Hello fellow SC4D Members! Well, I've finally decided to throw in the towel and... start a mayor's diary. Now before I launch into an introduction of my city, let me tell you about my playing style and region. This may evolve into a story or showcase-themed MD, but its primary nature will be to serve as an inquiry into the nature of urbanism. I will post screenshots from my Simcity cities as well as pictures of RL cities gleaned from the web (collected from too many sources to cite) in order to further any thoughts or ideas I may wish to express.
My building style may probably seem peculiar- I prefer combining and using both European and urban US BATs, which is a combination probably not found in many RL cities! :D So if you see a neogothic European W2W District next to an American rowhouse W2W district, don't ask! ;)
I am not a big fan of region play, and prefer to build on flat ground, so I'm not going to bother posting regional shots because (a) the regional maps are just boring flat slabs made by me and (b) the development as seen from the air would look irregular and schizophrenic, as I don't like to build suburbs and there is an abrupt dividing line between my urban areas and open land.
So, without further ado...
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Below is an aerial view of my current city, often used for BAT testing and planning experimentation. If you have been following the SC4 Picture Competition (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=804.0) thread, the screenshot for my contribution to that thread was taken in this city:
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The high-rise "projects" tower over the downtown highway:
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In a run-down apartment building near these projects, an unemployed person contemplates the meaning of the phrase "Outsourcing is good for our economy":
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A more stable northeastern neighborhood:
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Unfortunately this rowhouse district nearby is not so fortunate:
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The once ever-present ring of industry around the city center is slowly dying out...:
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...and gaps where buildings have been lost to dereliction and arson are becoming increasingly prevalent:
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Another industrial scene near the edge of town...:
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...and the city skyline can be seen off in the distance:
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And finally, here's a closeup of the city center. You'll note that most of the high rises are old (pre-WWII) as after the war, massive suburbanization, white flight, and the corresponding economic slump put a damper on any new development:
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Will the city center be revitalized or will it sink further into economic ruin? Stick around to find out! :thumbsup:
Great start you have here, marcszar! I love the mix of game pictures with real life ones, and the real life ones you chose really look like they were taken in your city. I can't wait to see how things develop around here...or perhaps they'll stagnate...Either way, I'll be sticking around to find out!
Wonderfully depressing and grim. I love it and such a different take on an MD I await further fantastic updates &apls
Quote from: marcszar on April 26, 2007, 09:09:40 PM
Hello fellow SC4D Members! Well, I've finally decided to throw in the towel and... start a mayor's diary.
... and another dream of mine is coming true . &dance
OOH &hlp
What a wonderful MD start Marcszar! It reads like a documentary(in the best possible sense of that word) on the current situation and what let to it, without shaming and blaming. "$Deal"$
I am curious how this city will develop. down or up? down or up? always the same question, never the same answer :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I look forward to it's future.
Strech.
Ohh.......this is going to be great, a MD from Marcszar. So far so great my friend. This is my favourite style. So very realistic for very old cities it's scary. You have done an outstanding job and I hope to do just as well with my MD with some more pratice and of coarse many more visits here to your MD. Many, many ideas I have after looking at your's.
Great job,
Robin :thumbsup: &apls :thumbsup: &apls
This will become a classic... I am sure....
I love you buildingstyle of combining European and US buildings. The atmosphere in all pitcurs is so... Marcszar :thumbsup:
I'll stay tuned ..
Finally!!A cj about grit and grime, i love this marc!!! ()stsfd()
This should definitely be a good MD :thumbsup:
Especially from a Hall of Famer like marcszar.
Yes! Gritty, dirty, old, industrial, run-down, crime-ridden, filthy.... PERFECT!
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This is what I've always tried to do with my inner-cities, and it never comes out as good as you've just shown. I'll definitely be watching and taking notes :)
Too cool for words!
You've always been making great stuff and this is no exception.
I'll definately be following this.
wow this is amazing! i love the style. will definately be back for more!!
&apls Very nice work and pics. Looking forward :thumbsup:
I don't know if my opinion counts, but I smell "Special Interest This Month" for May 2007...
Great start and fantastic pictures! :thumbsup:
now I'm depressed &mmm ....but in a good way ;D I love that you are taking on a MD. I look forward to seeing what you have in store for this city....any city in particular that you are basing it on? I see some of your real world shots look like they are from NY. Declining industry is too all familiar here in Ohio....what once was the heart of the American steel industry.
A nice mix of real life and simcity, this can make for a interesting MD, and the presentation is very good
All we need now are some mayor-mode ghetto palms :thumbsup:
wow-ing ! you've made splendid urban-decay suburb ! (Well Schonbrun is a bit weird just next to the airport )
BTW what are the three big building on this pic :
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wow thats awsome! i think the city will prosper again they all do! &apls
Great to see this approach to the game over here. I've always thought that the ugly can be beautiful too. ;) If that makes sense. :P
Is that NYC where you've taken the real-life shots from?
Can't wait for more.
This looks absolutely amazing Marc, I came in here as soon as I saw your name over the door. I wasn't dissapointed, your pictures are really amzingly beautiful in a sort of grimy way. I think that makes sense... &mmm
Anyway, great work, can't wait to see more.
Fred
WoW totaly jaw dropping work here marc and a grimmy looking city.
this so reminds me of like chicago or detroit and a little new york.
keep up the dirty work and will be scouring around for more - pat
It would be a great thing to see this really, really fine start to a MD updated. The seamless mix of artfully rendered "game" images with real-life streetscenes and wasted urban scapes is something to behold. Many of SC4D's mayors' diaries approach art- this one makes it all the way there. One can only hope we'll be seeing much more.
David
Great start Marc. I like the social commentary angle. I hope this MD prospers even if the city stagnates!
Stewart
ewww... grimy is correct.
AWESOME city. a refreshing break from my ultramodern suburb hells :P
I hope to see another update soon. I'm starting have withdrawls.
Robin ;)
Quote from: rooker1 on June 13, 2007, 10:32:07 AM
I hope to see another update soon. I'm starting have withdrawls.
Robin ;)
I may start having them also Rooker, I await more wonderful yet grim updates. fantastic work