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Title: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Props / Lots
Post by: Ol.S / Benoit on October 02, 2011, 02:29:36 AM
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City Props - Lots (Page 2)


Farm Props - Lots (Page 2)


Med Farms (Page 1)
http://www.2shared.com/file/kKM4ecWG/LM_LE-Farms.html (http://www.2shared.com/file/kKM4ecWG/LM_LE-Farms.html)

Med Marina (Page 1)
http://www.2shared.com/file/E2vC494D/LM_LE-Marina.html (http://www.2shared.com/file/E2vC494D/LM_LE-Marina.html)

LOTs North Africa (Amazraou update)
http://www.2shared.com/file/SJwUdETG/LM_LE-Sahara.html (http://www.2shared.com/file/SJwUdETG/LM_LE-Sahara.html)

Med Town (Presuntuoso & Encerrado updates)
http://www.2shared.com/file/NZcSh5Sr/LM_LE-Town.html (http://www.2shared.com/file/NZcSh5Sr/LM_LE-Town.html)

Med plazas (Page 1)
http://www.2shared.com/file/GEmzIly4/LM_LE-TownPlaza.html (http://www.2shared.com/file/GEmzIly4/LM_LE-TownPlaza.html)


The idea of this topic is to show you my work, my creations, that you'll probably also see in my MD
Do not esitate to comment and criticize it !
Finally, if something interest you, I'll be glad to share it ! (Well I guess I can no ?)
Title: Med Marina
Post by: Ol.S / Benoit on October 02, 2011, 02:37:46 AM
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Here is the first part of a marina-style kit with a méditerranean atmosphere : Med Marina
I know it's far from being perfect, so feel free to comment and help me to improve it !
Special thanks to all the guys who created the props & flora I used here :) Mostly Mbear, csx and VIP team work I think  ;)


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First question : Why do CAL boats are in a different spot ingame that I puted them in the LE ? I've seen that their is 3 props for each boat. First prop must be on the LOT so I c'ant use it here, second and third props appear in front of the docks in the LE, and somewhere else ingame, and I need help here !
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - Med Marina
Post by: art128 on October 02, 2011, 02:51:28 AM
Those are some incredible lots, Benoit!
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - Med Marina
Post by: noahclem on October 02, 2011, 03:31:49 AM
Great lots Benoit!  &apls  I look forward to seeing them in Spain Inspirations.

I've never used Cal boats in LE and I also don't understand what causes things to look different between LE and game, though offset-rendered props always seem to be present when trouble comes.

Perhaps if you keep experimenting with placement of the cal boat props in LE you'll get it. Otherwise you may have to work with non-offset-rendered boats. But hopefully someone else can offer more help than I  ;D
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - Med Marina
Post by: Ol.S / Benoit on October 03, 2011, 04:54:13 AM
Thanks guys :)

Yeah I guess it's possible to imagine where the boats will plop ingame, as it's not randomly done !
But it's a bit complicated, and I think I really can't in a small LOT, they are going very far from it ingame ! Also, if I have to work with non-offset-rendered boats, it implies land & water LOT, making transparent texture etc etc... Not good ! Well I guess I'll just not use them :)
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - Med Marina
Post by: jmdude1 on October 03, 2011, 06:49:05 AM
the lots look good.  if you want, you can try these plop boats so you dont need to worry where they are placed on your lots.  i dont think all of the boats you use are in the file but there are some sailboats.

http://www.simtropolis.com/forum/files/file/26480-lak-47-small-boat-pack/

some people props might add some life as well, search the lot editor for 'amill'.  i look forward to seeing more of your work!
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - Med Marina
Post by: bat on October 03, 2011, 07:18:03 AM
That are some fantastic lots there! Great work on them!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - Med Marina
Post by: Ol.S / Benoit on October 05, 2011, 01:28:56 AM
jmdude1 : Thanks, thoose sailboats are nice, and I think I'll make my own plappable with other CAL boats :) I forgot people props on most of theese LOTs your right...

bat : Thanks :)
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - Med Marina
Post by: rooker1 on October 05, 2011, 09:21:33 AM
 The LOTs look fantastic.  &apls I'm sure a lot of members will find these very usefull as I know there aren't very many LOTs done in this style.

Cal's boats come in three styles if I remember correctly.  One normal prop, one short offset and one long offset.  They are most likely labeled appropriately, knowing Cal.

When making LOTs try to remember how they will all work together or how others may use them, if you plan on going public.  I say this because, unless you plan to put a road/street down the middle, I see no way for the cars to get from LOT to LOT.  Right now the land you have there is four tiles wide, you would need 5 wide, two tiles on each side for the LOTs and one tile for the transportation.
Try to remember to add some alley ways between buildings/LOTs, for vehicle access to the docks.  I would suggest adding more life/Sims and some action props.
Are you creating these LOTs with PIM-X?  If not, you'll find it on the LEX, it's a great tool for properly modding LOTs.  You drag your model in to the appropriate spot, whether landmark or park, etc and the program will do the rest for you.  This would be the easiest way to eventually see your work on the LEX.

Just my two cents,
Robin &apls
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - Med Marina
Post by: Ol.S / Benoit on October 05, 2011, 12:11:08 PM
Thanks Robin :)

QuoteCal's boats come in three styles if I remember correctly.  One normal prop, one short offset and one long offset.
Yes indeed, but the two offset props are not in the same spot in the LE and ingame, they plop 46m and 113m from it if I remember well. Of curse you can use them but in small LOTs like in this set, there is no way that they appear just in front of the docks ingame, I tryed several times.

Quote...if you plan on going public.
This will probably go public, but not now. However I can send the pack to anyone by mail as i don't have to make a readme or list the dependancies. (Or just a quick one)

QuoteWhen making LOTs try to remember how they will all work together or how others may use them
These lots work quite well together, I thaught about that. You do realise that for each picture the same lot is plopped 2 times ? And if their is no room between the 2 LOTs here, this is just to show them, no more, do not pay attention for the four tiles. Of curse you can drag a road/street next to it.

Here is an example with some of them (23 LOTs for the entire set, with everything you need :) ) :
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I also have some action props on the second part of the set, and ok for the sims/life, duly noted, just forgot.

QuoteAre you creating these LOTs with PIM-X?
Not yet, but when I'll upload the set for public share, I will use it and make sure the set is easy to use :) . Now the LOTs are just landmarks with water & power needs, and environment bonus.
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - Med Marina
Post by: Evillions8 on October 14, 2011, 04:10:31 PM
Fantastic lotting!  &apls

Will this be for release?
Title: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - Med Plaza
Post by: Ol.S / Benoit on October 27, 2011, 10:02:48 AM
Evillions8 : Thanks :) Well I don't think this will be released as this is really freestyle lotting... I don't have much time to release them and the main point is that there will be a bit to much dependancies for many people and I can already see the nice comments about that  :D
But, as I said before, if you want them you PM me your email adress and I'll send them to you, with the informations you need.
BTW sorry for the late answer.





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Here is a new freestyle lotting set, med style plazas and a med farm.
Nothing very impressive, just a quick LE work


1
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2
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3
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4
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5
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6 - Med Farm - Ranch Style
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Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - Med Plaza
Post by: carlfatal on October 28, 2011, 03:42:38 PM
Hi Benoit,
first class work with the LE, really beautiful lots!  &apls
I´ll look in here again to steal Your ideas although i´m not planning any Mediterranean setting.  ;)
Greetz, Carl
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - Med Plaza
Post by: Terring7 on November 02, 2011, 10:41:10 AM
Very nice lots. Are you going to release the marina kit? It looks very interesting and I would like to play with it :)
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - Med Plaza
Post by: FrankU on November 03, 2011, 04:10:10 AM
Hi Benoit,

Did you solve the problem of the boats that appeared differently in LE than in Game?
I don't know CAL's props, but if he has made the offset by using the RKT4 property I know the explanation.
I have been fooling around with RKT4 properties. With these you can offset a model from its prop. I just found out that LotEditor shows them in a wrong offset!
Take a look here (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=13351.msg385267#msg385267) where I explained it. It's really confusing. The only solution is: don't use LE, use SC4-Pim.

Nice lots by the way!
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - Med Plaza
Post by: Ol.S / Benoit on November 03, 2011, 04:54:23 AM
eufl : Thanks Carl :)
Terring7 : Thanks. Maybe I will release them if I can find a bit more time but not know :)
FrankU : Nope, actually I didn't try to solve it since last time :) I guess I understand the idea and maybe If I have some time I'll look closer to that. Thanks for the tip :)
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - Med Plaza
Post by: Yan077 on November 03, 2011, 05:07:58 AM
You have hidden talents, excellent lots Benoit, will be very interesting for my MD !!  ;D
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - Med Plaza
Post by: ThomasK on December 29, 2011, 03:52:56 AM
I have a Mediterranean MD, nowhere near the same league as yours mind, and I must say that any of these lots would be highly sought-after by Mediterranean CJers everywhere. They are truly magnificent and I really do hope you continue the great work and release them eventually because there is a shortage of Mediterranean lots like these.
Title: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - New Year Gift
Post by: Ol.S / Benoit on December 31, 2011, 07:37:53 AM
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Thanks a lot for your comments guys :)
Some of you asked for my LOTs and I'll be glad to share theme, so here is the download link :

http://www.2shared.com/file/MGSjN4Qj/LE_Ol_Scare_-_Benoit.html

You will find in the ZIP file all the LOTs I used for Presuntuoso, Encerrado, Amazraou & Chiesa Nuova. You can check the updates then you know what you will find in it !

There are 93 files sorted in different folders then you can pick what you want/need. Remember that this is freestyle lotting, then somtimes this is not so good...
I checked with the reader and for some of them there are quite some dependancies, you are informed !

All the LOTs are in the park & landmark menus. I initially worked with the "Piazza Barbina" from Mbear & the "Alexander Column" from Odainsaker, don't ask why, I have no idea !

Next time, I'll give you the LOTs I used for "El Paraiso"

Happy new year ! :)

Presuntuoso
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Encerrado
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Amazraou
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Chiesa Nuova
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Chiesa Nuova
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Encerrado
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Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - New Year Gift
Post by: ThomasK on December 31, 2011, 08:58:36 AM
Thank you very much for releasing the lots - they all look fantastic and I can't wait to start using them. That's made my New Year!  :D
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - New Year Gift
Post by: noahclem on January 12, 2012, 04:34:43 AM
Very nice present for New Years  :thumbsup:  The lotting around here continues to be of excellent quality  &apls &apls

I won't be downloading yet since my work right now can't really fit this style (no Mediterranean marinas at my ski resort  :D ) but I very much look forward to using them in a beach resort area--I even have a pretty good idea of where they'll fit into the Siilijoki region!

Happy New Year!
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - New Year Gift
Post by: Kergelen on June 03, 2012, 11:42:19 AM
Hi Benoit, :)

I would like to download your Lots but I can't download them. When I click on the link I get a new window where but I can not download it. It is necessary to use some program to download it?

Edit: Solved. I just download it. Thanks for sharing :thumbsup:
Title: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Models / Props / Lots
Post by: Ol.S / Benoit on June 10, 2012, 05:35:48 AM
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All the downloads are now available on the first post ! :)
Back in business ! I worked with some models for my projects, why not share them ?  No download for know, will upload the packs without the models soon

City Models - Props - Lots
LOTs for your cities with Mattb325, Xannepan, Andreas & kwakelaar models.
No dependencies, execpt for the circled LOTs. This pack contains models and props for LE.
The LOTs are in the "Power" menu.

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This pack also contains these LOTs in the "Park" menu (Models but no props for buildings) Watch out for dependencies here.
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Farm Models - Props - Lots
LOTs for rural areas, with Andreas models.
No dependencies, execpt for the circled LOTs. This pack contains models and props for LE.
The LOTs are in the "Power" menu.

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Base building for all the LOTs is this power plant Electric power plant (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/2152-electric-power-plant/) Transparent building, not sure if needed but just in case... :)

That's all for today, I'm working on "Tips and tricks" for LE in french with my "knowledge" of the soft, if some of you are interested I could translate it ! :)
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Models / Props / Lots
Post by: vortext on June 10, 2012, 05:59:05 AM
Do you have permission from all the creators to redistribute their models? If not, you must point towards the original downloads as dependencies.

Also, you've included the .LooseDesc files which aren't necessary.
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Models / Props / Lots
Post by: art128 on June 10, 2012, 06:12:14 AM
QuoteNo dependencies, execpt for the circled LOTs. This pack contains models and props for LE

Wait, do you have the permissions from the authors of the models? If not I'm afraid the downloads will get closed. I don't think it is really good for the creator to upload their work re-loted WITHOUT their own works as a dependency.

Also one more thing, it would have been better to use a standard base texture like the maxis white one, so that everyone can use the lots without going through some LE sessions and/or modding.
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Models / Props / Lots
Post by: Ol.S / Benoit on June 10, 2012, 06:38:15 AM
Well the idea was just to make it simple for the community... I named the creators and respect them a lot (As always, I even name them in most of my updates... all credits for them), I'm not doing this as a "pirate" !

I do not "Redestribute"... I just share and try to make it simple as some of the models here are not available as props, as some people can't use the LE, and as some of them are tired with dependencies !... Again, all credits to creators, but I get your point so no downloads then...


Quick note : I've seen that quite all the STEX and LEX is available on SimCityChina, and I guess the idea is just to help and share.

For the ground texture or .LooseDesc files, again, this is freestyle loting, made for me... You take it or not ! :) (Just forgot to delete .LooseDesc files but no big deal)
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Props / Lots
Post by: art128 on June 10, 2012, 06:48:39 AM
Quote from: Ol.S / Benoit on June 10, 2012, 06:38:15 AM

Quick note : I've seen that quite all the STEX and LEX is available on SimCityChina, and I guess the idea is just to help and share.



That case is different because of two factors : Chinese telecoms block access to many occidental websites, and some Chinese people do not speak a single English word.

And it's not ' No download then ' it's just.... pure respect to do that. Giving credit is okay, well maybe just " m'kay " but in general, when you do a relot of a building, you do NOT include the Models. You link them as a dependency.

But then, I won't start arguing about this useless thing.
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Props / Lots
Post by: weixc812 on June 10, 2012, 07:26:35 AM
Quote from: art128 on June 10, 2012, 06:48:39 AM
Quote from: Ol.S / Benoit on June 10, 2012, 06:38:15 AM

Quick note : I've seen that quite all the STEX and LEX is available on SimCityChina, and I guess the idea is just to help and share.



That case is different because of two factors : Chinese telecoms block access to many occidental websites, and some Chinese people do not speak a single English word.

And it's not ' No download then ' it's just.... pure respect to do that. Giving credit is okay, well maybe just " m'kay " but in general, when you do a relot of a building, you do NOT include the Models. You link them as a dependency.

But then, I won't start arguing about this useless thing.
The case of SimCityChina(SCCN) is quite complex...
Since I'm one of the moderators there,  I have to make some explaination:
    We do have a section for BATs and LOTs re-uploaded from ST, SC4D and some other sites, but they are simply provided for the personal use of SCCN members. Since most Chinese players have trouble reading English, we want to give them the access to the high quality BATs and LOTs uploaded to foreign Exchange sites. We have strict citeria for transferring BATs and LOTs, for example, the member must give the correct name of the original BAT maker and conform to certain forms.  We think this shows respect to all the original BAT makers.
    The China National Firewall has banned some foreign websites for the reason I can't tell. Among them are SimPeg and photo exchange site Imageshack. So it's extremely difficult for us to download BATs or even see some of the pictures here. It's quite a pity then, and it's why we're trying our best to keep the whole Chinese community connected with the world family here.
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Props / Lots
Post by: Ol.S / Benoit on June 10, 2012, 07:41:35 AM
Arthur :
My thought process here is just to say that after all these years, people take time to share their work for free... I respect that a lot, maybe I don't say that enaugh, so I try to take some of my time to do the same and upload my "messed-up" work ! :) (Nothing impressive, no models, but this is all I can do ^^)
So I tried to make it simple for me, why not do it for the community ? Well, for the next one I'll try to find more time and list the 50 dependencies ^^
Hope you understand my point, I was wrong, ok I get it ! :)

Weixc812 :
"We think this shows respect to all the original BAT makers." I understand and it does ! :) Know, does my process is disrespectful for the creators ? Well considering what I have done, I don't think so... I remember when I came here a bit more than a year ago, I was having a hard time to find the dependencies etc... As for SCChina, just trying to help... Maybe this was not the best way to do so.
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Props / Lots
Post by: Girafe on June 10, 2012, 07:54:59 AM
I didn't know that SSCN uploded LEX and STEX files...

I understand chinese players who would like to DL foreign stuffs and can't due to restrictions or language frontier.

But I would be very disappointed if my stuff was uploaded on this website without any demand or agreement before.

Just hope that the name of authors, their country and teams are mentionned (just a question of gratitude...)
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Props / Lots
Post by: catty on June 10, 2012, 11:44:13 AM
Hi Guys

This topic has been reported to us and will be locked while we look into the situation, the lock remains in place while the site staff discuss the issues raised in this topic and if changes need to be made to the site policy or if the rules need to be clarified.

Thanks to Ol.S / Benoit for his patience in the meantime

catty (Global Moderator)
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Props / Lots
Post by: catty on June 12, 2012, 06:22:37 PM
Hi Guys and Ol.S / Benoit

After much discussion among site staff regarding the issues raised in this topic and here

http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=14837.0

the site rules on the forums and also on the LEX where it is clearly stated "If you upload someone else's creation without permission your Access will be terminated" will remain, but we may make changes to the forum rules to make this very clear to people.

As for how this effects Ol.S / Benoit, it was felt by staff that his was a genuine effort to be helpful to other site users and there was no intention to break site rules, as such his topic is now unlocked.

As for the issue raised regarding the chinese site copying people's work to their site, I would hope that every effort is made to contact those people and get their permission, I know I would be OK at having my stuff copied for the reasons given, as long as no-one expected me to provide support for them and I was clearly identified as the creator.

thank you everyone for your comments both here and  http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=14837.0  and for your patience while it was discussed by staff.

Anyone who wishes to discuss this further, please PM me.

catty (Global Moderator)
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Props / Lots
Post by: Ol.S / Benoit on June 27, 2012, 11:13:44 AM
Ok thanks, I understand, no problem. See you soon with more stuff. :)
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Props / Lots
Post by: noahclem on June 27, 2012, 12:18:08 PM
Great to have you back Benoit  &hlp
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Props / Lots
Post by: Kergelen on June 27, 2012, 12:38:58 PM
 Glad to continue seeing your Lotting :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Props / Lots
Post by: ThomasK on July 12, 2012, 04:44:07 AM
I'm slightly confused. Will these farm and urban buildings come up in LE or in the actual game, like your previous harbour lots?
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Props / Lots
Post by: jeckyll on February 16, 2013, 10:51:17 AM
Hi everyone, I'm looking for a docks and a fountain from this picture. Especially the docks. There's no dependency list &mmm. Does anyone know where i can download it? It's very important for me to get it as fast as possible ;) Jecky.

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Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Props / Lots
Post by: vortext on February 16, 2013, 10:56:43 AM
The docks are in one of JES megapacks, the fountain can be found in Mbear vol2, if I'm not mistaken. Otherwise in another MBear pack.
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Props / Lots
Post by: jeckyll on February 16, 2013, 11:01:22 AM
Thank you so much for fast reply!

I hope that Ol.S / Benoit will create full dependency list. :)
Title: Re: Ol.S / Benoit Lot Factory - City & Farm Props / Lots
Post by: Hellken on July 12, 2019, 03:22:28 PM
Hi. It's been years since these were available. The links are dead now. I still have MedMarina-ST (But not the rest sadly). I could re-upload that. But would that be OK with the site admins? If anyone had the others would re-uploading those be OK too?