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Title: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on May 21, 2014, 09:53:03 AM
Greetings!

I'm a newbie here. I played SC4 for many years, abandoned it and returned. Now I want to try my luck at BATing. As I can't get through 3DStudio, I model my buildings with sketchup and render them with old gMax. The only inconvenient I've found is that I have to retexture the gmax archives if I reload them, but it doesn't matter at all. I'm only modelling little bats for the moment, tiny houses and shops with 8m-wide facades, and that's the result: 2 R$ houses and 2 R$$, grouped in families.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0009R01_zpsb553e2f3.jpg&hash=7df528df53694f083c783e24c994d580a886a6e3)

They even have lights:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0010R01noche_zpscf57cd73.jpg&hash=74bfaa34c0322799594874d5f9f4919de51bd8cc)

I was very happy with my buildings. I didn't matter the negative shadows at all (I wanted my props to be slope friendly) until I read this terrible post from c.p.:

http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=16509.0 (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=16509.0)

And then my problems started. I wanted the little school building that appears in the middle of the image to be slope friendly and without negative shadows, but this seems to be impossible for me. I don't know if this is the right section to post it, but I need some help.

First I converted RKT1 in RKT4 in PIM-X, tested and everything seemed to work well:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0003creandopropRKT4_zpsa6f804a7.jpg&hash=547f3049b7da3c9d645adcb691edc5ee88de94fd)

Then I modified it with Reader, and set the second model:

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I set my new prop in the lot with PIM-X Lot Editor:

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And tested it in game:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0014creandopropbrownbox_zpse9e916d3.jpg&hash=188c256ae1de9a834af6a99f3c7bce2e115a060f)

A beautiful brown box, if I export the basement model from gMax as foundation

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Or the basement model, with its negative shadow, if I export the model as building.

Any ideas? I would like to have slope friendly props without negative shadows and I don't know what to do now... ()what()

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on May 21, 2014, 12:53:49 PM
A few things:

1. Welcome to SC4D!

2. The BATs are very nice  :thumbsup:

3. I've tried rendering as a foundation or as a building and it worked both ways for me.  So I don't think that is the problem.

4. Is it the "building" or the prop that is giving you the brown box?  All I can suggest is to double-check the TGIs of both prop models, as well as the TGI you used for the invisible building.

5. In your last picture, why is the main building not showing up?  Can you show a screenshot of the prop exemplar for that one (along with the RKT4 values?)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Kergelen on May 22, 2014, 12:50:44 AM
wow, really nice BATs! &apls

I love to see buildings compatible with Mediterranean style. All the models are very interesting.

Hope you can solve your problem and welcome to SC4D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on May 22, 2014, 09:06:03 AM
c.p.: Thank you very much c.p.! I was a bit frustrated with negative shadows until I read your post. But it seems to be a difficult thing for me creating multiple models props.
kergelen: Thank you kergelen! I'm inspired by buildings from Spanish Mediterranean coast and the islands.

I've repeated all the process several times, without any positive result. The brown box seems to be given by the superior model of the prop. I could see the basement through the box when placing it. When only the superior model is present in the RKT4, the prop shows it without any promblems (as you can see on the first pictures I posted). If there are two models, the prop only shows one (or the box).  Here are the pictures showing all the TGI numbers of models, buildings and props used in the lot. I only know the basics about TGI numbers, so i can't see if there are any problems. My computer is running with Windows7, if it matters.

Invisible building model
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School model
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Basement model. First exported as building and second as basement.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0018TGIbasemodel_zps19b3f6b9.jpg&hash=ab7af199a7fff3c2eea539cfdc666006b29c4369)

Prop TGI
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RKT4
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The lot in lot editor, showing the superior part of the prop. I don't know if it's normal this "unknown resource key" message
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0023loteditor_zpsdbe58799.jpg&hash=c62598180f66c094119363ed38a460e94640f18c)

The lot in game
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Thank you very much for your help. I'm sorry if I'm being tedious with my problems.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on May 22, 2014, 09:30:18 AM
First off, welcome to SC4D! Always nice to see someone take up BATting and your models look great! The textures however could use some improvement imho, a little less saturation perhaps. &Thk/(

Anyway, upon seeing you troubles I gave CPs trick a go as well and ran into the exact same issue. Discussion continues in the appropriate thread. (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=16509.0)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on May 22, 2014, 09:38:45 AM
vortext: Thank you very much! Perhaps you're right, and the buildings need less saturation. gMax "burns" the colours when rendering, and I had to experiment a bit with them. If was not sure if posting my issues here was right, so thank you for your advice.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on May 24, 2014, 09:29:10 AM
I followed vortext's advice, and I desaturated the colours a bit. I think the R$ houses look better now. I'm still working on the R$$ houses

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0025desaturado_zpsf17291ca.jpg&hash=bb0526ba39cf230d573e35993d35d84d54d44262)

If you have any other suggestion or critic, please post them!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Girafe on May 24, 2014, 09:45:17 AM
It s a good start but the models lack of details especially relief. The look too boxy 
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: threestooges on May 24, 2014, 10:20:30 AM
You're off to a good start, especially by starting small. It can be easy to feel overwhelmed if a large project is tackled straight out of the gate. I like the style you've chosen to model too, a few more Spanish-style buildings are always a good thing. Good start listening to vortext too, he knows what he's talking about. As for the model itself, are the windows and doors modeled in to the building itself, or are they just applied with textures? From the looks of it, they're textured on. If you model them in to the BAT itself, it would add that much more realism and depth to them. Keep up the good work.
-Matt
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on May 24, 2014, 11:05:15 AM
Quote from: threestooges on May 24, 2014, 10:20:30 AM
Good start listening to vortext too, he knows what he's talking about.

Well, I'm flattered but to be clear: I have none, zero, zilt, nada experience in BATting. That's not to say I can't nor won't tell poor from good quality work but as for practical, nuts and bolts advice . .  $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on May 24, 2014, 01:08:51 PM
In my opinion, the colors/saturation of the R$$ buildings are nearly perfect as they are, but the roof of the School is a little too saturated.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on May 24, 2014, 04:43:17 PM
c.p.: A friend of mine said the same too :P. OK I will desaturate the colour as soon as I can.

vortext: I've seen your road textures... You really have an experienced eye!!! I'm waiting for their release.
Saturation is a problem for me, because turn-of-the-century buildings in my city are always painted with bright colours.

threestooges: Thank you! I model everything I can, even the windows. I don't know why do they look so flat.

girafe: I can see what you mean, Girafe. Well, it's a handicap because the original ones have a boxy structure too, and there's not much to do with it.  :'(

I don't know if I can do something different with the textures or the relief. These are images of the original models I made with sketchup. I don't know what else they need...

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F026casa1_zps728a86bb.jpg&hash=0ea6ff2d4943580ac4e21c4757f0ed2bc2a4c094)

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This is a new house I'm modelling

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I've noticed that roof details get lost when rendering. I don't know if oversizing them (x2) will be useful to avoid the boxy appearance. Perhaps adding some water tanks or chimneys will help...  ()what() What do you think??
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: kelis on May 25, 2014, 04:16:02 AM
Fantastic work !! I can feel the Spanish touch in every picture and I like that. Are you thinking to make more variety ? I think we need more W2W buildings from Spain, we have an amazing architecture and would be really great if we can make some Spanish cities. Keep up the good work and you know it, you got all my support with your projects !!

Saludos compañero y bienvenido  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on May 25, 2014, 04:48:02 AM
The color shift from Sketchup to ingame is quite remarkable indeed. Besides, bright colors are difficult to get right anyway. In that regard you might want to have a look at Wallibuk's (http://community.simtropolis.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_activity&search_app=downloads&mid=450831) work. For instance: 

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.simtropolis.com%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Ddownloads%26amp%3Bmodule%3Ddisplay%26amp%3Bsection%3Dscreenshot%26amp%3Brecord%3D130273%26amp%3Bid%3D29415%26amp%3Bfull%3D1&hash=063e912d45753ceca2d88bb423afc402bb311bf2)

His BATs have a lot of similarities to yours, same turn of the century feel, same smallish w2w models. And if you look at his earlier work it's easy to see the texturing work has improved quite a bit over time. So, keep on tinkering!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on May 25, 2014, 06:46:32 AM
vortext: Perhaps the solution is "getting dirty" with textures. I think I have to work the brick walls too. I don't like to recognize the patterns. I will start photoshopping the first house again and show the result. I don't know if working on the relief will help, but I have to work on the roofs.

kelis: ¡¡Muchas gracias!! And yes, I plan making more residential and commercial buildings in the future. But I have much to learn and these are my first attempts!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on May 26, 2014, 08:35:24 AM
What do you think? I added a water tank and a chimney, and oversized the other roof details. I worked on the textures and the relief (texture change is only visible on the brick walls, but I think the details in the facade look better)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F037casa1_zpsd996dc8c.jpg&hash=317e69a8508475a106c184f599f6b5c2038e5bc0)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F040casa1_zps5f8e9baf.jpg&hash=cfd6947b3b54776e7c9c971a2fa45cf29feadbfa)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F039casa1_zps7de84336.jpg&hash=8af157867666cc7725932ba963831214533e3345)

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This is the original model in sketchup:

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 01, 2014, 04:23:10 PM
Greetings to all!!!
I've been working on the relief and texture of my buildings. I added some chimneys and water tanks trying to avoid the boxy appearance, and this is the result. I see the details more defined, but if you think there's still something I can improve, change, correct or do, please tell me!!!  ::)
Remember that my tolerance to saturated colours is very high, so please tell me about the colour too!!  ;D

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0041casas_zps25957872.jpg&hash=194086fec9bcc1f1fa811d49a1600fa86957a5ca)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0044casas_zps2def518a.jpg&hash=77d9a999825e2f7f2493afb6de5d183868737c06)

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I hope you like them!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: FrankU on June 02, 2014, 02:14:19 AM
Oh yes, I do!
This is becoming a beautiful set. As I am not a BATter I will not go into details. I am stunned already.  :thumbsup:

P.S.: you should rename the thread....
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on June 02, 2014, 04:03:52 AM
Very nice!  &apls

With regard to color: imho the facade of the smallest house (on the left in pic1) is too washed out, too bright. Other than it looks pretty good, I like the roofs in particular. Do you also plan to make mirrored versions?

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on June 02, 2014, 05:04:00 AM
Great work on these buildings  &apls  You had a very nice start and have already improved significantly since then :)

Quote from: romualdillo on May 24, 2014, 04:43:17 PMI've noticed that roof details get lost when rendering. I don't know if oversizing them (x2) will be useful to avoid the boxy appearance. Perhaps adding some water tanks or chimneys will help...  ()what() What do you think??

I think x2 would be too much. Maybe try x1.33 or x1.5 to see if you end up with a better result. Have you considered HD rendering? You'd certainly lose less details that way ;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: FrankU on June 02, 2014, 05:28:12 AM
I think the roof textures and the wall textures are great aas they are now. Very convincing roof tiles and dirty blind brick walls.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on June 02, 2014, 06:26:00 AM
The texturing and colors are much improved... this will be a great set of BATs! 
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 04, 2014, 04:22:22 AM
Thank you all for the nice comments!!!

FrankU and vortext: I changed the colour of the yellow house only a bit to see if it looked better. I think it's OK now and will be the definitive version (finally!) And yes, I plan to do mirror versions of all the models I've made (other colour versions too, maybe).

noahclem I oversized them already, and they did'nt look very bad. I know that most of details get lost while rendering. I've been thinking about HD rendering for some time, but I don't have 3dsMax at the moment. As far as I have worked with the program, I couldn't understand very much about it. It seems to be too complicated for my knowledge and skills. I see that everybody is now rendering in HD or doing HD versions of their models and textures and I would like to do so, but I'm not sure if I can get through that. Perhaps I should download 3dsMax and Bat4Max and make an attempt with the 3ds models from sketchup, but first I have to learn how lights work in 3dsMax. (I fear being too ambitious and get overwhelmed. See FrankU, I still have problems :D)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: FrankU on June 04, 2014, 07:05:03 AM
I must add that I am not in favour of HD. It looks good, sutre, but it takes HD space and CPU time and all...
Maybe I should put one of those SSD's in my computer after all...
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 05, 2014, 08:41:15 AM
My computer said: NO.
I'm sorry to say that 3dsMax runs extremely slow in my computer, so I have to resign and go back to good old Gmax. I didn't want to continue working without testing rendering with 3dsmax, but I don't have the possibility yet. Perhaps I'll try to do it again when I buy a new computer, but for now I'm going to render all the buildings in the old way. I hope to upload  new images soon.

EDIT: Installing Bat4max had an unexpected issue (for me). Now it seems I can do HD rendering in Gmax. I want to know if it is worth doing it. (I still don't know if I really can export in HD or if it's only a preview)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0045casaroja_zps421743a2.jpg&hash=a6c7ef8d415360afe3c0358bba34427262dcc65f)

It looks incredible for me, but as FrankU it takes a lot of space and resources...
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 05, 2014, 04:47:08 PM
Well, this is becoming an endless story... Some aspects of the model didn't convince me, so I changed the textures again. I searched a bit and found this tutorial by BarbyW and gascooker: http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=5230.0 (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=5230.0)

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I think it looks better now. I'll use this tricks even if I finally render SD.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 09, 2014, 11:21:23 AM
This is the progress on the four houses, I hope you like it. I think I'm going to render them HD finally. What do you think?

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on June 09, 2014, 12:24:58 PM
The details really bring the buildings to life - well done! 

The SD/HD debate is an endless one among the SC4 community, so I'll just leave that decision up to you.  One way you could make both parties happy would be to render the models in both HD and SD and let the users decide.

I'm really impressed by how quickly these have improved!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on June 09, 2014, 02:13:49 PM
Really nice work here. Lot of fine details.

One thing I haven't seen on a lot of bats, valley gutters.  :thumbsup:
Have been thinking of doing some myself, but have given up. :P
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: FrankU on June 09, 2014, 10:54:17 PM
You are definitely not the quick and dirty type. They are great!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Kergelen on June 10, 2014, 03:07:55 AM
Great improvements in the textures from the first images :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on June 10, 2014, 03:10:28 AM
These are some fine BATs.. :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 10, 2014, 04:42:35 PM
art128 Thank you! I'm glad you like them!  :)

Kergelen Thanks! I still need a lot of time to change every little detail, but I'm trying...  :-[

FrankU Hahahahaha, well... I found that a bit dirty is OK!  ::)

vester Thank you! About the valley gutter, I didn't know how to solve the roof encounter, and that was the easiest way I found. I'm glad you like them!!

Simcoug Thank you very much!! As we say, the devil is in details... I was thinking to render them both ways, but for the development stage I will use HD, because it helps a lot to improve the textures

And now, day and night view of the first model, I hope you like it (and please tell me if you think there's something I can improve, your comments help me a lot!!)

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: eugenelavery on June 10, 2014, 05:27:48 PM
What part of the world are these buildings from? Seems like they could work in many different settings.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: FrankU on June 11, 2014, 12:18:41 AM
Quote from: romualdillo on June 10, 2014, 04:42:35 PM
FrankU Hahahahaha, well... I found that a bit dirty is OK!  ::)

Your dirt is close to perfection!  :P
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: kelis on June 11, 2014, 03:39:42 AM
I can see how you are improving just looking these two page of your thread  &apls I really like how looks your models, especially for those roof and walls textures, great job mate.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on June 11, 2014, 08:10:58 AM
Good improvements indeed, curious to see them in game!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on June 11, 2014, 11:23:14 AM
Beautiful progress  &apls  They're looking awesome in HD  :o
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 13, 2014, 10:58:37 AM
noahclem Thank you!!

vortext Thanks!! If everything is Ok now, the next update will be an ingame shot.

kelis Thanks!! I searched a lot to find a good texture for the blind walls, perhaps it's not perfect but it's OK.

FrankU Thank you very much!!  ;D

eugenelavery Well, I think these models could work in Mediterranean inspired areas (specially Spanish), Spain, Portugal and Latin America as they're not from a specific site.

And here come day and night shots from the other models!!!

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The next images were done with "neutral" interiors. I don't know which will you like most. I find these better than the others as I found them a bit strange.

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What do you think? The colours seem to be more saturated as they really are because of photoshop issues.

Now, all the models redered in SD to compare...

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I hope you like them!!!   :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on June 13, 2014, 12:29:37 PM
Looking great  &apls  Can't wait to get my hands on these beauties!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on June 13, 2014, 12:40:47 PM
Very nice - I love all the variations and textures.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: juliok102013 on June 13, 2014, 05:28:59 PM
Man, I'm making a latin city and this can be perfect  &apls &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on June 13, 2014, 05:44:56 PM
Keep it rolling  :thumbsup: Love what you shows. &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: DebussyMan on June 13, 2014, 07:32:41 PM
Needless to say, I like them!
My only complaint is the roof texture, it looks too sharp and strong, a little less brightness-contrast my help them be easier on the eye and not distract so much from the facades.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 16, 2014, 09:18:31 AM
DebussyMan Thank you!! I followed your advice and I hope you like the result.

vester Thank you!!

juliok102013 Thank you!! I'm trying them to match styles from different areas.

Simcoug Thank you very much!!

noahclem Thanks!! Perhaps you'll have to wait a little bit, because I want to add more models to the set before trying to release it!!  :-[

Now the in-game shots... I hope everything is OK!!

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And now, it's time to go back to school. I think it looks too bright between all those buildings!!  :D
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on June 16, 2014, 03:15:19 PM
Niiiiice. Looking at the first two pictures , I was thinking maybe ask for some buildings with two floors  ;D
Then the last two  :D
Maybe a 3rd floor as well .



Again what I can I say. Great work you are doing.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 19, 2014, 05:12:38 PM
vester Thank You!!! Well, step by step... Who knows??

And now a little update

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The school new appearance!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on June 20, 2014, 08:47:10 AM
The buildings look great ingame!  &apls

As for the school, the facade is really nice, not too sure about the roof though. Also, isn't it on the small side for a school? By the looks of it, it'd have two classrooms at most.  &Thk/(


Quote from: vester on June 16, 2014, 03:15:19 PM
Maybe a 3rd floor as well

And maybe a 4th floor too, and a 5th, and a 6th . .  and . .  and. . :D
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 20, 2014, 05:51:42 PM
Hi vortext!

Does it look better now?

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And yes, it's a small school with two classrooms only. It pretends to be what we call an "Unitary School" (Escuela Unitaria). This kind of school was used in rural areas (and not so rural) to teach boys and girls of different ages (separated by genders at that time) in only one classroom. The teachers had to prepare the lessons for the different grades present in the classroom (normally from 20 to 30 pupils). Then an inspector came to evaluate the children at the end of the year. The building is based on this other bigger building, which was a normal school.

https://www.google.es/search?q=escuelas+graduadas+de+cartagena&safe=off&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=D9OkU8GmCaab1AX5rIHoCg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg&biw=1297&bih=683#imgdii=_ (https://www.google.es/search?q=escuelas+graduadas+de+cartagena&safe=off&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=D9OkU8GmCaab1AX5rIHoCg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg&biw=1297&bih=683#imgdii=_)

I've tried to mod the building to have a capacity up to 60 pupils, but it doesn't work well, because for a population of 800 it only gets 2 or 3 pupils. I think it's because an association between capacity and demand...
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Bipin on June 21, 2014, 06:23:31 AM
Very nice work. You've got an attractive, cohesive aesthetic going on there!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: FrankU on June 21, 2014, 12:26:37 PM
The school is indeed nice. Also the surrounding wall looks good. But.... (There is always a but) I would do something about those freshly painted white doors in the backyard building! They are way too clean and give too much contrast with the rest.
Will we be able to put props inside the courtyard of the school, meaning: how did you do the LOD of the model? Please give us the opportunity to put props inside!

Great work all in all. And sorry I cannot help you with the capacity thing.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 22, 2014, 05:32:09 PM
Thank you Bipin and FrankU!!!!!

About the school, the LOD is only a shape connecting both boxes, I had no problems by putting props inside:

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btw, I changed the doors' colour.

And as you can see on the image, there's a new addition to the set, I hope you like it (as always if you see something strange or you dislike something, please tell me!!!)

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on June 22, 2014, 07:06:08 PM
I love the new additions - this is going to be a great set when complete  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Kergelen on June 23, 2014, 09:58:08 AM
Nice new model. Remember me some buildings in my hometown.  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 27, 2014, 03:52:05 PM
Thak you very much Simcoug and Kergelen!!!!

I've done a new R$ building. I hope you like it!! I think I'm going to model other 2 or 3 buildings before doing the corner version of each model.

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And here is the building in a row, to compare it with the others (I wanted some colour variation)

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A new building I'm modelling. Nothing new at all...

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Bipin on July 11, 2014, 07:10:56 PM
Lookin' good! Keep up the work, I like that you focus on more unique buildings as opposed to simply skyscrapers and the like.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: isii94 on July 11, 2014, 07:31:33 PM
The buildings look very nice.
They might look even better if you toned the texture a bit down. IMO they're looking a bit too bright in game.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on July 20, 2014, 12:34:36 PM
isii94 Thank you!! I think they look so bright in the last pictures due photoshop: I didn't want to have so many independent pictures and photoshop always alters the colours.

Bipin Thank you!! Yes, I try to give to every building a bit of personality despite their similar structures.

And now, another little house of italian inspiration.

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: bap on July 22, 2014, 02:17:00 PM
Romualdillo, I really appreciate your latin-styled buildings and all effort you are making in providing a lot of variety. The architecture, the mix of colors, the rooftops and the exposed bricks in the back are very realistic details.  &apls  However, I do second the opinion that they might become even more realistic in game if the saturation of the colors are slightly reduced. Making them a bit less colored, more grayish, will provide a good flavour of weather deterioration to them, as if they are not brand new, but were built some years ago. Congratulations and thanks for sharing your work!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on July 22, 2014, 03:42:26 PM
Hi bap!! Thank you for your nice comment!!

Thank you all for your comments and opinions. I thought the colours were correct, but perhaps they're still too bright for the game. (If you could look at the colours in my hometown, you'll understand why I have no eye for those issues). I'll retexture all the buildings, not only the facades but all doors, windows, roofs and other details, and share them again. I hope doing it properly this time, because it's a bit frustrating  ::) to repeat all the process. However, I'm very pleased for your interest in my buildings and I hope to release a good product at the end with all your help (that means that if I have to repeat it again to improve the result, I'll do, beacuse I'm a bit perfectionist).

What I want to know is if the school looks ok, or I have to make it grayer too, because I think it looks dark and gray enough... Perhaps only the roof, I don't know...
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on July 23, 2014, 03:37:17 AM
The latest addition is nice, though the roof texture is a bit repetitive. The subdued colors on the other hand are great! As bap said, I too still think the other houses would benefit from similar desaturated colors as well, in that regard the school actually is pretty decent. Maybe you could post some color examples before re-rendering them all at once. Keep at it!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on July 23, 2014, 04:44:39 AM
Thank you vortext!!! That's what I'm going to do.

This is the first house, I call it "Casa Arcos". The saturation was almost halved, I hope you like it!!!  ;)

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I will post only the south view, unless you ask for the other views if you want to see other details.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: eugenelavery on July 23, 2014, 06:49:18 AM
Are the fronts of the buildings (windows, door, etc) all modeled, or are they textured?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on July 23, 2014, 08:18:24 AM
Since I'm a perfectionist as well I hope you don't mind the nitpicking but it seems to me saturation is only half of the equation as the colors are still too bright imho, the whites especially. Try adding a bit of saturation back in again while simultaneously dialing back the brightness a tad.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on July 23, 2014, 10:09:30 AM
eugenelavery: They're all modelled. Only some little details are textures.

vortext: Definitely I have no eye for colours. I hope training it with time...  :P

Casa Arcos second attempt (Spanish inspiration):

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0086CasaArcos1_zps401b4b4f.jpg&hash=c29670345731e3772c6500a6631abc68e1db2801)

Casa Luis XVI first attempt (Argentinian inspiration):

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0085CasaLuisXVI1_zpsc27093c0.jpg&hash=b621e858895339fea3f139018c7694bc59c3c02f)

I don't know if it must be darkened too.

I hope you like them!!!  ;)

EDIT:

Casa Marchiaro first attempt (Argentinian inspiration, too)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0087CasaMarchiaro1_zpsd8fa3918.jpg&hash=3a89a7f91d2a5d79cf63aebde272a32704072f35)

Casa Quaroni first attempt (Italian inspiration)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0089CasaQuaroni1_zpsf666ca52.jpg&hash=b41ceda2c9603b002bd80dcba0d24ec243630d89)

Casa Ecléctica 01 first attempt (Spanish inspiration)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0090CasaEclectica1_zps5d7ebe87.jpg&hash=b2395ee192468c28d919ed1d8d37d8f034d1f665)

Casa Ecléctica 02 first attempt (Spanish inspiration)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0091CasaEclectica2_zps6ad945e4.jpg&hash=754c6e8f17363af6c497201547754a1addd5503c)

Casa Ecléctica 03 first attempt (Spanish inspiration)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0092CasaEclectica3_zpsea85e77b.jpg&hash=9e14aa1cfb8134f68b81aa0230e117041ebf5935)

Escuela Unitaria 01 first attempt (Spanish inspiration)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0093EscuelaUnitaria1_zpse84171d4.jpg&hash=2e710fc65fb697a4cef8f90dbf5b3b3c15ad3768)

Well, this is the last building I've completed for the moment. I hope you like it!! Please help  :-[

Casa Neorrománica 01 (Neo Romanesque House) first attempt (Spanish inspiration)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0094CasaNeorromanica1_zpse5998561.jpg&hash=d8cef678268b43ec2090b2581def7a52e40d1986)

I hope you like it!!!

Casa Luis XVI corner version first attempt (Argentinian inspiration):

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0095CasaLuisXVIE1_zpsf22cb273.jpg&hash=626e8c45c61947fbff22ce609fd329d35cc288e1)



Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: seraf on August 15, 2014, 05:51:21 AM
I must say your BATs are something fresh :) There are not many buildings of this character in SC4 and I'm sure each of them will be a welcomed addition. The only thing I would advise is a little more depth to the facades. But they look good nonetheless :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: cmdp123789 on August 15, 2014, 06:17:36 AM
OMG! I'm Argentinian, and I'm telling you, those look almost as if they were actually modeled after real buildings. See there are still some buildings, specially in buenos aires that kept the colonial, and are considered part of the European heritage. As you go in deeper into the interior as we call it, those are more common.

But having those would be awesome, specially for creating a colonial era journal...

I tried that at simtropolis, but the lack of buildings made it really hard so I had to abandon it.. But seeing your buildings really inspires me!

Great job!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Swordmaster on August 15, 2014, 12:55:05 PM
Looks great!


Cheers
Willy
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on August 16, 2014, 01:41:20 PM
seraf thank you!! I've tried to add more depth to the buildings by modelling and using contrast, but it is hard to do without using bump or displacement maps. I started to use them, but without any good result, so this is what I can do for the moment!! Consider that I work with gmax and renderings are not so good as 3ds Max ones. My computer is a bit old, and 3ds Max runs veeeeeeeeryyyy slowly. That's why I still use gmax.
I can try to model everything deeper, but I don't know if it will look unrealistic... I'll give it a try and post the result so all can see it.

cmdp123789 Thank you!! Well, the buildings are modelled after real buildings, but I change them a bit so they match different styles from Spain and South America. So they're not copies but a personal version of the  existing buildings. I love Buenos Aires' architecture and I know that the European heritage is very strong. I like the different facades with Italian and French influence you can see on the spanish structure of the "casas chorizo" in Argentina. That's what I try to reproduce here and mix it with other styles.

Swordmaster Thank you!!!

Casa Marchiaro corner version first attempt (Argentinian inspiration):

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0096CasaMarchiaroE1_zpsa694e784.jpg&hash=7f255691511a292f7febdd7181c96b812bed405a)

I hope you like it!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on August 16, 2014, 05:11:45 PM
Like it?  I love it! Keep up the great work.... This is going to be a great set  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on August 17, 2014, 09:37:40 AM
Simcoug Thank you!!!

I've tried to give more depth to the facade, what do you think?

Casa Luis XVI second attempt (Argentinian inspiration):

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0097CasaLuisXVI2_zps13a7eaa0.jpg&hash=5acd31f639c274b3bf062ab6d5058012b407ad2d)

previous version

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0085CasaLuisXVI1_zpsc27093c0.jpg&hash=b621e858895339fea3f139018c7694bc59c3c02f)

Does it look better? I think windows and ornaments look better now...

EDIT:

I darkened the textures a bit...

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0098CasaLuisXVI2_zps737b7f27.jpg&hash=3678ad8c7c520123af17acf3d97413f35f81602a)

What do you think?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on August 18, 2014, 10:22:03 AM
He, I completely missed the previous edit. Lovely new additions!   &apls

The facade could still use some more depth imho, the masonry above the windows in particular. The colors seem okay but the only way to really tell is with an ingame pic.  ;)

Keep at it!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: cmdp123789 on August 18, 2014, 11:00:29 AM
It looks really good, yet I agree with the comment above.. A little bit more of depth would nice...

I'm sure this is going to be a great set, and I will definitely be playing a lot with it! Keep it up! And thank you for the comments about buenos aires.. It is indeed a great city!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on August 18, 2014, 12:53:47 PM
vortext Thank you!!! I'm sorry to say that there is no masonry there. Most of the old buildings in Buenos Aires (and Argentina) are not built in stone but with bricks and a special type of stucco called "Paris Stone". The arches over the windows are single stucco pieces, that's why you can't see the limits between the dowels. (In case you're referring to that)

cmdp123789 Thank you!! I speak about Buenos Aires because it's the city I know best in Argentina. I know that Argentina and its architecture do not end in Capital Federal.

EDIT:

Casa Luis XVI corner version second attempt (Argentinian inspiration):

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0099CasaLuisXVIE1_zpsc6d58c5f.jpg&hash=7a84f8a9cc14dc8baaa345d8690fb560b6caa726)

previous version:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0095CasaLuisXVIE1_zpsf22cb273.jpg&hash=626e8c45c61947fbff22ce609fd329d35cc288e1)

I was afraid of giving more depth to the facades before rendering a lateral view of them, because I thought they could look strange if they were too deep. Now I think perhaps it won't look bad. I'll make a proof and post it to share the result.

EDIT2:

Casa Luis XVI third attempt (Argentinian inspiration): 20% deeper

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0100CasaLuisXVI2_zps29b98ce9.jpg&hash=7ec7a9aeeaf70276eb343451ee2c88cb3cda3e7e)

previous version

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0098CasaLuisXVI2_zps737b7f27.jpg&hash=3678ad8c7c520123af17acf3d97413f35f81602a)

Do you think it is deep enough or should it be deeper? Thank you all for your advices, they help me a lot!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on August 19, 2014, 01:27:56 PM
as far as depth, I think you nailed it with that last version  :thumbsup:

You have quite a collection of models now - I was curious if you were thinking of making a few different color texture variations of each model (a la Aaron Graham (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=12670.msg482843#msg482843)) - I think that would really ramp up the variety  :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on August 20, 2014, 03:41:36 PM
Thank you Simcoug!!! Yes, my intention is making different versions of each building with different colours. I hope you like them all...

Casa Luis XVI corner version third attempt (Argentinian inspiration):

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0101CasaLuisXVIE1_zps5c3bd0e5.jpg&hash=e5103cd15610dd30cb0ac79ff821d6a5c8620b74)

previous version:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0099CasaLuisXVIE1_zpsc6d58c5f.jpg&hash=7a84f8a9cc14dc8baaa345d8690fb560b6caa726)

It's 20% deeper too. I'll render both versions of the house and post the game shots... Let's see what happens...  :-[
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on August 21, 2014, 04:30:12 AM
Great work once again on these lovely buildings of yours  &apls  It seems like you're really figuring out all the details.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on August 21, 2014, 07:07:16 AM
That's great news regarding the color variations.  The latest renders look great - corner buildings are always hard to come by, so these will be a very welcome addition.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Bipin on August 21, 2014, 11:15:47 AM
Lovely work. I like where you're taking this. All your BATs are unique and certainly set apart from the often overdone skyscrapers out there. It's good to see some diversity!  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on August 21, 2014, 04:20:14 PM
noahclem Thank you!! I'm glad you like them!!

Simcoug Thank you!! Let's see how they look in-game.

Bipin Thank you!! I don't like skyscrapers very much. I prefer old buildings and there were not so many low density residential buildings to download, that's why I started batting.

And now the in-game shots:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0102CasaLuisXVI_zpsb0801643.jpg&hash=35a47a4de631308e55d4441b2cf0dc0cd2e045c3)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0103CasaLuisXVI_zpsff9268e9.jpg&hash=73364e18ddef131a9e3d5357981346ba5b59e40f)

What do you think??
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Kergelen on August 22, 2014, 01:28:45 AM
Nice set of models. I really like the roofs and the courtyards.  &apls

Keep it up!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on August 22, 2014, 06:50:07 AM
Looks great!! &apls  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: seraf on August 22, 2014, 03:29:36 PM
You are doing an amazing job :) Don't know why but corner version of Casa Marchiaro particularly caught my attention, it looks so nice :) I think one could actually use it in small colonial town :) And I'm glad too see that not everyone makes skyscrapers now ;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on August 23, 2014, 01:12:10 PM
Kergelen Thank you!!

vortext Thank you!!

seraf Thank you!! Small buildings need so much work as bigger buildings, and they are not as impressive as a skyscraper. But I like sim-scaled cities, and I preferred to start with small buildings.

And now Casa Marchiaro second attempt (Argentinian inspiration)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0104CasaMarchiaro_zpsc6107419.jpg&hash=63b8003ed0df76c9a33ce54482cf841a3f8a1c29)

previous version

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0087CasaMarchiaro1_zpsd8fa3918.jpg&hash=3a89a7f91d2a5d79cf63aebde272a32704072f35)

What do you think? Does the facade need to be deeper?
Title: Can I Request A 1+UP For The ROMeister!?!
Post by: Sim.Rico on August 23, 2014, 05:53:16 PM
 &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls
Romualdillo!  I am a small city small scale bldg FAN!  I love how using the smaller bldgs - keeping everything around it in-scale and perspective , it gives my towns that 'tall bldg' effect without using up so much simreal estate! 

I am going to have to check out all of your work!  I love the one in the screenshots above!  Any quick-links to any of your 1x1, 1x2s etc?  Peyton is screaming for these lovely lots!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on August 25, 2014, 11:17:35 AM
Thank you Sim.Rico!!!!!  :D But I'm sorry to say these are my first bats, and there is nothing available for the moment. I intend to upload them, but there is still a lot of work to do (if I complete the set as I want to).

You will have to wait a bit, I'm sorry!!  &mmm

I made the facade 20% deeper. Do you think it looks better?

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F105CasaMarchiaro_zps55a8f2f9.jpg&hash=222051d8e3e945275300e7284899a32603e102cb)

previous version

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0104CasaMarchiaro_zpsc6107419.jpg&hash=63b8003ed0df76c9a33ce54482cf841a3f8a1c29)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: cmdp123789 on August 25, 2014, 01:06:45 PM
It looks really good! I cant wait for them to be release.. and to be honest, it doesnt look like someone's first BAT! Great job!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on August 25, 2014, 01:08:20 PM
Added depth sure looks like an improvement to me!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on August 27, 2014, 02:10:55 PM
cmdp123789 Thank you!!

vortext I hope you like the final result!!

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F108CasaMarchiaro_zps2aa21b81.jpg&hash=297b63841fd42e2b4123ff5e14df9272f81a2b5c)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F106CasaMarchiaro_zps5ea464ef.jpg&hash=db1867413d706c24b8871f1f34b8e4bf7bb5e3eb)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F107CasaMarchiaro_zps868ebfa9.jpg&hash=8d9030d7ce2db4680f92cd2a13f7089150b1eacd)

I hope you like them!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on August 28, 2014, 01:44:54 AM
Looks awesome  &apls  It's very nice to see these in game. I think they will fit absolutely perfect in my new region where I'm hoping to have areas of "colonial" architecture and the level of details these buildings have will make them much, much, much more useful too :)  If there's one suggestion I'd offer it would be to have a little more space between the street tile and the facade of the building--there's enough space when placed along a street but next to a 3-lane or 4-lane one tile network the area for pedestrians would look really narrow. If your space is limited by the size of the building I'd say not to worry about it though  :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on August 28, 2014, 07:05:12 PM
noahclem Thank you!!! About the space between the street and the building, my intention was to locate buildings in low- and medium-density zones just in the limit of the lot, and buildings in high-density zones two or three meters away. I planned it this way because too wide streets in low density zones could look unrealistic (for me). When heavy traffic roads become necesary in historic cores the sidewalks are normally narrowed (or everything is blowed away and rebuilt, normally with higher density... Fortunately today this procedure is only used rarely and in extreme cases, but it was very common in the 1900's: E.G. Gran Vía in Madrid, Via Laietana in Barcelona, Avenida de Mayo in Buenos Aires or Avenida Central (actually Rio Branco) in Rio de Janeiro). I plan to do some ploppable transition lots (and perhaps ploppable low-density lots with more space), but give me a little more time, because they need special corner buildings.

And now, Casa Arcos third attempt (spanish inspiration)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F109CasaArcos_zps42ff0f48.jpg&hash=cb051705773c4a5e3f64ade16b49f05d245caca2)

previous version:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0086CasaArcos1_zps401b4b4f.jpg&hash=c29670345731e3772c6500a6631abc68e1db2801)

I hope you like it! You can see the oldest version of the building in my previous post.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on August 29, 2014, 09:32:57 AM
Casa Arcos looks great  &apls

Your logic for lotting this with less pedestrian space makes sense--too wide wouldn't fit well with buildings of this height and density I suppose. Looking forward to finding out for myself though  ;D
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on August 29, 2014, 10:36:26 AM
Looking great - Your attention to the details really stand out.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on August 29, 2014, 11:34:35 AM
Really great work. Love your bats.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on August 29, 2014, 02:31:00 PM
noahclem Thank you!! You can still use the w2w lots, because they have enough place to move the buildings. ;D Adapted corner lots will take longer, I'm sorry!!  &mmm

Simcoug Thank you!!

vester Thak you!!

Casa Quaroni second attempt (Italian inspiration)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F110CasaQuaroni_zpscf766db8.jpg&hash=ae25e94a7232e59aaa4ac64feef9ef0057ab628a)

previous version

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0089CasaQuaroni1_zpsf666ca52.jpg&hash=b41ceda2c9603b002bd80dcba0d24ec243630d89)

The depth was doubled. Some ornaments are better defined and I think the windows don't look so flat. What do you think?

EDIT:

Casa Arcos in-game shot:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F111CasaArcos_zpsa7bb8a6c.jpg&hash=da30d5fd0e8cb6d0b2338210dfb1bac675972363)

I hope you like it!! (you can see the first version of Casa Quaroni in the picture too)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on August 30, 2014, 02:51:09 AM
Eventually I found your BAT thread and - wow!  :thumbsup:

I love these small town houses, your attention to detail is outstanding. Not only the facades, in particular the roofs... I am stunned!  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on August 30, 2014, 03:07:29 AM
Yes, the detailing is excellent and it's great you're taking the time to perfect it!  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: seraf on August 31, 2014, 03:39:10 AM
They look even better now :) Would you consider making two storey building with a tower in the corner? It could be a nice type of more prominent building among others :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on September 01, 2014, 11:45:16 AM
carlfatal Thank you!!!

vortext Thank you!!!

seraf Thank you!! Perhaps the next corner versions have a tower or a dome... Who knows...?  ::)

Now, an in-game view of Casa Quaroni:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0112CasaQuaroni_zps0c35fcd0.jpg&hash=fc22c56bd6ceaa4b1713fa1adea74a8fd062ecc9)

And next...

Casa Ecléctica 01 second attempt (spanish inspiration):

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0114CasaEclectica01_zps862cc5b8.jpg&hash=9689fb1e1544369b106596a8ecc5f216fc8425b3)

previous version as usual

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0090CasaEclectica1_zps5d7ebe87.jpg&hash=b2395ee192468c28d919ed1d8d37d8f034d1f665)

And Casa Ecléctica 02 second attempt (spanish inspiration)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0113CasaEclectica02_zps467e747d.jpg&hash=fc933204f3102bcb6efb0f1719d41ff6028cb176)

previous version

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0091CasaEclectica2_zps6ad945e4.jpg&hash=754c6e8f17363af6c497201547754a1addd5503c)

I hope you like them!!!  :P
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: FrankU on September 02, 2014, 04:18:55 AM
Really impressive work!
You are up to a large set, I see.

But I have a question. There seems to be something different in the roof tiles of Casa Quaroni. Is that on purpose?  ()what()
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on September 02, 2014, 05:12:37 AM
Love the Casa eclectica!

Are these bats going to work with dark night?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on September 04, 2014, 09:17:21 PM
Wow, this is some extremely high quality batting. &apls
I like the detailing on the tile roofs, but in my opinion the colors are too contrasty and desaturated (just on the roofs).
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on September 06, 2014, 04:25:03 PM
FrankU: Thank you!!! Yes, the roof tiles of Casa Quaroni are different. The other houses have arabic tiles, but Casa Quaroni has industrial flat tiles. We call them "French", "Marsellaise" or "Alicantina". I thought that an Art Noveau house needed "modern" roof tiles, to match the building style.  :)

noahclem: Thank you!!! I do not know exactly how dark night mod works. I render the buildings with gmax, and it does not have the option. If the mod affects only the blue shape that covers the building at night, it will perhaps work, but I am not sure.  &mmm

c.p.: Thank you!!! And thank you very much for your advices!!! Well, about the roofs, the colour depends on the clay, the cooking and the age of the building. All the tiles loose colour over time, but if you like, I will add other colour tones to the roofs of the next buildings to come!!!  ;D

And now, not strictly an update but something new. Following c.p.'s advices and examples I have been experimenting with basements, heights and LODs, to make my buildings really slope friendly. This is the first result, I'm quite satisfied with it... I hope you like it!!!!  ::)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0115Basement_zpse0a28f0e.jpg&hash=3e8801a2d10e79009ed76ea5523a356e32c69b3a)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0116Basement_zpsc6351e94.jpg&hash=b1bba18d607c44819372d4fb17e267709d14e431)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Sim.Rico on September 06, 2014, 05:12:14 PM
@Rom! I.love the colors in the tile roofing!!!  Csnt wait to have this bldg in one of my USN regional cities!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: danwaxx on September 06, 2014, 05:14:26 PM
Can't wait to download and grow 'em in my cities and regions!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on September 11, 2014, 02:43:11 PM
Sim.Rico & danwaxx: Thank you!!!

In-game shots of both eclectic houses:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0119CasasEclecticas_zps4a2ba87c.jpg&hash=520b6d72a8641223c92905100c50189cef59be88)

Casa Ecléctica 03 second attempt (spanish inspiration):

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0118CasaEclectica03_zpsb37d2669.jpg&hash=ed9b920fa90fbac463d98fee632824b50a14f87d)

previous version:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0092CasaEclectica3_zpsea85e77b.jpg&hash=9e14aa1cfb8134f68b81aa0230e117041ebf5935)

And finally, a night shot (only because I like it)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0117Basement_zpsd0265e8f.jpg&hash=2580113c90c7c33d9c683d553389a9cc0d7b3231)

And that's the progress so far...  ()stsfd()
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: 11241036 on September 11, 2014, 02:55:14 PM
Wow, that's really great! Can't wait to build them in my cities  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: deora on September 12, 2014, 02:44:44 AM
Man,these houses are little beauties.I love the vivid and classic colors,the sweet details and those roof textures.You can actually see every single roof tile.Also the architecture style looks great.
Say,are these houses also covering entire neighborhoods in theyr country of origin?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on September 12, 2014, 09:29:19 AM
The foundations are excellent!  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on September 12, 2014, 01:03:30 PM
Foundations!   &dance
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on September 13, 2014, 06:04:03 PM
11241036: Thank you!!!

deora: Thank you!! And the answer is yes, they still cover entire neighbourhoods in their countries of origin, but I can not say if all are in good conditions. You can see similar buildings in Spain, Argentina, Mexico, Cuba... even in Portugal and Brazil (with some variations).

vortext & Simcoug: Thank you!!! And thanks to c.p. for his master class!!

And now, in game shots of the third eclectic house:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0121CasaEclectica03_zps4eb50574.jpg&hash=c1078130bd6af4db6120c4ea9f49ba96113cf7b3)

And Casa Neorrománica (Neo Romanesque House) second attempt (spanish inspiration, a building in the city of Huelva, Andalusia)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0120CasaNeorromaacutenica01_zpse6600e02.jpg&hash=2ca8f12fc780cf788e716d28a2a2b46b2d103ea9)

previous version:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0094CasaNeorromanica1_zpse5998561.jpg&hash=d8cef678268b43ec2090b2581def7a52e40d1986)

I hope you like them!!!  ;)

EDIT:

In-game shot of the house, final version...  :)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0122CasaNeorromaacutenica01_zps9c07610b.jpg&hash=81b3e64201831aacb90e60f0a440114a716b6ad8)

I hope you like it!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: FrankU on September 17, 2014, 03:50:42 AM
Quote from: romualdillo on September 13, 2014, 06:04:03 PM
I hope you like it!!!

Yes certainly!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on September 17, 2014, 05:38:41 AM
Awesome - they look really great in-game!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Kergelen on September 17, 2014, 07:10:42 AM
You're doing a great job. I love the slope tolerance and the textures &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Dantes on September 21, 2014, 10:16:03 AM
I love your w2w works. Great artworks! (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2F9e380b9b751b4d8c42b8204b8564ef35.gif&hash=ae59dad6877cfc25035b6d85563a572a4783fac9)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on September 23, 2014, 04:04:23 PM
Thank you all for your kind words!!!  ;D

A small update:

Casa Arcos corner version first attempt

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0123CasaArcosE01_zps4751d501.jpg&hash=4aafb3135dd55a859605a9c46d9a6b97b97b7053)

As usual, I hope you like it!!!  :D

I've been thinking about what I'm going to upload (if I'm able to). I've done 8 different models (4 R$ and  4 R$$). I want to do a corner version of each one and the fillers for the corner lots (that's the same building but with a blind back wall). I don't know if someone will be interested in the lots I made for the buildings, because I pretend to upload the props only...  ()what()  I've also other ideas for the models I've already done, but I want to finish this project first.  :P
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: deora on September 24, 2014, 05:24:03 AM
Wow,again some great work you are posting here.
The Slope Tolerance amazes aswell.Also love the crisp textures and the color variations.
The Light Courts are great,they give so much more fresh air and light into the house.
Also your last house looks awesome,too.I`m wondering why it has that small tower in the middle?
I would instantly use these houses if they would fit in my current Region Project because i`m in a terrible need of small two story low rises for one or two families... &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on September 24, 2014, 07:53:22 AM
Wow, things just keep getting better and better over here  :o  The buildings are looking awesome and the slope tolerance is fantastic  &apls

Quotenoahclem: Thank you!!! I do not know exactly how dark night mod works. I render the buildings with gmax, and it does not have the option. If the mod affects only the blue shape that covers the building at night, it will perhaps work, but I am not sure.  &mmm

I know very little about batting but my understanding is that if you're using gmax it will work fine for dark night and regular night.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on September 24, 2014, 09:22:04 AM
You´ve hooked me with these buildings. Sc4 still is installed on my computer, so...  $%Grinno$%

I love that small tower on the corner lot!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on September 25, 2014, 01:23:20 PM
deora: Thank you!! This kind of tower can be used for different purposes: as an observatory, as a pigeon house or as an auxiliary structure to locate the water tanks higher (for water pressure). They are common in some cities of Spain and South America.

noahclem: Thank you!!

carlfatal: Thank you!! Hopefully you won't have to wait very much for the first set of buildings!!  :)

This is the first building I made to fill the corner lots.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0124CasaArcos01d_zps304abd60.jpg&hash=7a16c3fc93a4d21c584a4657235f2cab37a203d4)

I hope you like the colour. I wanted it to be really red, but it's difficult with the unsaturated colours demanded by the game. What do you think??  :-[ If you like the colour the next post will be the in-game shot of the new corner lots I'm working in.

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on September 25, 2014, 05:27:38 PM
Wow this is beautiful work you are doing here. Got me thinking of the work of Mickebear.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Sim.Rico on September 25, 2014, 05:38:07 PM
WOw Romauldillo!  they look so real!  I love this project!  I'll scroll back to catch up on the specs, etc. but looks like my fav "wall to wall"!  whats the lot sizes?  Peyton is grooming land as we speak for these to grace our town's square, etc.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on September 27, 2014, 04:26:11 AM
Looks like you nailed the red! I like it a lot! :thumbsup:

Speaking of lots. . . Are you familiar with the SC4PIM (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=2260)?

If yes, than making lots is really really easy since it's very similar to making props. If not, well, it's really really easy!  :D See here  (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2306.msg68209#msg68209)and here (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2306.msg68221#msg68221).

If you somehow run into serious troubles I could make them for you, though they'd be kept very simple, i.e. two buildings and base textures, no fancy lotting.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on September 28, 2014, 11:28:16 AM
vester: Thank you!!!

Sim.Rico: Thank you!!! The lots sizes are 1x2 and 2x2 for the corner lots, I hope they are useful for you!!!

vortext: Thank you!!! And thank you very much for your offer!! I work with SC4PIM and I make my lots with it, too. I told about not uploading the lots because they are very simple and I was a bit ashamed. I have to work a little more with the lot editor to build the gardens and the empty lots, but I'll need more time to do this.

As promised, the in-game shot:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0125CasaArcos01_zpsc04567eb.jpg&hash=efcde352b2b00e03129845c432cb99fcea9cd771)

Sorry for the interface, I didn't notice it  &ops

I installed Simfox's Day-n-Nite Modd. I wanted to test if the buildings worked well with dark night.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0126DarkNight_zps3db06157.jpg&hash=01cd4a82433b87da1aad3643dd396e122aba1e7b)

Answering noahclem's question: I think they work!!!  ()stsfd() And I think they look even better at night with this mod!!  ;D

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on September 28, 2014, 05:39:20 PM
QuoteAnswering noahclem's question: I think they work!!!  ()stsfd() And I think they look even better at night with this mod!!  ;D

Agreed! Looks awesome man ;)  Hope you enjoy that mod as it's a good one.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: deora on September 29, 2014, 03:19:46 AM
Woah,these houses are drop dead gorgeous.Love the darker red on the facade.Well,if i`m right,you had these houses already shown earlier,but with a much paler red,almost rose.
These look good ,too.Maybe we can pretend that the darker red ones were just freshly painted to cover the aged coat of paint.
Together with the arknite Mod they really look amazing,i actually never tried the Dark Nite Mod,mostly because i`m to lazy to sort out my plugins and replace Buildings with their Darknite Counterpart...
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on September 29, 2014, 03:23:25 PM
It´s funny in a way... Since a long time I am interested in Spanish influenced town planning in America, the special role of towns in the colonies, and the general way to develop them on base of a grid. This fact is very useful, if it comes to SC4 and if you are - like me - a fan of historical town planning.

One reason, why I never gave it a try, was the absence of matching BATs. I have a very few of them, I think, debussyman was the creator, but that´s it. Even if I looked to SCBrasil, I never found really good models of traditional buildings. And now you are doing a complete set - that is amazing, especially, if I look to the outstanding quality!  &apls

And now I am really eager to play with them...  $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on September 30, 2014, 12:50:31 PM
noahclem: Thank you!!! Yes it's a great mod!! It's really an improvement. ;D

deora: Thank you!!! Yes, it's the same model but with some little changes to be w2w in three sides. As I have no eye for the colours, I post the new colours before rendering the models to let you see them and advice me about them (I hope I'm not committing abuse).

carlfatal: Thank you!!! You're right. I never thought about the relation between the SC4 grid and the "Ley de Indias" grid, even when making these buildings, but they seem to match perfectly!!! It's said that the Spanish were so tired of our chaotic Arabic cities, that we only wanted to see straight streets in the new cities.  :D

Now another little update, the filler version of "Casa Luis XVI" with a brand new colour!!!

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0127CasaLuisXVId_zps393efb8b.jpg&hash=1e3430bda4ed07204139060c31109fb998b89b07)

Yes, it's greeeeeeeeen... I hope you like it!!!!! (if not, please tell me which colour would you prefer or what changes should I do)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on September 30, 2014, 04:30:55 PM
Nice pictures again!  :thumbsup:

I think, it was typical for the renaissance to remind the Roman empire. And indeed, as the catholic Spanish crown was "tired" of the Casbahs, in the colonies the style changed into something more "regular". So it was easier to control the indigenes. Everything, from the central place to the cathedral and the offices had a special meaning, was a symbol of the power of the crown and the catholic church.
And it works until today...  $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on October 01, 2014, 02:27:12 AM
Yes, of course you are right!!! The city-planning was used for different purposes as you say: As  symbol of power (like the Roman cities), as a Renaissance Ideal City and as a rational way to divide the space available. Perhaps the difference to other "Ideal" cities in Europe was that the cities in the "Old World" were designed as closed projects and in the "New World" were designed to grow.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: deora on October 01, 2014, 08:10:09 AM
What a lovely new house.Love the fresh green on this one and also the patio grid above the inside yard.
Say,is that a skylight (those little "windows" in roofs to let in more light) in the rear corner of the roof?
About any changes:Well there is really nothing to moan,this house is gorgeous,neat,cute and well done.Maybe a variation without a covered inner yard might be suitable.
However,you did again some lovely work with this little family home. &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: bap on October 02, 2014, 02:20:29 PM
Excellent work, romualdillo!  &apls
The green version of Casa Luis XVI is great. I believe you got the right hand on these BATs. Perhaps you could render an additional yellow and/or beige version of this same house for increased variety with minor effort?

Also, it would be great if you could show us all houses on a picture side by side so we can gauge how does the whole set presently stands in terms of options and variety?  ::)

Have you considered making some accompanying commercial BATs (p.ex., bakery shop, small markets, restaurant, bars, etc) using the same style to complement this nice set of residential BATs?  ;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on October 11, 2014, 12:13:00 PM
deora: Thank you!!! And yes, it's a small covered court.

bap: Thank you!!! Yes, I want to make some commercial buildings after finishing these. And about the picture... Your desires are orders!!!

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0131Casas1_zps833bf829.jpg&hash=9d8c5472b85516457d2b471e8467b3958806af9d)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0132Casas2_zps6cea8eff.jpg&hash=f7fa12f772d48e6b063b8117b81e5deab00ad899)

These are all the R$ buildings and variations I want to do. All the buildings will be rendered in the three showed colours. They will all have a symmetrical version, too. The marked buildings are still not rendered so you can comment on them if there is something you don't like.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Sim.Rico on October 11, 2014, 12:21:25 PM
I cant get over the realistic look of these bldgs!  Do you have any of your prior work like this available for download? I'm gittn greeeedy! lol
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Girafe on October 11, 2014, 01:09:27 PM
nice buildings and good modeling skills :)

but I am afraid about their integration in the game, in term of scale and colors. For sure the roofs are too contrasted.

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on October 11, 2014, 05:06:04 PM
Quote from: Girafe on October 11, 2014, 01:09:27 PM
but I am afraid about their integration in the game, in term of scale and colors. For sure the roofs are too contrasted.

Some of them are a bit saturated.  One that really sticks out is the green one.
The roof on the other hand, I think is just perfect.
Maybe scale up the tile textures a bit, to something like 130-160 % of the current scale.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on October 14, 2014, 03:54:24 AM
Looking great  &apls The time and effort you're putting into these is definitely showing
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on November 07, 2014, 07:09:16 PM
Sim.Rico: Thank you!!! I'm sorry to say these are my first bats. I have some experience with 3d modelling, but I never BATed before!

Girafe: Thank you!! I think you're right. Perhaps they won't match other buildings because of their colour, size and shape, but I couldn't find any other way to reproduce them. I think colour taste depends on the culture and the region. You know that I've had serious difficulties to approach an "international" taste with colour because in my region houses are painted with bright saturated colours and I just can't recognize when a colour is too much saturated for a building.

vester: Thank you!!! About the roof textures, the tiles' size varies between 30 and 40 cm, which is their normal size. I made them bigger once, but they just looked too big for the size of the building (IMHO). About the green building, I hope you prefer this less saturated version.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0133CasaLuisXVId_zpsa4b8c1ae.jpg&hash=b27b25efbfe3480a3d8f874a2c800c12f7c3ae7b)

noahclem: Thank you!!

I've been thinking about this little post of yours:  $%Grinno$%

Quote from: noahclem on August 28, 2014, 01:44:54 AM
Looks awesome  &apls  It's very nice to see these in game. I think they will fit absolutely perfect in my new region where I'm hoping to have areas of "colonial" architecture and the level of details these buildings have will make them much, much, much more useful too :)  If there's one suggestion I'd offer it would be to have a little more space between the street tile and the facade of the building--there's enough space when placed along a street but next to a 3-lane or 4-lane one tile network the area for pedestrians would look really narrow. If your space is limited by the size of the building I'd say not to worry about it though  :)

I think I found a solution. There's a neighbourhood in the city of Valencia called "El Cabanyal". It's a quaint old neighbourhood that is being dilapidated due urbanistical interests. It holds some intersting narrow buildings that I wanted to reproduce (or take them as an example). Perhaps they would look a bit strange to you, but I like them!!!

This is the first one I tried to make:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2FIMG_0059_zpsb5ab325e.jpg&hash=2b0acb11ea111c0d0f6f74186ef6f310bf4ded96)

Original source:

http://bicitarianos.blogspot.com.es/2012_07_01_archive.html (http://bicitarianos.blogspot.com.es/2012_07_01_archive.html)

This kind of building allows me to make wider sidewalks. I made new lots that grow in Houston tileset, the others grow in European tileset.

Wider sidewalks:

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The new building and the transition corner (it's a ploppable landmark lot). Perhaps when I start doing commercial buildings I'll make some ploppables, too.

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I hope you like it!!! The result is obviously different from the original, but I like to change them!!

This is a normal crossing in European tileset:

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A general view, just for show!!

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Please comment and let me know about your opinions!!  ;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: deora on November 08, 2014, 03:53:07 AM
Oh my godness,romualdillo,these houses are beautiful.
Just spended ten minutes on exploring that neighbourhod with Streetview,and these little gems are amazing.All that ornaments and decorative details. :o
Too bad that from time to time an ugly modern concrete 6 story building is disrupting the magical apperance.
I may be wrong,but because these houses are packed in tight rows "butt to butt",there don`t seem to be actual backyards or something like that,right?
Now i know why they often have those little inner courts.
Keep on the good work with all those little pieces of art (btw,love that shown house with it`s green and white tiles mosaic)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on November 08, 2014, 04:02:34 AM
That's a rather clever way to transition to and from different sidewalk widths!  :thumbsup:

The building itself looks good too, though the black-and-white checkerboard pattern has too much contrast imho, especially compared to the other facades. The general view is great however, really shows the outstanding variety! 

Keep at it!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on November 08, 2014, 10:09:24 AM
I have been trying to set my finger on it. The building stand a bit to crisp and sharp.

Try to chamfer the corners. If you use max you can add a edit poly modifier.
In this modifier chamfer the corners/edges. This way you can always go back and remove the modifier if you don't like the result.
When I back at my computer I will post a few pictures on a way where you use the animate to make this dynamic so you can go back and change the settings on a later stage.

EDIT: Here is a little something, sorry about the quality, but its take from a youtube:
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With the editpoly modifier that you see at the top, you get this animate option (mark with red).
Yes it is something to do with animation, but can use to other things as well.
Here is an example of the use of the animate "mode":
Edit Poly Modifier - Modifier Stack 3ds Max - Workshop 02 (http://youtu.be/tKvyv5KmtV8?t=39m5s)
by Paul Fatkins (https://www.youtube.com/user/paulfatkins3987/videos)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on November 08, 2014, 02:25:47 PM
What kind of gem will this set become?  &apls &apls

This transition is clever, together with the narrow street lots it gives some possibilities, and if I look to this ingame pic - this is a massive diversity although everything matches perfectly together. I am absolutely sure, that I will start a rural Mexican region as soon, as your lots will come out.  $%Grinno$%

And thanks for the link to this blog. Particulary I love the houses with mosaic facades.  :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on November 09, 2014, 05:09:54 AM
deora: Thank you!! Lots of neighbourhoods, cities and villages in Spain have the same problem. That's the result of the political corruption that gets worse near the coast. And this neighbourhood is just in front of the beach... And about the inner courts, the traditional Spanish house is built around an inner court, and it's used as another room of the house. They exist even in country houses without space problems. The climate and the Mediterranean tradition have developed this kind of architecture.

vortext: Thank you!! You're too kind!! These are the new and the old versions together... I think it looks better now...

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vester: Thank you for your advice!! But I don't know what corners are you referring to. I have no problems to chamfer any corner you want, but tell me first what should I change to improve the buildings.  ;)

carlfatal: Thank you!!! Let's see how does it end!!!

EDIT:

Following a friend's advice I changed the colour again:

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on November 11, 2014, 12:22:37 PM
Quote from: romualdillo on November 09, 2014, 05:09:54 AM
vester: Thank your for your advice!! But I don't know what corners are you referring to. I have no problems to chamfer any corner you want, but tell me first what should I change to improve the buildings.  ;)

If you go around to take a look on real life buildings, there are hardly any totally sharp cornes (except some of the newst materials and to some degrees metals).
Lets taken plaster you can make it real hard 90 deegrees corner, there will always be a small radius of at least 3-5 mm.
Now you probaly say you can't see that, but you can.
Not the detail itself, but the "softness" of the corners.
Found out myself the chamfer will do the trick for me.

Here is few of these lines/edges:
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Haven't gone over all of the bats, but hope you get the idea.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on November 11, 2014, 03:30:59 PM
Now I understand what you mean!!  :P  I never thought that such level of detail would be visible, but if you say that it makes a difference, I'll try it! Do you think that mosaic tiles should be chamfered too? (e.g. the green house of the picture) I think they have normally sharp corners. Thank you very much for your help!!!  ;D
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on November 11, 2014, 04:08:58 PM
About mosaic tiles as I said about the roof tiles: Make the scaling bigger.
I know it the roof tiles are to scale, but I tend to make the scaling bigger to fit with the game and not
At least give it a try to see what it will do.
All my brick textures is like scale to 250-300 pro cent.
It give a more carm result and you can see it IS bricks.
At the moment the mosaic tiles is a bit of a blur.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on November 11, 2014, 05:26:02 PM
OK  :thumbsup:. I'll do a new version of one of the houses, with bigger bricks and roof tiles to see the effect.  ::)

Presumably (I hope I've chosen the right expression)  you'll be right, and it will look much better. I have to say that I was a bit reticent to change the roof tiles, because I modelled them row by row and I don't find very likeable to repeat all them again.  :P

It's incredible to see the repercussion of this project and how you all want to make the best of it. I want to thank you all for your help and for the time you've taken to help me with it. Thank you very much!!!  &apls

EDIT:

Let's see the final result:

Previous version:

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New version:

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I chamfered all the exterior corners (plaster 5mm and stone 2mm), oversized the different patterns (mosaics 150%, roof and bricks 130%) and added interior textures for the nightlights. What do you think?

I changed some things again:

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In-game views:

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I hope you like the changes!!! Please comment anything you dislike!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on November 17, 2014, 07:58:10 AM
How did I miss that you posted :P
5 days and not seeing it.

Love the new UV mapping. The textures shows up so much better now.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on November 17, 2014, 09:00:12 AM
Wow, what an amazing level of detail. :o  The new, larger roof tiles are much better, in my opinion. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on November 17, 2014, 09:55:37 AM
I also agree the exaggerated roof tiles are an improvement.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on November 17, 2014, 10:08:56 AM
Third-ed! Upscaled roof, walls & mosaic look great!

Quote from: vester on November 17, 2014, 07:58:10 AM
How did I miss that you posted :P
5 days and not seeing it.

That's probably because text was posted first and pictures were added in later, or so I've noticed more than once. Sneaky romualdillo.  $%Grinno$%

Anyway, the tip about chamfers has paid off indeed. Though frankly I didn't notice any particular issue with the corners before, it looks a lot better now, much easier on the eyes somehow!  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on November 17, 2014, 10:51:39 AM
Quote from: vortext on November 17, 2014, 10:08:56 AM
That's probably because text was posted first and pictures were added in later, or so I've noticed more than once. Sneaky romualdillo.  $%Grinno$%

Next time, if more than ~30 mins has gone by, make a new post for the pictures. It is allowed to double post, when you bring something new to the table.
... and you did with the edit.

I have done quintuple in one of my threads.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on November 17, 2014, 11:31:33 AM
Like said you really should make a double post in such a case. I mean, it is always a pleasure to look into your thread, and I also missed the last update!  $%Grinno$%

I must admit, that I never thought about texturing problems, but indeed the roofs now - the whole buildings look better with overscaled roof tiles. Seems to be the same like with bricks, some optical illusion. Also the more bright version looks better. Wonderful!  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on November 17, 2014, 12:03:43 PM
Quote from: romualdillo on November 11, 2014, 05:26:02 PM
I have to say that I was a bit reticent to change the roof tiles, because I modelled them row by row and I don't find very likeable to repeat all them again.  :P

What I would do in such a case, render the tiles into a normal map using the function Render to texture (press 0 (zero) to open the dialog box). Some call that proces "Baking Normal Maps (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFSXtjFI9ig)".
Then apply the normal to a plain roof surface with the diffuse map.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on November 17, 2014, 01:48:21 PM
Thank you all for your comments!!!

Well, I think it's time to start doing double posting.  ::) I wasn't sure if I could do it, that's why I've always used the edit...  ;)

Quote from: vester on November 17, 2014, 12:03:43 PM
What I would do in such a case, render the tiles into a normal map using the function Render to texture (press 0 (zero) to open the dialog box). Some call that proces "Baking Normal Maps (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFSXtjFI9ig)".
Then apply the normal to a plain roof surface with the diffuse map.

I didn't know that function (as many others), but I've always had problems with bump and displacement maps obtaining weird results. I don't texture in gmax but in sketchup, so sometimes I have some problems by rendering. Anyway, thank you for your advice!!!  ;D

About the nightlights, do you know any texture I can use? I think they look better with the texture I used, but if you know better ones, I won't have any problem using them. I wasn't convinced with the plain one.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on November 17, 2014, 02:23:07 PM
Sorry, thought you was using Max not gmax/blender.
Forget it then. Pretty sure it isn't in gmax.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: kelis on November 18, 2014, 05:50:28 AM
You will put Spain on the map with those models, they are really nice my friend !!

Enorabuena una vez más, las texturas son una pasada  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on November 20, 2014, 03:37:24 PM
vester: Thank you for your advice anyway!!

kelis: Thank you!!! But I'm not the only one doing Spanish BATs...  ::)  ¡¡¡Muchas gracias!!! Viendo ahora las primeras texturas casi me avergüenzo de pensar que estaban bien.  :-[

Now a small update: The same building in different colours. Next to come: Corner buildings.

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Vizoria on November 20, 2014, 05:16:35 PM
Really impressive stuff. Those roof tiles are great.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on November 20, 2014, 06:03:45 PM
Looking great!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on November 20, 2014, 09:49:50 PM
This is going to be a great set.  :thumbsup: The color variations look really good to me.  Also, I like that the buildings are a couple of different widths.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on November 24, 2014, 12:56:09 PM
Vizoria, Simcoug, c.p.: Thank you all for your comments!!!!

New corner version of Casa Arcos:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0154CasaArcos01E_zpse4403a5a.jpg&hash=bd6da6864884a9d1742a06a2d53febfd6d8eb3ca)

I hope you like it!!! Next to come: colour variations.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on November 24, 2014, 01:58:51 PM
The doors looks a bit tall. Maybe add some steps to it.
Not sure, but I think they should go into the foundations.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on November 24, 2014, 04:41:31 PM
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0155CasaArcos01E_zps60deaeeb.jpg&hash=2285d2bb7459b8742b38c1c4d40baed9f4bf2626)

This is the complete model, without being separated in two different LOD boxes (house and foundation). The house's LOD is bigger than the building, to prevent it from looking half buried. c.p. told me about that, and I think it's the best working method.

The doors of these houses may be really tall, especially when the interior floor is higher than the street level. Here you have an example (yes, it's the original Marchiaro building). Here you can see that the door's size is taller than 3,5 meters. (plus the window over it)

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source: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=400186 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=400186)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: frukox on November 24, 2014, 08:37:55 PM
I really loved how you built the roof. So neat! Keep up the good work, dude!  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on November 24, 2014, 09:56:13 PM
The corner building turned out great.  :thumbsup: The door does look slightly little odd to me, but should work better on a steep slope than a shorter door would.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on November 25, 2014, 05:43:18 AM
Ahh there was a reason.


Sometimes the size of things on computer can look messed up, specially if you compares bats.
Like the way you done the stairs on the outside.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on November 25, 2014, 08:13:50 AM
The foundations are really nice, good work. :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on November 25, 2014, 08:34:04 AM
Thank you all for your comments!!!

I don't know if I'm doing the best representation of this type of house. Normally they have very high ceilings (4,5 to 5 meters) (15-17 feet), so all the elements look very tall. The doors look even taller if the interior floor is higher than the street level. There can be shops between the floor and the street level, too. I play with this height to hide the stairs on small slopes and to avoid that the building gets buried by the slope on bigger ones. It works OK for me, but if you see something that has to be changed, please tell me!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on November 25, 2014, 11:23:58 AM
Great work again - the foundations are top notch! 
I actually like those tall doors - I think they compliment the style of buildings and they look quite elegant.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on November 29, 2014, 06:05:04 AM
Thank you Simcoug!!!

I think this is going more slowly than I thought, but here's the progress:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0156CasaArcos01A_zpsaf0d7b0d.jpg&hash=8539402759fc836461650d64487ef87a67e34f9b)

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Next to come: The blind back wall variation... Step by step
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on November 29, 2014, 10:44:30 AM
I like the color variations :thumbsup:
The overall quality of this, with all the intricate details, the excellent texturing, the slope handling, etc, is really impressive.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on November 30, 2014, 03:09:11 AM
Your progress is looking excellent  &apls  I can't say enough good things about those foundations and the slope tolerance :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on November 30, 2014, 04:03:40 AM
Yep yep yep, my sentiments exactly. The houses are fantastic,the foundations are icing on the cake!  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on November 30, 2014, 03:03:05 PM
Romualdillo has shown a great variety of creations in his thread while gaining more knowledge of the BAT. Come see what surprises he has for us during the month of December in the OSITM!

On behalf of the SC4Devotion Of Special Interest This Month Committee, congratulations!

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on December 01, 2014, 12:31:33 AM
Congratulations Romualdillo  &apls  This is a very well-deserved honor!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 01, 2014, 03:14:31 AM
Thank you very much!!! It's a great honour!! I feel really overwhelmed, and I'll try to do my best during this month.

As OSITM first update I want to share with you a little building I started long time ago. It's based (or copied, or inspired, or whatever...) on a building in Viareggio, Italy: a little CS$$$ bookstore. It still has all the problems of my older buildings: colour saturation, depth, roof texture... But it's a sample of the commercial buildings I want to add to the set in the future.

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I hope you like it!!! Be patient, it's not finished at all!!  ;D
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on December 01, 2014, 04:21:14 AM
Wonderfull work as always. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on December 01, 2014, 04:50:50 AM
Very nice  &apls  It's neat to see a different style from you and this one seems really unique. It could fit in very nicely in Arabic style city as well.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on December 01, 2014, 09:31:45 AM
Congratulations on being OSITM! Well deserved indeed!  &apls

The shop facade is very nice, I like that kind of art deco-ish design a lot!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Vizoria on December 01, 2014, 09:54:16 AM
These Italian/foreign (I'm not sure whether they're from South America or the Mediterranean) BATs are amazing.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 02, 2014, 07:53:54 AM
vester: Thank you!!

noahclem: Thank you!! Well, there are some buildings in Alexandria, Cairo or Beirut that I would like to do. This Italian style was very popular in the Eastern Mediterranean countries.

vortext: Thank you!!! Let's see how it looks next!!  ;)

Vizoria: Thanks!! I try to mix all these different styles, because they have lot of things in common. The Mediterranean culture was taken to South America and developed there in its own way.

Now, as promised:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0159CasaArcos01d_zps45e0816b.jpg&hash=0014aee54d7fdd0e29787f3d8b10a618bc2e97d5)

Next to come: colour variations, as always...  :P
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on December 02, 2014, 08:44:42 AM
The CS$$$ bookstore is really nice! As is the latest building... :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Kergelen on December 02, 2014, 11:44:31 AM
Congratulations on the OSITM &apls

Nice Italian style comercial building.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: kelis on December 02, 2014, 02:39:27 PM
Congratulations for the OSITM, You really deserve it !!

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on December 02, 2014, 05:47:58 PM
First congrats for the well deserved OSITM.  &apls

The foundations, like Eric said, they are icing on the cake. So it will be much easier to build with them using the given shape of the terrain.  :thumbsup:

The Italian house is a real beauty. The window on the upper floor is only wow, - there I would like to live in the room behind.

Keep on the fantastic work!  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 03, 2014, 07:36:37 AM
Thank you all!!!

First colour variation:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0160CasaArcos01dA01_zps65db10ee.jpg&hash=40e1b3d13b0095131485a52f5d1b96de126161c3)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on December 03, 2014, 08:27:54 AM
I seriously love how the buildings bend nicely in sloppy areas. Not a lot of BATers are doing this kind of thing but it's nice thing to have. Good work. :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 04, 2014, 09:33:11 AM
Thank you art128!!!  ;)

Second colour variation:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0161CasaArcos01DA02_zps54fd18ae.jpg&hash=bd94bf9a69626db92fbd7857cb0de70dc2aa8b8c)

And this is for slope lovers  $%Grinno$%:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0162CasaPendiente_zps316e92df.jpg&hash=0621450467ae57dfacc6bc59101a13e30ac36d14)

Some shadows are odd, but there's nothing to do about them.  &mmm
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Vizoria on December 04, 2014, 09:55:09 AM
Great work with slope tolerance!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on December 04, 2014, 10:26:00 AM
Loving the color variations!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on December 04, 2014, 10:37:09 AM
The one with black and white pattern, try to make the pattern bigger. Its still fuzzy to look at.


Love all your stairs and all the details you added to the back side.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Dantes on December 04, 2014, 03:17:17 PM
The rear of the building like it very much. I imagine vegetable gardens and small poultry. Great! (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2Fec5f2347c641efcb7e30adfc88c7e5d4.gif&hash=2b64c5b16b75a7325c389d8433be6d51c4770c55)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on December 04, 2014, 11:05:20 PM
Nice patios :thumbsup: The color variation are looking good.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on December 05, 2014, 09:50:12 AM
I agree with vester about the size of the black and white tiled walls.

The patios with the stairs, the whole foundation thingie looks awesome! And the color variations are nice. It looks like you would play with hundreds of different buildings, a very versatile puzzle.  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 05, 2014, 05:06:55 PM
Thank you all!!!!

About the black (green) and white tiled house: Be patient!! :P  I still have to change textures in all the other 72 buildings. They're older and they come first!! Think that every building has 2 models (main building and basement), so I have to render all the 144 models again!!  ;)

Now the new aspect of Casa Luis XVI (W2W version with backyard), I hope you like it!!

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0163CasaLuisXVI_zpsea3ffec7.jpg&hash=0961a6eb92fb693c3ac236023b54f0c6770c169d)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0164CasaLuisXVI_zps6e6253ec.jpg&hash=72a5d1a6a76d9f6248f00d7816dde9275ffb133f)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 06, 2014, 05:21:18 PM
First colour variation (as always)  ::):

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0165CasaLuisXVIA01_zps999ac68d.jpg&hash=31d81c7ea1740f234e917f37520368c821d8d0c2)

I hope you like it!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on December 07, 2014, 09:49:08 AM
Looks good. :thumbsup:  I definitely like the larger roof tiles better.

By the way, congratulations for the OSITM &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on December 07, 2014, 10:28:23 AM
Great work, romualdillo!

Have to agree with CP on the roof tiles. So much better.  :thumbsup:

Maybe change the colors of the support of what I guess is water tanks on the roof.
The reddish color kind of blend in with the roof.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 07, 2014, 02:43:18 PM
Thank you both very much!!!!!

Second colour variation: The green one, I hope you like the colour!!!

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0166CasaLuisXVIA02_zpse8d99fc2.jpg&hash=99b8c09daed4051449686a092e7d73a451b58dd3)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on December 08, 2014, 02:21:32 AM
I love the green color variation. It blends nicely with the roof texture. Great work so far in your OSITM. :)


200 posts, congrats.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 08, 2014, 11:18:00 AM
Thank you art128!!!

To celebrate the 200 posts  :P I want to do something different... (That I couldn't finish a new building for today has nothing to do with it  ::))

A streetlight. It's still in process. I've done it during rendering time.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0169Farola1_zps8e345e42.jpg&hash=35b4e0eba86e179dd41bb786db8e3bcbb1d11953)

I made some changes, because the default textures annoyed me:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0170Vista_zpsfb72768f.jpg&hash=db8f341e7c87cffa17b0fc21891868c4506cb35c)

The sidewalks textures are from Gobias, and the road textures are from a guy whose name I can't remember.  $%Grinno$%
I'm still thinking about doing my own street mod or not, because placing all the street props on the lots gives me more flexibility.
Anyway, I have to take out all the maxis props, but I haven't found the mod for it.

About the lots, I think I'm going to release the simple version, with default maxis textures to let you do anything you want with them. I'll do others matching my purposes later.

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on December 08, 2014, 11:31:18 AM
I think that street light will end up looking very cool  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on December 08, 2014, 12:00:16 PM
Quote from: romualdillo on December 08, 2014, 11:18:00 AM

About the lots, I think I'm going to release the simple version, with default maxis textures to let you do anything you want with them. I'll do others matching my purposes later.



That's a good idea! That way a sidewalk replacement mod will work. :)

Loving the street lamp so far.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on December 08, 2014, 04:02:31 PM
Quote from: romualdillo on December 05, 2014, 05:06:55 PMBe patient!! :P  I still have to change textures in all the other 72 buildings. They're older and they come first!! Think that every building has 2 models (main building and basement), so I have to render all the 144 models again!!  ;)


For sure we will be patient. If someone ist such a nut guy, we have to...  :D
In RL every company chief would look at your models and say: "well done, it´s finished and this new game will be worth 40 Euros", but we here, looking at your work done for only the plaesure to do it, we offer our critics to details, any normal user wouldn´t see. And then we take it and say, well here and there could be some improvement.  $%Grinno$%

So I would kindly ask you to be patient with us.  ;)

Again wonderful pictures, can´t say anything else. The new street light looks nice, and the street mod looks amazing. The name of the one who did the road textures? Eric?....  :P
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Vizoria on December 09, 2014, 09:56:16 AM
What impressive detail for such small buildings. Also the slope friendly is very good as well. Keep it up!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on December 09, 2014, 01:41:19 PM
Quote from: romualdillo on December 05, 2014, 05:06:55 PM
I still have to change textures in all the other 72 buildings. They're older and they come first!! Think that every building has 2 models (main building and basement), so I have to render all the 144 models again!!  ;)

144 models, that is BIG project. For you own sake and so you don't run tired with this.
Spilt them up in smaller releases.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 10, 2014, 03:47:10 PM
Simcoug: Thank you!!

art128: Thank you!! I'll probably take out the overlay textures and change them for base textures, so they work with replacement mods.

carlfatal: Thank you!! Eric...?  :P I don't know who is that guy...  $%Grinno$% (Thanks Eric). I know that you make your critics for my best... and yes, you should be very patient with me!!!  :D

Vizoria: Thank you!!!

vester: Yes, it has become a BIG project. I've thought about dividing it in different releases. Perhaps, when the first R$ (8m wide) are finished I'll release them. Then the 5,3m wide, and finally the R$$. What do you think?

Now the corner version of Casa Luis XVI. I'm sorry I couldn't show it yesterday, but it needed a lot of work.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0171CasaLuisXVIe_zps9e1f23ce.jpg&hash=ed5361dea02a8b3409a6b8bc85e2c75db2e5f687)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0172CasaLuisXVIe_zpsd31271a8.jpg&hash=0b7a4ca106dd035dbcb4f6047c1edc4023d23827)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0173CasaLuisXVIe_zps19f80077.jpg&hash=b9cd09d4ea326fa265a698d00da593c19e25cb4a)

I hope you like it!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 11, 2014, 05:29:20 PM
First colour variation...

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0174CasaLuisXVIeA01_zps839f3ff4.jpg&hash=2f1975bea76dd5cafd63076bb1682239e10dd72e)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0175CasaLuisXVIeA01_zps09b0ffc7.jpg&hash=6985ed0e8469d7d65eec7bd1e74688b3a02236d6)

I really hate the traffic lights now...  &sly
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on December 11, 2014, 06:19:14 PM
I like the grey color  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on December 11, 2014, 10:32:18 PM
Looking good :thumbsup:   The corner building really helps the W2W block look natural/realistic.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on December 12, 2014, 07:18:13 AM
Quote from: romualdillo on December 10, 2014, 03:47:10 PM
vester: Yes, it has become a BIG project. I've thought about dividing it in different releases. Perhaps, when the first R$ (8m wide) are finished I'll release them. Then the 5,3m wide, and finally the R$$. What do you think?

Sound like a good plan.


Great update. Love the cut-off corners. (the 45 degrees).
We have them on most corners in Copenhagen. My sitting room has window in one.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 12, 2014, 03:37:42 PM
Simcoug: Thank you!!

c.p.: You're right!! I don't regret making them.

vester: Thank you!!! Here in Spain they are common, too. You can find the best example in Barcelona, where the corners are huge, and make the city look totally different to others.

The other colour variation:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0176CasaLuisXVIeA02_zps1abfd6c7.jpg&hash=06ce82659c4cae4b4e7eb0f507bf000f0046cdaf)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0177CasaLuisXVIeA02_zps9bc41225.jpg&hash=94eccb6a7169a4497e83e3d29e1c68d7610c68f4)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0178CasaLuisXVIeA02_zps85140692.jpg&hash=9f598484ea124ae7b4e753cdeb8e7f74033167d4)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0179CasaLuisXVIeA02_zpsc625af90.jpg&hash=f7125e1b8d4b11f824e16f5a9f005c4a6ff6de9e)

I hope you like them. Have I ever told you about how much I hate the traffic lights now??  :P
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 14, 2014, 03:57:30 PM
New aspect of the w2w without backyard version. Different colour versions will come next.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0180CasaLuisXVId_zps0c70e95c.jpg&hash=c3cb09aea37005c420f7436c7e0a7b9da60414f7)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0181CasaLuisXVId_zpseb76941a.jpg&hash=dca8b747b2b96695a9296227c08f6759b0f28a79)

I hope you like it!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on December 15, 2014, 02:16:24 AM
Incredible work here--the buildings look just beautiful  &apls  They match those roads perfectly and the slopes look amazing. Are you missing some night lights in that last picture though? For the stoplights you could try Mandelsoft's stoplight replacement mod over on the STEX--or try to create you're own if you're feeling more ambitious  :thumbsup: 
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 15, 2014, 02:26:50 PM
noahclem: Thank you!!! Missing lights? Not really... some houses have only few lit windows, others have more. It depends on the houses present on the picture.

And now, the first colour variation:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0182CasaLuisXVIdA01_zps3dcc30c8.jpg&hash=57628b167a3d314ef71d3036096028d6be0dcac3)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0183CasaLuisXVIdA01_zpsbaa65b05.jpg&hash=50a26d2577b2254f0747f8e1b8ae8e6291af38e4)

I hope you like it!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Kergelen on December 16, 2014, 10:55:23 AM
Indeed, I love it!!  &apls

Your building collection fits perfectly with vortext textures.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on December 16, 2014, 03:18:21 PM
Quote from: Kergelen on December 16, 2014, 10:55:23 AM
Indeed, I love it!!  &apls

Your building collection fits perfectly with vortext textures.

I wonder if the expression "vortextures" would catch on :D  Love the color variation and the light idea makes sense  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 16, 2014, 05:06:01 PM
Kergelen: Thank you!!

noahclem: I like "vortextures", perhaps we should name them so.  :D

And now, last colour variation:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0184CasaLuisXVIdA02_zps82734804.jpg&hash=a3b8c4169e21f97195a318f50a9488094986f9f9)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0185CasaLuisXVIdA02_zpsa4a18166.jpg&hash=aab33dadb25a92c6db3f75b82b38890a14a63b45)

Next to come, Casa Marchiaro. Let's see how does it look.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on December 17, 2014, 01:57:57 PM
Still looking great!   &apls


Quote from: romualdillo on December 16, 2014, 05:06:01 PM
noahclem: I like "vortextures", perhaps we should name them so.  :D

The author already beat you to it  :D
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82314303/Photos/Misc%20Photos/Vortexturesfunny.jpg)

The lawyers are going over the copyright details as we speak...
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 17, 2014, 03:57:54 PM
For the lawyers: I have to declare that I have the author's permission to use and share his textures.  :D

Vortextures TM is a division of Vortext Enterprises.

As the Casa Marchiaro needs more time, I want to show you another house project (5,3m facade)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0187CasaValenciana_zps9a4fd043.jpg&hash=08db719e4cc8326ab6ab80a3853bffbeac29c942)

Credits to: Constructora Romualdillo S.L.

I hope you like it!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 20, 2014, 09:04:55 AM
Finally Casa Marchiaro new aspect:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0188CasaMarchiaro_zpsb72d6c8c.jpg&hash=5debca07ac173f21c1d84f4e276053bf3c732777)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0189CasaMarchiaro_zpsf88237f6.jpg&hash=bf8ad34062484730a689c0ad18fa0d5856ecd7c9)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0190CasaMarchiaro_zps6b7d1be0.jpg&hash=b0a9355aa218711567d879e339267ca6d423adcf)

The colour variations will come next!! I hope you like it!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on December 20, 2014, 09:08:18 AM
 %%Order?/ All court cases dismissed on grounds of hilarity.  :D

Great job with all the color variations!  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 21, 2014, 06:19:03 PM
vortext: Thank you!!

First colour variation, as always:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0191CasaMarchiaro_zpse45065cd.jpg&hash=3638d506f765c20f68fb35730c507e809ae1f253)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on December 21, 2014, 11:53:39 PM
The recent several updates look really nice :thumbsup:  This last one seems just a touch on the bright side (the blue and white wall), compared to the orange one next to it, though I would definitely use it as is.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on December 22, 2014, 07:55:49 AM
Promising new project! I love the color variations and the overall look of everything  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on December 22, 2014, 08:11:38 AM
You just keep them coming  :thumbsup:


&apls &apls &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on December 22, 2014, 08:38:33 AM
Unbelievable!
All time I am looking here, new variations and improvements come up to amaze me.  &apls &apls

Eric is the one, who did made the vortextures...  $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Dantes on December 22, 2014, 08:57:41 AM
Great performance! I'm getting more excited to see how the first district look complete with a tram, squares with Restarants and a small market (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2F23163e55959555665d89bb1b00a869fc.gif&hash=efd71d5da052410db02d23b2b1278b9817c36e66)

All the best to you
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 22, 2014, 11:44:55 AM
Thank you all!!!

Today is the day of frustration:

I was unsatisfied with the house's stone basement, so I gave it more contrast:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0192CasaMarchiaro_zps3450a6a4.jpg&hash=e1e64d2f72dfde082b79e7a7518a9454075c6e84)

Compare to the orange version to see the difference. (I think it still needs more contrast). I would have left it as it is if I didn't find the issue marked  in red. A little face was lost in all the models, that's why it looks white. As I am a perfectionist and I have seen the fail, I have to change it again. A lost day...  :angrymore: grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 23, 2014, 01:05:04 PM
Finally, they're done:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0193CasaMarchiaro_zpsf958a074.jpg&hash=2deb4f8163075557fe7f09a7e57e475524e849a7)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0194CasaMarchiaro_zpsd3a023c4.jpg&hash=f7b07dcdf5f2dbab31ad829a0021c8f91ec09c46)

Next, the orange one.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 24, 2014, 06:26:19 AM
Last colour:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0195CasaMarchiaro_zps109dbc7c.jpg&hash=780919073dd6903ee2bc2be6c727e4727c36583a)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0196CasaMarchiaro_zps35221d91.jpg&hash=c0c7da382fa68f5815c2d6c558a04df44ebdba81)

I wish you all a very Merry Christmas!!! :party:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on December 24, 2014, 08:16:31 AM
Merry Christmas to you too. Another superb color variation. :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 25, 2014, 10:01:37 AM
Merry Christmas to all!!  :bnn:

As the corner version of Casa Marchiaro is not finished, I want to share with you the last of my projects in process. It's my biggest project so far, and it's going veeery slowly.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0197BetiJai_zps749afd62.jpg&hash=2f65f50512956be189777b2128237972eaf4079f)

It's the Beti-Jai fronton in Madrid. It's one of the oldest standing sport facilities in the world (if not the oldest). It was built in 1893, and it's now abandoned. The fronton (jai-alai) is a basque sport, which was the most popular sport in Spain before football (soccer) arrived.

Here's an old image of the Beti-Jai:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F24420705.jpg&hash=5e6d468758d8773a0abf220972a2d0c94958d120)

You can find new images here (http://www.panoramio.com/user/3431267) in Panoramio.

Wikipedia article (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front%C3%B3n_Beti_Jai) in Spanish
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on December 26, 2014, 02:09:01 AM
Lovely color variation and a very exciting new project! Merry Christmas  :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: benedict on December 26, 2014, 09:44:49 AM
Amazing work. Congratulations on being OSITM.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on December 26, 2014, 10:53:07 AM
Great new project, can't wait to see your progress  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 26, 2014, 06:58:14 PM
Thak you all!!!

Here is the first corner version:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0198CasaMarchiaroE_zpsb7b5c170.jpg&hash=a4f27d2e330c3c32f59972487b4cd5d29281e7a7)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0199CasaMarchiaroE_zps62aa8a72.jpg&hash=77cd1c9ceded9d5d990e998b738f07fe3027e371)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0200CasaMarchiaroE_zps99d73e01.jpg&hash=d04c8cbd981eee36428a0b201781eb0435020e15)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0201CasaMarchiaroE_zpsa5cdcdc8.jpg&hash=34cde3518ccbda906d73cef34fddbfb0e9c0a7d2)

I hope you like it!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on December 27, 2014, 09:00:14 AM
Looks great as usual &apls  Also, the Beti-Jai looks promising.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on December 28, 2014, 06:36:50 AM
Very nice finished buildings!  &apls

And the sports arena is another interesting BAT. I think, it would be the first one, that is not modern, or at least built after the second WW.   :thumbsup:

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 28, 2014, 04:10:00 PM
Thank you C.P. and carlfatal!!! The Beti-Jai is a long-haul project, let's see its development!!!

First colour variation (as always):

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0202CasaMarchiaroE_zpse2d34e47.jpg&hash=3f0ec3245e9e013450d66ca1d21b9edc369e43a8)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0203CasaMarchiaroE_zps4a5fc0fe.jpg&hash=b1c2c73ce348d0bd303cdd20c4b8b00a1dbbf351)

This is going slowly, but it goes!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 29, 2014, 08:23:11 AM
Last colour variation:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0204CasaMarchiaroE_zps8a251b40.jpg&hash=1313b8e8611fa349b241f79902034bd5eb4a6e7e)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on December 29, 2014, 10:02:20 AM
Fantastic work.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Kergelen on December 29, 2014, 10:49:18 AM
Nice colour variations.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 30, 2014, 04:55:30 PM
Thank you guys!!!

Well, this is the last model variation of Casa Marchiaro. 3 models done, only one left... (the model on the right). Then I need to work a little on the lots, and let's see the result...

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0205CasaMarchiaroD_zps0f624f24.jpg&hash=90097116289d65900c68cf2eb966732004ba0d06)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0206CasaMarchiaroD_zps373029b4.jpg&hash=2cc900d14cf63a18c6f7210957d9f773b17d8846)

Next to come, the colour variations, as always...  :P
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on December 30, 2014, 04:59:33 PM
Daniel, what can I say ? Splendid work, as always.
Love that the inner court yard had a differnt wall surface than the street walls has...

Reminds me of Marrakesh.

Looking forward to see your lot work.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 31, 2014, 08:26:44 AM
Thank you Arne!!! Well, we can't deny that Spain has a strong arabic influence!!! :P The inner yards are part of our culture, especially in Southern Spain.

This is the last post of the year and as OSITM!!! I wish a Happy New Year to all!!  :bnn:
I couldn't prepare something special for today, so here's a normal update. I hope this month was not too boring and monotonous for you!!  ::)

The usual colour variation:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0207CasaMarchiaroD_zps4ff65e68.jpg&hash=174da5b2e844c648491e3684f97fb7b97b518307)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0208CasaMarchiaroD_zps831c6e6d.jpg&hash=0c870eca02ed62fee9821a3a567120efbf8b4ded)

Here's a general view from Testing City!!

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0209General_zps1debfc7f.jpg&hash=f769a8d7d344c09260ddf2db9b5a04d1c79f2206)

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on December 31, 2014, 12:54:13 PM
love the hilly testing city  :thumbsup:
Great work!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Catalyst on January 01, 2015, 12:20:17 AM
Beautiful  &apls

The stoplight looks extremely out of place though.
Now we need some 6x6 courtyard parks, or maybe 3x3 modular pieces for more variation.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 01, 2015, 05:31:55 PM
Simcoug: Thank you!!!

Catalyst: Thank you!! I hate the traffic lights too!! I'll try to take them out as soon as possible!!! I have to work on the lots to fill the backyards, so they don't look so empty.

Last colour variation:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0210CasaMarchiaroD_zps32b6d044.jpg&hash=0c6acad073220df10eee3211c54b8e8f7b80fef3)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0211CasaMarchiaroD_zps8cf4f9c5.jpg&hash=95cfeb510e5d377501091808a7579a93649e1f89)

Next to come, Casa Quaroni!!  :bnn:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on January 02, 2015, 09:33:48 AM
The test city looks amazing :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on January 03, 2015, 07:39:24 AM
Definitely not boring, thanks for a great month!  &apls

The test city looks nice. I'm also curious to see progress on the Beti-Jai fronton, the wooden grandstand and courtyard will make for spectacular BAT!  :o  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: seraf on January 04, 2015, 11:58:28 AM
It's good to see so much progress in here  :thumbsup: The test city looks very good and I can't wait to see how your recreation of Beti-Jai will turn out :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 05, 2015, 12:31:34 PM
c.p.: Thank you for your comment!!! But we all know how your testing city looks like  :thumbsup:

vortext & seraf: Thank you!! As I'm concentrating on the houses, I only work little on the Beti-Jai.

Here's a small progress:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0215BetiJai_zpsa5f3e420.jpg&hash=effbc3ec574c7dadb717d893cd93401fdfa7eecb)

I think I'm going to make the third floor, although it was never built.

Finally Casa Quaroni:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0212CasaQuaroni_zpsc0514efe.jpg&hash=26404ab06fbcdaa166e4772d812716a60f137a4d)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0213CasaQuaroni_zpsacf3782a.jpg&hash=bc5add983dd871fd0b4c55b56608ed58cd82e45f)

Backyard:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0214CasaQuaroni_zps0df1bddc.jpg&hash=6cbd2ae623698870bcf74373c75d04b9f9e180b0)

I hope you like it!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 05, 2015, 05:09:47 PM
Small update:  ::)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0216BetiJai_zps6d5299b7.jpg&hash=c62bb899ed63cd6ad35b129344df71b996dfff93)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on January 06, 2015, 01:41:11 PM
This is a beauty of a facade!  &apls
A real shame to see the original abandoned.  ()sad()
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 09, 2015, 01:22:03 PM
Thank you!!! Yes, it is a shame. I was reading about its history, and it was abandoned in 1919 because it was considered old compared to other frontons in Madrid. It served as a prison during the war, and then as a garage. It's a miracle it's still standing. There are plans to restore it, but this things always go very slowly.

Now, Casa Quaroni first colour variation:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0217CasaQuaroni_zps997c6fa3.jpg&hash=dde95703a1f82548d364cb35b6ede53ba7b3f011)

I hope you like it!!!  ;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 10, 2015, 11:02:50 AM
New colour variation:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0218CasaQuaroni_zps699f9358.jpg&hash=a18f1a2ff37341bc1602e9cbb881fc0e88de3e17)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on January 11, 2015, 12:50:07 PM
Sorry Daniel, but I have lost track of all your different variations.
I do hope you give the roof on the third house a work over later.

The second house, the size of the pattern is better.
Think it would benefit from an enlargement to at least 140 % (√2).
Difference of 100/140 % is where most people can see a difference.

Would love to see some 2 level houses like these. (Think I have said it before, but hey....)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Kergelen on January 11, 2015, 01:16:43 PM
Nice progress. I'm curious to see this new building from Madrid  ::)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 11, 2015, 02:15:26 PM
Thanks Kergelen!!!

Arne, when you talk about the second and third house do you refer to the last three updates (the different colour variations) or all the buildings: 1. Casa Arcos, 2. Casa Luis XVI, 3. Casa Marchiaro, 4. Casa Quaroni.  ()what()

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 12, 2015, 12:30:56 PM
As the works in the other construction sites are momentarily stopped, waiting for the answer of The Transport Commission (aka vester  $%Grinno$%), I've worked a little on the Beti Jai:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0219BetiJai_zps8c0fd052.jpg&hash=472d057a8e206354dce0f1a5c62e71be7029445f)

I hope you like it!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on January 12, 2015, 12:59:53 PM
I like it. All done in gmax!!!  ???  WoW


Does this (http://i.imgur.com/SoocbMe.jpg) answer you question ?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on January 12, 2015, 01:37:31 PM
Facade is shaping up nice!  :thumbsup:

Also second the request for two (or more) story buildings.  ::)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 12, 2015, 01:51:25 PM
Yes it does answer the question!!!  :D. I was confused, beacuse I haven't touched the pattern of the second house at all!!  :P. It's still in my to do list. OK, I'll work on the roof and enlarge the scale of the roof tiles on the third house.

I'm sorry to say I don't use gmax for modelling, but sketchup. I find it easier to work with. Then I export it to gmax.

Well, you both know I have 4 two-story buildings to work with after finishing these ones. I plan to do a two-story version of them anyway, but SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Don't tell!!  :-X
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on January 12, 2015, 04:56:20 PM
Nice detailing on the Beti Jai so far :thumbsup:  I look forward to seeing your 2 story houses. :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 13, 2015, 12:28:20 PM
Thank you c.p.!!! I have to finish those first!!  :P

Here's the new roof. I've changed the texture a bit and made the tiles bigger:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0220CasaQuaroni_zps73ea97b7.jpg&hash=fbc859e99d0efde9c18bcbfc3f44a66eec4d5b92)

Here you can see the new roof, the older roof and the oldest roof:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0221CasaQuaroni_zps9acf0fa3.jpg&hash=445b61e129a6ed5468f3f31c99146f13b16b5617)

I hope you like it better!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 16, 2015, 02:11:56 PM
Some progress in Beti Jai:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0222BetiJai_zps4413eeb0.jpg&hash=63289f108e4f627f2e6f651eb30e8caa0e36a21e)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on January 16, 2015, 03:28:01 PM
Looking great Daniel.  :thumbsup:
Love all the details.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on January 17, 2015, 09:05:10 AM
Beautiful modelling work so far on the Beti Jai.  :thumbsup: Could take awhile to render that one, with all the intricate details. ()testing()
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 17, 2015, 12:41:50 PM
vester: Thank you!!!

c.p.: Thank you!!  :D Let's see, it's my biggest BAT so far.

I've changed the roofs of the other versions, I hope you like it!!

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0223CasaQuaroni_zps80ace62c.jpg&hash=42071564fbea2829a279a350f798636ba0441a1d)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: gn_leugim on January 17, 2015, 01:45:21 PM
neat, mucho bueno ;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on January 19, 2015, 08:37:54 AM
Great work on the new facade and latest roof modification  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 20, 2015, 02:18:30 PM
gn_leugim: Muito obrigado!!!  :D

noahclem: Thank you!!!

Corner version, I hope you like it!!

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0225CasaQuaroniE_zpsa1b19435.jpg&hash=0b349f85565af6b60eeea3fa873a5378b33576c6)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0224CasaQuaroniE_zps041d1159.jpg&hash=09c34c9054d26fe68b9f7c65a2fc0a54fd1413fa)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0226CasaQuaroniE_zps34ef2adf.jpg&hash=009bc49b4556458fa7c711bfceab404af5b38edb)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on January 20, 2015, 02:41:38 PM
I'm liking this corner version a lot!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: gn_leugim on January 21, 2015, 03:44:27 AM
much needed  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 23, 2015, 03:26:55 AM
art128 and gn_leugim: Thank you!!!

Other colour versions:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0229CasaQuaroniE_zps5f5ff0e1.jpg&hash=5af5abea5993bc28dc543eca6add8f0b3070d763)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0228CasaQuaroniE_zpsa812f047.jpg&hash=037e2fa447f0212ffba0f06351c75fa686f2eeb1)

The Beti-Jai facade is completely modelled (I think):

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I mixed two different plans to complete the missing parts:

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I hope you like it!!! (I used a Greek font, just to simulate some sort of Simlish)

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on January 23, 2015, 05:06:51 AM
Awesome!  I love the simlish  :D
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 25, 2015, 05:10:17 PM
Thanks!! I preferred using "Simlish" because I think it fits better with the game.  :P I've noticed that I've forgotten the "Beti-Jai" sign.

Now, the last model version of the last house (only two colour variations left):

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I hope everything is OK.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 26, 2015, 04:41:02 PM
Well, finally the last two colour variations!! I hope everything is OK.

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Does anyone know how to remove all the maxis streetside props? I don't want to replace them with custom ones, just remove them. I've tried my luck at modding, manipulating the simcity_1.dat with the reader and trying to make a patch with the T21 network lots. I made a new .dat archive with the lots and removed all the LotConfigPropertyLotObjects of all of them, but it didn't work. Can anyone help me, or post a link to a tutorial or mod?

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on January 26, 2015, 04:50:27 PM
Looking great, Daniel.

One thing, the roof textures on the 3rd from the corner in 1st picture,
2nd and 4th house in the second pictures.
Try to strech the texture to 140% in the width.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on January 27, 2015, 02:25:51 AM
Final two? Final as in final!?! As in: wrap this up for download final!?  :bnn:

As for the streetside props, Im currently at work (coffee break I swear) but I don't like them either, will send you some files tonight.  ;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 27, 2015, 09:58:31 AM
Thanks to both!! Well, I still have to work on the lots and do some props, but if you want simple blank lots, I can upload them as they are now.

Now, the rectified texture (I have to render all the casa Quaroni models with the stretched roof texture again). I hope it's the definitive version.

New and previous version:

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on January 27, 2015, 10:07:52 AM
If its the 3rd roof from corner, I would say its an improvement to keep.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 27, 2015, 10:14:44 AM
Yes, it is!! I should put a mark on the main building next time!  :P
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 29, 2015, 12:58:04 PM
Well, I think Casa Quaroni and friends are finished. I should start working on the props and lots.

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on January 29, 2015, 01:03:53 PM
Amazing work - that's quite a collection!  Can't wait to see the props  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on January 30, 2015, 10:00:05 AM
Seems, that I need to reinstall SC4 soon again...  $%Grinno$%

Beautiful houses!  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: danwaxx on January 30, 2015, 03:35:54 PM
I'd love to have even as blank lots...for now at least! Beautiful señor.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 02, 2015, 04:10:26 PM
Thank you all!!

Well, those days I've been working on the fences for the empty lots. Perhaps it's a bit stupid taking son much time for them, but I like the result. First I tested some sizes and textures. Now the wooden planks are 53,3 cm wide. After all that changes the files got corrupted (immortal props) and I had to erase my testing city and build a new one. Now I'm experiencing some slope issues. (I'm using NHP Ennedi Slope Mod), and some roads raise up when they should go down. Anyway, I made new props for the fences and I could fix the first problem. The fences are built as independent wooden planks grouped into a family. (Yes, it was a lot of work to put every plank in every lot, and there are quite a lot of lots... but I think it's finished now  :bnn:). Next to do: some advertising posters for the fences or the backyards' walls... We'll see tomorrow...

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Here you can see the fences. They don't stay too long, because the lots are filled quickly with new homes. I hope you like them!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on February 03, 2015, 03:14:19 AM
Cool idea and implementation with the fences and great continued work on your BATs  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on February 03, 2015, 10:54:05 AM
Fences look great to me and nice you've put them in a prop family!  :thumbsup:

Quote from: romualdillo on February 02, 2015, 04:10:26 PM
Now I'm experiencing some slope issues. (I'm using NHP Ennedi Slope Mod), and some roads raise up when they should go down.

Hm yeah, that's my bad. Maybe I should've mentioned beforehand some of the intersections, diagonal and FA in particular, use overhanging models. The advantage being it allows the intersections to have the same geometry as their ortho counterparts. The downside is the overhanging bits don't handle steep height differences too well and tend to stick out, as you've already noticed. Other than building on perfectly flat land there's no real solution to it. You may want to consider a more restrictive slope mod if it really is bothering you, or smooth out the area at hand. 
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 03, 2015, 05:19:22 PM
noahclem: Thank you!!!

vortext: Thank you!!! Now I know that it wasn't your bad. The only reason for the issues I experienced was that I'm stupid. I didn't realize that the first time I built my testing city I used streets instead of roads. With Ennedi's mod, roads do sculpt the terrain but streets don't, so I was surprised when I dragged the roads with your texture and they sculpted the terrain to match the maximum slope allowed. That's why I thought the terrain was raising...  :innocent:

Now the backyard fences/walls. I think I have to desaturate the texture a bit, but this was only a test. I've done some nice variations for them.

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I hope you like the result. Photobucket resizes the images automatically... (And I'm too lazy to open a new account somewhere else).
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 04, 2015, 08:39:21 AM
Texture change. I think it looks better now... I know it looks too repetitive, but it's only a test...  ;) Just try to imagine them different, and with some trees and plants  &Thk/(

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I decided to do the fences as a single prop, because I wanted different fences to appear without doing different lots. (I love prop families)  :P
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on February 04, 2015, 08:47:02 AM
haha, I see. Slope mods can be quite tricky to use indeed. Usually I cement everything in place with road tiles and then drag the slope bit. And even then, sometimes it raises the entire plateau. .  :bomb: At any rate, glad to know it weren't my roads at fault!

Nice start with the walls!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 06, 2015, 03:59:12 PM
vortext: Thank you!!!  :D

Testing different brick textures and fence models...

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: deora on February 09, 2015, 03:24:20 PM
It is always a pleasure to take a look at your thread because there are always nice new things to see.
I really like how the little houses turned out.
The Fences and walls are a really great addition to those little houses.Do i see some rear porches on some houses?I guess when in a very good shape,you really can enjoy living in such a small gem.You have lots of privacy,fresh air and light from almost every side and for someone who likes old buildings this must be a great way to live.
The textures on the new walls look pretty nice,i also noticed you always used slightly different textures for the wall elements between each pillar.

Too bad that some neighbors only have tiny short back yards instead of the long narrow backyards from the houses facing east and west :D
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: cmdp123789 on February 09, 2015, 04:11:11 PM
Those walls would be awesome to use as seawalls and also as walls for highways.. have you considered that?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on February 10, 2015, 12:41:02 AM
The fences look brilliant  &apls  I think these lots of a lot of potential  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 14, 2015, 06:05:40 PM
deora: Thank you!!! In an ideal world these houses are a great place to live, adapted to life and climate conditions in southern latitudes. Normally, they didn't have such enormous backyards as every square meter was used to build, but in some cases they had. Backyards (big or small) were used as private yards, orchards and even to keep animals like chickens or goats. We call them "traspatios" and in the house hierarchy they were part of the kitchens' service area, and where children could play. Perhaps it sounds strange, but that's how people organised their homes not so far in the past. The official "garden" was the first yard, the "patio", where the guests were led when the day was good: a representative area. I'll try to reproduce this way of living, which was different, but had its reasons.

cmdp123789: Thank you!!! No, I have not, but it's a good idea indeed.  ;)

noahclem: Thank you!!!

I've been making some versions from the previous walls. I think I need to do wood and stone walls, but they'll come in the next releases. I don't want to do more walls for now.  :P

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Other think I've been working on: Telephone poles. I've think doing electric power poles, too, but I've realised it could look weird if I have an underground system for the street lights.

That's how it looks now, it still needs some polish...  ::)

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I hope you like it!!! I'm going to use them in the low density lots, I still have to test them with the R$$ buildings.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: 11241036 on February 15, 2015, 02:04:35 AM
You've done a great job so far. &apls The telephone poles look like a good addition. You could polish the houses up with a few trees, flowers, shrubs, toys, benches etc. in the backyard. Other than that, I'm really looking forward to see your work on the LEX. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: pxljce on February 15, 2015, 02:33:35 AM
These are great!! My favourite are the small details like the tower popping up here and there, the water towers and the small porches/courtyards look inviting. Also think the different yard wall textures make a big difference. Oh and the basements that mean I can use them on a slope.

What would normally be in the garden strips at the back?

I'm asking because we have similar types of dense row houses and those yards are normally filled with all kinds of ju... uh important things.  $%Grinno$%

Excited to download these.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on February 15, 2015, 03:11:56 AM
Would love to see the back as a maze with a lot of smaller houses.
There are still a few of those area left in Copenhagen (https://goo.gl/maps/6m3sd).


How is it going with that game arena, the Beti Jai ?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 15, 2015, 09:26:04 AM
11241036: Thank you!!!

pxljce: Thank you!!! I'm still thinking about the backyards...  &Thk/(

vester: Thank you!!! Well, the old Spanish concept looks a bit different. I was thinking about something like this, but in a smaller scale:

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Original link (http://solucionista.es/madrid-bajo-la-mirada-de-michel-bricteu/pieree-mathues-2012_-editw/)

They're called "corralas","ciudadelas" or "conventillos" in different parts of Spain and South America.

I'm still experimenting with the wires:

They work almost fine in small slopes...

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But in bigger slopes...

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I'm going to try other thing: render smaller parts with the model exactly the same size as the LOD box. It won't be perfect, but it will look better. Life could be much easier if there was X-axis deformation without Z-axis rotation.  :(
There's other possibility: render the wires as models on the ground, make them "orient to slope", elevate them with the lot editor and then pray for the Z-axis rotation to count from the prop base and not from the ground... This would be very complicated and most probably not working.


Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on February 16, 2015, 04:39:25 AM
Cool concept with the wires  :thumbsup:  Buildings continue to look great  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 16, 2015, 08:50:35 AM
noahclem: Thank you!!!!

vester: I forgot to say that I've been working on the Beti-Jai building, but as I'm concentrating on the R$ lots I haven't done much...

Well I think the wires work finally. I don't know if you were interested in having them :-[, but they worth it:

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They don't look bad in other views:

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I like this image very much...

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Welcome to the suburbs!!  :D

I still have to work on the poles' LODs and test the wires with R$$ buildings. If everything is OK I'll add them to all the lots.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on February 16, 2015, 12:58:19 PM
The wires look really nice, however, I have my reservations about adding them to the lots. I think it will look strange when there're gaps in the row, let alone in combination with other buildings. Not everyone will be using your lots exclusively.  ;)

These kinda props are better suited for T21-ing along the road. .  ::)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 16, 2015, 04:03:11 PM
Yes, you're right. That's why I wasn't sure about uploading them, because they're a personal preference. (Just like the street props I'm going to do. I want them to be on the lots because I think it gives more possibilities to make different street styles). I just wanted to do the experiment. Perhaps I can upload a basic version and a complete version of the lots. Others can do road mods with the props if they like them...  ::)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 25, 2015, 03:48:23 PM
I corrected the LODs' issues you can see on these pictures:

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On the first picture's upper left corner you see the "Casa Arcos" porch and the backyard wall arguing about their right to appear first. On the second one you can see how some wires disappear when approaching a house. I manipulated the LODs to avoid those problems, an this is the result:

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The wires are not visible on these pictures, but you'll see them on the next ones with other addition to the lots:

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I hope you like the signs. I had much fun doing them!!! You can find Spanish, Argentinian and Cuban brands among them, and other international brands present in Spain in the 1910's. I think they can be included in the basic lots to download. What do you think?

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on February 25, 2015, 04:12:14 PM
Your LOD work seems to have fixed the wiring issues perfectly and the signs are a subtle but perfect addition. Just wish I could go to zoom 9 and see them a little closer ;) Great work  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on February 26, 2015, 01:16:00 AM
Have missed a few updates..
Your idea of power cables between the houses is excellent and well done!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 27, 2015, 01:47:58 PM
Thank you guys!!!

I've started with the backyard elements. A fence to divide long lots (obviously I'll change the fences' position in every lot, this is just a test).

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If you've got any idea or suggestion for the backyards, please tell me: elements, design... I still have no idea of how to do them... I'm sorry this is going so slow. &ops
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: 11241036 on February 27, 2015, 04:59:29 PM
I have some suggestions for elements for your houses' backyards:

* Trees and shrubs can be found in many gardens. For shrubs, you could probably take default Maxis shrubbery or SimGoobers Hydrangea shrubs. About trees: I believe the BSC MEGA PropPack CP Vol02 http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=2790 (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=2790) contains many trees from various parts of the world (including the Mediterranean area, for example), there might be some to your liking.
* On R$$$ lots, you might want to include flower beds or even small ponds.
* Other items might be: patio chairs, those inflatable pools that children like to bathe in (both are I believe available as default Maxis props), laundry lines, fireplaces,... You could try to think of any house you've been living in or you visited once and try to recall what was located there.
* You could also get some ideas by opening default Maxis lots in the Lot Editor and looking what Maxis places on their own lots. Sometimes, an easy solution can come in handy as well.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on February 27, 2015, 06:34:49 PM
Big fan of the signs!   :thumbsup:
They will definitely get a place in my lotting palette  ;D
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 28, 2015, 07:11:59 PM
11241036: Thank you very much for the advice!!! I'll try the fireplaces and the laundry lines, they are a great idea and they match the modular idea I want to develop. I have the BSC MEGA PropPack and I'll take a look to the trees, but I was thinking about HD props.

Simcoug: Thank you!!!! I must confess that I had the idea looking at one of your images  ::)

Well, as I said before I think the best way to design the backyards is using a modular system, with different props and uses, all grouped into a family. There will be some invisible props, just to create empty spaces (up to 50% of the props). I've thought about greenhouses, orchards, garden sheds, chairs and tables... I'll do the same with the fences dividing the backyards. I don't know if I could do something similar with seasonal trees...

Here are the greenhouses:

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I hope you like the idea!!!

EDIT: A hen house

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EDIT II: A Dovecote

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EDIT III: Kennel and Dog House

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EDIT IV: Garden shed

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EDIT V: Another Garden shed

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EDIT VI: I was inspired today and I did another Garden Shed  :P

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EDIT VII: I wanted to do something original, so I did a Woodshed :D

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on March 07, 2015, 07:25:45 PM
I was bored of doing sheds and I wanted to do something different. I've been reading some tutorials and I could make this:

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It's the old Ford Model T that came in the bonus CD when I bought the game long time ago. I was frustrated because it wasn't driveable, so I made it driveable. Now I'm working on the texture, trying to improve it. I want to do different colour variations, as always  :P. My final target is preventing the other cars to appear, but I still don't know how to do it (overrides or something similar), so if anyone can help, I'll be very grateful.  ;)

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If you have any suggestion for the texture's improvement, please tell me!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on March 08, 2015, 06:19:05 AM
Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes!  :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on March 08, 2015, 07:56:03 AM
Ghost car!  ()lurker()

No one drives it. Maybe add a man to the seat ?


Haven't looked into cars as such. You will need to overwrite all the different cars.
Think Gizmo did a replacement mod. You will need to go to his site to get it.
http://gizmo.aplaceforwebsite.com/

If he did it, it will holds all the TGI ID for the cars.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on March 08, 2015, 12:32:38 PM
My internet connection was on the slow side for some time, and so I missed some updates. Crazy work, my friend. In between I need to look for the missing perspective to realize, that this is SimCity anymore!  &apls
The car is simply stunning, and I definately would play with an oldtimer mod.  :thumbsup:

Keep it up!  :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on March 08, 2015, 01:11:06 PM
Simcoug: Thank you!!!  :D

vester:  :D  Yes, it needs a driver. The car came without it. I planned to use the default drivers the game has, but I haven't found them at the moment. I know they exist, because this car (as the motorbikes), uses them:

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In game (sorry I have no image) it appears with a driver, but nothing in the exemplar file references it. I think it works like the trucks' wares. I haven't found them either. I don't know where they are and how to use them. If nobody knows, I'll try my hand with low poly drivers.  :D

Thank you very much for the link!!!!

carlfatal: Thank you!!!

EDIT: Does anyone know how to find an exemplar file using a S3D file? I've found the drivers' S3D files in reader, but I don't know how to find the other files attached to them.

EDIT II: Turned back to the backyards. Now I did a laundry.

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EDIT III: Oven with Grill and an Orchard (Tomatoes)

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: seraf on March 14, 2015, 08:28:15 AM
I have no idea why but the backyards make me think about Japanese houses  ()what() Anyway - you did a wonderful job  :thumbsup: All "add-ons" look great :)

And old Ford Model T... what I would give to have Cadillac v63 or Renault Enclosed Limousine in game  ;D
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on March 14, 2015, 09:22:17 AM
seraf: Thank you!!! You're right, they look Japanese. Perhaps they look so because of the natural wood structures, I don't know. About the car, there's a long way until something is finished, but I'll remember the Cadillac and Renault...  :D

Now, new orchards. I think I'm going to do some more and add two or three clothes lines. If everything looks right I'll add them to the 1x2 lots.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0280%2520Huertos_zpspztiykgd.jpg&hash=4eb011989580bf1a31305e674ffff1ddce153da8)

I hope you like them!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: kelis on March 14, 2015, 10:42:31 AM
The day that all those W2W buildings are available I'm not sure If I could resist without make a Spanish region...They are really nice !!

Saludos compañero.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on March 14, 2015, 03:53:59 PM
awesome - I love the variety!  These will  be great for lotters as well (prop families are a favorite  of mine  :) )
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: 11241036 on March 14, 2015, 06:07:53 PM
Seems like I've missed a few of your updates, but I can only say I'm overwhelmed. Not only have you done much good work, it's also very rich in detail and very versatile. And you've been adding stuff that has really been missing since the day SC4 was born.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on March 15, 2015, 06:22:31 AM
Seem to have missed a couple of updates as well, great work with the model T! &apls

Needless to say I'd love to see more cars of this era. The little planters for the backyards are neat, too, though I have to ask if they're seasonal? If not, I hope you'll consider making seasonal variety, bit unrealistic imho to see flowering crops all year round. At any rate, keep up the great work!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on March 18, 2015, 09:47:54 AM
kelis: Thank you!!! :D I'd like to see it!!! (Tengo unas ganas de terminar ya... $%Grinno$%)

Simcoug: Thank you!!! Props are as important as the buildings on a lot, so I'm trying to do my best...  ;D

11241036: Thank you!!! I try to make them as versatile as possible. I'm glad you like them!!!

vortext: Thank you!!! I've thought about making them seasonal, but I want them to be in a prop family. The only thing I could do is making them semi-seasonal. (Unless there was a way to make them really seasonal, but I don't know how... ()what())

Now the last orchards:

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And clothes lines:

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I hope you like them!!! These are the last pieces for the backyards' bottoms. I've thought about adding some trees to the family. Do you have any HD suggestion? (I'm searching for HD date palms, but I haven't found any). Meanwhile I'll try to make the orchards seasonal.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on March 18, 2015, 10:47:35 AM
Great!  I love the outdoor oven - I think that might be a first for SC4  :thumbsup:
For the planter beds, I think semi-seasonal would be fine (Dead for winter/fall and crops in spring/summer)  No need to over do it.  More slope tolerant planter beds is a win in my book :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on March 19, 2015, 03:00:32 PM
I'm glad you like them!!!

Well, after an intensive class about vegetables' growth and another about timed props, I've done this:

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Tomatoes appear between April and October
Lettuces (green and red): March - November
Cabbages: January - May, July - November
Chard: January - March, May - July, September - November
China Cabbages: January - March, May - July, September - November
Carrots: January - March, May - July, September - November
Cucumbers: May - November
Pumpkins: May - November
Potatoes: April - September

I hope you like them!!!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on March 19, 2015, 03:07:05 PM
&apls &apls

Though perhaps. .  ::)  also make shaded versions? Like CP did with his planters so they don't stand out as much when placed in the shadows, like is the case now with the walls. But regardless I'm definitely gonna put these to good use!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on March 20, 2015, 12:46:44 PM
Thank you!!! I tried to make 30cm high LODs, but they were often covered by the ground on the slopes and I had to do higher ones.

Now I have a doubt. I've been thinking about it, as the most important part of the orchards are the plants. I didn't know how to model them by myself so I downloaded the original models from the 3d Warehouse (https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/index.html), and adapted them to my purposes (sizes, proportions and textures) even modifying the 3d model. None of those actions are against the Terms of Use of that page (even uploading the final model), but I don't know if that could create a conflict here. I'm supposed to be responsible of everything I upload and I don't want any copyright problem, here or in other pages, and I don't want to appropriate others' work. I've read the Site Rules and I couldn't find anything about that. So, the questions are: Should I upload them? Should I credit the original model's authors? Or, shouldn't I upload them at all, and keep them for myself? I didn't think about that when doing the models, as I usually download other things for other purposes and never faced a problem like this.  ()what()

Now, a new object with the same issue. I couldn't find any HD palm, so I rendered one by myself. This (https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=f5f925b4155d58679240b738dd9d8978) is the original model. I've changed its propotions and improved textures and modelling (I hope so). I hope you like it, and if you know something I could do to improve it, please tell!!

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on April 10, 2015, 07:12:06 PM
Your work with the details, including all the props recently, has been really exceptional. The lots are looking excellent  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on April 12, 2015, 05:36:10 PM
Thank you Noah!!!

I've been working on the backyard props. I can say that the 1x2 and 2x2 simple version of the lots are finished. I still have to do the props for the 1x3 and 2x3 lots. I've done 6 different families based on props' variations. I hope you like them:

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When I got bored of working on the props, I continued working on the cars. If you remember, vester pointed that the car looked ridiculous without a driver.

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My first intention was using the driver "effect" of the pink convertible or the bikes, but I didn't know how. He suggested asking rivit about it. I did, and he could introduce the drivers into the car. (I still don't know how, he is the master  :o). But the result wasn't very successful... The driver didn't fit in the car:

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So I had to work on the driver model... That was easy, but texturing it was a nightmare!!! But finally I could... and I made different versions... They're not an effect, they're part of the 3ds model, but I think they work. I hope you like them. All of them are driveable (in fact, it is the start of an override mod).

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0303%2520Coche_zpsuz3o8ois.jpg&hash=380f42367f742331531610f2e81393bbd36d1ee0)

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As always I accept suggestions and critics. I can try to upload the cars and the 1x2 and 2x2 lots, if you don't want to wait until I finish the 1x3 and 2x3. What do you think?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: 11241036 on April 12, 2015, 06:25:26 PM
Seems you've done a good job with the buildings. Imo please take the time you need for making them, I think this is better than uploading a half-finished product. I've only spotted one issue (although I'm not sure if that's probably just my imagination): On the second-to-last picture with the houses, the palm seems to grow inside the wooden cabin or the wall. You might want to fix that, although since I have no skills in batting whatsoever, I have no clue how to fix it.

Do you plan on adding other trees to your lots? If yes, I found this little mediterranean gem on the LEX.

http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=2758 (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=2758)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on April 13, 2015, 10:05:06 AM
The little cars are so neat!!  &apls

And in ultra-HD or something? Looks really great. The props are great, too, and I don't mind waiting for the larger lots to be finished.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on April 13, 2015, 01:46:49 PM
Wow, these turned out phenomenal  &apls &apls  The automata is brilliant and the driver solution turned out excellently. I'll leave it up to you whether to release all together or with the finished lots earlier though I'm certainly eager to have a look at them in game ;)  K-point for all your efforts here!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: reddonquixote on April 14, 2015, 01:48:21 AM
So much work... its really amazing! Well done  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on April 14, 2015, 07:43:12 AM
Amazing!  I really hope you can release the cars as prop files too, they would be extremely useful for using on lots.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on April 20, 2015, 04:23:35 AM
First of all, I hope it is not too late to say thanks for all the K-points: Thanks to Sim.Rico (and Tarkus and catty for accepting his requests), art128 and noahclem. I don't know if it's the right way, but I wanted to do something.
It's incredible to see how the members have so much confidence in me, although I haven't released anything yet.

Thank you very much!!! I hope not to disappoint you in any way!  :-[

Now the replies:

11241036: Thank you!!! Yes, I plan to use other trees, and girafe's ones are at the top of my list.

vortext: Thank you!!!  :D Well, they were not meant to be ultra HD, but as they are "real" 3D models and not rendered ones, they have their original textures.

noahclem: Thank you!!!

reddonquixote: Thank you!!!

Simcoug: Thank you!!! I'll release the cars as props, too. (Still a lot of work to do)

Now, something different. I did a streetlamp model and then I used MandelSoft's light cones to light it up. His work makes the game look totally different at night, it's incredible!! I couldn't resist to show you this image:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0308%2520Farolas_zps7ahbkrfd.jpg&hash=50b35aa27ff4cbb09b9dec42d1393b76c2744570)

The streetlamps will be added to the "complete" lot version (yes, they are on the lots  :P) I hope you like them!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on April 20, 2015, 07:17:02 AM
Love it. Great result.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on April 21, 2015, 04:01:51 PM
Exciting and great-looking project  &apls  ...though why are you making them part of the lot rather then street T21 props to replace existing ones or as a separate mod?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on April 27, 2015, 04:18:39 PM
vester: Thank you!!!

noahclem: Thank you!! I don't plan to do any mod at the moment. I put the street props on the lots because it's easier to do different street styles this way. That's why I didn't want any prop on the roads.  ::)

Now some progress:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0309%2520Patios_zpsovvm8ycr.jpg&hash=d057dec97aa5442a9fa8a1a12c27f830ba3dd8cb)

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I hope you like it!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Dantes on April 28, 2015, 03:40:34 AM
Your gardens are now very busy. I wonder what it looks like from a greater distance. Have you ever finished first city districts? (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2F9a92c2791da82a2e5a9d29200fc5639e.gif&hash=1fcd757cba2476a95bba866d4185af3ec40004e9) I want to finally see a completed city.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on April 28, 2015, 04:53:18 AM
As far I know (I can't speak about all Spain), backyards were not considered as gardens if people already had an inner yard at home. They were not meant to be beautiful in most cases, only useful. So they were quite busy and anarchic. Women used to make gardens if there was enough space, but orchards and other service areas were required. I say women, because it was not men's work to care of the house, and I'm trying to reproduce a certain era. Nowadays all these spaces look different, more formal and garden-like, because the way of life has changed a lot since then.(And men work now at home, too, although Spain is still not exemplary in this area)
In this case it depends on the game that the backyards look denser or not, because every family is different.  ;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Dantes on April 28, 2015, 05:06:04 AM
Thank you for this explanation. I did not know that. Very interesting indeed. Architecture shows how people live. ôo' The inneryards look great.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on April 28, 2015, 06:12:09 AM
Wow, those yards look amazing! Really a lot of detail  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on April 29, 2015, 05:26:55 AM
All those little props are amazing! Can't wait to get a hold of 'em.  &apls :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on April 29, 2015, 02:19:55 PM
Love the back yards.


Considering a more northern European version of the back yards, without the palms ?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on May 02, 2015, 03:48:52 PM
Dantes,noahclem,vortext: A big thank you to all!!!  ;)

vester: Thank you!! The props are grouped into families, if you take out the palm props they won't appear on the lots.

I need your opinion. First "real garden" props:

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Vines and lavender. What do you think?

EDIT:

Some benches:

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on May 03, 2015, 12:44:39 PM
It's a bit strange imho the lavender is brighter in winter then summer, perhaps the purple could be brighter. The vines in winter look too dark to me, and during summer it looks a bit like fish scales, i.e. bit too 2d with metallic-y surface.  Does that make sense!?  :D

The benches look great though!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: kelis on May 04, 2015, 02:07:05 AM
Vortext gave to you some good advices !! I must say that I love your work here. I understand that you need all this time to create this amazing set. Keep it up my friend.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on May 04, 2015, 09:41:28 AM
vortext: Thank you for your advice! I hope you like the changes!!

kelis: Thank you!!

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Lavender, Vines and Bougainvilleas. Bougainvilleas are perennial when planted in gardens, because they're watered all the year long.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on May 04, 2015, 10:32:38 AM
Great improvements!  :thumbsup:

Quote from: romualdillo on May 04, 2015, 09:41:28 AM
Bougainvilleas are perennial when planted in gardens, because they're watered all the year long.

If by perennial you mean they have flowers all year long than that'd be due to a hot climate, not because of watering. They're seasonal in colder climates and if it happens to rain a lot as well they will in fact not bloom at all.  ;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: 11241036 on May 04, 2015, 12:22:08 PM
The lavender looks much better now, I think. About the vines/bougainvillea: Not sure if this is important, but the most fitting name for this wooden construction giving you a shadowy place in summer is "trellis", I believe.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on May 04, 2015, 02:12:03 PM
The gardens are looking amazing!   &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on May 05, 2015, 12:15:47 AM
Wow, these gardens are really coming together excellently  &apls  The detail with the plants seems perfect!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on May 05, 2015, 08:49:19 AM
vortext: Thank you!!! Well, I think the problem was that I live just too south. :D Bougainvilleas only lose their flowers if they aren't correctly watered. I had to investigate deeper about them to do a semi-seasonal version. ;D

11241036: Thank you!!! I thought the word was "arbor". I thought "trellis" was a structure for creepers to climb. (I did not know the real meaning of "creeper" until I searched for it  :P). Anyway, I did a fast search in Google and perhaps both are possible. My English is not very good.  :)

Simcoug: Thank you!!!

noahclem: Thank you!!!

Semi-seasonal Bougainvillea and Hydrangea (colour variations to come if everything is fine)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0316%2520Jardines_zpsgonhoiti.jpg&hash=2c01f5f83ccee1bbfd779fe339fc68dadf2d5292)

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What do you think?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on May 05, 2015, 10:31:48 AM
ha yes, bougainvilleas will drop their leaves during a dry spell - in that regard they're deciduous!  :D The winter version looks great!  :thumbsup:

Hydrangea look nice as well, though if possible maybe refine the flowers a bit, atm it looks like a uniform ball while it actually consist of many small flowers with rather small petals (https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegracefulgardener.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F06%2F2012-06-18_6503_edited-15.jpg&f=1). Then again maybe that's too fine detailing to properly display ingame.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on May 06, 2015, 02:42:39 PM
I've tried adding more "noise" to the texture, but the flowers are just too small to see them properly.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0318%2520Jardines_zpsv0259xp9.jpg&hash=9535f62ec15b5de84999c2ee5c134e14278058ea)

Added colour variations to the bougainvilleas: pink, orange, white and fuchsia.

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What do you think?

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on May 07, 2015, 02:17:54 PM
I think they look wonderful!  From such a distance, you wouldn't be able to see much more than colored blobs for the flowers anyway, and I think you gave them enough definition that they don't just look like round circles.  Awesome work here!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on May 08, 2015, 01:29:06 AM
The gardener strikes again--these look fantastic  &apls  There could potentially be a lot of neat uses for all the flora you're working on here!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on May 10, 2015, 03:36:39 PM
Thank you guys!!!

New Hydrangea colours and Agapanthus:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0321%2520Jardines_zpskle3pfzp.jpg&hash=8d784935270b9fcae0f187f88f26895b47a80058)

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You may notice that I'm using Girafe's Cypresses.  :P I hope my props don't look too simple with them.
What do you think?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on May 10, 2015, 04:34:21 PM
Just keeps better and better. :thumbsup:


Hope you know when to stop  ;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on May 11, 2015, 05:28:21 AM
Wonderful!  Have you considered modeling a foundation that goes below ground to match up to the planter boxes?  That way you could create raised beds (or the beds will be slope friendly).  CP has something similar in his prop pack:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82314303/Photos/Misc%20Photos/CP%20planter%20box%20with%20foundation.jpg)
(hopefully you can see the image... Dropbox has never given me problems before)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on May 11, 2015, 05:40:29 AM
Great work with the new flowers  &apls  I think they go excellently with the cypresses!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on May 17, 2015, 09:51:39 AM
vester: Thank you!!! I think I'm going to stop for now...

Simcoug: Thank you!!! All the planter boxes have a 1m deep foundation below them!!

noahclem: Thank you!!!

Blue Agapanthus:

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Clivias:

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Jasmine:

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Allium Giganteum:

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Wall Fountain:

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What do you think?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on May 17, 2015, 01:40:49 PM
Wow, those gardens are beautiful. &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on May 18, 2015, 05:30:45 AM
The variety is outstanding!  Super work - I can't wait to use these on my own lots.  :thumbsup:

Would you consider increasing the depth of the foundation (maybe to 3m or so)... That way we could raise up the beds to use in city parks and such?  I like doing that with C.P.'s planter beds and I think it looks good in more urban environments. 
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on May 20, 2015, 05:41:15 AM
Second the request for deeper foundations but other than that the planters are awesome! Wall fountain is also very nice addition. Shaping up to an excellent prop collection. Keep at it!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: reddonquixote on June 03, 2015, 07:29:28 AM
I've been a bit late/slow in reply but these are lovey! Great work  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 07, 2015, 11:27:15 AM
c.p. and reddonquixote: Thank you!!!

Simcoug and vortext Thank you and done!!!

I'm sorry I haven't post anything for a while, but I'm busy doing the props' variations and I haven't done anything interesting but the school's new version I'm posting now (I was a bit bored of doing props):

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I've been thinking about using the ads on the wall, and I still don't know how to reduce capacity without reducing demand. Can anybody help me? What do you think?

EDIT: Some minor changes

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on June 08, 2015, 09:38:28 AM
Nice!  What stats are you trying to change?  You should be able to make any changes in the reader regarding student capacity and effective radius.  Just be sure you don't change it while keeping an old version in your city... that will cause the slider bug. 
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on June 08, 2015, 11:56:01 AM
It looks great :thumbsup:
I forget the exact number, but there is a minimum capacity for schools, where if you go below that number the school doesn't work correctly.  I believe it is either 250 or 500, (but I could be wrong.)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 08, 2015, 01:20:45 PM
Thank you both!!! Perhaps c.p. is right. I tried to reduce the school's capacity to 50 students (2 classrooms), and then the problems started. When the capacity is reduced, the students' number drops dramatically. For 3000 inhabitants in the area I only get 10 students maximum.

I noticed something wrong with the walls, they were just too high. I had multiplied the height twice, now I have corrected them.

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I think it looks better now.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on June 22, 2015, 01:51:54 PM
It's great to see your beautiful and detailed project progress, even if I'm not around very often recently  &apls  I agree with your decision to lower the walls &apls--height scale is always tricky in this game, and particularly so when dealing with high quality details, and I feel people err too often on making things too tall. I'll be following closely, even if I'm not able to do much myself ;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on July 03, 2015, 06:15:49 AM
Thank you noahclem!!

I'm sorry I haven't post anything for a month, but I've been busy with other things. Anyway, I continued working on the props, and I think I've done everything I had planned. I still want to add other details to the backyards, but I'm not sure if I will be able to do so.

Now the result: ()stsfd()

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I put some Sims doing Sims' things. I don't know if I like them much, but I think it's necessary to bring the backyards to life.

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I also finished my first school. I did 4 versions, following c.p.'s way, I hope you like them:

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Street views. Don't worry, the uploaded version won't have any street prop...  ;D

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Night shots with Maarten's light cones:

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General view of Testing City:

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I hope you like my work so far!!!  :P
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on July 03, 2015, 06:24:14 AM
The overview looks very lively! Nice work.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on July 03, 2015, 08:16:32 AM
Wonderful, simply wonderful!  &apls

I am sure, we will find some nice Latin American towns here in the future.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: kelis on July 03, 2015, 12:53:38 PM
Increible, brutal, una pasada vamos !!

I love all those buildings, they looks very nice my friend !! Are you finally finishing your project ?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Edvarz on July 03, 2015, 05:02:28 PM
Qué maravilla de edificios y de props!!!!

I've been following your thread for a long time, and I just wanted to stop by to compliment your work, you have created beautiful and varied buildings with richly detailed and realistic lots, it's just stunning to look at them. Plus, there is not a lot of hispanic-themed content out there, so you are certainly expanding the horizons here. I can't wait to make historic cities, little towns or historic downtowns with this set (a dream of mine would finally be fulfilled). :laugh:

This kind of content is what makes this game such a unique experience. Keep it up!

Felicitaciones y saludos desde México. :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: reddonquixote on July 03, 2015, 09:11:44 PM
I always nearly fall off my chair when I see the amount of work you put into these. Really excellent work  ;D
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: manga rivotra on July 04, 2015, 03:06:12 AM
I looked on all the translators on the Internet, but I wasn't able to find any word to say how much your work is accurate, realistic and incredibly BEAUTIFUL.  &apls &apls &apls
You are a true master, and now you have a new fan of your work  :)
So I have to Thank you, you make my day better  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on July 04, 2015, 08:06:46 AM
WOW!!!  :o People use the word "stunning" a lot, but this literally and genuinely is stunning.  It's beyond amazing to think that this is your first BAT project (unless I am mistaken?) &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: 11241036 on July 04, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
Wow, that's really gorgeous. It's also great to see how much effort you've put into your work to make your buildings slope-tolerant. And adding Sims to the backyards, that's also something I've always missed with most lots, be it by Maxis or custom developers. Already looking forward to its release :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on July 04, 2015, 03:20:46 PM
Not sure if I can find any words that hasn't been used in this thread.

So will use CPs word: This "genuinely is stunning"


Looking forward to see this used in MDs.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: FlyHigh on July 07, 2015, 07:23:34 AM
Your textures look quite in-line with SimCity 3k's and early 2000's graphics. How are you rendering the models?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on July 07, 2015, 08:40:29 AM
Have I mentioned how much I'm looking forward to using these amazing props?   :thumbsup:
The night views look especially neat with those light cones... almost like we've been taken back to another time.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: FrankU on July 08, 2015, 11:38:48 AM
Hi romualdillo,

I forgot to watch your progress for a while. Not becaue I disliked the results, but because, well, I am not really interested in the type of buildings you were making. It's just that they are not my style and I will probably never use them. Nontheless I always thought they were and are gorgeous.
But now I saw all the small backyard props like the laundry lines, the sheds, greenhouses and all your flower beds. They are fantastic! They are great! Amazing.... Sorry. I just let myself go.

No really. I agree wit the others.

I have one request.... Another one you say? Yes, everyone always has requests. When you show something there is always someone who has another idea. And if you like the idea you even might use it. So that is totally up to you.

My request would be: could you make the flower beds without the planters? In that case I might use them for making a set of flower farm fields. Especially if you could add some shrubs without the blossoms, because then I could make them seasonal.

Frank
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on July 08, 2015, 02:01:07 PM
It's just amazing how well this has all come together and how great a job you've done on all the details. I'm super-happy for you being able to get such an enormous project to the point that it is today--it's an incredible accomplishment  :o
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Unconstantean on July 09, 2015, 02:55:23 AM
wow, jus wow  :o
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on July 14, 2015, 05:37:30 AM
 :o How many comments!!! I'll need some time to answer all of them!!  :D

art128: Thank you!!!

carlfatal: Thank you!! I hope so!  ;D

kelis: Thank you!! Well, a project like this is never finished, but I think (and hope) I've finished the R$ set.

Edvarz: Thank you!! I started BATting because I wanted to have this kind of low-density urban houses, and there were only a few on the internet. I tried to do them as international as possible, I mean, do them so they could match all the Spanish-speaking countries.

reddonquixote: Thank you!!!

manga rivotra: Thank you!!! You're too kind!!  :D

c.p: Thank you!!! Yes, this is my first BAT project, but it has taken more than a year to complete, and I had a lot of help from the other members of the community. If you look my first posts, you'll see the evolution of my work, and how much the comments have helped.

11241036: Thank you!!! I hope it's soon available!!!

vester: Thank you!!!

FlyHigh: I make the models with sketch-up and the textures with photoshop. Then I render the models with the old gmax, so the textures look not so neat as the 3dsmax ones. I tried to render my models with it, but my computer was too slow to run the program with high-poly models.

Simcoug: Thank you!! Hmm, I think you've mentioned it once or twice, but I'm not sure...  :P The light cones look fantastic, but that's Maarten's (Mandelsoft) work. They match perfectly with the atmosphere I'm trying to reproduce.

FrankU: Thank you!!! I'm glad you like the props, and I'll add the plants and orchards without planters to the set (That's what I've been doing lately). I hope you like them, and I'm sure you'll put them in good use.

noahclem: Thank you!!!

Unconstantean: Thank you!!!

As I said before, I want to thank you all for all your help and advice. Sometimes it was a bit frustrating to repeat everything so many times, but I really think that the result worth it:

From this:
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To this:
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Now, as always, I'll need your help to solve some questions:

1. My first prop pack will have a dependency (Girafe's cypresses). I think it's not normal, but I had to create my own props with his models to add them to my families. Other thing I have to comment is that I've modded my tree props to reduce pollution (-1 air pollution, 5 tiles radius. I tried to do the same with the water pollution, but sparkles appeared).

2. I think I need testers. There are a lot of props, and perhaps I've missed something. If someone is interested please send me a P.M. with your e-mail, and I'll send you the prop pack and the lots via wetransfer (simple version, without street props).

3. I'm sure I'll need help to upload the archives. I don't know if an install.exe is necessary, but I've never done something like that. Any kind of help or piece of advice about that will be welcomed.

And I think that's all...

I've been improving the textures of the R$$ houses. The red and green houses in the middle have new roof tiles and facades. I hope you like them!!

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on July 14, 2015, 10:09:43 AM
The difference between your early models and what you finally arrived at is amazing!  This project has come a long, long way and you should be really proud of the final result  :thumbsup:
For question #1, its not common, but it's not unheard of either.  Creating new prop exemplars to include prop families is something I have done on a number of occasions.  As long as you still cite the original models as a dependency you will be fine.  As for the pollution reducing properties, I think that is also quite common (I know Maxis trees fall in that category).
Regarding an upload, I don't believe installers are required and I would actually prefer just a standard zip file.  Just my 2 cents. 
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: FrankU on July 14, 2015, 11:56:44 AM
Hi romualdillo,

Yes, I agree with Simcoug. Your work has become outstanding.

And to add to the question #1: in the past I also created a lot of props in order to be able to put them into prop families. You can download these from the STEX, but I am using them less and less. There is a technique that takes a bit more time, but is more versatile: the prop variation technique. You can read about it in this (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=5350.0) tutorial by Smoncrie.
In the beginning it looks like a lot of work, but if you make a list of props you use more often it can become very versatile and quick... and you can vary on every instance... and you do not need extra prop exemplars... and.... you don't need to ask for a prop family range. Lots of advantages!

Question #2: Sorry, but I don't have time to test for you.

Question #3: Uploading is not very difficult. But one thing: please add one or two nice images. Either in the readme or as separate files. Especially on the STEX I see a lot of (mostly older) uploads without any images. Hard to say what it contains once the file is on my disk....
And an installer? I never make one. Better not!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on July 14, 2015, 12:49:59 PM
Indeed that's quite some fantastic progress between the result now and when you first started. You've come a long way. :)

For your questions I'll just answer the n°3. Making an installer really depends on if you want one or not. IMO they're not worth the time and effort taken to create them and most of the time it's way easier to install something without an installer than with. I'm personally against them.
As FrankU said, for the upload include several pictures of the content, it'll help a lot.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: 11241036 on July 14, 2015, 10:13:19 PM
Great progress, it has been a pleasure to watch it so far :)

As for your questions:

#1: Looks like FrankU's suggestion is quite a good alternative to prop families, there's nothing that I could add. Unfortunately, I also can't help you with the sparkles issue.
#2: Please check your PM's a little later.
#3: I also wouldn't bother if you upload just a .zip-file.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: seraf on July 21, 2015, 07:59:29 AM
It's amazing what you achieved :) One can build a neighborhood using just your BATs :) And the BATs themselves are very nicely done  &apls  &apls  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on July 22, 2015, 07:18:10 AM
Really nice to see the comparison pics, you improved a lot (understatement of the year  :D). As for your questions:

1) iirc a missing prop in a family simply won't get picked by the game, so I would list Girafe's pine as a dependency to the lots themselves, instead of a dependency to the proppack. Or alternatively, in case I'm mistaken, you could include the family exemplars with the lots, and have the prop exemplars for the single props in the pack.

2) I don't mind have a look over the lots & props. Also, please do include the street props in your pack!  ;)

3) a zip file is just fine.

Lastly: two story buildings!  :bnn:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: belfastsocrates on July 22, 2015, 07:44:16 AM
I love the new models, the green framed enclosed veranda/porch is just lovely!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on July 23, 2015, 03:56:04 AM
What should I say? I liked this project from beginning on, and the result is simply outstanding.  &apls &apls &apls

To your questions: The first one seems to be obsolete - one dependency, especially such a common one shouldn´t be a problem. Testing - well I am playing in software modus on a very slow machine. I don´t think, I would be the right one. And yes, I am also happy with a simple zip. Installers are overrated...  :D

Well done, sets like this will help to keep SC4 alive!  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: reddonquixote on July 24, 2015, 01:14:41 AM
Loving the night windows. All the houses look so cosy  ;D
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on July 24, 2015, 11:57:15 AM
Thanks to all for the nice comments!!!

Well, finally I can announce that my buildings have been uploaded to the LEX. Thanks to all for your help and support! It's been a long way, but we've arrived home!! 

:bnn:  :bnn:
(I hope everything works fine!!!)

If you find any issue, please contact me. My acknowledgements to 11241036, who was so kind to test the props and lots.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: manga rivotra on July 24, 2015, 12:02:51 PM
This is AWESOME, THANKS YOU SO MUCH  :bnn: :bnn: :bnn:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on July 24, 2015, 01:58:51 PM
Thank you manga rivotra!!!

I was so excited by the uploading that I couldn't wait to post the rest of things I've been doing  :P :

First the R$$ houses. If everything looks OK I'll start with the corner versions:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F368%2520Casas2_zpsirmdatsh.jpg&hash=3f2ca6177e88533074854755bd35166abedefcbf)

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Next, a new building I've been modelling lately:

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It's a small market building (1x3 lot). It's based on the market building in Santoña, Cantabria, Spain. I think I'm going to mod it as a ploppable CS$. What do you think?

And, I haven't forgotten this:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F379%2520Beti-Jai_zpsie6kmpmq.jpg&hash=8dc6678c79c5f927aa4c3e0956d5383a47346059)

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It's huge, and it needs a lot of time.

I hope you like everything!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: GameFrog on July 25, 2015, 06:42:23 AM
Awesome!  &apls I was looking for something like this as I am working in a mediterranean-iberian city, and I feel that this buildings will help me to get rid of several low density areas. Those R$$ and the market look as good as your R$ buildings. And the last project... Is it a town hall, isn't it? Beautiful theatre  :P

Mi inglés no es el mejor del mundo...  ;D Sigue así! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on July 25, 2015, 06:49:51 AM
First a huge thank you for the first set!   &apls

And yeah, I remember the old abandoned theatre! What happened in the meantime? Will this building be saved and reactivated? Also the market building looks interesting with all the substructures.
Keep up your awesome work!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on July 26, 2015, 12:11:29 PM
Congratualtions on completing your big set.  It's quite an accomplishment! &apls

Your new stuff looks great :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: TheTeaCat on July 26, 2015, 01:10:58 PM
A truly outstanding first upload to the LEX! Congratulations on producing such quality work  &apls &apls

I am well impressed!!
TTC
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on July 27, 2015, 06:19:29 AM
Congrats on the R$ release!   &apls  :bnn:  &dance %BUd%

And the 2 story R$$ are shaping up beautifully!  The details on the front facade are mesmerizing  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Kergelen on July 27, 2015, 12:33:18 PM
Congrats on finish your first release. &apls &apls

Great quality and very varied set! Looking forward to the R$$. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on July 27, 2015, 03:52:04 PM
Not sure what to do beside get in-line:


&apls &apls &apls

One small question. Your bats how bi are they ? Wondering how far its set back from the lot bordery is your bats ?

Might take up some old w2w's....!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on July 28, 2015, 01:03:20 PM
Thank you all for your nice comments!!!!  :thumbsup:

carlfatal: Sadly the building is still abandoned. There are plans to rebuild it, but there is nothing definitive by now.

vester: I'll try to answer your question.

The models are 8x24m (perhaps a bit longer or shorter, it depends on the model). The basements are longer due to the stairs.

The LOD boxes are bigger. They're 1m longer to the front and 2m longer to the back. As they're slope friendly, the LOD box has to be bigger than the model to prevent the building of getting half buried by the slope. I raise the building half meter (0,5 x 1,33) from the ground level for the same purpose. The basements are different: the LOD boxes need to be exactly the same size and shape as the model, because it "touches" the ground.
Aaron Graham (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=12670.20) explains it perfectly.

Perhaps the prop size is the most important thing. If the prop size is bigger than the lot, the model won't light up. I always change the prop size to 6x6x6 or even smaller if I need to. Then you can put them almost everywhere without any problem. In this case the props are overhanging props, the LOD gets out of the lot (facades, stairs...), but the prop's shape doesn't, and everyhing works fine.

I hope it helps...  ;) I learnt all this from c.p., he's the expert. 
You can look at his thread Creating a Single Prop from Multiple Models (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=16509.0), to see how the buildings an the basements are put together.

Now the Market Hall:

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I don't know why, but the lights are projected only on one side of the building. I think it has to do with gmax way of rendering. Should I take out the interior lights? The building looks a bit strange this way, but I don't know how to solve it. The building looks exactly the same in both sides. Materials and faces are the same too.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on July 28, 2015, 03:53:49 PM
Have you tried to merge the model into a new file ?

For some strange reason, this helps on a lot of the not so easy explained problems.

Love your market.
Maybe a time version of this, with the doors open at daytime ?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: manga rivotra on July 29, 2015, 08:33:37 AM
One again your model is perfect  &apls &apls &apls.
Ironworks are extraordinarily reproduced, specially the motive for the central gate. :)
Could you please, make one or two additionals versions with different colors, because there isn't a lot of market in the game yet ?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on July 29, 2015, 11:34:42 AM
Bit late to the party but huge congrats on the release!!  &apls

Finally had chance to load it in SC4PIM today. So. Many. Garden. Props.  :o  %BUd%

Even though I followed development closely the level of awesomeness of unique models x variety + foundations didn't quite register until now. +1  :thumbsup:

As for the latest addition, the market hall is very nice indeed. Though I can't help but wonder how a larger variant would look. .  ::)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: seraf on July 29, 2015, 07:20:54 PM
The Market Hall looks great, the only thing I would consider doing would be removal of one of the cupolas and transforming that side of the building into something like service entrance. But that's just a suggestion, it looks very nice anyway! :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on July 30, 2015, 03:08:02 PM
vester: I tried, but I had to change the lights in the end. Thank you for your advice. And about the door, well, wait and see...  ;)

manga rivotra: Thank you!! I plan to do other versions, and upload everything in the next release, if I forget how much time it needed to render...  :D

vortext: Thank you!!! And thanks for the K-point!! I don't plan to do a bigger version, but there are plenty of bigger market halls in Spain I may reproduce...  ::)

seraf: Thank you!! Well, the small doors are already service entrances. The real building is really small and simple, and has no service areas.

Well, as I said I changed the lights, changed the glass transparency and reflection of the glass canopy, made a timed prop, and put it in a "friendly" environment. I hope you like it!!!:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F385%2520Mercado_zpsplck02tf.jpg&hash=b326c2f6a6128dbc36854845eee7629dcdc43759)

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on August 11, 2015, 04:39:25 AM
The market hall is absolutely wonderful. And together with the other buildings... a sensation!   &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: reddonquixote on August 11, 2015, 05:23:53 AM
Wow I really love those entrance turrets with the cupolas.. very nice work my friend  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on August 11, 2015, 05:32:07 AM
Wonderful work on the market. :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: FrankU on August 11, 2015, 06:12:40 AM
Wow! This is a great model. Wonderful detail and textures.  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on August 11, 2015, 12:19:48 PM
The market looks outstanding in-game :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Vizoria on August 11, 2015, 12:52:09 PM
The market hall BAT looks incredibly, extremely vivid; eye-popping even. Good stuff.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: JP Schriefer on August 11, 2015, 03:24:08 PM
Wonderful models you did and you do, I was looking your thread now, very good works indeed!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on August 13, 2015, 01:09:24 PM
Thanks to all for your comments!!

Well, this is an awkward update, because I discovered some nonworking semi-seasonal props in my prop pack. I've corrected the files, and re-uploaded the prop pack by editing the previous one. I don't know if that's the way to do it.

The nonworking props were those orchards and plants without planters FrankU asked for, so they didn't affect the lots, and that's why I didn't notice the fail before. I was thinking that everything was too good to be true... I think everything will work properly now.

I'm sorry!!!!  &ops

The props:

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on August 19, 2015, 11:26:03 AM
After the props' crisis, a normal update:

First of all, thanks to art128 for the K-point!!!!

Now 4 new buildings: 2 corners and 2 corner fillers (and their mirror versions).

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F390%2520Casas_zpsnf1wuomb.jpg&hash=0b6919f9e4806140c277f893fea6d6d950000e27)

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I hope you like them!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on August 19, 2015, 12:22:30 PM
Quote from: romualdillo on August 19, 2015, 11:26:03 AM
I hope you like them!!!

Yes, yes I do!
:clap:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on August 19, 2015, 12:33:40 PM
Like them? Love them!  :thumbsup:

These corner buildings are simply wonderful, and your ingame pictures look incredible realistic.  &apls &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: manga rivotra on August 19, 2015, 01:55:57 PM
This is really perfect again  &apls &apls &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: 11241036 on August 19, 2015, 02:43:02 PM
Very fantastic work again :) I'm also pleased that you've thought of including mirrored versions of your corner buildings (that's something many BATters don't think of, and it is annoying sometimes). Also, very fine night shots, I'm usually having always day in SC4, but your pictures make me reconsider.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Bipin on August 19, 2015, 06:34:10 PM
This is really coming together. Spectacular work.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on August 20, 2015, 02:13:05 AM
Another set of great bats  &apls



Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: reddonquixote on August 20, 2015, 02:29:40 AM
Agreed, more lovely little buildings  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on August 20, 2015, 02:56:11 AM
Beautiful. And the scenes are once more fantastic. 
Just an advice I can give you, at night try to turn off the shadows, you'll see the result will be better.  ;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: JP Schriefer on August 20, 2015, 12:05:28 PM
Wow, that's amazing!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on August 23, 2015, 12:23:25 PM
Thank you all for the nice comments!!!

art128: I was going to ask you how to turn off the shadows, but finally I found how to change the Graphics Rules.sgr file. I also found that the lights look much better in the windowed mode, but it's a nightmare to play with the 800x600 resolution. Higher resolutions don't fit my laptop's screen, so I'll keep using the fullscreen mode.

A new building: The R$$ version of a R$ house.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F396%2520Casas_zpsp47jttws.jpg&hash=e4a00f229db1a1d99b116730658cb9a2e4339c44)

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I hope you like it!!

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: mrbisonm on August 23, 2015, 03:18:30 PM
Yap....I like it!! Great little townhouses, I am sure we all can use them somehow, even myself, although I am in NA (NorthAmerica)

Great!!! Wonderful details and super observation from your behalf.

Fred
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on August 26, 2015, 02:00:26 PM
Just wow! :o
The texturing and detail work is perfect as far as I can see. &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: JP Schriefer on August 26, 2015, 03:53:20 PM
I'm going to make a city with this style soon, these models will help me a lot!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on August 27, 2015, 06:20:29 AM
 &apls
Love the night scenes  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on August 27, 2015, 07:03:29 AM
The pictures are just wonderful!  :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on August 27, 2015, 03:21:00 PM
Thank you guys!!!

I was a bit tired of modelling buildings, so I started with the automatas again. I wasn't happy with the previous model, the proportions were wrong and it looked too flat (like all the other maxis vehicles), so I downloaded a Ford T blueprint and changed them. I also changed the z-Axis scale to 1,33 (it looks much better in-game).

Consider that it's not finished yet, texturing it's not easy and the driver is a nightmare. Please, let me know your opinion. (402 polys)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0400%2520Coche_zpspsmkgkjx.jpg&hash=e157b7f4e19702cd3dfc5dd0611abfed81960061)

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The model is similar to this one:

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on August 27, 2015, 06:09:46 PM
You are crazy!  $%Grinno$%
I have no clue, where you will lead us to, but I am sure, we will follow with big eyes and open mouths. This model is such a cutie and it looks so inviting for a nice little tour. Totally wowed...  &apls &apls &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: seraf on August 28, 2015, 12:01:11 AM
Great work on the buildings :) As for the car - previous model already looked good, this one looks great, nice work! :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on August 28, 2015, 06:38:04 AM
So awesome!!  Amazing work on the model T - I can't wait to play around with these beauties :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: JP Schriefer on August 28, 2015, 08:31:48 AM
Very good work, the car looks awesome! Would you consider it as mmp as well? :P
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Girafe on August 28, 2015, 09:02:57 AM
looks nice and well detailed  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on August 28, 2015, 01:34:15 PM
Beautiful work  &apls  New proportions are a nice improvement I think. I finally got the time to really play SC4 recently and can't wait to use your bats!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: deora on August 29, 2015, 04:52:24 AM
So,you are doing Cars now?
Well in that case.... (puts on reading Glasses and unfolds a huge Scroll of Paper filled with wanted Cars for SC 4) :D

No seriously,your Model looks mindblowing.I instantly want to take this Ride for a little Tour through my SC 4 New York...and using the Cars Horn just to make me giggle because of the Model T Horn Sound....arrruhr...
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: reddonquixote on August 30, 2015, 05:49:22 AM
Sorry, no good, I can't see any tufting in the seat  :D

This is really amazing work, very cute little model car  &apls

and I missed commenting your your previous update, those little row houses are beautiful, excellent details and the night lights are looking really nice as well  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on August 30, 2015, 02:00:57 PM
Could you post a old and new model picture ?

Would love to see the model in a few colors, the red and blue in your last picture, maybe a black and a cream (just guessing that it was sold in that color)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on September 01, 2015, 02:51:48 PM
carlfatal: Thank you!! Well, I hope this leads to somewhere between 1910 and 1914.  :D

seraf: Thank you!!  :D

Simcoug: Thank you!!  :D

Schriefer: Thank you!! I was going to do them as props too, but I hadn't thought about doing them as mmp. Let's see.  :thumbsup:

Girafe: Thank you!!  :D

noahclem: Thank you!! :D

deora: Thank you!! Yes, I'm doing some cars, and I accept suggestions for veteran ones, if you're interested.

reddonquixote:  ::)

vester:
Older models and their colours... I prefer the new one much more.

Green:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0302%2520Coche_zpseusabalf.jpg&hash=290e891a9a1fa3aa0ba11b236fbaa84eac88ad8b)

Red (edit: I forgot this):
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Blue:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0305%2520Coche_zpsbs5idad6.jpg&hash=bdd98c306e65a1b7c148cb373556b3acab2eff9c)

Dark Green:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0307%2520Coche_zps0vmmp612.jpg&hash=52561e96375b268342bc5911b524c6afeb756050)

Black:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0306%2520Coche_zpsjdncg888.jpg&hash=813584fece0008b327dfc2c2603f12dd91239231)

Brown-Cream:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0304%2520Coche_zpsokvmm0lo.jpg&hash=aebba0b11a4f54e12d8eba128db20e40168a4354)

New model, total poly count 388 (not that much):

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0402%2520Coche_zps3f6sqvpj.jpg&hash=bcc094d91c02afc0c054ff74ad435b02b7f732b1)

Yes, reddonquixote, now with tufting. I was thinking if it was necessary, but now I HAD to put it.  :P

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0403%2520Coche_zpsjh150nto.jpg&hash=8a3500b321a3093d5333cd4140ef5894d440778f)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0404%2520Coche_zpsuzzehhhx.jpg&hash=b9b45c6199a3ecabaca181d873422e95e7e6764f)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0405%2520Coche_zpsmnmndpxy.jpg&hash=9ec7a41cf30493eff498c4ae2719706c97c6c10a)

It is an override mod, so I'm having problems with the lights. The lights here are from the overridden model, and not of the new car. Does anybody know how to solve this? The TGI numbers are exactly the same, everything seems to be OK, and I don't know what to do...

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0406%2520Coche_zps2vuvka7p.jpg&hash=5c063f0d6a4cda60e04b8b968d3aa1fb25d22153)

I hope you like it!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on September 01, 2015, 02:58:34 PM
The car looks beautiful :thumbsup:  My first impression though is the new model seems a little too vertically stretched.  I wonder if it would be better if stretched 1.25 instead of 1.33?  The more I look at it it seems fine, so maybe not worth trying if it is difficult to do. &mmm
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Unconstantean on September 02, 2015, 07:27:58 AM
amazing talent !!!

what about a red version of the Ford.  ;D
and yes a car list :D a huge one filled with vintage cars :D

"$Deal"$
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: manga rivotra on September 02, 2015, 02:31:02 PM
We know that you used to do perfect buildings, and now i see that you can make perfect car.........
So I can say only one thing : Please never stop!  ;D
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: kelis on September 03, 2015, 01:23:52 PM
I like how the car looks in your pictures but actually I HATE this car, I'm making a Japanese region and I hate to see this car every time that I play...Is possible to delete this car ?

Thanks and keep up the good work AMIGO  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on September 03, 2015, 02:03:41 PM
Thank you guys!!!!  :D

c.p.: I think I'm going to let it as it is by now. There's always time to change it.  :)

kelis: Well, I got this car in a bonus CD when I purchased the game. The car is located in the file "Plugin_007_AirForceBase.dat". It should be in a folder called "plugins" in the SimCity 4 folder of your "Program Files". It works like the other "plugins" folder in "my documents". Just delete the exemplar file of the car with the Reader. I hope it helps!!!  ;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: seraf on September 03, 2015, 05:06:20 PM
Looks beautiful  &apls

I can only hope you will make some of my favorite cars too someday   ;D
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: reddonquixote on September 04, 2015, 05:28:41 AM
Ah, yes beautiful tufting. Now it's 200% perfect  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on September 04, 2015, 06:24:01 AM
Wonderful - I love the red color.  I hope you will be releasing these as props too  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on September 04, 2015, 06:42:48 AM
Impressive models. :)

Agree with Simcoug about the props.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: JP Schriefer on September 04, 2015, 02:05:00 PM
That's very nice! I just realized now there's a driver inside it!! Amazing :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on September 09, 2015, 05:25:41 AM
I am out of words now... And yeah, the timeline is perfect, I would love to see much more beauties matching it like steam ships and locomotives and...

But for now this little beauty is like your buildings an eyecatcher. And like manga rivotra I only can say: please don´t stop!  :thumbsup:

Btw: thanks for the hint with the car in the maxis files. I had the same problem like kelis, and now it´s gone.  :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Dantes on September 16, 2015, 02:10:08 PM
Romualdillo, Congratulations on completing the first big project. (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2F40f01b7e4ddd8334cc44ff78d241568d.gif&hash=2fdc3e02a342f0773a130c4fb79664c9448adfdb)
Your W2W houses are sure to be popular. I am curious about the first MD. (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2F31fcecdf19b314863ecc989134f51918.gif&hash=5e9554d1c994e0da39a430c935a60130c93952b0) Your Market Hall is awesome! I love this Architecture!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on October 20, 2015, 03:48:48 PM
seraf: Thank you!! Well, doing cars is not very easy for me, but I'm trying...  :D

reddonquixote: Thank you!!!  :D

Simcoug & art128: Thank you both!!! And yes, I plan to release them as props, too.  ::)

Schriefer: Thank you!!  :D And he wasn't easy to texture...

carlfatal: Thank you!! I'm glad I could help...  :thumbsup:

Dantes: Thank you!! The market hall will be included in the next release!! I'm sorry but I haven't developed any proper city with this kind of buildings...  :-[  I still have a lot of projects in mind, and too little time free!!

Well, I think I haven't updated for ages. I'm quite busy now, and I have too little time for my stuff, but I'm still working on my buildings...

First of all, I'm sorry because I think I invaded foreign territories with my new building, but I saw it on the Internet, and I couldn't resist... So I solemnly declare New Zealand as part of the Spanish Empire, hopefully only for my purposes... This is my version of Ponsonby's Old Fire Station.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0412%2520Bomberos_zpsxoc1oxjv.jpg&hash=d3ace2ac1671e232331999a1b114cd99e8a582e0)

I was looking for old fire stations in Spain or other countries, but I couldn't find any I liked, so I did this. When I finished the model I found almost three Spanish fire stations that I could have done  :'(... But this is the first I'm going to release, just because it's finished. I adapted the model to match the 16x16m grid, the style of my other buildings, and different locations.

Other views:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0413%2520Bomberos_zpsufwwy790.jpg&hash=0bb98e4bfbf761c454e9d43d487dc32d585e1569)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0414%2520Bomberos_zps7i0s73ih.jpg&hash=e716b725a6e616b545a70701841fed89be1a8097)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0415%2520Bomberos_zpswxk2lat6.jpg&hash=edab34f8a4671d6ad0f2a83357d30645a8d5de43)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0416%2520Bomberos_zpskp2nikep.jpg&hash=63ce2caacd9c4ccdda056b01bdd5b6228422b562)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0417%2520Bomberos_zpsqucwjomp.jpg&hash=604242176cdc56ff375fc9cd1bb98dffd221daa2)

Still working on the houses. These are other versions of previously uploaded houses...

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0418%2520Casas_zps5mmjrjbd.jpg&hash=00b23edaac3365695a904e830a0ac4043b06c7da)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0419%2520Casas_zps1u6ee87q.jpg&hash=211ea49fa9ceb07f4977b98defac26b2dc0b5527)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0420%2520Casas_zpsv1cpkjij.jpg&hash=ece6d80cee1db5135cc2c8ae542509ba35b55264)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0421%2520Casas_zpsu308zbvc.jpg&hash=8804062e2326a7b992c3baf2ccc186748a5bf0b1)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0422%2520Casas_zps124crcko.jpg&hash=d053ae29cf92c73f46a07604a06248dd8dd70637)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0423%2520Casas_zpshyz60yqx.jpg&hash=36cd8dfdf89ab8a67868ed5cd43bdcf8b31d63c2)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0424%2520Casas_zpsp9s0rwxe.jpg&hash=5906331a35a2829c6fd8ec17b998c5cbaf66e5bb)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0425%2520Casas_zpspft51wjn.jpg&hash=bc9275a8d71251b691a36d88b451f7599e29395e)

Now a new version of the Ford Model T. Here the driver is more visible...  ;D, and the tufting...  :D

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0407%2520Coche_zpse5uhzitl.jpg&hash=c1f4a2152557948c3de0ed96197745e877e15f95)

As always, I can't make the nightlights to work... If someone knows how to solve the issue, please help me!!! The model has the same TGI numbers as the overridden one, but that doesn't do anything.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0408%2520Coche_zpszwwxg6ts.jpg&hash=ebfd6c66408a8547055f4c4b88a12cc53afdbf25)

If you look carefully this image you can see somehing in the interior:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0415%2520Bomberos_zpswxk2lat6.jpg&hash=edab34f8a4671d6ad0f2a83357d30645a8d5de43)

And yes... I've done a Model T based fire engine... with my own textures... terrible... But it's finished now!!!  ()stsfd() It's a bit small compared with newer ones, but it's what they had at that time!!!

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0409%2520Coche_zpsf8cjhl2i.jpg&hash=cbbe1fa7e0c555a47ee281964c8723ae1b251403)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0410%2520Coche_zpsya6sa2bk.jpg&hash=fb2b756032d2939abacabcbabcebb32f28b55f69)

I just don't know why the emergency lights work, but the nightlights don't...

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0411%2520Coche_zpsgp8hxkci.jpg&hash=7cd12644210c59a6cba5b1c3f40e595e93e678a4)

Even the shadow looks strange, and it has the same texture and texture options as the others...

The models as props:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0426%2520Coches_zpsghxhtqzr.jpg&hash=b2fa76e5c350c197c292f891f074392d74e7dcc0)

There's nothing too new, but I hope you like everything!!! See you!!  ;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on October 21, 2015, 03:37:24 AM
As always some fantastic work. :)

Sorry I can't help you with the light problem... Hopefully someone with the knowledge will come.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Girafe on October 21, 2015, 04:18:09 AM
Automatas are really cute  :P

I think Vester can help with your probem  ::)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Dantes on October 21, 2015, 04:25:05 PM
Your fire station looks great. (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2F41a95e51a87450ddb7c574e7a5bb643b.gif&hash=25e5bf9c002fc793a3cfc6f2fa1b38b849dab7c4) Very impressive. I like the atmosphere of the building.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: reddonquixote on October 30, 2015, 11:53:23 PM
Another great update. I really like the end that you can see in the 3rd picture. Its very unusual architecture.. It looks like it belongs on an Asian or Middle Eastern building. You have recreated the building beautifully  &apls &apls &apls

I hope you get the lighting issue sorted out.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Unconstantean on October 31, 2015, 05:01:44 AM
amazing work  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: 11241036 on October 31, 2015, 06:25:04 AM
Again great work with the new buildings, especially the fire station. It's great to see some civic buildings matching the style of their surroundings, that's not something I'm seeing daily.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on November 02, 2015, 04:19:22 PM
art128: Thank you!!!

Girafe: Thank you!!! I think I'll have to bother him again with my automata's problems... I'm just waiting to do more automata to ask him about all the issues I may find. He has already helped me a lot with them.  :thumbsup:

Dantes: Thank you!!!

reddonquixote: Thank you!!! Well, about that end... I wouldn't have described it as Middle Eastern or Asian...  :P
I really found it very British because of its shape and the Scottish Thistles on both sides. I even thought about changing it, because I feared it wouldn't fit the style of the rest of the buildings. In the end I left it as it was, because it was part of the building, and the thistles would be too difficult to identify due to the scale. I think this kind of ends were very common in Tudor-Elisabethan architecture, like this in Kirby Hall, near Gretton, Northamptonshire, England.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.telegraph.co.uk%2Fmultimedia%2Farchive%2F03027%2Fkirbyhall_3027238b.jpg&hash=c851e1cc6dc74994d5f1ff3be229126e7ac07c3a)

And the fire station in Ponsonby, NZ.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F49.50.242.36%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2F1981-1990%2F1983_11_31.jpg&hash=af9cbfbf7511e89b496b1df4233705408b86075d)

Perhaps it may look strange on the 3rd photo, because it stands alone on a narrow wall, and that gives that Asian look you mentioned...  ;)

Unconstantean: Thank you!!!

11241036: Thank you!!!

Now a small update about what I've been working on lately:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0427%2520Policiacutea_zps4uaxtvqq.jpg&hash=af821302ec1ca43f8c2f2f4769abe61111df42f6)

It's based on the police station in General Rodríguez, Buenos Aires Province, Argentina. I hope you like it!!! 
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: manga rivotra on November 02, 2015, 04:32:31 PM
As usual, a magnificent work and a real pleasure to look  &apls &apls &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on November 03, 2015, 06:42:14 AM
Details seem to be really well done. Looking forward to see it in the BAT.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on November 03, 2015, 11:13:17 AM
Been a while since I last stopped by, pleased to see you're still working on that lovely T-ford model, with a fire engine model no less. And equally great work with the building variants, this corner building (http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y437/romualdillo/0418%20Casas_zps5mmjrjbd.jpg) in particular is very nice.  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Dantes on November 04, 2015, 01:47:48 AM
Yeah, an blue police station. I missed a sign with name "La policía"  :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on November 04, 2015, 06:21:45 AM
 :popcorn:

who needs the movies when you have this thread to watch?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on November 08, 2015, 11:59:49 AM
manga rivotra: Thank you!!!!

art128: Thank you!!!! Still working on the details.  :thumbsup:

vortext: Thank you!!! It's my favourite, too!!

Dantes: Thank you!!! It has a sign now, but it doesn't say exactly "La Policía"...  :D

Simcoug: Thank you!!!

A new little update, still some details missing...

Front side:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0428%2520Policiacutea_zpsvdtiuhqq.jpg&hash=e96e6c73b9e21ffd8e499e9fb5fd5f5d1316dd11)

Roof perspective (I was tired of doing tiles):

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0429%2520Policiacutea_zpsmjlbggmp.jpg&hash=a59497dc2d0579250347fcf6895607ec7d36dce9)

Back side:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0430%2520Policiacutea_zpsodbsmxpo.jpg&hash=ca137e00e433fdae1092fcf8d1642b516e13a415)

I hope you like it!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: JP Schriefer on November 08, 2015, 03:02:31 PM
Very good model you're doing.
Any news about those cute and wonderful houses? *_*
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on November 08, 2015, 09:37:44 PM
Nice building and great detail work, as always &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Dantes on November 10, 2015, 11:42:11 AM
I think this letters be greek oder latin ? 
I read tasty "Paella" (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2F54eda9ee4ab48324764478e294fe16a7.gif&hash=72ebdcbcd6fb3bb934271506366cf9c5544ec97f)

The building looks great!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: mattb325 on November 10, 2015, 05:09:04 PM
Just beautiful! I love all of the little details  :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on November 11, 2015, 08:34:22 AM
lovely modeling!  It strikes me as a very regal looking building - very classical too.  Can't wait to see some in-game shots  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on November 11, 2015, 04:50:50 PM
Schriefer: Thank you!!! Yes I'm working on them. The next update will be a house.  ;)

c.p.: Thank you!!!

Dantes: Thank you!!! Well, neither of them... It's supposed to be Simlish. I prefer using it instead of any recognizable alphabet...   :P

mattb325: Thank you!!!

Simcoug: Thank you!!! Here you are...  :D

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0431%2520Policiacutea_zpsbgnzzduz.jpg&hash=843f910269e6bfa1b71d9d5f3fc30630a57d4362)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0432%2520Policiacutea_zpsal76ynid.jpg&hash=a385d0ddcb1d94f811c4d80486fb3ad8458fac25)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0433%2520Policiacutea_zpsfvyxpjhn.jpg&hash=40b4ce375fc3883f0149714c4add4ff53afcece7)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0434%2520Policiacutea_zpsuqh4ze9f.jpg&hash=9343f10940d71f326fb2c67169d2ce75b5e3f73b)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0435%2520Policiacutea_zpsrrs3tsyc.jpg&hash=97ee74e3e14d1f9e92e03c4c507a45b5033de850)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0436%2520Policiacutea_zpsdhydjt3t.jpg&hash=39fc87d077a68bbb4b32d2b3dbaafd4fdafc5166)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0437%2520Policiacutea_zpsg7gceqxy.jpg&hash=9b3682f988a5f3c33a5d7581c5cc71f71fcbc616)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0438%2520Policiacutea_zpsxgrsqspi.jpg&hash=565f3008a1d66c8201527755c088cece0fdb4047)

I hope you like it!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on November 11, 2015, 10:16:39 PM
Superb!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Dantes on November 12, 2015, 03:54:18 AM
Great police station! (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2Fe03820ca109c4c698e0ec09bd238a35e.gif&hash=efaf62d8571d582729d35e4b4b2a85754f3e7279) I'm curious to see how an entire city looks like in your architecture. Just as with the Paris pack or Machiya it will be an urban feel with a unique atmosphere.  ;D

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: manga rivotra on November 12, 2015, 04:13:31 AM
Again a great building ! I love the transparency of the glass roof and the fact that the inside is visible  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on November 12, 2015, 07:56:51 AM
Wonderful!  And great nightlights!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: SuperMessi on November 12, 2015, 11:15:07 AM
They look good Romualdillo. I have a doubt: do you try to resemble a mexican architectural style with them? I ask you this because I think they will also look nice on european cities...
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Kergelen on November 12, 2015, 11:43:52 AM
Great quality work you have done!
I really like the w2w 2 floor buldings. I'll use for sure in my cities. Like the textures and ammount of details. &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Tyberius06 on November 12, 2015, 01:12:56 PM
Very nice building! I love it!  :popcorn: &apls &apls

(Which kind of street is, what you're using on these pictures?)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on November 12, 2015, 01:38:19 PM
Wow, this is my first time seeing your recent work and I think I like it even more than your older stuff  :o  These will transform the whole feel of my African region!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: seraf on November 13, 2015, 05:00:52 AM
Oh this is very nice  :thumbsup: And let me tell you, this skylight looks very godd  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: reddonquixote on November 13, 2015, 11:39:51 AM
Wow, you've been busy, another great little gem  :thumbsup: Amazing detailing, I didn't realise you use sketch-up.

Regarding the roof detailing on the NZ police station, yeah I see it differently from those photographs. From the BAT scale and angle all those elements seemed to join up and looked a bit like a pagoda.  $%Grinno$%
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on November 13, 2015, 03:07:46 PM
Very nice.  The skylight is awesome :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: matias93 on November 13, 2015, 03:17:44 PM
Quote from: Dantes on November 12, 2015, 03:54:18 AM
Great police station! (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2Fe03820ca109c4c698e0ec09bd238a35e.gif&hash=efaf62d8571d582729d35e4b4b2a85754f3e7279) I'm curious to see how an entire city looks like in your architecture. Just as with the Paris pack or Machiya it will be an urban feel with a unique atmosphere.  ;D


Definitely, old photos of latin american cities would give you a overall impression:


(https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/q86/s720x720/11873522_530797903740614_925598347016307325_n.jpg?oh=4890220c8a97e45ee66ea34faf943832&oe=56B3E7F1)


(https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/11412118_499353906885014_6404264060370353289_n.jpg?oh=b99ea00e0d8516311bb4934bc9a0c237&oe=56B29C70)


(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arcondebuenosaires.com.ar%2Fcuriosidades-galera-tt.jpg&hash=5032fd7316b3e25a9f732aa4b2f63ddcc1d3c87b)



(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-oeJAWRvu87c%2FUPhrTd0KqWI%2FAAAAAAAAYOE%2FPHCoYXL5esI%2Fs1600%2F11%2B-%2BLa%2Bmisma%2Ba%2Bmediado%2Bdel%2Bsiglo%2BXX.jpg&hash=0144e38325b784722c7ebce56cd04c106ab68a75)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on November 16, 2015, 03:48:13 PM
art128: Thank you!!

Dantes. Thank you!! I think it's still too early to speak about an entire city... Let's go step by step, and we'll see what comes out finally...

manga rivotra: Thank you!!

Simcoug: Thank you!!

SuperMessi: Thank you!! Yes, and no... In fact, I try to create buildings in Spanish style that match any other Spanish-American country, as I noticed there was a lack of them in the community. I started modelling as a personal challenge, and because I wanted to use them in my region (which I've totally put aside :P).

Kergelen: Thank you!! I'll be glad to see them in your MDs.

Tyberius06: Thank you!! The street is a beta version of a great road mod vortext (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=15903.0) is developing, and hopefully he will release it when it's complete. He was very kind to lend it to me, because it matches the buildings perfectly.

noahclem: Thank you!! Well they were not intended for African regions, but I think you're right, and they could even fit in African colonial cities. I'm glad they can be used for other purpose.  ;D I'd like to see an update of your new region soon!

seraf: Thank you!!

reddonquixote: Thank you!! Yes, I use sketch-up, because it's much more intuitive and the buildings are much easier to texture. And yes, I recognize it looks a bit like a pagoda, perhaps I missed the proportions...  $%Grinno$%

c.p.: Thank you!!

matias93: The first picture of Valparaíso looks totally like a city in northern Spain. Santiago looks as a mix of Spain and Central Europe, and the other two (Buenos Aires and Tucuman?), could be anywhere in Southern Spain.

Now, as promised, a house. It's the corner version of the "Casa Neorrománica" (Neo-Romanesque House):

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0439%2520Casa_zpsj7dfqack.jpg&hash=00f3623a305472f37493115d7bad2b01feb334e2)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0440%2520Casa_zpseexhkba1.jpg&hash=2b1d8d194004957ba0c990b010eb7c4f5defaab7)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0441%2520Casa_zps2pwtknmt.jpg&hash=09b552cfaa10080f6d2c7ad1740b7670ee6ef8ee)

The corner was a challenge, but I'm quite satisfied with the result. I hope you like it!!










Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: reddonquixote on November 16, 2015, 11:21:04 PM
Sorry, no I don't like it.. I LOVE it  ;D Is this based on based on a real building? I think its stunning  &apls &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: kelis on November 17, 2015, 03:18:39 AM
Fantastic job amigo !!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on November 17, 2015, 06:37:58 AM
Amazing details as always, and the glass enclosed balcony is beautiful!   &apls
After looking at some of the neat photos that matias93 posted, a set of overhanging sign props would do wonders to liven up building facades.   ;) 
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Unconstantean on November 17, 2015, 10:09:44 AM
man you're amazing!!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on November 17, 2015, 11:43:25 AM
What an amazing model, can't wait to see it ingame!!  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: mattb325 on November 17, 2015, 12:04:08 PM
That corner house is stunning! I love the details on it as well as the tiled wall  :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: matias93 on November 17, 2015, 12:53:47 PM
Quote from: Simcoug on November 17, 2015, 06:37:58 AM
Amazing details as always, and the glass enclosed balcony is beautiful!   &apls
After looking at some of the neat photos that matias93 posted, a set of overhanging sign props would do wonders to liven up building facades.   ;)


And there are more from they have come:


(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4115/4825551832_013449065b_b.jpg)


Check at the facebook page https://www.facebook.com/FotosHistoricasDeChile (https://www.facebook.com/FotosHistoricasDeChile)


The hanging signs were mostly luminous (check at the light bulbs around the "Liquidación - Medias" sign), and persisted by several decades. Here, a photo of Santiago in the late 1970s:


(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F40.media.tumblr.com%2Fd546bdb8ca6d4d10cf38361681129012%2Ftumblr_mftd13lr8a1qg9gheo1_1280.jpg&hash=d27ced1631b0411b2bde5cdea4d51d1a6a59e31a)


Briefly after that, were banned, mainly because many people was injured by falling signs in the 1985 earthquake. Notwithstanding, some signs persist up to the actuality, mainly in old commercial streets:


(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1303.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag155%2Fmzmatnet%2Fsan%2520diego%2520172_zpsvkyqdshv.jpg&hash=ca208d0f5ee0faaa445e118ccd82130d1e959cb9)


Check it in Google Maps (https://www.google.cl/maps/@-33.4469883,-70.6511606,3a,75y,35.47h,104.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUhVSS2_5VbfduEOIWXwpLQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)


If I weren't sepulted in works for the end of semester, this would be a fair opportunity for learning to BAT this interesting props. I hope this references would help whoever tries to do that.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on November 18, 2015, 07:08:25 PM
Signs would be amazing... luminous signs would be amazing^10!

I wasn't sure where to put this, so I'll just drop it here because I think it is a problems specific to some of your props...
Any time I try to use one of your poster signs (whether it's using the prop family or just an individual prop) I get this error:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82314303/Photos/Misc%20Photos/Random%20SC4/loteditorerror.jpg)

Has anybody else had this issue?  I am using the SC4 PIM LE

I haven't tried it using the maxis LE, but I'd like to stick with the PIM LE, cause that's just me :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on November 19, 2015, 03:25:06 AM
Hm yes can confirm this issue with SC4PIM - though the props still do show up just fine ingame. I'm thinking the error is because the models have literally zero depth to them. If you try to create a building out of them the following error ensues:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "treeDnD.pyo", line 93, in OnData
  File "SC4PIMApp.pyo", line 2918, in OnDrop
  File "SC4PIMApp.pyo", line 2988, in CreateAnExamplar
  File "<string>", line 0, in ?
ZeroDivisionError: float division


Note the last line, zero division error. Changing the Occupant Size doesn't help either, it seems SC4PIM doesn't like models with no depth.

edit: so I just tried to scale up the depth with the ModelTweaker and that actually kinda worked - which makes no sense if you think about it since the models have zero depth to begin with. Anyway, with 'kinda worked' I mean the error disappeared, however, the models now showed up as blank, white panels. . . I'm guessing the only proper solution is to re-render the poster models with minimal depth to them.  &mmm
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on November 19, 2015, 07:02:50 AM
I confirm that the LOD box of these signs is only a shape without depth (2 triangles). I made it that way to reduce unnecessary polys (a simple box needs 12), and I thought there wouldn't be any problem. In fact, the Maxis LotEditor gives no error, but the SC4PIM does. And as vortext said, they show correctly in game.
I didn't notice this issue when locating the signs with the SC4PIM because I normally use a white simple box to introduce families correctly in place (I do the same with walls, houses, garden props etc, to ensure they all have the same insertion point). In this case I used a white box of 2,66m wide x 4m high x 0,15m depth as family seed. Obviously I didn't include the boxes in the prop pack, because they must be out of the plugins folder when playing the game.
When I opened any of the lots with the SC4PIM Editor, I noticed the error, but I couldn't identify what kind of error it was, because everything was showing correctly, even the signs.

So, what can you do:
Do the same as me, and locate the families with a white box.

What can I do:
Render everything again with LOD boxes instead of shapes, use the same TGI numbers and rebuild the prop pack. If you don't want to wait, you can use the first solution by now. I'll try to render everything again as fast as possible.

This prop pack is having more issues than I thought... I'm sorry!!!  ()sad()
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on November 19, 2015, 09:23:04 PM
I love all the details you put into Casa Neorrománica (especially the windows).  :thumbsup: It will be interesting to see how the curved balcony look in-game.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on November 20, 2015, 04:26:28 AM
Beautiful work with the Casa Neorrománica! I love the details and more corner buildings are always useful  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on November 26, 2015, 06:41:55 AM
Greetings to all!

I'm sorry I don't have any update, but I've been suffering from severe backaches during the last days, and I haven't been able to work on the signs lately. I'll try to finish them as soon as possible, but I'll have to build all the props again, as the new models are incompatible with the existent props... Please be patient! 
()sad()
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on November 26, 2015, 08:19:05 AM
No worries, your health is more important than a few props for a silly computer game. Hope you'll feel better soon!  :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Kergelen on November 26, 2015, 10:30:41 AM
Quote from: romualdillo on November 26, 2015, 06:41:55 AM
Please be patient!  ()sad()

Patience is a quality of SC4Devoters. Take care ;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: JP Schriefer on December 10, 2015, 09:29:20 PM
We can wait you be better, as Vortext said, your wealth is more important....but I still want those houses! *-*
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on December 11, 2015, 03:07:17 AM
Hope you get well soon.  :)


The best you can do, is to get moving, that at least is my experience. Start taking some short walks ect.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 11, 2015, 03:06:33 PM
Thank you for your comments, guys!! I'm much better now, but I still need some Physical Therapy sessions, and after them, I should start doing some light sport. But the most important thing is that I can sit in front of my computer again, and continue working...

The signs have been re-rendered, and now Simcoug is testing the prop-pack. He has some good ideas to improve it, so we'll work on them.

The Neo-Romanesque house is being developed, but it has so many details, that I get bored, and I start working on other things. Here's the progress:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0442%2520Casa_zpsx22fadua.jpg&hash=b937aac32142a80d011959690758404c30a15024)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0443%2520Casa_zpsnhqqbfxr.jpg&hash=9623816fd80f2323445c156494ba35fdfc493256)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0444%2520Casa_zpsbvspab3f.jpg&hash=2e6f53a1309034a11834eb3af1d2d6b8930e1cb5)

I hope you like it!!  ;)

Vortext's (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=15903.0) Diary inspired me to do some "medieval" experiments I had been thinking of.

I've started with this building. It was built as "Aula Palatina" (Throne Room) for king Ramiro I of Asturias, and finished in 842 as part of a palatial complex. It's the oldest standing civic building in Spain, and a World Heritage Monument. It became a church later, and it's known now as Santa María del Naranco. It was restored between 1929 and 1934. It's relatively small, only 6x21 meters, but after the Arabic invasion there wasn't much money to build grandiose buildings in the young kingdom.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0445%2520Santa%2520Mariacutea%2520del%2520Naranco_zpsre5oceio.jpg&hash=4e5ad8bc9a26a2332479746d1ba1bae54afe1c7e)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0446%2520Santa%2520Mariacutea%2520del%2520Naranco_zpskjfwybo9.jpg&hash=7fe8cbf337473fffde54f2f043a0e6fa204750fe)

I hope you like it!!!  (Still adapting the textures and colours)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on December 11, 2015, 03:31:55 PM
Sport has helped me with my back and not just once but several times it has proven to be the best medicine for my back problems.


Forgot to mention this in my last post: Some GREAT works you have done lately. Great works indeed!!!  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: 11241036 on December 11, 2015, 04:06:06 PM
This new building looks great! I'm especially pleased because it is now something entirely new. Can't await to see it online :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on December 11, 2015, 04:18:38 PM
Glad to hear you're doing better. Needless to say I like your latest creation, sure can use fitting government type buildings in my fictional kingdom!  :D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: mattb325 on December 11, 2015, 04:21:25 PM
Absolutely stunning! The little church is wonderful
I'm glad your back is a little better - but make sure not to overdo it; I've heard that sitting for long periods can be torture for sore backs
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: JP Schriefer on December 12, 2015, 09:59:54 AM
Nice to know you're already back :)
Lovely models!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Kergelen on December 13, 2015, 10:48:19 AM
This medieval building looks fantastic! &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: reddonquixote on December 14, 2015, 01:49:48 AM
They're gorgeous!  :thumbsup:

I even like the church how it is right now, it looks like an old ruin.. a relic from the war  ()stsfd()
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on December 14, 2015, 06:28:57 AM
Wonderful progress, and the church is shaping up nicely!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 15, 2015, 08:37:17 AM
vester: Thank you!! And thak you for the advice!!!

11241036: Thank you!!

vortext: Thank you!!! I'll be proud to see it in your MD. I'd like to do other experiments, but I don't if you'll be interested in them, because they may look too Southern. Let's see...

mattb325: Thank you!! I've got no intention to torture myself but with the BAT  :P. Sometimes it's very frustrating to render some things...

Schriefer: Thank you!!

Kergelen: Thank you!!

reddonquixote Thank you!! A relic from which war?  :D I think that poor little thing has seen too many wars during its 1200 years. In fact, it was built during a civil war and because of it, so it's really a war relic.

Simcoug: Thank you!!

After 4 rendering attempts I finally got a good result with the Neo-Romanesque house. Mirror version, and corner-filler version to do:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0447%2520Casa_zps2h8r2mra.jpg&hash=bcb95d366c67959e9cb51fc87c81cf7ae79d58a6)

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I've been thinking about the content of my next upload, and it will consist of the already seen R$$ houses, a R$$ version od the R$ ones (two-story), a R$ version of the R$$ (one-story), and perhaps a two-story R$ version of the buildings (In fact, the main difference in most of them will be that they will have two doors instead of one). Obviously, all the new houses will have their usual colour variations. The upload will also include the market hall. I was thinking about including a basic pack of civic buildings, but they will be released in another upload, as the next one has content enough.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on December 15, 2015, 10:23:06 AM
It's so pretty!  :bnn:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simmer2 on December 15, 2015, 11:55:36 AM
WOW!! Outstanding!!  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: JP Schriefer on December 15, 2015, 12:07:27 PM
Fantastic! Looks very beautiful. Will it be available as plopabble as well?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on December 19, 2015, 09:42:22 AM
Magnificent as always. :thumbsup:

The power lines running over the houses are a unique touch.  Are those plopped, or part of the lots?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: manga rivotra on December 20, 2015, 10:30:48 AM
This corner house is amazing, the rounded balcony is simply gorgeous.  :o
I'm really impatient to play with it and the others jewels from your next upload  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: seraf on December 24, 2015, 07:19:26 AM
I love it, especially the ornate balconies. Very new-orleanesque  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 26, 2015, 08:06:04 AM
vortext: Thank you!!

Simmer2: Thank you!!

Schriefer: Thank you!! They will be growable residentials, but they'll be easy to make ploppable, as they're props.

c.p.: Thank you!! They're part of the lots. They were not included into the uploaded lots, because they were difficult to combine with other lots, but they're included in the prop-pack.

manga rivotra: Thank you!!

seraf: Thank you!! I don't know, but perhaps New Orleans balconies are very Spanish.  :P

The mirror corner version and the corner-filler:

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R$$ version of Casa Arcos:

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General view:

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I hope you like them!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: deora on December 26, 2015, 01:38:57 PM
Lovely as always.All the Details and cool Ideas are just mindboggling.That Rounded Corner is superb and fits very well your Art Style.Because that`s what your BATs are,Art! :satisfied: &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: JP Schriefer on December 26, 2015, 05:17:06 PM
Very good job!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: GameFrog on December 27, 2015, 05:00:35 AM
Awesome!  &apls

I'm waiting to be able to use those R$$ buildings in my cities (next to your R$ buildings that I've already placed  ;D)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on December 29, 2015, 09:11:16 AM
deora: Thank you!! You're too kind.

Schriefer: Thank you!!

GameFrog: Thank you!!

Corner version:

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Mirror:

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I hope you like it!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on December 29, 2015, 10:46:34 AM
Excellent, as always :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: mattb325 on December 29, 2015, 02:43:25 PM
Really, really beautiful  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: mgb204 on December 29, 2015, 03:12:09 PM
Fantastic BATs as always, they don't really fit my game, but I can certainly admire quality work when I see it :).
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Mandarin(a) on December 29, 2015, 03:22:19 PM
Indeed, it looks very realistic. Amazing skills.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: mrbisonm on December 30, 2015, 06:21:05 AM
Wow, I'm impressed! Looks like you know how to texture your models. :thumbsup:

Fred
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Dantes on December 30, 2015, 08:39:27 AM
Soory.  &mmm I am late to comment. At Time I am busy.  ()sad()
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-> Your city district is soooooo epic-historic-great!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: JP Schriefer on December 30, 2015, 11:59:44 AM
Looks great! Very good textures and modeling!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Unconstantean on December 30, 2015, 12:39:07 PM
amazing work.  &apls

what retexture do you use for the street?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Kergelen on December 30, 2015, 02:10:55 PM
Amazing corner buildings &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: reddonquixote on December 30, 2015, 03:04:15 PM
Another exciting little gem. Its great seeing the city zoomed out as well. The scope of your creations is jaw dropping.  &apls &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: 11241036 on December 30, 2015, 10:29:45 PM
This is again very great work, as usual :) Very well-detailed and high variety.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 02, 2016, 02:27:21 PM
c.p.: Thank you!! All that wouldn't have existed without your help.

mattb325: Thank you!!

mgb204: Thank you!! Well, all this started as a personal challenge, and because I wanted to do a Spanish-inspired region. In fact, the only thing I'm doing now is modelling, the region has been totally forgotten.  :-[

Mandarin(a): Thank you!!

mrbisonm: Thank you!! The best thing about sketch-up is that you can work directly on the textures.

Dantes: Thank you!! This is only my testing city, I'm glad you like it!

Schriefer: Thank you!! As I said, Sketch-up made things easier.

Unconstantean: Thank you!! Is a beta version of vortext's mod. You can see it on his MD (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=15903.msg488651#msg488651).

Kergelen: Thank you!!

reddonquixote: Thank you!!

11241036: Thank you!!

Some little progress on the Beti-Jai project:

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I hope you like it!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: mattb325 on January 02, 2016, 04:08:15 PM
Like it? I love it! It's amazingly detailed  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: mgb204 on January 03, 2016, 03:06:11 AM
Is that some sort of amphitheatre? Googling the name found me a seafood restaurant ()what(). Either way it looks like we're in for another fantastic BAT.

Quote from: romualdillo on January 02, 2016, 02:27:21 PM
mgb204: Thank you!! Well, all this started as a personal challenge, and because I wanted to do a Spanish-inspired region. In fact, the only thing I'm doing now is modelling, the region has been totally forgotten.  :-[

I know how you feel there. I have a similar problem recreating exactly what I want with the available parts. I'm not at your level of modelling, but at some point I hope to produce a similar set of content. In the meantime I'm too busy modding to actually make cities.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 03, 2016, 08:20:57 AM
mattb325: Thank you!!

mgb204: Thank you!! The "Frontón Beti-Jai" in Madrid is the oldest sport facility in Spain. It was built in 1895 to host Frontón championships, which was the most popular sport in Spain before football (soccer) arrived. Now it's a ruin, but there are plans to restore it... since 2005...  >:(
Beti Jai means "Always Party" in basque, so it's easy finding a basque restaurant when you're searching for it in Google.  :D

Here's a complete view of the BAT:

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: mrbisonm on January 03, 2016, 08:44:50 AM
Quote from: romualdillo on January 02, 2016, 02:27:21 PM


mrbisonm: Thank you!! The best thing about sketch-up is that you can work directly on the textures.

I never used or even tried sketch-up. I guess I will have to try this one day.
Btw, Love that Beti Jai project!

Fred
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: cmdp123789 on January 03, 2016, 10:12:06 AM
Excellent! I love seeing your spanish buildings.. I havent been commenting a lot lately.. but I did keep up with your work! Im still waiting on those w2w 2 stories buildings  :satisfied:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: kelis on January 03, 2016, 10:43:31 AM
Realmente increible !! Your last scenes are simply amazing... the realism is terrible, can't wait to see the progress with the last model...
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Unconstantean on January 03, 2016, 12:25:07 PM
looks wow! :D How big will it be? :D
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 03, 2016, 02:58:06 PM
mrbisonm: Thank you!!

cmdp123789: Thank you!! It's only a brief hiatus in their development. I was a bit bored.  ;)

kelis: Thank you!!

Unconstantean: Thank you!! It will be 2x5 tiles. It's not that big, but it's the biggest building I've done.

Today's progress:

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I hope you like it!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on January 03, 2016, 03:23:22 PM
Looks really great, it such an unique building! Can't wait to see the first ingame shots  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on January 03, 2016, 04:24:35 PM
That is some amazing work on the Frontón Beti-Jai.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: reddonquixote on January 03, 2016, 05:31:36 PM
Wow that looks like an ambitious project - its looking amazing so far  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 05, 2016, 12:52:36 PM
Thank you guys!!  ;D

Today I need your opinion. I started working on the R$$ version of Casa Quaroni. I feared this moment because the original building is much larger and I had to adapt its elements to match a 8m-wide facade. I decided to do it very simple, and I think I got a good result. Which version do you like most? I think the second is the best one, but the details are more visible in the first one.

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on January 05, 2016, 01:07:31 PM
Another great model with some great texture works  &apls


I like the second best.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: cmdp123789 on January 05, 2016, 03:12:22 PM
The second one looks more natural.. I would go with that one.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: 11241036 on January 05, 2016, 10:35:35 PM
To me, they both look great, I'm, after all, no expert in judging graphics, I just appreciate good work :). Also, good work on the Frontón Beti-Jai in your previous post. Looks like an interesting building, something I've never seen before.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on January 06, 2016, 08:37:23 AM
Both look great, but if forced to choose I'd go with the second.  Amazing details as usual  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: kelis on January 06, 2016, 09:32:14 AM
I'm with the second too, anyway both are great  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: mattb325 on January 06, 2016, 12:00:17 PM
Beautiful details.

I like the second one, but the first version will work best in game given the contrasting colours on the ground floor  ;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on January 06, 2016, 12:04:53 PM
Yeah I actually like the first one better because it has more contrast in the facade.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: reddonquixote on January 06, 2016, 12:06:56 PM
They are both beautiful. I think to judge properly we'd need to see in BAT scale/ angle, but both are so good you can't go wrong with either really  :D
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Girafe on January 06, 2016, 12:31:30 PM
1st  ;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simmer2 on January 06, 2016, 02:02:49 PM
Yup definitively 1st. &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on January 15, 2016, 02:40:04 PM
Thank you guys!!!

I think this was a draw: 4 - 4.  :D
As the original building looks more like the second version (and I like it better, too), I've rendered it:

Normal and mirror version:

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I hope you like it!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: JP Schriefer on January 15, 2016, 10:03:12 PM
Fantastic job!! Thoroughly well done. :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: mattb325 on January 16, 2016, 05:47:05 PM
It's a really charming - and unusual - W2W. I love it  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Dantes on January 17, 2016, 08:54:49 AM
So great, so lovely, just awesome work! °Ö°
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: peperodriguez2710 on January 17, 2016, 09:54:54 AM
That's ¡la leche! :D
Your buldings are damn good, I love them, and the Correos post boxes are simply awesome.


Very very good work, sigue así, ¡ya me gustaría acercarme a la suela de tu zapato a la hora de hacer cosas en este juego!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on January 20, 2016, 02:43:17 PM
Interesting and unusual.  It complements the other buildings nicely. &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: reddonquixote on February 01, 2016, 03:14:52 AM
Good choice, looks amazing  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Swordmaster on February 01, 2016, 07:13:03 AM
Looking great! Not exactly my style of building, but great nonetheless.


Cheers
Willy
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on February 01, 2016, 08:58:33 AM
Wow, I've missed a lot of beautiful stuff  &apls &apls  The second choice looks outstanding! That indoor sports center is very impressive and these buildings in general will look awesome in the oldest part of the city I'm building--can't wait!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: kbieniu7 on February 01, 2016, 12:01:46 PM
Indeed, that's magnificient work!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Bipin on February 01, 2016, 05:34:14 PM
You inspire me.  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 02, 2016, 09:46:09 AM
Thank you guys!!!

Worl in progress (yes, slowly... veeery slowly):

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What do you think?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: art128 on February 02, 2016, 09:48:05 AM
I think it's beautiful !
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Themistokles on February 02, 2016, 09:49:23 AM
The amount of detailing you pour into this is just absolutely breath-taking. And it looks fabulous! &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on February 02, 2016, 09:50:47 AM
The ornate details are stunning!  I love the opaque stained glass!   &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simmer2 on February 02, 2016, 10:12:33 AM
Your attention to details is outstanding  &apls  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Gugu3 on February 02, 2016, 03:36:11 PM
Very nice indeed! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 04, 2016, 07:26:18 AM
Thank you all for the nice comments!!!

Some news about my Prop Pack (again). Simcoug detected several problems with the models in the LotEditor, and I re-rendered them. He also offered his help to improve the pack by adding new families to ease its use, and added a CohortFiles.dat. The new file has been uploaded today.

Thank you very much for your time and work, Simcoug!!!  &apls

EDIT: A little progress here

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on February 04, 2016, 08:04:53 PM
Nice. :thumbsup:  I like the way you extended the door for the foundation, and also the curved stairs (that can't be easy :D)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 09, 2016, 09:49:19 AM
Thanks c.p.!!

Finally in-game shots! Corners and corner-filler:

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I hope you like them!! I'm starting with the colour variations, so if you have any suggestion or idea, please post them!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Themistokles on February 09, 2016, 10:15:39 AM
Wonderful! &apls With the street textures and everything (i.e. T21's) they look really realistic...

...but I can't help thinking that if one combined them with some old-style industries, maybe some steam-locomotives (the RRW) and some grungyness they'd be as if tailor-made for a steampunk region... :D
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simcoug on February 09, 2016, 10:44:39 AM
Lovely!  The details really jump out on this one - you can tell the amount of effort that went into capturing all the intricacies.  Bravo!   :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: JP Schriefer on February 09, 2016, 11:54:23 AM
Wonderful work (again)!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: seraf on February 09, 2016, 03:58:34 PM
Beautiful  &apls You've made it your personal style :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: matias93 on February 09, 2016, 07:32:11 PM
Quote from: Themistokles on February 09, 2016, 10:15:39 AM
Wonderful! &apls With the street textures and everything (i.e. T21's) they look really realistic...

...but I can't help thinking that if one combined them with some old-style industries, maybe some steam-locomotives (the RRW) and some grungyness they'd be as if tailor-made for a steampunk region... :D

THAT is a very interesting city concept!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Swordmaster on February 10, 2016, 06:54:28 AM
Fantastic work! I love the nightlighting and the little inner courts and backsides of the buildings.


Cheers
Willy
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on February 17, 2016, 06:54:22 AM
Beautiful work  &apls  I can't wait to see this in my city. I'll echo the comment about your clever design of the stairs in the corner foundation a couple posts back  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: mattb325 on February 19, 2016, 02:22:09 PM
The corner building has turned out beautifully - every detail is stunning  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Jmouse on February 19, 2016, 06:51:04 PM
You have done some really fine work on these buildings, and the night shots are especially lovely.

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on March 14, 2016, 10:57:27 AM
Themistokles: Thank you!! Well, in this case steampunk has been a reference. One of my favourite MDs ever was Endora (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6964.0). Sometimes I turn back to look its magical images. I hope antimonycat comes back some day! However, I'm not a steampunk fanatic. I'd prefer something more relaxed, perhaps something like in "Howl's Moving Castle" of Hayao Miyazaki, or his Sherlock Holmes TV series.

(https://drakenland.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/colmar2.jpg)

Simcoug: Thank you!!

Schriefer: Thank you!!

seraf: Thank you!!

matias93: Let's see how it develops!  ;)

Swordmaster: Thank you!!

noahclem: Thank you!! It's not that difficult if you have the necessary tools or plug-ins!!

mattb325: Thank you!!

Jmouse: Thank you!!

Perhaps you've noticed I've been less active lately. It's because I've been very busy, and I've not much time to work on my models. But I won't stop working, so don't worry!  :P

This is the last R$ to R$$ conversion, I hope you like it:

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First R$$ to R$ conversion, I hope you like it:

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New Ford T Models based on C.Scott models:

Security has been improved with...doors!!  :D Some textures look a bit weird in Sketchup, but they'll look correctly in game.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0522%2520FordT_zpsak9tqaua.jpg&hash=9d5bb8d12d9276c6f55809448f5b6a4da8ebbd9a)

Other security improvement, a spare wheel:
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Ford Model T Roadster... Not very safe... (Still unfinished)
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More to come!  ;)

And last but not least, I've decided to rework my lots growth system and systematize it (even more). I'll try to mod my lots (I still don't know if it's possible, so if you know anything about it, any advice will be welcomed) to limit height and not density. That's what I've thought for any lot size:

LOW DENSITY:         1-2 floors
MEDIUM DENSITY:    3-4-5 floors
HIGH DENSITY:        6-7-8 floors

I'm still not sure about the 7th and 8th floors as they were not so common, but you can find them in cities like Madrid, Barcelona or Buenos Aires. Perhaps as "special lots"... &Thk/(

The low density growth system would be like this (GS: Growth Stage):

R$ 1x2(3)
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R$$ 1x2(3) and R$$$ 1x2(3)
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R$ 2x2(3):
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R$$ 2x2(3):
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R$$$ 2x2(3) and Corner Lots:
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Obviously R$ lots will be much denser as the other type of lots. Some living conditions are not proper for R$$ or R$$$ buildings.

Let me know what you think! I'm sorry for the long post!  :)

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: carlfatal on March 14, 2016, 11:36:11 AM
Why sorry for a long post? I mean, I could sink into these pictures for hours, - nah days...  &apls &apls

I did have a look also at your older posts, and I am simply wowed. This set comes out so beautiful!  :bnn:

And although I have to admit, that I was merely looking at the pictures, I am intrigued by your ideas, how to mod the houses. This may help me with my own stuff.

keep it on!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: cmdp123789 on March 14, 2016, 11:36:50 AM
 &apls

Excellent update! I like the pics, and yes, having some 6-7-8 stories in buildings would be great too! I honestly can't wait for your next big release!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Missvanleider on March 14, 2016, 01:12:59 PM
incredible pictures, some all of those buildings look amazing, and the portraits themselves are remarkable
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: bombardiere on March 15, 2016, 06:59:29 AM
With this superb work I can hardly wait for to see how your R$$$ look like.  :thumbsup:

Your colour palette is bit too brownish for my taste, but then again I come from the North where the Grey is fashionable colour. :D

Can that Ford model be an automata? If so, I want it. :)

Quote from: romualdillo on March 14, 2016, 10:57:27 AM


And last but not least, I've decided to rework my lots growth system and systematize it (even more). I'll try to mod my lots (I still don't know if it's possible, so if you know anything about it, any advice will be welcomed) to limit height and not density. That's what I've thought for any lot size:

LOW DENSITY:         1-2 floors
MEDIUM DENSITY:    3-4-5 floors
HIGH DENSITY:        6-7-8 floors


Yes, the lots can be modded. Not with PIMX or Maxis lot editor, but with for example iLives Reader or SC4Tool. PIMX usually gives good stage levels and it is possible to adjust one up or down, so I don't usually mess with those, but I regularly tamper with the Density Level.

When I build historical cities, I follow very similar density model than your are thinking. Expect that for me a wall-to-wall building is Medium Density even if it has only 2 floor, and higher buildings if those are stand alone are usually Low Density.

I have adjusted most of user made Bats I use for historical build. This way it gives me more control when historical cities don't go up to the skyscrapers. I am actually surprised that a big city like London had only few higher than 6 floors buildings made before 1900 or late 1800's.  Lack of the lift is one reason, but only partly and planning regulations seems to had a big impact. Paris on the other hand goes a little higher, so there a 8 floor city building is not that uncommon in 19th century.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: kelis on March 15, 2016, 02:03:00 PM
Madre mia que pasada !!! I know we have to use english as a main language here but I couldn't resist, those pictures and those buildings... the pictures looks like real pictures, man I hope you can finish your work soon, because when these buildings are available I think that a new world is open for us, especially for the people from Spain, with your buildings finally we can make a real Spanish city.

Gracias por tu trabajo compañero / Thanks for your work  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on March 24, 2016, 06:56:27 PM
Thank you all!!!

bombardiere: Thank you! Actually, the Ford Model T is an automata. If you look at my early posts (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=16518.msg499511#msg499511) you'll see my experiments. The R$$$ will take a little, until I finish the other ones.

Now a preview. I was bored of doing houses and I started a new building. I'm reconstructing a ruin again. It's a theatre in the city of Ferrol, Galicia, Spain: Teatro Renacimiento.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0532%2520Cine_zpsee7ynluj.jpg&hash=55e9eba8fba00853b3916ed72eafe62c1147c23f)

I hope you like it!!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simmer2 on March 24, 2016, 08:48:46 PM
Great project you have picked   &apls &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on March 28, 2016, 02:08:48 PM
Looks like a very elaborate ruin :D  Nice detailing on the model, as always.

Your growth system makes sense, and you can mod the lots in PIM-X or ilive or SC4Tool.

Another possibility, if you want more gradations of control, is to make adjustments the Stage Growth Cap settings in CAM (if you use it).  So for example, you might limit areas without water service to stage 1 or stage 2 (one story?), or areas without fire service to stage 3 (3 stories?).  You wouldn't be able upload this with your buildings/lots (I don't think so anyway), but it might be a way to get more out of the set, so you can have neighborhoods that max out at a wider variety of heights.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: APSMS on March 28, 2016, 02:31:20 PM
I really like your buildings, but for some reason to me the facades seem flat. Like they're textured boxes. Exquisite textured boxes, no less, and they look great at night, but for reasons unknown they seem flat in the daytime shots.

Maybe the BATted elements are too subtle, or not pronounced enough? I'm not sure. :-\

I really hate saying it, too, because at night they look stunning, and even in the day they look fantastic, aside from that nitpick. It just feels like the window alcoves and door shelters don't have any depth to them. Maybe you can work on that, or help me understand why I see it that way? It's kinda like looking at a Google Earth 3D view of a European city.

But they would look really fantastic in an Endora style region!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on March 29, 2016, 09:25:39 AM
Simmer2: Thank you!!

c.p.: Thank you!! I've never used CAM (I've never been interested in skyscrapers), but I didn't know those features. They sound very interesting. I'll take a deeper look to CAM to see if I can get clear with all that modding.  :thumbsup:

APSMS: Ouch! That hurts!  :D Now seriously, you're not the first one talking about the boxy appearance of my houses. I can't do anything about their general aspect. Consider that Spanish houses are Arabic houses with European walls. (Talking about Arabic things, I was surprised at "alcove" being an English word)

About the facades, there might be different reasons for their "flatness"

1. They need more "pronouncing". Well, I don't think this is really the problem. All details, alcoves and shelters are oversized to 200 or even 300% to look deeper.
2. There are too many details. Well, I work with Sketchup and I tend to model everything to the last detail. Many of these details get lost in the final render, despite being oversized. Pehaps modelling with less detail would give better final results, but that's impossible for me, because everything seems "unfinished".
3. The Gmax render. I use Gmax and not 3ds Max, so the final result has less contrast than a 3ds Max model. Perhaps if the shadows were stronger, the facades wouldn't look that flat. Oversizing details doesn't help much up to certain point, and things look weird in other perspectives. I try to work my textures to make up for this effect, but obviously the result will never be the same. Why do I use Gmax? Because my computer is old, and 3ds Max runs extremely slowly.  :'(
4. Buildings are small. Well, if buildings are small, their parts will be small, too. I can't make miracles.  :P Perhaps when I start making bigger buildings they would look better.

These are all the possibilities I can think of. I'm sorry this was not an update, but if there is any possibility to improve my work I'll try it. Thank you!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on April 03, 2016, 11:40:37 AM
I've been working on the lot modding, and sadly it happened what I thought it would happen. Up to Growth Stage 4, buildings don't grow on low density zones, even if they're modded to grow on them. I can change the zone density from medium to low when they've been built, but I can't find the way to make the buildings grow on them. So I'll have to change my growth system, and make everything grow on growth stage 3. It's unrealistic but it's the only way I can think of to limit the buildings' height.  ()what()

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I think this is going to be impossible.

If you have any idea or advice. I'd like to try it, because I don't want to make everything GS-3.
Sorry, no new pictures!  :-[
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on April 03, 2016, 12:43:41 PM
Quote from: romualdillo on April 03, 2016, 11:40:37 AM
Up to Growth Stage 4, buildings don't grow on low density zones, even if they're modded to grow on them.

()what() Genuinely confused as to what you mean, exactly. Stage 1 t/m 4 grow just fine on low density zones, and medium and high density for that matter. Also not quite sure why an issue with zone density would mean all lots need to be stage 3 - which I'd strongly advise against btw.

And if you allow me making some other advice; years ago when I just started lotting/modding I made a huge lot set and tried to carefully distribute stages over zone density as well and found it's actually highly impractical. Say you restrict stage 1,2,3 to low density, and stage 4,5 to medium. Now if you want to upgrade a section of low density lots to medium, all the low density lots will be destroyed in the process! Because the low density lots cannot grow on medium density zones. So the city population takes a hit, thus decreasing the changes stage 4,5 will actually grow. And you cannot start the city with medium density zones either, since the low density stage 1 lots zones won't grow at all. 

So long story short, trying to manage city growth by means of lot zone density requires a lot of effort without much practical benefit. It's much, much easier to restrict building height in a city block by simply making lots historical. Honestly, don't stare yourself blind on this. I know I did and while doing so lost a lot set due to mismanagement (and ignorance I might add  :D).

Anyway excuse the wall of text. The theater is looking great!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on April 03, 2016, 01:32:01 PM
Well, what I wanted to test at first was if the growth levels were really attached to zone density, and, if not, use zone density as a way to limit building heights, just like this:

LOW DENSITY:         1-2 floors
MEDIUM DENSITY:    3-4-5 floors
HIGH DENSITY:        6-7-8 floors

But now I know that if I mod a lot to be growth stage 4, and as "LotConfigPropertyZoneTypes" I write Low, Medium and High density it will never grow on low density. So I understand growth stages are attached to zone density, and I can't use zoning the way I wanted. Sure I can use all types of density, and control the buildings' growth with my plugins folders, but I wanted to try this system first. Honestly, I didn't think about the plugins folder when I wrote the last update because of my frustration, but now I see it's better to keep the growth stages, even if the buildings don't grow as I wanted them to. I only thought about all the buildings growing on the same density. But well, if you don't mind having same height buildings growing on different density zones, and different height buildings growing on the same density zones, neither do I.  ;)
(I hope I've explained myself correctly this time)  :P
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: bombardiere on April 03, 2016, 11:13:51 PM
So you have set a Stage 4 building for all Densities, Low, Medium and High and it refuses to grow.

Hhhhmmm. I have to admit that I am not 100 per cent sure, but that should be doable. I don't know anything in the game that should stop it. In fact, when it tested my Clerkenwell Close upload, I had a version for all densities. But I need to check if it was a stage 3 or stage 4 lot. I will come back to this.

PIMX is happy to offer low density for stage 5 lots.

I think Maxis did set their stages as 1-3 for low, 4-6 medium and 7-8 to high, but they did it with lotting densities and not with anything in the code.

In fact, if I understood correctly what you want to do, then in principle it should be feasible. As I said, I have followed very similar principle. But I need to confirm that I really grow stage 4+ lots in the low density.

I can only think of two things. Modified lots are broken, something has gone wrong in the density change. Or capacity satisfied is a factor here. You may have competiting buildings which have higher capacity and the SC4 prefers to grow those instead of what you want. I have some buildings which grows like a weed as these have higher capacity in that growth stage and the game prefer fill the demand with higher capacity buildings.

Vortext advise is good one. Making a building to grow only in medium or high density can lead to annoying side effect.


Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on April 04, 2016, 01:31:13 AM
I think it's not a matter of capacity, demand or even water. I've tested my buildings alone in my plugins folder (so there's not other building to grow in the testing city tile, maxis one were blocked). The capacity satisfied is higher than the one in the previous stage: 28 inhab. against 21. I thought about water, but water connection was present. The building does grow with lower growth stages, and when zone density is set to medium, the building grows normally... It walks like a duck, swims like a duck and sounds like a duck. It should be a duck, but it might be a platypus.  :P

Lot's Exemplar File:
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Building's Exemplar File:
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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: bombardiere on April 04, 2016, 07:32:18 AM
Quote from: romualdillo on April 04, 2016, 01:31:13 AM
The building does grow with lower growth stages, and when zone density is set to medium, the building grows normally...


Sorry, does the sentence miss a word "not"? "The building does not grow with..."

I did a quick test. However this is by no means conclusive and may be I created a false positive.

But I attach a picture. The building in the middle, my recent terrace town house building, is Stage 4 building. I changed the lot so that it would grow on Low, Medium and High density. And it grows. :)  That is a low density zoned lot. Same as one on the right. I even demolished the building to make sure.

So in my opinion Stage 4 and perhaps higher, do grow in the low density.

However this building was a bit reluctant to grow, so there might be other factors.

I do not spot any error in your file, so that seems to be correct. How did you made the lot? I am a lazy person and sometimes I use Maxis' LE and just swap the buildings on previously made lot. Occasionally the game do not recognise these swapped lots and the new building does not grow. My guess is that something get corrupted.

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on April 04, 2016, 08:02:03 AM
The building does grow...  :D with lower growth stages, but I can't make it grow in low density zones...
I used a previously made LOT, I changed name, building, growth stage and instance with reader and the rest with PIM-X. Perhaps the building doesn't grow in low density zones because of that, but it grows very fast when zone is set to medium density, so I think that might not be the problem.
Well, I'll keep trying. Thank you very much for your help and interest!  :thumbsup:
An idea: Your lot is 2x2, mine are 1x2, perhaps that's a factor...  &Thk/(
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: bombardiere on April 04, 2016, 08:18:20 AM
I tested a bit more and ok, I have to say to get Stage4 grow on low density is very hard. I spotted only two occasions. It seems that the game can't fill an empty lot with Stage 4   building strait away, but wants to make low Stage building first. When the lot has Stage 3 , it seems happy to be content with that and do not want to move upwards.

My test city has population of 10 000 and I use CAM 2.  I may be on the Stage 4 stresshold, so may be that is why growing is so hard.

Hopefully some one with more experience can shed more light, as now I got curiosed too. :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on April 04, 2016, 09:20:28 AM
Finally, after several attempts the Growth Stage level 4 building grew on a low density lot. It's difficult to make it grow, as bombardiere said, but I think I prefer it this way. Thank you very much for your help and interest!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on April 04, 2016, 09:56:01 AM
Yeah the game does have a few preferences when it comes to lot density, stages and upgrading.

Another one which you want to keep in mind is the game prefers to upgrade the oldest zones first, the rational being that a city grows from the center out. Since you start with low density zoning which cannot upgrade you may find it difficult to get medium density lots to grow, as these are newer zones. And again, if you rezone the low density with medium density in the center, you only exacerbate the problem because it'll destroy low density, thus the population takes a hit and you still have new medium density zones in its place. So it kinda forces you to build from the outer parts of a city inwards, with the overall growth being sluggish because it goes counter to some of the core principles of the game. Honestly, it's not practical, nor worth the effort imho.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on April 04, 2016, 10:13:46 AM
Hmm, I think I got what you mean... Well, it wasn't my intention to mod the low density lots to grow only on low density zones, because I didn't want the existing buildings to get destroyed if the zone is upgraded to medium density. I prefer things to grow naturally. Everything low density will grow anywhere.
The "problem" is, as bombardiere mentioned, that GS 3 low density lots won't upgrade to GS 4 low density lots (at least this upgrade will be extremely rare), but as I said I think I prefer it this way.  :) You'll always have the option of medium density zoning.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on April 04, 2016, 10:45:54 AM
Quote from: romualdillo on April 04, 2016, 10:13:46 AM
Well, it wasn't my intention to mod the low density lots to grow only on low density zones, because I didn't want the existing buildings to get destroyed if the zone is upgraded to medium density.

In that case there's less of an issue indeed. I just recalled what I tried to do and it didn't quite work out as anticipated, so it'd be a shame if after a lot of trouble you'd arrived at the same conclusion.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on April 04, 2016, 11:06:49 AM
Thank you!  :thumbsup:
At first, I didn't understand you were talking about really restrictive zoning. :-[ I must confess I was tempted of doing so at first, but then I realized it was unnatural. My intention is to limit heights, not restrict heights, just like it was (and it is) usually done in Spain.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: bombardiere on April 08, 2016, 02:25:48 PM
Quote from: vortext on April 04, 2016, 09:56:01 AM
Yeah the game does have a few preferences when it comes to lot density, stages and upgrading.

Another one which you want to keep in mind is the game prefers to upgrade the oldest zones first, the rational being that a city grows from the center out. Since you start with low density zoning which cannot upgrade you may find it difficult to get medium density lots to grow, as these are newer zones. And again, if you rezone the low density with medium density in the center, you only exacerbate the problem because it'll destroy low density, thus the population takes a hit and you still have new medium density zones in its place. So it kinda forces you to build from the outer parts of a city inwards, with the overall growth being sluggish because it goes counter to some of the core principles of the game. Honestly, it's not practical, nor worth the effort imho.

Thank you Vortext. That is interesting information. That made me think.

If I want to create an European style old city centre, then perhaps I should zone medium density from early on, even though it would be unneccessary extra money during early play stage.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Dantes on April 19, 2016, 05:00:09 AM
After I explained myself a bit more with GMAX, I still have much greater respect for you and your great work! :o Mi amigo que eres un gran artista!  ()stsfd()
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 10, 2016, 05:48:20 PM
As my last post might have been lost forever, I'm going to upload again all the pictures I made of the new 1- and 2-story R$ buildings I've been working on, but first I want to reiterate my gratitude to vortext and bombaridere for their help and advice.
And Dantes, thank you too!!  ;)

The R$ buildings:
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I hope you like them! My plan is to complete the set with other two conversions and two new models.
See you!  ;)


Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: korver on June 10, 2016, 06:35:52 PM
Looks fantastic! Looking forward to when you release the entire set, would love to put some of these beautiful models to good use in one of my upcoming MD updates :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: manga rivotra on June 10, 2016, 06:41:04 PM
I am totally amazed!  :o
Your next set will be a wonderful gift for us !  Thanks you very much :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Themistokles on June 11, 2016, 01:32:45 AM
Beautiful! You have made so many variations that one could fill a whole tile with these houses without any problems with repetition  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: metarvo on June 11, 2016, 05:16:51 AM
Nice stuff there!  :thumbsup:  You can't go wrong with variety.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: 11241036 on June 11, 2016, 08:33:05 AM
I'm amazed, too. Can't await to build some houses for my Spanish immigrants in Calidores. Amazingly detailed and high variety.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Dantes on June 12, 2016, 06:31:03 AM
For me it looks like a finished portrait!  :popcorn: I love your city! I look forward to large and small squares with fountains and statues. Will you use churches of debussyman? He has spanish or brazilian churches!
You are amazing artist!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on June 12, 2016, 10:32:53 AM
Outstanding work on these! Can't wait for the release of this set  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simmer2 on June 12, 2016, 01:11:51 PM
Your work conveys an atmosphere of antiquity. Its like looking at paintings from world famous artists  &apls &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Mandarin(a) on June 14, 2016, 06:32:52 AM
Love the backyards! And roofs! And everything! Amazing work  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 19, 2016, 09:45:13 AM
Wow! How many comments!! Thanks to all!!

Dantes: Thanks!! In fact, im planning to model a church and other religious buildings. Debussyman's models are magnificent, but most of his churches are just too big for the scale I'm building now. Let's see what I'm going to do...  &Thk/(

Simmer2: Thanks!! But I fear that most of this atmosphere is achieved thanks to vortext's cobble stones and MandelSoft's light cones. Without them, all this atmosphere would be lost.  ;)

Well, I think it's the last time I do such a big set. Sometimes I get really bored of doing the different versions of my models. Supposedly I'm doing this because I like doing it, but you know what I mean... You just want to end a project, because you want to start another one, and I have plenty of ideas I want to test in-game. After all these houses are released, I'm going to finish my basic civic pack: Schools, Police and Fire Stations and Clinic, and make a full set of 1910's vehicles. But first I'll finish this project, because I find necessary to have a good stock of buildings as background. I know that my work is too specific, but it's something I really want to do, and this is my contribution to the community.  :P

Now, one of the last original models of this set... Last week I took a Sketchup book out of the library and learnt a few new things about texturing and modelling. They're nothing too special, but I didn't know them.
This house is modelled after a house in León, Spain, and its style is called Neo-Mudexar (I don't know how to write it in English, in Spanish is written Neomudéjar). None of the textures has been photoshopped yet, that's why they all look so clean. As a curiosity, this style was often used in Spain to build industrial facilities, like electric power plants.

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This is supposed to be the facade of the R$$ building. I hope you like it!

EDIT: I changed the expressions "to end with some project" and "to start with". I translated them directly from Spanish without thinking twice. I noticed something strange when I read Bombardiere's post. My apologies to all native English speakers, I try to do my best!  ;)





Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: bombardiere on June 19, 2016, 02:14:59 PM
I certainly like it.  :thumbsup: Yes, your style is very specific. Well Spanish. :) Would work in South America Latin environent, but not in Northern Europe. Or US, but I like the charicter on these houses. Makes my imagination to flow.

Quote from: romualdillo on June 19, 2016, 09:45:13 AM

Well, I think it's the last time I do such a big set. Sometimes I get really bored of doing the different versions of my models. Supposedly I'm doing this because I like doing it, but you know what I mean... You just want to end with some project, beacuse you want to start with another one, and I have plenty of ideas I want to test in-game. After all these houses are released, I'm going to finish my basic civic pack: Schools, Police and Fire Stations and Clinic, and make a full set of 1910's vehicles. But first I'll finish this project, beacuse I find necessary to have a good stock of buildings as background. I know that my work is too specific, but it's something I really want to do, and this is my contribution to the community.  :P



I can understand this. I haven't done this big building packs, but even still some buildings have exhausted me. I feel that sometimes there is a time to stop fine tuning and release the building or there is a very real danger to not ever finish it. Batting is fun hobby and I have learnt a lot about architecture, but still the batting can be surprisingly tasking.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 23, 2016, 09:45:05 AM
Thanks bombardiere! Well, I think this houses are not made to resist hard winters...  :D

I need some help, advice, criticism, feedback, comments, ideas, suggestions.... whatever. I don't know exactly what to do with the two-story R$ version of Casa Quaroni... I chose this house because I liked it and its elements, but they are really tricky to blend successfully in other combinations. I'll give you some options, and please tell me which of them do you prefer (and why). You can suggest other combinations, of course. Textures are to finish.

01. Asymmetrical, round window normal height, higher top
02. Asymmetrical, round window higher, higher top
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03. Asymmetrical, normal window, higher top
04. Asymmetrical, round window higher, same height top
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05. Asymmetrical, normal window, same height top
06. Asymmetrical, round window higher, same height top, switched textures
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07. Asymmetrical, normal window, same height top, switched textures.
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09. Symmetrical, round window higher, scaled down tops
10. Symmetrical, round window higher, same height tops
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11. Totally simmetrical, same height tops
12. Totally simmetrical, same height tops, all in red
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13. Totally simmetrical, same height tops, switched textures
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Thank you!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: peperodriguez2710 on June 24, 2016, 01:54:57 AM
Wow, they look marvelous, it's very hard to find flaws on them!
As a personal opinion, I prefer the rest over the #6 and #7; though they look fantastic too.  I think this model could go really well in the typical main town squares found in towns and villages around Spain where the church, town hall and most powerful families had their homes; but that town emptied eventually because people moved to big cities like Madrid, Barcelona and Valencia and those families were a bit in decadence (and their homes too). I simply love your work, you really bring the spirit of our cities years ago.
Keep it up!  &apls


PD:
Gracias a ti podré recrear el pueblo de mi familia, pues pese a estar en pleno siglo XXI, hay una barbaridad de casas que son exactamente como las tuyas. ¡Eres el p*to amo! Saludos  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on June 24, 2016, 02:56:17 AM
So many options but. . . ::) . . .  being a sucker for symmetry I think #11 with high round window and higher top would be pretty neat. In addition maybe an asymmetrical variant, like #5, would be nice too. Maybe even make the doors different from each other, or perhaps even just 1 door? And then switch textures for the two variants. . ?  Or for another symmetrical design have the round window in the middle, flanked by two ornamental windows?  :-\
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 24, 2016, 09:24:23 AM
peperodriguez2710: Thank you!! That was exactly my intention, I wanted to reproduce the architecture and ambience of old towns in Spain avoiding the "Españolada". The most difficult part is doing it as "neutral" as possible, so you can use the buildings to build cities based in ones all around Spain and South America.
I'm glad you can use them!  ;)

vortext: Yes, there are so many options.  ::)
I did a lot, and I didn't want to leave any out. I didn't know which way to choose.
So, If I have understood you correctly, your options were #5 only with one door, and #8 (by the description, #11 with higher round window, higher tops is #8)
Result:
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15. Asymmetrical, normal window, same height top, one door, switched textures
16. Symmetrical, round window higher, higher tops, switched textures
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Perhaps I could use the asymmetrical version for 1x1 lots and the symmetrical for the 1x2...

Then you wrote about having the round window in the middle... *positive hmmmmm...*
17. Symmetrical, round window in the middle, higher tops
18. Symmetrical, round window in the middle, higher tops, switched textures
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0608%2520Quaroni_zpsils6pxow.jpg&hash=26e8ca70763db273d5c1c5df64ff615baa4a3ac7)
I hope you were referring to these windows.


Thank you very much for your help! More suggestions will be welcomed!  :laugh:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: manga rivotra on June 24, 2016, 11:02:41 AM
I apologize if you have already mentioned before, but I have some questions: is it that this house has only 1 unit, 1 apartment per level, or more? I would also like know what kind of room is lit by the round windows: a bathroom or interior staircase leading upstairs, or something else?
In any case, all are great but I prefer the '04 '06 and '12  :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 24, 2016, 11:24:08 AM
manga rivotra: Sorry, I think I didn't mention it before. This facades are supposed to be for a building with one apartment per level. At this time every home needed one direct access to the street to be considered as an independent unit, that's why they have two doors. The round window lits the staircase to the second floor in all the models but the last ones, where it is part of the living room. Art-Noveau homes could have those kind of unusual things. Thank you for your help!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: matias93 on June 24, 2016, 07:55:11 PM
Definitely the 4th option. That bull's eye window deserves an enhanced place at the facade. And considering it is low wealth, some mismatching is acceptable: many houses could have been unwisely modified after they get abandoned by the original owners, so the conjoined style tends to be lost.

At least, that is what has happened in Santiago's 19th century high wealth neigbourhoods (particularly Yungay and Dieciocho): houses reconverted to commerce, with widened windows on street level and shutted windows inmediately upstairs, or houses that became conventillos, with mended, mismatching windows and weird colour patterns by non coordinated paintings.

As reference: Centro Cultural Nave (right) and its adjacent building in Yungay, Santiago.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.radiozero.cl%2Fconcurso-santiago-en-20%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F09%2Fnave-1-de-5-1100x733.jpg&hash=c21318e27d2746ef0c9f7d139cec88c9e1977acd)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vortext on June 25, 2016, 03:33:47 AM
Yes I meant those windows on the round window middle option, I quite like it. Also like the asymmetrical variant as well, the one the left here (http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y437/romualdillo/0606%20Quaroni_zps6xj9tacv.jpg).
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: bombardiere on June 26, 2016, 01:44:59 PM
My favourities are 2 and 12.

I like that round window and it fits nicely on the right, but I think it should be on that higher postion. It looks like a fancy stairwell corridor window.

And number 12 because I am in for symmetrical architecture. I guess I have played too much with Georigian stuff, but I like its elegant simplicity. :) I chose the red version, because I am not sure would those multicoloured blocks work well in SC4 environment. It could pixelate and look jagged in the game.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on July 24, 2016, 04:02:24 PM
Well, I think enough time has passed to make a decision...  :D I'm sorry I've been absent for almost a month but I've been really busy and I think I'm going to be in that situation for the next months. Anyway, I'm still active and I keep working on my models, but I have only little time.

After counting your votes and reading your comments and suggestions, I think I'm going to use #18 (vortext's suggestion) for the two-story R$ 8x24 version. I really like the idea and I think it could look great. Don't worry about the "colourful" stones, they won't be so colourful.  #4 will be used in a new shape I'm working on, a two story R$ 8x12 version for 1x1 lots. #2 is very similar, but I like #4 most. Now I'll have to think about the corner version...

matias93: I know what you say, those phenomena were very common in lots of Spanish cities and towns. Fortunately they have become less usual after the renovation of most cities' old cores, but there's still a lot of work to do. I didn't think about it when I made the facade, just because art-nouveau facades were anti-classical and aimed to break the architectural rules.

In the next pictures you'll see the new R$ shape and the first colour variations (blue houses). I hope you like them!! See you!

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0609%2520Casas_zps1rk9quem.jpg&hash=8a7a1614a7c4ee21ea7eb30a65d028e9338ea57e)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0610%2520Casas_zpsiqeosenv.jpg&hash=f44d90538a8f48e9743abb9f7be5e19136d3d112)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0611%2520Casas_zpsxiulmds5.jpg&hash=009e7dd1d1da260de95626224a9f5a32b19272f9)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0612%2520Casas_zpsau7w4kur.jpg&hash=0c436832e9cd86426d2cb3cb30ae3c7cd175f129)


Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: kbieniu7 on July 25, 2016, 02:36:52 AM
Amazing work, especially like Themistokles once has said, you've spent so much time with this set and thus made it big enough to create a whole city with just itself!  &apls

And, as bombardiere has said, their style are not much fitting to northern Europe - obviously, its an inspiration from your "backyard" ;) but I have a feeling, some of those houses might fit, if somebody builds a Hungarian-styled town too :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: noahclem on July 25, 2016, 04:29:04 AM
Beautiful work as always  &apls &apls   Great to see you're still active!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: matias93 on July 25, 2016, 09:12:45 AM
Your dedication to detail is simply amazing, I can even guess how rooms are internally distributed on the inside (lots of rented rooms, of course).


And fairly, it was wise to omit the bull's eye window this time: it looks like a medium or even high wealth home could profit more from it.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on July 25, 2016, 05:40:57 PM
kbieniu7: Thank you!! It's interesting that you mention that, because you made me think about the movie "Evita", that was filmed in Budapest (if I'm not mistaken)... So there should be some similarities to Buenos Aires, and it's said that Buenos Aires is very similar to Madrid, so there might be some relation, perhaps some French influence, perhaps the "Oriental" influence, perhaps the climate... I think I'm going to investigate through several Hungarian towns...  ;)

noahclem: Thank you!! Still going strong!  :P

matias93: Thank you!! So, if I understood you correctly you think that the bullseye window is too ornate for a R$ building... Well you may be right... or not... The facade was the most important part of a building at that time and most people dedicated most of their efforts and money in building a good facade, even workmen... In Spain is spoken about "modernismo obrero" (Working-class Art-Nouveau). When a working-class family could afford a small lot (normally 8x20m, they could be smaller or bigger) to build their house (or two houses), they normally built a simple traditional structure, but with a strongly ornated facade "à la mode" built with pre-made industrial-produced ornaments. The decorative solutions increased if the owner was a builder himself. So this kind of things were not too strange. This point was less visible in bigger rental buildings, whose purpose was making money. You can still see this kind of buildings on the outskirts of Barcelona, Valencia (Cabanyal), Melilla, Ceuta, Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, Santa Cruz de Tenerife or the former colonial towns of Castillejos, Larache, Tetuán or even Tanger in Morocco. There are other examples, but these are my main references. Even the "casas chorizo" in Argentina were built the same way. I don't know Chile as much as Argentina, so I can't speak of it, but some Chilean cities totally look like cities in Northern Spain (Galicia, Asturias or Cantabria), especially Valparaíso. I like this kind of discussions, I like to know different visions and opinions about my work.

Well, I think we have different options again... Remember these are R$ facades, I would like to know your opinion, I prefer the round window options, but if most of you think the other options are better, I'll accept it.  :thumbsup:

Asymmetrical (8x12 R$ shape, one dwelling, ignore the second door)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0617%2520Quaroni_zpsizfl3vex.jpg&hash=94374019d78bf1952229967cb17510945e06884e)

Symmetrical (8x24 R$ shape, two dwellings)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0615%2520Quaroni_zpslt7cpmx1.jpg&hash=cad10a6151a3e59ca82672a4f918cf535e8baa99)

This was left behind in my previous post, it will be the inner yard of the Neo-Mudexar? House. It's an experiment with photorealistic textures, I still have to test it in G-max.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0616%2520Neomudeacutejar_zpsztzckbdl.jpg&hash=4b3f0082283612dc8dad7ef54f47f8707c8e9bf3)

A new colour variation I made today (house in the middle):

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0613%2520Casas_zpsnra3s9nq.jpg&hash=93a2a9583586b4bb71aa56f934c89556a035055f)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1274.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy437%2Fromualdillo%2F0614%2520Casas_zpshyjssyry.jpg&hash=5003d5deb07f2becae8418f5e20268724c7e568e)

I hope you like it and please tell me your opinion!!  ;)

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: matias93 on July 25, 2016, 10:45:26 PM
That was, in fact, what I said. I thought that such heavily ornated window wouldn't match a worker's house, but your description changes everything, so I'll go for the fourth option this time.

Here in Chile, most workers 'arrived late' to modernism (and to cities), mainly around the 1940s, so most buildings with an Art-Noveau style were made for rich people, or maybe some middle class professional. In any case, this country praises itself on its seriousness, so the predominant tastes weren't flamboyant structures nor trendy styles, but mainly neoclassical buildings, with strong french influences and already outmoded at the time. The few counterexamples were houses of european inmigrants.

For the middle class, the most sophisticated design available was something like this: one floor W2W building with some mouldings to distinguish itself from the plain mortar of the adjacent houses (click for the map):

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5vp0sMY.png&hash=be8b209c11fee7278ea236009b48dcb23fc95778) (https://www.google.cl/maps/@-33.4603118,-70.6347748,3a,62.1y,255.73h,88.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdalPwHfnP4lWZ1qM1rWFRQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)


In fact, as most workers got houses of their own by the 1940s, there was a sharp divide between styles along class lines: whom were already rich on that period stuck with old european themes, while middle class and workers veered firmly towards modernism, mainly because the State built on those styles, avoiding instances of self-building until the 1960s. For example, this social housing building, as early as 1939:


(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8298/7835814182_dac4b58cd0_b.jpg)


As a bottom line, probably one of the main reasons to keep styles very spartan was the certitude that earthquakes would tore down all buildings every 25 years or so, no matter the class of the owners. Now reinforced concrete helps, but when building one always knows that everything will have to be, at least, repaired after the next earthquake.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: kbieniu7 on July 26, 2016, 03:35:12 AM
Quote from: romualdillo on July 25, 2016, 05:40:57 PM
kbieniu7: Thank you!! It's interesting that you mention that, because you made me think about the movie "Evita", that was filmed in Budapest (if I'm not mistaken)... So there should be some similarities to Buenos Aires, and it's said that Buenos Aires is very similar to Madrid, so there might be some relation, perhaps some French influence, perhaps the "Oriental" influence, perhaps the climate... I think I'm going to investigate through several Hungarian towns...  ;)

Unfortunately, I haven't seen this movie, so I couldn't relate to it. But, if I think about influence, I guess, it's more austrian-related (which might have taken something from oriental stylings). I mean, they're not same-looking as your Spanish housings, obviously, but I think they have something in common, like ornaments in very small tenements (in contrary, in Poland it's much less often, I think) and gray, grayish-white or grayish-yellow tones.

Here are some examples, which I have found with Google Street View. Hungarian and Romanian (post-hungarian) towns.

Hungary:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@46.8830083,17.4440194,3a,75y,46.11h,89.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1so9HmSV0-pL7a5CVV-naNFg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.pl/maps/@46.6573838,20.2572827,3a,75y,201.07h,95.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siN-BAeUjitvD_yGL61q1hQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.pl/maps/@46.6491624,20.2577155,3a,75y,184.34h,87.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swwsXu2lwkyjV5x7Bl-elLg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.pl/maps/@47.6636829,19.0761606,3a,89.5y,265.57h,82.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svYyUMS1ty-Ah68dK5QYJIw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Western Romania:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@45.4099563,22.2193739,3a,75y,205.52h,79.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5BcWMDRQ0JbH-q-eUfXRAg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=pl

https://www.google.pl/maps/@46.6663363,22.3528411,3a,75y,158.14h,99.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdgEKX0ro1d5OLjE1faMbVw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=pl

I have feeling, like I'm a bit off-topicing, but I hope you excuse me for that. I was in Spain just for several hours while landing in Girona and taking a train to France, so I could add more from eastern european architectural point of view, than my spanish experience  ::) But, anyway, I think, that somebody from Hungary would be able to say something better about this (off)topic :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on July 26, 2016, 06:14:32 AM
matias93: Of course every country develops in its own way, and there might be differences. I've been looking around the neighbourhood, and there are several examples that could fit in both middle or working-class. The intention was making difficult to guess the social condition of its owner. I think I'm going off-topic, but I like speaking about these things. I spoke about working-class families that could afford to buy a lot, so they were not strictly part of the lowest class, but they were not middle class either. Building a house was a life-project, and bricks were bought in installments (in fact, my gradfather's first job was going house by house collecting the money for the bricks). Families that couldn't afford to buy a lot or a house rented a flat or some rooms (or a room). My intention is doing collective buildings, too, but I made the basic buildings first.  ;)
BTW: The "Hermanitas de los Pobres" home in Carmen street looks very interesting...  ::)

kbieniu7: I'm not sure... Shapes, roofs and proportions are different, but details and colours might be similar. There is also some Italian influence, too... Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps... I must say that I've been looking some Russian buildings that could fit perfectly... It may sound a bit weird, but I think it all depends on shape and proportions...  ;)
Don't worry about your experience, every opinion is welcomed. There are also strong differences between Northern, Middle and Southern Spain, so there are lots of possibilities.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Alan_Waters on July 26, 2016, 09:15:56 AM
Moscow:
https://www.google.com/maps/@55.7562442,37.6294817,3a,75y,128.05h,102.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQaaT_zy-_e3llythI_Snfg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=pl
https://www.google.com/maps/@55.7589618,37.6287689,3a,75y,52.08h,92.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sB8AQF9nu-mPC0L19E0Umwg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=pl
https://www.google.com/maps/@55.7636098,37.6291276,3a,75y,293.53h,97.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFqSG6bQSlrT-hkVTkvzzGQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=pl
https://www.google.com/maps/@55.7618948,37.6317618,3a,75y,71.04h,101.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stpAco1lkkN7lLRshHOAo3g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=pl
https://www.google.com/maps/@55.747936,37.5864903,3a,75y,345.88h,91.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seAF2G3bhI2Bj6_T0SchjFA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=pl
https://www.google.com/maps/@55.7488181,37.5892663,3a,75y,332.5h,94.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA-cMQjwscnhTDf-I9Tccjw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=pl
https://www.google.com/maps/@55.7490533,37.5901074,3a,75y,146.42h,88.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIVPDE5a2XV1pKhZOZD09FA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=pl
https://www.google.com/maps/@55.7492551,37.5908397,3a,75y,335.15h,97.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3I9ZaYOokXUbOEsR91JuuQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=pl
I do not know, this is something that interests you or not, but it shows the old architecture of the center of Moscow. Sincerely.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: bombardiere on July 28, 2016, 01:25:33 AM
Quote from: romualdillo on July 25, 2016, 05:40:57 PM

matias93: Thank you!! So, if I understood you correctly you think that the bullseye window is too ornate for a R$ building... Well you may be right... or not... The facade was the most important part of a building at that time and most people dedicated most of their efforts and money in building a good facade, even workmen... In Spain is spoken about "modernismo obrero" (Working-class Art-Nouveau). When a working-class family could afford a small lot (normally 8x20m, they could be smaller or bigger) to build their house (or two houses), they normally built a simple traditional structure, but with a strongly ornated facade "à la mode" built with pre-made industrial-produced ornaments. The decorative solutions increased if the owner was a builder himself. So this kind of things were not too strange. This point was less visible in bigger rental buildings, whose purpose was making money. You still can see this kind of buildings on the outskirts of Barcelona, Valencia (Cabanyal), Melilla, Ceuta, Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, Santa Cruz de Tenerife or former colonial towns of Castillejos, Larache, Tetuán or even Tanger in Morocco. There are other examples, but these are my main references. Even the "casas chorizo" in Argentina were built the same way. I don't know Chile as much as Argentina, so I can't speak of it, but some Chilean cities totally look like cities in Northern Spain (Galicia, Asturias or Cantabria), especially Valparaíso. I like this kind of discussions, I like to know different visions and opinions about my work.

Well, I think we have different options again... Remember these are R$ facades, I would like to know your opinion, I prefer the round window options, but if most of you think the other options are better, I'll accept it.  :thumbsup:


This is actually a problem for me. A building is a building but what is a wealth? :) Or more precisely how it shows on an average street? Especially as I do historical buildings.

A modern luxury apartment tower is very different from a council housing block, but what about an historical building that has passed on many generations? A wealth and desirability of particular area can change, but the building can be there for 100s of years.

For example, I draw inspiration from London's Spitalfield area. Just east of the City. During its heyday in late 18th century, the French Hugenots settled in that area and established a silk weaving industry. So they were what I feel could be called as the middle class, many probable well-to-do, so houses they built would be R$$ and some bigger ones may be R$$$.

But hundred years onwards by mid and late 19th century the Spitalfield was a notorious Victorian slum and famous Jack the Ripper murder happened around this area. The buildings were the same, but converted into a boarding rooms.

Then again today The Spitalfield area has become fashionable and anyway the housing prices has gone through the roof in London  and you basically need to be a multimillionaire to buy a house in Central London.

So I have a dilemma here. The same building, but three possible wealth levels, R$, R$$ and R$$$. So how would I differniate  wealth levels in the SC4 game context?

Size could be a factor. Poorer people has less space to live. Then the textures to show that the building is not being taken care of. Also this could have less details and perhaps some of the earlier decoration has been broken off. A wealthy person could have a nice garden in the backyard, but boarding room owner would probably build ramshackle extensions and shacks on every available space.

This is both exiting and frustrating. :D How to get those minor details to show up in the game, so that a vision in my head would be visible to everyone?  :-\
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: matias93 on July 28, 2016, 01:34:43 PM
Props, tons of props!


When a luxury house is converted into rented rooms (conventillo, casa chorizo, whatever), many subtle modifications have to be done: windows and doors are walled or converted to each other, new walls are added, which are visible from the outside, there are more chimneys on the roof, gardens are usually converted into tiled or cemented yards, with utilitarian props on them (hanging clothing, basins, building tools, surplus materials, logs for heating, etc) and the quality of materials goes down, with mismatched roof plates, paint colours or exposed masonry.


I could post dozens of RL references, with before and after photos, but I'm sure we all have seen them first-hand (except maybe rural US based forumers, this is a very urban phenomenon)

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on July 28, 2016, 04:22:51 PM
I think it is really hard to do.  :'( Of course the game has its own way to recreate dilapidation, you may like it or not, but it has. C.P. has his own realistic method (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=16509.0) which works pretty good when the lot gets abandoned, but the fact is that the game allows only two-stage props (ON/OFF). Multiple stage props got abandoned during the game development due to their memory requirements. If this were the case, we could have different models for each lot's or building's state: In use, abandoned, dilapidated, Christmas time, night, summer, winter... But these are the game's limitations. Another point is that we have only three social classes, which also limits the realism of buildings. If we had R$-1, R$-2, R$-3, my R$ buildings would be R$-3 or even R$$-1, but we can only simulate that... The problem is that an overcrowded slum (conventillo, ciudadela, corrala...) is more attractive for the game than the supposed R$-3 buildings. I plan to do denser and deeper R$ (and even R$$) buildings (with some income changes), but I don't feel very comfortable about doing supposedly dilapidated buildings, although I think they could look good in a themed neighbourhood. I'm going to consider that, but in my opinion it's really complicated to get a good result, and the game mechanics don't help at all. You'll need to use a lot your plugins folder to controle growth. As bombardiere said is really tricky to represent wealth in historic buildings.
I think we all would be REALLY happy if the game could get actualized with multiple stage lots, more social classes, real HD, improved water mechanics (and even reflections), customizable zoning, perhaps some regional policies, and decrypted electric wires...  :D But this will never happen,  &mmm and this is already a GREAT game which already allows you to do a lot of things.  ()stsfd()
I think I've written more in these last three posts than in all my history in this forum...  :D 
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Akallan on July 28, 2016, 04:30:25 PM
Well, what work! It's impressive, you even redone the streets! And the houses are very close to those that can be found in the ancient villages of Sud Italy, with power lines! ()stsfd() It's very beautiful, but they are not downloaded?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on August 08, 2016, 04:12:30 PM
Akallan: Thank you!! The street texture is not mine, Vortext is working on it, and he sent me a beta version. I hope he can finish it soon  ::)  :D.
The power lines are included in my prop pack. I didn't put them on the lots, because other users may want to combine them with other lots, and they wouldn't look good together.
After several attempts I finally got something out of the new facades. I hope you like them. I'll be out for the next two weeks, so I won't be able to post anything until then. See you!

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Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: korver on August 08, 2016, 06:17:43 PM
The new facades look great, keep up the good work :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 05, 2017, 12:54:11 PM
Hi folks!
I'm sorry this is not an update but an apology, as I haven't post anything during the last... 5 months! I'm very sorry for that, but RL has taken me away from the game and the forum. I also had to purchase a new computer and I haven't installed the game by now. I know it's such a process with windows 10 and if I want the BAT to run properly I'll need a bit of time to finish what I'm doing at the moment and prepare everything to get back to work. I hope everything is OK with all of you, and as soon as I have something new I'll be posting again.
See you!
;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Silur on February 05, 2017, 09:23:58 PM
Excellent news. Good luck  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: compdude787 on February 06, 2017, 10:18:23 AM
Welcome back! You'll have to buy a digital copy of SC4 if you want it to work on Windows 10. Whatever you do, don't buy it on Origin. Not only does the BAT not work on an Origin copy of the game, but Origin is currently selling an unpatched and unpatchable version of the game--again. Get it from GOG or Amazon; those versions are DRM free.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Sciurus on February 06, 2017, 10:55:08 AM
Hi romualdillo !

[/size]I'm glad to see that you're back soon to BAT ! I just wonder how you do miror BATs without having any glitch problems with your textures...

Hope to see other news soon. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: JP Schriefer on February 07, 2017, 07:46:50 AM
Welcome back :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: bombardiere on February 08, 2017, 07:55:13 AM
Quote from: romualdillo on February 05, 2017, 12:54:11 PM
. I know it's such a process with windows 10 and if I want the BAT to run properly I'll need a bit of time to finish what I'm doing at the moment and prepare everything to get back to work.


I changed to windows 10 with my new computer last autumn. You need a digital SC4, but otherwise I had no issues with SC4 or programs I need for batting. Well, some dll was needed for PIM-X, but that I usual I guess. And I need run everything as Admin, which is annoying. 3DS MAX render can't update the model (LOD) files in the plugin folder, unless I run 3DS MAX as an Admin. I guess Microsoft idea of security is when the user can't do anything with the computer. :D

I do prefer Windons 7 and may I install it later, but yeah I think I can live with the Windows 10. As long as I don't think what kind of info it sends about myself to Seattle.  ::)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 12, 2017, 09:43:14 AM
Silur: Thank you!
compdude787: Thank you! I solved the issue and everything seems to work fine.  ;)
Sciurus: Thank you! They have no texture problems just because I render the mirrored models in BAT, so they are "real" models.  ;D
Schriefer: Thank you!
bombardiere: Thank you! I experienced the same problems as you, but I think they're all solved.  ;)

As I said before, I installed everything again and all programs seem to work fine. Playing the game now is like seeing the world through new glasses, I think I'll have to get used to the new appearance. I would say it looks much better now, but I've discovered some visual "glitches" I didn't see in my old computer but I could see in your images when using my stuff. It's some kind of LODs' conflict, so I'm reworking my lots and I'm going to update my older files.

I still don't have anything new to show, I'm sorry...  &mmm 
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 12, 2017, 05:13:33 PM
Sorry for the double post, but I rendered the first building in my new computer, and it looks a bit different to the other buildings. I think it has something to do with gamma correction or the new graphics card, because the building looks now exactly as exported from Sketchup. Gmax doesn't "burn" colours anymore, and even the lights look a bit different now. I like the new aspect but I don't know if it looks too dark compared to the previous buildings (or too dark at all). Shadows and details also seem to be more defined... I think I'm going to try lighter textures.

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So, what do you think?

But now I have other problem...

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It should be the mirrored version of the building, but it looks like that in zoom levels 5 and 6. In the other levels it looks normal.

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I think there's something wrong in the way Gmax organizes the FSH and S3D files, they don't follow the usual order I'm used to. I've rendered 5 diferent models and all of them have the same Group number, but different Instance number (10000, 20000, 30000, 40000, 50000). I need some help with that. The only model following the usual order is model with Instance number 30000, which was the Instance number of all the buildings I redered before. Does anyone know how to solve this?

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simmer2 on February 13, 2017, 08:18:18 AM
Hello romualdillo

Try the script at the bottom of my post.

Simply copy/paste it over the old script found in \gmax\gamepacks\BAT\scripts.

Nick
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on February 13, 2017, 09:03:16 AM
Thank you Simmer2! I'll try it later.  ;)

EDIT: It worked fine, thank you!  &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: manga rivotra on February 22, 2017, 08:26:23 AM
For me it does not look so dark if you consider that it is not a "R $$$ lot", and the color is very interesting.  :)
I love the water running marks below the windowsill and on the stones also, very finely executed.  &apls &apls &apls
Nice to see you're back !  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Edvarz on March 08, 2017, 11:28:50 AM
I'm late to the fray but whatever. It's really nice to see you back! Your models are all fantastic, I'm already using stuff from your prop pack. I'm always eager to see what you come up with next, keep up the great work! :) &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 08, 2017, 03:46:30 PM
Thank you both!!

I'm writing again just to announce that I'll be returning again gradually. All the issues of RL that prevented me from BATting are finally gone, and I've started again with my models. I've had problems with shadows and lights lately. I think I'm solving them, but sometimes it gets really annoying. I have plans and ideas to start a city, but I'd like to finish all my uncompleted projects before...
See you soon!!
;)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Tyberius06 on June 08, 2017, 08:59:10 PM
Hi!

I'm happy that you are returning.
Right now I'm spending my holiday in Spain as a little round trip, couple of city breaking (Madrid-Valencia-Gandia-Mallorca-Ibiza), and I've already got some city planning inspiration. My question are you planning to make some spanish style churches? The Cathedral of Valencia and Mallorca are really beautiful, but I found many very nice building both Madrid and Valencia. Anyway I've seen just a very little part of Spain, but my favourite city is Barcelona so far, speaking about architecture.
But I'm planning to discover more and more about Spain.

- Tyberius
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on June 09, 2017, 03:15:21 AM
Good to hear you are on your way back to batting.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: praiodan on June 10, 2017, 10:16:44 AM
Oh, you're teasing us! Good to hear you are back.  :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: c.p. on June 11, 2017, 09:21:08 AM
Nice to see you're back and resuming your projects :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 27, 2017, 07:37:43 AM
Thank you all!!
Tyberius06: I plan doing some churches and cathedrals of Spain. I also plan modelling buildings from Madrid and Barcelona. I hope you enjoyed your trip to Spain! There are lots of things to see out of the best known places. Northern Spain is really beautiful and it's not so known (except for Santiago de Compostela).

I'm really frustrated now. BAT started to make some annoying rendering errors and I don't know what else do. I thought it was due to the last Windows update, but I removed the update and nothing changed. I reinstalled BAT, and it didn't work. I tried other files and models and after the first test render it starts again and again. Textures get lost in the render and lights don't work properly. Everything worked fine until last friday...

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This is the issue, textures can be rendered in black or in the diffuse colour, shadows may disappear completely and lights behave as if there were no walls. Does anyone know how to solve it? Thank you in advance!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: JP Schriefer on June 27, 2017, 08:46:07 AM
Did you already try to reverse/flip the faces?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 27, 2017, 09:27:47 AM
Yes, I tried, but it didn't help. The image was only an example, textures appear or disappear more or less randomly (There are textures that tend to vanish more than others and not in every render). Normally first test render looks OK, but then problems start... Thank you for your help!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Simmer2 on June 27, 2017, 09:45:02 AM
On the right side of the panel there is a button named "Resource collector", click on it and wait till Gmax is done.
Do a preview, if it still not working then close and open the project again and try.

It does happen to me sometimes after working on a project for a while, I just close it and open it again and render away after doing a preview to make sure all is good.

Nick
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on June 27, 2017, 12:48:00 PM
Have a you tried to start with a new scene and merge in the old model ?

That sometimes do wonder. Not sure how, but it words for range of different problems.


Is it just this model or also some new ?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 27, 2017, 05:08:50 PM
Thank you guys for your answers! I tried both systems, and things went a bit better... for some time... The program is still unstable, I don't know if it's because of the models or the gmax... After a while it can't find cameras (Z5, Z4, etc.), can't save, can't render... I've set affinity with only one CPU, but still has problems with lights... I think it's not about the poly-count, because it has the same problems with previously rendered models... It's really annoying...  :thumbsdown:...
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: bombardiere on June 28, 2017, 09:05:56 AM
I am just guessing, but I think the problem is with GMAX program. It look like it has lost camera and/or light rig set up.  ()what()

May be the windows upgrade overwrite something crucial. You should try to install GMAX again.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 28, 2017, 11:10:08 AM
I installed GMAX again, and it didn't work, but I think I found the problem... Textures... There's something wrong about texture managing. I think I'll have to cut down the number of textures I normally use in my projects to make it work again...
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: mattb325 on June 28, 2017, 04:27:43 PM
Arrrggh. That is a problem. How many textures are you using to run into that sort of issue?
That said there is something amiss with gmax. The right click menu no longer works on mine, and ceased to work years ago even on a blank scene (it reveals the menu for about a millisecond, then disappears making it all but unusable). I hope that works - I used to have scenes with up to 50 textures work OK
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on June 29, 2017, 09:38:38 AM
Quote from: mattb325 on June 28, 2017, 04:27:43 PM
Arrrggh.
That REALLY sums up my frustration. In this last model I was using a lot of textures I had to reduce. But another problem is exporting from sketchup to 3ds, because the program "splits" textures over complex shapes, multiplying the number of textures. The good thing is that I finally succeeded in making textures work, and older models seem to work again without problems (After uninstalling, installing again, setting compatibility, CPU affinity and all those things), but lights are still behaving weirdly. I can put exactly 4 Omni lights in the model without problems, but then they start having problems with shadow casting...

EDIT: I've tested other new models from sketchup with less textures and polys and the program has the same problems, I'm really frustrated with all this... I don't know what else do... I'll have to simplify my models to make them work again, but I'm not in the mood of doing that now... Something affected the program's stability, but after a week I wasn't able to find the issue...
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on July 10, 2017, 12:36:21 PM
Yes, I've been seduced... I feel like I betrayed Simcity4  :'(

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As I had to buy a new computer, due to the Gmax issues which drive me mad, and the Summer offer, I decided to give CS a try. But I plan combining both activities. I´ll keep rendering for SC4, as I need high poly meshes to bake the normal maps and I'm going to use the textures I'll create for CS to reduce the texture number for Gmax and so prevent rendering fails. I think I'm going to release smaller packs, to make it easier.

I hope you don't mind...  :-\
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: reddonquixote on July 11, 2017, 12:14:14 AM
Traitor!  $%Grinno$%

But I totally get it... 3DS Max 2017 is wreaking havoc with my ability to export SC4 BATs successfully. What was previously an exasperating part of the BATing process is now right on the verge of being totally inoperable.

Unless we can start getting all the tools to work compatibly together again, BATing for SC4 is truly going to die out...

These images look quite amazing btw  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: vester on July 11, 2017, 03:18:37 AM
I am using Max 2017 to model due to the unwrap modifier in 2014 is not working.
Think 2014 is the last version where bat4max works proper.

Romualdillo: Is that one of your models in that picture ?
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: seraf on July 11, 2017, 07:25:22 AM
I'm still using my MaxDesign 2012, it's old but it works :)
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Dantes on July 11, 2017, 07:49:13 AM
Oh no  ;D You betray Simcity  :D
Shame on you! *joke*
Nice work again!  &apls &apls &apls
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on July 11, 2017, 07:57:18 AM
Renders are now pretty unstable, but reducing tris and textures works (at least it's what works for me), so I'll combine both activities, using textures for CS to render the SC4 models. CS is visually incredible, but I still find SC4 has better features... (I guess CS will be a method for viewing my creations in other perspective)
reddonquixote: Thank you!
vester: Yes, I've been doing some recycling...  :D
seraf: I had it, but I lost it...  &mmm
Dantes: Thank you!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: Dantes on July 11, 2017, 08:39:57 AM
Do not give up! You managed to program! And you can create great art!
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on October 01, 2018, 03:05:13 PM
*blowing out the dust...* COUGH, COUGH... :P

Hello my fellow forumers! I'm back (sort of...)  :-[

I've been inactive for a certain time because of RL events and, as you might remember (if not, I'll refresh your memory), because I was really upset due to gmax modelling and rendering issues. It got necessary to redo all my models in order to reduce the poly count, if I wanted to reuse and complete my series, allowing gmax to render the models correctly. I also tried CS, and loved it, but I still think simulation in SC4 is way much better than CS' one.

You're surely thinking why I continue going around the same models again and again. Do I suffer from a severe case of OCD?  ??? 
Well I can't discard it  :D, but as I intend to make a big Spanish based steampunk city (Alphonsine Steampunk? :P), I need a good urban background to make it realistic, and these series where the best option to build them in the shortest time possible.
-But, if you're redoing them again and again, wouldn't it be better modelling unique buildings instead of series?  :-\
Well, knowing myself (and without discarding the OCD), as long as my modelling and texturing skills improve, I would be tempted to improve my models as well, so we come back to the same problem. I'm a perfectionist and there's little I can do...  &mmm

Back to the models... Some time ago, some of you were the opinion that my R$ buildings looked too good to be R$... They were better suited  for R$$... I tried to explain that in Spain there was some kind of "workers' Art Nouveau": Working class people put all their efforts in decorating their houses' façades with ceramic tiles and/or industrial manufactured concrete ornaments, while the interiors were not that good. As a certain amount of money was required, those people were not that poor, but they weren't "middle class" neither... Nevertheless I heard you, and made more R$ looking houses. My first thought was combining them with the other R$ houses, but I would like to know your opinion. Should I make these models R$, R$$ and R$$$ or only R$ and R$$? What do you think?

Examples:

New R$ Houses

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R$ to upgrade to R$$... A good option?

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Each residential unit has 170 m2 (1830 ft2) more or less... So I think it would be realistic for a pre-war middle class house...

R$$ to upgrade to R$$$... Same...

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Each residential unit has 340 m2 (3660 ft2) more or less...

So, what do you think?

P.S: I didn't intend in any way to make fun of peolple suffering from OCD. It's a serious illness, so if I hurted anyone's feelings, I apologize in advance.
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: mattb325 on October 01, 2018, 07:13:16 PM
I suspect you may end up offending a lot of the forum-goers with OCD remarks  ;).

Not me, however, because you have shown us such wonderful gems. These little houses are just beautiful  :thumbsup:

I take it you were able to resolve the 3ds/gmax issues from prior? Great to see you back at the bat.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: romualdillo on October 02, 2018, 07:21:47 AM
 &ops

Yes I finally could solve it... (I hope). :) Reducing polys was the solution, but I wasn't in the mood to redo all the models at that moment. :'(

I forgot to upload this image in my last post, is my first attempt at doing a shop. I tried to make mixed use lots, but it was impossible.  ()what() Yes, I knew that if the God Modders of SimCity haven't achieved it by now, I surely wouldn't, but I had to try it by myself...  ::). Thus I stated for and by myself that props can't host jobs and "allow joint occupancy" isn't implemented in any way... But dreaming is free...  $%Grinno$%

I was inspired by the RCImulti (https://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/22255-rcimulti-modpack-for-sc4-deluxrushhour/) mod by Niloluiz, really a great mod... But it affects all residential lots.

So, here's the little haberdashery... and dressmaker atelier... Perhaps the luminous signs are too much, but looking at old pictures they were very common...

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More to come, if I have the time for... Ideas and old pictures of shops are welcomed!

Title: Re: romualdillo's little BATs & Problems
Post by: matias93 on October 03, 2018, 04:05:40 AM
Hermosas, realmente hermosas! Y ciertamente, estas nuevas de clase obrera sí te dan un poco más de soltura para hacerlas decididamente en lotes de baja riqueza. Las espero, obviamente, con ansias, al igual que esperamos tu vuelta al foro; es un gusto tenerte por acá!
Beautiful, really beautiful! And certainly, this new working class houses give you more looseness to lot them decisively as low wealth. I'm waiting for them eagerly, just as we waited for you to come back to the forums; it's a pleasure to have you here!