Today I wanted to look into SimPeg and had to learn, that one of the old and important communities isn´t anymore. :(
I never was very active there aside from downloading and lurking. But I want to say thank you and good bye.
Mod Edit: Renamed topic to make it clear the website is no longer active. Original title could have been interpreted wrongly. - CasperVg (July 3rd, 2015)
You think it has gone completely? Isn't it just some maintenance mode?
I doubt it's maintenance mode.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhL7GUjK.jpg&hash=0370b54dab64f7d22b231667ef6b0ce917910f20)
We just have to wait and see. The admins at Simpeg don't know what's really happening either and no words from Pegasus so far.
Really just wait and see if it comes back. If it doesn't, then it's the end of it.
I never really liked Simpeg anyway so It doesn't really affects me.
So all the uploads from the Plex are gone or moved somewere else?
Shame it gone.
Too bad seeing as most of the old stuff from Pegasus that are still hosted on the STEX have had the updated versions hosted ONLY on the PLEX.
Sad to see one of the most popular English-speaking SC4 fansites go :(
QuoteToo bad seeing as most of the old stuff from Pegasus that are still hosted on the STEX have had the updated versions hosted ONLY on the PLEX.
Hopefully some sort of archive containing all the PLEX uploads will be released somewhere, so that the latest versions can be uploaded to the STEX or somewhere else.
Quote from: CasperVg on July 03, 2015, 05:18:35 AM
Hopefully some sort of archive containing all the PLEX uploads will be released somewhere, so that the latest versions can be uploaded to the STEX or somewhere else.
That is if the current EULA of SC4 Mod content will allow one to re-upload another person's content without the need for first notifying the original author of the said re-upload of their content.
This WAS and still is, the biggest hindrance in the SC4 community for people who need Dependencies or any other content for that matter that are no longer easily obtainable.
This must be a bad joke or a virus......................... :crytissue:
What the actual f. . . &mmm ()what() Paging Blunder and/or Simcoug for much needed clarification.
If you open SimPeg, then you can find a last message, that they close after 15 years.
http://www.simpeg.com/
Quote from: carlfatal on July 03, 2015, 08:13:20 AM
If you open SimPeg, then you can find a last message, that they close after 15 years.
We (the simpeg admins) do not believe that message came from Pegasus; he has better grammar than that message and it's shorter than something he would write in a case like this. We believe it to be either auto-generated by the host or placed by a malicious 3rd party.
We currently believe this is likely a maintenance issue (or hosting. Hostgator has been problematic the last few months, as you may have noticed trying to get to our homepage) and we've emailed Pegasus. Until we hear back from him there's really nothing we can do and everything is speculation.
My sincerest best wishes to you all in resolving this really concerning development. We're all better off when the SC4 community has more choices and communities, to say nothing of the potential loss of access to all the materials on the PLEX. I know I'd be devastated if I lost my SC4 home here.
Quote from: epicblunder on July 03, 2015, 09:02:11 AM
...We (the simpeg admins) do not believe that message came from Pegasus; he has better grammar than that message and it's shorter than something he would write in a case like this....
I really hope so, unfortunately the series of articles "History of the Internet by the Superuser" now being posted on the site would suggest otherwise
http://simpeg.com/articles?showall=1&limitstart=
The "History of the Internet" bit is definitely his. If you click on the little Adam Savage caricature at the top, it takes you to the website of the Newport Harbor Elks Club (http://newportelks.com/index.php/website), where the article apparently originated last year. He's listed as the author there, and appears to be the club's webmaster. As far as the original "farewell" post, I don't have the foggiest idea who wrote it. The waving 3D clown GIF does look like something Peg would use, but the text does not match with his posting style at all.
As I said over on the ST thread, if the site is truly closing down, it is a big blow to the SC4 community, and this is a strange and sad way for it to end. SimPeg one of the "big three" sites that's stuck with it through all these years, and it hits close to home here at SC4D. My best wishes go out to you, epicblunder, and the rest of the SimPeg staff, in dealing with this unfortunate situation.
-Alex
this is so sad :( A dark time for all sc4 fans. The team out there at simpeg was amazing. Lots of great BATs. I am glad that i have most of their creations downloaded in my pc.
RIP SIMPEG :( :crytissue: :( &cry2
I am also sad to see SimPeg and the PLEX gone ()sad()
I guess that throws open the question of the hosting of content! I know the Stex is harder to navigate due to its general city building nature.
So I guess we may need to have a discussion that allows new users to get there hands on content while simultaneously not stealing from the creator. The main reason SC4 has survived so long has been the 3rd party modding done by the community.
I can't think of any solution at this point in time but I guess it is a general discussion that has to be had.
-eggman121
I had noticed that for the longest time they had all kinds of issues going on- I wonder if this helped make that decision.
nooooooooooooooooooooooo all the great materials, mods and tutorials from that very useful page are gone :(
Confirmed, unfortunately. (http://community.simtropolis.com/forums/topic/68292-where-did-simpegcom-go/?do=findComment&comment=1580390) :( It sounds like the data got irreparably corrupted, which is an absolute tragedy, and every site runner's worst fear. As the guy effectively in charge of SC4D now, with Jeroni retired from active duty, this hits especially close to home. My heart absolutely breaks for the PegProd team.
-Alex
Confirmed. SimPeg is dead. While some PLEX files are on STEX, it is largely incomplete and the updated versions are mostly on the PLEX.
This is really sad. The PLEX maybe can reactivated, cause the files exist. But the most tragic in my view is the community, who lost a place, and needs to deal with the loss of MDs, tutorials, or similar things. ()sad()
This is just unbelievable really, SimPeg gone in the blink of an eye. ()sad()
I spend quite a bit of time on Simpeg, especially during Historic Harbor development. Can't believe the pages and pages of PMs between Krashspeed, Simcoug and myself are gone. I actually re-read some of it not too long ago, as we often had forays into technical aspects it had become a personal reference book of sorts.
Not to mention the loss of all the wonderfully unique CJs and Simposiom articles. I hope the Simpeg community will find a new home, either here or at ST and will continue to enjoy the game.
Totally gutted about this myself too.
With all the current problems I took a copy of a couple of my tutorials as a precaution, but I never thought it would really be necessary. Hopefully at least the content will find some way to live on, that would be a tragedy if it was lost forever. RIP Simpeg.
Good news the PLEX is going to be recreated and will be available on the STEX it just has to be organised
http://community.simtropolis.com/forums/topic/68469-simpeg-productions-farewell/#comment-1580523
:)
Yes, the PLEX will return in some way. But the loss is for the community, - I mean, all the MDs, all the forums, even all PMs gone, simply gone. One guy wrote on ST, that he tried to open the site to update his blog, - pure horror... ()sad()
I hope, that there is a way to recover at least some of the content. And I wish the community the best luck to find a new home and start again.
Quote from: carlfatal on July 05, 2015, 05:07:09 PM
Yes, the PLEX will return in some way. But the loss is for the community, - I mean, all the MDs, all the forums, even all PMs gone, simply gone. One guy wrote on ST, that he tried to open the site to update his blog, - pure horror... ()sad()
I hope, that there is a way to recover at least some of the content. And I wish the community the best luck to find a new home and start again.
As I said over at Simtropolis I'm amazed that there were no backup's of the site, even old ones would have been something ... I've always been happy to donate every year for the hosting fees and would have come up with a bit more cash for site backups to take place if it had ever come up as something that needed doing and wasn't happening ... :crytissue:
As for a new home I think most people are also members of other sites like here, but given I do run my own website if any fellow SimPeg members want their own space I'm happy to oblige ... just let me know :thumbsup:
Quote from: Tarkus on July 04, 2015, 10:08:13 PM
Confirmed, unfortunately. (http://community.simtropolis.com/forums/topic/68292-where-did-simpegcom-go/?do=findComment&comment=1580390) :( It sounds like the data got irreparably corrupted, which is an absolute tragedy, and every site runner's worst fear. As the guy effectively in charge of SC4D now, with Jeroni retired from active duty, this hits especially close to home. My heart absolutely breaks for the PegProd team.
-Alex
It's more of someone else on his shared server was compromised, and once one site gets flushed they can flush everything quite quickly - it happened to my .com on hostgator last year. The site was also likely well over the maximum size for backups.
Alas, a greater percentile of Megaupload's data is left over than SimPeg's, making backups physically impossible.
Quote from: Kitsune on July 05, 2015, 06:16:21 PM
It's more of someone else on his shared server was compromised, and once one site gets flushed they can flush everything quite quickly - it happened to my .com on hostgator last year. The site was also likely well over the maximum size for backups.
Thanks for the insight, Kitsune. They had been having some crazy database errors before the site completely went up in smoke--the front page was coming up with a HostGator 403 page for the past month, and required back links to access. There was quite a bit of odd things happening.
SC4D also happens to be on HostGator, but we've been running on a dedicated server for most of the site's existence (though
jeronij has one other (much smaller) site he runs on the server), which (fortunately) means we are insulated from an unrelated site imploding and taking us out. It all still hits pretty close to home, however, and we're working to ensure we are absolutely prepared in case fate decides to be similarly cruel to us, and looking to make sure we have multiple backups of the forum and LEX content at the ready.
-Alex
Sad, sad news!
I hope the Simpeg friends will find a new home.
The good news is that the files of the PLEX have been saved.
Very sad news. Many thanks to the Simpeg staff for the great work. I will miss it.
Bad news. I am glad to see they might be able to save most of the files from PLEX, but SimPeg was more than just a download database.
Granted I wasn't very active at SimPeg, but I did stop by regularly to see what was new, and if anything interesting was uploaded.
And the lesson from this really is: Nothing lasts forever, especially if its digital. :(
Quote from: vortext on July 05, 2015, 03:27:49 AM
..... Not to mention the loss of all the wonderfully unique CJs and Simposiom articles. ...
Well ... in relation to the symposium fortunately I had copies and already sent to them now about CJs really was a great loss.
This was shocking news to come back to... Unfortunately, I'm sure we will be feeling this loss for a long time to come. Not only is the loss of SC4 knowledge staggering, but the 'home' that many SC4 fans came to rely on is no more. A very sad day. ()sad()
Quote from: Simcoug on July 07, 2015, 09:05:14 AM
...but the 'home' that many SC4 fans came to rely on is no more. A very sad day. ()sad()
I've just activated Krio's account over at CB as he wants to set up his bat support thread, I've suggested he puts it over here
http://city-builders.info/cb-groups
:)
It is sad to see this happen, not only for the people running it, but it is a major blow to the community to lose this repository. I sincerely hope that the PegProd team still have the original files and they can maybe upload them elsewhere (hopefully to the LEX)
Quote from: travismking on July 08, 2015, 09:27:42 AM
...I sincerely hope that the PegProd team still have the original files and they can maybe upload them elsewhere (hopefully to the LEX)
Not unfortunately to the LEX, but they are being uploaded to here
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/category/32-plex/
:thumbsup:
at least its somewhere, thanks to all those involved to get the stuff up for the community :)
Indeed... Having lost the SimPeg stuff forever would have been very sad, although I do have most of them on my HD (and on a backup HD).
A dedicated section on the STEX is a good idea. Somehow I remember that there was some disagreement between Pegasus and SC4D, so I think a section on the LEX is not obvious.
Quote from: FrankU on July 06, 2015, 02:19:51 AM
Sad, sad news!
I hope the Simpeg friends will find a new home...
Tariel is here http://www.city-builders.info/cb-groups/item/46-tariel
Krio is here http://www.city-builders.info/cb-groups/item/44-krioworks
and a sort of general SimPeg group is here http://www.city-builders.info/cb-groups/item/45-simpeg-shelter
The SimPeg site address and website no longer exists ... I knew it came to an end in the last week of July, I was just hoping he might change his mind before the final switch was thrown ()sad()
I've added a RIP SimPeg event over at CB &cry2
http://www.city-builders.info/
-catty
Do you think Pegasus would mind if I reserved that URL for posterity?
Maybe just leave a redirect site to let users know where to find the new stuff? I think I could manage something like that with my limited web skills.
Quote from: APSMS on July 26, 2015, 08:04:08 PM
Do you think Pegasus would mind if I reserved that URL for posterity?
Maybe just leave a redirect site to let users know where to find the new stuff? I think I could manage something like that with my limited web skills.
That would be nice :thumbsup:
But there is grace period to allow a website owner to reclaim their dominion name if they change their mind depending on the domain name registrar this can be as short as a couple of weeks or as long as a year and even after that if the website owner is willing to pay a redemption fee along with the domain name's renewal fee they can get their website address back again for a short period after that time.
Ah, I see.
I just tried to check availability, and Pegasus is still the registered domain owner. Address 520 Simpeg Blvd, Fullerton CA (haha, nice one).
At any rate I will probably check back in a few months and see if it's still under reserve. I suppose a PM to Pegasus wouldn't hurt either.
Well there is another option which I hesitate to mention, but Pegasus could be planning on selling the website address there are quite a few companies around that use simpeg as a name including this one
http://www.simpeg.xyz/
which stands for "Simulation and Parameter Estimation in Geophysics"
&mmm
Quote from: APSMS on August 02, 2015, 01:02:49 PM
...At any rate I will probably check back in a few months and see if it's still under reserve. I suppose a PM to Pegasus wouldn't hurt either.
If you are still interested re the simpeg address, this is the process hostgator follows
http://support.hostgator.com/articles/hosting-guide/lets-get-started/domain-names-buy-sell-manage/what-can-i-do-about-redemption
We set up a SimPeg group over at CB for anyone who needed it, but as expected its not being used
http://www.city-builders.info/cb-groups/item/45-simpeg-shelter
If our site software ever allows it then we will merge the contents into the CB Inn
http://www.city-builders.info/cb-groups/item/53-cb-inn
:)