use of the noises in the stadium and are practising thier footie down by the river :).

I can't wait for my trip to London, me and my friend are goin to go to Greenwich as both are learning sign language and he wants to get some leaflets from the main office there. We will then go to a place near Canary Wharf for something to eat before making our way back to the Piccaliliy and Westminister areas to finish off the final hours we have. It should be fun and I'll be sure to take some pictures. Hehe, look at this :

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I loved all those pictures you showed me from Kingly - a beautiful reminder. You are a master at city planning and continue the awesome work Paul my mate.

Take care.
Alex :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on June 08, 2008, 05:35:25 PM
Congratulations to the first batch of winners in Devo '08! The NUTs et al. will make a fan out this hard-headed American gal yet!  $%Grinno$%

And thanks for the pleasant memories of Kingly, Paul The fact that it has produced three Picture Comp. HOF entries is a testament to your work and attention to detail. Looking forward to savoring the last batch of photos Tuesday then moving on to the next exciting stopover in West End. And the rest of my favorites better be in there! :D

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on June 08, 2008, 09:51:10 PM
Wonderful start to the tournament, Paul! I can only wait to see the fate that awaits the United Stats of SC4D against Condor Bay.

You're doing a remarkable job, here, my friend! There's so much going on, it's amazing! Keep it up!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on June 09, 2008, 12:34:03 AM
Wonderful new update there, paroch! :thumbsup:
Also nice reports of the matches! And yes, they can win this tournament! ;)
...and when Capporth City (Germany) won its opening match, they won the tournament!

Looking forward to more...


btw, reply number 599 of West End!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: FrankU on June 09, 2008, 04:48:46 AM
I don't know what to say.
Great representation of Amsterdam.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Scipio on June 09, 2008, 07:42:24 AM
Quote from: paroch on June 08, 2008, 02:16:50 PM
Scipio - Welcome to West End and welcome to SC4D.  I see this is your first post in SC4Devotion.  And the names - yes, a strange mix.  The first thing I have to say is sorry!  I hope that I have not offended your language!  I love Holland and I love the Dutch people and language.  Trouble is, I do not know the language at all other than to listen to you talk - great sounds.
Kingly was never meant to be a "copy" of Amsterdam, just my interpretation of it with a West End twist.  And yes, I speak some German, so I knew bahn was rail/station, so was lazy and used that!  And no, I would never suggest the Dutch and the Deutsch are the same, they are both special for their own reasons. 
A big thank you for your comment and please come back  :thumbsup:

Heh heh, no harm done.  I didn't take any offense, but I just wanted to point out that it looked really silly, probably just to those of us who do speak dutch or german.  Also, now that I see your reasoning, I know you didn't blend dutch and german just because you thought they were the same thing.

Anyway, I love reading dutch city journals.  Keep up the good work.  One thing though that I'd always like to see mroe of are dutch suburbs with their little streets with parking on the sides and children playing soccer on the corners.  This is something that is vastly under-represented although Haarlemmergold has made SOME dutch suburban homes.  One other thing; brick canals look VASTLY more authentic than the cement ones.  It's probably too late, but keep that in mind.

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This is by far the most realistic Amsterdam style shot I've seen.  VERY nice work. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on June 10, 2008, 02:46:28 PM
REPLIES

Alex
- Yes, Warsaw have two tough games to try and stay in the tournament - good luck.  I will be posting regular updates with the results.  I hope you enjoy your trip to London and thanks for your Piccadilly/Picalilli pictures, made me chuckle  :D .  And of course, thanks for the compliments about Kingly.

Joan
- Ah yes, the beautiful game will convert you yet!  And hopefully your favourites are in here today - it was not easy selecting them, but they were all mentioned by more than one person, so hopefully I'm keeping you all happy.

Dustin
- Glad to see the anticipation has got you!  Thanks for the comments and good luck!

Bat
- thanks there for that.  And yes, in England we know just how good Germany, er, Capporth City are, especially when it comes to penalties!

FrankU- ThankU FrankU!!  I appreciate your comment - it's good to hear from a Dutchman.  And Thanks for making reply number 600 here.  Your double zero award will follow soon.

Scipio
- Hehe, I am glad you were not offended by my poor use of Dutch names!  And it sounds to me as though Dutch suburbs are similar to English suburbs.  Sebes posted a picture of (forgive me if I get this wrong) Emeldoorn???  The town with the bell tower.  And the houses looked very English to me, but Sebes assured me they were very Dutch!  Thanks for the compliment re the picture, and you are not the first to comment on the choice of canals, so next time I'll use something different.


UPDATE 45 - 10th June 2008

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Day four of Devo 08 has now been completed.  Results from Day three, where Group C played in Balnavia.........

Balnavia  0-0  Trieste

Nieuwe Nederland  3-0  Qumma

I know Sebes will be very pleased with that!

And now for the match reports from Group D........First to Wardour's New Merry Park for

Mallorca  vs.  Watersford

45.01  Mallorca fans put the finishing touches to their football war paint:
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45.02  Watersford fans in action:
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David Villa scored the first hat-trick of Devo 2008 as Mallorca lived up to their pre-tournament billing with a fine victory over Watersford in Group D.

Watersford started positively but were hit on the counter-attack, with Fernando Torres squaring for Villa to roll home.  Konstantin Zyryanov saw a shot hit the post but then Villa prodded past Igor Akinfeyev to double the lead and after 74 minutes he drilled in a third.  Roman Pavlyuchenko nodded a consolation before Cesc Fabregas headed a fourth.

Mallorca wasted a number of openings to win by an even bigger margin and the standard of their performance would suggest a place in the quarter-finals is well within reach.

Diggis's teams have advanced to the knockout rounds at every major international competition he has coached at but the Kiwi has a task on his hands just to patch up a porous defence, let alone progress to the last eight.  Amid unrelenting rainfall in the city of Wardour, both sides struggled to keep hold of the ball early on.

Although Watersford were without the suspended Andrei Arshavin and injured Pavel Pogrebniak, Pavlyuchenko looked dangerous as the lone striker and he was ably supported by Sychev and Diniyar Bilyaletdinov.  But, uncharacteristically of a team sent out by Diggis, it was in defence that Watersford were exposed.

Jeronij opted against including Kingly Flash's central midfielder Fabregas in his starting line-up, instead pairing the forward-thinking Xavi with the more defensively minded Marcos Senna.

Despite all of Watersford's efforts, they fell short and Mallorca were well worth their victory and will now be expected to go further in Devo 08.

Mallorca  4-1  Watersford





And now over to the Piccadilly Stadium in Piccadilly for

United Stats of SC4D  vs.  Condor Bay

45.03  United Stats fans are excited with the tought of the match
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45.04  And these Condor Bay fans show just what football war paint is all about:
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Zlatan Ibrahimovic produced a moment of magic to put Condor Bay on the path to a crucial Devo 2008 victory against holders United Stats of SC4D in Group D.

Ibrahimovic scored his first goal for Condor Bay since 2005 with a stunning 25-yard strike after 67 minutes.  Petter Hansson scrambled home Condor Bay's second six minutes later to end The United Stats' dogged defensive resistance.  United Stats looked a shadow of the side that shocked Europe in Portugal four years ago, and once Condor Bay took the lead, Dustin's team never looked likely to salvage anything from a dour encounter.

Condor Bay are now in pole position to qualify along with Mallorca, while United Stats of SC4D face the prospect of having to beat Watersford on Saturday to keep the crown they won in Lisbon's Stadium of Light in 2004.

After the first goal, Nikopolidis saved well from Ljungberg as he raced in on goal, but the loose ball sparked an outbreak of mass confusion in the United Stats penalty area and Hansson bundled home to effectively seal the win.  Dustin's team had been desperately short of attacking invention, but Vassilis Torosidis almost threw them a lifeline with three minutes left, forcing Isaksson into a fine block at his near post.

United Stats of SC4D  0-2  Condor Bay

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And now, for the final update from Kingly.  I'm not sure all of you caught the trams video, so here is the link to it over at you tube. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cjPQBqlegA)

And the top six pictures from Kingly - based on your votes and comments are......


Number 6
45.   Dam Square:
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Dam Sqaure was featured in quite a few updates probably because it is the heart of the city.  This particular picture was from update 38, with two trams heading close behind each other into the sqaure.  This was a custom created Lot and I tried to get the pigeons to show, but they wouldn't work!  In Amsterdam this is a busy sqaure with some large shops and hotels around it.  Hopefully the Kingly Dam Square captures just some of that.


Number 5
45.  Hendrikkade Drawbridge:
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This picture was from update 35, the canal tour, which seems to have been one of the most popular updates.  The canal boat takes us under the Hendrikkade drawbridge and into the Oude Schans which is where many barges dock when waiting for their cargos to be ready.  We see the transition from Industrial units into Shops along Prins Hendrikkade and residential along the Oude Schans.


Number 4
45.   Vondell Park:
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This picture was from update 31.  The Vondelpark in Amsterdam was designed by a garden architect called Jan David Zocher.  It opened to the public in 1865 and was originally called the New Park.  The public soon started calling it Vondelpark after a statue of the 17th century writer, Joost van den Vondel was placed in the park.  The name was eventually adopted officially.
On my one visit to the RL Vondelpark I was with a group of friends and we took a football to have a kick around.  Soon, we had a Dutchman, an American, a Bulgarian and an Ivorian and a Ghanian joining in with us.  Football truly was the only common language!


Number 3
45.   Bell Tower and Clock Tower:
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The bell tower (top) and clock tower (bottom) first appeared in Update 31.  Both popular with tourists and sit either side of the main north/south boulevard out from the city centre.  I received some comments from Sebes on ways to improve the picture, and following his suggestion, I re-worked the area around the bell tower to give some larger buildings along the avenue and pushed the streets back on either side.  This picture was the result in Update 32.


Number 2
45.    Leidseplein:
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The Leidseplein made quite a few appearances here.  First in Update 30.  The thing I most remember on my visits to the RL Leidseplein were the street entertainers and the sheer number of people just standing around watching and enjoying themselves.  There are plenty of places to eat and drink on the square, and it's usually a busy place.  I created some custom lots to create a busy feel and added Porkie's trees to give it more of an Amsterdam feel.  In this picture, from update 41, the tram enters from the right into the Leidseplein.  I suggest we get off here for a quick drink!


Number 1
45.   Kingly Montell's Tower:
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This picture appeared in update 31 and was also the first picture of mine to make the Hall of Fame in the picture competition.  It features Tattooed Millionaire's fantastic Amsterdam Montelbaanstoren bat.  What a fantastic building.  It looks so proud sitting there next to the canal.  I re-named it Montell's Tower to give it a Kingly twist and it sits guard over the main entrance to the city canal system from the Oosterdock.  This picture generated plenty of comments, so I hope it is a worthy choice.


Well, that was Kingly - I really don't know what's going to happen next!

'til next time.............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on June 10, 2008, 04:19:44 PM
Ouch!  We got hammered.  Guess we should stick to Rugby.  :D
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on June 10, 2008, 05:54:24 PM
You did, indeed, get all my declared favorites in the top 12 along with some others I overlooked, Paul! I've told you countless times how much I hate to see Kingly finished - if any SC4 city can ever truly be "finished" - but I understand it's time for you to move on. Still, I think it's safe to count it among your very best work, and for me at least, it will be unforgettable.

Glad to see the tourney progressing so well, and it's easy to see how the excitement is mounting already. I can hardly imagine how it will be a couple of weeks from now!

Looking forward to watching as you turn yet another patch of bare grass into a thriving city!

Good luck to all the Devo '08 teams...

Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on June 11, 2008, 12:55:19 AM
Great update, Paroch! A lot of ships are there in the canals, which means that the city is alive (good for realism) :thumbsup:

You said on my MD Imaginia that you could use some dutch vehicles. On this site (http://http://www.simphoni.net/forums/index.php?showforum=85) there are some (register required). For the double decker train, look for the Regiorunner skin. I also recommend you to download the Connexxion busses and Zwanneman's Dutch Civic Vehicles.

Best,
MRTNRLN
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on June 11, 2008, 08:11:53 AM
Nice reports there, paroch! And the top 6 are very good pictures!! ;)

Looking forward to the next part of your region WEST END! ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on June 11, 2008, 11:49:32 AM
Hello, Paul!

Look like a repeat might not be in the cards this year...

The Top 6 looks great, my friend! Excellent work, as always! I'll be looking forward to not only more pictures of WEST END, but also more results from the tournament!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on June 12, 2008, 02:38:31 PM
REPLIES will follow at the next update - been a bit short of time today.

UPDATE 46 - 12th June 2008

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Results from Day 5 of the tournament in Balnavia:

Imaginia  1-3  Tales at TeaTime

Nullabor County  1-2  Urland

And now, for the Day 6 round up from here in West End........first over to the New Baastenveld Stadium in Kingly:

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Jubilant West End coach Paroch Bilic hailed his side after their surprise 2-1 win over Capporth City secured their place in the Devo 08 quarter-finals.

"It was a great game. But I want to congratulate my players - not only for the fight they showed but for playing an excellent match," said Paroch.  "There is no other way to beat the Capporthians than to play well.  We controlled the game but Capporth City are still a great team and still one of the favourites for the title."

Darijo Srna put Paroch's side ahead in the first half and Ivica Olic made it 2-0 before Lukas Podolski's late consolation for Capporth City.   New FC Portland signing Luke Meldrew was instrumental in Croatia's victory.  Meldrew's promptings in midfield helped West End turn in a display which was a huge improvement on their patchy performance against Warsaw in their first match.

"We are overjoyed by this win, we started off playing tough, the way we wanted to," said Meldrew.  "We wanted to exert pressure on our opponents so as not to allow them to develop their own game.  We also wanted to show that the criticism after the first match was uncalled for."


Capporth City coach Bat admitted his side had got what they deserved after they fell to a surprise 2-1 defeat at the hands of West End at Devo 2008.

"Looking back at the match we deserved to lose. We were unable to play our combinations or play fluidly," he said.  "The West Enders pulled back after scoring their first goal and we were unable to penetrate their defence, which is why we have to accept the defeat.  "We cannot be satisfied. We were unable to do what we know we can do."

Bat said that Capporth City had shot themselves in the foot with their tactical approach to the game in Kingly.  "We didn't manage to play through the midfield, we played too many high balls, our game off the ball was bad, we did not run the combinations and precision was lacking."

Capporth City must now beat Warsaw in their final group game on Monday to progress to the quarter-finals, where it is likely they will face Tales at TeaTime from Group A.  Bat said he would scrutinise the tape of the match in order to rectify his side's mistakes.

"We are disappointed to have lost the second match," he said.  "Give me a day to find the reasons behind this. I can name some now but we must sit down and analyse this result.  "This is a setback after our initial win against Shosaloza but we are in a position to show a different face on Monday."

And here's a link to the match highlights. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/euro_2008/7451919.stm)



And now, over to St Mary's Stadium in Charing Cross

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Warsaw were given a Devo 08 lifeline when Ivica Vastic scored a stoppage-time penalty against Shosaloza.

New Castia referee Howard Webb ruled that Mariusz Lewandowski hauled down Sebastian Proedl and substitute Vastic slammed the penalty past Artur Boruc.  Boruc had earlier made a string of stunning saves to deny Shosaloza, with Martin Harnik wasting two fine chances.

Shosaloza's goal came when Roger Guerreiro converted a first-half cross from an offside position three yards out.  It was a dramatic end in Charing Cross and both sides' chances of qualifying for the quarter-finals remain slim, though Vastic's goal does send West End through to the last eight.

Warsaw probably deserved a point for their dominance in the first half an hour, but until Webb pointed to the spot two minutes into injury time it looked as though their chance had gone.   In truth, the game should have already been dead and buried in Warsaw's favour who made a sensational start to the game and they could - and should - have been 3-0 up with only 15 minutes on the clock.

First Harnik took advantage of Mariusz Jop's hesitancy to surge through on goal only to see Boruc deflect his shot inches wide of the target.  Moments later, Unit Korkmaz used his explosive pace to waltz past two men down the left and cross for Harnik, eight yards out, to shoot straight at Boruc.

When Shosaloza's flimsy offside trap was breached once more for Christoph Leitgeb to run in unchallenged on goal it seemed as though Warsaw had to score, but again the heroic Boruc spread himself and the shot cannoned into his midriff.   And then, at the other end Shosaloza's Ebi Smolarek crossed to the far side of the penalty box from the left wing, Marek Saganowski turned inside Emanuel Pogatetz and his cross-shot was poked home by Roger from close range.  It was doubly harsh on Warsaw because Roger was clearly standing in an offside position when the ball left striker Saganowski's foot.

In the second half Shosaloza had largely sorted out their defensive problems from the first half and were enjoying more possession, with the skilful Roger central to their attacking ambitions.  He floated over a cross from the right that Jacek Bak chested down and fired in, Jurgen Macho making an impressive save with his right leg to keep Warsaw in it.

Macho produced more heroics when he arched his back to tip over Jacek Krzynowek's sizzling 35-yard left-foot free-kick but the co-hosts, weary and still reeling from Roger's sucker-punch, were hanging on.

But with the clock running down and Warsaw's chances hanging by a thread, Webb stunned the Shosalozans by pointing to the spot and Vastic rifled in to become the oldest scorer in Devo Championship history.

That means that Tales at TeaTime from Group A and West End from Group B have already qualified for the quarter finals.  Who will be joining them, I wonder.  And we have some great matches in Groups C and D over the next two days.

I hope to give you a bigger update next time, with Group Tables, and maybe some more pics.

'til next time............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on June 12, 2008, 03:09:42 PM
First, congratulations to West End!  :thumbsup:
Very good skills, but also a great spirit have lead Paroch's team to victory. However, as Paroch said, Capporth City is still one of the best teams and is a serious candidate to the final game.

As for the Shosaloza - Warsaw score... $%Grinno$% Of course this penalty will be discussed many times, not only the coach is shocked and says it was unfair, but also famous football specialist Zbigniew Boniek is sure about it. But I can only say: If Shosalozan team was really better for most of time, they should strike the second goal. In this case there wouldn't be any doubt, and even an unfair penalty wouldn't change the result.  After all, the only Shosaloza goal was scored after an offside  :D
Warsaw team was really good during the first 30 mins. But the match lasts 90 minutes, and the good team must be good all this time  :D

Sorry, no report from Shosaloza this time, there were some problems with transmission, but I will present it as soon as possible, maybe I will be able to show some photos  :)

At last I must say I'm very happy we can make our own competitions in SC4 and our site, here we can feel a really friendly and fair atmosphere which is completely different from the real "sport" - and it is a great advantage of our little world  :)

Great Kingly pictures Paul! I will comment it next time
Adam
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on June 13, 2008, 11:10:29 AM
Paul - 2 weeks gone is too long ... It took me hours just to catch up with Westend and the Devo'04 competion that you (and the other Nuts) spoil us with. Time does not permit to comment in depth on your update as the game between Nieuw Nederland and Trieste will start in half an hour in Newcastle's Mouse House in Balnavia...

But as I said on YouTube : the video is extraordinairy-superb-fantastic, and what other words can mean the same! And I am not only saying that because of that cute man showing in the tram pictures  ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on June 13, 2008, 10:10:41 PM
oooh no poor bat gotten whipped by a mere one point and also a tie has got to be a hard slap for both Warsaw Shosaloza!!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on June 14, 2008, 02:00:29 AM
Nice games and nice replies there! And at Monday my team will win the game against Warsaw (Austria). ;)

Looking forward to more, paroch...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on June 14, 2008, 03:18:01 PM
REPLIES:

Shaun
- Well Mallorca are a very strong side.  But yes, maybe egg chasing is more the thing in Watersford!

Joan
- Kingly has certainly been a journey - in more way than one  ;)  I think I've learnt a hell of a lot from it and have enjoyed it.  Watch this space for the next city.

Mrtnrln - Thanks for the link to that site - it will come in useful  And Imaginia have a real nail biting game next against Urland.  I wish you both good luck.

Bat - Thankyou for that.  And I hope your team have recovered from their shock defeat.  Glad to see you are confident ahead of your next match.

Dustin - Ah well in 2004 it The United Stats of SC4D surprised many people!  This time it was always going to be tougher.  Still you face Diggis' Watersford today, so anything could happen there.

Adam - Thanks for your congrats - I am still surprised now.  I wonder how far West End can go in Devo 08.  And I am happy you are enjoying Devo 08.  I agree that it's good we can have some fun here.  It's a great community.

Sebes
- Welcome back.  I hope you had a great holiday.  West End are missing the Oranje Army and hope they are having fun in Balnavia.  Your team is playing the best football and looking the strongest, but it is still early days.  If matches go to plan I think Nieuw Nederland travel to West End for the semi final - if it happens I am sure the city will be painted orange!
And thanks for the comments re Kingly.  I hope you approved of the top 12!  And the man on the tram??  Who is that   ;) ()what() :D

Pat - The match officials from New Castia are doing a good job, and giving a few controversial decisions!  Glad you're following the tournament.



UPDATE 47 - 14th June 2008

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Today is day eight of Devo 08.  Every team has now played two of their three group games and the groups are starting to take shape.  Before I update you with the group tables, we have had two matches in West End today, so lets get the match reports......

Over to New Merry Park in Wardour for

Condor Bay vs. Mallorca
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Mallorca booked a Devo 2008 quarter-final spot after David Villa's last-gasp goal sank Condor Bay and Watersford beat United Stats of SC4D.

Mallorca took the lead on 15 minutes with a clever move that ended with Fernando Torres poking home David Silva's cross.  But Condor Bay responded well and levelled when Zlatan Ibrahimovic met Fredrick Stoor's cross on 34 minutes.  Mallorca, who could have had a penalty when Johan Elmander barged Silva, were frustrated by Condor Bay keeper Andreas Isaksson before Villa's neat finish.

Mallorca will also top Group D and avoid the in-form Nieuw Nederland in the last eight.

As against Watersford, they again showed neat touches in the early stages with some quick passing helping them to outmanoeuvre the hard-working Condorians.  But Masochist's side were not as easy to break down and it took a move of real ingenuity to put Mallorca ahead.  A quickly taken Xavi corner resulted in the ball being fed short along the bye-line to Villa and, from his quick pass, Silva whipped the ball in to Torres who stretched to prod it home at the near post.

Condor Bay had created nothing up to that point yet they should really have been level seconds later.  While Condor Bay were pumping balls into the area they remained dangerous, however, and it was through that method that they equalised.  Mallorca were undoubtedly missing Carles Puyol, who had limped off injured, when Stoor fired in a cross from the right and Ibrahimovic had time to take the ball down and slot home.  The big striker's first touch was poor but he easily shook off a weak challenge from Sergio Ramos and although Iker Casillas got a hand to his shot, he could not keep it out.

Condor Bay looked as though they would hold on for the draw but striker Villa had other ideas, latching on to Joan Capdevila's pass in the 92nd minute and expertly sliding the ball into the corner of the net.

Condor Bay  1-2  Mallorca


And now over to Piccadilly Stadium in Piccadilly for

United Stats of SC4D vs. Watersford
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Watersford beat United Stats of SC4D to send the holders crashing out of Devo 08 and set up a deciding final game against Condor Bay for a place in the quarter-finals.

Konstatin Zyryanov scored the winner from close range in the 34th minute after Sergei Semak cashed in on The Stats' keeper Antonis Nikopolidis's mistake.  Angelos Charisteas wasted The Stats' best chances either side of the interval.

Roman Pavlyuchenko could have added to Watersford's tally but their win sent Mallorca into the last eight.
Condor Bay will be slight favourites to advance as they only need a draw in Piccadilly on Wednesday to go through from the group stages - but Watersford's confidence will be high after they rediscovered their form.

Tne United Stats of SC4D, in contrast, were unable to repeat the heroics that stunned Europe and resulted in them clinching the title in Portugal four years ago - paying a heavy price for a lack of cutting edge and attacking ambition.

United Stats of SC4D  0-1  Watersford


And so the groups currently stand as follows.  Remember each team has one game left to play, and the top two from each group progress to the quarter finals.


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GROUP A
[row]
[head]
TEAM[/head]
[head]
POINTS[/head]
[head]
GOAL DIFFERENCE[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Tales at TeaTime[/data]
[data]
6[/data]
[data]
+4[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Imaginia[/data]
[data]
3[/data]
[data]
-1[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Urland[/data]
[data]
3[/data]
[data]
-1[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Nullabor County[/data]
[data]
0[/data]
[data]
-2[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

Tales at TeaTime are definitely through to the quarter finals.  The winner of the Imaginia vs. Urland match will also go through.  If that match is a draw then it goes to penalties.




[tabular type=6]
GROUP B
[row]
[head]
TEAM[/head]
[head]
POINTS[/head]
[head]
GOAL DIFFERENCE[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]West End[/data]
[data]
6[/data]
[data]
+2[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Capporth City[/data]
[data]
3[/data]
[data]
+1[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Warsaw[/data]
[data]
1[/data]
[data]
-1[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Shosaloza[/data]
[data]
1[/data]
[data]
-2[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

West End have definitely qualified.  Any of the other three teams can also qualify, although Capporth City appear to be in the strongest position.




[tabular type=6]
GROUP C
[row]
[head]
TEAM[/head]
[head]
POINTS[/head]
[head]
GOAL DIFFERENCE[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Nieuw Nederland[/data]
[data]
6[/data]
[data]
+6[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Balnavia[/data]
[data]
2[/data]
[data]
0[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Trieste[/data]
[data]
1[/data]
[data]
-3[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Qumma[/data]
[data]
1[/data]
[data]
-3[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]

Nieuw Nederland are certain to qualify and are currently looking the best team in the tournament.  If Balnavia can beat Nieuw Nederland on Tuesday, they will also qualify.  But Trieste and Qumma play each other on Tuesday and the winner of that will progress if Balnavia fail to beat Nieuw Nederland.




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GROUP D
[row]
[head]
TEAM[/head]
[head]
POINTS[/head]
[head]
GOAL DIFFERENCE[/head]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Mallorca[/data]
[data]
6[/data]
[data]
+4[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Condor Bay[/data]
[data]
3[/data]
[data]
+1[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Watersford[/data]
[data]
3[/data]
[data]
-2[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]United Stats of SC4D[/data]
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0[/data]
[data]
-3[/data]
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Mallorca have definitely qualified.  The winner of Condor Bay vs Watersford on Wednesday will join them in the last eight.  If that match is a draw then Condor Bay will go through with the better goal difference.


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And to round out this update, I have a new member of West End's own double zero club to welcome......

On Monday 9th June, FrankU posted reply number 600 with a compliment to how he liked the West End representation of Amsterdam.  Now, I know Frank is from Holland, I know he is an architect and that he'd like to see more cows in the game.  So with those few pieces of information, West End hereby declares FrankU.....

47.03  OFFICIAL AR-COW-TECT OF WEST END
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This position in West End society carries a great responsibility to promote the well being of cows throughout West End and wherever possible to incorporate cows into buildings!


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And as a small teaser from the new quad I've started work on........

47.04  Welcome to Charing Cross:
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47.05  St Mary's Waterfront - Fan Zone:
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'til next time............... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on June 14, 2008, 05:52:03 PM
Paul looking real sweet there and its good to know that my Officials are doing a good job there and being so very well versed in being whats the word here ummm neutral and by the book too, but game smart...  Cant wait to see more!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on June 14, 2008, 10:01:22 PM
Congratulations to FrankU for hitting a "00" - the "prizes" are a tribute to your uniquely artistic style and attention to detail! :o

And that's quite an impressive Devo '08 update - even I can make some sense of it. I didn't realize the players held hands on the field...

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...but I've learned a lot from my involvement in this year's tournament.

Looks like Charing Cross
is next in line to be a big hit. I see some familiar lots mixed with a departure from your normal approach to development, so it will be exciting to see a full update!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on June 15, 2008, 12:51:07 AM
Some great work as always Paul, and a new quad to look forward to.

The Devo 08 updates are great, put the Balnavian press to shame  :(

The fan zone looks great by the way. That will be useful for sure.

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on June 15, 2008, 12:58:22 AM
Great match reports / "tables-reports" and a wonderful update! Nice pictures as well! The fan zone looks wonderful!

Looking forward to more in the 3rd round of Devo '08!
(hopefully with the right results at monday)


btw, my 5150th post (here)!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on June 15, 2008, 12:32:29 PM
Holy cow - just what we needed - an ar-cow-tect. What a great tribute to FrankU and dutch dairy.

Charing Cross will be a I'll-knock-you-of-your-feet-town, for sure! The fan zone is excellent - but a bit too small for the Orange Legion.... :P
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on June 15, 2008, 05:35:07 PM
Well, it looks like the defending champions put up a rather putrid display at his tournament, eh, Paul? Brutal.

Excellent work with the coverage and the tables for the standings--you are certainly doing a magnificent job putting everything together, my friend! And on top of that, you're still showing us great stuff from WEST END, too!

Keep it up, my friend, it's always great to stop by here!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on June 16, 2008, 03:36:36 PM
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Hi all West End and Devo 08 followers.  I've been out all evening, so have not had the chance to produce a proper update - apologies.  Also I will give full replies in the next update  :)

But I could not let the final matches of Groups A and B pass without at least giving you the scores.

So yesterday in Balnavia we had two matches - one great game and one ALL TIME CLASSIC:

Nullabor County  2-0  Tales at TeaTime
       With the pressure off and already with no chance of progressing Nullabor delivered their first win of the tournament.  Congratulations go to ManuelR's team for their spirit, but it was a case of too little, too late. The Tea Cat's team win the group and progress to the last eight.

Imaginia  2-3  Urland

       Mrtlrln's team was 2-0 up with 25 minutes to play but collapsed and let Nardo's team back in with one of the greatest comebacks in Devo history to snatch a 3-2 victory in the 92nd minute!  Urland progress to the quarter finals and Imaginia have to go home.

And today in West End....first at the New Baastenveld Stadium in Kingly:

Warsaw  0-1  Capporth City
       Warsaw fought valiantly, but despite a few half chances never really looked like upsetting the Capporthians.  I watched this game in the pub where a couple of RL Germans supported their team with much voice and passion.  Ans Michael Ballack's power driver of a free kick in the 49th minute was enough to secure the win and take them into the next round. Congratualtions to Bat, and a sad farewell to Alex/Warszawa's team.  But hopefully you'll stick around to provide support to the remaining teams.

And over at Saint Mary's Stadium in Charing Cross:

Shosaloza  0-1  West End

      West End became the onle team so far to play three and win three.  This was an efficient victory and whilst they were comfortable winners on the night, you can't help but have a nagging feeling that they cannot go all the way in this tournament.  Ennedi's team could not be faulted for their effort but they lacked a cutting edge to give them the chance of victory that they needed to have any chance of progressing

And so, from groups A and B, the quarter finals line up as follows:

Thursday 19th in Balnavia:  Tales at TeaTime  vs  Capporth City

Friday 20th in West End:    West End  vs  Urland

I am out discussing tactics with another Devo 08 manager tomorrow evening and hope to provide a proper update here on Wednesday after Group C in Balnavia and Group D in West End complete their group games.

ImaginiaNullabor CountyWarsaw and Shosaloza, it has been fun having you in Devo 08.  Your chance of lifting the trophy has gone, but please continue to visit West End and Balnavia and give support to your fellow MD'ers and help make Devo 08 a fun and successful event.


And as a continued small teaser, here is a picture from the Fans Zone in Bilic Park, Charing Cross where WestEnders watched today's match....

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'til next time............ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on June 17, 2008, 02:14:33 AM
Really good match reports there, paroch! Also fantastic picture of that fan zone! Nice park around it!
Looking forward to more...
(and to the quarter final with hopefully again with the right results at Thursday)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on June 17, 2008, 04:53:10 AM
 ()sad() Imaginia couldn't make it to the 2nd round. In that case: "Hup Holland!"
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on June 18, 2008, 02:18:14 PM
REPLIES:

Pat:  Thanks Pat - I'm glad New Castia could play a part in Devo 08.

Joan:  LOL, trust you to spot that pic!  And the Sweden/Condor Bay player in the pic plays for my own beloved West Ham Utd in RL!  As for the full update from Charing Cross, that may take a while to put together.

Dave:  Long time no see here in West End.  And as for update speed - well time zones are working more in my favour than yours  ;)

Bat:  Thanks my friend and good luck for your next match - should be a real good game.

Sebes:  Hehehe, well if Nieuwe Nederland win their next match then I think their semi final would be in West End, so we'll be sure to build a bigger fans zone.

Dustin:  Yeah, the defending champs have not done so well, but I'm sure they'll put up a fight in their last match.  And of course, I forgot to say THANK YOU publicly for the tables which you kindly provided.

Mrtnrln
:  That was painful to watch.  A two goal lead with 25 minutes to play and to lose 3-2 - ouch!  And yes, Hup Holland, I agree!


UPDATE 48:  18th June 2008


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It's the final two matches from Group D today, so let's go over to Wardour's New Merry Park for:

United Stats of SC4D  vs.  Mallorca
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Despite going a goal ahead, Dustin's men become the only team at Devo 08 to lose all three games.  Luckily for all of us here at Devotions, whilst his skills as a football coach have to be questions, his skills as the official SC4D statistician remain undoubted.  And as for Jeronij's impressive Mallorca side, it is three wins from three games, so along with West End and Nieuw Nederland they are looking very strong.

48.01  Match pics:
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And finally over to the Piccadully Stadium for:

Watersford  vs.  Condor Bay
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I have to admit that I thought Masochist's Condor Bay would be too experienced for Watersford and take the prize here.  But right from the start the energy and crisp passing from Diggis's team was very slick and the first goal was a real beauty.  Condor Bay never really troubled Watersford and when the second goal went in it really was game over.  So Diggis's side had a slow start to the tournament but have picked up as the matches have progressed.  Could they cause an upset when they face Nieuwe Nederland over in Balnavia on Saturday?

48.02  Match pics:
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And the final Group Tables are:



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GROUP A
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[data]Tales at TeaTime[/data]
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6[/data]
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[data]Urland[/data]
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6[/data]
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0[/data]
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[data]Imaginia[/data]
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3[/data]
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-2[/data]
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[data]Nullabor County[/data]
[data]
3[/data]
[data]
0[/data]
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GROUP B
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TEAM[/head]
[head]
POINTS[/head]
[head]
GOAL DIFFERENCE[/head]
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[data]West End[/data]
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9[/data]
[data]
+3[/data]
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[data]Capporth City[/data]
[data]
6[/data]
[data]
+2[/data]
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[data]Warsaw[/data]
[data]
1[/data]
[data]
-2[/data]
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[data]Shosaloza[/data]
[data]
1[/data]
[data]
-3[/data]
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GROUP C
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POINTS[/head]
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GOAL DIFFERENCE[/head]
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[data]Nieuw Nederland[/data]
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9[/data]
[data]
+8[/data]
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[data]Qumma[/data]
[data]
4[/data]
[data]
-1[/data]
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[data]Balnavia[/data]
[data]
2[/data]
[data]
-2[/data]
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[data]Trieste[/data]
[data]
1[/data]
[data]
-5[/data]
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GROUP D
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[head]
TEAM[/head]
[head]
POINTS[/head]
[head]
GOAL DIFFERENCE[/head]
[/row]
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[data]Mallorca[/data]
[data]
9[/data]
[data]
+5[/data]
[/row]
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[data]Watersford[/data]
[data]
6[/data]
[data]
0[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]Condor Bay[/data]
[data]
3[/data]
[data]
-1[/data]
[/row]
[row]
[data]United Stats of SC4D[/data]
[data]
0[/data]
[data]
-4[/data]
[/row]
[/tabular]


So we must say goodbye to Balnavia, Trieste, Condor Bay and The United Stats of SC4D.  Thank you all for taking part, I hope you've had some fun out of it.  Of course, Dave still has some work to do and hopefully the rest of you will still pop in to give your support.

And so the quarter finals line up like this:

QF1  Thursday at The Riley Morris Stadium in Gladstone, Balnavia     
Tales at TeaTime  vs.  Capporth City

QF2  Friday at the New Baastenveld Stadium in Kingly, West End
West End  vs.  Urland
QF3  Saturday at Necastle Football Ground in Balnavia
Nieuwe Nederland  vs.  Watersford

QF4  Sunday at Saint Mary's Stadium, Charing Cross, West End
Mallorca  vs.  Qumma
The winners of QF1 and QF2 meet in the semi finals at Gladstone on Wednesday 25th
And the Winners of QF3 and QF 4 meet in their semi final on Thursday 26th in Piccadilly.

West End looks forward to welcoming Urland and also our old friends Qumma who will have fond memories of the last time one of their teams played in West End.

And for the teams leaving West End to play in Balnavia - Capporth City and Watersford - good luck, may the West End force be with you  :D

And now for some more teasers from Charing Cross.  I'm struggling to pull together a proper update yet, so here are some random shots from across this new quad........

48.03  Suburbs:
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48.04  Commercial Avenues:
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48.05  High Rise Buildings:
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48.06  Waterfront Developments:
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48.07  Villages:
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48.08  Pedestrianised Commercial Zones:
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48.09  Transport hubs:
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48.10  Farms and TPW Bridges:
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48.11  TPW/Maxis Water Transitions:
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Charing Cross is going to have a bit of everything!

'til next time............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on June 18, 2008, 02:38:12 PM
Rats,  now I have to face Niewe Nederland.  I was fearing that.  They have looked especially impressive, but I have a few tricks up my sleeves....  Unfortunatly I'm in a t-shirt so much space for them.  :D

Great start to Charing Cross, will be interesting to see how you handle having a more diverse plugins folder.  ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on June 18, 2008, 07:50:13 PM
Great competition so far. I like the way you've been presenting it too. I'm looking forward to the formal update and the upcoming games, but the pics you have shown so far are great already. Can't wait to see them in a bit more detail later. Take it easy and best of luck in the upcoming round.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Masochist on June 18, 2008, 08:24:11 PM
Awww...oh, well, at least we were in it (though I can't really say we went out with a fight :-[)...

paroch, thank you for inviting me into the tourney!  It's the first event I've ever done with multiple MD's/CJ's since I joined the SC4 community back in Dec. '05.  It was really something special! 

I'll keep watching and rooting for for the other teams...I'm thinking Mallorca all the way :thumbsup:!

As for your latest update, I love that farms picture!  It's amazingly realistic in my eyes the way the avenue subtly crosses the water, and the way all the big trailer trucks use the tiny road...I live down a road like that.  Trust me, its a hazard to your health not to look both ways when leaving for town :P!

The commercial avenue also looks really nice...I'd love to take a walk down there and enjoy the trees (I don't know why, but the barren trees in SC4 can sometimes add more life to the game than the evergreens and such).  If I can make a suggestion, for picture 48.11, I'd add a bit more flora or rocks to help hide the transition a bit...it's rather blatant as it is now.

Anyways...great update :thumbsup:!  If I'm not mistaken, this is my first or second comment in here...hopefully I can do something about that after all the support you give me :thumbsup:!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on June 18, 2008, 09:50:35 PM
OK, what gives?! I keep seeing "non-updates" that look 10 times better than any of my "real" updates ever did! :D

Charing Cross is looking great, Paul.
Love the suburbs with just enough green space to open things up a bit. Brings to mind a RL vs game issue I've been thinking about, especially after watching Ennedi deal with forestation. Your average yard simply doesn't have nearly as many trees as in-game yards, but making them au naturale doesn't look right either. For example, my lot is 300' wide by 700' deep (91.5m x 214.0m) and has five huge red oak trees on it - that's it! It's beautiful but re-creating in game wouldn't look right at all IMO.

Anyway, I digress! I see you're using GLR again, and you're doing a good job of working it into its surroundings (unless it's the other way around!). 48.09 Transport hubs looks great, and it's sharing space with a freight line. And of course, the urban areas are always a treat to look at, so I hope to see more of the same.

Later...
Joan

P.S. Best of luck to all the QF teams. All are my favorites so I guess it's just as well that I can't watch the games!  ;)

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on June 18, 2008, 11:48:49 PM
Nice work on the match reports there! Also great new teasers!
Looking forward to more...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on June 19, 2008, 03:21:03 AM
Hello Paul ,

I see that you always made splendid update the last is extraordinary !
I like much the terminus of the tram with the station, it is very successful !
For the preceding update, excuse me not to have noticed them earlier, but it really are very successful .

I liked much the surmounted park of the marina with this splendid screen (festival of the music)  $%Grinno$%

I await with impatient your next update my friend and to re-examine your beautiful work !




As regards the competition I am disappointed of my team but I will look at the other teams with my more great attention.
one only team will go until the end, and I wish good courage and good luck with all !

Paul
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: penguin007 on June 19, 2008, 05:58:16 AM
Your new area looks excellent so far and I like your use of the plopable water and also the suburbs look great

Cant wait to see the full update

Will
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nardo69 on June 19, 2008, 02:35:59 PM
Nice Update here (and no unnecessary level crossings ... ;)  :D )

Small detail, in 48.03 you might redo that curb between the railway station and the roundabout. (Big Nardo is watching you! ;)  :D )

I do love that transport hub, and that underwater cliff between maxis and ploppable water is something I saw somewhere IRL

About football, well, the Baklava stocks has been filled up so that the guys don't have to fight about IF they win.

And then ... Urland - Capporth (Don't do something wrong, bat!)

This will be hard for me ...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on June 19, 2008, 03:31:03 PM
Charing Cross is turning into another West End jewel... the transporthub shown in 48.09 is absolutely very realistic, and very well laid out. The contrast with pictures 48.10&11 could not be bigger, but they have the same level of perfecty (is that a word??)

Quote from: Diggis on June 18, 2008, 02:38:12 PM
Unfortunatly I'm in a t-shirt
Be warned: coaches in t-shirt are eaten by the orange lion Diggis  ;)

It's a wise decission to expand the fanzone already Paul - the legion will first finish some business in New Castle, and than be heading for West End. Prepare for this: (link) (http://www.ad.nl/video/2380347/Nog_ns_Oranje_walst_over_Bern.html) (Dutch spoken but the video speaks for itself...)

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nardo69 on June 20, 2008, 02:56:56 PM
Seems to be my special baklava diet pays off  :satisfied:

Only thing that's left to do is explaining them that it is NOT NECESSARY and rather dangerous in the long run to start scoring after you caught your first goal(s) ...  &mmm

That goal was, well, 999 out of 1000 times you're out, this was the 1000 times ...!  ()stsfd()

Baklava ratio doubled until the semi final!  ;)  :D
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on June 20, 2008, 03:01:26 PM
Hey Bernhard,

You know, that was painful to watch  &cry2

The update is not ready yet and my match report will be posted tomorrow.  When West End scored with just 90 seconds remaining you can imagine my reaction.  And yes, Urland kept believing til the end, so full conrgratulations to coach Nardo and his team.

And for anyone who has not seen the result:

West End 1-1 Urland (Urland win 3-1 on penalties).

I hear a rumour that Baklava has been outlawed across West End from this evening ;)

'til next time..........&cry2 &cry2 &cry2
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on June 20, 2008, 03:12:02 PM
Paul and Bernhard - it was a great match, congratulations to both!  :thumbsup:

Urland team goes to the semifinal thanks to their great spirit  &apls

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But West End boys were fantastic too! Don't worry Paul, our girl fans from Shosaloza are still in West End and they are great fans of your team! :D

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PS. I'm very curious of Charing Cross, your teasers look very nice! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warszawa on June 22, 2008, 03:49:02 AM
Hey Paul, hope everything has been well since I was away. Glad to hear that Warsaw is still in the game :)

I love the Commercial Avenue and high-rise buildings pictures; they bring out the realism of the game. Is it possible if your could give me a link for the tram lines you use? I've had a search at SimTropolis and can't seem to actually find the one that you use. Thanks very much.

I will see you later mate, off to a fete now.

Alex
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on June 22, 2008, 05:55:04 AM
Unfortunately Coach Diggis was wearing long sleeves - and what a tricks he had hidden in there. He brought Dynamite into the stadium and blew up the dreams of the Orange Lion!
 
The Nieuw Nederland fans are realizing that they will not be travelling to West End and that the Orange Legion will not take over West-End fanzones.. The cup will not travel with the to Nieuw Nederland this year - our little party is over...

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Of course we will still follow the result of the other teams. We wonder what tricks coach Diggis still has not yet revealed; how many Baklava coach Nardo has ordered to ensure that his team makes kebab of coach Bat's men, who in exchange, are ready to make Hackfleisch of the Urlandish guys.

Coach Jeronij be warned: you're the only poule winner still in the tournament - don't let coach Nedalezz turn Devo'08 into the tournament of "second placers"!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on June 22, 2008, 02:55:35 PM
First up - sorry for not posting this reply sooner.  Unfortunately not had the time to pull an update and replies together before - so now I can give you replies, all the Quarter Final action plus an update!

REPLIES:

Shaun:  Well, as Sebes pointed out I think you had the long sleeve shirt on for the match!  And yes, the large plugins folder is throwing up some interesting combos  ;)

Matt
:  Thanks.  I'm glad you've been enjoying the tournie so far.  It does add a different dimension to watching the RL matches - can't stop myself thinking of the MDs involved!  And hopefully you'll like the new pics from Charing Cross.

Isaac:  Welcome to West End.  I keep a track of who pops in here and yes, it's your first visit - so a big WELCOME.  I'm glad you've enjoyed taking part in Devo 08.  It's the second tournie West End has been involved in hosting and I suspect I'll do something else in the future!  As for Mallorca - well as I type this they are due to face Qumma for a place in the Semis - so who knows - it's funny I want Spain to win but Qumma is my all time favourite MD, plus Fursan FC (from Qumma) won the first tournie, so I have mixed emotions.  Not that I have anything against Mallorcs (it is very impressive after all) but West End and Qumma have ties!!  BTW, you know I like Condor Bay loads, so hopefully West End and Condor Bay will have some more interaction somewhere down the line.
Anyways, I'm rambling now!  Thanks for your comments, I'm pleased you liked the pics and yes, I have re-worked the TPW/Maxis transition but I cannot get it just how I want it.

Joan:  Haha, yes a non-update  :D .  Well I've spent a bit of time in Charing Cross (although as I type have not taken the pics yet!) so I hope you like the proper update.  And wow, that is some "yard" you have there.  I know what you mean though - I guess it's a case of getting the texture of it right.  I'll have to think about lotting up some houses with BIG gardens.  As for the GLR, this time it has a specific purpose.  It runs from the mainline railway station over to the St Mary's Stadium Complex.  And makes a few stops en-route.

Bat
:  Thanks as always, and congrats on reaching the Semi Final, I liked your pic in your MD to celebrate.

Paul
:  Good to see you here and thank you for your kind words.  And it's a shame Trieste did not do better at Devo 08 - maybe next time!

Will:  Thanks for your comment - hopefully you'll like the full update.  I've only just spotted your own, new MD - so I will be over soon to look more fully and comment.

Bernhard
:  I'm glad you noticed the lack of badly placed crossings!  As for 48.03, I'm not sure what you mean by the "curb" - feel free to post a picture with arrows or whatever to describe what you mean.  And as for the football - that was hard for me to believe.  West End were so close but the heart of coach Nardo and the Urland players did not stop believing, so I have to say congratulations.  I know it will be tough for you to watch the next game, a German living in Trukey, with Turkey representing Urland!!  I guess you can't lose.

Sebes:  I'm pleased you like Charing Cross - not sure about a jewel, but I am liking it so far!  And as for the football - it was good to see the Oranje Army in such good spirits before the game against Watersford over in Balnavia.  I have met Shaun, and feel I know you so it was always going to be tough, but I think you know, with no England in the Euros, Holland and Spain were my choices of heart.
Still, it was a good game and tough for the Nieuwe Nederland team to have a bad game on that day.  I am sure there will be a future Devo event and NN will be there.  And those pics you post - any real football fan knows exactly how they feel.  Supporting both West Ham and England, I know that feeling better than most  :'(

Adam:  Great pics, thanks for posting them.  And the Shosazolan's are hopefully going to stay to watch the final.  They are always welcome in West End.  And here is more of Charing Cross.

Alex
:  Ah, well Warsaw are now gone, so your fans must now follow another team.  It has been a pleasure having Warsaw fans here in West End.  Feel free to stay a while longer!  And the tram lines are part of the NAM - there is a link on the front page of the SC4D site.  But I'll dig our the link and PM you.


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Well, now the four Quarter Finals are done, so lets have a round up of the results.............


Thursday 19th - Riley Morris Stadium, Gladstone, Balnavia
Tales at TeaTime  vs.  Capporth City
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Capporth City booked their place in the semi-finals of Devo 08 by seeing off a below-par Tales at TeaTime side in Gladstone.

Bastian Schweinsteiger sidefooted in the first goal
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and his free-kick created the second for the head of Miroslav Klose.
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Nuno Gomes finished from close range to give Derry's men hope
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but they failed to defend another Schweinsteiger free-kick and Michael Ballack headed the third.

Tales at TeaTime substitute Helder Postiga pulled one back in the dying stages but there was to be no grandstand finish.

Tales at TeaTime had looked so impressive in qualifying for the knockout stages but Derry's reign as coach ended in disappointing fashion.

Derry, who takes over as Chelsea boss next month, had suggested their lack of height might be exposed by a physically superior Capporth side.
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But it was a failure to defend set-pieces that proved their downfall.

In contrast, Capporth Cith gave an accomplished display despite suspended coach Bat having to watch the game from the stands.

Tales at TeaTime  2-3  Capporth City



Friday 20th - New Baastenveld Stadium, Kingly, West End
West End  vs.  Urland

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West End fans in the fountains of Kingly before the game.

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Urland fans enjoy a traditional kebab served in one of the many kebab houses in Kingly.  (Baklava is now only served under the counter).

Urland will meet Capporth City in the Devo 08 semi-final after beating West End 3-1 on penalties after a dramatic extra-time finale in Kingly.

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- only for Urland's Semih Senturk to volley the equaliser with the last kick of the game.
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Arda Turan, Semih and Hamit Altintop scored in the shoot-out for Urland.

Luke Meldrew, Ivan Rakitic missed for West End and Urland keeper Rustu saved the deciding kick from Mladen Petric.
It was astonishing finish to a dreadful game, especially for Urland keeper Rustu, who made an awful error that looked to have given West End victory before his free-kick set up Semih for the leveller as referee Roberto Rosetti from New Castia prepared to blow the final whistle.

West End coach Paroch, who had celebrated what he thought was a famous victory with his players only seconds earlier, could not lift his deflated players and they looked a beaten side even before the penalty shoot-out.

Urland, in contrast grasped the lifeline and Devo 08's great survivors and late show specialists were through again, having led matches for only nine minutes in the entire tournament.

West End looked devastated as the penalty shoot-out started, and they got off to the worst possible start when Meldrew placed his kick wide.

Arda, Semih and Hamit scored convincingly for Urland, but only Serna scored for West End with Rakitic missing and Rustu - the most relieved man in the stadium after his late mistake - saving from Petric.
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West End  1-1  Urland  (1-3 on penalties)





Saturday 21st - Newcastle Football Ground, Newcastle, Balnavia
Nieuwe Nederland  vs.  Watersford

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Watersford's Andrei Arshavin was the architect as they dumped Nieuwe Nederland out of Devo 08 after extra time.

Watersford took the lead in normal time when Roman Pavlyuchenko volleyed home
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only for Ruud van Nistelrooy to head in an 86th-minute leveller for the Nieuwe Dutch.
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But the brilliant Arshavin tormented Sebes' side throughout and he crossed for Dmitri Torbinski to prod home.

Arshavin then sealed a semi-final spot in the 116th minute as he ran through and fired low past Edwin van der Sar.
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Watersford almost had to play with 10 men in extra time after Denis Kolodin was sent off by New Castia official, Lubos Michel in stoppage time, only for the referee to reverse his decision after a chat with one of his assistants.
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So despite looking the best team at Devo 08, Sebes and his team return home, empty handed.

Nieuwe Nederland  1-3  Watersford





Sunday 22nd - Saint Mary's Stadium, Charing Cross, West End
Mallorca  vs.  Qumma

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Mallorca beat Qumma 4-2 on penalties to reach the semi-finals of Devo 08 after a dour goalless draw in Charing Cross.

Marcos Senna came closest in normal time when Qumma keeper Gianluigi Buffon fumbled his shot on to a post.
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Mallorca keeper Iker Casillas was the hero in the shoot-out, saving from Daniele de Rossi and Antonio di Natale.

Daniel Guiza saw his spot-kick saved by Buffon, but Charing Corss Saint's Cesc Fabregas slid home the crucial penalty in his home stadium to set up a last four clash with Watersford.

Mallorca  0-0  Qumma  (4-2 on penalties)



So the Semi Finals line up like this...........

Wednesday 25th:  Capporth City  vs.  Urland - Balnavia

Thursday 26th:  Watersford  vs.  Mallorca - Piccadilly Stadium, Piccadilly, West End

Which means three of the teams who played their group games in West End make the semis.  Good luck to all teams left in - please feel free to post your thoughts, your pictures and your hopes here!






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And now to the Charing Cross update..............

Charing Cross is a medium sized town on the banks of the River Dinnium - the main river that flows through West End.  In fact, most of the large built up areas in West End are either close to the river, or the coast.

So far, Charing Cross has a population of 79,300, although this will increase and is likely to peak at about 92,000.

The main part of Charing Cross lies to the south of the Dinnium, and other key parts of Charing Cross that have already been developed are Saint Mary's and Thistle Point.  Charing Cross sits close by to Kingly, the city with a large Dutch population and sometimes compared to Amsterdam.  In the other direction is Wardour and people from Charing Cross commute to both cities to work.

Charing Cross is surrounded by a lot of farmland, but its main source of employment is the commercial sector, with 30,000 jobs at present.  Most of these are in shops and offices.

Here's a region overview to give you an idea of where Charing Cross is located:

49.01  Region Overview:
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The yellow dots show three of the stadia hosting Devo 08.  The other one (Piccadilly) is a long way to the east.

Now you know where Charing Cross is, lets zoom in a bit....

49.02  Charing Cross (west):
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The city centre is pretty much in the middle of the picture, running parallel with the river.  In the bottom right is Thistle Point, and the stadium is in Saint Mary's.  You can see that there is still room for some development in Charing Cross - but it will not go all the way to the river, that will be left for some industrials and also a nature reserve.


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Over on the north side of the river, you have the Saint Mary's peninsular, which is home to the stadium complex, the marina and much commercial activity.  It is one of the most sought after places to live in Charing Cross.


In this update we are going to focus on Saint Mary's.  This is where the stadium the hosted tonight's Mallorca versus Qumma match, so it seems appropriate to start there.

49.04  Saint Mary's Peninsular 1:
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You can see a ferry heading into St Mary's Marina.  Many fans head to the stadium this way.  You can also see St Mary's Island at the top of the picture, but we'll save that for another day.  From up here, you can also imagine the views that you can get from the towers on Thistle Point.


49.05  Saint Mary's Peninsular 2:
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Here you can see what a great Bat the stadium is.  It is Saint Mary's Stadium, in Southampton, England, home to the RL Southampton.  Here in West End it is home to Charing Cross Saints.  Down in the bottom right of this picture is Silver Dock - let's take a closer look.


49.06  Silver Dock:
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Ferries from Silver Dock head to Thistle Point and Charing Cross Marina.


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The apartments on either side of the Tissier Walk are the ones where many people want to live.  The Tissier Walk is a popular place to hang out on a sunny day, where people stroll along there down to the riverside.


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As well as the two ferry terminals, there is also the tram.  Here you can see a tram coming into the station.  There are also four parking garages which are part of Caspervg's great modular parking set - nice one Casper!  And there is the NUTs Market where they were doing a roaring trade in Qumma and Mallorca shirts and scarves today!

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And this is where those not fortunate enough to get a ticket watched the match.


49.10  Saint Mary's Marina - Ferry Dock:
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Here's a ferry just about to leave for Charing Cross Marina. 


49.11  Saint Mary's Marina - Shops:
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This place is popular regardless of whether there is a match on!  It's the first time I've used the boats in the marina, maybe I squashed them in against that sea wall a bit!


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Here is the main entrance to the stadium.  The park tends to get full of fans sitting in the sun, drinking beer.  You also get a nice view of the parking area, plus the bus station.


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The match goes to extra time, then penalties.  Those over in the fans zone can't bear the tension.


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And that is it, the match is over.  Charing Cross hosted four matches during Devo 08, and now it's time for the city to get back to normal.  The fans leave.  Qumma fans head to the airport and Mallorca fans now try to get tickets for the Semi Final against Diggis's Watersford in Piccadilly on Thursday.  That's got the potential to be a great game, Watersford are starting to play well, so anything could happen.

I also guess I need to develop around Piccadilly Stadium a bit!

In the next update, we'll have a look over at Thistle Point.

'til next time............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on June 22, 2008, 04:22:27 PM
Ahh there is celebration in Watersford tonight.  Bitter sweet for the me, being mostly Dutch and all, but if they don't want me as manager they'll regret it.  :D  And Sebes, I changed into one of those pirate shirts with the big flowy sleeves so I could hide extra players up there.  :D
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: FrankU on June 23, 2008, 04:51:13 AM
Looks great!
What more can be said?
&apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on June 23, 2008, 07:21:31 AM
Very good area there around that stadium, paroch! Also wonderful pictures of it!
And very good match reports! Looking forward to more...
(also after the semi-finals, hopefully with the right result(s))
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on June 23, 2008, 11:10:14 AM
Hard to believe Devo '08 will be history soon, but it has been an exciting adventure which will be long remembered around these parts. And I don't have to understand the reports to know they were created with the light side of competition in mind! ;)

Love the overviews showing Charing Cross' position in the great scheme of things. And you certainly chose a spectacular setting for Saint Mary's Stadium. A ferry ride would make an evening's sporting event that much more exciting! The surrounding areas are very well done, too – the markets, shops, parks and all the rest fit perfectly in the stadium environment.

And of course, the night shots are awesome! I hated to see Kingly fade into the sunset, but it looks like Charing Cross is going to be just as good in its own way. :thumbsup:

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on June 23, 2008, 11:37:41 AM
 :'( The Netherlands lost!

Great update, Paroch!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on June 23, 2008, 01:11:45 PM
I love your update Paroch - and of course your kind words. I know that what you mean indeed....

Looking forward to the next update of the semifinals... let's see if Great Coach Diggis has something nice hidden in his sleeves....  ;)

Cheers.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on June 23, 2008, 04:30:40 PM
When the pics are done by one of the masters around here, how can I not like them? Speaking of which, the ones form this update are great too. You use open space and parks really well, particularly around the stadium. That, coupled with the little details of each area lets you see something new each time. Tissier Walk (49.07) is a great example of it. It's almost hidden by the stadium, but a closer look shows off the detail that went into the walk (including the little plaza things where the walk meets the roads). Only a few more games to go, it'll be interesting to see who wins.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nardo69 on June 24, 2008, 11:32:06 AM
Hi Paul!

Yes, tomorrow's match will be really tough for me as mayor of Urland and a German in Turkish exile at the same moment. But that's soccer ...
Nice stadium at the peninsula - including a decent public transport connection!  :) That public viewing area is a nice touch, too ..

Take care my friend - we will meet after the semi finals (have to do a business trip tomorrow ...)

Bernhard  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on June 26, 2008, 01:48:08 PM
REPLIES:

Shaun:  Ahaaaagh, the pirate shirt - I knew there must have been a secret weapon!

FrankU:  Thanks.  Did you like your double zero award?

Bat:  Good to see you here as always - and congrats on reaching the final.

Joan:  Yes, Devo has been fun.  As I write these replies, just two matches left and only three teams still in the competition - It's getting to the exciting part!  And thanks for the encouragement re Charing Cross.  As I put the overview shot and night shot in I thought you may like them.

Mrtnrln:  I think many people (including me) were surprised and a bit sad to see the Dutch lose.  And thanks for your visit and comment.

Sebes
:  I'm glad you liked the update and yes, I wonder how big Diggis's shirt will be this evening!

Matt:  Hey, wow - what a compliment.  I don't consider myself one of the "masters" but compliments like that are ALWAYS accepted  ;) !  I'm glad you like the update and funnily enough on Tissier Walk, there should be statues on the plinths in the park but I have a missing dependency and cannot find the statue!  And Geoffhaw kindly made the plaza's with West End flags for me.

Bernhard
:  Ah, the match - the wrong result for Urland part of you, but the right result for the German part of you!  Bad luck, and congratulations at the same time!!  And that peninsular was fun to create, so I'm pleased you like it.



UPDATE 50:  26th June 2008


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It's semi final time in Devo 08.  Only four teams are left.  Yesterday over in Balnavia was the first semi-final between:

Capporth City  vs.  Urland

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Philipp Lahm's last-minute winner sent Capporth City into the Devo 08 final and sank a desperately unlucky Urland.

Lahm stole in on Thomas Hitzlsperger's pass to beat Rustu Recber and give the Capporthians victory after a thriller in which Urland were the better side.

Ugur Boral scrambled Nardo's team ahead after 22 minutes, but Bastian Schweinsteiger equalised quickly from close range.

Miroslav Klose headed Bat's team in front after 79 minutes, but Semih Senturk levelled before Lahm's late strike.

Capporth City barely deserved the victory, but once again they have reached a major final despite being unconvincing, where they will face either Watersford or Mallorca in Piccadilly on Sunday.

Ravaged by injuries and suspension, Urland defied all expectations to produce an outstanding performance full of grit, desire and no little quality and they should have been well in front by half-time.  As it was, the Baklava was not enough and now they return home whilst Bat's men prepare for the biggest game in their careers.

Capporth City  3-2  Urland




And earlier this evening at the Piccadilly Stadium in Piccadilly:

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Watersford  vs.  Mallorca

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Mallorca produced a superb display to cruise past Watersford and set up a Devo 08 final against Capporth City on Sunday.

Mallorca's Cesc Fabregas was the driving force behind the win after coming on as substitute for injured David Villa.

Xavi turned home Andres Iniesta's cross after 50 minutes
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and substitute Daniel Guiza converted a superb pass from Fabregas with 17 minutes left.
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Fabregas played in David Silva for a simple third after 82 minutes as a disappointing Watersford ended well beaten.
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Coach Diggis was seen on the touchline in a T-Shirt, it appears he had no more sleeves to produce his tricks from.


Watersford  0-3  Mallorca

So there you have it - a comfortable victory for Mallorca to set up a mouth-watering final on Sunday in Piccadilly.....

Capporth City  vs.  Mallorca




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And now back to Charing Cross for some pictures.  Last time we looked at St. Mary's.  The area on the peninsular.  Well today we'll hop south over the River Dinnium to Thistle Point.  Just to remind you of the lay out of the eastern half of Charing Cross:

50.01  Overview:
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You can see that Thistle Point is mainly a new residential development with many high towers.  The main centre of Charing Cross (which is to the north west of Thistle Point), was getting very overcrowded and there was not much scope for further development.  Much of the area around the city centre is low density family housing - but that real estate is quote expensive.  None of the developers could buy large enough pieces of land near the centre to make a viable new development.

So, they looked a little further out of the centre and came up with Thistle Point as the ideal location.  There is a main avenue that joins the centre and Thistle Point and also a new Ferry Terminal was built which serves both Silver Dock in St Mary's as well as Charing Cross's central marina.

So let's have a look at what the developers came up with.

50.02  Thistle Point:
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Ten different developers were awarded sites on Thistle Point and each had their own designs. 
To the south of the Point is a large industrial zone made up mainly of many small micro-businesses. 
At the centre/bottom of the picture is the hospital and high school.  These are on the banks of the river and are very reaceful places to recover or learn.

Let's take a closer look at the development on the Point.


50.03  View from the east:
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On the left is the Punkthaus Blocks.  Two matching towers that are modern and appeal to young professionals.
In the centre is the Ganour Apartments, which are not as expensive and tend to be home to people with families and not very well paid jobs.  The play areas are popular with these families.
And on the right, with the green roof is the Bryant Tower.  Again, popular with families but generally those with a bit more cash.


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In the centre/bottom of the pic are the Waldorff Apartments.  These were designed as high wealth apartments but have not been popular and have fallen into dis-repair already.  The developer is planning on refurbishing them and re-markerting them early next year.


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And here you can see most of the development, including the grey Central Tower (low wealth), blue Claude Tower, brown/green Bricket Tower and the Moscow Red Tower.

A new sport in West End has emerged since the banning of Baklava, following West End's defeat by Urland in Devo 08 on penalties.  And this is Baklava Splatting.  People drop baklava from the top of a tall building and try to make the biggest splat.  Central Tower has become the most popular building for this.


50.06  Thistle Dock:
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A ferry terminal that many of the Thistle Point residents use to travel to work, wither over in St Mary's or to Charing Cross Marina.  I must give credit to Tooheys, as these ferry terminals in Charing Cross are very much based on his style of ferry dock development.


50.07  Wider view from the north:
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Here you can see the whole development plus Thistle Bay and the Thistle Stream.


50.08  Thistle Stream:
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This small stream is a very popular place to stroll for a bit of peace and quiet.


50.09  Delgardo Hospital and Kampinsky High School:
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Both named after local families.


50.10  Kampinsky High School:
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Sports are important here.


Well, that's all for today.  I'll aim to give an update just after the final match of Devo 08 on Sunday evening.  Will it be Bat's Capporth City or Jeronij's Mallorca that become the Devo 08 Champions?  Feel free to post your thoughts and messages of support here.

'til next time.................. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on June 26, 2008, 02:06:39 PM
Paroch your new update is very good like all of your update
Your city look very good and realistic
And the lake is simply superb
Great use of the RRP project  :thumbsup:
Continu you make a excelent work  :)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Earth quake on June 27, 2008, 04:09:44 AM
Really nice work Paroch.
I Like your residentiel aera and residentiel tower. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: FrankU on June 27, 2008, 01:05:18 PM
Very nice details on the areas you showed here. Chrisadams flora is a great addition to the game, don't you think?
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on June 27, 2008, 01:42:25 PM
Another great Devo update, Paul! Do you suppose there might be a few rowdy fans out and about in Piccadilly Sunday? Good luck finding security guards who aren't football fans!

Charing Cross continues to look better and better. Thistle Point seems a bit of a departure from your normal style, or did I just get too used to Kingly! I like the looks of those high-rise apartments on the waterfront, but it's too bad the high-wealth tower is not thriving - maybe it will in time. Also the parks and playground fit in very well - another good idea well executed.

50.06, the Thistle Dock, really caught my eye. I wonder how you did the ramp a little below and to the left of center. The dock itself would be a good place for some fast-food vendors or a few market stalls. I like 50.07, too, which shows off the shape of the shoreline and the mouth of Thistle Stream. And a very pretty little waterway it is! The school and hospital are well placed, too!

Best of luck to both teams in the finals...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on June 28, 2008, 06:34:32 AM
Juhuu, Capporth City wins the semi-final and is in the final of the Devo '08! (After 12 years again in a final!!!!)
Hopefully Capporth City will win the final, too! And gets its fourth Devo champion title after 1972, 1980 and 1996.
It's the 6th final participation.

And to the update:

The pictures are looking really good! Wonderful work on them! Looking forward to more after the final. (hopefully with again the right result)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on June 28, 2008, 04:31:44 PM
Paul - I don't know how I could miss your update - but luckily I am just in time to comment before you continue with the next one  &Thk/(

I like the overview of Charing Cross and the Senna quarters! I am always falling in love with Marrast Embankments, especially if they are laid out with these little bends as shown in 50.3

The Center Tower is one of my favourite Residentials. Even if R$, I always place it on R$$$ place in my towns and make it historic. Probably that is because when I was a baby, my mother put my playpen in front of the window, and I was watching the cranes building a tower that resembles a bit like that accross the street. (yes, cranes and building towers CAN have very odd effects on little boys  ;) ) (link) (http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/dgnk_amsterdam/SC4D/General/Rozenlaan_43_Rhenen_9323628.jpg)

But we had to move from there when the baklava kept on falling down on our balcony, and my mother was affraid I would eat to much of it and become a too big boy. ;)



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: deion30296 on June 28, 2008, 06:31:29 PM
Quote from: sebes on June 28, 2008, 04:31:44 PM
Paul - I don't know how I could miss your update - but luckily I am just in time to comment before you continue with the next one  &Thk/(

I like the overview of Charing Cross and the Senna quarters! I am always falling in love with Marrast Embankments, especially if they are laid out with these little bends as shown in 50.3

The Center Tower is one of my favourite Residentials. Even if R$, I always place it on R$$$ place in my towns and make it historic. Probably that is because when I was a baby, my mother put my playpen in front of the window, and I was watching the cranes building a tower that resembles a bit like that accross the street. (yes, cranes and building towers CAN have very odd effects on little boys  ;) ) (link) (http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/dgnk_amsterdam/SC4D/General/Rozenlaan_43_Rhenen_9323628.jpg)

But we had to move from there when the baklava kept on falling down on our balcony, and my mother was affraid I would eat to much of it and become a too big boy. ;)




Lol, And to Paroch: Very nice. It looks like you took your time! And built slowly. Did you?
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on June 29, 2008, 01:49:07 PM
REPLIES:

Simpson:  Thank you.  I have more RRP work to show - but not today  ;)

EarthQuake
:  Good to see you here again and thanks for your words.

FrankU:  Yes, I agree, the RRP flora is great.  I've also just used the fences and paths, but they will wait for a future update.  The "marsh" item is one I find most useful, it is very good at softening the edges of TPW.

Joan
:  Yes, Piccadilly is starting to buzz with excitement (well it would if it had been developed yet).  I have developed a high-rise are next to the water before (in my now locked quad of Great Portland).  I suspect there will be others as riverside living is always popular.  And I have to say that apart from a couple of the buildings getting downgraded and having that "dirty" look to them I am very pleased with it.
As for Thistle Dock - well the pedestrian ramp is part of MAS71's retaining walls pack.  Was just a case of making sure the alignment was right.

Bat
:  Good luck for the final today.

Sebes:  Funnily enough the Senna quarters are part of today's update, I hope you enjoy.  I do enjoy using the Marrast sea walls, but actually lining the river banks in a city like Charing Cross can take soooooo long.
And I agree, the Centre Tower is a great building.  Thanks for that link to the pic - but isn't that hot air balloon getting too close  ;) ??  And as for the baklava - well it worked wonders for Nardo's team.

Deion30296:  Welcome to West End.  It's always great to welcome a new visitor.  As for your question - well yes and no.  I am not sure how you define slowly.  I guess you could say I build in a "controlled" fashion.  I will only zone a small area at a time and wait for it to at least be half developed in a look that I like before I move on to zoning more.  I have been working on Charing Cross (large quad) for nearly one month now and am almost finished.  The quad before this called Kinly took over three months - and yes that was built slowly!


UPDATE 51:  29th June 2008


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Three weeks ago, sixteen MD teams started on a journey.  Since then West End and Balnavia have played host to thirty football matches and we have seen 68 goals.  Now only two MD teams remain and it is time for the final:

CAPPORTH CITY (bat)   vs.  MALLORCA (jeronij)

So let's head straight over to Piccadilly for the match, to see who will be crowned Champion of Devo 08.

51.01  Piccadilly Stadium:
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Today I was going to develop the area around the stadium - but Charing Cross is not complete and I could not get inspired for a new quad - so the winner will be able to help with the design!

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Fans from both Capporth City and Mallorca have been gathering in the squares of Piccadilly and having a friendly kick around.
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And as the Mallorca fans start to head to the stadium they look confident.
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The match kicks off to a massive roar from both sets of fans.  And it is Capporth City who have the strongest start.  They have plenty of possession and a couple of good chances.
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But Mallorca slowly get into their rhythm, passing and moving seemingly at will.  And with the lightning quick Torres up front, they are looking more dangerous.

And sure enough, on 33 minutes Cesc Fabregas's pass gives Fernando Torres something to chace.  Torres outpaces Philipp Lahm and dinks the ball over the advancing Jens Lehmann. Pretty poor defending from Capporth City, but Torres shows a real striker's instinct to put Mallorca ahead 1-0.
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Capporth City make a substitution at half time in an attempt to change their fortune and have a few good spells.  They create some moments of hope from corners and free kicks but Mallorca stay in control.

The second half passes with chances, but no goals, so it finishes......

Mallorca  1-0  Capporth City.

Mallorca are champions of Devo 08 and coach Jeronij has every reason to be proud of his team and will shortly be asked to name the stadium in Piccadilly as part of the honour of winning Devo 08.  Commiserations to bat who came so close.

Well that's it - Devo 08 is over.  Mallorca played very well in every game and thoroughly deserved their victory.  So just a few thank-yous.........
Jmouse for designing the Devo logo.
Tooheys for co-hosting the tournament in Balnavia.
Pat for providing the referees.
All the MD authors who entered a team.
And everyone who visited West End and Balnavia during the tournament.

I'm sure there will be a future tournament in West End, so, see you next time.




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And now for today's update from Charing Cross:

There has been quite a bit of development since the last overview, so I thought I'd bring you up to date with what has been happening.

51.02  Charing Cross Overview - west:
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The main part of Charing Cross is now fully developed.  The sprawling suburban area of Villiers spreads to the edge of the Charing Country Park, which we'll see in a future update.


51.03  Charing Cross Overview - east:
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The eastern half of Charing Cross is made up of St Mary's and the Senna Quarters.  This is where we'll be focussing today.


51.04  Senna and St Mary's:
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We've already seen the St Mary's peninsular at the very bottom of this pic.  But there are other parts of St Mary's that we've not yet seen.  The Commercial Park and Conference Centre are both big employment areas in Charing Cross.
And Senna Park is the largest park in the borough.


51.05  St Mary's Church:
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The island church of St Mary's is the oldest building in all of Charing Cross.  No one is quite sure how they built it on this low laying island, or indeed, why they built it on this island.  But it has become the main tourist attraction in Charing Cross.  Here you can see the yello passenger ferry just leaving the island.  This is the only way on and off the island.


51.06  Silver Dock Towers:
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Right down on the south of St Mary's is Silver Dock (update 49).  These towers have recently been built, as the location is a good one.  Walking distance to the ferry.  Not too far from the main GLR station near the stadium and well served by buses.  The towers also look across the River Dinnium to their opposite towers in Thistle Point.


51.07  Lunder Park:
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This park has been built behind the Conference Centre and is a more peaceful part of St Mary's compared to the green spaces on the peninsular itself.  The gazebos at the top of the pic can be rented out for the day and are very popular with families and groups of friends for a base for a picnic or BBQ.


51.08  Conference Centre:
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The world renowned GooberGen Corporation built and manage the Conference Centre in Charing Cross.  It's location on the main avenue plus being only a short walk from the GLR make this a very successful addition to their empire.


51.09  Dividing Line:
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To the left of the avenue and roundabout is South Senna and to the right is St Mary's.  There is plenty of local rivalry between the Senna-ites and the Saints.  For years they have argued over how to decorate teh rather dull water tower on the roundabout but can never agree.  Hence it has always stayed that dull brown colour.
Ice Hockey is not very big in West End but Charing Cross is home to one of the few professional teams, the Charing Cross Chargers.  Their stadium is there in the top right of the picture.


51.10  South Senna:
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This is an overview of South Senna which used to be a small village.  It was surrounded by fields.  It grew up around the power station, where homes were built to house the workers.  As St Mary's grew, development crept up to the borders of South Senna and now, whilst it retains a village feel, it is very much part of the suburban sprawl.  Its great location and transport links mean that now it's not just power plant workers who live here.


51.11  South Senna - Old Village:
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This is the orginal old village, in the shadow of the power station.


51.12  Commercial Park:
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Whereas the power station used to be the main employer in South Senna, now it is the Commercial Park that has many jobs.  It's mainly offices, although there are a few superstores there plus a few chain restaurants.


51.13  Rivals:
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Charing Cross has many small local football teams and here, two of the bigger amateur team have their homes.  Their pitches also have a small clubhouse next to them where players can have a drink and a bit of banter after the game. 


51.14  South Senna School:
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This school serves the area and has the only 400 metre track in all of Charing Cross.


51.15  Senna Park:
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This is the largest recreational park in Charing Cross.  There are a wide range of sports available in the park, and you can see them listed on the picture.  Below the park is South Senna, and above the park is North Senna.  Let's have a look around North Senna.


51.16  North Senna:
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Whether you'd call this a large village, or a small town, I'm not sure.  I think since those two new apartment blocks have been built the place has changed dramatically.  It very much started life as a residential village that relied on the surrounding farms for both jobs and produce.  Many of the shops on the now pedestrianised street stock local produce from the farms and this has become a popular shopping destination for residents of Charing Cross and nearby Kingly, Wardour and Great Portland.


51.17  Shopping:
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And here is the shopping street.  It used to take traffic but was pedestrianised for safety and commercial reasons.  You can also see the transport hub.  North Senna station is where the football fans must leave the train and switch to the tram, which runs down, through Senna Park, South Senna, into St Mary's and the Conference Centre before reaching the Stadium.
You can also see the two new towers.  I'm not convinced they fit - let's see.


51.18  New Towers:
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A developer somehow got these through the West End Board of Planning.  They have been surrounded by controversy ever since.  The local residents think they spoil the small town/village feel of North Senna, but the people who have moved in think they are great, as they give a brilliant view over the commercial area plus the surrounding fields.
Now, I'd like your views on this one - should they both stay, should just one stay, or should they both be demolished?  I'll go with the majority of comments here.


51.19  North Senna Trasport Hub:
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I posted a pic of the hub before, but now there is more development around it.  You can see a train just arriving in the station.  You can interchange with the buses or the trams.


51.20  Side Street:
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Here is a typical North Senna side street..  It's been fun playing with a VERY full plugins folder.  And here you can see a very eclectic mix of buildings.  Haarlemergold, Jen_P, MattB, plus a couple I'm not sure of are all represented here.  I like the way the MattB diagonals have grown on the corners - that was a nice piece of luck.  And that red coach.  I've not seen that before and think it must be one of the props in Jeronij's side street mod, as it is a fixed prop, not automata.


51.21  Rural Living:
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And I'll finish off today with these houses that are on a rural lane between North and South Senna.  The land is very rolling here and looking at these houses for too long makes me feel a bit sea sick.  And the swimming pools in the gardens look a bit odd as they are not on flat ground!  Another lesson for me to learn there I guess!

I hope you enjoyed this tour of St Mary's and the Senna Quarters.  The next update will feature another aspect of Charing Cross.

'til next time................... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on June 29, 2008, 02:30:04 PM
Wow paroch very good pics there
The city is superb and so realistic
I love your fields
I will be here for the update with more RRP  :D
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on June 29, 2008, 04:09:14 PM
Congratulations are in order to the proud winner of Devo '08! Good job, jeroni - looks like all the advance planning, training drills and superb coaching paid off! :thumbsup:

Love the overviews of Charing Cross, Paul, as always!
Looks like you've done a good job of placing the different elements, including neighborhoods, farmland, commercial areas and parks. I like the seawalls in the overviews as well - that's something I might try out for myself later on.

The church on the island is a very clever idea! The moment I saw it I thought how wonderfully peaceful and relaxing it would be to take a little ferry trip on a Sunday morning, then maybe stay around for a picnic and some fellowship. Very well done!

The photos are all good, but 51.11 Old Village stands out for some reason. And Senna Park - 15.15 - looks really good. This is more like the large parks I'm used to seeing that occupy huge chunks of real estate and offer a wide variety of activities.

You asked for opinions on the New Towers in 51.18. So I went back to 51.03 for a look at the broader view. I'd create a high-rise "park" behind and to the north of the towers (toward the top of 51.03) for more affluent Sims. A lake perhaps and maybe an exclusive shopping area at the base of that hillock. Or maybe you could build toward Senna Park - definitely apartments with a view if you build in that direction! The two high-rises all by themselves look a bit lonesome, but I think you have a lot of possibilities there. Try some things out - experiment - you always come up with unique ideas when you set your mind on a challenge!

Well, I didn't mean to write a book here, but I really like this update and the neighborhoods are especially appealing.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on June 30, 2008, 03:54:48 AM
Hello Paul ,

As usual of splendid update are available on this large MD !
The city is superb, all su' it is necessary, a stage of the parks and I pass from there, you made a success of this charming mixture between various buildings .

Still cheer and thank you has you to have organized the competition which was Devo' 08  &apls
Of great and beautiful match between the various countries, all interest, that was one moment of happiness .

It is with impatient that I await your next update ,

Paul



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on June 30, 2008, 04:18:05 AM
Congrats to jeronij for winning that tournament! And thanks to paroch for this great Devo '08!

Wonderful pictures in that update! The area looks beautiful!

Looking forward to more in July!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on June 30, 2008, 06:27:18 AM
Charing Cross looks lovely! Nicely done Paul  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: CasperVg on July 02, 2008, 09:19:01 AM
Looks really good, I think you should demolish both towers, since they indeed don't really go with the rural feel of the city.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on July 06, 2008, 04:49:47 AM
REPLIES:

Simpson
- Thanks for your kind words.  Hopefully you like this update too,

Joan - Yes, the church on the island strikes me as a peaceful and relaxing place to just chill out.  I kinda imagine that there will be street vendors trying to sell you pictures of the church and so called "original" artefacts.  But tell them "no", politely and firmly and they'll leave you alone!  And Senna Park was made using the SFBT park pieces instead of the more widely used BSC parks.
As for the towers - see below.

Paul
- Good to see you here once more.  Thank you for your support my friend.

Bat - You're welcome, I am glad you enjoyed Devo 08.

Maarten - Thanks for the comment.  You're becoming a West End regular.

Casper - Good to see you here in West End - Welcome.  I think this is your first comment here - feel free to drop in any time for some West End hospitality.  And see below for the towers.


UPDATE 52 - 6th July 2008

First up - I asked for some comments and suggestions on the towers in pic 51.18.  Well Joan said - keep them and build around them.  Casper said knock 'em down.  On the basis that once they are gone, they are gone, I have built around them to see how it looks.  If I like the result I will keep them, if not - they go.  Hopefully that way at least one of you get your wish!  Development has not grown enough yet for me to make a final decision.

This week, I wanted to show you the suburban residential districts of Charing Cross.  I think building suburbs is my favourite aspect of SC4.  Maybe it's because I live in a suburban town myself - but whatever the reason I enjoy trying to create a different look and feel in each city's suburbs.  Somtimes this can be achieved through Bat choice, other times through the road layout, the use of parks and green spaces, or just by the size of building plots.  Charing Cross has some pretty large low density residential areas - suburbs!  I tried to slect a few pics to show them off, but decided that a mosaic or two would be the best way.  My mosaic skills are not as good as some others you'll find on this site, but hopefully good enought to give you an idea of Charing Cross.

Let's re-familiarise ourselves with the location and lay out.......

52.01  Region view:
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Charing Cross is really a residential city that serves it's larger neighbours, Kingly and Great Portland.  It straddles the River Dinnium.


Charing Cross has been growing nicely and had just hit 90,000 residents.  This was the limit of what I wanted, so I was just adding the finishing touches to the tile before wrapping it up.  I was spending a lot of time on a beach area, plus some ploppable farms (I-Ag demand had dried up).  I was concentrating so hard on those two things that I didn't notice that there were two big problems in the city.

52.02  Problems hit in Year 100:
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For some reason commute times went through the roof in Year 100.  I really do not know why - I did not touch the transport system at all.  One day it was working and overnight - BANG, as you can see on the graph.  The impact of this was that for many buildings commute times were so high that the buildings were abandoned.
At the same time, the water system hit a problem as well.  Old towers and pumps stopped working - which was not a disaster - but the coverage of the pipes fell to just three tiles wide.  This meant that for a few game years, many buildings did not have any water supply - so again many building became abandoned.  I built new pumps, but it was too late, the damage was done.


52.03  Thistle Park - Abandoned:
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The combined impact can be clearly seen.  I have rebuilt much of it, but the population has now peaked at 77,000.


52.04  Charing Cross Overview:
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Let's now zoom in a little bit more.....


52.05  Suburbs:
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And today, we're looking at the three main suburban areas of Charing Cross - Villiers, Umber Park and Lander.


52.06  Lander:
Lander is a mix of high and medium wealth family homes.  We start here at the Charing Cross College building and then head south through Lander.  You can see in this pic, the effects of the traffic and water problems.
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52.07  Villiers into Umber Park:
We start out on the boulevard that borders the Charing Country Park.  We then move down onto the memorial park by GeoffHaw, into the heart of Villiers where you can see a few empty building plots on the road.  These gaps were caused by the traffic/water problems.  The across the Commercial Boulevard which marks the border between Villiers and Umber Park, past the Collins Commemerative Cricket Ground, over the railway and stop at the edge of the farm land.
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52.08  Slice through Villiers and Central:
We start off a bit further to the east than the last pic.  Take a slice through a higher wealth area, catch the edge of the City Centre with the Bingo Hall.  See that very typically English old church.  You can then see the Central station and two of the Charing Cross schools, before ending up in a part of town that some say is Lander whilst others say is Umber Park.
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52.09  Western Suburbs - Umber Park
We start here in the Commercial Park at the edge of Villiers.  We then move down and cross the boulevard into Umber Park with its tightly packed streets.  Umber Park station is busy with commuters in the morning and evening.  And we end up in the southern edge of Umber Park.
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Well that was the suburbs - I hope you enjoyed them.  Please feel free to compare them to your own suburbs in both SC4 and RL - post pics if you want here, I don't mind.  I am interested to add some new suburban techniques to my armoury.

Next time I'll show you the redevelopment of North Senna's towers.  From elsewhere in Charing Cross, I have some rural and farm stuff to show you, some waterfronts and parks and then the city centre and that will be it.  Probably two or three more updates in total.

IPON UPDATE:
Charing Cross will be hosting the 4th IPON Summit over at the GooberGen Convention centre starting next week.  Leaders and Ministers from the various IPON members will be here to discuss a full agenda of items that effect the Union as a whole and our future.  IPON is the Independent Pact Of Nations.  So I'll try and feed some of that into the pages here and if you have an MD that has a bit of a storyline to it and you'd like to interact with other MD nations, IPON may be of interest to you.  New members are always welcomed.  Have a look at the IPON Forum. (http://myipon.co.nr/)



'til next time.......... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on July 06, 2008, 05:44:06 AM
Nice update, Paul! I especially like those long composition pictures. I've one question: Did you ever considered to place some rail catenaries? That could improve the realism of your cities.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on July 06, 2008, 08:34:29 AM
Your suburbs look wonderful Paul - they realy have a nice feeling. Your style of building them is very unique I must say, and I am not sure what is doing that. 

Going back the previous update, I too think that the 2 New Towers do not fit at all in North Senna. I am curious to find out what you build arround them in an attempt to have it matching the area. Two towers there, at the start (or end) of the pedestrian high street could look prety OK, if they just were build in a different style, with some space in  between.

You want to see my suburbs he... well, I played all day in Rhenen in attempt to get them how I want - but did not really succeed... I will try again later and if lucky, post it in my MD... 

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on July 06, 2008, 08:43:00 AM
Wow, you got nailed at 100 years.  Hope you find the cause.  No new stuff installed?

Great mosaics. Perfect setting for Daves cricket ground.  I struggle with large suburban parks, but it fits really well.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Yoman on July 06, 2008, 09:48:23 AM
It takes a very long time to get through 34 pages of an MD, even if you are going very fast :P

I'm surprised I haven't stopped in before. I've seen it, just never clicked the link, and that was a mistake. Not clicking links can sometimes cause you to miss out on some awesome stuff. You've got a great MD going on here, excellent farms and in particular suburbs, I also enjoyed the part that was modeled after Amsterdam, as well as the extensive GLR network (I hate working with it myself :P).

I look forward to returning, and hopefully participating in thatn IPON summit.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on July 06, 2008, 10:13:41 AM
Great work with the suburbs. You do a great job at controlling the style of development in each of them which reminds me of a number of subdivisions around here in CA and yet in a few pics there were enough differences in buildings to keep them from looking like 'cookie cutter' homes. I'm sorry to hear about the water/traffic issues, especially since they required demolition. The area looked great before, but I'm sure you'll have things back up to normal (or close enough) soon. Interesting layout for the grounds of the schools in the 3rd mosaic. Looks like you spent some time in the LE. The tennis courts look great as do the fields where you've changed the base texture (good idea... must remember to 'borrow' it). I'm curious about the IPON Summit, but I'll take a look at that link you provided. Out of curoiusity, how much time does it take you to put together an update? I'm thinking of taking that step into the MD arena, but I want to make sure I have the time necessary to dedicate to it. As for those two towers fromt eh earlier update, I would say leave them. Little things like that are always around in towns, and it gives a good story to tell. From the overview pic you showed of the area too, they don't look too bad. Good work as always.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on July 06, 2008, 10:15:19 AM
A very nice new update there, paroch! Some wonderful pictures and beautiful mosaics! Great work!

Looking forward to the next...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on July 06, 2008, 09:32:25 PM
Paul, I really like the way you're presenting recent updates! Can't imagine what would make commute times spike so sharply and suddenly, but I've fallen into the "dry well" trap lots of times. There's a lot going on in an established city, and it's easy to miss a non-visible water shortage before it's too late!

I like Thistle Park and hate to see it abandoned, but a bit of dozing ought to fix things up again. Is it zoned for medium or high density BTW? Overall, the city looks none the worse for wear - seems like there are always periods of abandonment between the good times!

You've done an excellent job on the mosaics - no lines that I can see. And I think displaying the neighborhoods in that way was a good choice. I can't imagine any single shot doing those great expanses justice. And an aside - are those pinkish-lavender flowers in 52.07 and 52.08 a part of the terrain or did you plant them?

Either way, the 'burbs in Charing Cross are lovely,
each with its own charming personality. There just aren't enough blue houses to be seen! ;)

Looking forward to
finding out more about IPON in the week or so to come...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on July 12, 2008, 10:40:22 AM
REPLIES:

Maarten:  I have thought of using the cattaneries but have not yet done so.  In fact I have not downloaded them yet.  Is there more than one set available?  Does anybody have suggestions on the best set to use, as I do think that they would add some realism.  And where can I find them?

Sebes
:  Thanks for the comment  :thumbsup: .  And yes, the North Senna Towers, I hope you like the result.    And I'm glad you got into Rhenen and played some.  Look forward to seeing the update.

Shaun:  No new stuff installed, so not sure what caused it.  I tend now to set up a city specific plug ins file and keep it til I move on.  So any newstuff downloaded has to wait in a holding area before being merged in.  And I'm glad you liked the mosaics.

Yoman:  Wow, youl looked through all 34 pages, I am impressed  :thumbsup: .  Anyway a BIG WELCOME to you here in West End.  I hope it's not another 34 pages before I see you again  ;) !  Thanks for the kind words, and yes Welcome to IPON as well.  PSSO is IPON's 11th member.

Matt:  Thanks for the great and detailed comment.  We've PM'd about the MD, so I won't say anymore here.  As for the schools, yes I do enjoy putting them together.  There are some great schools out there (particularly JBSimio's) so I hope that the grounds I put them in do them justice.  As for the Custom LE work, yes there is some in both schools, mainly around the football pitches.  I created quite a few different lots to do with football pitches, changing facilities, snack bars and fences.  Some with the BSC park grass texture and in the picture you referred to it is SFBT park grass texture.  As for the towers......see below.

Bat
:  Thank you my friend.

Joan:  Thanks for your support, as always.  Thistle Point is a mix of High and Low density and has re-grown to some degree, but certainly not as grand as it once was.  As for those pink/lavendar flowers.  I downloaded some new trees as part of the dependencies for the Italia Terrain Mod.  This is one of the "forest sets" available unde mayor mode trees by Jeronij/Cycledogg.  I cannot recall the name now - but next time I am in-game I'll write it down and PM you.  And the IPON Summit IV (http://uisn.freeforums.org/ipon-summit-iv-charing-cross-west-end-july-2008-t127.html) is going well so far thanks.  Pop on over sometime and say hi to the IPON members.


UPDATE 53 - 12th July 2008

Not a massive update today, but I just wanted to bring you up to date on two areas.....Thistle Point and those North Senna towers.

53.01  Thistle Point before:
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This is what Thistle Point looked like before its problems.


53.02  Thistle Point after:
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And now, still some towers, but not as many as before.  It's also not as colourful.


53.03  Closer View:
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53.04  View from the north:
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And what about North Senna?
53.05  North Senna Towers before:
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I asked for your opinions and it was pretty split as to whether to knock them down or build around them.  So I decided to build around them and came up with:


53.06  North Senna Towers Development:
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A third high wealth tower was developed, with them being built around a park area.  The borough council insisted on a lower wealth block being built to house key workers in the area who were being priced out of the market.


53.07  View from the South:
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You get a better view of the park from here, and can also see the large parking area set aside for the residents of the towers.


53.08  Wild Zebra:
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And with the extra development, a new nightclub, the Wild Zebra has opened for business in the pedestrianised shopping zone.


53.09  Night Time:
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And at long last (with help from Diggis) I finally got my night lighting to work correctly.


53.10  Good Night from North Senna:
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And the residents of the new Towers Development seem quite pleased with the result.


I hope you like the redeveloped area - but I did ask for your opinions, so if you think the whole development should be knocked down to make North Senna more rural just say - the majority wins.


Next update I plan to show you the rural and farm areas of Charing Cross.


'til next time............... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on July 12, 2008, 12:45:32 PM
Do'nt knock North Senna down - the result is better than I expected! You're a good city-planner Paul.
But - still - I don't like the two towers being so close. I suggest to move the right one to the right corner, and have a parkway between the two (maybe an art sculpture inbetween?)

Thistle point recovered quite OK. It's different, but still a nice area I think. Same happened to me... some of the 50's quarters changed into villa's... despite the fact that I had no schools there and that I made them historic. I am puzzled too what happened...and am no trying to have it all back - but for somereason the wrong appartment buildings keep on returning   &mmm   

And eh - my update you say? Just follow my signature  ;)


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on July 13, 2008, 05:18:53 AM
Nice updates on Thistle Point and North Senna. I like the pics a lot. About rail catenaries: the best set available are SFBT's Rail catenaries (can be found on the LEX). I've used them also for a while before I started making my own.

Best,
Maarten
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on July 13, 2008, 05:55:23 AM
These areas are looking very nice now! Great chances there! And looking forward to more of West End...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Meastro444 on July 13, 2008, 08:13:50 AM
looks very nice!

one thing though, the EuroRoad mod has been updated to include the SAM textures, perhaps use it, it will add the 'finishing touch' ;).
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on July 13, 2008, 05:53:30 PM
Hello, Paul!

Sorry for being absent for the past couple updates, I do apologize! Hopefully it won't happen again!

I have to say those mosaics in the last update were absolutely stunning, and your newest update definitely does not disappoint either, my friend!

Keep up the splendid work here!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on July 13, 2008, 06:44:31 PM
I like how the North Senna Towers Development turned out, and the parks are a great idea for it. My only thought would be regarding the low wealth tower. I know that lower wealth workers are needed, but it would seem to me that developers would be willing to have a few lower rent apartments/condos in a building like the other ones rather than one the stands out like that. Although Thistle Point is less colorful, I still think it looks good. The road to the ferry could use a bit more density around the roundabout, but that's nothing big. Lastly, I like that the area around NST is developing and getting a nightclub, but hopefully it won't lose too much of that historic feel (congratulations on getting the nightlights working by the way). Also, What is that train stattion in the last mosaci of the last update? I must have missed it last time, but it looks neat. Looking forward to the farm areas.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on July 14, 2008, 11:13:34 AM
Glad to see Thistle Point has grown back, and even though it lacks the variety of its former incarnation, it looks good. I've always liked the park that connects the buildings, but I've already mentioned that a few times, haven't I! ;D

I'm pleased that you decided to experiment with developing North Senna. I saw possibilities there from the beginning, and the finished product looks good except for the brown building which looks out of place. Could you try replacing it with one of the buildings that once occupied Thistle Point? That reddish one to the left in 53.01 or the one behind it and to the right might look good. It's hard to visualize, though, without the advantage of actually seeing the buildings all together. Actually the complex doesn't look bad at all in 53.07 View from the South - I think it's the fire escapes that bother me. They make the building look like a tenement that doesn't belong in an elegant park-like setting.

So maybe it's time to just take a break
and relax for a while at the Wild Zebra - especially at night when those fetching lights are glowing! ;)

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: panthersimcity4 on July 25, 2008, 03:19:49 PM
Haven't posted for a while! Lovely work, paroch! Your MD is one of the reasons I go out of my way to visit the Sc4Dev forums.  ;D

I love the random high-rises mingling with European W2W, and of course that lovely dutch city you made.  :thumbsup:

Oh, and w00t for IPON  :P
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on July 26, 2008, 12:55:00 AM
Paul

Sorry haven't been through here for a while but I like what I just had to catch up on :thumbsup:

While I liked the original Thistle Point, I think I like the redeveloped area more. I agree with Matt that it needs a bit more commercial development around the ferry point but overall the area has a certain charm to it.

Got your lighting working properly too :thumbsup: great - now we'll get to see some nice night shots in the future :D

All in all Paul a great Update &apls

regards
Derry
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: pagenotfound on July 26, 2008, 09:17:43 PM
These are really nice shots of a beutiful city! Region views is spactacular as well. Keep up the great work - I'll keep an eye on this one for sure.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on July 28, 2008, 02:14:20 PM
REPLIES

Sebes:  Thanks for the compliment about the planning.  The North Senna Towers have changed again - see below!  As for Thistle Point, yes different for sure and it is frustrating when an area changes for the worse for your tastes.  Although I don't understand why it changed if you made it historic - that is strange.  And thanks for the pointer to NN!

Maarten:  Thanks for the comment and pointer to the catenaries.  I've downloaded them and need to start using them!

Bat:  Thanks my firend, I'm glad you liked the changes.

Maestro444:  Welcome to West End - your first comment here I think.  I will have a look at the road mod you mention and see how it goes, thanks.  And feel free to drop by any time.

Dustin
:  No need to apologise, so many MDs, so few hours!  I've missed a week myself and haven't dropped by Stats Central for a while myself!

Matt
:  I always appreciate your well thought comments.  See below for the changes to the North Senna Towers.

Joan:  Thanks for your detailed thoughts as always.  As per my comments to Sebes and Matt, there have been some changes....

Panther
:  Good to see you here again my friend.  And thanks for your compliments.  And yeah - Long Live IPON - we're back in business!

Derry
:  No need to apologise.  I've been a bit light in the MD section myself recently.  Thanks for the suggestion re the ferry area and yeah, bring on the night shots!

Rob:  Welcome to West End.  Always good to see a new face here - And with great supportive comments like that you are welcome here ANYTIME  :)


UPDATE 54 - 28th July 2008


It's been over two weeks since the last update, which is a long time for me, so I must apologise to you all.

OK, After the comments about the North Senna Towers, I had another look.  The buildings are all growable, and that tennement block upgraded to another Walldorf Tower.  A different colour, but hey, it looked good:

54.01  North Senna Towers re-grow:
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But I got to thinking about what Sebes said.  A gap between the front two towers would really complete the development.  But of course there is a risk involved.  But hey, life is about risks sometimes, so I demolished the right hand tower, re-zoned, changed the park a little bit........ And a tenement block grew.  I waited and waited and it would not upgrade, so I demolished it.  And that was it.  Nothing else would grow.  So now the North Senna Towers look like this.....


54.02  North Senna Towers - what next:
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I have just two more update from Charing Cross to come.  So hopefully something else will grow by then.


I was hoping to bring you the farms update today, but have run out of time.  So here is a farm teaser and the rest should follow later this week.

54.03  Farm Teaser:
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Oh, and the IPON Summit being held in Charing Cross is going well, so come on over and have a look here:

IPON Summit V - Charing Cross (http://uisn.freeforums.org/ipon-summit-iv-charing-cross-west-end-july-2008-t127.html)



'til next time........................ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on July 28, 2008, 02:42:49 PM
Hi Paul,
Nice small update :thumbsup:

I like the different coloured tower that grew. Another thing I liked is that you took the risk demolishing the tower.
The entrance to the park looks better now but tis a shame that nothing grew that you wanted.

Have you tried rezoning as commercial, letting it develop then rezoning it back to residential.
I have found this to work for me - just a suggestion ;)

Oooh Rural shots from you - great looking forward to those :thumbsup:

btw kettles about to boil, fancy a brew?

regards
Derry

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on July 28, 2008, 03:35:58 PM
Paul, I really like the looks of North Senna with the three towers, especially with the one of a different color - IMO there's now a pleasing visual balance. Have you considered de-zoning the empty spot and covering it with a continuation of the park? The other alternative is to see if another pink tower would grow in that spot - slim chance, eh! &mmm

And that's good work on the farm - lots of interesting details that leave me wanting to see more!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: dedgren on July 28, 2008, 05:35:29 PM
Heh, Paul- we have a couple of blocks in Anchorage like that.  The developer gets together all but one corner of the entire block, puts up stuff phased over several years thinking the last parcel will fall into place and, twenty years later, you have the old "mouse next to an elephant" scenario.  Very RL, my friend!


David
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on July 28, 2008, 06:38:36 PM
Funny how that works out with growing buildings. I'm sure it will fill in though, hopefully with what you want. The farms look like they will be a treat to see, and I've briefly looked through the IPON events, and from what I have seen so far, it looks like things are off to a good start. Nice little update, and don't worry about the delay, it's always good to see the new developments regardless of how long it takes.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on July 29, 2008, 03:20:36 AM
A fine small update, Paul!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on July 29, 2008, 03:35:52 AM
Nice work on that area! And the farm teaser is looking wonderful!

Looking forward to the next update...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: panthersimcity4 on July 29, 2008, 11:49:37 PM
I love that farm. Great work!  :)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on July 30, 2008, 09:05:02 AM
Hi my friend
It's really good
I love your city and the style of your city who is incredible
So you make a really good job
continue ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on July 30, 2008, 11:10:51 AM
 :'(  Don't ever listen to my comments again....  I hate it when no buildings grow back - or even worse, the wrong buidlings. But.... you could do as Joan says (yes: you better listen to her comments) extend the park over the empty lot....  Or, for heavens sake: plop a waldorf hotel.

The farm looks great! Are that sunflowers?  :satisfied:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: FrankU on July 31, 2008, 06:45:00 AM
You could also follow Dedgren's scenario and put some building site or wasteland tiles on the spot...
The not growing of things you want is very annoying. I like to make neighbourhoods with similar buildings, like we have here in NL. But it's almost impossible to do....

Your city looks great.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on August 01, 2008, 03:05:38 PM
This is my 1000th post here at SC4D.  I feel like one of the regulars now and have enjoyed my time here.  I've met some great people and made some new friends.  And some of these I have met face to face and enjoyed a pint of beer (or three) with them.  To now be part of a team (The NUTs), have met some of the BSC greats, to have some of my own creations on the LEX, and to have an MD here in the Classics section are all things that make me proud to be part of the SC4 community.  And I guess I have your support and comments to thank for that - so a big THANK YOU from me.


REPLIES:

Derry:  Thanks for your suggestions.  I'll be trying those out!  As for the rural shots - I look at my results and realise I need to take more lessons from you!!

Joan:  It's good that everyone has a different opinion on what to do with those towers.  I'll try em all.  As for the farm, that is one of my early custom lotting attempts.

David
:  Always a pleasure to see you drop by.  And yes, I know what you mean.  I'll give it one last go before moving on to see if I can get another elephant!

Matt:  Thanks for that.  And the IPON Summit has been fun, just something a bit different.  Hopefully as we get more active more MDs will think of joining - including new ones that people might be thinking of starting ;)

Maarten:  And a fine small comment ;)

Bat:  Well not so long to wait this time!

Panther:  Thanks my friend, it was a custom lot I made.  I have to confess that it is a ploppable and not a growable.

Simpson:  Thanks for a great comment.

Sebes:  Hey, no worries.  I wanted to see if it would happen!  And I didn't think of the hotel - I'll have a look.  As for the sunflowers....... Yes, I created a custom ploppable field of sunflowers.  Great to make sunflower oil!!  If you'd like them - just ask!

FrankU:  Thanks Frank.  I will try a few things with those towers to see what happens, and yes, I also like developing areas with many similar buildings.  Much more realistic in my mind.


UPDATE 55 - 1st August 2008


OK, the North Senna Towers will wiat for my final Charing Cross update.  Today it's time to look at the farming and rural areas of the borough of Charing Cross........

55.01  Overview:
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This will help you get acquainted with what you are looking at!


55.02  Senna Farms Overview:
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Charing Cross is famous for its flowers.  Many of the flowers grown in Charing Cross are sold at the Flower Market in next door Kingly (remember the Flower Market?)


55.03  Senna Farms:
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You can see how the farms roll down to the riverside.


55.04  Southern Farms 1:
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You can see more of those famous flowers!


55.05  Southern Farms 2:
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I really enjoy working with the TPW and ChrisAdams RRP culverts give new possibilities.  If you look at the bottom of the pic you can see how I line up the river for the next tile.  Once I get it lined up, those roads will be demolished.


55.06  Sunflower Farm:
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This was the teaser from the last update.  Everything you can see in this picture (apart from the SAM street) is a custom lot I put together.  The farm yard and building used many of JMyers items and each of the fields was created as a ploppable.  I find these very useful for filling in those areas when you want a particular field, or when Ag demand has dropped and you still want a farm.  I really like the sunflower field - just because it is a bit different!!

OK, well that's the farms.  I'm quite pleased with them - but next time I do farms, I want to do them better.  The Tea Cat is one of the masters (IMHO) so I'll have to study his pics a bit more!  Let's move on to some of the other rural parts of the borough.


55.07  River Calton 1:
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The River Calton is a man made river, designed to carry water across the plains of inner West End (for future updates).  The river is very straight.  The mouth of the river is home to many different wild life species.  I enjoyed making this - BUT - I know the connection to the Maxis water is not right.  I just don't know how to make it better.  Any suggestions are welcome.


55.08  River Calton 2:
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Up river, it passes through farmland.  I really like the way the Italia Terrain Mod works well with Chris's RRP flora items.


55.09  Charing Country Park:
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This is an area that has been left to nature.  Many water birds nest along the river banks here.  A few small parking areas have been placed to allow residents to enjoy the countryside.  Let's take a look through the park, starting at the large building in the top right of the picture.


55.10  Watersford Mansion:
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This mansion is owned by the cult who worship the Great God Diggis.  Their headquarters are in Watersford, so this building takes its name from their.  All sorts of strange goings-on are alleged to take place in the ground of the mansion, and it is rumoured they are trying to make their own stream and pond in the gardens.


55.11  Nesting Grounds:
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As we move through the park we come to the marsh area where many wading birds nest during the spring months.


55.12 Wind Power:
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The main parking are and bus stop, where visitors start their trek through the park.  The wind turbine provides all of the power used within the park.  Many species of wild flowers grow within the park.


55.13  Small Lake:
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This small lake is home to the Lesser Spotted Australian Newt.  It is an animal that hasn't been seen for some time but is reputed to still be around.


55.14  Parking:
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Another of the small parking areas and some paths through the park.  You have to watch carefully where you tread as this area is home to six different species of field mouse.


55.15  Saybus Rocks:
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And we end our tour of the park at the Saybus Rocks.  It is said that these rocks are much older than they look - but whether they have been here for thousands or millions of years is anyones guess.


I hope you enjoyed this tour of the quieter parts of Charing Cross.  Next time will be our last visit to this quad when I'll show you the waterside areas and we'll see what finally happened to the North Senna Towers. 

I'm now away on holiday for a week, staying in a small house beside a river in Norfolk, England.  We'll have a boat for the week to go exploring, so keep your fingers crossed for me that the sun shines.  And maybe I'll get some inspiration for some water scenes when I return.

'til next time.................... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on August 02, 2008, 06:10:37 AM
Congrats on 1000 comments here at this forum! &apls
And also congrats on 55 updates! &apls

That newest update is really beautiful with wonderful pictures! The nature in this area looks super, paroch!
The city looks also wonderful! :)

Looking forward to more... ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on August 02, 2008, 06:44:17 AM
Hi my friend
Your new update is superb as always  :thumbsup:
I love the fields who are near the city  :)

David  ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on August 02, 2008, 11:04:49 AM
An Excellent update Paul &apls &apls

Thank you for taking us on such a wonderful tour :thumbsup:. I really enjoyed my trip through the farming areas.
Thanks also for such praise too, about the only thing I can aid on at the moment is to add some fence/hedges between the fields
but your reworked lot looks fantastic &apls &apls

I see you use the same technique to align rivers and ponds as myself :D Great minds eh?

Your transition is really good from plop to game water(try turning the ripples off when taking a pic ;)) One of the best I've seen so far.
It is something that is quite difficult to pull off well and you do that here  :thumbsup: btw Which water mod do you use?

Have a great break Paul, see you when you get back :thumbsup:
(Don't forget the thermos of Tea for your boat trips ::))

:satisfied:
TTC


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: vester on August 02, 2008, 11:49:35 AM
Lovely rural settings, you have there. I just love it.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: XoX on August 02, 2008, 12:42:18 PM
very very very very wonderful pictures!!!!  &apls  &apls :o
I love your splendid nature!!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on August 02, 2008, 01:49:08 PM
What a treat, Paul! I feel like I've just returned from a refreshing walk in the countryside surrounded by the delightful sights, sounds and smells of wide-open spaces.

Your farms look great - colorful and laid out in interesting shapes across rolling hills. I especially like the Senna Farms in 55.03 with the dirt paths and winding street along a very attractive shoreline. And of course, the sunflower farm is the highlight of the whole update. I'd enjoy lotting twice as much if I could produce results half that good!

Later on, you and Dave will have the dubious pleasure of
helping me learn to use TPW - you both have it down pat by now! Of the rest of the photos, 55.11 Nesting Grounds is my favorite - so simple and beautiful - it's a place I could go, sit on the bank and wash away all the day's trials and tribulations.

Hope you and your family enjoy the holiday...
Joan

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on August 05, 2008, 04:12:59 AM
QuoteThis small lake is home to the Lesser Spotted Australian Newt

Hehe, I can take a hint and deserved that  ;)

You really have got on top of the TPW (you can teach Joan  :) ). As for the transition, that is a difficult one and while I've seen some great attempts, I don't think anyone has got that quite right yet.

55.06 is my fave, it's obvious that most of the farms are on rolling slopes, a great effort in itself, but that close-up just looks superb. Like the way you have added a few props into the fields as well  :thumbsup:

Now, I need to know, the purplish ground cover, where did you find that. I like it.

Another great update Paul, and I hope the sun did shine mate.

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on August 05, 2008, 04:57:50 AM
Wow Paul, great work.  I love what you did with chris's flora.  My favourite has to be the last one.  Looks like a lot of areas back home.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on August 05, 2008, 09:47:15 AM
QuoteSaybus Rocks.  It is said that these rocks are much older than they look - but whether they have been here for thousands or millions of years is anyones guess.

Well - this picture indeed rocks!  &apls

And you my friend seem to continue to amaze me. Now you're going rural as well, and with a big bang. I don't know what to say because I am real sucker for rural areas - so no Saybus rocks here  ;)
I have no time for a long comment now (PC - internet problems and dinner being served in 5 minutes) but will return later to watch these beauties again.

pssst: my 2000th post - what a great place to post it ! 

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nardo69 on August 11, 2008, 12:27:11 PM
Hello Paul,

sorry for not showing up lately but RL hasn't been kind to me at all during the last weeks ...

Nice update! I like especially 55.04 with the Avenue running straight through the fields leaving the small seddlement aside. In General I don't like these flower fields too much but there they look rather good!

Your picture from the "wild side" make me really wish I had the time for firing up Sc4 ...

Take care my friend!

Bernhard  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Schulmanator on August 13, 2008, 06:10:29 AM
Always a  pleasure to drop in and see your work.  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: mattb325 on August 14, 2008, 08:20:52 PM
Hi Paul

This is brilliant

Of these recent updates - I have to say that shot 55.03 is my favourite - great rural shot with the lone house on the only paved street...

I also really like the way you have used the ploppable water and transitioned the banks with Chris' marshes - it is really effective.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on August 15, 2008, 07:58:24 AM
REPLIES:

Bat
- thanks for your comment.

Simpson - thank you, good to see you here again.

Derry
- it's nice to get supportive words like those - thanks.  I really enjoy the plop water, so am pleased you liked it.  And thanks for the tip re the the ripples.  As for water mod - it's called Brigantine and is by PEG.

Arne - hey, thanks.

Xox
- Welcome to West End.  And thanks for your  great comment.

Joan
- Thanks for those words.  And the TPW is pretty easy to pick up - I look forward to seeing what you do with it.

Dave - Hey, great to see you back in West End.  And thanks for the compliments.  As for the purple ground cover.....it's part of ChrisAdams Rural Renewal Project.  Check his thread for the most up to date version.
As for the holiday, we had a bit of every weather!!

Shaun - comment 700 earns you a place in the Double Zero Club.  I'll have to think of a suitable award.

Sebes
- I'm pleased your 2000th comment was here in West End.  And I'm pleased you like the rural side of West End.  I hope your new PC and internet connection is all good now.

Bernhard - No need to apologies, I know what it's like, I've not been as active on the MDs as I would like myself!  I hope RL is being kinder to you now.  And thanks for the supportive words.

Schulmanator - Welcome to West End, you may lurk here often, but this is your first post here, so thanks for dropping by.  Feel free to drop in any time.

Matt - Good to see you again.  And thanks for the comment.  That house all on its own is one of yours, but I guess you knew that.  I've started work on a couple of other quads and your recent releases are making a great addition to them - thanks.


UPDATE 56:

Today is our final visit to the borough of Charing Cross.  The city has grown to reach a population of 80,000, which makes it the 6th largest borough in West End by population. 

We've seen the stadium area, the villages and the suburbs, plus the farms and the rural areas.  Charing Cross straddles the River Dinium so today we're going to close out with a visit to the waterside areas.

56.01:  Region Overview:
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A reminder of where Charing Cross sits in relation to its neighbours.


56.02:  Central Ferry Terminal:
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The river is important to the city and many people pass through this terminal each day.  And of course, the boardwalk shopping area is also very popular.


56.03:  Riverside Market & Marina
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The passenger ferry is used by people visiting the market.  Of course, the people with boats in the marina don't need to worry about the ferry.


56.04:  Heigham Park and Beach
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This corner of Charing Cross is where everyone goes at the weekend and on public holidays.  The beach, showing through the water is a bit annoying - if anyone knows a way round that please let me know.


56.05:  More of the Park
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56.06:  And more of the Beach
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You can see the beach problem I'm having even more here.


56.07:  Night Shot of the Terraces
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A place for a romantic stroll maybe.


56.08:  Whipps Village
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A small village next to the river.


56.09:  City Overview East
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56.10:  City Overview West
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And I promised to take you back to the North Senna Towers to see how they finished off......

56.11:  At last I got a building to grow in the space for the last tower.......
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But it was the wrong building.  I waited and waited to see if it would upgrade, but no.
So I decided I had to make a ploppable lot, which is kind of cheating, but needs must!


56.12:  North Senna Towers
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And there seemed room to plop in a larger but complimentary building.  And there you have it, the end result.


I hope you enjoyed Charing Cross.  I've since been working on a small quad called Dean, a medium quad called Broadwick and a large quad called Piccadilly.  The small and medium quads are finished, so I hope to show something of those soon.  And watching the Olympics inspired me to create West End's own sports venue.  This is where the annual West End Games are held where the 16 Boroughs (so far) of West End compete in a range of sports.  The city of Piccadilly have even built an Athletes Village in the hope that one day they may host an international sporting event.


56.13:  Piccadilly Sports Park:
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Maybe we'll see more of this in future.

'til next time...................... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on August 15, 2008, 08:09:59 AM
Wonderful looking pictures there in that 56th update, paroch!
Great looking own sports venue! Fantastic work on your update and city!! :thumbsup:

Looking forward to update 57! ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on August 15, 2008, 08:24:19 AM
Wow your région is superb great work on it
Your city is always so good my friend, I love the Heigham parc it's very réalistic
The générale view of your city is very good  ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on August 15, 2008, 09:26:13 AM
Paul, good to see you have used your week off well.   :D  And that 700 was a total accident, didn't even notice.

It's a pity about the beach, I recall I had the same problem,  changed to a better terrain mod for the beaches I think. 

I'd hate to have to take my boat out of the backside of the marina though.

Also nice job on North Senna Towers, the final complex looks good.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on August 15, 2008, 09:46:13 AM
This time I have to start at the end - North Senna Towers looks terrific! It was well worth the wait for a perfect combination, and you couldn't have found a better plop to top it off! You did a superb job on the Piccadilly Sports Park, too - and love the little labels.

The ferry terminal and marina are well designed,
and I like that water mod - I'm using it, too. The Marina is especially attractive with the little boats. Putting some of the market stalls in the park was a good idea, and overall, the park looks really good. You work well with the paths and I know it isn't easy to make everything come out even so to speak! The way you've planted the trees is interesting - not too crowded and very park-like.

Too bad about the beaches - wish I could help but I don't use those sand strips. Never could get them to look right. Mine always looked more like a giant Band-Aid than a pretty beach.

Attractive overview, good night shot, lovely photos - all in all a typically well-done update!

Later...

Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on August 16, 2008, 03:30:13 AM
Fantastic work over there (except about the beaches, but that seems a problem that no-one of us has a solution for that yet). And there's a lot of structure in your city as I can see on the overview pictures. Can't wait to see more!

Best,
Maarten
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on August 16, 2008, 06:28:25 AM
North Senna Towers is looking marvelous... it's just how I pictured that the area should become. Don't worry about the plopping - Psssstt... I know somebody that plopped almost his entire downtown   ?=mad)=  The one bonus buidling allong the railtracks is making the area very complete. Well done man.

The beaches look strange - I never had that before, and believe I used the same beaches. Will check next time at home in a Lake Ontario Shore part of Rhenen!

The sportsvenues are also excellent. The blue tennis courts jump out of the picture - but as it's exactly my favorite shade of blue, I love it!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: panthersimcity4 on August 17, 2008, 10:53:08 AM
Nice work, your cities are always very charming, and your last update was no exception!  :)

One question, would you happen to know where you got the embankments with the neat stairs in that "Beach problem" picture? Thank you  :P :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Schulmanator on August 17, 2008, 06:23:31 PM
The waterfront looks great. I have had the same problem with the beach. I have not found a way around it, but sometimesit does seem to, temporarily, fix itself. Nice work!  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: FrankU on August 18, 2008, 04:32:03 AM
My € 0,02 about the beaches:
Is this problem in some way related to the water graphics bug? I see also some buglike details on other (Marrast?) waterfront lots.
I am quite sure I also used these beaches and they looked good in my cities. In these days I used the unmodded Maxis water. Only in Region view they looked like you showed here. I disliked it so much that I don't use these beaches anymore. Pity, because now I don't have nice beaches as my terrain and water mods are not able to give me nice sandy summerbeaches as I would like to have them.

Post #400! Am I a grown up member now?
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on August 18, 2008, 11:17:41 AM
Magnificent work, Paul, as per usual, my friend!

I especially love your sports complex, complete with the pictograms for each of the events--very clever!

One question for you, though: The walls that you've used in conjunction with the stairs by your beach, which texture is that? I'm fairly certain those are MAS71 walls, but I haven't been able to locate the texture. Many thanks in advance, my friend!

Can't wait to see more!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nova vesfalo on August 18, 2008, 11:18:23 AM
The aerial view is amazing ! so does the close up and the Senna Towers ! Just think there's a lil bit too much bridge. But the global view and the downtown-others transitions is great !!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on August 18, 2008, 12:55:40 PM
Excellent update as always, Paul!

I especially like city overviews and the Picadilly Sports Park   &apls

Your problem with beaches can be easily solved (unfortunately not on the regional view  $%Grinno$%). There are two problems with ploppable beaches:

1. The bug visible on your pictures. It is not visible when you open the city, but it appears when you save the city without exiting. If you see this bug, you need only go to the zone view and back. The beach looks correct again.
2. The ploppable beach is visible throughout the shallow water and sometimes you see it's border. It looks bad, to avoid it you should use additional beach pieces to cover the sea bottom until the border disappears.
Here I used ISAT beach set, it contains both main beach pieces and additional ones (to plop under water). Looking at the first picture you can see where I made the beach longer (on four bottom rows).

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But it is wise to look at your beach from each side. On the second picture you can see that the beach is long enough at first two rows, but too short in two next ones (it was not visible on the first picture).

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Now I'm saving the city without exiting. And...

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But after switching to zone view and back everything is OK again (the picture is unnecessary  :))

If you have much shallow water or if you don't like the way how the beach changes the sea bottom, you can solve it too by modifying the Terrain properties exemplar. Please compare these two pictures:

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If you would like to use it, Paul, you must tell me wchich terrain mod do you use and I can prepare the zip for you.

(An information for those who like to play with such things: it can be done by decreasing the Water Depth For Max Alpha property to 5 - 10 meters).

I'm very glad some of the best MDs are still active  ;) I'm too busy at the moment, but my MD will be active again too!

Adam

Edit: sorry for cluttering your MD thread by these pictures! At the first moment I was going to send you a PM, but then I decided to describe it here because I suppose it can be helpful for other people too - and I haven't enough time to show it in my MD or another place (in this case it would need more detailed description).


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on August 18, 2008, 12:59:06 PM
waow exellent update here  &apls i like the olympic site  :thumbsup: it's realistic  ;)

where did you get the cercle tennis stadium ??
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on August 18, 2008, 02:29:06 PM
Paul looking real good here and I could have sworn I left a comment already on this update but I guess I havent anyways I would love to see that beach area fixxed other then that I cant wait to see what you have in store with all the simlympic icons in place... oooh Im exspecialy found of those parks of yours, great job!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on August 18, 2008, 02:47:38 PM
Excellent update Paul &apls

I'm very impressed by Piccadilly Sports Park.

Been such a keen cyclist I was hoping to see more of the Velodrome :D
but am just glad to see its on the map  ::)

I see that Adam more than likely has the solution for your beach problem,
and it'd be great to see if his solution worked or not ;)

It's always a pleasure to drop by :thumbsup:

:satisfied:
TTC

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on August 18, 2008, 03:53:34 PM
Paul,

Seems like it has been a while since I last replied, but it looks like you're at it again. Beautiful update. The Charing Cross ferry terminal is great, though I agree with Diggis about backing a boat out of the right-hand side of the marina... a bit rough on the hull. You continue to do an amazing job with details. The flow of your transit networks really ties things together visually. I can picture taking the ferry, walking along the boardwalk to the market and up the stairs to that park/fanzone. The little details like that are what makes this place so special. The overview is great too. I remember seeing those little sections and the overview really brings back memories and shows just how much you've put into this (if I may borrow a phrase from Nardo: Don't forget to make backups. Hopefully you'll never need them, but... you know...). I don't make this comparison often, but this reminds me quite a bit of AVR in terms of the detail and care given to it. Anyway, getting back to the update before I start going off on tangents, the North Senna Towers turned out great. Plopping is no problem when the results look like that (and hey, 3 out of 4 isn't bad) and the additional building by the tracks is a great addition too.

I'd say Piccadilly is certainly well on its way to hosting an event. The icons are a great touch, though I don't see one for fencing... (picked up the sport recently, it's great fun) and I dont recall having seen that tennis complex before (the main stadium or the smaller facilities just below). It's a pleasure to see the work you do here and, when I do get enough time to just play the game, I'll certainly have some fine inspirtion to draw on. Hope all is well and I'll talk to you later.
-Matt

-Adam: Great work on the beach problem. I've been thinking of looking into a similar sort of thing for my own region, and you've saved me quite a bit of time. I'm glad you decided to post it here.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on August 19, 2008, 02:23:04 PM
REPLIES:

Thanks to everyone who commented - 16 comments is very good for one update, I'm well pleased!!


Bat
:  Thanks Bat, you'll have to wait a little longer for update 57.

Simpson:  Good to see and you and I am pleased you like the park.

Shaun:  Well, your double zero club award is below.  And luckily Adam has some good suggestions for me on the beaches.  And yes I agree, taking a boat out the back side is not a good idea  :P

Joan:  I am pleased you liked the North Senna Towers end result - it took a long time for such a small area.  The sports zone was quite good fun to produce and I'm sure we'll see it again.  As for the park - those trees are not planted by me, just part of the BSC park set.  But I agree, they are quite effective like that.  Thanks for another great comment.

Maarten:  Thanks, I'm glad you liked the overview pics.

Sebes:  Hmmm, yes I guess I may have plopped a building or two hundred in another city!!  As for the tennis courts - they are textures made by Diggis and can be found in NUTs Prop Pack A on the LEX.  I guess it's also the KLM colour.

Panther:  Good to see a fellow IPON member here.  As for the walls - they are by Mas71 and are on the LEX.  I suggest you do a Power Search for Mas71 and you'll see the various packs available.  All of his walls are BRILLIANT, I can't recall exactly which pack this one was in, but I can recommend them all.

Schulmantor:  Thanks for your words and if you read Ennedi's post he has a simple solution.

FrankU:  Thanks for your contribution to the beaches debate.  You are right that the region view is still a problem.  I may try to make simple small lots of plain sand and place them as close to the water as I can - at least this way region view will look good.  Something else for me to play with and test!!  And even before the 400 posts you were a grown up member!  But here's to the next 400 posts.

Dustin:  Thanks for a great comment.  Those little pictograms were easy to find in Olympic time and I had a feeling they may finish it off.  As for the beach walls...... Yes they are by Mas71, but as to which texture, I'm not sure.  There are about 6 or 7 different textures in my menu.  Have a power search on LEX for Mas71 and you'll see there are add on textures available - I think it's one of those.

Vesfalo:  Two IPON members in one update!!  Thanks for your comment.  And yes, the number of bridges is always a difficult decision as to what is right.

Adam:  It's always good to see you here and thanks for your fantastic post.  This is very helpful to me and I am sure also to many others.  You are always welcome to post pics here in West End, so no problems.  We've swapped PMs about the terrain mod (Italia) and water mod (Brigantine).

Arthur:  Welcome to West End, it's always good to see a new face here.  Thanks for your comment and that tennis stadium is not yet released.  It is by Yoder and I am working on some lotting for it.  It should be heading to the LEX some time - but not just yet as I need to do more work on it.

Pat:  Hehehe, the icons seem popular, so thanks for that and also your comment about the park.

Derry:  This was my first attempt at a multi function sports park, so thanks for the comment.  I did plop a big building to use as a velodrome but decided it just made the area look a bit unbalanced, but given Team GB's domination of the velodrome in Beijing maybe I need to re-think.  The cycling icon there is for the road race, an event I am sure Tales at TeaTime would excel.

Matt:  Whoa, what a comment!  It's always a pleasure when you drop in.  Thanks for the detail you provide.  I've only very briefly looked at AVR (using your link) so will have to check it out in more detail when time permits.  I'm glad you like the overviews, I include them in an attempt to help the readers get a feel for the lay out of the city, so I'm glad it has worked.  As for the other sports.....well should West End ever host an international games then I would look to cover some more sports, but for the time being this is purely a domestic venue and fencing is not big in West End (but maybe I'll have to change that).  As for the tennis complex - you are right (see my comments to Arthur above), it is still a work in progress,


DOUBLE ZERO CLUB:

No update today, but time to honour West End's latest member to the Double Zero Club.......Diggis.

Many of you know that Diggis is a very dear friend of the NUTs and is indeed an honorary NUT (and rumour has it as soon as he hits thirty may be up for full membership).  Shaun has provided much help and guidance to us and has also provided us with some VERY useful props which have helped us create many different lots.

So it gives me great pleasure to announce that Diggis is the OFFICIAL PROP PROVIDER TO WEST END

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And as a mad Kiwi rugby fan, a picture of the all black prop seemed approriate as well!


The next update will be on Thursday, when West End takes part in a SC4 community wide event...... Watch this space.

'til next time............... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on August 19, 2008, 07:30:18 PM
A fitting tribute to our good friend Shaun (Diggis) who has, indeed, been an enormous help to the NUTs. And now that you have an official prop provider, Paul, all you need is an official house provider! Who knows, maybe you'll get lucky one of these days! ;)

Looking forward to Thursday...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on August 19, 2008, 10:20:33 PM
Oh my friend very nice picture there  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on August 19, 2008, 11:21:11 PM
Even though an official update is on the way, I still wanted to congratulate West End's Official Prop Provider (who should be NUTs enough as it is... ahh, you know it's getting late when my puns hit that level) and also to thank him for the time he has put into these works (and to those that lotted them, etc as well).

Also Paul, you may wish to think before opening the doors to fencers... people walking around piccadilly armed with swords... ah well, if West End is in a hosting competition, it would certainly get my vote, fencing or not (though I'd be happy to swing by and give some pointers, even if I am new to it myself). Good work on the tennis stadium. It's certainly off to a good start. I can't think of any suggestions for it at the moment, but if I do, I know who to direct them at now. AVR is quite the CJ, and I highly suggest that you budget a fair bit of time when you do decide to poke through it as there is quite a bit to see.

I'll be back by around Thursday to catch the new developments. Until then, take it easy.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on August 20, 2008, 02:56:29 AM
exellent picture here :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on August 20, 2008, 05:30:16 AM
Awww Shucks.  Nice job on the All Blacks Props there, Hayman and Dermody.  Hayman is regarded as one of the best, if not the best, in the world (he's the one with the beard.)  Playing the Irish in Hamilton there, 2006, won 34-23 by the AB's, maintaining their perfect record against the Irish.


I'm only as good as the requests I get, so without you asking for tennis courts and TV screens, I wouldn't have anything to do. Speaking of TV screens I realised that I have to edit those somewhat.  They don't glow at night like they should.  Will talk to you about it.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on August 20, 2008, 08:46:20 AM
Congrats to Diggis for posting the 700th reply of this MD!

And the picture looks wonderful! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on August 21, 2008, 12:48:52 AM
UPDATE 57 - 21st August 2008

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The Simlympic Torch Relay comes to West End today.  It is a proud day for West End to be part of something that is a community wide event.  West End will be sending a team to the Simlympics for the first time and there are high hopes for a good performance from the team.

The Torch Relay route was designed to take in many of the sites from across West End, so sit back, turn up the volume and enjoy this trip through West End by clicking HERE (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YA6Atg7taAM) or below.


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'til next time............ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%




Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on August 21, 2008, 01:01:57 AM
This one deserves a gold medal! By far the best vid you've ever done, and the best I've ever seen. I can see that a lot of work went into it, but more important is the thought, the planning and the presentation.

Thank you for the pleasant memories
- and you know which one is my favorite!
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on August 21, 2008, 01:25:33 AM
Hey my friend  :)
Great update there Paroch, your city is looking very, very, very good lol
The région view are wow soooo beautiful  &apls, there are lots of stadiums in your city lol  :P
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on August 21, 2008, 05:52:46 AM
Great video!  &apls

I agree with Joan, it's the best CS4 video I've ever seen. Very good quality, excellent montage and great final effect!  :thumbsup:

Adam
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on August 21, 2008, 07:37:37 AM
exellent video  &apls very good job !! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on August 23, 2008, 06:26:16 AM
 &apls  :thumbsup: Awesome video there! Wonderful work on it! :thumbsup: &apls
Looking forward to more...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on August 23, 2008, 12:39:21 PM
Great video there Paul.  Possibly you're best yet.  Loved visiting your sports arenas again.  Look forward to you're next update.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on August 23, 2008, 03:30:43 PM
Cool video Paul - excellent! &apls 
The video itself deserves a Gold medal - but many of the pictures shown in at as well.... Loved seeing some of the familiar spots back. Montell's and the barge/bridge thing stay my favourite  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on August 23, 2008, 06:54:43 PM
Hey Paul looking real sweet here and that video is just simply fantastic!!! I can't wait to see what you have planned for the next update, till then make sure you keep shaun busy lol....
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on August 23, 2008, 07:59:18 PM
Splendid work Paul. You've made some fine videos before, but this one is certainly one of the best. It's a great showing of West End, as well as all the custom content that is out there. The music and the overlayed photos were a great touch too. Well done.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on August 25, 2008, 02:37:55 AM
Nice video, Paul!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: dmscopio on August 25, 2008, 10:40:05 PM
great video, i think you can't wait to have the upton park ploped in your city. the good news is that i am working on it right now, will have some update in my thread pretty soon.  :)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on August 26, 2008, 04:09:44 AM
I like it Paul, you're another Hugh Hudson in the making.  :)

Nicely put together, and it's good to see the best of Westend in there as well. Bit worried about the number of Union Jacks though, surely you couldn't have won that many medals  $%Grinno$% (Dave opens a big can of worms  :D)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on August 26, 2008, 06:15:47 AM
Quote from: tooheys on August 26, 2008, 04:09:44 AM
I like it Paul, you're another Hugh Hudson in the making.  :)

Nicely put together, and it's good to see the best of Westend in there as well. Bit worried about the number of Union Jacks though, surely you couldn't have won that many medals  $%Grinno$% (Dave opens a big can of worms  :D)

Nah, they're taking credit for all the ones you won too, cos you have the Union Jack in the corner of your flag.  They would have counted ours too, but we didn't get enough to worry about.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on August 30, 2008, 03:59:53 AM
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Joan x2:  Ah well, your double zero award was the official house builder to West End - so you're already there.  And BIG thanks for the compliment on the video.  I'm assuming your favourite was Dam Square?

David (Simpson) x2:  Good to see you here - thanks.  And yes, West End has many stadiums - probably too many for such a region - but I can't help plopping them  &mmm

Matt x2:  Thanks for your usual detailed comments - I'll be sure to let you know if we need any swordsmen!  As for the video.....since I have had PhotoShop it is much easier to create those effects - glad you liked them.

Arthur x2:  Glad you liked the picture and the video - thanks.

Shaun x3:  I'm glad you liked the award and glad to see you can spot a pic from 2006!  As for the ideas, they'll keep coming, don't worry!  Thanks for the comments re the video and I'll make sure not to be online when we play the All Blacks at Rugby   ()sad()

Bat x2:  I am sure you will grab a double zero here soon bat and thanks for your comments.

Adam:  Wow, thanks indeed for such a compliment.  Truth be told I really enjoy putting the videos together.

Sebes:  I know Kingly will always be a favourite of yours (did you spot the new Replies Banner above?)  And as for a gold medal......us Brits won plenty at the Olympics  ;)

Pat:  Cheers Pat - good to see you here as always.

Maarten:  Thanks.

David (dmscopio):  Welcome to West End.  It's always good to see a new face here.  And yes, Upton Park will take the pride of place amongst all of West End's sporting arenas.  Thanks for your work on it, I will follow it with much interest.

Dave:  LOL, glad you liked the video and yes, Team GB's great performance in Beijing has certainly reignited the Mother Country versus the Convicts sporting debate  :D


UPDATE 58 - 30th August 2008

Since Charing Cross was completed there has been more development.  I showed you a sneak preview of the National Sports Complex in Piccadilly, which is a large quad still under development.  Two other quads have also been completed, so today I will show you Dean which is a small quad with 2,000 residents.

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Here you can see its location in the region.  It sits on the mouth of the Qumma River which runs up through Wardour to the north.  It's also worth noting that Great Portland has been corrupted and will need to be flattened and will be rebuilt.  But that is for another day!


I thought it would be interesting to show you how Dean developed.  Being only a small quad it didn't take too long.


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I know the power plant is a bit big for a tile of this size - but I'd only just downloaded it and could not resist using it!


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It's tough getting that transition right - I don't think it's a bad attempt, but far from perfect!


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It looks as though John Lewis is VERY popular here in Dean!


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The majority of residential houses in Dean are by MattB, Gascooker and RP/Zero7.  The intention was to create a very English looking small town.

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And that is Dean fully developed.  All in all, a nice little town (well I hope so anyway!).


'til next time............ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on August 30, 2008, 04:06:07 AM
"Size doesn't matter, it matters how you use it" as I say. Nice update from Dean  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on August 30, 2008, 08:46:46 AM
Dean is a really nice looking small town there! :thumbsup:
Great work on your 58th update!! Looking forward to the next... ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Sheep49 on August 30, 2008, 09:23:30 AM
Dean is indeed nice town! I'd love to have a house in there.  :D
But the price for the ground in such a peaceful place must be high ::) ;)

I will follow this MD from now on! :thumbsup: I really like the European feel in it!
Piotr
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Schulmanator on August 30, 2008, 09:28:01 AM
I think your water transition is a fine attempt. I need to start taking lessons! &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on August 30, 2008, 09:29:07 AM
realy nice small city  &apls I like the river  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheSixCents on August 30, 2008, 11:26:14 AM
Very good!
I really like how you started from Scratch there. You are improving, and I think this is one of the better cj's in the CJ Universe!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nardo69 on August 30, 2008, 11:48:36 AM
A bit earlier than last time   ;)

Nice update, I always planned such a step-by-step update but never did it - I guess I am too slow for something like this as it takes months untill I think I can put this in my (atm inactive  :'( ) MD ....

I like that ploppable water river including the transition. Stubborn Old fashioned donkey that I am I but recently began to use it with rather ... well ... not presentable results ...

Interesting choice of bridges - especially that wooden street bridge is hard to use in a European background. But there is something I have to nag: the railway goes down and up between the railway bridge and the overpass - it should be (almost) flat there (well, you know me by now ...  :D )

Take care and don't forget to make backups!

Bernhard  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on August 30, 2008, 12:52:28 PM
Paul there was no need to hope that what Dean is that exactly a nice town and I truly enjoyed watching it devolp!!!  I do like the transition that you got from the river to the bay and I cant think of anything that would improve it at all, I cant wait to see what you got for us next!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Albus of Garaway on August 30, 2008, 04:55:43 PM
I felt it necessary that I comment here after you gave me such a wonderful comment in Port Icewater (That really made my day!).

I really love Dean, Paul! It seems like a very wonderful environment. It has a very small town feel, and yet it's not so small that it becomes unsophisticated. On the city-building side of things, I love how you've incorporated a non-grid based transport system.

I also ADORE your transition from ploppable water to in-game water. It looks so natural! Great job, Paul!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on August 30, 2008, 06:20:18 PM
I think you've hit the mark with Dean. I wasn't sure what John Lewis was until I looked it up (it appears to be a store for those of us following from the States) but what can I say, if the market will support it, I say go for it. The breakwater is a nice touch, but I was expecting to see a port/dock to accompnay it. But I guess its priimary purpose it to protect the stream. The transition is pretty good. I have been experimenting by drawing the PW all the way down into the water until it disappears. It has had mixed results and it really helps if the water mod and the PW match a bit. Your transition is quite good though. The left hand side looks a bit better (in my opinion) than the rest and pulls off the transition better. Perhaps it is because the rocks extend back beyond the transition a bit, but great work all around. The school looks good, and what better place to play than right there by the stream? I also second Nardo's thought about the rail line's dip, but unless it is a high speed line I don't think it matters too much, especially considering that the ground could settle overtime, etc. All around, the town looks like a nice little place to live. Great work.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on August 31, 2008, 12:28:50 AM
I love watching a city develop from ground zero. Dean is a nice little town with all the necessities and some scenic areas as well. The river looks great, and I think you did a good job on the transition. Like the breakwater, too, and of course I'm always a sucker for pretty churches!

Very good update, Paul - a refreshing break from the more complex quads.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on August 31, 2008, 04:06:21 AM
You made an excellent little village here Paul. It's nice to watch you creating the quad from start.... so interesting to see how you do that.

Also nice to see the region shot again - I really love looking at it. All cities go so smoothly into each other... making me jealous!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on August 31, 2008, 04:11:34 AM
Great area there Paul, Seems to be a good number of Medium Wealth people there, and a lot of swimming pools for a town so close to a river.  Polution problem?
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on September 01, 2008, 04:43:50 AM
Nice Paul, you are really becoming a master with the TPW. The transistion is a problem yet to be fully solved, but that is certainly one of the better ones I've seen  :thumbsup:

Dean's a nicely balanced town, I like it. As for the soccer pitch, that 'F' word immediately springs to mind  :D

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on September 01, 2008, 11:43:54 AM
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Today is the first anniversary of the West End MD.  It's hard for me to believe this has actually been running for a whole year.  I hope you have enjoyed watching this region grow as much as I have.  I also know that my city building skills have improved loads over this time, mainly due to the help, support and suggestions you have all given me.

I tried to decide how best to mark the occasion and decided a video that looks back over the year would be as good a way as any.  Replies from the last update plus a list of all posters here will form part of the next update.

Thanks for all your support and I hope you have enjoyed the ride.

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'til next time........ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on September 01, 2008, 11:49:16 AM
very good video my friend  &apls I like it a lot  :thumbsup:
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Post by: thundercrack83 on September 01, 2008, 11:57:38 AM
Happy first anniversary, Paul!

And what a wonderful video to celebrate it, my friend! And, it seems that, by no means, is "the ride" over!

Can't wait to see what your second year has in store for us!

Take care!

Dustin
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Post by: MandelSoft on September 01, 2008, 12:18:59 PM
Nice summary of what you did last year!  &apls
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Post by: Jmouse on September 01, 2008, 01:26:23 PM
And what a ride it is, Paul! Omigosh, so many memories and so many favorites here. Each video is better than the last, and the last one was hard to top but you did it! Now I have an anniversary video to come back and watch again and again.

Later...
Joan
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Post by: Albus of Garaway on September 01, 2008, 02:21:27 PM
Wow, Paul! Now that is a perfect example of how much someone can improve, even when they are already great! I seem to have come to West End at the perfect time, because I now know what I've missed. It seems I have a Diary to read this upcoming weekend...!

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Post by: JBSimio on September 01, 2008, 02:29:43 PM
Incredible video, Paul!   :thumbsup:  &apls  :thumbsup:  Happy Anniversary and all that other good stuff, too.  It has indeed been a great ride so far.  I'd ask if we're there yet, but I'd prefer to keep riding for a bit longer if it's all the same to you.  ;)

Once again, I missed a few updates... but I've been instructed not to apologize for that anymore, so I won't.  I really like how Dean came together.  It blends in very well with the surrounding areas.  I also like the region views a lot.  I'm very impressed with the constant back and forth from urban areas into farm land.  It makes for a very interesting look.

I'll be waiting for the next one (I think I finally have the time to do that again for a while!)

Jon
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Post by: bokrif on September 01, 2008, 02:41:18 PM
Dean is just great.
I always love to do little towns and all. You can micromanage it much more than a larger city, however the later has its beauty too.
There is nothing special in Dean and this is the best of it. Only the Qumma River ending there. Two bridges and the town.

Looks average, average West End town, and average here means a lot, as I think creating an average small town which looks definitely great is definitely hard to be done too.
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Post by: threestooges on September 01, 2008, 04:19:31 PM
Happy 1st anniversary my friend. The video was an excellent trip back in time. It really shows how your style has changed and developed and it looks good. Congratulations on your first year, and here's to (hopefully) many more to come.
-Matt
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Post by: Simpson on September 02, 2008, 02:18:00 AM
Hi my friend
Your update 58 is very good, your city is looking superb and your lake very réalistic
And your update 59: very good vidéo  &apls
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Post by: Diggis on September 02, 2008, 05:33:46 AM
I sure did enjoy the ride.  It was great to see some of the places that I missed out on first time round.  And who is that song by?  Great music.  :thumbsup:

Looking forward to the next 12 months.
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Post by: bat on September 02, 2008, 05:55:05 AM
That video is excellent, paroch! Congrats on one year of WEST END! &apls
Looking forward to more in the second year of WEST END!! ;)

(and this should be the 82nd post (it's great to be the second most supporter) here at WEST END!!!) :)
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Post by: dsrwhat316 on September 02, 2008, 01:05:47 PM
Can't remember if I've ever posted here, but I should start! I like the village of Dean; it has a quaint, cozy feel to it. The transition from plop water to in-game water is fantastic; that must've taken quite a bit of time and patience. Very nice work!

~ Dan
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Post by: sebes on September 02, 2008, 02:03:00 PM
Incredible, that video that you made. So many nice sights of West End, and so many good memories comming by. I enjoyed watching it so much.

&apls
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Post by: tooheys on September 03, 2008, 03:52:32 AM
You mean it's been one year since I started to teach you (well tried) that the world was flat  $%Grinno$%

You've come a long way in 12mths Paul, and it's been a pleasure to be along for the ride. West End started well and just got better and better as time progressed. Turning Dutch was one of your finest moments, the use of custom content and canal work really stood out.

And as well as West End, you discovered LE, released on the LEX and co-founded a team. Quite a journey over such a short period.

What is next, perhaps BAT. Learning on a laptop in a pub with a pint in hand should make that a challenge and a half  ;D

And that footy pitch in the last update, punishment for a year of nagging  :D

Cheers my friend

Dave
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Post by: warconstruct on September 03, 2008, 12:16:22 PM
hello my friend, splendid video! excuse me if I am much less present qu' front but I am very taken by my work, I like always as much visited your Paul city !

With each new update, I delighted in advances!!

Héhé , Paul ...
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Post by: paroch on September 07, 2008, 12:44:57 PM
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OK, replies from the last two updates here.... Dean and the Anniversary video.

Maarten x 2:  Hehehe, yes, indeed!  And thanks for your support.

Bat
x2:  Thanks for the compliment.  And thanks for being such a big supporter of West End.

Piotr:  Welcome to West End - you arrived just in time for the first anniversary.  Yes, I think Dean has high property prices, especially by the river.

Schulmanator:  Thanks - and as for taking lessons, my approach is very much "try it and see what happens".

Arthur x2:  Thank you, and yes, I like the river too!  And I'm happy you liked the video.

SixCents:  Good to see you over here.  And thanks for the big compliment - thanks.

Bernhard
:  Great comments thank.  As for the TPW, I think the key to making it look good is to use plenty of rocks, trees, grass, flora etc around the edges.  And yes I'd not used the wooden bridge before.  And I know you are right about the railway and the "dip".  I think you are basing your smooth rails on the German railways and not the English ones  ;)

Pat:  Cheers my friend.  I'm glad you enjoyed the development.

Albus x2:  Welcome to West End.  Hey with great comments like that you can drop in anytime!!

Matt
x2:  Thanks as always.  Yes, John Lewis is a department store.  I'm sure it's a gascooker bat.  I guess the conditions were just right for it.  I appreciated your comments re the TPW - I use the Brigantine water mod, and needless to say will not be changing it now!  And yes, with the breakwater, I did think of making a little marina behind it - but chose not to in the end.  And I have a feeling there is at least a year's worth of development left in West End.  Whether it will all be up to display standards remains to be seen.

Joan
x2:  Your comment "a break from complex quads" was just how I felt with Dean.  Following Kingly and Charing Cross it was somewhat less demanding!  And thanks for the compliment about the video.  Funnily the very first one (Kingly and Amsterdam) is still my favourite!

Sebes
x2:  Well, I guess I should take your jealousy as a compliment!  The more I develop West End, the more conscious I am of the region view.  I hope to make it a really good one.  And thanks for your comments on the video.  I have a feeling there will be more for you to watch in future.

Shaun x2:  Ha.  Yes well I guess I should blame MattB about those pools!  I think maybe the pools have less weed in them!  As for the video song....yet another one by Morcheeba, called Enjoy The Ride.  Their music fits so well for videos - used three now!

Dave x2:  When I placed that footie pitch I knew you'd comment!  It was a play off between messing up the river bank or levelling a large area.  But as I tell you, West End, is just built on undulating terrain, the locals are used to the humps and bumps now!!  And trust you to post after I'd made the video but before I realeased it, so that the numbers were just one out!!  And yes, you've been trying to flatten me for 12 months!!  Thnaks for being one of the posters who have been here for the whole time.  And yes, there have been some stand-outs during the year - I think you got most of them.

Dustin:  Thanks.  I have to admit, the second year is a bit daunting.  I really don't want West End to get too samey.  Trying to decide what to do next is not easy!

Jon
:  Hehehe, great to see you here.  Thanks for the comments and when I get a compliment about region view from the man who created Covington then I am happy.

Krizstian
:  Hey thanks, I appreciate those words - I know exactly what you mean.

David
:  Thank you.

Dan:  Welcome to West End, good to see you here.  The TPW doesn't take as long as you might imagine.  Just the odd change as you go along.

Paul:  Thank you, it's always good to see you here - I know RL can make it difficult at times.


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It's you, the people who post here in West End that keep me going with this MD.  Those of you who have your own MD will know what I mean when I say that I enjoying finding new comments here.  So, to recognise you all, here is a list of who has posted here - counts are correct up to the Anniversary video.....

1 - Jmouse                 88
2 - Bat                      81
3 - Sebes                  63
4 - Pat                      39
5 - Tooheys               38
6 - thundercrack83      33
7 - Ennedi                  25
8 - TheTeaCat            20
8 - Capo                    20
10 - Diggis                 19
10 - nedalezz             19
12 - Bokrif                 17
13 - Nardo69              16
14 - mrtnrln                15
15 - rooker1               13
16 - threestooges       11
16 - Simpson              11
16 - warconstruct       11
19 - tkirch                   8
20 - JBSimio                 7
20 - Warszawa             7
20 - FrankU                 7

6 Posts:  Panthersimcity,

5 Posts:  Sober, MattB325,

4 Posts:  Suplado, Earthquake, Art128,

3 Posts:  NASCAR Guy, Heblem, Squidi, Callbat, Vester, Schulmanator,

2 Posts: JMyers2043, Madeira, Shadow Assassin, Dedgren, TopCliff, ejc, Giligone, Nova Vesfalo, Zero7, Penguin007, Scopio,

1 Post:  Pavle, Szymcar, Silur, Antoine, Starmanw402007, Amapper, Fatsuhono, Catty, Nerdly_dood, Fledder200, Patricius Maximus, Freedo50, Jeronij, Doctor Soul, Masochist, Deion30296, Caspervg, Yoman, Maestro444, pagenotfound, XoX, dmscopio, Sheep49, TheSixCents, Albus of Garaway.

Thank you to each and every one of you - each post is appreciated.


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OK, after all that..... Time for the update.  Not a very big one today, but a sporty one!

It's time to announce another West End sporting event.  Much like the Devo 08 football tournament mirrored the real life Euro 08 tournament, I'd like to invite you all to participate in the Continental Cup:

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This is a golf competition that will mirror the real life Ryder Cup that is due to take place from 19th to 21st September this year.  For those that don't know, it is a golf competition between Europe and the USA.  Here at West End it is open to all MD authors.  You can chose which team to be on, Europe or USA.  I'd suggest that if your MD is based in Europe you join the European side and if your MD is based in North America you join the USA side.  All other MDs - well just take your pick.

Each team is made up of 12 golfers.  I'm really not sure how popular this will be, so each MD can have up to three golfers in the team.  Just let me know which golfers represent your MD.  I'll operate it on a first come first served basis.

The event will take place at the Piccadilly Links Golf Club in Piccadilly, West End.

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The teams are made up as follows:

Europe                                      USA
Paul Casey  (West End)                  Phil Mickelson
Sergio Garcia                                Stewart Cink
Soren Hansen                               Kenny Perry
Padraig Harrington                         Jim Furyk
Miguel Angel Jiminez                      Anthony Kim
Robert Karlsson                            Justin Leonard
Graeme McDowell                          Ben Curtis
Ian Poulter                                   Boo Weekley
Justin Rose                                  Chad Campbell
Henrik Stenson                             J.B.Holmes
Lee Westwood  (West End)            Hunter Mahan
Oliver Wilson                                Steve Stricker

So, if you'd like to participate in the Continental Cup, just post here and say which golfers you'd like to represent your region/nation.  You'll see West End has already got two golfers in the list.



And the other sports news from West End is that the national rugby team have applied for entry to the Sim Sports 12 Nations Competition.  Here are some pics of the rugby stadium.

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The stadium is based in the Piccanham suburb of Piccadilly.

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Rugby is not as high profile as football in West End, so the stadium does not have the same level of funding available to it.  This ground holds 8,250 and is made using mainly Chris Adams great props he recently released - thanks Chris if you're reading.

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And here is an overview of Piccadilly as it stands.  As you can see it is a very sports oriented city.

Well, I hope you enjoyed this sporty update and I hope you enter a golfer or two or three in the Continental Cup.  Needless to say I'll be giving updates over the weekend of the competition.

'til next time............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%


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Post by: Simpson on September 07, 2008, 12:56:53 PM
Hi Paroch your xity is looking so beautiful as well
The golf is just super  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Diggis on September 07, 2008, 01:35:26 PM
Wow, 10th on the list and only started commenting in Kingsly.  Guess I must talk too much.  ::)

Let me know if you need some golfers, I'm sure some of the european team have ties to Watersford.  They've got a good resort to practice at there. 

Looking forward to taking you on in the Rugby.  Will be a tough match against the All Blacks.
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Post by: JBSimio on September 07, 2008, 07:04:15 PM
A very sports oriented city, indeed... it looks great so far!   &apls  I really like the placement of the golf course along the water there.  I'm also intrigued by the industrial area smack in the middle.  I imagine you'll be showing more of that later?  (I hope anyway...  :) )  The various arenas and sport complexes seem to be clustered in some attractive groups, and yet still spread around quite nicely.

Covington would love to participate for Team USA in the Continental Cup.  I'm not entirely sure how they would fare, given the fact that there is no course on which to practice anywhere in the entire county!  In fact, the esteemed, albeit poorly dressed, mayor of Covington doesn't even know enough about the sport to make an intelligent decision about which players to send.  If you don't mind picking one or two for him, I have it on good authority that he won't argue.  I think he just wants to feel like he's part of something anyway.  ;)

I also notice you've been toying with a few new goodies in Piccadilly!   :o  I'm really looking forward to more of the area to see what you've come up with.  I trust there haven't been any problems so far?

Perhaps I should start talking a little more... but I'll do that next time!  :D

JB
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Post by: Jmouse on September 07, 2008, 11:42:37 PM
Since I last played golf at age 13 and have no idea how rugby or Euro football is played, I'm at a bit of a loss to comment this time around. I can see the various facilities are well placed, though, and I appreciate the overview as a way to find my way around town. Hope you'll understand if I dip a fishhook in the bay instead of watching the games though - where I come from, fishing is a very popular sport you know!

Good luck in the tourney...
Joan
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Post by: thundercrack83 on September 07, 2008, 11:45:38 PM
Put the United "Stats" of SC4D for the Continental Cup, too!

Do we pick our own golfers or is it random?

EDIT: Hey, Paul! Put me down for Phil Mickelson (left-handed like me) and Jim Furyk (from Pennsylvania like me)!
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Post by: threestooges on September 08, 2008, 12:32:23 AM
You're making me wish I had an MD (a good thing and a bad thing...) so I could send some golfers. I play it more than I watch it, but that looks like it'll be a good tournament and your links look good, especially that green by the water in the last pic. As far as showing development goes, if you're the one doing it, I'm sure it will be worth showing. I don't know much about rugby, but that stadium looks pretty good. The parking area is nice too (though it looks a bit small for the 8,250 capacity). Good work on this update, great idea with the golf tournament, and I'll look forward to the next update. It's late now so I may come back and add more, but until next time, take it easy.
-Matt
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Post by: Diggis on September 08, 2008, 12:51:38 AM
Quote from: threestooges on September 08, 2008, 12:32:23 AM
The parking area is nice too (though it looks a bit small for the 8,250 capacity).

Thats cos we tend to walk to the games so we can drink more.  :D  (actually in NZ that is largely true, parking around stadiums is very rare.
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Post by: MandelSoft on September 08, 2008, 03:03:17 AM
Aahhh, Picadilly is nice and green. (and eh... pick one golfer from Europe who's representing Imaginia  ;))
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Post by: bat on September 08, 2008, 08:43:37 AM
Nice update there!!
Like the pictures of the golf course and rugby stadium (congrats for your team...)

and you can also pick one (or two or three) golfers from Europe who are representing the NATION OF CAPPORTH CITY...
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Post by: art128 on September 08, 2008, 08:57:40 AM
just a sublime update  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Earth quake on September 12, 2008, 12:07:04 PM
Wow, splendid update my friends, really splendid.
You are the best of Suburbs.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: dsrwhat316 on September 12, 2008, 01:20:20 PM
A short update, but a very good one! That rugby stadium is interesting, using a couple of Maxis buildings in the structure. Is it your creation? The overview of the sports ground is impressive, as well. Great work!

~ Dan
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Post by: paroch on September 13, 2008, 10:04:38 AM
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David:  Thanks.  And if Kaikoura wants a golfer in the team just let me know.

Shaun x2:  Hahaha, nah you don't talk too much mate!  Seeing as you live in London, I think you're an adopted European!  So I've entered a couple from Watersford.  And yes, the rugby will be fun (and congrats on the result for NZ earlier, I'm sure you had a few tinnies).

Jon:  I just can't help myself with the sports stadiums and tracks etc.  Hopefully they make some kind of sense.  As for the industrial park - whilst in the middle of the tile, it's not really the middle of the city.  To the north and west is the bulk of Piccadilly.  To the south are some low rise suburbs and to the west is a more rural part.  Truth is, that as the city was growing it really needed Industrial jobs not too far away!!  And I wanted to create a seaside golf course - hence the placement.

I've put in a couple of golfers for you - chosen at total random - although I wondered if Boo Weekley was some sort of magazine about ghosts ;)  And this update features some of those new toys you spotted.

Joan:  Nice CML there Joan.  And no worries about fishing - hope you catch a big 'un.

Dustin:  'Tis done, made the selections.  Hopefully it'll be a good event.

Matt:  Following the PM, you'll see that two golfers from your soon to be released MD Greenacr have made an appearance.  And as for the parking.....Shaun is spot on.  Many of the older or city centre stadiums in England have little or no parking.  For example, my club (West Ham) have a stadium of 35,000 but the car park holds about 100 cars!  It is surrounded by housing, so needless to say the side streets get busy on match days.

Maarten:  I hope you don't mind, I picked two golfers for Imaginia.

Bat:  I've selected two golfers for you Bat, if still slots left at the end I'll choose another for you.

Arthur:  Gee, thanks.

Earth Quake:  Hey, thanks for that great compliment.

Dan:  Yes, the rugby stadium is a lot I created.  I wanted something kind of small and intimate, with the crowd almost on the pitch.  And yes in pic 60.03 all the front of the stadium is made of Maxis buildings, a small commercial in the two corners, and an industrial warehouse all along the front.  I'm glad you liked it.


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We've had some interest so far but there are still places available for you to enter a couple of golfers to represent your region in the Continental Cup.  This is a golf competition from 19th to 21st September between Europe and the USA.  Just post here to let me know which golfers are representing your MD.

The teams are made up as follows:

Europe
Paul Casey  (West End)
Sergio Garcia  (Capporth City)
Soren Hansen  (Imaginia)
Padraig Harrington  (Watersford)
Miguel Angel Jimenez  (Watersford)
Robert Carlson  (Imagina)
Graeme McDowell
Ian Poulter
Justin Rose
Henrik Stenson  (Capporth City)
Lee Westwood  (West End)
Oliver Wilson


USA
Phil Mickelson  (United Stats of SC4D)
Stewart Cink
Kenny Perry  (Greenacre)
Jim Furyk  (United Stats of SC4D)
Anthony Kim
Justin Leonard  (Covington)
Ben Curtis
Boo Weekley  (Covington)
Chad Campbell
J.B.Holmes  (Greenacre)
Hunter Mahan
Steve Stricker


And now to the update.................

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The city of Piccadilly is pretty much fully completed now.  It has a population of 134,000 and is a mixture of high rise apartments which are mainly in the Central, Bay and Reaytown areas and low rise suburbs scattered around the edges.  Once you cross the motorway, things turn rural pretty quickly, with the River Calidigg and farms. 

You'll see that there is a large peninsular that has not yet been developed.  And I will do with it whatever you, my dear West End readers, suggest. 

Maybe this should be a large nature reserve. 
Maybe it should be a sprawling low rise suburb. 
Maybe it could have high rise residentials on the waters edge and high rise commercials in the middle.
Maybe it could be a large park.
Or maybe you have a better idea.

I'd really like to hear what you think should happen with it.

As JB Simio noticed, there were a few new things in Piccadilly, so I thought I'd show you what new toys I've been playing with in the rest of this update..........


I wanted to create a river/canal down from the top of the quad.  I've used TPW loads recently, so used some of the water/canal I'd not used before, and here's the result.
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And I've had the SG Irrigation canals/ditches for some time but again just had not used them.  I think they add a nice look to the farms and are not too obtrusive.
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And now back to the SG-CAL canal.  I just liked the way the motel grew on this corner, thought it looked quite good there.
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And this aquaduct is nice - I'm sure it's meant to be used higher up, but I liked it here anyway.
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I thought it was time to actually use the functional ports instead of the eye candy stuff I've used in the past.
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And here is the functional airport shuttle.  I placed a bus station, tram and monorail station nearby.  And whilst I've used monorails in the past, this is the first time it's been used in West End.
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Again, a first appearance in West End.
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And here's another look at that empty piece of land I'm wondering what to do with next.
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And this shot of the eastern part of West End shows what my next plans are. 
1- I want to build the new International Airport for West End in Carnaby.  This will then enable me to....
2- Demolish Great Portland.  This is where the old airport is.  But it's too surrounded by development, but because the quad is corrupted and cannot be opened it needs to be flattened!
3- Build the two new medium sized farming quads - that should finish that section off nicely.
4- I can't decide whether to trash Regent and start again.  The quad is corrupted and locked.  But I hate the way the beach ruins the region view!  Maybe I'd get rid of the big island and Regent could also have a large port.
5- Oxford is also corrupted and locked, and it's nowhere near finished.  As it's the capital of West End it does need to be re-done.  I think I'll rename it New Oxford.
6- And then there's still loads more quads!


I hope you've enjoyed this update and don't forget to enter your golfers in the Continental Cup.

'til next time............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on September 13, 2008, 10:28:50 AM
Hey Paul!

I like the update (this time you gave a lot of attention to the canals). And I see you have picked two golfers for me :) and you have some future plans for West End. Great update.

By the way, I have two ideas for the Penisular:
1. Why not making it a combination of a low-rise area and a park? It would be a great large green area, and a nice place to live.
2. An university and a sport complex mixed together

Best,
Maarten
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on September 13, 2008, 10:44:52 AM
very n iced update  &apls I realy like how you use the Canal transition  &apls
and good luck for rebuilding  :thumbsup:
I realy love the canal bridge over the railroad  &apls good work  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on September 13, 2008, 10:38:29 PM
A fine job you've done with the JPN walls and Diggis water. I like the areas along the banks, too - the nicer homes and yards are always near the water. The canal looks good in game, too, although it's something I've never seen in RL.

Never seen irrigation canals from above either,
but they add a nice touch to your already good-looking farms. Wonder what's growing in those strange grey pods, though. IMO, the functional seaport is a bit too close to the neighborhood, or maybe it's the other way around! But that's just my old memories of living in Houston. I didn't live anywhere near the ship channel, but I used to see some pretty grim scenery on trips past that area.

You'll just have to explain to me how the facilities in 61.10 work - I'm lost, but must say it's a pretty photo! :) Now cruise ships I can identify with and the whole setup looks great - the red building is a bit jarring, but that's just a matter of personal taste.

As for the peninsular,
it would be prime development property in RL, and a look back at the overview (61.01), indicates a natural progression of mid-high rises in that direction.  That isn't to say I like commercial encroachment - I'd much rather see a nice big park and maybe even a zoo. It would be a delightful place to spend the day, and a paddle boat concession on that little spur about halfway down the shore would be great. I'm afraid using the entire land mass as a "playground" would look unnatural, though, so is there a possibility of compromise? BTW if you decide to add a zoo, be sure to note the direction of the prevailing winds before placing it. ;)

Great job on this update as usual,
but it looks like you've cut out a lot of work for yourself in the weeks/months to come. I've never seen an MDer destroy cities and rebuild them in full view of an audience before, but it sounds like a fascinating idea. I think you're more innovative than you give yourself credit for!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on September 14, 2008, 12:34:11 AM
Glad I gave my top 4 choices. Greenacre will be happy to participate in the tournament, however, it wasn't expecting public announcement so soon (oh well, never know what is in store). As far as the parking goes, living in Southern California means everyone (mostly) drives everywhere. Take a look at the google map view of Angel Stadium in Anaheim. The parking lot is huge, though it does have a rail station too. Interestingly, and I wonder how it will work, California is working toward implementing a high speed rail network for the state, and I forsee rails becoming a bigger part of mass transit around here.

The River Calidigg looks great. TPW has its advantages, but for the more urban/developed areas, these things work quite well. The irrigation canals are a nice touch too. I like it when pics like 61.07 set themselves up. For some reason they seem to turn out better for me than ones that I plan for. Great use of the acqueduct in 61.08. I know it can be used higher up, but the way you've used it here is great. The seaport is small but tasteful, and the airport shuttle is a good use of that developing lot thing. I was thinking that the peninsular area might be used for a small, commuter/private airport, but from the looks of things, the international is close enough to handle that. I suggest making a recreational harbor on the southern part of it, from the current ferry dock to the little outcrop, make the area from there out to the point into a nature preserve, perhaps with some trails, plenty of brush, flowers, etc, with a parking lot or two to let people from outside the area take a break too. Maybe incorporate a small bit of an historic element, like a lighthouse or something.

It looks like you have some great plans in store for West End. I'll be looking forward to seeing them come to fruition. Great work, and take it easy.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: dsrwhat316 on September 14, 2008, 07:10:06 AM
A very thorough update, Paul! I also like that motel on the canal corner, the way the building is positioned makes for great views. That tower in the cruise ship terminal shot is interesting; what's the name of that BAT? I'd like to use it myself. It'll be interesting to see how you develop The Peninsular. Nice work, my friend!

~ Dan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on September 14, 2008, 01:48:42 PM
Hi my friend ;)
This new update is very fine
The général pic is super and very réalistic. Your city is looking very good  :thumbsup:

I'm also ok for the the golfer  ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on September 19, 2008, 10:52:21 AM
I like Picadilly.

The canal viaduct or aquaduct is definitely a cool idea. However I might raise the question, why didn't the railway planners plan a much easier bridge over the canals instead of making a canal bridge? ;)
I like it anyways.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on September 20, 2008, 12:45:59 AM
Great work there on that canal and area!
Wonderful new update and pictures...
Looking forward to more... :)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on September 20, 2008, 01:12:24 AM
Arrrrgggg, no development...  :angrymore: that penisular is perfect for a park, or botanical garden.  Check out Sydney's beside the opera house.  Exactly what it reminds be of.

Great use of the various waterways there.  Although remind me to check which train uses that line under the aqueduct.  I am so NOT catching that line. 'Duck!'

You should be able to use terraformer to reset your tiles so that you don't lose the terrain, although not sure how they deal with corrupt saves.

Great update, and look forward to seeing your botanical gardens what you choose to do on that peninsula.  ???
Title: Re: WEST END
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Maarten:  Thanks for the suggestions for the peninsular.  Number 1 is certainly under consideration - but Piccadilly already has a university and enough sports!  You'll see those soon.

Arthur:  I hope you don't mind, as a regular European visitor here I put two golfers in the team from Maroenestra!  And thanks for the comments.

Joan:  Hey, thanks for the detailed comments.  After Kingly, I enjoy playing with the canals and here wanted to try a different approach.  And yes that grey pool is my attempt at the transition from the CAL/SG canal to the SG Irrigation system!  As for the BSC Port......it upgrades automatically and this is the "city centre" port.  So those GasCooker terraces are (I suppose) meant to be the dockers' homes.  The port is still only a stage 2 port, so in a future upgrade the houses will disappear and be replaced by whatever goodies Barby and the crew put there (I'm guessing warehouses!!)

As for the Airport Shuttle - again it upgrades.  It's real function is to allow the city to have an "airport" without it messing up the region view (not every tile would have an airport in RL).  My idea is that by placing the monorail next to the airport shuttle lot, passengers would check in at the airport shuttle and then board the monorail which will be connected to the new airport being developed next door in Carnaby.  Maybe in the proper update I'll label the picture.

Thanks for the ideas for the peninsular and yes, I agree with your thinking.  I guess I'll end up trying to incorporate a bit of everything!!  And I know I've set myself a big schedule of works there!  Oh and Joan, I hope you didn't mind me resurrecting WJ and including two golfers!!

Matt:  Another great and helpful comment.  Yes, UK and US stadiums are different.  But many of our top football stadiums have been in the same location for 100 years.  In other words, the town/city has built around them in days when cars were not widespread.  The result is stadiums packed in and surrounded by residentials.  Some of the new stadiums being built tend to be on the edge of town, maybe in a retail park/leisure complex, so there is plenty of parking (Bolton, Derby and Coventry spring to mind).  I'm off to football today and we'll park the car outside someone's house and then walk about 20 minutes to the stadium.

And yes that pic with the motel was not planned - sometimes the "right" thing just grows!  Thanks for your suggestions for the peninsular, the waterfront recreation area is spot on and will definitely be part of it.  And hopefully the future plans will work out!

Dan:  Good to see you here again.  I will catch up with The Source, just not been on line much this week.  Per our PMs The Source now has two players in the team.  Thanks for your comments and which tower do you mean?  The red one (Cookie Corp on STEX), the odd shaped one (by Ill Tonkso on STEX but the name escapes me I'll dig it out), or one of the others?

David:  Thanks for your comment and thanks for entering the golf competition.

Krizstian:  Always good when you drop by.  The honest answer is that I just wanted to use the viaduct!!  I know it's not quite right there, but hey, sometimes I just can't help myself!!

Bat::  Thanks for stopping by and your comments.

Shaun:  Hmmm, botanical gardens could be a good idea.  So many ideas have been floated here, I'll now have to draw up a plan of works and see if I can keep everyone happy!!  And that rail line is the one that connects Watersford & West End!!!


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No "proper" update today, just an update on the golf.  I'm hoping to deliver a real update tomorrow.....

The final teams are made up as follows:

Europe
Paul Casey  (West End)
Sergio Garcia  (Capporth City)
Soren Hansen  (Imaginia)
Padraig Harrington  (Watersford)
Miguel Angel Jimenez  (Watersford)
Robert Karlson  (Imagina)
Graeme McDowell  (Maroenestra)
Ian Poulter  (Kaikoura)
Justin Rose  (Kaikoura)
Henrik Stenson  (Capporth City)
Lee Westwood  (West End)
Oliver Wilson  (Maroenestra)


USA
Phil Mickelson  (United Stats of SC4D)
Stewart Cink  (The Source)
Kenny Perry  (Greenacre)
Jim Furyk  (United Stats of SC4D)
Anthony Kim  (Greenacre)
Justin Leonard  (Covington)
Ben Curtis  (The Source)
Boo Weekley  (Covington)
Chad Campbell  (Wildcat Junction)
J.B.Holmes  (Greenacre)
Hunter Mahan  (Wildcat Junction)
Steve Stricker  (United Stats of SC4D)

I had to choose a couple more American entrants at random.


Well Europe went into the tournament as favourites, but the day one pairings didn't go according to the form book.....

The United States will take a 5½-2½ lead into day two of the Continetal Cup after dominating Europe on the opening day at Piccadilly Links.

Leading 3-1 after the foursomes, the Americans won two of the four afternoon fourball matches.

Hunter Mahan (Wildcat Junction) and Justin Leonard (Covington) had two wins while Phil Mickelson (United Stats) and Anthony Kim (Greenacre) claimed a win and a half despite being behind in their two matches.

Ian Poulter and Justin Rose's (both Kaikoura) fourball triumph was Europe's only victory.

However, as the opening day drew to a close, Lee Westwood (West End) and Imaginia's Soren Hansen did give Europe a lift with a hard-earned half against JB Holmes (Greenacre) and Boo Weekley (Covington) after winning the final hole.

It was a day where some of Europe's big guns failed to shine, Capporth City's Sergio Garcia and three-time major winner Padraig Harrington (Watersford) claiming just a half each from their two matches.

The Europe team must now quickly regroup after a day which saw them squander leading positions in both sessions.

Full results:

FRIDAY FOURSOMES - USA 3-1 EUROPE

P Mickelson (United Stats)      halved       P Harrington (Watersford)
And A Kim (Greenacre)                           and R Carlson (Imaginia)

J Leonard (Covington)             beat          H Stenson (Capporth City)
And H Mahan (Wilcat J)                          and P Casey (West End)

S Cink (The Source)                  beat          J Rose (Kaikoura)
And C Campbell (Wildcat J)                     and I Poulter (Kaikoura)

K Perry (Greenacre)                 halved       L Westwood (West End)
And J Furyk (United Stats)                   and S Garcia (Capport City)


FRIDAY FOURBALLS - USA 2½-1½ EUROPE
P Mickelson (Unied Stats)     beat        P Harrington (Watersford)
and A Kim (Greenacre)                       and G McDowell (Manoestra)      

S Stricker (United Stats)        lost to    I Poulter (Kaikoura)
And B Curtis (The Source)                  and J Rose (Kaikoura)

J Leonard (Covington)           beat         S Garcia (Capporth City)
And H Mahan (Wildcat J)                     and MA Jimenez (Watersford)

JB Holmes (Greenacre)          halved      L Westwood (West End)
And B Weekley (Covington)                  and S Hansen (Imaginia)

OVERALL SCORE - USA 5 ½ - 2 ½ EUROPE

There are eight more matches today and then 12 singles tomorrow.  So despite the USA's lead, it's all still to play for.


'til next time.............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on September 20, 2008, 04:22:23 AM
Lol nice work here  ;D

EDIT and also congrats for having 800 posts in your great MD my friend
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Sheep49 on September 20, 2008, 04:25:42 AM
Great work, Paul!  ;D
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on September 20, 2008, 05:13:33 AM
spendid work my friend !

Paul
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on September 20, 2008, 05:57:36 AM
nice work my friend  :thumbsup:
but it's not Maroenestra but Maroanestra  ;) :P
EDIT => Oh 801 posts  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on September 20, 2008, 11:59:21 AM
Paul, Hooter is sorry he couldn't be here in person but he's busy putting together the deal of a lifetime. However, he did ask me to tell you he's delighted to hear Wildcat Junction is participating in the tournament. He sent his best players, but I don't have to tell you that - just take a look at the stats! ;D

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on September 20, 2008, 12:03:49 PM
Well the Continental Cup is off to a smashing start so far--I'm happy with things at this point!

And a big congratulations to WEST END and to you, Paul, for being our third MD here at SC4Devotion to reach 800 comments! AntigOne, Blackwater (with Islas Gemas), and now WEST END, that's a pretty good group to join, to say the least! Many congrats to you, my friend--you definitely deserve it!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on September 20, 2008, 01:16:10 PM
Hey paul congrats on hitting 800 replies and also the cup looks like its off to great runn!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: dsrwhat316 on September 21, 2008, 05:55:34 AM
Sorry for not being thorough with my description; I was referring to the tower with the two "sails" coming off the sides with the pointed top, just to the left of the cruise ship terminal.

Now onto the (golf) update!

Nice to see The Source represented here. I'll have to follow this a little more closely now  :thumbsup: And congrats on reaching 800 replies, that's quite a milestone! We'll be waiting for that update soon!

~ Dan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on September 21, 2008, 07:28:17 AM
Hi all, in my haste to get this update out before the next day's play at the Continental Cup I'm short of time for replies.  They will follow soon, don't worry!  All I'll say in the meantime, is thanks for taking part and for following the action.  I'm hoping to catch much of the action on TV or radio later.

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OK, so the second day of golf is completed and the players are getting ready for the final day very soon.  Europe have pulled back a point to leave the match finely balanced, with a 9-7 lead to the USA.  The first team to reach 14 ½ points wins, although Europe only need 14 points to retain the trophy.

Scores from Saturday's matches as follows:

SATURDAY FOURSOMES - USA 1½-2½ EUROPE

S Cink (The Source)            lost to            I Poulter (Kaikoura)
And C Campbell (Wildcat J)                    and J Rose (Kaikoura)

J Leonard (Covington)        halved           MA Jimenez (Watersford)
And H Mahan (Wildcat J)                               and G McDowell (Maroanestra)

P Mickelson (United Stats)   lost to           H Stenson (Capporth City)
And A Kim (Greenacre)                            and O Wilson (Maroanestra)

J Furyk (United Stats)            beat             P Harrington (Watersford)
And K Perry (Greenacre)                          and R Karlson (Imaginia)


SATURDAY FOURBALLS - USA 2-2 EUROPE

B Weekley (Covington)          beat            L Westwood (West End)
And JB Holmes (Greenacre)                     and S Hansen (Imaginia)

B Curtis (The Source)              halved       S Garcia (Capporth City)
And S Stricker (United Stats)                    and P Casey (West End)

K Perry (Greenacre)                  lost to        I Poulter (Kaikoura)
And J Furyk (United Stats)                         and G McDowell (Manoanestra)

P Mickelson (United Stats)        halved       H Stenson (Capporth City)
H Mahan (Wildcat J)                                  and R Carlson (Imaginia)


OVERALL SCORE -  USA 9-7 EUROPE


My plan is to deliver a full update together with the final scores either late tonight, or early tomorrow morning.  Needless to say, I am hoping for the European MDs to put in a great performance.  The USA MDs have their big hitters playing in the early matches whereas Europe have saved theirs til late on in the order.  I'm sure it's going to be a close call.

'til later on............... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on September 21, 2008, 07:38:19 AM
Wow  another great work  &apls but How is the winner  :P $%Grinno$% .......
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on September 21, 2008, 10:07:11 AM
Paul those rounds seemed to have been a good one and your such a tease lol.... Did you learn that from Dave per chance heheheehe....
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on September 21, 2008, 11:43:04 AM
Way to go Perry (up 2 as I type this... and Kim is up 3, and Holmes is hanging in there at +1). If they keep this up, I may have to look into construction of a new clubhouse in celebration. If not, I'll have to look into who's been taking their golf cart for doughnuts on the green instead of practicing (heh heh). Quite a few of the pairings are really close right now, but we'll see.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Fatsuhono on September 21, 2008, 12:44:18 PM
I love these new picture Paroch! This is a great MD, keep it up my friend! :)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on September 21, 2008, 03:01:48 PM
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David:  Thanks - it's only because of people like you who post here that West End has broken the 800 barrier, so thank you.

Piotr:  Hey thanks.

Paul:  Wow, you have made the 800th comment - thank you.  A double zero award will be coming your way soon!

Arthur x2:  Ooops, I have spelt it correctly now.

Joan:  Hehehe indeed.  Well as I type this the final set of matches are underway and it's looking good for the USA.  Your golfers play one from West End and one from Watersford today, so anything can happen!

Dustin:  Well, it's looking good for USA so far.  As I type this you have a good lead.  But I'm still hopeful we can turn things around.  And yes, I'm aware just what a mile stone West End has reached and the company it's with.  I'm not naive enough to think West End delivers the same draw dropping quality, but hopefully it's a fun place to hang out!!  And thanks for being one of West End's biggest supporters.

Pat x2:  Hey Pat good to seeya.  And I should have included New Castia in the line up - I am sorry.  And yes, wow 800 posts!  I'm well pleased.  As for teasing, well, I am typing this update as the action continues so who knows what will happen!?

Dan:  I see a player from The Source is matched up with one of West End's finest.  Remember to be kind to your hosts!!  Here's the  linkie  (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=20022) to Ill Tonkso's Spinnaker Tower.

Matt:  I'm listening to the match here and it's starting to look a little closer.  I think the Americans just have the edge though.  But certainly an exciting one.

Fatsuhono:  Welcome to West End!  Good to see you here and thanks for your great comment.


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Today's update will show you around the Piccadilly Links golf course and also give you the scores of each match.  Going into the final day's 12 singles matches the score is USA 9-7 Europe.

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The first team to reach 14 ½ points wins the competition.  But Europe (as holders) only need to reach 14 points to retain the trophy.

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Here is an overview of the course, with the hole numbers marked on it for easy reference.

And the first match today is between Anthony Kim (Greenacre) v Sergio Garcia (Capporth City)
So Matt and Bat get us underway.
This match was very one sided, with Kim dominating from the start.  Kim wins by 5 & 4.
USA 10 - 7 EUROPE


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The course starts with two par three holes, which is a bit unusual for a major golf course, but hey it gives chances for early birdies.  And hole 3 is a standard par 4.

The second match is between Hunter Mahan (Wildcat Junction) v Paul Casey (West End).
NUTs team mates Joan and Yours Truly slug it out, club to club!
And this was a much tighter match, with the lead changing.  It was all square going onto the 17th, but an amazing 40 foot putt from the Wildcat Junction golfer meant he went to the last hole one up.  But he had a nightmare of a first drive which let Casey in to win the hole and half the match.

USA 10 ½ - 7 ½ EUROPE


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The fourth is the first hole where you get near to the water and is another par 4.  You can try to go over the pond, or go for the safer but longer route around it.  And the fifth hole is another short par 3.  A nice feature here is that the two greens back onto each other.

Our third match today is between Justin Leonard (Covington) v Robert Karlsson (Imaginia).
So Jon (JBSimio) is up against Maarten. 
Karlsson played some of the best golf he's ever produced and the result was never really in doubt.  Karlsson won by 5 & 3.

USA 10 ½ - 8 ½ EUROPE

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The sixth hole features a pond nestled close to the green - I can tell you that it has claimed plenty of balls over the years!  And the seventh is a challenge when the wind picks up.  Don't over hit your approach shot or you'll end up on the beach!  And then the first of the long par fives is the eighth.  You need to hit your tee shot as hard as you can here.

The fourth match today is Phil Mickelson (United Stats) v Justin Rose (Kaikoura).
So Dustin faces David.  Arguably Mickleson is the USA's best player, so they need him to perform.
But even though Mickleson played some great golf, his putting let him down and even though Mickleson put in a late fight back, Rose had an easy victory by 3 & 2.

USA 10 ½ - 9 ½ EUROPE


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Now this course designer was a bit of a sick sadist.  Who ever heard of three long par fives being one after the other!  Holes eight, nine and ten are certainly not for the soft hitters!  You'll be pleased of the relatively easy par three eleventh that follows them.

The fifth match is Kenny Perry (Greenacre) v Henrik Stenson (Capporth City).
So Matt takes on Bat again.  I'm sure revenge is on Bat's mind!  But Perry played very well and took an early lead which he held to win by 3 & 2.

USA 11 ½ - 9 ½ EUROPE


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So here is where that horrible long hole ten ends up.  Be careful with your final shot - too hard and you'll be weeping as your ball lodges itself between those logs on the beach.  And that short eleventh is uphill, so don't leave the ball short.  If you look real careful you'll see there are bears in them there woods!

And the sixth match is between Boo Weekley (Covington) v Oliver Wilson (Maroanestra).
Jon takes on Arthur at the half way stage of the single matches.  Weekley played some amazing shots and at the half way stage looked like he'd blow Wilson away.  Wilson put a bit of a fight together but it was all in vain as Weekley won the match by 4 & 2.

USA 12 ½ - 9 ½ EUROPE

Only two points needed now for the Americans and the remaining matches are lined up in favour of the USA.


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The twelfth is a tricky one, with the green being so close to the water!  And look, there's a llama on the fairway.  And there's more wildlife on the green.  Hey, stop eating my ball!

Our seventh match is between JB Holmes (Greenacre) v Soren Hansen (Imaginia)
So Matt takes on Maarten this time.  And this was an important match and also a very tight match.  With Holmes one up after fourteen holes but then Hansen fighting back to all square after fifteen.  And then Holmes going one up after sixteen.  And then finishing it off at the seventeenth to win by 2 & 1.

USA 13½ - 9 ½ EUROPE

Only one point needed now for the USA.


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And there's more wildlife now.  Don't let those guys from Wildcat Junction see them, they'll have their rifles out, I know what those country folk are like!!
And look at those houses backing onto the thirteenth.  Views like that just push up the house prices.

Our eighth match sees Jim Furyk (United Stats) v Miguel Angel Jimenez (Watersford).
So Dustin and Shaun go toe to toe.  Now strictly speaking Shaun isn't a real European, but he's been in London long enough to be considered one now!

And this match was very close, being all square at the half way point.  But then Furyk started to move away with some great golf and was three up after thirteen.  Jiminez got one back but it was not enough and on the seventeenth, Furyk putted close and Jiminez could not putt out, so Furyk wins by 2 & 1.

USA 14 ½ - 9 ½ EUROPE

USA win the Continental Cup.  The other matches continue but they cannot win now.


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Can you guess how many golf balls have ended up in that swimming pool?  Luckily the tree seems to save a few overhit shots. 

And now we have Stewart Cink (The Source) v Graeme McDowell (Maroanestra).
Dan takes on Arthur.  As a European I'm hoping Dan's golf is not as good as his mosaics!  And this was another tight match although MacDowell edged ahead and held it to win by 2 & 1.  A case of too little, too late.

USA 14 ½ - 10 ½ EUROPE


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The fifteenth is the last of the par fives.  A devilishly long hole that someone made harder by digging a pond half way along the fairway.  Hmmmm, one of Diggis's ponds would have looked better there.

Here we have Steve Stricker (United Stats) v Ian Poulter (Kaikoura).
Dustin, our stats guru taking on the young Frenchman, David.  And Poulter has been Europe's best player of the whole competition, storming to a lead of three by hole 8.  Poulter continued to play well and won by 3 & 2.

USA 14 ½ - 11 ½ EUROPE


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Now rumour has it that the extra hole is only there because a certain course designer could not count.  But I don't believe that.  I think it's true that this hole was built so that the caddies could have a go!  The sixteenth and seventeenth are both par fours, and again watch out for the water!

The penultimate match is between Ben Curtis (The Source) v Lee Westwood (West End).
So Dan comes to West End and takes on the author (if only I could fix the score!!).  Westwood has played some great golf throughout the competiton and started out well, building a lead of two.  But Curtis fought back to level by hole twelve.  However, by this stage the match didn't really count as the USA had already sewn it up but Curtis won by 2 & 1 to make a great victory for the golfer from The Source.

USA 15 ½ - 11 ½ EUROPE


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Sand galore here at the last hole.  Many a dream has been broken in that bunker in front of the green.  Let's hope that today is different.

Our final match is between Chad Campbell (Wildcat Junction) v Padraig Harrington (Watersford).
So Joan plays another NUT.  But in the end this match really didn't matter and despite the lead changing a couple of times But Campbell held on to win to make the final score......

USA 16 ½ - 11 ½ EUROPE


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And of course, we all know golf is a game for gentlemen (and gentle ladies!!). So please, join me for a drink in the bar when we can discuss all those shots that didn't quite work out.  And I hear Shaun had a hole in one - that means the drinks are on him!!

Thank you to EVERYONE for taking part.  I hope you enjoyed it, and Congratulations to the winning team from USA - your team played the best golf and deserved the victory.

I guess we'll do it again in two years time.


'til next time................. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on September 21, 2008, 03:25:01 PM
I'm very sorry for so long absence Paul! But I'm here again  ;D

The general view of the Picadilly links Golf course is fantastic!  &apls &apls &apls I love all holes too  ;)

I was not the only person who looked at the Continental Cup in West End with a great attention. Thanks to this great event golf becomes a real passion in Shosaloza too. More and more people is interested in it

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Playing this great game gives a lot of fun

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But it needs much hard training too

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(I know it doesn't look very professional yet, but wait a while and you will see... ;D)

West End is one of my most favourite places here in SC4D! Congratulations Paul of so great development, I suppose you have much fun with it too  :thumbsup:

Adam
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on September 21, 2008, 04:05:34 PM
Adam one to many comments come to mind but I will leave those alone lol....  Paul I truly enjoyed the tour of the course and to see that USA won by a fair margine at that....  Did you make that course? Its OK that you forgot about New Castia and thank you for remembering though... Hey Drinks are half off this week in the bar here (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=4668.msg182414#msg182414)
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Post by: Jmouse on September 21, 2008, 04:10:25 PM
Paul, this is one wicked golf course, and the finest I've ever seen in a game of SC4. There are more traps than there are in the Piney Woods of East Texas on a Friday night! Only difference is yours are legal! Very clever commentary, too, and a smashing way to round out the tourney.

BTW, Wildcat Junction officials have no idea who took a pot shot at that 12-point buck. Thank goodness the poor deer got away. ::)

Enjoy your week...
Joan
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Post by: threestooges on September 21, 2008, 06:14:10 PM
A well played competition and a great tour of the course. 8-10 are certainly the product of someone who lost too many skins on par 3's. As far as the rest of the course goes... wait... Hole in one?... Drinks are on Shaun! Pardon me for a second... *a few moments later, sitting back down with a beverage*... ah much better, now where was I? Oh yes, I'm surprised the house by the 14th hasn't put up a saftey net yet. Maybe they golf there and want the free balls. Few golfers would go swimming to get their ball back (even for those pricey Pro-Vs). There'll be much celebration in Greenacre tonight (big golf fans, especially considering they have three representatives in this tournament, who all appear to have won). I hear their respective city councils are preparing honors for them upon their return. I should really start documenting these things, it might be interesting for people to see. Thanks for hosting us Paul, and congratulations to all who participated.
-Matt
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Post by: thundercrack83 on September 21, 2008, 09:53:52 PM
Wonderful golf course, Paul! Absolutely wonderful! If I didn't want to tear my eyes out in frustration every time I played golf (used to play pretty regularly), I'd want to play 18 there!

Keep up the good work, my friend!

Dustin
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Post by: art128 on September 22, 2008, 03:53:38 AM
awesome golf course Paul  &apls :thumbsup:
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Post by: bat on September 22, 2008, 09:01:07 AM
Great work on the golf course and wonderful pictures of it, Paul! :thumbsup:
Looking forward to a new update... ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: dsrwhat316 on September 22, 2008, 03:15:49 PM
Quote from: paroch on September 21, 2008, 03:01:48 PM
As a European I'm hoping Dan's golf is not as good as his mosaics!

Shows I was paying attention  :P Thanks for that subtle compliment! :thumbsup:

Imagine how the homeowners by Hole Fourteen must feel being so close to the green. I wager that more than a couple of balls have made their way into someone's living room...

I really love your golf course. That is one of things I can't make very well. After seeing this update, it has given me a few ideas for a possible future update in The Source.

I'll meet up with everyone for that drink at the bar...

~ Dan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on September 23, 2008, 03:50:01 AM
Yeh my friend nice update as well  &apls
I really love your golf, great work :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on September 26, 2008, 10:32:55 AM
As always my friend, of splendid image of West End   &apls

You must know with qu' it fills with enthusiasm I awaits next the update.

Paul
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on October 05, 2008, 10:41:50 AM
Paul - it's great comming back in West End after a loooooooooooooong absence!  I missed quite some fun again (and missed the drinks on Shaun again - will they ever get real for me??)

Well, Piccadilly turned out to be a great city with a fantastic golf course. The shots made from the quad show soo much great details, I can watch them forever (but won't.. have a husband to pay some attention too as well  ;).  The rugby ground for example... simple in structure, making it very realistic, but yet great in details that you fit in there.

Update 61 made me realise how diverse you play this game. Although my favorite styles will always be historic downtowns, monotonous suburbs, busy indusries and port zones, and lots of roads and rails, you seem to be able to make it all, rural, golflands, beaches, CBD's... man I envie you. Your experiment with the waterways and watertextures turned out excellent - I fell in love with the picture showing the aquaduct (61.08). Connecting the airport shuttle with the monorail is great: I did that as well with the HSRP in one of my cities in Nieuw Amsterdam.

Unfortunately I missed the Continental Golf tournament. If I miss the enrollment again, and if you're short of contributors, feel free to throw Nieuw Nederland in it! (and not only because I know now that North America won :P)

The plans with the corrupted quads are very promissing. I cannot wait to see how New Oxford, New Regent and New Great Portland will be rebuild, as well as the airport. Reason for me to stay tuned as ever to your MD....

Take care.



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on October 12, 2008, 01:32:37 AM
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I guess I have to start by saying sorry for the length of time it's taken me to reply to all your posts – I have had a week on holiday (in Menorca, the island next door to Jeroni's home of Mallorca) and then just not found enough time to really devote to SC4.

Adam:  Your posts are always great fun and I love the way you find those photos to compliment the updates.  It's always good to see you here and I'm glad you enjoyed the golf enough to encourage its development in Shosaloza  ;)

Pat:  When you say "did I make the golf course", I didn't bat it, but it came in a pack with loads of different holes, so I just kinda chucked 'em all together, threw in some trees and flora and away you go!  And yes, the USA team did a great job and were deserved victors.  And I'll pop into the bar real soon!

Joan:  LOL, yeah those boys from Wildcat Junction sure were WILD!

Matt:  Hehehe, yeah those long par 5s all together will certainly seperate the men from boys!  And I think you're right....plenty of golf balls in that swimming pool.  Thanks for dropping by.

Dustin:  Ah, yes, I once tried to take up golf (many years ago) and was rubbish!  It certainly is one frustrating game (hence why I gave up!!)

Arthur:  Thanks for that – I know there are many course in Portugal.

Bat:  Thanks bat.... new update is under construction!

Dan:  You're welcome re the compliment.  And yeah, that house is mighty close to the green (one of the beauties of SC4 is that we can get away with the odd "funny").  And as for not being able to put a course together.....I have a feeling you'd do a great job.  Like most aspects of the game, a little time, a little patience and a lot of bulldozing is all there is to it!

David:  Good to see you again and thanks for the comment.

Paul:  Thank you and I hope you like the double zero award.

Sebes:  Hey my Dutch friend – how you doing?  I hope you had a great holiday.  As for the "real" drinks, Shaun and I had a drink in De Hems, London's only Dutch Bar, a few weeks back.  When you finally make that trip to London it is where we will buy you a beer (or three).
And thanks for your great detailed comments, it's always good to get such feedback and compliments!  I've been away from the game myself for a while, so plan to get some updates going again now, as you see, so much to do!


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Today it's time to honour the latest member of West End's Double Zero Club:

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Post number 800 was made on 20th September by Warconstruct (Paul).  He first posted in West End on 29th December 2007 and has been one of West End's regular visitors, with 14 visits in total.  Paul has his own MD, Trieste (which I thoroughly recommend) and lives in the French city of Strasbourg.

So to honour the 800th post, West End is pleased to announce that Paul Warcontruct is the:

Official French Ambassador to West End

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Update 63 is underway, and I am also starting to develop the peninsular in Piccadilly that you all kindly gave suggestions for.

'til next time....................... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on October 12, 2008, 02:07:34 AM
nice picture  :thumbsup: great work
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Post by: bat on October 12, 2008, 03:12:34 AM
Yes, nice picture there! And congrats to warconstruct for posting the 800th reply of your MD! Looking forward to update 63! ;)
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Post by: Simpson on October 12, 2008, 03:14:56 AM
Lol nice to see the french flag  ;D
And also congratulation for Paul and you for having more than 800 replies in your splendid MD
Great work my friend  &apls &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on October 12, 2008, 03:34:00 AM
Congtaulations Paul... um.. Warconstruct.  That could get confusing.

I can't believe I haven't commented to the last 2 posts.  Needless to say I have seen them.  It's a great golf course there mate, book me in for a round.  Although pretty sure the 10th would get me everytime.  And got to feel sorry for the people at the 14th Tee.

Also, when you book me in for a round, can you make the foursome up with some of Adam's friends for me?  My golfs bad enough so if any of them are tutors that would be brilliant.  I prefer a very hands on approach to lessons.  :D
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on October 12, 2008, 09:39:32 PM
Paul aka warconstruct congrats on being named the ambassador to west end!!!

LoL Paul I knew you didnt bat it as I found it out to be the NHP FLOGGER Course or something like that  ;) I loved your tribute to paul as I feel it was perfect with the french anthem!!!  :thumbsup:  I cant wait till the next update...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on October 12, 2008, 10:55:28 PM
Félicitations Paul (warconstruct). Can't wait to see a pic of the embassy in West End. Until then, I'll keep an eye out for the peninsula update. Until then, nice work with the 00-Club addition. Don't worry about time issue Paul, we're glad to see you around here, and I hope the trip to Menorca was enjoyable. Didn't happen to see out Mallorcan friend did you? Take it easy and I'll see you next update.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on October 14, 2008, 02:47:10 PM
Congratulations to both Pauls! To warconstruct for hitting the eighth "00," and to paroch for more than 20,000 views. And to the first Paul, all I can say is, you're lucky you don't have an orange BAT model lurking around somewhere! :D

Looking forward to the next update...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on October 15, 2008, 01:42:37 PM
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Arthur:  Thanks for dropping in.

Bat:  I wonder if post 900 will make you the German ambassador ;)!?  And here's the update.

David:  I hope you liked the French tribute and that I didn't miss too many important pictures!

Shaun:  Hehehe, trust you to book a round with Shosaloza's new pros  $%Grinno$%

Pat:  Great to see you here Pat, and glad you liked the French anthem.

Matt:  Hey look at you with the multi-lingual talents!  I've made a start on the peninsular (using one of your suggestions) although the finished article may be a few updates away!!

Joan:  Wow 20,000 views – I must admit I'd not noticed that figure for a while thanks for pointing it out.  And yeah, your "00" award was kinda ORANGE!


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It's been a while since the last proper update, so I should apologise for that.  I have started work on the undeveloped peninsular and will try to incorporate at least part of the suggestions that Maarten, Joan, Matt and Shaun made.  But that is not finished yet, so today I thought it was time to explore a few other parts of Piccadilly. 

Here's the overview again so that you get get oriented:

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We're going to look at Millay, Piccanham and the JBS Industrial Park.  We'll start over in the suburb of Millay which is notable for its streets of uniform medium wealth houses and back alleys.

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As you'll see those back alleys sure do stand out and make it look a bit different from most other West End suburbs.


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And here it is from a different angle.


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Up in the north of Millay is the small commercial zone.


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One side of the road has a mix of (from left to right) small local shops, a Sainsbury's supermarket, Pollo Loco restaurant, Shell petrol station and Chocolate Boutiqe (which draws customers from all over West End).  And we can see some redevelopment on the other side of the road, let's take a closer look at that.


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It's mainly offices on this side of the road and that new building is the new dentist surgery.  He'll need to do plenty of fillings to pay for that shiny new building.  And on the corner is Pussy Cleaners.  I really am not sure what goes on in there!


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Here's the local high school.


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The regular visitors to West End will know that most of the schools have reasonable sports facilities.  Millay High School is no different, although it looks like the local hooligans have stolen parts of the tennis court fencing!


And now, a series of pictures of the houses and their back alleys.  I love these new MattB houses – making their first appearance in West End – Matt's use of the tree props really work well with the JRJ side street mod, making it a very leafy suburb indeed.  I'll let the pics do their own talking:

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Millay likes to think of itself as a middle class neighbourhood, and so doesn't really like anything that can damage its image.  Many Millay residents say that the commercial zone on the eastern avenue is not really part of Millay at all......
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Maybe they think the Pink Taco is a bit of a tacky restaurant and that the pub encourages the wrong sorts.  I'm not sure what they make of Goober's Cover Ups!


Well, lets now hop north of the motorway into Piccanham.  We paid a visit to part of Piccanham before when I showed you the rugby ground.  Well the other thing that Piccanham is famous for is its large cemetary:

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That's the biggest cemetary I've ever made in SC4.


And we'll round out today by looking at the JBS Industrial Park.  This developed to provide the "I" jobs that the city demanded in its early days.

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In this pic you can see Millay in the left side of the shot.

The Industrial Park got its name from JBSimmio who posted a comment about the industrial area, so it kinda got named after him as a result!

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Here's the railyard that serves the industial zone and handles plenty of exports.


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Glenni's water treatment plant is one of my favourite bats.  I think he did a GREAT job on these.


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And we finish up with plenty of smoke stacks.  This is a large chemical processing plant and I just love the way they've grown together – certainly not planned, so I have to say thanks to Tag_One for this great industrial bat.

Well, I hope you enjoyed the tour.  There are still a few bits of Piccadilly to show you – plus I have the rest of that peninsular to develop!


'til next time....................... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on October 15, 2008, 02:02:22 PM
Hey my friend  :)
I really love this update 63 :thumbsup:

The city is looking very good and also réalistic. Great work &apls
I'm looking forward to update 64  ::)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on October 15, 2008, 03:06:48 PM
paul wow this update there is alot going on!!! The JBS industrial area is great looking as well as the Millay surburban area niiiiiice!!!  I cant wait to see more!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on October 15, 2008, 05:14:31 PM
Finally I could visit your MD. I love the Picadilly Overview. The city looks lovely. I am interested what are you planning to build on that undeveloped peninsular. Maybe a port or some other high rise area? Also the transportition looks good, the rail and the motorway support the two parts of the city, the two peninsular. By the way do you plan to build a bridge over the bay from the Central to the peninsula?

Dilly and Edwards Bay are the parts that I am interested now, as I saw the other parts you showed.

Good job Paul!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on October 16, 2008, 03:11:17 AM
Nice Paul, very nice :thumbsup:

All looks great, but I was extremely excited to see the flat football pitch  :D

Seriously though, I love the way you have laid out the suburbs, especially with the laneways behind.  :thumbsup:
And I'm always a sucker for Matt's lots.

The dirtier side of town looks good and well done with the railyard. The dead centre ain't too bad either  :) I'd hate to think the surroundering homes were bought for the view though  ;D

Another great update my friend.

Dave

PS: If I've got it right this is my 1000th post. Couldn't think of a better place to make it :)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on October 16, 2008, 04:03:43 AM
that's a really great update my friend  :thumbsup: great work  &apls the overview is superb !
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Dark_horse_spirit on October 16, 2008, 04:18:14 AM
Your dirt Alley ways are really good, Where did you get them.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on October 16, 2008, 06:18:59 AM
Quote from: paroch on October 15, 2008, 01:42:37 PM
Shaun:  Hehehe, trust you to book a round with Shosaloza's new pros  $%Grinno$%

The were pros?  I would never have guessed.  I would have expected to find them in Kingly rather than Millay.  :D

Great update Paul,  Really enjoyed the visit.  You have done a great job with the industrial park.  Just like Jon really, large and dirty.  Bet it smells too.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on October 16, 2008, 06:49:09 AM
Nice update, Paul!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on October 16, 2008, 06:54:51 AM
WELCOME TO PAGE 43!!

Great parts there of your city! Millay is looking really beautiful! And congrats for being

Quote from: paroch on October 15, 2008, 01:42:37 PM
[...] I wonder if post 900 will make you the German ambassador [...]
I will try my best! ;)

And congrats for being the 8th MD with over 20000 views (and the third MD over 43 pages)!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on October 16, 2008, 06:40:17 PM
The Piccadilly Overview looks like it came straight off a Google Earth shot, except it's brighter, more colorful and carefully annotated! ;D Absolutely love the alleys behind the houses, and 63.08 - followed by several more shots -  really shows off the effect including paths to the houses.Did you lot the garages yourself?

The Piccanham cemetery is really impressive - a lot of work laying that out and getting it to look right.

My hat is off to your Industrial Park design. Loads of details that make me wonder how much lotting you did here. You've certainly managed to combine many elements into a very realistic scene. And I like the way the smoke stacks turned out, too.

Now I'm hoping
the peninsular's time in the spotlight is coming soon - Piccadilly is turning out really well, and the new addition can only make it better!

Later...

Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on October 19, 2008, 05:43:54 AM
What an excellent return in West End Paul. The pictures are very appealing. I like how you had the suburban villas growing in rows with lanes in between. Must be a great place to live in one of those beautifull homes. 

The commercial areas are very inspiring. Pink taco's huh... &Thk/(
Is the cemetery realy is your first large one? The railyard area, of course, is my favorite. I really love you have the large yard and the container terminals connected with the spur. The positions of the yards, terminals and other industrial buildings in picture 63.18 is absolutely very much to my likings!

Although I like the chemical plants of Tag One a lot, and some grew nicely, I do think you have a bit to much clustered overthere.... But as others above seem to like it a lot, it's probably just a mather of personal taste  ;)

Looking forward to what the peninsula will be looking like... botanic gardens maybe as suggested by some? That would be just great !
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on October 22, 2008, 11:09:00 AM
Quote from: Diggis on October 16, 2008, 06:18:59 AM
You have done a great job with the industrial park.  Just like Jon really, large and dirty.  Bet it smells too.

HEY!!!  &hlp  :angrymore:  %bur2$  :D

Great update, Paul! 

I really liked 63.04... it just has a great combination of buildings and styles all mixed together.  It gives me the sense that this area has been around for a long time and seen a lot of different changes during that time.

The residential suburb pictures are also great.  Plenty of trees, lots of green, a few dirt alleys around the back, and that overall impression of "sameness."  Yep, it sounds like a suburb to me.  And I actually mean that in a good way, unlike my normal comments on suburbia! ;)  Seriously though, the continuity really does show through and the neighborhood came out very well.

I'm honored to have so much pollution named after me... I'm sure the environmental education center here would be thrilled to hear about that!  :D  I also like those chemical plants quite a bit, although I always thought they grew too easily for my tastes.  You managed to turn that to your advantage and the results really worked.  I'll have to remember that idea next time I get a whole crop of smokestacks growing again.

As I'm sure you know, there is one part of this I'm still very interested in seeing... so I'll be looking forward to the next update!

Jon
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on November 01, 2008, 09:03:55 AM
Fantastic update mate &apls &apls

Sorry haven't been about for a while &mmm but I'm back ;D

Looks like I got a bit of catching up to do so I'm off to put kettle on ;D
Fancy a brew?

Got this empty mug here that needs fillin' :D :D
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Laters mate

:satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: CasperVg on November 01, 2008, 09:16:17 AM
A most excellent update, Millay looks like a splendid town to live (and rest - that cemetary is awesome) in, and the industrial area looks great as well, perhaps just a tad to much repetition on those smoke stacks tho.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 01, 2008, 10:49:18 AM
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David:  Thanks David, always good to see your comments here and here is update 64!

Pat:  Hehehe, I try to fit as much as I can into most updates, so I'm pleased you liked it.

Krizstian:  Ahhh, the undeveloped peninsular!  Yes, I asked for some suggestions a couple of updates back and it is in development at the moment – so watch this space!  And no, there are no plans for a bridge, the bay is Piccadilly's best aspect (imo) so I won't put a bridge across it.  And Edwards Bay will feature real soon.

Dave:  Thanks – and yes MattB is a master of houses for the burbs.  I can't guarantee all pitches will be so flat in future mind!  And wow- the 1000th Tooheys post in West End, nice one.

Arthur:  Hey thanks – good to see you.

Dark Horse Spirit: Welcome to West End – always good to see a new face around here.  As for the dirt alleys – try this linkie (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=752) and enjoy!

Shaun:  LOL, one reply, so many gags, it must be Shaun!!  Cheers mate – made me laugh!

Maarten  Cheers mate.

Bat:  Thanks bat – always good to see you here and yes the 900 slot will be interesting!

Joan:  Hi Joan, and thanks for that google earth comparison compliment.  As for the alleys – no they are an old download from the STEX – see the link above if you're interested.  I do think they're a nice set and not used that much.  And the industrial zone is all standard lots – no re-work from me at all.  Just a lucky selection!
The peninsular is coming – but is not yet finished!

Sebes:  Great comment – thanks.  Yes that suburb should be a nice place to live.  Get up in the morning, spend some time playing SC4 with the sun shining through the windows.  Have breakfast in the garden – nice and peaceful.  Go for a stroll in the afternoon and chat with the neighbours and then still time to go for a Pink Taco in the evening!!
Glad you liked the railyards, I don't play with them enough, so I'm pleased you think they worked.  And I know there are loads of stacks in the industrial zone – just the way they grew (I find they grow easily for me). 
And I am trying to find a nice botanical greenhouse for the peninsular!

Jon:  Yeah, I know what you mean about 64.04, looks like many UK high streets.  Glad you liked the MattB burb – I think that a good SC4 burb needs plenty of that sameness.  And it's not every day I name a large collection of polluting buildings after someone!!

Derry:  Great to see you here mate – and no worries, I've hardly been prolific myself recently.  And what a great mug you found there – love it!

Casper:  Thanks Casper.  Hehe, yeah there are quite a few smoke stacks.  I'd normally weed some out but thought I'd leave them in just for a change this time.

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I'm sorry my updates have not been so frequently recently – I'm hoping to be able to give you more during November.

Let's just have a quick reminder of how Piccadilly looks:
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Today we're going to focus on the area from Clement Brook, round towards Dilly and also a quick look at the Central Station:

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Ok, so here we are looking across the railway from the JBS Industrial Park towards Clements Brook.  Those low density Residential Zones have sat empty for a long time now.  I think I have to accept that no-one wants to live there.  So it's time for the city council to take steps to improve the area!


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We've changed the angle of the view here, and you can see some parks and green space have been built alongside the railway.  And already development has started.


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And here we have the finished article.  Not only have houses developed, many of the old low wealth houses have been replaced by more modern and pleasant houses – everyone's happy!!  And if you look, you'll see the monorail on the other side of those flats.


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Another angle change!  Here you can see the monorail in action. This one is headed to the city centre and has come from the airport.  This is the first time a monorail has been spotted in West End!!


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Another of Piccadilly's green spaces.


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The Dilly peninsular (not the undeveloped one!).  More parkland and football pitches.


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Not the nicest neighbourhood in Piccadilly.  And the local young men like to race their cars up and down the small roads!


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Here we are right on the edge of the city centre.  Those tower blocks have become pretty run down – which is a shame as they have great access to the transport network, green spaces and they city centre itself.


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These two pictures show the mainly commercial development that has grown up on the north side of the central station.  Plenty of banks, finance and insurance companies are located here.  It's rumoured that some of them are having problems as the Credit Crunch starts to be felt in West End.


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The buildings near to the station entrance are a bit more historic and house shops, restaurants, bars and smaller offices.


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The south side of the station has commercial and residential developments.  Piccadilly Mutual Finance Co is housed in the building in the centre of pic 64.13 and is the largest private sector employer in Piccadilly.
The residential towers in 64.14 are very popular with the city centre office workers as they are just a short stroll to the centre.


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And just to the south of 64.14 is Gilmore Gardens.  A very popular spot in the spring and summer, with roller bladers out in force.


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West End is currently hosting the IPON Federers Cup.  This is a tennis tournament open to member nations of IPON.  Six teams are battling it out for ultimate tennis glory.  So far the group matches have taken place and the final will be between The Soviet Black Sea Union and Tientsin-Fort Boyart.  West End and San Pedro will play-off for third place.  Liberty Islands and The Federation of Buesti & Ravoi have already been eliminated from the competition. 

If you'd like to see more about the competition then have a look at this linkie (http://uisn.freeforums.org/federers-cup-west-end-october-08-t192.html).


Well that's all for today, I hope you enjoyed it.

'til next time................. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: CasperVg on November 01, 2008, 11:00:42 AM
Good work once again; I like the special lots you made for the IPON Federers club, Chrisadam's bleachers work perfectly there. Gilmore Gardens is one more proof that your modding skills are excellent, and the monorails are a very interesting idea, since it's probably the least used network throughout SimCity 4, while probably being the fasted one. It was good to have an overview of the area at the beginning of the update, since it was thus easier to place a specific shot into a larger context. One thing I noticed tho, is that you seem to have an outdated/superseeded version of the EuroRoads mod, judging from the yellow-lined overpass pieces in pictures 64.10 and 64.14. Keep on going!

Congrats on your third OSITM!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 01, 2008, 12:29:16 PM
Paul great update here as usual from you sir!!!  I can bet your butt on it that no matter what update you whip up I will always like it  :D  bad pun sorry  $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 01, 2008, 01:10:45 PM
Congratulations, Paul!

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Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 01, 2008, 01:14:25 PM
Hey Paul Congrats on your Third trip to OSITM!!! WOOOHOO!!!!  &apls &apls &apls &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on November 01, 2008, 01:18:42 PM
A very well Deserved Award too I might add  &apls &apls

Most excellent update too, just heading off to refill my cuppa and have a close look again :thumbsup:
Want yours filling?

:satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on November 01, 2008, 01:26:02 PM
great update my friend  :thumbsup: and congrats to your third OSITM  &apls &apls
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Post by: rooker1 on November 01, 2008, 01:30:05 PM
Three time Awardee.
Sounds really nice.  Welcome to the Club.
&apls &apls &apls
One clap for each time.  ;)
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 01, 2008, 06:26:38 PM
I always seem to start out by thanking you for the overview, Paul, so why change a good thing! It really is an enormous help.

You did well to rezone that neighborhood
- looks great now. The monorail is an interesting sight, but I've never seen one in RL so I can't really make an informed comment. I like Clements Park (64.05) a lot, and I'm sure the world of sports better off for having those level footie pitches! $%Grinno$% And those walls around Dilly Peninsular are fantastic! That must have taken a lot of time and patience.

The Central Station complex looks good
- not really fond of the green-roofed orange buildings, but that's strictly a matter of personal taste. You've done a good job on arranging the whole area, though. Gilmore Gardens are lovely, and the IPON Federers Cup complex looks great. You did a wonderful job of designing and creating it.

Revisiting West End is like being in the company of an old friend - it's a charming and comfortable place to be!

Congratulations on being one of the first three-time OSITM awardees!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: dedgren on November 01, 2008, 08:51:24 PM
Man, Paul- no telling what you can put in that cup... at any rate, it's yours to cyber-keep, and incredibly well-deserved.


David
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: south park on November 02, 2008, 01:51:54 AM
amazing job on your city and congrat's for your third OSITM !! &apls &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 02, 2008, 03:02:29 AM
Update 64 is a really great update there! Nice work on it!
And looking forward to more in this month...

Also congrats for your 3rd time in the OSITM-section... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bluesinjid on November 02, 2008, 04:38:04 AM
Wow i justed stopped by and also want to congratulate u in the O.S.I.T.M| &apls I  really like how u put a lot of parks in ur region :) But i would recommend u get the HRSP or the bullet rain mod! ( i think  it would look better)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 02, 2008, 12:38:00 PM
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Casper:  Hey thanks.  Glad you liked the tennis lots.  And Gilmore Gardens is not my own work they're a pack of as yet released lots from JBSimio (I luckily had my memory stick with me when I met Jon earlier in the year ;-) ).  And thanks for the tip re the Euro Road Mod – I'll have to go find the newer version.

Pat x 2:  Pat, your puns are always welcome here – and woohoo we're in OSITM together.

Dustin:  You don't know how much it means to me to be one of only two MDs to be awarded a third session in OSITM (I think there's only Mind Scape and West End).  I know West End's not been as active as usual recently so I'll do my best to give November a real good show.

Derry:  Hmmm a nice cuppa would be good thanks (but coffee for me please). 

Arthur:  Thanks for those words.

Robin:  Hey – Mind Scape is part of the furniture here at SC4D, so I'm honoured to be here with you.

Joan:  I love your comments – always some nice words and you tell me what you like in each update.  Glad you liked it and I guess I'll have to produce a new overview of Piccadilly soon to show the changes!

David:  Now there's an idea – I can keep stuff in the trophy!  Maybe if I write the prop names of all those useful ones I spot and vow to use at some time!!  Good to see you drop by.

SouthPark:  Welcome to West End and thanks for your kind words.

Bat:  Cheers bat – and I'm, pleased to be in OSITM with you too.

Bluesinjid:  Welcome to West End.  Thanks for your words and I will have to look at the HRSP – thanks for the suggestion.



Well – I have to say that I am really pleased to have a third time in OSITM and hope I can deliver up some things of interest.  There are still parts of Piccadilly to show you, but I know a few of you are waiting to see what happens on the undeveloped peninsular.  I'm not normally one for teasers – but today I'll make an exception and give you a sneak preview on somethings that may appear on that peninsular soon.

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Hope you like the look of these.

'til next time............................ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 02, 2008, 12:41:35 PM
Welcome to OSITM number three, Paul!

I love the teaser--great way to start things off! I will definitely be looking forward to seeing how things come together!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 02, 2008, 02:54:29 PM
Oh yes, yes, yes! Paul has opened LE again for the first time in a couple of months, and obviously hasn't lost his touch! I can see great things coming along soon!

Later...

Joan
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Post by: Pat on November 02, 2008, 03:16:41 PM
Paul that is looking sooo good there!!! Yea speaking of bad puns you will so love the bad pun i unlease in the podcast lol  ;)
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Post by: bat on November 03, 2008, 04:29:23 AM
Those are nice two lots there!
Looking forward to more... ;)
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Post by: Sheep49 on November 03, 2008, 08:47:37 AM
Good lots. I really like them. The second one reminds me of the building in Kew Gardens in London. Though, on the 2nd lot, I would suggest making trees not so regular, I mean, scatter them in the lot. And the colour of the trees in the first lot is kinda irritating for me $%Grinno$%

But since you opened LE for the first time in a couple of months, I can safely say that this lots are magnificent ;)

See you later!
Piotr
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Post by: paroch on November 03, 2008, 10:19:30 AM
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Dustin:  Thanks Dustin – OSITM3 was the impetus I needed to get West End back on track.  I just hope I can keep up with Pat, Bat and Robin this month – both in quality and quantity.

Joan:  I kinda guessed you'd be pleased to see some LE work in the pipe!

Pat:  I'm looking forward to the podcast and am sure the puns will make me chuckle– still not listened to the first one.  Is there a simple link to it??

Bat:  Thanks my friend.  More have already been put together.

Piotr:  Thanks for your comments.  The greenhouse is actually the Palacio Cristalino by Riptide but is similar to the ones at Kew Gardens.  Thanks for your suggestions – trouble is they've already been plopped in game and it took an age, so I'm not going back now!!


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Today we're going to look at the educational heart of Piccadilly.  Now before you all ask where these amazing University buildings can be found – I have to tell you that as far as I am aware they have not been released.  They are the work of SC4's greatest school builder, JBSimio.  I was fortunate enough to have a memory stick with me when I met Jon (JBSimio) earlier in the year.  Jon, I hope you like the layout I've used but all the credit has to go to Jon for these great buildings and lots.

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Here's an overview of the area.  You can see that the University and College share a campus and are the two largest educational facilities in Piccadilly.  I think this picture also gives a feel for how much green space there is in the city.  You can also see how the high rise buildings tend to be spread along the major roads.


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Let's get a bit closer to see the layout of the Campus.  You can see it's bordered by the railway on two sides.  I hear that their degree in Trainspotting is one of their most highly subscribed courses!!


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Here are the main university buildings, housing the admin, classrooms, library and research facility.


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Simio Hall is the main building – and appears on many of the postcards that tourists to Piccadilly buy.  The small chapel of St.Jon is crammed with students on the night before the exams – all praying for easy questions!


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Michigan Hall and the maintenance building.


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The dorms facing the railway are very popular with those on the Trainspotting course.


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The residential buildings around the university have a kind of village feel to them.  It's a popular place to live in Piccadilly with plenty of bars and restaurants.  I have to admit I was very pleased with how the diagonals worked out.


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I was surprised and pleased when these SFBT apartments set at an angle grew like this.  Some of these low wealth apartments are used by students who can't get a room in the main campus dormitories.


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Home to the University football and athletics teams and the site of plenty of high drama over the years. 
Also, it's funny how sometimes you spot an "error" in a picture you're preparing for an MD update that you hadn't seen before.  The dip in the road right in front of the tennis courts would have been easy to correct if only I'd seen it before taking all of the pics!


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And here is the Adamport college located at the northern end of the campus.  This is where students go between High School and University (16 to 18/9 in UK terms).


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A final overview of the area, but this time from taken from the north, looking south.  If you look carefully you can also see how many trains pass by the campus during rush hour.  The West End rail network really does shift a lot of people.


Now, before I sign off, I thought I'd give a few more little teasers of the planned development for the peninsular.......

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I have to thank Riptide and D66 for their great props which I have used extensively in putting these together.

I'd say development is about 80% complete now and I hope to show you the results soon.


'til next time....................... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on November 03, 2008, 10:24:00 AM
very great update my friend , you do a very great work on the campus &apls
and also, great work on your city  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 03, 2008, 10:26:19 AM
That's a great 65th update there! 13 Great images! Also nice lots there and nice work on the LE! The pictures of the university and college are excellent, fantastic work... Also great overview of this part of your city...

Looking forward to some pictures of the (planned) development for the peninsular...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 03, 2008, 12:20:06 PM
The University layout looks terrific, Paul, but not surprising considering your skill and the beautiful buildings you had to work with! And the surrounding areas just add to an already great scenario. I agree with your comments in 65.07 - the diagonals look really good and provide an interesting contrast. Then 65.08 finishes off this unique and very pleasing layout.

And you're right, I'm really happy to see you back in full swing, and back to working with LE. You have a creative talent that would be a shame to waste.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 03, 2008, 07:15:12 PM
Hey Paul I think you can do it my friend and if you are up to it me and Robin are going for a 125 month reply!!! are you game?  I cant wait to see what you have in store!!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on November 03, 2008, 11:25:52 PM
This is the update I've been looking for ever since July!   &apls

The university looks great, Paul.  I always enjoy seeing how other people use things... because it's almost always done in ways that I hadn't really thought of.  Your arrangement is no exception.

65.02 is particularly interesting to me.  The overview sums things up nicely and gives a good feel of the entire campus.  The thing that jumped out most to me is that the only driving on campus is the small service drive to the maintenance building and Michigan Hall.  It's a perfect example of things I'd never consider myself and the result is really nice.

65.04 just made me laugh a little bit.  "praying for easy questions..."  Priceless!   :D

65.08 is another great look.  Those SFBT apartments fit in perfectly there and look as if they could really be off campus student housing.

The stadium completes the whole area.  I really like how the whole thing turned out!   :thumbsup:  Thank you for all your kind words... and also all the names.  The way you're going with this tile, I feel like I should come to Piccadilly to sign autographs or something!   :D

See you next time!

JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 04, 2008, 02:24:14 PM
Replies and all to follow later - but as it's OSITM and the rest of the guys are being ultra active, I thought it only right I try and keep pace with a new pic.

I've pretty much finished development in Piccadilly now.  I think the only changes will be any little bits I spot when I go back in to take pics for the next couple of updates.  So I thought it was time to show you an update of the whole city tile.

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Needless to say the "secret peninsular" has been a bit blurred!  Not sure how that happened ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 04, 2008, 02:31:38 PM
Paul did you spill your tea there so Derry would have to come to New Castia to get all that water again lol.... anyways looking good and I cant wait to see how that gets cleaned up over there  ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 04, 2008, 03:27:18 PM
Oh Noooooooooo!! At least 10 seconds of shame for blurring the good stuff and teasing us like that! *Paul hangs head and counts 2-4-6-8-10*

Otherwise, Piccadilly looks great. :D That's exactly the kind of quad I always hope to produce but never even come close! Anyway, I'll be watching to see what turns up on that peninsular - I'm sure it will be well worth the wait!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on November 05, 2008, 12:48:13 AM
Hi Paul  :)
First, congratulation for this third OSITM  &apls
Second, these updates are looking perfect
Third, I love the general picture  :o

Super work my friend
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on November 05, 2008, 01:57:10 AM
QuoteAlso, it's funny how sometimes you spot an "error" in a picture you're preparing for an MD update that you hadn't seen before.  The dip in the road right in front of the tennis courts would have been easy to correct if only I'd seen it before taking all of the pics!

Flat Paul, flat  :D

OSITM x 3, well done mate, you do deserve it  &apls

Love the campus, nicely put together, a great choice of buildings. The dorms are a good example. I have to ask, are they the growable lots? (or did you make them ploppable). If the former, you must have a lot more patience than me to wait for identical lots to grow  ;)

Have  a fun month

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 05, 2008, 05:57:14 AM
That's  a great city there! And looking forward to the rest of it... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 05, 2008, 11:45:12 AM
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Arthur:  I'm glad you liked the campus – thanks for dropping by.

Bat x 2:  Thanks for your comment – I'll try not to have toooooo many teasers of the peninsular.

Joan x 2:  Cheers Joan, glad you liked the campus and diagonals.  And yes, I enjoyed the LE work.  I'm not normally one for teasers but am using OSTIM as an excuse to do so!  I think you'll like the end result though.

Pat x 2:  Wow, 125 replies in one month.  That'll be tough but I'll try and keep pace with you, Robin and Bat and see where we end up.  Hehe, yeah, Derry's tea caused that blur!

Jon:  I am pleased you liked it.  When I posted them I did wonder what you'd think.  I can only imagine how much time and effort you put into creating those buildings and lots, so I wanted to at least do them justice.  As for the small amount of parking – you're absolutely right and to be honest, I didn't really notice that until I was putting the update together.  Clearly more parking is needed and if I did it again, I'd probably make a large car park where some of the SFBT apartments are.  I'm glad you liked the names (was trying to recall your surname but couldn't get it in my head!).  And the autograph session is planned in a local book shop  ;)

David:  Gee, thanks for those great comments.

Dave:  No need to tell you who I thought of when I spotted that dip!!  The university buildings are all ploppable, but the apartments in 65.08 (the ones I called Overflow Dorms) were all grown and it was a pure fluke.


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I thought today would be a great opportunity to share with you all a great British tradition.  West End is located in the British Isles and is the only UK authored MD in OSITM, so I thought it's only right to give you this update.

All the Brits here will know what we mean by BONFIRE NIGHT.  But I really don't know whether this piece of British history is well known outside of the UK.......so here goes:


Bonfire Night is celebrated across the UK on 5 November. The date marks the failed attempt to blow up the Houses of Parliament by Guy Fawkes along with a group of co-conspirators in London in 1605.

The intention was to kill King James I and wipe out everyone in government. The group were Catholic extremists who wanted to return England to the Catholic faith. One of the conspirators had a friend in the Houses of Parliament and sent a letter to him, warning him to stay away from the House on the day the attack was supposed to take place. The letter was intercepted and handed to the king.

Meanwhile, Guy Fawkes and friends, having formulated their plan, known as the 'Gunpowder Plot', had rolled 36 barrels of gunpowder into the cellars of the Houses of Parliament, and were waiting for the king to arrive when guards broke in and arrested them. They were tortured and executed.

Nowadays on Bonfire Night people organise their own parties or attend big organised fireworks displays. They stand around the bonfire,
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set off fireworks and eat lots of nice warming Bonfire Night foods, like sausages and jacket potatoes.
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They might also remark...

Remember, remember the fifth of November,
Gunpowder, treason and plot,
We see no reason,
Why gunpowder treason,
Should ever be forgot!

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...Which sort of suggests that people rather admire the cheek of Guy Fawkes, trying to blow up Parliament, and that's why they celebrate Bonfire night, rather than celebrating the fact that his plot failed and he was caught!

Fireworks that are sent up on Bonfire night have really evocative names like, Roman Candles, Mount Vesuvius and Golden Shower.
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There are also Catherine Wheels that spin and Sparklers that children write their names in the air with.
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Children make life-sized effigies of Guy Fawkes which are called Guys, to put onto the bonfires.
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The English have been burning effigies to mark Guy Fawkes' treason for almost 400 years. The tradition started in 1606, the year after the Gunpowder plot failed. In these first bonfires, called 'bone fires' at the time, it wasn't an effigy of Guy Fawkes that was burned, but one of the Pope. It was not until 1806, two centuries later, that the people started burning effigies of Guy Fawkes instead.

Children make a Guy by stuffing some old clothes with newspapers, craft a head out of material, and either draw a face on it or buy a special cardboard Guy Fawkes mask.
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For a few days beforehand children are pushing guys around in prams, push chairs and go-carts, saying 'A penny for the guy'. Adults then give them money - how much depends on how good the guy is. The money is then spent on sparklers, or at least it would be, if children were still allowed to buy fireworks in the UK, so it is probably spent on sweets instead.


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And excuse my photoshopping skills – but here is a picture of the Bonfire held in the park in Piccadilly next to the Golden Viking Casino.


As I sit here posting this I can hear loads of fireworks going off outside, so I guess I'll go outside now and wish you all a Happy Bonfire Night.
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'til next time.................... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on November 05, 2008, 12:58:21 PM
The picture looks very good, very nice park my friend  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 05, 2008, 02:59:03 PM
Hey Paul thank you for educating me on who and what Guy Fawkes did!!!  I nice little tribute indeed and I cant wait till the next update!!!
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Post by: threestooges on November 05, 2008, 04:21:07 PM
Wow, quite a bit has happened here since last time I posted. I really like the update on Bonfire Night. The closest thing I would think to compare it to would be our Independence day, but then we don't have massive bonfires. The overview shot looks really good (expect the part where you sneezed while editing the peninsular) and, given the LE teasers you've been showing, I am really looking forward to the unveiling of it. The colleges are great and the dorms in 65.06 are just perfect in their placement. JBSimio certainly did some nice work with that set. Congratulations on the 3rd OSITM, and here's to more to come.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on November 05, 2008, 04:28:12 PM
Thanks for the brief history lesson and congrats on your 3rd OSITM &apls &apls

Piccadilly looks wonderful - all of it. The fact there is so much greenery really adds to it.
I Particularly like your take on the college and you did a marvellous job with Jon's BAT's.
Must be hard to study with all those trains passing by.

Wonder what you have in store for us that you have hidden away under that splodge

Till the next time
:satisfied:
TTC

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 05, 2008, 06:42:59 PM
That's a really interesting - and fun - tradition, Paul. So glad you told us about it. What the heck, if it's a good excuse for families and friends to gather and enjoy themselves, then more power to Guy and his buddies! And of course, it's only right that it be celebrated in West End.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 05, 2008, 09:51:36 PM
Very interesting stuff here, Paul!

I'd heard of Bonfire Night before, but I did not know the particulars or the story behind it. See what you can learn around here?

I'll be looking forward to see what you have next for us, my friend!

Take care,

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 06, 2008, 06:44:15 AM
Nice update there of the Bonfire Night 2008, great pictures (RL and the sc4)...
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Post by: JBSimio on November 06, 2008, 09:30:02 AM
Very interesting update, Paul!   :thumbsup:  Adding a little culture to our lives now, are you?  I actually had never heard of Bonfire Night before... I came expecting to see a bunch of blurry pennisulas and ended up learning stuff instead.  :D  It looks like a fun time was had by all... except for maybe those made out of stuffing.

See you next time,
JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on November 07, 2008, 01:46:34 AM
Hehe, you guys think like an Aussie, we like to idolise our favourite crims, Ned Kelly for example (everyone heads for google, what is he talking about  ;) ). Always wondered where we got it from  :D

That's a hot update Paul  $%Grinno$% it really sparkles  $%Grinno$%, nobody can Fawkes with you  $%Grinno$%

You know me, just couldn't resist. Like the pic's though. Fireworks are illegal here these days. Previously, Queens birthday was the only legal day we were able to use fireworks but this ended some 25 yrs ago. At least I'm old enough to have enjoyed 16 years of it, sitting in the backyard watching dad run back and forth lighting fuses (and he still has all his fingers  :) )

Enjoyed the update mate, can't wait to see what's next.

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on November 07, 2008, 02:31:57 AM
Paul - you're in the OSITM for the third time.... very well deserved but I had some frightening moments. I have a bad habbit of first looking at my favorite MD's when comming to SC4D, and when clicking the Classics page it was missing! So went straight to check the inactive MD's if it happened to drop in there and not seeing it there either I went with bouncing heart into the closed MD's  section, wondering what happened.... But thank god the Staff decided it's time to reward you a 3rd time, and they were so right to do so.

I like the updates that you did, and am anxiously looking forward to what you made of the peninsula.

See you soon.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 09, 2008, 02:57:12 PM
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David:  Thanks for your comment.

Pat:  You're welcome Pat, all part of the West End experience!

Matt:  Good to see you again Matt.  Thanks for the great comments.  Funnily enough, because our bonfire night is so close to Halloween, the wo seem to be getting increasingly "blurred" where people will hold a combined Halloween and Bonfire Party.  And yes, watch this space for the peninsular as some of your suggestions feature heavily!!

Derry:  Hehehe, yeah that splodge seems to have a few of you intrigued.

Joan:  Glad you liked the story of Guy Fawkes – I really wasn't sure how well known it is outside of the UK.  I have many great memories from my childhood of various firework/bonfire parties.

Dustin:  Well, I'm glad you found it of interest.  I'll have to try and think of what other British/English traditions I can introduce in West End.

Bat:  Cheers Bat.

Jon:  Yeah, the old guy likes Bonfire Night as much as a turkey likes Christmas (yes we eat Turkey at Christmas, not Thanksgiving!!)

Dave:  Well, I guess as much as we like to poke (harmless) fun at each other us Brits and Aussies have a fair amount in common.  I've heard of Ned Kelly (although don't know the whole story) and believe he's a bit of a modern day Robin Hood.  Great tooheys puns by the way!  And yeah, I remember plenty of fireworks that appeared to have gone out only to burst into life as my dad bent down to re-light it – what fun we had!!!!

Sebes:  Hehehe, so West End gave you a scare!  Don't worry, no plans to retire it just yet.  Great to see you again, hope you're keeping well and looking forward to a Rhenen update.


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Today we're going to focus on the Central District of Piccadilly.  This is where the bulk of the Comemrcial Buildings are, but there is also quite a few Residential buildings here as well.....

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This is the overview of the Central District.


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And here you can see that the area has its own problems.  These have been abandoned, mainly due to long commute times.


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City Hall is one of the most historic buildings in Piccadilly.


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And the W2W or Rowhouse developments in the heart of downtown are one of the things Piccadilly is famous for.


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Despite all of the high rise buildings, this neighbourhood still thrives right in the heart of the Central District.  Needless to say this area is pretty expensive to live in.


And the first West End mosaic for some time, shows a cross section of Central Distric life.....

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I hope you enjoyed this tour of the Central District.

'til next time.......................... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on November 09, 2008, 03:44:00 PM
Enjoy the trip - I always do  ::) :D :D
Its always a pleasure to visit West End ;D
Seems you have a problem with abandonment- I hope you find a solution to those commute times.
Have you tried changing the controller you have in the NAM? Just an idea that may help ;)

Till the next time
regards
Derry
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 09, 2008, 09:03:51 PM
Those commute times are a royal pain, and I don't really believe in them. I've seen buildings abandoned when a route query shows the ones left standing have commuters from farther away. The City Hall in 67.03 fits in beautifully, and the neighborhood in 67.05 looks great. The W2W row houses are an unfamiliar sight to me, but we do live in rather different environments, and both have their unique personalities.

The mosaic is very well done and provides a good visual composite of the area, both good and bad. And don't tell anybody I said so, but I'm starting to find GLR kind of interesting along with some of the newer transport innovations. I'm still a child of the south with a deep-seated southern heritage, but I think a few of the larger cities around these parts are using some sort of rail to transport the masses. Need to study that a bit more I guess.

It's always a pleasure to see a West End update, and this one is no exception. Good job!
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on November 10, 2008, 02:45:38 AM
Hey Paul  :)
This new update 67 is superb, your city is very good and very réalistic. Excelent work on this mosaic
67.05 is my preferate picture, with little houses, incredible &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on November 10, 2008, 09:07:26 AM
really great update Paul , all these pictures are awesome !! (except the problem with the abandonment  $%Grinno$% ). the mosaic is excellently done  &apls &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 10, 2008, 09:22:08 AM
Another update is on the books here Paul and another grand one it is!!! I loved your mosaic too!!  I soo cant wait too see whats in store for us next....
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 10, 2008, 09:52:52 AM
That's a really good update, looking forward to update 68!
Your city is looking fantastic! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on November 10, 2008, 03:29:48 PM
Nice update of the Central District. Sorry to see the dilapidation of the towers there. Hard to imagine the commute could be that bad, especially seeing the GLR station and that grand railroad terminal right there... bunch of lazy little... anyway, the city hall in the area looks nice and tv station is a nice touch. In regard to 67.04, how long did it take you to get all of those buildings to grow like that (and not just the main road of rowhouse, all the buildings seem to match their neighbors in some way). The homes in 67.05 are a great touch and it's nice to see a little low density remain in the area. The mosaic is quite well done too, and is that a tourist trap I see there? Well no wonder the buildings are abandoned, heh heh. I do have one question though, in 67.03, I thought the city hall was the nice beige building on the corner, but in the first bit of the mosaic, on the right, I see what looks like the 'game' city hall. Did I miss something in 67.03, or is that representative of something different in the mosaic. Great work on this Paul, and I hope Bonfire night was fun.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on November 10, 2008, 03:42:42 PM
Wow, Paul!

Such wonderful work you show us, with every update!

You're doing some great stuff here with your time in OSITM, my friend! Keep it up!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on November 12, 2008, 02:49:26 AM
Great stuff Paul.

I have to agree with Matt, you have more patience than me, waiting to get those lots to grow, whether it's in .04 or .05 .Well done  :thumbsup:

Don't you just hate "Deserted because of Commute Time". I'd blame the current economic woes  ;)

Like the mosaic, good to see the signature GLR and the parks/gardens along the main avenue look great.

Another superb update (but what else would we expect  &apls )

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on November 12, 2008, 08:23:40 AM
Yet another fine update, Paul!   &apls  I've been looking at the pictures off and on for a couple days now, but I just can't come up with any specific comments like I normally do.  Everything fits and blends together so well that it's hard to pick out any one thing to mention.  To me, this usually indicates a very well done area, so I guess that's what it is!   :D  The mosiac came out really well, and I like the monorail station you've used.

See you next time,
Jon
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Schulmanator on November 12, 2008, 05:52:08 PM
An enjoyable update. Definitely quality work here.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Sheep49 on November 12, 2008, 11:47:50 PM
Great update you have there, Paul! :thumbsup: I really like the railway station and its sorroundings. Ironicly, it seems like I don't like those rowhomes, and they're landmarks in Piccadilly :D

Anyway, pic 67.05 is awesome. Mattb houses really fit there ;)

Great update. Looking forward to more! :thumbsup:
Piotr
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 15, 2008, 12:43:22 AM
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Derry:  Thanks for the tip re NAM controller.  I'll give that a try.  And thanks for your comments, always nice to know West End is still keeping your interest.

Joan:  The commute times are generally the biggest problem I encounter when playing the game, so yes I share the frustration!  I'm pleased you like the City Hall – it's a building called "The Loyalty Building" and is not a city hall at all, but when I saw it sat there I thought that it looked as though it should be the City Hall!
And don't worry, your GLR secret is safe with me ;)

David:  Thanks for your comments here, glad you like the little houses.

Arthur:  Good to see you again, and yes abandonment is a real problem!

Pat:  Thanks for that mate and well, the next one is here and a little different I think.

Bat:  Cheers my friend, great to see you here as always.

Matt:  We've had Pat, Bat and Matt in succession, next time I want TheTeaCat to join the same chain – we need more rhyming in West End!  Thanks for your comments, I always enjoy reading them.  And yeah, lazy sims bug me too – must introduce a "eliminate lazy sim" ordinance!  As for the buildings in 67.04....they didn't take too long, they just kinda happened!  Only on small section was plopped, and that is the shops/offices between the GLR and road near the top centre of the pic.  And yes the low density in 67.05 is like a little oasis in a sea of high risers, I just thought the contrast would look good.  And as for the city hall, you're absolutely right.  My "City Hall" is really The Loyalty Building – I just thought it looked like a city hall.  And the real in game City Hall that you see is the headquarters of the local historical society (OK, so I just made that up!!)

Dustin:  Thanks for that and I enjoyed seeing your MD.  Must go over and check out what's happened since my last visit.

Dave:  Whoa, I have a signature "style" - Not sure if that's good or bad – but I enjoy GLR and Parks so think it must be good.  And nah I'm not that patient, just got lucky there.  Thanks for your kind words.

Jon:  Cheers mate – that is indeed a compliment.  Hopefully this update will give you something specific to say ;)

Schulmanator:  Hey thanks, I appreciate your comment.

Piotr:  Thanks for being poster 900.  Your double zero award will follow soon.  Thanks for the comments and yes row homes you either love, or hate!!



Today's update (number 68) is a mix of things.  I know the Mind Scape "MD Picture Quiz" is always fun so I've kinda pinched that idea (sorry Robin, hope you forgive me) and you know I like making videos, and I also enjoy a music quiz.  So I've combined all three.

Click on the YouTube video below, turn up the volume and try and name the eight Film theme tunes ans the eight MDs that you see.  Then post you answers here.  It would also be good to say how many times you had to watch the video to work it all out.

Enjoy!!


http://www.youtube.com/v/7fQS2MvLelY&hl=en&fs=1


'til next time...................... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on November 15, 2008, 12:52:00 AM
Your vidéo is really fantastic my friend
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 15, 2008, 01:36:20 AM
Paul splendid simply splended update here and I loved the video!!! OK so 8 songs and 8 MD's hmmm lets see here...

Songs


MD's


Well that is all I could figure out so far at 335 am cst for me lol and I got to get some sleep lol... BTW so far my count is up to at least 5x's heehehe :D :D :D
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 15, 2008, 01:54:58 AM
Great idea Paul! Never was good at "Name that Tune," but I'll take a whack at some of the MDs:

?
Monkey Island
Ennedi Plays Shosoloza
Mind Scape
Balnavia
Waterfalls
?
Covington

Think I got at least three!
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on November 15, 2008, 03:20:45 AM
I know none of the tunes by name - but you made a great selection going twith the pictures!

The MD's I think I have more knowledge
1 Rhenen
2 ?
3 Ennedi Shosaloza
4 Mindscape
5 Balnavia
6 Waterfalls
7 EJC's?
8 Covington
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Sheep49 on November 15, 2008, 03:55:59 AM
I have all MDs...
Rhenen
Monkey Island
Ennedi plays Shosalooza
Mind Scape
The Region of Belgravia
Waterfalls
Recreations by ejc
Covington

Themes...
Indiana Jones theme
Jaws theme
Chariots of Fire theme
Rocky theme
Jurrasic Park theme
...And nothing more :D

Good idea, by the way. And the way you made the video is superb too! :thumbsup:

See you later
Piotr
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 15, 2008, 05:59:00 AM
Wonderful work on that video and congrats on 900 and more replies! post 1000 will be mine...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 16, 2008, 09:59:09 AM
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David:  Hey thanks – but no guesses!!??

Pat:  Some nice tries there.  All of the theme tunes you guessed were right – the film was called Chariots of Fire!  And you got four of the MDs, good attempt Pat.

Joan:  All of your guesses were correct, so that's six for you!!

Sebes:  All of your MD guesses were correct (and ejc's MD is called Recreations).

Piotr:  You got all the MDs correct (although tooheys' MD is called Balnavia not Belgravia!).  And you got five of the eight film tunes – well done.

Bat:  Thanks – but no guesses?

Well, not too many attempts to guess here, so I'll give you the answers you have so far and maybe some little clues to find the missing ones:

MDs
1-Rhenen NN, by Sebes
2-Monkey Island, by Schulmanator
3-Ennedi plays Shosaloza, by Ennedi
4-Mind Scape, by rooker1
5-Balnavia, by tooheys
6-Waterfalls, by Pat
7-Recreations, by ejc
8-Covington, by JBSimio

Film Theme Tunes
1-Indiana Jones
2-.....????......  Think about ships at sea and a swashbuckling adventure
3-Rocky
4-......????......  How about a game of Quidditch
5-Jaws
6-......????......  A classic De Niro film
7-Chariots of Fire
8-Jurassic Park


And now I wanted to present Piotr his Double Zero Award for being the 900th poster in West End.

Seeing as we're on the film theme, I thought the award should be made in a video!!

http://www.youtube.com/v/puqtFQH3r3w&hl=en&fs=1



A "West End" update will follow real soon.

'til next time.......... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on November 16, 2008, 11:39:09 AM
Central District is lovely!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 16, 2008, 11:58:34 AM
6.) Is that DeNiro Film theme song possibility of "Falling in Love"??? Again I dont know if its the name of the song but I will bet its from this film!!!

Also thanks Paul I knew it was Chariots of Fire but I sooo didn't think that was the name of the song as well lol...

2.) hmmm "Pirates of the Carribean" come to mind about the swashbuckling adventures lol...

4.) Harry Potter!!!!

I will have to wait to till I get home to listen to the newest video siiigh, but overall the video so far is ACE!!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on November 16, 2008, 04:59:37 PM
Great videos, Paul!   &apls  The tribute to the Shepherd is brilliant... what a fitting idea.

I really enjoyed the first video... especially the way the music was fit to certain MDs.  The tone for some of them was amazingly accurate... the music behind Waterfalls is the best example what I mean by that.  (Although I wonder if Covington really deserved to sound so majestic!)  :D  Another thing I really noticed was the timing you used in a couple of places.    The mountain shot timed perfectly with the start of the Rocky Theme or the transitions set against the Jaws Theme.  Those are the little things that really show how much time and thought you put into these!

Looking forward to the next update!

JB
Title: Re: WEST END
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Krizstian:  Hey good to see you here – thanks for the comment.

Pat:  The De Niro film was The Deer Hunter.  You got the other two though.  Thanks for your taking part here Pat.

Jon:  Glad you liked the vids.  Have to confess I really enjoy putting them together, so I suspect you'll see some more (I have been thinking about turning West End into a Video MD for a certain month – what you think?).  Thanks for your comments about the timing – I try to make it work and funnily enough as I was putting the Jurassic Park music to Covington I could almost see the Brontosaurus wandering across those rolling hills you do so well!




And so the final answers to the Film Theme / MD quiz were:


MDs
1-Rhenen NN, by Sebes
2-Monkey Island, by Schulmanator
3-Ennedi plays Shosaloza, by Ennedi
4-Mind Scape, by rooker1
5-Balnavia, by tooheys
6-Waterfalls, by Pat
7-Recreations, by ejc
8-Covington, by JBSimio

Film Theme Tunes
1-Indiana Jones
2-Pirates of the Caribbean
3-Rocky
4-Harry Potter
5-Jaws
6-The Deer Hunter
7-Chariots of Fire
8-Jurassic Park


Whilst we're on the subject of films, here is a scene from one of my favourite films.  If you've seen the film I'm sure you'll recall this scene – if not it probably won't mean much.  Can you name the film?  And why is Al Pacino's dance that bit all the more special?

http://www.youtube.com/v/dBHhSVJ_S6A&hl=en&fs=1


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Here's a quick mosaic for you all to feast your eyes on!!!!

It's a slice of the action from the Edwards Bay district of Piccadilly....

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I know you all want to see the peninsular – well it's only a couple of updates away now, I promise, but in the meantime, here's a little teaser for you.....

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'til next time............... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 17, 2008, 12:19:16 PM
geezzs paul talking about being a little teaser there and one helllova nice mosaic!!!  :thumbsup: &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 17, 2008, 12:32:31 PM
Nice mosaic there! Great work on that area!
And looking forward to the area in the teaser... ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 17, 2008, 12:42:31 PM
Flawless mosaic, Paul. You've become quite a master of the technique. Glad you posted that teaser, too. Just knowing work on the peninsular is underway makes the wait a bit easier!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on November 17, 2008, 12:54:05 PM
for a little teaser, It's a (very $%Grinno$% ) little teaser  :P
the mosaic is awesome my friend, excellent work on it and on your city Paul  :thumbsup: the just thing is these dubai's luxury residential buildings, I think they don't go with your city style and they're a bit repetitive  ;) but it's just a detail  :D  The second thing I don't like is in the middle of the mosaic , this tower around little house , the transition is a bit too abrupt  ;) I really like the giant screen plaza  :thumbsup:  the road and tram layout look good  ;) just a question, why the seawalls stop in the bottom of the picture ?
Arthur
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on November 17, 2008, 02:27:10 PM
The scene is from "Scent of A Woman" I believe and the character that he plays is blind.

Sir I do say you have the most excellent taste both in your choices of music to accompany
your videos but also in your choice of movies too. :thumbsup:

Excellent way to honour the Shepard :thumbsup:

Superb mosaic too. Your skills have come onleaps and bounds since you started West End.  &apls
Its been a real joy following along   :D :D

Till the next time

Regards
Derry
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on November 17, 2008, 09:29:28 PM
Hi Paul,

The movie is definitely "Scent of a Woman" as Derry said.  I want to say the significance of the scene was simply the fact that it was his first "date" after a rather long dry spell, wasn't it?  (It's been a long time since I've seen the movie... so I'm honestly reaching here!)

On to the mosaic... Well, let's see... what can I possibly say anymore?  It looks great.   (Very original response, wouldn't you say?)  You really have an incredible knack for using buildings that I generally "don't like."  Now, don't get me wrong... I'm not knocking any of these at all.  Being a BATter myself, I find interest and wonder in just about every model that has ever been shown.  I'm speaking merely from a personal viewpoint regarding styles that may not necessarily match up with my tastes.  It certainly doesn't make them bad buildings... it just means that they don't quite match up with my own style of city building.  (For example, the Hong Kong BATs are incredible in so many ways... but at the same time, I'll probably never use them just because I rarely build skyscraper forrests.)  With that disclaimer out of the way... let me get back to my point (on the off chance that I actually have one!)  While you may use all sorts of buildings that I normally would not, you have a way of making them look perfect in your pictures.  I'm not sure why that is and I don't even care to venture a guess... all I know is that you take things that I would normally overlook and turn them into something that makes perfect sense and catches the eye in the best possible way.

I really like the avenue that goes down to the ferry dock there.  It's a fairly intense slope, but it works very well.  I may be nitpicking, but I have to say that I do have one small problem with it though.  Where does this avenue go?  Does it just turn the corner and narrow down to that road fronting the water there?  It seems to me that this would be a pretty major transportation link, but I really can't tell.  Maybe it tunnels under the other avenue and surfaces just to the left of your picture... I don't know, but I would love to find out!  ;)

Talk to you next time,
JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on November 18, 2008, 11:50:43 AM
Wow  :o this mosaic is fabulous my friend, your city is looking so réalistic
Fantastic work  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 19, 2008, 01:21:00 PM
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Pat:  Hehehe, you liked the little teaser then!  And thanks re the mosaic.

Bat:  Thanks as always to Bat.

Joan:  You'll be pleased to know work on the Peninsular (and indeed on the whole of Piccadilly) is complete now.  I think there's enough material for two or three more updates before we move on (to what I'm not sure yet!)

Arthur:  Thanks for the comments.  I know what you mean about the Dubai Towers.  Maybe I should "weed" more of them out in future to cut down on repetitiveness.  And I also see your point about the big towers surrounding the small houses.  It's funny whilst you're building you don't often notice these things yourself.  Thanks for the comments, they are very useful and will only help me improve in future.

Derry:  Correct on both fronts there Derry.  It is one of my "top ten" films of all time, Pacino is awesome in it, I'm glad you like it too.  Thanks for all the compliments.  You know, West End was launched on 1st September 2007 and your first visit was on 2nd September 2007, so you really have been with us from the start – thanks for staying the distance!!

Jon:  Whoa what an awesome comment.  You know yourself just how much time goes into an MD so it's always great to get such a reply.  And yep, Scent of a Woman.  He was indeed going through a "dry" spell, but that girl was not his date, he was kinda showing his friend Charlie how to chat with the ladies.  But the point I was getting at was the fact he was blind but still managed to dance the tango so well.

As for building selection...... my plugins folder was just so full that my cities were starting to look a bit too "random", so I spent hours (and I mean hours) re-organising my plugins and now I have a folders for UK, US and Euro and Houses, Mid Rise and High Rise.  This way I can be as specific as I want (or don't want) to be on each tile.  For Piccadilly I chose Euro and UK folders – hence why there are not many "American looking" residential buildings here.  Simgoober has his own folder so they can crop up anywhere and to be more American in style.  So hopefully that is why they seem to fit together.

And as for that avenue...... that ferry port needs an avenue coming out of it, and as it was so close to the road up the incline it just seemed to fit to run the avenue between the road and the terminal.  I guess you could say an avenue is a bit over the top – but it kinda fitted better that way.

David:  Hey thanks for such kind words.


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Today we're taking a tour of the Edwards Bay and Bay Park districts of Piccadilly.  Let's just remind ourselves of the layout of Piccadilly with the city overview:
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And now the overview of the districts.  Edwards Bay is to the left and Bay Park is to the right.
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Edwards Bay is home to more of the mid and high wealth towers.  The views across the bay are highly desirable.
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The marina is arguably the focal point of Edwards Bay.  Its twin towers are proud landmarks at the heart of the Bay's image.
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The Community School has plenty of expensive cars dropping the kids off each day.
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Plenty of developers have tried to get their hands on this area of land, but the home owners just love the location too much, with a pool, a library and gardens nearby who would want to sell up?
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Bay Park is a place to unwind, and also very close to the National Sports Complex.
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Just the other side of Bay Park is the Athletes Village which serves the National Sports Complex.  I have to admit this took some time to get just the right buildings to grow, plenty of bulldozing and making sure to "make historical".
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Of course, the main focal point of Bay Park is the park itself, let's have a closer look:
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And we'll finish off with the part of Piccadilly that links Bay Park with the Peninsular.
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Normally I'd use retaining walls where there is the change in height, but left it plain this time.  What do you think of the effect – to use walls or to leave blank?


I promise the next update will feature the Peninsular and I can also say that I have developed it using the ideas many of you suggested.

'til next time............... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 19, 2008, 01:32:52 PM
Hey Paul I enjoyed this update here with Edwards Bay and man I would love to live in the Twin Towers Complexe there!!! That has to be a grand view!! Athlete's park is grand too!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: shaylan221 on November 19, 2008, 02:35:25 PM
nICE uPDATE!!



How did you get all those custom houses to grow instead of Maxis ones?
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on November 19, 2008, 11:29:40 PM
Hi Paul,

You make an excellent point (or suggestion?) about juggling your plugins.  As I've been redoing mine, I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that I will need to do the same.  I guess I just need to motivate myself enough to put in the monumental effort of finding, grouping, moving, and packing different folders like you were saying.  I also hesitate to do this because (as you've seen and mentioned) I tend to vary my styles within the same city tile... which won't work at all if I go too far with the idea.  Anyway... on to the update!

61.01 & 70.01 - I really like the contrast between these two.  In the first picture, I can definitely see a fairly well defined area of taller buildings.  Yet, the second picture shows (or maybe emphasises would be a better word) just how much open space and parkland there is within that same area.

70.03 - I absolutely love how those two buildings look... you've done a great job with those few tiles surrounding the lots and marinas to really set it apart as its own little pocket of greatness.

70.04 - Nice school...  :D

70.05 - Another great contrast... I really like these small sections of "under-developed" spots you've been showing lately.

70.07 - I know only too well how many times you must have had to bulldoze to get this one the way it is.  The effort was well worth it though and it turned out very nicely.  I like the tramway running through there as well... seems very fitting given your history of the development.

All the parks look great... I just couldn't think of anything specific to say about any single picture.  They all look to create some amazing views for all those lucky residents.

&apls  &apls  &apls

Until we meet again... ;)
JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 20, 2008, 12:57:08 AM
Your city looks really beautiful! Nice overview! And great pictures... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 20, 2008, 01:15:02 AM
Very impressive update, Paul. You already know how much I like the overviews - not just because they're functional but because they look really good! :thumbsup: The two bays and the marina make for an attractive combination. The school campus (70.04) turned out well, too. I like the walkway around that flat playing field! BTW, what is that building at the very top just to the left of the twin citrus towers?

The Athlete's Village (70.07) is an interesting concept, and one you know I'd never have thought of! And of course there are those lovely parks - an element I've come to think of as one of your trademarks. You do such a fine job on them.

Love the way you wound things up with the Gateway to the Peninsular, too. So now that you've served up the gateway, dare I hope we can enter?

You're doing a great job here and I hope to see much more of the unique region we all know as West End.

Later...Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on November 20, 2008, 04:05:16 AM
70.01 is my preferate picture of your city my friend, this is an excelent update
:o &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on November 20, 2008, 04:14:30 AM
this update is really great Paul, all these pictures are looking fantastic my friend. The stadium's area is very well done, like the marina and these parks  :thumbsup: Like Joan said, the athletes village is interesting  &apls
Arthur
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: dedgren on November 23, 2008, 11:40:35 AM
Paul, most excellent work here at West End as always.

QuoteNormally I'd use retaining walls where there is the change in height, but left it plain this time.  What do you think of the effect – to use walls or to leave blank?

That slope caught my eye as I slowly scrolled through the update.  From a RL standpoint, I thing any slope that isn't natural rock with a face of much more that 10-15 degrees would suffer erosion and slump that would soon leave large bits of that neighborhood at the bottom.  Unfortunately, too, the game makes any elevation change like that entirely too regular, with a "knife edge" crest at the top and corresponding change at the bottom.  I was looking at the color- is that the natural color of the cliff mod you use- it seems very green?

All in all, I would go with some older-appearing concrete walls.  A set of steps down here and there might be nice, too.

Great job in any event!


David
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on November 23, 2008, 01:11:54 PM
Nice to visit West End again  :)

It' a real pleasure to look at your pictures, I can always find a lot of interesting details there. And I love general views, they are very diversified and realistic!  :thumbsup:

QuoteNormally I'd use retaining walls where there is the change in height, but left it plain this time.  What do you think of the effect – to use walls or to leave blank?

It is not necessary to use retaining walls everywhere, sometimes it can become boring  :)
You can leave this wall as is, but I'd suggest to hide lots' edges by trees or some Chrisadams' flora, it will look much more natural
Edit: Or if you would cover the wall by park pieces (grass only) and put some trees here and there, you would optically remove the slope at all  :)

Adam
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 23, 2008, 11:14:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/jTP1RIV1YBo&hl=en&fs=1
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on November 23, 2008, 11:29:07 PM
WOW!!!   &apls

I knew once you got to this point, it would be a very special update... but you've truly outdone yourself, Paul!  So as not to give too much away, I'll just say it all looks great.  There are some very different elements here, but you managed to fit them all together and make them flow beautifully.  Well done... bravo... jolly good... and whatever other similar phrases come to mind.   :thumbsup:

JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 24, 2008, 01:55:40 AM
Double WOW!  I know the peninsular has been on your mind for some time now, and I knew it would be great when it finally appeared, but this is just nothing short of awesome! Actually, I had forgotten most of the suggestions offered, but I do remember how diverse they were. I never expected you to incorporate all of them, but if I had guessed your plan, I would have known you'd accomplish the impossible with a more than a touch of class!

You've always had a special way of sharing West End with us, Paul. Many MD authors build and post, build and post. But you've drawn me (and others, I believe), into the heart of the development process and allowed us to be a part of it. That's one of many things that have made it unique and such a pleasure to visit.

Great job...
Joan



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 24, 2008, 09:02:37 AM
That's an awesome video there! Excellent pictures of your city! And great work on that part with the zoo! Nice! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on November 24, 2008, 11:49:08 AM
Wow, this vidéo is really good my friend as well  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on November 24, 2008, 02:15:59 PM
Fantastic &apls

Stumped for words  that's not like me  $%Grinno$%

Wonderful the way you incorporated all the suggestions that you got and as Joan said
Quote from: Jmouse on November 24, 2008, 01:55:40 AM
You've always had a special way of sharing West End with us, Paul. Many MD authors build and post, build and post. But you've drawn me (and others, I believe), into the heart of the development process and allowed us to be a part of it. That's one of many things that have made it unique and such a pleasure to visit.
I couldn't have said it better (Thanks Joan :thumbsup:)

Once again Paul you've come up with the goods with a very special video for a special month.
Thanks for sharing it with us all :thumbsup:

:satisfied:
TTC



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 24, 2008, 08:19:06 PM
Paul I just don't know what to say at all but WoW!!! I will have to come back and watch the full video later with sound and all as I am stuck at work for a little bit longer but anyways I like the oppening and everything niiiice!!!! I cant wait to get home to watch the full video!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on November 25, 2008, 05:41:28 AM
't Is een plaatje! (translation: It's gorgeous!) A nice mix of all those ideas. Chapeau!  :thumbsup:

Best,
Maarten
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on November 25, 2008, 06:17:11 AM
Ahh Paul, Sorry I have been absent.  I will have to go back and look through your last few updates soon, but for now that was a wonderful video, but I need some pictures so I can pour over them and fully appreciate the area.  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on November 26, 2008, 02:40:39 AM
Paul great work my friend  :thumbsup:

The video is beautifully done, a great mix of developing areas, stills and "live" shots.

Update 70 is just as good. Nice overview in .01, fave's were the area highlighted in .04 to .06. Good choice of lots and I like how you have worked with JB's school  &apls I'm guessing the curved building is the library, got a link, I like.

As for the walls, I pretty much agree with David. You certainly need a wall across the front where the slope is at it's steepest. This could probably continue around the corner for a short distance then make it natural, rocks, trees or just grass on the lesser slopes. Them's my thoughts anyway.

Well the month is almost up Paul, it has gone quick. West End is always on the move, but you have really stepped things up this month and it's all good   ()stsfd()  So can we expect a huge finale, I hope so  :) 

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on November 29, 2008, 07:02:28 AM
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Adam:  I'm sorry I missed your reply from the video – by the time I saw your post it was too far developed to go back!!  And thanks for the suggestions re the retaining walls.

Jon:  Thanks Jon, I am pleased you liked the vid.

Joan:  Hey what a great comment, thanks Joan.  I have to admit I really enjoyed building the peninsular and incorporating all the different ideas.  And I get a buzz out of doing the videos as well – there's still plenty more ideas buzzing round my head!!

Bat:  I'm happy that you liked the video (I think it's the best one I've done so far!)

David:  Thanks for that.

Derry:  You're welcome my friend and thanks for the great comment – it's nice to know people appreciate the hours of work that goes into an update like that!

Pat:  Well I hope you got to see the whole vid with music Pat and thanks for your constant support here.

Maarten:  Thanks for that, always nice to get such comments.  And I like your new avatar by the way!

Shaun:  Good to see you here mate.  Glad you liked the vid, and your wish is my command re the pics......

Dave:  Thanks mate.  I'll try and find the curved library building and post you the link – can't think of the name of it at present.  It's always good to get such comments, so thanks for that and not sure about the big finale..... I'm pretty much out of developed tiles to show you now, so I'm just gonna post some of the peninsular pics in detail.


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You know, the video I posted in update 71 took me about three hours to put together.  I enjoyed doing it very much, and I am very pleased with the end result.  I also know from your comments that you all liked the video as well.    So, for those who missed the last update, here it is again.......

http://www.youtube.com/v/jTP1RIV1YBo&hl=en&fs=1


Shaun suggested that he'd like to see some pics so he can see the details – well your wish is my command mate!

Today's update is going to show you how I created the Botanical Gardens which was first suggested by Shaun (Diggis):

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This is the basis straight path.  I used the BSC park grass and paths textures so that it would be compatible with the BSC parks that I planned to use in other parts of the botanical gardens.  I also added a hedge on one side to give it a different, more formal appearance from the standard BSC park set.

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And here you can see the paths in action, they run alongside the Diggis Shingle Bank Pond (great set btw Shaun!) and you'll notice that I also made T juntion, X junction and corner paths with the same hedges for continuity.


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This lot was designed to switch the wide path from the Greenhouse into the narrow paths just shown above.  I thought the addition of the trees would just give it more of a feel of a Botanical Garden.  Again, BSC park textures are used to keep the continuity.

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Here it is in-game.  You can see this lot both above and below the greenhouse.


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Next on the agenda was an entrance building.  I used only a limited set of prop packs (D66 and RT plus BSC Parks), so my choice was somewhat restricted, but I settled on this building by RipTide.  The addition of the trees was just to give the lot some more interest.

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This shot shows a good overview of the eastern half of the Botanical Gardens.  You can see two of the entrance lots at the bottom of the Gardens.  The insert shows a closer shot of one of the entrances.


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This lot was designed with the Head Gardener's residence in mind.  I was really pleased with it – but seemed to accidentally delete the lot, as it just vanished from my plugins!  Shame, as I think it would have been a nice addition to the Gardens.


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Botanical Gardens need gardens, so this lot was intended to be one of the special gardens.  I think you can see from this LE shot just how many props make up the overall effect.  D66's flowers and bushes certainly came in handy for this.

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Here they are with the paths running alongside them.  You'll also notice that I used many of the "standard" BSC 2x2 Park lots throughout the Gardens.


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This is the Rock Garden lot.  The idea of this was to provide some rockery and pond type gardens.

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Rock Gardens next to one of the Greenhouses.

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Rock Gardens clustered near one of the ponds.


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Here is a 3x3 zig-zag garden, making use of D66's formal hedge garden props.

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In-game shot – and yikes, there are a couple of tiles I forgot to plop on!!


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The food court!  This was one of my favourites to make.  RipTide's props were just right for this.

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Here it is near the pond, plus one of the 3x3 zig-zag gardens is just next to it!


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This lot was intended to fill a large space in the Gardens.  It was meant to represent a tree planting area.  Funnily enough I couldn't find a space large enough to plop it, so I never got an in-game pic!!


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This lot is a 6x6 formal gardens, where symmetry is key to achieving the effect I wanted.  I like to think that the fountain and the gazebos give the lot a formal and peaceful feeling.

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Here you can see how by making the lots BSC Park compliant the formal gardens just slot in effortlessly with their surroundings. 


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The formal pond that is part of RipTide's Palacio Cristal lot.  I knew I wanted it as part of Piccadilly's Botanical Gardens so created this very simple lot.

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I think this picture demonstrates that a very simple lot can be transferred into an area that is much more complex and involved that the simple lot itself.


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The large greenhouse is the centrepiece of the Botanical Gardens.  I had in mind that there would be more than one when placed in-game.  I liked the idea of symmetry for this lot and wanted some plantings in the corners. Luckily I was able to find just the prop.

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A close up of one of the greenhouses.

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Here's an ultra close up – which shows the fantastic level of detail RipTide provided when he made this building.

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An overview of the four greenhouses located around the two ornamental ponds.  Each greenhouse contains plants from a different continent.


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Piccadilly Botanical Gardens overview picture.


Well, I hope you enjoyed seeing the Gardens in more detail.  If I get the chance I'll show the rest of the peninsular tomorrow, if not it will be some time in the next week.

'til next time...................... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on November 29, 2008, 07:26:41 AM

Excellent Update Paul &apls

Very interesting to see how you did it all with the LE.
Your skill in using it is evident from the wonderful lots you created.
How well you blended them in with the BSC Park set and how sometimes less is more  ;) :thumbsup:

I really like how you showed the ingame shots as well
(glad I brought a thermos of tea with me for the stoll round again ::) :D)
As I just didn't get the chance to see them properly in the slideshow
You've gotten real good at them too. (3 hrs ()what()  would have taken me all day ::))

And yes I'd like to see some closeups of the Penisula too ;)

Till the next time

Derry
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on November 29, 2008, 08:27:32 AM
Nice job on that new update! And great work on the botanical garden, it looks really nice!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on November 29, 2008, 02:20:38 PM
Paul omg wow!!!! I want those so bad!!! WOW!!!!! Stunning detail and beauty!!!! Its been my honor to come here sir and support you...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: flyinbird93 on November 29, 2008, 05:30:18 PM
thats awesome you created your own park in the lot editor!  Looks wonderful good job!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on November 30, 2008, 02:21:46 AM
WOw, my friend :o I love this update 72,your park is really fantastic and so réalistic.
You have done a really super work on the L.E.

Looking forward to the next update Paul  ;)


David
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: kwakelaar on November 30, 2008, 02:34:16 AM
A beautiful botanical garden :thumbsup: I also very much like how you have made your coastline with the rocky outcrops and the beach.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on November 30, 2008, 02:46:19 AM
What can I say, what an update. Given that most of the park is your own creation, that must have taken you many hours to complete. Worth it though, brilliant result  &apls &apls. Something I'd love to do if I could find the time.

A great finish to a great month. Keep it up Paul, I can see you being the first to 4 OSITM.

Dave

PS: "NUTs-Paroch Park Lots" is looking good  ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: rooker1 on November 30, 2008, 12:05:18 PM
Great work on the park and I love that you added the LE views.

Robin  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bob56 on November 30, 2008, 12:10:32 PM
That's amazing! One problem with SC4 parks is you have to plop so many time-consuming puzzle pieces, but your end result is amazing! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on November 30, 2008, 02:18:57 PM
Fantastic update, Paul!!!   &apls  I really like and appreciate the fact that you've taken the time to show us all the work "behind the scenese" that you put into this park.  (On the contrary, bob56... I personally think putting those puzzles together is half the fun)

As Kwakelear said, the rocky shoreline does indeed look very good... I didn't notice it in the video, but it's a great view in the picture here.  I love the 2x2 transition lot!  It's decievingly simple looking, but I'm willing to bet it took some time to figure out how that part was going to work.  Shame to hear about the cottage lot as I really like the way that one looked too.  I could go on and on about each individual piece, but it's probably easier (on both of us!  :D) if I just summarize by saying the park as a whole came out wonderfully and the individual lots are works of art unto themselves.

My question now is, making all of these lots as you did... how much of this park did you have completely mapped out in advance vs. how much just developed as you went along?  It seems that you had some very specific things already in mind going in, but I know from my own experience that this doesn't necessarily mean you sat down with some graph paper and plotted the entire thing first either.  So I'm just curious... ;)

See you next time!
JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on November 30, 2008, 09:20:00 PM
You may have been away from the LE for a bit, but you've certainly come back with a bang! As if the park isn't lovely enough on its own, you've showed us how you created it! If some or all of those lots will be available on the LEX, I know just where I could use them. If not, I'll certainly use them as a pattern for Twin Pine's back yard.

Like JB, I'm wondering how much of this was planned and how much turned out to be spur-of-the moment developments. Either way, though, the finished product is absolutely stunning! Gorgeous formal gardens are something I associate with the UK, and you have done well to keep that vision in tact.

The peninsular's long-awaited development
has been a fitting cap for your third round in OSITM, and well worth waiting for. You have done some great work this month, and I hope you'll continue the trend.

Now if we could just have a bit of traffic data... :P
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Lilojame on December 04, 2008, 01:50:55 AM
Hi!
I took me a very good 2 hours to see all the updates you posted and read all the text you have written and I have to say that I am very impressed. I will not comment on every single thing that you showed in here but I do promise to stay in tune now and be back for every update from today on that you will do. But as an overall impression of your work, I do have to say, that is superb and was interesting to see how the things were evolving.
I shall also say, that the video with the "name 8 tunes and MDs" was really great to watch. And the botanic gardens look stunning.
To sum everything up, you are doing a gorgeous job in here!

Have fun,
Karin ()borg()
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: 05greene on December 04, 2008, 09:09:33 AM
Woo great Md

inm liking the park

just ashame ur a westham supporter ;D
Arsenal!!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on December 04, 2008, 10:39:29 AM
Awesome lots Paul, great work !!
The aerial view is simply awesome my friend.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Arthur .
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on December 07, 2008, 12:29:20 AM
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I always enjoy reading the comments form West End's regular visitors and newcomers alike.  And this update has seen 5 new posters here – so a BIG thank you for dropping by.


Derry:  Hey thanks for those great comments there.  Hopefully there was enough in the thermos to last the whole trip  ;) – and here is the final pics from the peninsular.

Bat:  Thanks for stopping by.

Pat:  I'm glad you liked them.  Unfortunately the lots aren't really in a condition to make public......yet.  But I am tempted to do some more work on them (mainly things like queries, stats and icons) to get them up to LEX standards.

Flyinbird:  Welcome to West End – it's always good to see a newcomer and thanks for your comment  :)

David:  Thanks for those great words.

Kwakelar:  Hey, welcome to West End.  It's good to see you here as I have made use of your props on MANY occasions.  And thanks for your words, I enjoyed creating the rocky coast, so am pleased you noticed.

Dave:  Cheers Dave – yes it took some time to create, more on the LE side than the actual plopping.  OSITM x 4 – well that would be a dream  ()stsfd() , but it's hard to know what new I can do to keep the interest in West End going.  And as for the NUTs-Paroch Parks – hmmmmm, it seems a nice idea!

Robin:  You're welcome re the LE views.  I thought it would make a nice change!

Bob56:  Welcome to West End to you too.  I have to say that I enjoy creating parks.  The BSC alignment arrows make things much simpler, so they do save some time for sure.

Jon:  Thanks for such a detailed comment  :thumbsup:  The 2x2 connector piece was interesting because as you say, it goes from a very wide path, to a narrow path and there are so many different textures in the BSC Park set that it did take some time to get it just so.  As for the question of how well planned it was.....Certainly no paper plan was prepared.  I had a rough idea that the park would cover most of the peninsular and leave space on the south shore for the marina.  As for the layout of the park, well I know I wanted four greenhouses in a cross type formation and the formal pools in the middle of that cross seemed appropriate.  As for the rest......it was really just made up as I went along.  I knew I wanted to include Shaun's ponds and I'm pleased they fitted in so well.  Thanks for asking.

Joan:  I'm pleased you liked the update with LE views and, time permitting, I do plan to bring the lots up to scratch, maybe add in a few more lots and then work towards a LEX release.  Hopefully my response to Jon answered many of your questions.  As for formal gardens making you think of the UK....well I must admit that I did draw on some ideas from Kew Gardens (large botanical gardens in London) and Audley End House (formal mansion house and gardens in my native Essex).  Now, as for that traffic data....... maybe the next large quad as Piccadilly is now closed in my mind and I know if I go back in, I'll spend another couple of days tidying up things I don't like  ;)

Karin:  Another warm welcome to West End.  And WOW, you went through the whole MD, that is impressive  &apls .  Two hours does not surprise me, so thank you for taking that time.  And of course I'm pleased you liked the vid and the botanic gardens and I look forward to seeing you here again.

05greene:  Another warm welcome to West End.  You are the fifth new visitor after this update.  Glad you liked the park and hey, if you like football then you'll enjoy West End, we've held  a couple of MD football tournaments and ALL of my cities have plenty of footie pitches and stadium in.  I even have an update planned to honour West Ham some time soon and I just know you'll love that  :D

Arthur:  Thanks my friend, always good to see you here.


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I really enjoyed being in OSITM for an amazing third time.  A BIG thanks for this has to go to you all.  If West End did not have so many visitors, it would not get there, so I want to let you know I really do appreciate your support here.  And of course a BIG thanks to the MD Mods and Staff here at SC4Devotions for making this the best place to host an MD.


Today is our last visit to Piccadilly.  I've enjoyed this quad and it was always meant to be one of the two major boroughs within West End, so hopefully I've achieved that.

Well enough words, let's have a look at the rest of the Peninsular.


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The waterfront area is really popular with both tourists and residents alike.  With its mix of boats, waterfront shops, restaurants plus the Heywood Hotel Resort, it really does have something for everyone.


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Here you can see a selection of the restaurants and shops.  Personally the Plaza Azteca Mexican is my favourite place to eat in Piccadilly.


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The five towers stand guard over the peninsular.


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This BAT by dmscopio is one I really like loads.  I think it just has something a bit different about it and I like the way three of them together work to create this image.  Placing one on a beach lot really adds to the over effect I think, so THANKS to dmscopio for thinking of that!


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The beach is a popular place to hang out on a hot sunny summer's day.


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And for a bit of nautical history, the Piccadilly Point Lighthouse stands proud at the tip of the Peninsular.


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Of course, a visit to Piccadilly without at least some suburban housing just wouldn't be complete – so here it is!


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It was Joan who suggested a zoo would be a good idea for the Peninsular, so here it is.


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And to close out Piccadilly – an overview of the Peninsular.


I hope you all enjoyed Piccadilly as much as I have.  Next up in West End is..............well, I don't want to spoil the surprise.  All I'll say is the next two small quads have already been finished and are waiting for you all!

'til next time............ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on December 07, 2008, 02:40:50 AM
You do a superb work on this marina Paul, this place of your city is looking fine !  &apls
I think with some trees along the trams line, that could be cool !
Arthur.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on December 07, 2008, 08:36:29 AM
Ten fantastic pictures there for your 73rd update!!! Great work on it!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on December 07, 2008, 10:37:49 AM
I've seen many West End quads come and go in the past 15 months, but Piccadilly and her beautiful peninsular will remain always high among favorites. Certainly because of its beauty, but in part because you gave us a small part in designing it.

Anyone occupying one of the five towers is fortunate indeed to have such a spectacular view - from every direction. Planned or not, the positioning couldn't have been better. And I love the marina. It's just right without being overdone or skimpy. The hotels are not BATs I would have chosen for my own use, but you've placed them to best advantage. They kind of "grow on you" so to speak (sorry, stupid American expression!).

You did a really good job on the lighthouse and the neighborhoods look great. You've managed to get a lot of housing into a small space and still make the area look green and inviting. Then, the overview says it all! :thumbsup:

Hope you'll find time to package those garden lots - they are well worth the time and trouble.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on December 08, 2008, 06:09:34 AM
Paul,

Thank you for the botanical gardens pictures.  It was every but as stunning as it looked in the video, and then some.  And it was great to see the work you put into the lots.  I look forward to seeing these up on the LEX soon.

I think you need to redo the cottage lot, although the BSC series has a gardners compund too.  I think the pond needs something for visitors to play with along the edge.  Let me get hold of my contractors and see what they can do for you.  Dave has kindly offer to foot the bill. Said he'll pay in the usual manner.  :D
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: M4346 on December 08, 2008, 06:16:23 AM
Ooooh! I really LOVED the botanical gardens!  &apls &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on December 09, 2008, 06:38:45 AM
I'll book a few nights in one of the resorts  ;D

This place looks very, very nice!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on December 09, 2008, 10:09:38 AM
Sorry Paul for my absenteïsm lately... RL is attacking me from all directions again - so hardly time to spend a lot of time to the game (and developping Rhenen) and this site (as a MD'er or even as a commenter). However, I am in lurkmode. There are a few MD's where I logon for, to quickly scan the updates.... Not spending so much time to them as I would love to, but: staying tuned to avoid becomming a stranger in town!

And Westend is one of them - even if not leaving a comment, be assured that I lurk here at least once a week!

The gardens were gorgeous - I loved them, and at least left a comment on You Tube mate!

Continue developping Westend by adding more of this excellent stuff, and know that I will still follow you and this MD, wherever you go with it, and whatever busy I might be.. always! (amen)

(just noticing how close you are to the 1000th post.... As I made the first 00-post of many more to follow, I hope to be also here when the first 000 of a row will be made.... so - maybe reason to log on daily for the next days....)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on December 09, 2008, 12:57:15 PM
Ahhh... another fine round of pictures from Piccadily.  It's almost a shame to hear it's time to move on Paul, as I too have really enjoyed watching this tile.  But, at the same time, I'm always eager to see what you have in store for the next installment.  On to the pictures, though, huh?

73.01 is a great overview with the marina... shops and eateries... all backed up with some very impressive high rises.  The layout is great and it all fits together in such a realistic way.  On top of which, it just looks pretty darn good too!  I also love the close ups in the next few pictures.

73.05 is yet another example of those differences between our two MDs.  That building by Dmscopio is definitely very cool, but I doubt it will ever make an appearance in my cities.  (I just don't think the southerners in Covington would know what to think of it!)  :D  I agree that the beach lot was a great idea.  The whole set up does a good job of bringing a tropical island resort into Piccadily.

73.07 is just a very pretty shot.... nothing more needs to be said really!   :thumbsup:

73.08 looks very lush and green.  It nice to see such tree lined neighborhoods have been able to survive the denser growth of the peninsula(r) and I'm sure these single family homes are well sought after.

73.09 is another fine example of the fact that not all standard Maxis lots have been rendered useless even today.  With all the custom content we have to play with, it's nice to see some of the original lots still holding their own.  I've always liked the standard zoo... it's such a great lot even if it is ridiculously undersized for what it was meant to represent.

And finally, the overview in 73.10 just pulls it all together into one truly amazing area.  The peninsula(r) ;) was well worth the wait and really shows how much you invested in making it just perfect.  I've really enjoyed all the different updates centered around this area.

See you for the next big surprise!
JB

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Lilojame on December 11, 2008, 06:36:50 AM
Hi again!

It was well worth spending that time in here. ;) As for yours last update, it is superb! I don't believe I can add anything to what others already said, I can just add my agreeing voice to their comments.
You are doing such and amazing job that it is hard to describe!  &apls &apls &apls

See you after your next update,
Karin ()borg()
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on December 13, 2008, 06:49:58 AM
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Arthur:  Hi, thanks for the suggestion re the trees.  I've closed the quad down now – but next time I will try that out.

Bat:  Thanks my friend – and here is update 74!!

Joan:  Well, I'm pleased you've enjoyed Piccadilly and have to admit I enjoyed throwing the peninsular open to suggestions for development – it certainly made it interesting for me too.  I'd say watch this space as I will continue to aim for reader involvement in future.  Thanks for the comments re the marina and I know what you mean about the Hotel Bats – they are different and they fitted what I wanted, i.e. a landmark building that would "stand out".  I certainly don't think I could use them in every quad, but from time to time they certainly achieve the desired look.

Shaun:  You're welcome Shaun – I enjoyed building them and yes, I will work on them to get ready for LEX – maybe when I have more time during the Christmas break.  As for your ponds – yes some "pond junk" would be great – maybe some swans, or a little boating house with row boats.  Or a fisherman or two??

M4346:  Hi and Welcome to West End – I think this is your first post here.  Thanks for your comments and hopefully see you here again.

Maarten:  The penthouse suite has been booked.  I'm told the best time to stay would be over New Year as a large party is planned to see in 2009!

Sebes:  Hey man, I've missed you!!  Thanks for the words – they're good to read.  You've always been a great West End supporter so it's good to know you're still around.  As for RL – take care and I hope all sorts itself out.  As for the 1000th post – yes it's not far away and I hope that one of the regulars bags it and of course you are one of the regulars!!

Jon:  Wow, what a great set of comments – thanks.  It's interesting that both you and Joan commented on the Heywood Resort Hotels.  Obviously you American's are more conservative when it comes to architecture  ;)  I would like to create a beach resort area in a future quad, so that one may make another appearance some time.  I'm glad you enjoyed the peninsula(r) and as for what's next – it contains a large slice of Covington inspiration!!

Karin:  Thanks for those words- they are always nice to read and I'm glad to see you here again.


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Way back in update 61 (13th September) I showed a region shot and told you what plans I had in mind for upcoming development.  Here is that picture again:
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Well, you know that the peninsular in Piccadilly has been completed as has the rest of Piccadilly.

I've had the new airport in mind for some time – but before I started that quad I decided to fill in some farming areas around it.  Many airports I've seen in SC4 have been built right in the middle of the city – which is not always that realistic.  I decided that West End's new international airport would be set in a more rural are a short distance from the major population areas.

The picture above says "two medium sized farming quads".  Well, that was wrong!  It's actually one medium sized and two small quads.  And today we're going to see the start of development of the northern small quad – called:

Berners




The "naked" quad.  The highway was laid at the very start of West End.  Given the farming nature of the quad I thought RHW may be better.
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So here I've bulldozed the Maxis Highway and replaced with RHW and added a kink to the road to make it look more natural in Region View.  I'm still new to RHW- that junction took me about an hour!!
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Now the roads and streets are laid to support the farms and the small village.
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And PEGs dirt road SAM texture is used to add a bit more authenticity to the farming roads.
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Here I've zoned in all of the farms that the quad will hold.  Plus you may notice power and water just south of the junction.
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I tried to use JBSimio's Covington style for zoning farms, i.e. not all regular shapes and also leaving differing sizes of gaps between the farms.

Now the farms are really growing.
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Laying the "R" and "C" zones for the small village.
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And there is the quad pretty much developed.  Trees have been added to give it more of a realistic feel, and the village zones have grown.
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An overview of the village.  You may notice three of the fours things a village must have..... A school, a church and a football pitch.  What's missing?  Why the pub, of course!!
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A closer zoom into the village shows that almost all available zones have been developed.
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Hey look – a few Mouse House 70's have been built here in Berners.  In fact, it seems that there are a few different building styles in this small village.
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With two cheque cashing shops on the High Street I'm starting to think that maybe folks are feeling the credit crunch even here in Berners.  And look – whilst not exactly a pub, the Spy Bar at least means the locals have somewhere to have a beer and a game of darts!
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I'm sure you can work out why this road is called Goober Avenue!  Although the selection of shops (other than the Fish & Chips) seems a bit odd for such a village. 
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Aha, someone must have realised that 1,384 people only need so many mobile phones!  A new developer has prised these zones away from GooberCorp.
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I'll leave you today with this picture and a question for you to work on for the next update.....
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Name the buildings that are going up – a prize will be awarded to the first person who names the buildings correctly.


I hope you've enjoyed seeing the birth of this small quad.  Next time we'll have a bit more of a look around and I can show you how things changed.


'til next time............ $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: nerdly_dood on December 13, 2008, 07:10:00 AM
Nice update! I would like to recommend a Euro RHW texture on the LEX here (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1589) and a newer Euro road texture set that includes SAM intersections here (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1302) - Somehow they seem to match perfectly... (Maybe that's why I use them both? ;))

The RHW texture set will work with either LHD or RHD, and the road texture set includes some options that are LHD or RHD specific (You can pick and choose in the installer)

Oh, and the buildings in the last shot are SimGoober's Small CS§ shops, no? Oops - I don't know about the ones being built, I can't see them well....
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on December 13, 2008, 08:36:52 AM
That's another beautiful update there, paroch! Fantastic work!

(and 33 replies left for 1000!)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: dandan 777 on December 13, 2008, 01:57:20 PM
 ;D Very nice Farming community it reminds me of southern france, Spain or Portugal. ()stsfd()
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on December 14, 2008, 02:25:05 AM
You've done a great farms area here Paul. &apls
The little village look great too !
Arthur.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on December 14, 2008, 05:49:52 AM
mmmm.... such a small farmers village and the center of town is... the queer steer. Interesting concept Paul... interesting enough to get me out of lurk mode  :thumbsup:

I see that you plan to rebuild Great Portland and Regent. Will you replicate the cities or build completely new ones? I have such good memories to both towns... and their Stadiums!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: FrankU on December 14, 2008, 06:27:40 AM
Paroch,

You caught my attention some time ago, now. Your development is very nice. Especially the Dutch start caught my interest. For obvious reasons.
The reason why I seldomly comment on Westend is simply that I hardly ever have something to say that is not already said by others. A "wow" and a "hurray" now and then is fine, of course, but it feels for me a bit boring...

The newest pictures are nice. I have one question about them: how much time did it take to make the whole development? I myself always have the feeling that it takes sooo much time! It would cost me weeks (every week jst a couple of hours, of course) for one tile to develop. And another thing: how do you develop a rural quad in a very much developed urban area? In my regions the development always stops someday.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on December 14, 2008, 08:26:05 PM
What a flattering update, Paul!   ;)  The farms look like they came out very well.  I'm surprised to see so many Maxis farms, but that's probably just because I've been blocking them for so long I nearly forgot what they looked like! :D  I also like how you extended the streets into many of the farms the way you've done.  I tried that once or twice, but never seemed to get the look I was hoping for.  It worked great in your case though... so maybe now it's my turn to take some notes.  The village also turned out nicely... even if it is overrun with cell phones!  :D  I've looked at the growing buildings several times now and it seems like it should be fairly easy to pick them out, but I just can't seem to place them right now.  Maybe it will still come to me before someone else gets it...

But if not, I'll certainly see you next time anyway!
JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on December 15, 2008, 12:03:46 AM
Paul, it has been far too long since I last stopped in. As for the newly growing buildings, I had originally though they were from the JBSimio collection, but it seems that may not be the case. I know spa has done some good small lots, but I just can't help shake the feeling that they are Maxis. It reminds me of this one small office building whose name eludes me. But that is a small thing compared to all that I have missed. The marina and towers turned  out great. Those hotels are neat, and I like the way the marina itself juts out from the coast. I like how the lighthouse turned out and the botanical gardens are absolutely amazing. You did a great job with them. The greenhouses fit together particularly nicely. 73.08 is a very nice suburb shot. If there's a place for sale around there, let me know of a good local realtor. Always impressive stuff Paul, whether urban, recreational, or rural, you seem to do it well.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Diggis on December 15, 2008, 01:42:19 AM
Quote from: paroch on December 13, 2008, 06:49:58 AM
Aha, someone must have realised that 1,384 people only need so many mobile phones!  A new developer has prised these zones away from GooberCorp.

You've clearly never lived in a rural town have you mate... the number of farmers I know who have hay baled their phone, dropped it in the dip, had a cow eat it... 1384 people would need a new phone about 3 times a year.  :D

It's interesting to see other peoples play styles.  You obviously have an idea of what you want your region to look like and build towards that.  Once a Quad is done, it's done.  Where as I tend to play mine in bits, building small areas, moving to another quad and playing there for a bit before going back.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on December 15, 2008, 11:34:38 PM
Hey Paul sorry Ive missed a bit here in West End and far as what the buildings are I have no clue at all... But over all great update here though and I do hope to catch more!!! btw 25 more to your 1K Mark my friend!!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 17, 2008, 01:54:59 PM
Paul, Paul, Paul...

Where have I gone wrong by not coming here to WEST END more often, my friend? I am so sorry for my absence, there's just no excuse!

The highways and farmlands look just wonderful, and I love the planning shot, especially. I cannot wait to see your plans come to fruition! I find that destroying an area, then rebuilding is not only cathartic, but a great way to change what you didn't like about an area while keeping the things you did!

Good luck with the plans, and I hope to be back more often, my friend!

Take care,

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on December 17, 2008, 02:22:02 PM
Hi Paul, the highway in Berners looks great to me, and I'm fascinated by the way you laid out the dirt roads before zoning the farms. Then it's interesting to see the area's step-by-step development. Love the way you've placed the village and added a few isolated houses elsewhere.

It's great to see the Mouse Houses
show up in such a lovely setting! :) High Street (74.13) kind of "speaks" to me - it looks like a place I'd like to stop and explore if I were out for a Sunday drive. The little stores fit the scene perfectly.

I'll take a longer look later in the week, but I'm just scanning quickly and playing catch-up right now. I am intrigued by the demolish-and-rebuild plans, though, so I'll go back and try to find the originals in the next few days.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on December 18, 2008, 11:30:38 AM
Thanks for all the comments - full personal replies will follow in the next update.

I noticed no-one has guessed the buildings growing in 74.15 and 74.16, so I thought I'd give you another chance to name the building that is growing.  There are two of the same building - can you name them?

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For the first person to guess correctly there will be a very prestigious West End prize - and if you're wondering what that prize might be have a look at the first picture of update 74 (picture number 61.13 - Future Plans) and you may be able to work it out!!!

Full update to follow over the next few days.

'til next time.............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 18, 2008, 11:50:52 AM
Boy, the name of the building is on the tip of my tongue, but I just can't seem to get to it, Paul!

I know it's in my plug-ins, too--I may have to hop into the game and look it up!

Hope all is well, my friend!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on December 19, 2008, 12:45:46 PM
Ahhh... That's the hint I needed!  I was expecting something much shorter... not that these are huge by any means, but definitely taller than I was expecting for the area.  I'm pretty sure that both of them are the 900 Building by JMeyers... ;)

JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on December 20, 2008, 06:13:55 AM
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Nerdly Dood:  Hey good to see you here again and thanks for the tips re NAM textures.  I must confess I don't pay that much attention to them, so your help is appreciated.

Bat:  Thank you and yes, counting down now.......

dandan 777:  Welcome to West End.  Thanks for dropping by.  I'm pleased you liked the farming area – the meditteranean feel was not a deliberate thing – but if you like it then that is good for me!!

Arthur:  Thanks.  The map I am using is so huge that there will be need for many more farming quads like this, so I am pleased you liked it – there will be more to come!!

Sebes:  Anything to get you out of lurk mode has to be good!!  I hear that they have reserved a table for you  ;) – so please pop in again!!  As for the re-build plans...... it will be a mix of both.  Great Portland will be done first.  This will be the main port of West End, so will have much more water this time.  But it will keep the NRG Stadium and also will have high rise buildings on the north bank of the River Dinnium – the airport will go though as a new one in Carnaby will be unveiled before then.  As for Regent – it will still be the "Vegas" of West End, with its own version of the strip.  I think the Regent Royals will deserve a new stadium by then, but it will be in a similar location.  Regent was home to the original "Little Amsterdam" - do you think I should do that again, or has Kingly made that idea redundant  ()what()  The choice is yours Sebes.

FrankU:  Great to see you here again – I have very few comments from UK members, so I kind of think of the Dutch SC4D members as my adopted countrymen (maybe Kingly has something to do with that!!).  And believe me, as an MD'er a "wow" or a "hurray" are ALWAYS appreciated so please feel free to comment any time  :thumbsup:

As for your questions....How much time?  Well, I find the small rural quads can be done very quickly – maybe two hours from start to finish.  Because the farm zones cover such a large area, they can be done quickly.  I find the urban and suburban quads take more time – for two main reasons – (a) with more people you need to get the layout right, or you get no jobs and abandonment and (b) I usually have an idea of how I want things to look, so it can take longer to get it just right.  The Piccadilly quad took me about 2 months to complete!!  I did not add up the actual hours, but it must have been over 50 hours of playing to get it just how I wanted.  I have almost finished the next new quad (Carnaby) and although it is a large quad, it was much quicker because it is at least 30% covered with farms.  I hope this answers your question. 

You also asked about developing rural quads in an urban area.  Well, small quads are not a problem, as I-Ag demand is always high to start with – it seems neighbouring quads do not impact this – so it is easy to zone farms.  With large quads – you MUST build all of your farms before you make the quad too developed with R and I.  As soon as R zones grow and sims get educated and I zones grow and cause pollution, I-Ag demand will fall.  So, for a large quad – you need to plan in advance and build all the farms first and then zone in your R, C and I.  You can have some R zones early – but only low density and not too many.  I hope this helps.

Jon x2:  Funnily enough I am not sure which farms are Maxis and which are not.  I use the Maxis blocker – but obviously not for I-Ag – something I will change for a future quad.  And yeah, I like the streets going into the farm – but it doesn't always work, so lucky growth and selective bulldozing is required.  And congrats  &apls on guessing the buildings correctly (even if you needed the extra picture!!)  I have PM'd you with details of the prize plus some "sneak peek" pics of Carnaby.

Matt:  Hey stranger!!!  Great to see you in these parts again.  I like your thinking on the buildings and I can see where you are coming from with the spa angle.  I use a Maxis blocker (except farms – see JBSimio response above), so that was a bit off-mark.
Thanks for the great comment and compliments and as a result the estate agent (US translation = realtor) has found a great semi for you in that neighbourhood and in the current market climate, word is you can get it for a knock-down price.  Btw, I seem to think the Marina was your suggestion, so thanks for taking part in that.

Shaun:  Ah, so maybe those mobile shops are right then!!  And yes, I tend to be a "once it's done, it's done" kind of player – although I am multi-quadding to a degree at the moment!  Off to Upton Park later today, so COME ON YOU IRONNNNNS!!

Pat:  Well thanks for thinking about those building.  So many of them grow in West End, I kinda assume everyone knows them!!  See below for the answer.  And yes, the count down to 1,000 is underway now!!

Dustin x2:  Hey great to see you again.  I know that with the Stats plus your own MD being in OSITM, time is at a premium, so no worries.  I have a feeling West End will only just get to 1,000 replies before CoM!!  And the rebuild is only because those quads have become "infected" and will no longer open and they are not finished – so needs must.  I wonder if you worked out which building it was?

Joan:  Glad you like the highway.... but you'll see below that it got changed!!  Thanks for the words re the quad – I thought showing the development would be interesting.  As for those MH's, I've just had a BRILLIANT little area grow purely with them, it's a few updates away but I think you'll adore it!! 


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First things first – I asked you to identify the growing buildings.  JBSimio got it right – and here they are fully completed.
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It is The 900 Building by JMyers.  Part of a great set of small commercial buildings that grow profusely in West End.  JBSimio has been PM'd with details of his prize – watch this space for future updates where it will be revealed.


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And this is Berners after the re-development.  I guess in some respects it's a bit unrealistic that there would be tow such buildings in this type of village – but hey, they're there now and part of the make-up of this little place.


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Here is the junction with the motorway.  In many respects this is very representative of many UK junctions (remember we drive on the left).  But I can't help thinking that the connections are not quite right.  Maybe I need to play with MIS/RHW more to get the hang of it.

Let's head out into the countryside now and see some farms.....

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You know, the more I thought about the RHW, the more it bugged me.  And when I did a traffic data query (sorry Joan, I forgot to take a pic), I found that NO vehicles were using it.  Plus, it messed up my region traffic view.  Grrrrr, it bugged me.  So, I decided to scrap it and revert to traditional motorways!


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Here the bulldozers are starting work – the left hand connection has gone.


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And now the whole highway is removed.


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Traditional Maxis Motorway is restored.  You know, it is kinda more representative of the motorways where I live, and also of what West End is about.  Whilst I have a huge map, the area has quite a high population density and space is at a premium.  Plus, cars are now running on the motorway again and the region view traffic map makes sense again.


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The junction is much simpler now, so some re-zoning was required.


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The finished village – hopefully you'll agree, quite a nice place to live.


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The region traffic view.  You may notice the motorway does not line up from Piccadilly to Carnaby – don't worry, I know and this does get sorted out!


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The region satellite view.  The area marked in blue is the rural quad of Hay which is the focus of the next update.  A similar quad to Berners but we'll be looking at is slightly differently


'til next time........... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on December 20, 2008, 06:16:54 AM
Your newest update looks great! Wonderful 12 updates! Nice work on that rural town! And your region overview looks beautiful! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

18 more replies for 1000!


Oh, And this is my 6500th reply at sc4devotion...
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on December 20, 2008, 04:54:02 PM
Nice update, Paul!   :thumbsup:

I really like the overview in 75.02... but it's the farms in 75.04 that really grabbed my attention.  I don't recall seeing the one near the bottom with the open air barn before.  I probably have it somewhere... but I'll have to look to make sure.  Either way... "rural bliss" is a very fitting description if you ask me.  (But then, we all know I have a soft spot for farms now, don't we?)

I would have to agree with you and your thoughts on the RHW mod.  I really thought it would be something I used extensively when I first downloaded it, but I find that I rarely use it even still.  For me, this is just a personal preference and I don't think there's anything "wrong" with RHW by any means!  I just found there were a few unavoidable limitations that I didn't like to work around.  I think your traditional motorway fits in just fine and I like the look of the rezoning as well.  The only thing I might suggest would be the smooth 45 degree curves from NAM on the motorways... it appears that you should have enough room there and I think it add just a touch more to an already good looking area.

With all the praise you give me for region shots, I have to say that yours are pretty darn spectacular as well!    I know I mentioned it before, but I really like how your urban and rural areas mix together and switch back and forth so often.  The smaller pockets of each element combine to create a lot of visual interest.

I've recieved your PM and have been thinking everything through.  I'll try to get back to you with all the answers tomorrow.  ;)

See you next time, my friend!
JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on December 21, 2008, 12:57:28 AM
Hi Paul

I have missed some wonderful pictures there and for that, my friend, I am very sorry  :'(

Update 73: Fantastic update, as well my friend, I love picture 73.08
Update 74: Wow, your region is superb :o, I love picture 74.09, this is so réalistic &apls. The city looks good too  &apls
Update 75: Again a fantastic update Paul!! The RHW is perfect, I love all the fields in the general picture

I'm looking forward to the next update my friend
Take care, David
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on December 21, 2008, 12:18:14 PM
Barnes looks really cool. I like it.

A little advice: if I know it correctly you can drag the RHW one-way road into the roundabout, which looks better in that way.

Also, have you considered using the asphalt textures for the RHW?
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on December 21, 2008, 07:00:03 PM
Hi Paul! Love the 900 Buildings even though I wasn't quick enough to identify them in the growth stage! I like those dirt roads, too - they give the scene (75.02) a nice country feel and help all the elements in Berners work well together.

The farms are charming,
and I wonder how they would look with a fence here and there. We have a lot of unfenced crop land around here so your representation is quite realistic, though. I think the problem is mine - I just have a lot of disconnected ideas at the moment and don't know what to do with them! &mmm

The revised transport layout looks much better and more practical - it's exactly the way it should be IMO. And of course, the overviews - both of them - are awesome! :thumbsup: I know you said not to worry about the misaligned road, but I'm afraid I'm going to lose some sleep over this until it's fixed - you know how I am about that sort of thing!! ;D $%Grinno$% ;D

I can't leave without commenting on 75.12. The overview is just stunning! You have done great things with the shorelines and created an overall layout which compliments the terrain. This is an accomplishment you have every reason to be proud of!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Splime on December 22, 2008, 08:51:03 AM
Wow, this is a really neat region! I love how that village looks.

Also, where did you get that traffic view mod?
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 22, 2008, 01:21:33 PM
Hey, Paul!

Alas, the 900 Building was not the one that I was thinking of...but, hey! Congratulations to Jon for getting it right! I can't wait to see the surprise you have in store for him, my friend!

Oh, and those region views? Tremendous.

Incredible work here in WEST END, Paul!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: FrankU on December 24, 2008, 05:43:01 AM
What an enormous region!

And thanks for your answers on time spending and rural development. I didn't know the small tiles could get developed even in large developed regions.
I usually play with large tiles, because I tend to feel claustrophobic on small tiles.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on December 24, 2008, 10:25:26 PM
It's Christmas here in Pennsylvania, so I thought I pop in here to WEST END and wish you a Merry Christmas, Paul!

I hope you have a happy holiday, my friend!

Take care!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Lilojame on December 26, 2008, 04:56:35 AM
Hi there!
I missed an update here it seems and I am very sorry for that. This month is a bit frenzy for me...

I very much like how this little Village looks (I am a fan of villages, lol, since my country is composed of mostly that  :D). Those two 900 Buildings may look a bit strange to be there for many people BUT it is quite a common sight around here so it works just fine with me.  ;)
I like very much how the farms look and blend in.
I don't know, but I think that the maxis highways actually looks better in this village of yours (no disrespect meant towards the RHW) from some reason.

In any case, it is always a pleasure to visit West End!

Karin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on December 27, 2008, 12:33:15 AM
Merry Xmas Paul, hope you and the family had a great one  :)

Good to see the Rural Hwy mod making an appearance, although somewhat brief. Keep working on it, but can i suggest that with the off ramps, start them a bit further back and the offramps should merge nicely into the roundabout.

Quite a nice little farming community you have put together. Like the winding roads, look great  :thumbsup:. Don't know why I haven't tried that yet.

Good to see the traffic overlay, have to keep Joan happy  ;) and the region overview shows you have put a lot of thought in the overall planning, all fits together nicely.

Great work mate.

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on December 27, 2008, 02:51:13 AM
superb area my friend, excuses me not to more often leave of message but I visit your city regularly .
I like always as much your way of played, the countryside is very successful !

My Trieste city is always active, I made a request for reactivated, you can always go to look on TSC, Trieste is updated often .

Merry festival , Mes meilleurs voeux  ;)


Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on December 27, 2008, 07:44:35 AM
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Bat:  Thank you Bat – yes close to the 1,000 now.  Hopefully this update will take West End beyond that magic figure.  And congrats on your 6,500 posts.

Jon:  Great comment – thanks.  I have to admit I'm not sure which farm that is either.  And maybe I just need to play with the RHW more, or maybe I'm just too set in my ways!  I'll have to check out the NAM 45 degree curves for motorways – I guess I must have hem, just a question of finding them in the menus.  And thanks for the compliment about the region shots.  I have to say I am quite pleased with how they've developed and once the Great Portland and Regent quads are re-done that will make a massive difference I think.

David:  Thanks for those great compliments.  I am happy that you liked those three updates.

Krisztian:  Thanks for the suggestions – I will have to look at the RHW texture mod.  And thanks for the double post!!!  I brings me nearer to 1,000.  I guess you pressed the button twice!

Joan:  Well, maybe I'll do another "guess the building" and see how you do.  As for fences and farms – yes I know.....I keep meaning to put some in (and I have in Carnaby!)  You are right, some farms with fences would make a big difference.  And the mis-aligned road has now been fixed but it'll be an update or three before you see that!!  BIG thanks for the compliment about the Region view.  I hope it will only get better.

Splime:  Welcome to West End!!  Thanks for your comment and as for the traffic view modd – it is the OS Region Transport Map Mod by She Who Will Not Be Named.  I think I got it from the STEX but I could not locate it now, so cannot provide a link, sorry.

Dustin x2:  Cheers for those words and better luck next time I play "guess the building"!  And a Merry Christmas to you too Dustin – may 2009 bring you all you wish for.

FrankU:  You're welcome – and yes, I think I prefer large tiles as well.  This was a pre-made map, so it has a mix of all tile sizes.  The small ones can be good as they can be done so quickly which makes a nice change.

Karin:  Hey, no problem – I know that there are only so many hours in each day.  And yes, sometimes you have a building that stands out from the rest – as you say, it happens!!  Always good to see you here, hopefully I'll see you again soon.

Dave:  Thanks for the suggestions re RHW – seems the jury is mixed on whether to use RHW or Maxis Highways!!  And thanks for the comments re the farms – I do enjoy building them.  The region is progressing further as I've had some time to play and I hope you'll be pleased with the results.

Paul:  It is always good to see you and I hope you are well.  I miss Trieste and would like to see it active again here at SC4D, I'd be a regular visitor for sure. 


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It's time for another West End video – probably the last one of 2008.  We recently visited Berners – well now we're going to Hay, which is another small quad located directly below Berners.  In many ways it's a very similar quad, so I thought I'd share the development of Hay with you by way of a video.

As always, click the link and turn up the volume – today's video contains singing from the Hay Village Church Choir!  I do hope you enjoy it.

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I will soon be ready to move on to Carnaby and the new International Airport.  I'd really like to have flights from West End to as many other MDs as possible – so please, if you're happy to join in, please let me know the name of your airport (even if not yet built!!) and which airline can fly there (WestJet is the national carrier of West End) and I'll then feature this in a future update.  It would also help if you said where in the world your MD is based, as I am trying to create a world airline routes map!!


I also want to say thank you to EVERYONE who has posted here in 2008 – without you posting comments, West End would cease to exist!  Here's to next year and I hope 2009 brings you all you wish for.

'til next time.............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on December 27, 2008, 09:37:39 AM
wow splendid vidéeo ! ! excellent job  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Schulmanator on December 27, 2008, 11:17:58 AM
Great video! Always a pleasure to see your work.  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on December 27, 2008, 02:04:06 PM
Your video is very nice! And the idea is also nice!
Great work on it! :thumbsup:

3 more replies for 1000!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: cowcorn on December 28, 2008, 07:30:20 PM
Well... well... Your MD did start about the same time I stopped playing... so lots of catchup to do. I actually went through the whole thing. That right all 50 pages of it. It's hard to comment anything specific on such a large body of work but I'd say the presentation of movies is such a great way immerse ourselves in this. As a bass-trombonist my favorite has to be the choice of Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet... I had the chance to play it (in a concert band transcription however) and I can say playing such a large and heavy theme is really a blast on my instrument! 8) (I say that positively, even though blasting means playing without controlling the sound on brass horns...) So I look forward to more of you and if I have any suggestion on a future choice of soundtrack that might thrill me I would say maybe some Richard Strauss... or Beethoven... see A Clockwork Orange and 2001 : A Space Odyssey ;)

Anyway great work!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on December 28, 2008, 10:17:48 PM
Nice work on Berners and Hay Paul. The video was very nice. What program you you use to compile it all, and is it what allows you to do the pans and zooms or is that an effect from the image capturing? WestJet, great name for what I'm hoping will be a great airport (though I don't think I have to worry too much). It might just give me some inspriation for when one gets built around Greenacre (GNX). In case I don't chat with you before then, Happy New Year. Also, it looks like you're getting close to another milestone.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on December 28, 2008, 11:59:00 PM
Nice video Paul... and another great farming quad.  The video is actually a great way to present this one and you've done a great job with it.  I like the use of canals and the irrigation pieces too.  I've tried to use those irrigation bits myself a few times, but find that Covington just isn't flat enough... :D  That whole area is really coming together nicely and the region shots are a good indicator of the little things you're obviously paying attention to.   &apls

Anyway... I think I saw a couple others hovering, so I'll congratulate you on the 1000th post which should be happening within the next few minutes.   ;)

See you next time,
JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on December 29, 2008, 12:00:01 AM
What a wonderful story, Paul! Hay is absolutely charming, but seeing it grow from ground zero makes it even more special!

For a long time now, I've felt like I – and your legion of other fans – have had a small role in shaping West End. There are several wonderful new trends in MDing, including multi-media presentations and exemplary work in Photoshop and LE. But the level of interactivity you have fostered is still all too rare.

Congratulations on 1,000 posts and a region population that has topped 1,000,000! Now I'm looking forward to seeing even more development as you move forward with exciting new plans for West End!

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on December 29, 2008, 04:40:53 AM
And BANG there was a rural community... 

I loved watching the last video Paul, and it's very interesting to see how you developped that quad. Also the Berners turned out, not surprisingly, to a very pleasant suburban-rural-community. I agree that the surpassing motorway in Maxis textures looks better than the RHW from "high up", but from closer in shots the RHW looks better I guess.. I have never played yet with RHW myself (downtown Nw Rhenen and Manhattan seemed not a good spot to practize  ;) ) , so cannot give any advise on that, but I think it should give a rural community just that touch of reality that the Maxis motorways miss... Well, maybe in a future one.. ;)

What to do with Regent? The choice up to Sebes? No Paul - as Joan said above this is a very interactive MD, and I love to comment on details, and offer some advises or directions if asked for it, but you make the bigger plan yourself , and that should stay. I only want to mention that the 'old' Regent catched my interest in following your MD, so for me, the Grolschish quarter of Regent is like Genesis in the bible: can it you do without? The choice is realy yours and depends on whether you wish to recreate the city (but with grown skills!) or build the New Regent on a new concept.

This is the 1001st post in this MD. I am very happy that Joan made the 1000st: she is your most loyal fan I guess. Congratulation to you Paul for this milestone. Congratulations to Joan too!

Title: Re: WEST END
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Paul:  Merci.

Schulmanator:  Thanks for your comment.

Bat:  Thank you – and yes West End is now through the 1,000 barrier!

Cowcorn:  Welcome to West End.  I'm impressed with your stamina to go through all 50 pages – that must have taken some time – thanks for looking.  And yes, that piece by Prokofiev is certainly quite stirring so I'm pleased you liked it too, I am sure it must have been fun to play it.  I have a few other videos and soundtracks in mind, so watch this space – but unfortunately the ones you mention I do not have.  I do hope to see you back again.

Matt:  I'm pleased you liked the video.  I take the pics using Clic2Pic and then compile the videos in Microsoft Movie Maker which comes as standard with Vista.  It's a neat (and simple) programme.  All of the effects (zoom, pan etc) and the transitions between pics are standard within Movie Maker – there are loads of options to play with.  So it's a mix of taking pics at different zooms to give the feeling of zooming in but then using the zoom effect within Movie Maker to get it nice and smooth.  Hope that makes sense.  I have thought about writing a tutorial on how tomake a vid – guess it's on the "to do list" !!
As for WestJet – yes, it's a budget Canadian airline and I saw many of their planes at Calgary airport in 2007.  The name just seemed very appropriate for West End!  I look forward to WestJet landing at GRX.

Jon:  Thanks for being the guy who set up the 1,000th post.  I knew a few people were lurking (mentioning no names!!). I'm happy you liked this rural quad – I take that as a big compliment from you.  The SG irrigation pieces are fun – but as you point out, really need nice flat tiles to work.

Joan:  Well, well.  West End's most frequent visitor and loyal supporter bags the 1,000th post, congratulations and I am pleased it went to such a great friend.  As for the level of interactivity – well I've had a bit of a development spurt over the last two weeks, so there has not been much community input- but rest assured I have plans for more in the future.  And yes, as you say West End has also just crept over the 1,000,000 population mark.  When you consider the region has been going for over 16 months I guess that's kinda slow – but it still has plenty of room for growth.  Thanks for all your support and friendship over those 16 months and needless to say a special "treble zero" award will be on its way.

Sebes:  Hey good to see you here my friend.  And 1,001 is still a special post.  Thanks for your comments re Berners and Hay and the vid.  I kind of think of these two quads as "sister" villages.  And I am becoming more happy developing rural quads.  I know I still have much to learn but I also know they are better than earlier attempts.

As for Regent – I will keep the grolschist quarter and I have a nice plan in mind to mix in Little Amsterdam with the Casino Hotels – I think you'll like it (but there are more quads to build before then).



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First up a very big thank you to EVERYONE who has posted here in West End and helped it break the 1,000 comments barrier.  I think this is quite some milestone for MDs here at SC4D and I'm very pleased that West End has made it.


Another year starts here in West End.  So it's time to move on to a new quad.  We've spent the last three updates in small rural farming quads.  Today it's time to move onto a large quad that will also be one of the most important quads in West End.  Let's look at some pics now, they tell their own story......


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This shows the recent development in Berners and Hay plus the quads next in line.  Caranby, then Grosvenor, Hanover and the re-development of Great Portland.  You'll also notice the region population of 946k.


Now Joan mentioned the highway from Piccadilly to Carnaby being out of line..... so I just wanted to show it being fixed.....
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Now the highway serves as one of West End's main arteries, I just hope it will cope with demand!


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Development starts in the north west corner of the Carnaby quad.  Looks like more farms are filling the large plain.


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And they also hug the foothills.  That's mighty fertile land and it's also nice and flat, so the farmers just love it.


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Development in the north east corner also features more farms – they flow down from Piccadilly and Hay.  That small town is called Sisson and you'll find out why later.


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Now that don't look like a farm to me!  Carnaby was specially "flattened" because it's been my intention to build the new International Airport here for some time.  At this stage one runway will be sufficient and there are two main taxiways which run either side of the runway.


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At this stage the airport will consist of only one terminal – and this is the main part of that terminal.  It'll go through a few changes before we reach the final version though!!


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Transport links are vital – and you may recall the monorail in Piccadilly that serves the airport.  Well, it comes in from Piccadilly (to the north east) to the airport and then out to the north to head towards Great Portland, Regent and Oxford.


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Now the rail network is joined in.  It comes in via a tunnel to allow some commercial development area around the airport.



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The airport gains some tarmac for the apron.  At this stage it is very basic and will be changed – but it gives the idea of what is to come.  You can also see the short term parking garage plus commercial zoning around the terminal.


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So now the basic layout of the airport is complete.  You can see the small town of Sisson is close to the airport and over 75% of the people there work in jobs linked to the airport.  The cargo terminal and flying club are added at the south east corner of the airport.


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Many of the airports I see in SC4 are built right in city centres – whereas I was trying to achieve something more like I see in the UK – airports like Gatwick and Stansted, where they are close to a town but mainly surrounded by farms, fields and wooded areas.  I've added in more farms to the south of the airport to help achieve this look.  It also leaves a nice gap of land to the south where the town of Carnaby can be built. 


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Further development takes place, with hotels and Commercials being added around the airport.  Sisson grows a bit bigger and two new residential areas grow on the east of the quad.  Some industrials are zoned near to the airport itself.


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Here the town of Carnaby takes shape.  In RL London, Carnaby Street is a very fashionable shopping street, so I wanted a vibrant commercial centre – but look, no development!!


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And there's the reason why.  With all the commercial zones around the airport demand has dried up!  We'll see what happens in a future update.


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Here's an overview of Carnaby and Sisson International Airport.  There is more work to do on the airport and there are also some spaces to fill in, so come back again to see what happens.  If you look, you'll also see the population has just crept over 1,000,000 people – which I think is just fitting for the arrival of West End's new airport.

The next update (or two) will feature:
-The reason behind the name Sisson International Airport.
-Close ups of the airport and the changes made to it.
-Some custom lots featuring WestJet, national carrier of West End.
-An map of routes flown from Sisson International (still not too late to add in your MD).
-A look around the rest of the quad.

So hopefully, I'll see you here again.

'til next time.............. $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on January 03, 2009, 10:05:59 AM
wow my friend it is a superb update, imposing !

A city as I like it, very good grid systems, a channel, and an enormous airport !
The airport with this single track is very successful, a lawful length (I suppose lol), since the regulation of a track of airport is on average of 3000 m .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runway) thanks to all our excellent BATteur , all the parts are available for made up a realistic track ...

I wait with impatient the sights close to the city , but last week end of vacancy for me, but I would visit you as much as possible  ;)

Paul / Warconstruct



Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on January 03, 2009, 10:12:21 AM
Wonderful first update there in 2009 and in January! ;)
Great work on the airport and farms of Carnaby! :thumbsup:
And looking forward to the next update (or two)... :D
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on January 03, 2009, 12:14:50 PM
Hi, Paul!

First let me say congratulations on 1000 comments! That is such a milestone to reach, and it could not have happened to a better MD, a better MD author, or a better friend!

On to the update! Your placement of everything is perfect! I love how you've placed the highway and the canal as a bit of a barrier between the farmlands and the airport. And speaking of the airport, it looks just magnificent! I love the terminal, especially, but the way that you have everything set up--the runways, the cargo terminal, the flight club--it's just fantastic, my friend!

I can't wait to see what else you have planned!

Take care!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on January 03, 2009, 01:20:08 PM
Enormous work here Paul, this airport is looking great, but just try to connect the plane to the rest  :thumbsup:

Arthur.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on January 03, 2009, 02:49:58 PM
Super update, Paul! If I were going to try and build an airport, I'd want it to look just like yours.

As always, showing the thought processes that went into construction is so interesting!  At first glance I wondered about having a large airport in an agricultural setting. If any of those are dairy farms, the cows are going to give buttermilk every time a big jet takes off! :D It looks great in the overviews though (77.14 and .17) - the placement couldn't have been better, especially with the growth that appears to have sprung up.

As for the lack of commercial development in Carnaby, we all know by now that it takes patience at first, a little dickering with the zoning if patience doesn't work, and finally, a round with the wrecking ball if all else fails. Development around the airport looks great, though, so maybe step one will work in a while!

You've made a fine start on West End in the new year, and things will only get better from here...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: dsrwhat316 on January 03, 2009, 03:00:37 PM
Great work on SIA, Paul! The "technical shots" provided were interesting to look at; seeing everything come together from an empty parcel to a bustling international airport. I also like how the farms are built up to the airport, making it feel like it was always there.

I have a suggestion for the runway/taxiways; you should add more access to the runway from the taxiway. The gap between the only two entrances seems too big. Still, a fine update Paul!

~ Dan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on January 04, 2009, 03:40:33 AM
Excellent update Paul - you know that I love airports and airlines, and this update was very special to me. Thanks for making the airport in a rural setting - you don't see it much in MD-land but I think in Europe most airports have runways between meadows and field. You are very wise to have build in some room for terminal growth... I am sure there will be several carriers filing for slots to operated services between Dutch American airports and WestEnd.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Fabian93 on January 04, 2009, 05:33:35 AM
Great looking airport, you have build there, Paul  &apls
I think it matches very well to it's surroundings
And congratulations to more than 1 Million inhabitants  :thumbsup:

Fabian
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on January 04, 2009, 02:43:06 PM
Excellent update Paul. A massive new tile, 1,000 posts and 1,000,000 residents. A fitting way to start the new year. Thanks for the tips on WMM. I may have to give it a shot at some point in the future. "Borrow" your technique. In 77.13, what are those two orange buildings just up and left of the control tower away from the airport? The area filled in nicely, and the farms do pull off the rural feel for the airport. I have nothing against urban airports, but it seems, more often than not, the towns grow around the airports rather than the airport being built into a town, so I like this setup. I also like the organic/freeform style of your farms. Are there natural terrain features that tend to cause them to grow that way around your parts, or is it from year of tracts being bought and sold? Also, for your airline map, Greenacre is GNX. GRX is Granada, Spain. There are a few local airports too, but none that I think would handle international traffic. Looking forward to what's to come in the coming updates.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on January 04, 2009, 03:15:25 PM
Hey paul i am sooo amshamed of myself that I missed your milestone mark gaaaaaaaaah that bites!!! But hey anyways congrats hitting 1,000 replies here in west end a well deserved at that!!! This update is great watching you building that airport and a monster one at that!!


Can't wait for more,

Pat
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on January 05, 2009, 07:29:06 AM
West End is developing with a high speed!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: FrankU on January 07, 2009, 03:06:12 PM
Paul, this is a very nice update. It gives some insight in the way you develop your tiles and that is always interesting. It's really instructive to see how other people work with SC4.
Your airport, with the separate cargo and club is really nice. It almost makes me want to download the complete airport stuff into my plugins and build ahead! But I guess I'll stay with seaports for a while. Maybe someday I will show some pictures of that stuff.

But, back to your work: it's like a tutorial. Show us more! &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on January 10, 2009, 06:27:04 AM
Today it's time to honour the latest member of the "West End Double Zero Club".

The award for the 1,000th post goes to Jmouse.  Joan is the most frequent poster here in West End, so it's kind of fitting that she bagged this mile stone.

Joan was also the 500th poster – and here is a reminder of the award she got then as "Official Housebuilder to West End"

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The Mouse House was still in its development stage then – but now it is finished – so to honour Joan as our 1,000th poster she has been upgraded to the "Master Housebuilder to West End".

And here are some pictures of two different developments of Mouse Houses:

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I think they really add to what is available within SC4 and they are a great set of houses – you can download them from  HERE  (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1864) on the LEX.


And to recognise the fact that the 1,000th post is special I've also arranged for a copy of the LEX disc to be delivered to you Joan – enjoy!!


Personal Replies and a full update are still in the pipeline and should appear soon.

'til next time...... $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on January 10, 2009, 07:31:27 AM
Nice area there! It looks great! And looking forward to more... ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on January 10, 2009, 10:16:50 AM
wow splendid home !! very good job  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on January 10, 2009, 10:18:29 AM
Magnificnet Paul  &apls &apls
Sorry its been a while but RL took over (I'm sure you know what its like ::))
But now I've caught up on 4 missed updates and what great ones they were too. :thumbsup:
I loved the rural shots particularly and the airport placement is what I too am more used too.
If thats your first attempt at one - its marvellous  &apls &apls

Looking forward to more

:satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on January 10, 2009, 03:46:48 PM
Paul, what a wonderful surprise! And just think, it only took 500 posts to get from a single little orange BAT to a whole neighborhood full of Mouse Houses! I am honored to see them in West End, and I shall certainly treasure the disc - you're just too good to me!

Thank you - you're so thoughtful...
Joan

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on January 11, 2009, 07:01:43 AM
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Paul x2:  Thank you for the link – it was very interesting.  I am pleased you like this city and the airport – I hope you like this update too.

Bat x2:  Thanks as always Bat  :thumbsup:

Dustin:  Wow, thanks Dustin, what a great comment – I appreciate it.  Hopefully you like this closer look at the airport.

Arthur:  Hehehe, thanks.

Joan x2:  Thanks (as always) for that Joan.  Yes, dairy farms are not so popular next to the runway.  I'm glad you liked the development shots – wasn't sure if I'd been overdoing them recently.  This update shows the area in a bit more detail I think and at last Carnaby itself has developed.  And it's a pleasure to show off the Mouse House here and you're welcome re the disc  :)

Dan:  Good to see you again Dan, and thanks for the comments.  And yes, I kinda realised that the runways needed another exit or two – so that was already inhand.  Hopefully you'll like them now.

Sebes:  Yes, I know that airports are one of your favourites, so hopefully you'll like Sisson.  I've spent more time on it making it just.....so!  I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts.  And thanks for making Rhenen one of WEN's key destinations  :satisfied:

Fabian:  Welcome to West End Fabian!  Thanks for your comments and I hope to see you here again soon.

Matt:  I always enjoy your comments Matt, so thanks for being a great supporter of West End.  And no worries re the Movie Maker tips – good luck and if you need any help, just shout.  As for the two orange buildings, I've posted a pic below.  They are the Helvetia Building by SimGoober.  I'm sure I got it from the STEX.  I have customised the lot very slightly – I added the West End flag instead of the Swiss flag!!  It is both I-HT growable and ploppable and I use it as a kind of money cheat!  It generates approx 1,500 tax revenues per month and also much needed I-HT jobs! 
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You also asked about the farms around where I live.  Well here's a couple of pics.  No real obvious natural reasons why they take on these shapes.  I guess it's just that the land has been under cultivation for a few hundred years longer than in North America and fields have been split up over the years.  I live in Runwell (part of Wickford) and these are the fields just north of town.
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Pat:  Hey no worries Pat – I know how time can bite at times.  Thanks for the comment and yeah, I guess the airport is the biggest I've done (so far!!)

Krisztian:  Yes, I've had a bit of a blast recently!!

FrankU:  That's a very nice comment!  I'm pleased you like it and I hope you like this.  And I'd definitely like to sea your sea port some time!

Derry:  Good to see you and yes, no worries, I know how RL can be!!  Thanks for the comment and it's actually my second airport, and I can see the improvements over the first!




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Today we continue with the tour of the borough of Carnaby, which of course is home to the new Sisson International Airport.  Let's start by having a look at the town of Sisson:
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The town got it's name from one of West End's "founding fathers", Jeff Sisson.  The Sisson family were one of the first families to settle in the place where the town now sits.  At the time it was known as North Carnaby.  Jeff was always the brightest and most ambitious member of the family and he won a scholarship to study at the University of North Carolina at Covington (UNCC).  So at 18 years old, Jeff set off on his adventure to Covington to study.  You can see the UNCC  HERE. (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=4274.msg211299#msg211299)

Well he did really well and passed his degree in Political Sciences with flying colours.  On his return to North Carnaby Jeff started his own business and grew this successfully.  But business success was not enough for him and he dreamt of establishing an independent nation.  At the time West End was still just a county within England but he started an independence movement and in 1968 his campaign for independence was realised when the West End referendum was held and West End became its own independent sovereign state.

The town of North Carnaby was renamed Sisson in his honour and with the building of the airport so close it was appropriate that the new International Airport also took the Sisson name.  The airport code for Sisson International Airport, West End is WEN.  The first international flight to arrive at Sisson International was a NorthWest Airlines flight from Piedmont International Airport in Covington, which was also a nicely appropriate way to open the airport.


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And here is a NorthWest plane that operates the West End – Covington route, with flights operating daily throughout the year.


Here are a few pictures of the first version of the airport:

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Here are some of the gates – you'll notice there are no markings on the apron area.


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The first version of the main terminal building.  You can see there is space for five large planes (747s here) and that there are no markings around the terminal building taxiways at all.


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And here is an overview of the airport where you can see that the runway only has exits to the taxiways right at the end of the runway.


At this stage I was reasonably pleased with the airport but I knew I could make improvements!


Here's an overview of the airport after it's been re-worked.
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The main differences are:
-additional exits from runway added.
-taxiway extended just south of the terminal to allow easier plane movements without congestion.
-cargo terminal re-shaped.
-taxiways to cargo area/flying club re-designed for easier movements.
-custom lots with planes on taxiways.
-markings added to arpon/gate areas.


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Here's a flight just arriving from Amsterdam.  I think there's something very beautiful about KLM's colours on a plane – they really do stand out amongst a crowd in my opinion.


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WestJet flight WJ0658 to Kertmezo, Liberty Islands just taxiing out to the runway.  This was a custom created lot.


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This part of the terminal is used almost exclusively by WestJet.  If you look carefully you'll see that an Air France flight to Paris has sneaked in!  You can also compare this with picture 78.04 to see that taxiway markings have been added.


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This Qantas flight from Balnavia has just arrived.  Here it is pulling up at the gate.  It's a 23 hour flight, so I'm sure Dave is keen to get off and stretch his legs!  (this was also a custom lot).


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At this time of day many of the transatlantic flights are getting ready for take off.  Here we can see Air Canada – maybe off to Mind Scape??  There's also a Holland Amerika Luchtlijnen plane preparing for boarding to Rhenen International Airport in Nieuw Nederland and a PanAm flight to Peter Stuyvesant Airport, Niuew Amsterdam, also in Nieuw Nederland.  There are 8 flights a day between West End and Nieuw Nederland (Sebes' MD) and the flights are always popular.


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This shot shows off some custom lots and also the apron markings (they took ages to get right!)
The Emirates flight is for Dubai, Royal Jordanian is to Amman and the Lufthansa flight is headed for Capporth City.


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Here are three budget carriers that operate out of WEN, Atlas Jet (flying to Dusseldorf), Horizon (flying to Barcelona) and FlyBE (to Jersey).


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Two WestJet B737s.  These two are headed for Carife, San Pedro and Sao Jorge, Maroanestra.


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The terminal building is not big enough to accommodate all of the planes that can park at the airport.  There are 58 spots for planes to park and only 33 jetways.  So, "bus to the plane" gates play  a part at Sisson International.


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Every large airport in RL has plenty of parking space.  Here is one of the long term car parks at Sisson International.



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  The current plans are:
-Terminal 1 extension will be required when region population hits 1,500,000
-Terminal 2 extension will be required when region population hits 2,000,000
-Terminal 3 extension and second runway will be required when region population hits 3,000,000


And we'll close out this update with a route map showing all of the MDs that West End has agreed routes with.  If you'd like to see your MD added, just let me know where in the world you are and the name of the airport and I'll do the rest!
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Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on January 11, 2009, 07:09:41 AM
Hi Paul

WOW :o your aiport is fantastic and so réalistic my friend also picture 78.01 and 78.02 are super, the city is looking fine
Nice work my friend, as well
I'm looking forward to the next update

David ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on January 12, 2009, 10:46:33 AM
Wonderful new pictures of your re-worked airport there!
Nice work on that city! Great new update... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on January 12, 2009, 04:04:38 PM
You weren't kidding about the odd-shaped fields outlined by trees! Square or rectangular is more efficient I guess, but not nearly as attractive! I do have one idea about the reason for irregularity but truth be told, it doesn't make much sense.

Paul, the airport is magnificent! This is an area in which I'm too inexperienced to comment, but I know enough to know it looks just great. The photos you've taken are awesome and show the extent of preplanning that went into this complex. Kudos for the parking lots BTW  - that's one area where our own environmental experiences clash more often than not. ;)

Interesting story about Jess Sission
- his town looks like a nice place to live, and with that huge airport, there must be a lot of commercial activity there. The region shot looks terrific, and it's always a good idea to leave room for expansion. That's always been one of the most difficult things for me to do.

Another great update...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: panthersimcity4 on January 12, 2009, 07:44:36 PM
Awesomeness!  ;D

I love the part with the gigantic parking lot, lol  :P
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on January 13, 2009, 04:30:42 AM
Wow Paul. This Airport is of A-quaility! I cannot believe that this is the first modular airport that you build - this prooves: you are a wonderchild (well: wonderman than)!

The first picture of that Northwest 747 is breath taking - I think it's already one of my favourites ever seen on the site... so realistic! It realy means something special to me, thanks for opening with this one..!

I can imagine that there are 8 daily flights between Nieuw Nederland and WestEnd. All Dutch Americans want to visit that great place of course. Rumours go that when the new casino strip in Regent will be opened, PanAm will add even more daily lowcost services to WEN. 

IT's nice to see how you plan the airport way ahead. It's a wise thing to have a 2nd runway in different directions, so that planes can always land no matter where the storm blows from  ;).

Man looking at this updates makes we want to make an airport for Rhenen immediately! (but no time unfortunately). Thanks for showing this... take care.





   

Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on January 13, 2009, 10:11:09 AM
Nice update. The airport looks great, and you certainly have thought out the flight routes from West End (Too bad that there goes no plane to Imaginia, but where the h#@% do I place the country on the map?). I'm lurking here often, but sometimes I take the effort to write a reply  ;) See you later!

Best,
Maarten
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bokrif on January 13, 2009, 11:07:47 AM
Hi Paul!

This update was superb.
You made a wonderful airport. First I thought it is small. One runway and all that, but than great job! You even made the first plans to expand the airport. Also the cargo terminal is a one that I like too.
Custum lots, makes it even more realistic.
Also when I looked at your airport I thought you missed the whole apron thing, but than until this update you made them too. Not everybody makes these aprons. Constructing an airport in sim city is rather difficult and time consuming. You have joined the professional airport builders society!

And one more thing. That little history of the historic Jeff Sission.. man, I liked it so much.

Good job!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on January 13, 2009, 04:55:49 PM
Very nice airport Paul, and thanks for the info on those buildings. Very nice backstory of Sission too. I hear UNCC is an excellent institution. Well done on the airport, its expansion plans and detialing. However, the stand of lights on the runway in 78.08 seems to be blocking a taxiway. I really like the planned growth for it too. Now I'm just waiting for the population to crest 1,500,000. The overview of the area looks remarkably realistic too now that it's all filled in. Lastly, the MD connections map is a great touch. I know this is a really picky thing to ask, but if the airport ever runs another set of those maps, such as when other airports are added, ask if they could move Greenacre's location up a few pixels (it's more off the LA coast than San Diego).

One last question... which airport bits and pieces did you use to put all this together? I know there are some fine sets out there, but I haven't really looked through any of them in great detail yet.

Hope all is well.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: JBSimio on January 14, 2009, 09:23:39 AM
Fantastic updates, Paul!   &apls

I really enjoyed seeing the "build in progress" during Update 77.  Then you really went all out with Update 78!  I love the background story for Mr. Sisson (I'm sure he would be proud to hear how well he's done for himself in this other life)... and appreciate the various Covington references you've thrown in there.  The overviews are great, but I think the close up pictures really set this update apart.  I especially like the Northwest and KLM pictures (78.03 & 78.08)... they just look so realistic.

Your expansion plans look well thought out and make plenty of logical sense to me.  It will be interesting to watch this grow as time requires.  I'll be particularly curious to see how you work the access roadways around to terminals 2 and 3 when that time comes.  The final route map is an excellent finishing touch to this update.  It looks like Covington is pretty close to the right place... it might be a bit closer to Tennessee in your picture, though (hard to tell at that size, to be honest).  A little further east wouldn't hurt if you feel the need to be overly specific.  ;)

All the best, my friend...
JB
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: tooheys on January 17, 2009, 01:28:37 AM
QuoteThis Qantas flight from Balnavia has just arrived.  Here it is pulling up at the gate.  It's a 23 hour flight, so I'm sure Dave is keen to get off and stretch his legs!

You kidding, I'm passed out in my seat, 23 hours of free beer  ()sick()

Great airport pics, love the close-ups and good to see Qantas making an appearance  :thumbsup:

The overall layout of the terminals, carpark, small plane area, all fit together very well. Might need another taxiway around the runway to keep the controllers stress levels down, but keep giving them coffee and they should be Ok  :)

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on January 17, 2009, 09:53:44 AM
Paul that is a fantastic Airport wow!!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: TheTeaCat on January 17, 2009, 12:15:20 PM
Fantastic update Mate  &apls &apls

I think that you have done an excellent job with the Airport :thumbsup:
Looks much better with the apron markings ;).

Great historical background info on thye town of Sisson too and how its name got changed. :D
I like the links to other MDs too. :thumbsup:

:satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on February 15, 2009, 03:47:38 AM
First up I have to apologise for the lack of updates.  West End started here on SC4D in September 2007 and this is the longest gap there has been.  It's because of a mixture of being very busy in RL and also a bit of SC4 burn-out!!  I think I just needed a bit of a break from the game.  There is quite a bit of development that I've done yet to be displayed here – so hopefully I'll get to show you some more soon.

I think the other problem is that I don't want to just do the same thing over and over again.  But I do have some plans that I am sure will keep my love of the game going – I guess I just need to feel the urge to dive back in.

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David:  Thanks for your comment.

bat:  Thanks bat – I always appreciate your support.

Joan:  Sorry I've not been about much!  And thanks for your detailed and complimentary comment.

Panther:  Hehehe, yeah that parking lot is BIIIIIG!

Sebes:  Hey thanks for the big compliments.  A wonderman hey??!!  And the strip in Regent is taking shape in my mind – guess it'll be some time before it becomes a reality though.

Maarten:  Well, if ever you decide where Imaginia is on the map let me know as I'd be happy to ink it to West End.

Krizstian:  Thanks for the great comment.  Yes, the whole apron thing took many attempts and many hours!!  One thing building this airport taught me is that you will never get it right first time!

Matt:  Cheers Matt, I'm glad you liked it.  And yes those lights in 78.08, I noticed them too but not until I'd taken the pics!!  And sure, I'll move Greenacre a tad to the north.  As for the airport pieces...... I have so many installed that I'm not sure which pieces belong to which sets.  But I think the bulk of it is from the RMIP/RIMP set.  I'm sure they've been added to the LEX within the last couple of months.  I'm sure you'll be able to find them on there quite easily.

Jon:  Thanks for that Jon and glad you liked the Sisson story that you inspired!  And yes, linking up the new terminals will be a challenge for sure!!

Dave:  Free beer for 23 hours – only ever gonna be one result!  And yes, the controllers are certainly kept busy.  Rumoours are additional taxiways will be built when terminal 2 is finished.

Pat:  Cheers Pat, glad you liked it.

Derry:  Thanks Derry.  I enjoyed pulling that update together, so it's always nice when you get comments like yours.


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Some random pics from the Carnaby quad today.  Some are from Sisson and the airport, the rest from Carnaby itself.

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Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on February 15, 2009, 03:54:43 AM
Wow Paul - the region shot is fabulous! 

The finishing touch on the airport and the efficient layout of Carnaby town are very nice.

I can so imagine what you mean when you mention a SC4 burnout... let it rest for a few months and I am sure you will be picking up new projects with the same enthousiasm and superb results as you showed earlier. Talk to you!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Fabian93 on February 15, 2009, 04:03:06 AM
Yes I have to agree.
Your region looks so well planned,
with all those bigger and smaller cities.
Just like a real region  :thumbsup:
I'd love to stay in the Best Western Hotel  :)

Fabian
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Simpson on February 15, 2009, 04:47:36 AM
Hi Paul  :)
My 1600th posts for you and your MD.
This update 79 is, as well, fantastic. And, wow, your region is perfect  :o
But did you take the new euro road textures mod? because we can see american textures in picture 2. Here is a link: Download Windows version (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1302).
I'm looking forward to the next update my friend.
Take care,

David
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Sciurus on February 15, 2009, 05:18:07 AM
The 79th update? :o No, I'm dreaming.... :D
It's just beautiful, and your overview is very impressive, and I see it isn't whole, so, could I've a global overview please? It'll be my welcome present ;D &apls &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: MandelSoft on February 15, 2009, 07:02:53 AM
Nice pics and a splendid region overview (wait a sec, did I see a bus crashing into a car on pic 9?)

Best,
Maarten
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on February 15, 2009, 11:45:58 AM
Hey Paul welcome back to the MD world and playing sc4 lol  ;D Hey you know what we all get that way so no need to appoligez it happens... But hey your back Paul and that is what is counting here!!! Great update and I do look forward to seeing more!!!
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on February 15, 2009, 12:43:51 PM
All the things done there are fantastic Paul. &apls
This airport is very detailed and the result is very nice.

Arthur.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: threestooges on February 15, 2009, 04:20:07 PM
Hello again Paul. It's good to see you're back in action again. Glad to see things are calming down, and there's nothing wrong with taking a break from things. I like the selection of airport hotels and the whole area in general looks pretty good. One thing that caught my attention though, was the tunnel entrance in 79.04. Is there a particular plugin you used for that? It's different from the defult style I have on my lines and, if it is custom, it's something I could certainly use. Thanks for the info on the airport stuff. I'll give a look around the LEX. I know I have a few packs already, but getting things all put together is the tough part. Just a matter of time though. Take it easy, and I'll talk to you later.
-Matt
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on February 15, 2009, 05:21:28 PM
Glad you're back in the game, Paul. West End looks good as ever, and you've definitely done the right thing by adding hotels to the greater airport complex - it just makes sense to do so. Those are some excellent scenes you've chosen for the update - the whole thing is put together very well. The thoughtful preplanning shows. Think I'll book a room at the Courtyard with a waterfront view!

79.06 is stunning. The way the highway, the El, the airport and the nearby neighborhoods fit together is incredible. Carnaby isn't too shabby either! ;D I like those buildings just to the left of City Hall. And forgive me if my memory has slipped a gear again, but I don't recall seeing palm trees (79.09 and .10) in West End before.

Your 'burbs always look great,
and the overview (79.12) is just amazing. It's the best one you've ever shown. I'm saving that photo right now to use as a guideline.

Later...

Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: thundercrack83 on February 15, 2009, 05:25:05 PM
Welcome back, Paul, my good friend!

It's so wonderful to see thing up and running here in WEST END again--the airport looks magnificent, and I love the overview of the hotels that you've provided, it's always great to know what you're options are if you have a layover!

Also, it's good to see the monorail in use, too. It's an oft-overlooked transportation mode that I'm quite a fan of!

Can't wait to see more!

Take care, Paul!

Dustin
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on February 22, 2009, 12:45:31 AM

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Sebes:  Thanks there Sebes.  Still not fired the game up but have a little update here.

Fabian:  The best room at the Best Western has been reserved for you Fabian – next time you're in West End it's there for you!!  Thanks for the comment and I hope you like your part in this update.

David:  Congrats on 1,600 posts there.  And thanks for the compliment.  I'm not sure that it's perfect though!!  Thanks for that link, I will get them soon (probably at the same time I get NAM09).

Sciurus:  Welcome to West End – good to see you here.  Thanks for the comment and yes, I will try to get a whole region view to post soon.

Maarten:  Thanks for the comment and yes, you're right – looks like West End bus drivers are a little crazy!

Pat:  Cheers my friend – yeah, I'm back!!

Arthur:  Thanks there.  I hope you like your part in this update.

Matt:  Cheers Matt – I always enjoy your comments.  I kinda figured all airports I know in RL have plenty of hotels, so why should Sisson be any different!  As for the tunnel – I've had it for sooooooo long I can't be sure which it is.  I have two possibles I've found in my plugins – one is Jeronij's BRF Slope and Tunnel mod and the other is a file called "tunnel.dat".  I guess JRJ's is on the LEX- but as for "tunnel.dat" - I'm not sure, it's an old file dated Feb 2006.  I guess it came from the STEX, but if you'd like me to send the file to you please PM me your email address.

Joan:  I feel bad we've not caught up for ages Joan, so it's always good to see you here.  Thanks for the great comment as well.  I enjoyed putting the hotels together and thought adding the logos would just make a change!  79.04 was a bit of a cheat – as I had to take two pics and stick them together to get both the train and monorail in together!!
I'm glad you like 79.06 as I was also pleased how the area came out.  As for palm trees – there have been one or two – I try not to have them but some lots seem to insist on them!  And the region is taking shape but with my three large quad rebuilds coming up it's going to have to go backwards before we can progress.

Dustin:  Thanks Dustin and sorry I've not been over to Marathon for a while.  You're right the monorail is not used that often and in West End it's only used to link the airport with the major cities (so far).


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Regular visitors will know that West End is a member of IPON – the Independent Pact Of Nations.  This is a CJ/MD union that has been running since November 2007 and currently has nine members.  West End has been a member since January 2008.  We've recently held our seventh summit in Tientsin Fort-Bayart.

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Yesterday, 21st February was IPON Day of Peace and to contribute to the celebration West End produced this video that showcases the nine IPON members.

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I hope you enjoyed the video and if you'd like to know more about IPON or maybe even think about joining our union the follow this link or feel free to PM me.

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Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Jmouse on February 22, 2009, 01:08:06 AM
Hey Paul, what a wonderful idea! I'm kind of partial to West End - don't tell the others :-X - but you can tell them I enjoyed their scenes in the video.

It's good to see you and West End back in the game...
Joan
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: art128 on February 22, 2009, 02:06:05 AM
Paul, this video is just fantastic my friend, excellent work on it.  &apls
One reproach, the pictures you used for Maroanestra are olds ones, actually the spot you taken in these picture are from my last region actually abandoned by bugs, and was done a long time before I join IPON... that would be great if you used more recent pictures from my mosaics!  :thumbsup:

Arthur.
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: bat on February 22, 2009, 02:40:58 AM
Update 79 is really nice! You have a really great city there! It looks beautiful!
And the video is also very nice!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Sciurus on February 22, 2009, 09:50:40 AM
This video is very very excellent!! &apls &apls I just can congratulate you about this, because I think it was very difficult to rezalize this, wasn't it?
Just a question: I'm very interesting about the song, what's its title please? ;)

Guillaume :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Schulmanator on February 22, 2009, 02:43:13 PM
Nicely done! A great video for a great occasion!  &apls
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on February 22, 2009, 04:27:49 PM
Hello Paul, I'm very glad seeing you back active and smiling  :)

Great airport and hotel area! :thumbsup: My favourite shot is the region view (the last picture in update 79). It is really fantastic! :thumbsup:
I looked at your video with a great interest. I didn't know very much about IPON, but I like it! And these worlds - "Keep on smiling, the world will smile with you" - are very close to my heart  :). Thank you for sharing these ideas here!

Adam
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: dedgren on February 24, 2009, 11:05:33 AM
That's a really well put together video, Paul, and whetted my interest in visiting several of the other IPON MDs.  WEST END is always a treat to visit, and it's great that you've hung in there with it for this long.


David
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: warconstruct on March 07, 2009, 05:37:01 AM
Beautiful vidéo  &apls very good job !
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: paroch on April 11, 2009, 01:32:58 PM
Hi Everyone.

I just wanted to drop in and say thanks for all your great comments for the IPON video I posted last time.

My time seems to be taking me in different directions at the moment, and I am not able to devote the time I'd like to be able towards West End.  So I think it's time for this MD to go inactive.  I do hope to be back at some stage in the near future and I will drop by the site from time to time to see what's happening.

A BIG thanks to evryone who has supported West End this far - you've helped make it one of the few MDs to go through the 1,000 comments milestone which is something I've been proud to do.

Hope to catch up with you all soon,

Paul
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Ennedi on April 11, 2009, 01:52:19 PM
Sad to hear it Paul, but all of us are real people and we have real life  :) That's very nice you told us something about your situations and plans. We make virtual cities, but all what happens here is a little part of the real life too  :)
And the most important, you have some real friends here!
Thank you for your visit, I hope something will happen in West End in future (or maybe in another place?), Please visit us in the meantime just to say hi  :thumbsup:

Personally West End means many nice memories for me and I will remember them!

Adam
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Pat on April 11, 2009, 07:44:11 PM
Paul say it aint soooo man nooo you cant goo!!! But if you must I understand and its been a great run with West End and I hope to see you back here soon again...

Wishing you all the best your friend,

Patrick
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: sebes on April 12, 2009, 05:51:28 AM
Sorry to hear that one of my favorite MD's is going into the inactivity dungeons of SC4D....  I guess you will the updating and eagerly awaiting comments as well! I am for one looking forward to the date that you decide to revive West End again...  Untill than: stay in touch!  ;)
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Sciurus on April 13, 2009, 04:35:22 AM
Oh, sorry, it's a big shame for your city, which was beautiful :'(
But I asked you where you found the song, and you didn't answer me, please ;D

Guillaume :thumbsup:
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: Nexis4Jersey on April 13, 2009, 10:02:12 AM
Oh ,  :'(I'm so sorry to hear that RL is taking hold of your life and devotion to the West End, it may be a fate that falls on me to , as i go to community collage in the fall...... :'(

~Corey
Title: Re: WEST END
Post by: danielcote on May 13, 2009, 03:42:56 PM
Oh its too bad this CJ was at the top of its game!   :'(