Right, starting with Turn Three, all desicions for the turn will be listed here by the players! This will help organize the game, I believe.
Turn Two Decisions
Areameder: Bought $14,313 in Life Neccessity products from imports. Paid $3,000 for
10 Edward Ezamsi Street (1x3 Plot.)
Garvei: Bought $17,313 in Life Neccessity products from imports
Harvey: 90% of Vegetables grown this turn to be imported ($2,880 - left with $320)
Meade: Got job as Supervisor at the Geothermal Plant with a base salary of $1,800
Terrell: Bought
1 Jalmi Lane (4x4 Plot) for $16,000. Random rolled 10% bonus on base salary ($180.)
You for got the land I bought. :P Or can I not afford it this turn?
Hehe, no you can, I had updated before I read your post about the land. I edited in!
Okay thank you. :)
Alright, get your Turn Three desicions In!
Nothing else except for buying the max amount of products. :P
Hey guys, Update Four is almost ready, need those desicions from you! :)
Alright, now that we've split the Life Neccessities in 4 groups, Traders! I need you to tell me how much of each you would like to buy. The Default will be to evenly split it, but starting from Turn Four, I will be rolling for each Life Neccessity group - 1 of them will get bonus every turn that will double the markup. This applies for farmers who are growing those products, too! So if Vegetables gets the bonus, traders get their worth x 50%, and farmers get their worth x 40%!
I would like to buy a plot of land right behind Arameader's on Corner Street, simply for the purpose of sitting on it and possibly renting or redeveloping it in the far future.
Hey Deionn - how big do you want your plot to be. I also didnt get exactly where you wanted it, Areameder's land is inbetween Edward Ezamsi St. and Harvey's farm.
It's hard to explain, but I meant the land ONLY bordering Corner Street, its located to the right of Harvey's house and to the north of an Areameder asset, the size would probably pushing it all the way to 7 Drift Lane, which I think would probably be 2x4
Got it :)
Lots of Desicions to be made! These are the required ones (if there is no response, then I'll just use the default.) Ofcourse, any extra desicions can be put on this board and I'll add it. I've listed the available cash to help out :)
Areameder: $16,246 - Need to know which Life Neccessity products you would like to buy.
Garvei: $15,764 - The electronics showroom will be open next Turn, so I need to know how much you will like to import from overseas. Please note, there will be a 5% tax on all Luxury products import - after which the 40% markup will be added. Also, need to know which Life Neccessity products you would like to buy for your stall. I will relocate your stall accordingly.
Harvey: $5,243 - Your farm produced $3,200 (normal) worth of Vegetables. No desicions to be made.
Martin: $19,100 - Will begin earning his salary in Turn Five. No desicions to be made.
Meade: $9,800 - No desicions to be made.
Terrell: $5,890 - No desicions to be made.
The Rawa'a Primary School will be open in Turn Five! For $1,000 per turn, your character can begin raising his Education Level! Each turn will be a school year, and the Primary School will run from Grade 1 to 8. In 8 turns, your character can raise his Education Level from 0 to 1! This is important because there are a lot of professions coming that cannot be chosen unless the character has reached a specific required level. Very soon, characters will be allowed to open companies in different professions, but will face a penalty of if it is not the primary profession (less markup, more expenses.) So a farmer could open up an architectural firm (if he has reached the required Education Level), but there will be penalties since it isn't his main profession.
For my house choice, can I have house #1? Do I have to wait for the next turn to make other moves besides my house?
No, you can make your desicions now and they will reflect in Turn Five :)
Well, can I buy this plot of land? It looks like a 3 deep, 4 wide plot to me.
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That would be $12,000, right?
Done :)
It is $12,000 - it will be added to your Player Factbook in Turn Five!
Just go with evenly buying them all. Max amount.
Ooh, going to school, sounds fancy. I may be up for that idea.
Right, everything is in order for Update Five, just need peter007 to give me a couple of desicions and we're set for the next round. Waiting on you, Garvei!
Ok, eh
I want to buy
$10000 on luxury products
$5264 on Life Neccessity products
then I have $500 in cash which is for taxes
Alright, looks like I'll be enrolling in the Rawa'a Primary School.
Alright, its that time again - Decisions for Turn Six:
Areameder: $17,493 - Need to know how you want to buy those Life Neccessities.
Garvei: $643 - You got your investment all tied up in your electronics - your sales will be reflected next turn. You can still make a little cash buying up some Life Neccessities for your Stall.
Harvey: $6,482 - Your farm gave you some good reward this turn (30% bonus), which means you have $4,160 worth of Vegetables inventory ready to be sold next turn. Other than that, no decisions are required.
Martin: $7,910 - No bonus this round. No decisions required - although noted about the school!
Meade: $10,610 - No bonus this round. No decisions required - please let me know if you plan on spending any cash.
Terrell: $6,700 - No bonus this round. No decisions required - please let me know if you plan on spending any cash.
I think I want to also enroll in the school, who wants an airhead running their utilities system. :P
I should mention that once your Education Level rises, so will your salary as a Government Employee :)
I would like to enroll in Rawa'a Primary school. That's $500 per turn, correct?
Its $1,000 per turn - and Primary School runs for 8 turns, after which your Education Level jumps to 1 :)
Alrighty then. What kind of salary increase do I get for 1 point?
Well since the town's overall wealth is still at the lowest, it will have the minimum upgrade, which is double the salary.
I would like to buy the 1x2 corner that my stand is currently on. (Which I think will run $2,400?)
Secondly I will enroll in school, (So $1,000 this turn)
I will buy $4,000 on luxury products, to give me some variety, and then $10,000 in life necessity products. (I'm getting a lot of product, I may need to build a store soon. :) )
edit* - If I need to pay for other stuff like taxes just take the amount needed out of the luxury product expenses. . . forgot about that :P
Noted!
One thing about the luxury products - if you go to the information thread, it will list all luxury products for you. The thing about them is you can only sell them out of a store, not a stall. So you'd have to build a store on the new property that you bought, and choose which luxury product you'd like to deal in :)
Right, get your decisions in for Turn Seven!
Areameder: $15,875 - You've bought your new land, and between me and you, I heard the Bank of Dunya is giving out generous rates on their loans ;) Need to know what Life Neccessities you want to buy! (Default is even number through the 4 types.)
Garvei: $1,935 - I'm controlling this character till peter007 gets back from vacation! I've reinvested in his electronics as he managed to sell all of his products last turn.
Harvey: $8,825 - Your Vegetables farm harvested $3,640 worth this turn (10% bonus.) Let me know if you want to do anything with your extra cash!
Martin: $8,062 - $1,000 has been spent on your School Fees!
Meade: $10,780 - $1,000 has been spent on your School Fees!
Terrell: $6,690 - $1,000 has been spent on your School Fees!
Can I extend my property, to make it 5 wide on the street front? The addition would be 3x1, I believe, making my property 3x5. Oh, and how do we apply for a loan, exactly? I might need to apply for one to advance my property plans, depending on the interest rate.
You may extend your property - it will cost $3,000. As for the loan, the Bank of Dunya currently has a fixed rate of 20% over 25 turns (12.5 years), subject to approval, ofcourse.
In that case, can I apply for a $10,000 loan and use that to extend my property for the last time 2 tiles from the back? I believe that would make the extension 2x5, 10 tiles, an $10,000. That way, I would have a 5x5 property downtown in the future. I want to use the loan to get the property before its gone or the land value increases. Of course, that all is depending on the loan.
All I would like to do this turn is buy the maximum amount of life necessity products. Along side that $1000 I'm paying for school
rjet13: so you want to buy the 3x1 plot to the south of your plot, and then additionally take out a loan to acquire the 2x5 plot to the west of your land? No problem with that, just clarifying :)
marsh: Noted :)
Exactly. That's what I want to do.
Done - it will be reflected in the next update!
I will also be gone for about a week, Addison Martin probably will only need to pay bills and loan payments, I assume, though, right?
Right :)
Buying the max amount of life necessity. ::)
Decisions for Turn Eight!
Areameder: Already got your decision - out of cash till the next turn :)
Dave Davis: $12,900 - You've invested in a Large Wooden Fishing Boat, and next turn will reflect your sales from this turn's catch. Otherwise, you have $12,900 to basically invest in whatever you want. A wise investment at this juncture would be land!
Garvei: Since Im handling his character till he gets back from vacation, I spent all his money on Electronics and Life Neccessities!
Harvey: $10,575 - Your Vegetables farm harvested $4,160 worth this turn (30% bonus.) Let me know if you want to do anything with your extra cash!
Martin: $4,734 - $1,000 has been spent on your School Fees!
Meade: $10,950 - $1,000 has been spent on your School Fees!
Terrell: $6,500 - $1,000 has been spent on your School Fees!
I figure Dave Davis should start going to school, since he dropped out early in life to become a California beach bum. I'm also interested in purchasing a plot of land in the business district for the future site of "Smells Fishy" Fish Market/organized crime hangout. Is there something that tells me what land is available and what land is player-owned?
Right, will sign up Davis for school starting next turn. As for the land, I did this map for you, complete with street names and land each player owns. I think its pretty straightforward, all the lands are either fenced or have something built on them.
I also turned on the grid so itll make it easier for you :)
The only thing to note is the dark ground on the corner of Main and Edward Ezamsi Streets, and Main and Madrasa Streets are owned by the government, and thus cant be bought. Otherwise, all the rest are fair game :)
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Fantastic, thank you. Davis will buy the 2x2 plot at the southwest corner of Main Street and Second Street. It's $1,000 per square, correct?
Does the boat (hereafter named "Rawa'a Sunrise") reside at the dock, or is it pulled up onto the beach like those other boats near the dock? If possible, I'd like to pull it onto the beach near the land I'm buying.
Yes, so it's $4,000 total. I'll place your boat next to the beach across the road from your plot :)
Get your decisions for Turn Nine in!
Areameder: $17,436 - Split evenly amongst the 3 Life Neccessities?
Davis: $11,443 - Let me know if you decide to do anything with the cash!
Garvei: Buying up Electronics and Life Neccessities.
Harvey: $13,312 - Your farm produced $3,200 worth of products, which you will sell next turn. In the mean time, let me know if you want to do anything with your cash!
Martin: $4,235 - Let me know if you decide to do anything with the cash!
Meade: $11,300 - Let me know if you decide to do anything with the cash!
Terrell: $6,310 - Let me know if you decide to do anything with the cash!
Yup, even split. Just trying to build up some money atm :P
Hm, I'm contemplating on what I would like to do with the cash. I would like to purchase the 2x2 plot behind that building on Main Street and with its front on First St.
Done! That would be the BuyPlus Supermarket building. 3 First Street is now officially Meade property :)
How much will it cost to construct a 2x2 residence upon my land?
Your typical CP 19th Century R$$ 1x1 is going for $80,000, the 2x1 is going for $100,000, the 2x2 for $120,000. We can go over some numbers and see if your income can handle the loan payments if you're still interested!
I'll get back to you! ;)
Okay, not ready to make that big of a purchase right now. How about I buy a 1x1 plot of land as indicated in red to set up a stand and plant some fruits on my 4x4 land?
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I'd like another income source. I think this will work for the time being.
-Terrell :thumbsup:
Exla357, have a look at the discussion board and let me know what you think!
How many employees does it take to man one of those fancy new commercial fishing boats? And do I wualify for a big enough loan to get one?
It takes 2 Employees + $3,000 Maintenance per month. Forgot to put that up on the information page, but it is now :)
The loan will be for 20 turns at an interest of 20%, so a total of $120,000. Your payment would be $6,000 per turn - given your expected profit, I think you can manage that, so your loan is approved if you would like it!
Yep. Let's do that. I won't be able to pull this one up onto the beach, will I? ;D
Great! The Bank of Dunya is happy to help investors who are helping the economy of the Dunya grow :)
How much would building a store on my land cost? Both of my properties actually.
I wish to build 2 stores, 1 would be my own and I would live on the second floor, the other I would rent for someone. Would this be possible?
There certainly is a demand for showrooms, so find a renter will be no problem. The current rent prices for a plot is $5,000 per turn.
However, according to Dunyan Law, a commercial property cannot serve as a residence, so that won't be possible :(
Is the land that I have rented zoned commercially?
You can decide whatever you want to zone it - but it cant be more than one. So if its a residential project you got going on, then it can only be used for residential purposes. I guess later in the game when higher buildings start getting developed, we can talk about mixed use lots (which seems to be popular nowadays), but for now, lets just stick with the one zone policy :)
Buying max stuff &Thk/(
Well at the moment, I would like to zone my larger lot into maybe residential and possibly rent out the land to a developer? (if I can do that.) and I would like to zone my smaller lot into commercial and possibly build a restaurant, that means I would have to collaborate with farmers.
You CAN rent out the land on a long lease to a developer - but for it to be profitable for the developer, it will have to be a LONG lease.
What the developer builds on it returns to you after the lease is over.
However, given the amount of land available and given the town really isnt that big, I doubt that it would realistically interest any developer as of now - although Im sure if it was still undeveloped in the future as the town grows, it definitely will!
A restaurant would be a great idea! Its expenses work a bit differently - you get a 50% markup on the Life Neccessities you buy. Your expenses will be the usual ($300 for utilities per plot per turn, employee for $2,100, and general expenses at $600 per plot per turn.) If you dont sell what you buy in a turn, however, the rest gets thrown out. So if you buy $1,000 of each Life Neccessity, but end up selling only $2,500 of them, the other $500 gets thrown out and is added as expense. However, given that the population has an intake that exceeds whats supplied in the market thus far according to my formula, you dont have to worry about that...yet :)
Would it be possible to rent out my land to NPCs? None of the buildings would be permanent, just temporary stands, etc.
rjet13, I would given that the land is bordered only by one road, it would have to be leased to a single developer. The thing with leased land, as in real life, it has to be worth the developer's investment, and generally the only way to guarantee that is to give it out on a long lease.
Your land, being 2500 sq. meters, would obviously be out of budget for smaller companies. At this point, it could either be developed as a small gated community or a larger showroom. A small gated community would be an investment of between $500,000 to $600,000 - out of budget from the only construction company in Dunya, Salford Construction. As for a larger showroom, that would be an investment of $1,250,000 - again, no NPC is currently rich enough to put in such an investment.
How much would it cost to build a simple 1 story store on my land? (The plot on EDward-E St.)
That's a question I'm saving for a decision next turn. Also, what's going on with my schooling? I believe I've advanced a few turns? :)
This turn, I'm just buying max amount of product.
Hey marsh!
A simple 1x1 store will cost you $50,000.
Turn Eleven, your schooling wouldve covered 6 out of the 8 required turns, so the Turn Fourteen, your Education Level will be 1!
Hey Nedalezz,
I found the name of the street I wanted to open up my store. Posted it with picture in topic "Updates (Turn Ten)". t-intersection: cross str and madrassa str. I hope everything is fine. Just out of curiosity, when are you gonna finish Turn Eleven. Your work is so impressive that I check every hour hopping for new things.
Is the law, you're not able to have multiple zoning on the same property, or is it the same building. So I guess I'm saying, would it be possible to own a 1x1 store, but keep my house and/or shack on the 1x1 behind it. (Me owning the property means I can actually get to the back.)
nemanjanv7: I am working on Turn 11, if it doesnt happen tonight, definitely by tomorrow :)
marsh: Thats fine - we can get your store up and keep your shack at the back :)
Okay. So rather than buying the max product this turn, I'm going to build a 1x1 store, and take a loan out to pay for the place.
If possible I would like this (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=2407) as my store. I don't know if it may be too large for the price of a small store though, let me know.
Done!
The basic design would be the one like Garvei's Electronics - something like that would cost about $200,000!
Okay then. :P
Just to be different from his, maybe this (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=2527)?
I'd like the white one, however I'm not sure if it's 1x1. It looks it from that pic. If it's to much then again, I'll just go with whatever you want. ::)
Thats a 2x1 :) I actually have those already. Those would go for $100,000 - 200 sq. meters, inventory max of $100,000.
Hey I'm back again.
So lets settle thing first.
Nedalezz you say that I earned $14000 - (700+1200+600+300+300+2400+600+300) = 7600.
So I can spend $7600. am I right?
If I am. I want to spend it all on my buying in products.
Hey peter007! Welcome back! I stopped update the Player Factbook - instead, Im giving links to the updated ledger every turn. You can check it at the end of each update post, or at the bottom of the Player Factbook thread :)
Hi, nice update ;)
Unfortunately I couldn't see my new store on those pictures &mmm
Here are my decisions for TURN 12: I would like to max out buying products again (although I would like to know the average profit that I gain per every invested dollar in those goods. I know its not fixed because you calculate it your own way but I don't want to invest if I will keep losing cash)
Adella wishes to invest $18.480 in my store (buying up products). What is the penalty for her not being a trader? I hope she can invest since we are a family after all...
Looks like I'll just continue paying of my loan and "stay in school". How far along on my schooling am I, anyways?
rjet13: Martin is will complete his 6th of 8 turns during Turn 11 - Turn 14 will be his first with an Education Level of 1 (and his salary doubles :) )
nemajanv7: Your first turn was Turn 11 - the store takes a turn to complete construction (6 months). So we started constructing it during Turn 11 and it will be ready Turn 12. Your desicions from before were made as if they were going to be in Turn 11 - As for your wife investing in your store, deals between players is totally up to one another :) Ill put it as a loan from your wife. There wont be any penalty since you can use the money to do whatever you wish with it, in this case, buying up goods. As for your Turn 12 decisions, lets wait for Turn 12! :)
Check the updated Information Sheet for more information on your characters! Can everyone get to it alright?
I would like to know how much land costs, and where I could buy it. I'm looking for a place near the outskirts of town, close to the water. Any information would be helpful, as I'm hoping to make a good investment.
Ok, I'll give cash to nemanya's store :P.
No interest :)
$18.840
Cyclone1001: Generally, anywhere around the CBD and and its surroundings, the land can range from $1,200 a plot to $1,500 a plot. There isnt any land available in the CBD itself anymore, except private land, and private owners set their own prices.
There is land available on Main Street to the south of town and to the north of town - those go for $1,000 a plot. The south of Rawa'a has turned in a residential neighborhood, while the north is relatively undeveloped still.
adelanv7: Noted! But as I said on the discussion board, Turn 11 was the first turn were imports exceeded selling. I have my own formula to work out how much each store will sell, and I guess its pretty accurate to real life :)
How large is a plot of land? I'm guessing 1x1, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyways, I'd like 4 plots of land to the north of Rawa'a. Along Main Street would be best.
Cyclone1001, if you look at the overview shot (the last picture) of the last update, you'll see to the north of the picture a 2x2 land on Main Street, 2 houses down from the dirt road that is Hope Lane. It is in between a house under construction, and the houses just after Hope Lane. 27 Main Street - congratulations!
Quoteadelanv7: Noted! But as I said on the discussion board, Turn 11 was the first turn were imports exceeded selling. I have my own formula to work out how much each store will sell, and I guess its pretty accurate to real life :)
Well we are not buying full. just my inventory of 14.165 and here part of 18.480. that is 33.645/50.000. I hope I would make profit. otherwise it would appear that it's much more profitable to own a stall for 1.000 &mmm .
The $50,000 is the max. of inventory you can fit in your showroom :)
What Im talking about is selling. I have a formula Ive devised that basically calculates retail sales for the town, taking into account several factors. In previous turns, the imports (supply) was exceeded by the demand, but Turn 11 represented the first time that the opposite was true.
What happens now is the factors go into play. For example, if you order $50,000 worth of goods, you might end up selling $30,000. So you'll have $20,000 worth of inventory carried over to the next turn.
The following turn, instead of ordering $30,000, you could go for $10,000 and try to sell $30,000 worth of inventory as you did the previous turn. Keep in mind, change is constant! Areas could boom and areas could also go bust - commercial land value plays a part, along with several other factors Ive listed before.
Im trying to keep this as realistic as possible! :)
As for stalls, they can only be used to sell Life Neccessity products, which have a mark up of 25% as opposed to 40% of Luxury products :)
I think I'll put my land up for sale, for 19,200. At this point, Terrell thinks he made the wrong descision about the farm; the payoff isn't proportional to the work, he says. If you want, he is willing to sell you the entire company (Terrell Farms&Trading CO) for 20,000. That includes the stand and the fields.
If no RL character takes the deal, the government will gladly pay the said amount to buy back the land before next turn :)
Nice offer. I would like to buy Terrell property for $20.000. That means Adella will not buy items for my store (18.000), but invest in his land. As for the rest. I will give him $4.000 the first turn I have available money. That would be in turn 12 or 13. Deal?
A pleasure doing business with you, nemanjanv7!
Just one thing of note:
The stand is on its own 1x1 land away from the 4x4 land of the fields. Is that part of the deal or no?
I assume that because I said the 20000 would cover the land AND the stand, his offer for 20000 meant that. I mean, what am I gonna do with a stand and nothing to sell :D
"he is willing to sell you the entire company (Terrell Farms&Trading CO) for 20,000."
Yup, everything is in the deal, I even gave him 2k more because I didn't have all the money atm. Of course Adella is buying this land and it will be under her name. I hope this investment will pay off in near future.
Just to be sure, here is the picture of the property I am buying. And can someone tell me how to link pictures to text, so I don't take so many space on forums in future?
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Thanks Cyclone ;)
Ok Ned, I need to ask you some questions now. I've just looked into my finances.
Since Adella is acquiring a 4x4 farm and I (Nemanya) a stall from Nick, I was wondering what will be the expenses from these businesses. I will not get penalty for that stall, right (trader)? And how is farm and that stall linked? Do I just transfer vegetables (or fruit, not sure what I just bought ;P) from farm to stall and then sell them? And how much money will I get in return (In normal conditions)
I need to know it in order to make my Break even analysis. Before those farms I needed to buy $21.050 worth of goods just to stay in black (that is without bonuses and demand penalties)
Right, as a trader, your markup on Life Neccessities is 25% and on Luxury its 40%.
Given that demand for Live Neccessities (Fruits/Vegatables, Meat/Fish, and Liquids) far exceed the local supply for it, what is produced by the farm goes directly into the market at a 20% margin for Adella. Adella, because her main profession is not a farmer, will have the following expenses: $2,200 caretaker, and $640 maintenance ($40 per plot.) Thats $2,840 a turn - her normal batch will produce $3,200 a turn without adding the potential bonuses, and that will be sold on a 20% margin. In any case, Adella turns a profit.
As for Nemanya, he now has a showroom and a stall. The Market Stall has no additional expenses. The showroom will have $600 general expenses ($600 per each 100 sq. meters) and $300 utilities ($300 per each sq. meters.) One of them will need an employee since Nemanya can only be one place at once, so thats another $2,200. Total, your businesses will run you $3,100 a month.
Now, the Market Stall can ONLY sell Life Neccessities, so you can only import/buy locally one of the 3 Life Neccessity products. Luxury Products can ONLY be sold in Showrooms, so your optics business would operate out of your showroom. $15,000 worth of optics will deliver $21,000 if all sold ($6,000 on 40% markup) profit, and the Life Neccessities deliver a 25% markup. Basically, it looks like you're going to be operating a profitable business :)
Nice, thanks for the awesome feedback.
Our decisions for the next turn:
-I will take another loan for $40.000 since I own more assets now
-$30.000 goes to the new Stall which I will call "Corner st, Liquids". I am maxing it out since you said that demand is very high for necessities (I suppose it means liquids, too)
-$10.850 goes to my "Woynitsch Optics", so I will have exactly $25.000 worth of goods in that store.
-$18.000 goes to Nick as the down payment. He'll receive the other $4.000 in Turn 13. BUT This transaction takes action during TURN 11, so I take profits in Turn 12
-All in all I should earn:
Adella's salary: $1.800
Farm: 3.840-2.840=$1.000
Stall: 30.000*1.25 - 30.000{*1.05 (duty tax)} - 2.200 (worker) =$5300
Showroom: 14.174*1.4(already in inventory) + 10.850*1.4 - 10.850*1.05(Duty tax) - 900(FC) =$22.741(Normal scenario)
Expenses:1.800(Life necessities, Both) + 600 (Utilities, both) + 4.800(rate for both loans) + 2.000(Education, both) + 90(Adela's Tax)
Total:$30.841 - $9.290 = $21.551
*No duty tax for Necessities, got it!
Just a couple of things :)
1) There is no Duty Tax on Life Neccessities imports!
2) The showroom sales is assuming that your products get sold! Thats unclear as of yet - the formula will work that one out :)
3) The farm has a chance to produce 10-30% bonus which will be done this turn.
1) sorry you have mentioned that there were no taxes for LN but I forgot :( . Of course Adella will give me market stall (or sell it for the remaining 4k owed to Nick the other turn)
2) I know they might not get sold (that's why I said Normal scenario - my Optimistic would've been better said). Is there a penalty for unsold items? I hope it will sell enough for me to max out NP again ???
3) I could use a bonus. I took a lot of loans &mmm ($100.000 in total)
I hope everything else is fine.
Just buy maximum amount of goods
¿I think?
Hi, Ned fantastic update!
Love the new religion buildings. And my optics sits just across the church ;) . Nice
Still, you have forgotten to add another $10.850 (or as much as I had at that time) to Eyeware buyout. they were neither sold nor are they in my inventory. I am sure I had money as I borrowed another 40k, right? So my money is just sitting there and being wasted y inflation and life expenses. Can you please fix it? I quoted the decision from last turn ;) .
Also I couldn't find profits from Adella's new farm? Neither Nick Teller nor Adella's gained any income from the farm. What happened to the crops this turn?
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Quote from: nemanjanv7 on August 16, 2011, 03:41:26 PMNice, thanks for the awesome feedback.Our decisions for the next turn:-I will take another loan for $40.000 since I own more assets now-$30.000 goes to the new Stall which I will call "Corner st, Liquors". I am maxing it out since you said that demand is very high for necessities (I suppose it means liquids, too)-$10.850 goes to my "Woynitsch Optics", so I will have exactly $25.000 worth of goods in that store.
You had bought stock for Optics last turn ($14175), which were sold this turn. I didnt add the new inventory because I figured you might want to change your mind as you have more money than you estimated lying around :) Whatever you order this turn, will be relfected in sales next turn!
As for the Farm, this is the first turn under Adella's ownership, so she harvests this turn, and her sales will be reflected next turn.
Hello, I'm asking about buying more property on North Main Street. Are there any plots for sale?
Hmh, You didn't understand what I meant. :( Please check the factbook as I am trying to explain in more details :)
Turn 10: Nick Terell purchased the land, and he in that very turn stored $3.200 to his inventory
Turn 11: He sold his stock for $3.840(20% more, as should be), BUT he did NOT store any new fruit, which is fine because he sold it to Adella. Then I looked in Adella's inventory and didn't find anything in inventory. So it means no fruit grew in Turn 11. Vanished value? :o
Turn 12: Adella stores $3.200 and I guess is waiting for turn 13 to sell it
BUT If fruit grows only once a year (once in to turns) then expenses will always be bigger then income. Because:
Taken from "Files and Information thread". Any character with a non-Farmer main profession will pay $40 a plot maintenance per turn, and will require to employ a caretaker for every 2,500 sq. meters of farmland.
2 turn per employee + 2 turns for maint. = 2*2.200 + 2*640 = $5.680 EXPENSES; $3.200 in 2 turn with markup is only 3.840.
But you also said: Each turn, a farmer will sell his produce to the local market at a markup for 20% from its value. Which means that fruit grows in both turns, hence fruit in Turn 11 got eaten by locusts? Nah, you would've made nice pictures of that unhappy event
So can you please check it again, because I think Adella is supposed to have those +$3.840 and $3.200 stored for the next turn.
I am sorry for being so boring on this project, I guess I'm really starting to bother you now, ain't I? But I Do think all the best of your work so far. &cry2
So anyways If Adella gets the money from fruit she would like to buy a piece of 2x2 land with me (50:50) In either of this to areas.
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If property near beach is available I would like 2x2. If not I will be satisfied with the land in between those to houses. I assume land is either 1.000/plot or 1.200/plot (4.000 or 4.800, right?) :)
You're Right! Adella shouldve grown the fruit last turn, and wouldve benefited from them this turn :) It will be rectified :)
I want people to be as passionate about this project as I am! Its great,really :)
All land alongside any paved or dirt road is available for sale :)
Anything north of Second Street is $1,000 a plot.
In which case, I would like to buy the 3x2 area along Main Street (the one between the houses). Its the open area just north of where nemanjanv7 highlighted.
The area (peninsula) east of Main Street is currently government land (they have plans for it ;) ), but the two other lands have been bought! Congrats Adella and Jackson!
Woohoo, we're back in business :)
Adella and I will be equal shareholders of the newly acquired land. Just to be clear one more time: This will cost 2.000 Nemanya and 2.000 Adella and it is 2x2 plot or 400sqm.
As for inputs: Nemanya will buy eyewear for $12.400 and Adella will loan him $2.640(0% interest :P ) plus any bonus that she got from fruit.
This turn I shall buy max Life necessity products. If possible, for you think the 2 undeveloped tiles of my land could have some grass to help beautify the area? :)
Areameder: $18,722 - Your 100 sq. meter store is ready! Whats the plan for it? And dont forget about your stall :) (And I'll get you some grass on the land!)
David Darnell: $11,920 - You sold all of your stock last month, but you're still paying off your loan, which has added to your cost. Whats the plan? If you continue like this, you're losing a little bit of money every turn :(
Dave Davis: $75,395 - The most successful character in the game currently. Your business model has reaped immediate benefits, despite having to cover a $6,000 loan, amongst other high expenses.
Henk Garvei: $19,536 - With 2 businesses in operation, let me know how you want to distribute your orders!
Tyrone Harvey: $19,794 - Your farm has been unspectacular but steady :) Your income grows a little every turn. Time for an expansion perhaps?
Jackson Huxley: $13,970 - Your investment in land should certainly prove to be a wise one. Another wise investment, as a government employee, is to go to school! It costs $1,000 per turn, and after 8 turns when you graduated from the Rawa'a Primary School, your salary doubles!
Jordan Jordan: $22,790 - Go to school! I would encourage you to send your character to school, because his salary will double once he is done! Slow and steady growth of savings here.
Addison Martin: $2,824 - You are almost done with school! Just two more turns for the salary to double!
Alex Meade: $7,620 - Two more turns till the increase in salary!
Nick Terrell: $28,190 - After your character decided Trading and Farming was not the direction he wanted to go in, he's got quite a little bit of money to invest. Also, his last turn in Primary School is next turn, so the salary doubles soon :)
Adella Woynitsch: $1,820 - Good investments in land :) Now just have to finish up school to get that salary to double!
Nemanya Woynitsch: $2,410 - Got all your products ordered! Good choice with the Liquids!
Quote from: nedalezz on August 20, 2011, 02:56:42 AM
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Jackson Huxley: $13,970 - Your investment in land should certainly prove to be a wise one. Another wise investment, as a government employee, is to go to school! It costs $1,000 per turn, and after 8 turns when you graduated from the Rawa'a Primary School, your salary doubles!
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I think I will go to school then, sign me up!
Can I rent out that 1x2 parcel of land to others wanting stalls? I think maybe 4, possibly 5, could fit on it.
Its one stall per 1x1 plot :(
If its on the market, there is enough demand for Life Neccessities to warrant an NPC renting it out.
Mmm, land values are really skyrocketing :D
Adella is really thrilled just because she knows she will be able to sell her farm for a lot of cash in a few years. I hope no crisis are gonna strike Dunya any time soon. That would really suck...
Also before land value grows even more Adella wishes to buy 1x1 plot behind WOYNITSCH OPTICS and 1x1 plot behind "Corner Street Liquids"
!!! Please change the name - Teller co !!!
How much would that cost us? Not sure about land value price zones &mmm
As for the imports, I am willing to take risk this turn and buy $30.000 of Luxury products (according to the factsheet everything that has been ordered in past few years has been sold, too. I hope bad luck won't follow me in turn 14. It's only 30k/50k anyways). The remaining $15.000 will be spent for liquids as according to the factsheet nobody else is importing liquids (I should've gotten a huge bonus according to the laws of supply VS demand :P ).
Great update Ned (if I may call you that) ;)
Michael Areameder: $16,735 – If you rent out your land to Adam Baker, you will receive an extra $500 per turn. Your store on Ed. Ezamsi St. is complete – right now, it's a default Grocery Store, and you are still operating your Market Stall.
Adam Baker: $16,900 – Assuming Areameder lets you rent out the land, you will have a location to set up your stall. You also have $16,900 (after calculating expenses and buying the Market Stall) to buy Life Necessity products with.
David Darnell: $10,315 – Slowly losing money! The loan ($2,400) is hindering your profits, and as it stands, you are running a losing business. Perhaps taking out another loan to increase the amount of Comics and Cards you can buy might help, considering you are selling your full inventory every turn.
Dave Davis: $102,871 – The richest man in Rawa'a! Your commercial fishing boat is turning in the profits as the market needs to eat! Let me know if you plan on spending that money on any other investments.
Henk Garvei: $19,894 – Profits every turn thus far! Tell me how you would like to split your investments in products between your Electronics store and the Life Necessities for your Stall.
Vic Harris: $17,900 – As a fisherman, you need boats! I messaged you about the types of boats and their specifications, let me know what you decide!
Tyrone Harvey: $21,041 – Your farm is producing as it should be. Perhaps you should look into expansion as there are quite a number of cheap lands inland that the government is willing to sell cheaply to turn into farmland.
Jason Huxley: $12,320 – Let me know if you'd like to invest in anything.
Jordan Jordan: $24,140 – Invest in your education! It will pay dividends.
Addison Martin: $2,154 – Your salary will double starting next turn!
Alex Meade: $7,430 – Your salary doubles starting next turn!
Nick Terrell: $28,540 – Your salary doubles starting next turn!
Adella Woynitsch: $3,670 – Let me know if you'd like to invest in anything!
Nemanya Woynitsch: $45,764 – Already the 2nd richest man in Rawa'a (other than the NPCS!) Noted about your acquisitions!
As more characters get involved (we have 2 this turn!), I really have to start putting aside the extra work and focus on the mandatory ones to keep this project going! So as a personal request, starting next turn, please check the information sheet and see how much money you have and what you'd like to invest in, as I won't be doing these types of overviews again I will, ofcourse, double check everything, but it would help me a bunch!
OK, I'll buy maximum LN products to sell this turn.
Thanks!
I'll be using the store as my own from now on. The -Areameder Market. :) And for what I can, max amount of Life necessity products. (I may go into more detail later. :P)
The 2 1x1 lots I have on main street, I would like to rent out to whomever. To build market stalls, or they can invest in a building if they want a store on it. They would build the store, and when (if) it comes for me to sell the land, they'll either get a cut of the price for building the building, or I'll offer to sell them it for just the price of the land (again, at a later date when I decide to sell)
This can be continued in the business section I'm assuming. So after I get your word on it I'll post it there.
*edit- Also, update on my education?
Awesome! For the land, Adam Baker is interested in leasing the land. The price is $500 per turn per market prices. Its on a turn to turn basis currently, although you guys can work out different conditions if you so wish :)
Starting Turn 14, Michael Areameder would have graduated Primary School, meaning 3% extra on all markup!
okay. He can rent it out for as many turns as he wants. :) (renting is simpler than leasing. So just stop renting whenever you feel like it.)
He Naldezz, unfortunatley I'll be kinda scarce until my new computer comes. Untill then I have to use my mom's laptop, so no promises. Just keep making default decisions for the time being, and I'll be back in less than a week. I'd like to buy a 2x1 house in "Tree Lane", that's a $100,000 loan, 13 year payoff? Be back as soon as I can.
Well, you should have a look at the houses the government has put up for sale on Main Street! If you insist on Treelane, I'll scour the neighborhood and see which houses are for sale :)
OUR decisions for this turn:
-Adella loans Nemanya $3.376 until the next turn (0% interest)
-Nemanya buys Necessities for $9.328 (exactly)
-Nemanya buys Luxuries for $37.121 (exactly)
-Adella puts 10 plots of land for sale - $25.000 (Jalmi lane)
-Nemanya is taking term deposits, so your money can work for you ;).
If tree lane can't happen, to the west would be ok too :)
Would it be possible for me to repay my entire loan that I used for my land? Also, since my education level has increased, can I get a more significant job in the port, like someone who would get promoted from an employee to a manager?
What are all the possible goods that can be imported? I was trying to look through the thread to find it but I got a bit confused.
rjet13: Yes, you can repay your entire loan off. The interest you have paid already will be the only interest you would have to pay. So if you took out a loan of $100k, and your interest is $20k, that would make your loan $6k per turn - $5k of which is solid, $1k against interest) for 20 turns.Lets say you paid for 10 turns (50k solid payment, 10k in interest), that means you are left with $50k of solid payment. You can pay that amount and not have to worry about the interest. As for the job, sure, what would you like to be?
marsh: The goods that can be imported currently are split into 2 groups: Life Necessities and Luxury. The Life Necessities entail Fruits/Vegetables, Meats/Fish, and Liquids, while the Luxury Products are pretty much everything else. If it exists in RL, you can import it :) I havent made a list per say because its completely open ended.
Start getting those decisions for Turn 14 in! The update is almost ready, so tell me what you plan on doing with your savings! Visit the Dunya Info Sheet found at the end of the last update (or the last post in the Player Factbook) to get an idea of what you have lying around.
You already have my decisions ;)
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=13493.msg392883#msg392883 (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=13493.msg392883#msg392883)
And what does the king say? Will he buy that land from Adella for $25.000 (10 plots or 1000 sqm)? That's the exact amount of money that I would invest in new land. In an adjacent 2.500 sqm of farms
Okay, well for my new store I'll import $1,000 in luxury product, and then the rest for LN
Also, I would like my land on main St. to be cleared to easily build future things. (In other words, build a 1x1 dirt tile) I think more people should do this, to at least make the lots fit into downtown more and not look so out of place.
Can't remember how much money I had left on my loan, but I took out a 10K loan.
rjet13:
Addison Martin:
T.amount: $10,000.00
Interest: $2,000.00
Amount with interest: $12,000.00
Payment per turn: $480.00
Turns left: 19
Started / Ending: 7 ; 31
Paid: $3,360.00
You can see it here! (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgrTVIPv5zojdDFEbWRLUEwwMTJvSU9GZlJMSVhiSVE&hl=en_US#gid=17)
;)
marsh: A store can only hold either A) Life Necessities or B)Type of Luxury Product.
In terms of Luxury Products, I'll give you an example: Garvei imports Electronics, Woynitsch imports Eyewear (which would fall under fashion), Darnell imports Comics and Cards (under Books/Music)...basically you can import whatever you want! Furniture, Electronics, Pharmacudicals, Decoration, Tiles, Hardware, Sports Equipment, basically anything you are interested in!
I guess I will do what you suggest and take out a loan so I can import better comics and books.
A store can't have both? the luxury products are just a small portion. The luxury products in my store are just a few nik-nacs and other things.
NASCAR_Guy: I suggest you start off with $30,000 loan - in the current retail climate in Rawa'a, you should be able to sell your entire inventory each turn. $30,000 will net you $12,000 profit, easily covering your expenses and earning you some profit!
marsh: Not a small one, no. For larger showrooms (2,000 sq. meters and above), both can be sold at one location, but for anything less than that, it has to be specific lines :(
I'll stick with default decisions the next few turns - buy max LN products and sell them at my stall.
Thanks
"Baker's Goods - good in everything good!"
How much does it cost to enroll in high school? I think I might sign Addison up for that if I can afford it.
EDIT: Saw the cost in the Discussion thread, I'll sign up for that.
Our decisions for turn 15:
- Adella loans Nemanya $6.687
- Nemanya buys Necessities for $4,462.69 (exactly)
- Nemanya buys Luxuries for $50,000.00 (Full load finally :satisfied: )
-The Woynitsch family is looking for a place to live. Who is renting homes and how much? The government houses are still too expensive to rent for us.
To NICK TERRELL (Exla357)
- Will you loan me $30.000 for 10 turns and 20% interest. Means I will give you back $36.000 ($3.600 per turn)
To Dave Davis (Amphibious Rodent)
- The offer still stands. Check: http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=13590.msg392622#msg392622 (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=13590.msg392622#msg392622)
To Nedalezz (actually to NPC - Terrence Salford)
-Can I strike a similar deal with NPC (the second deal with Dave Davis (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=13590.msg392622#msg392622))
-And can NPC act as "Loan sharks"? ::)
P.S. Factbook version with comments and some corrections sent to your mail :thumbsup:
Hey Everyone! I need your decisions for Turn 15 - the update will come tomorrow some time :)
nemanjanv7: Id prefer to let the Bank of Dunya do all the loaning :) Although Im sure the government will have to allow other banks to open up at some point! Maybe player controlled? ;)
Well, one day I'll own one i Dunya that's for sure. But how are you gonna handle this deal then? I have to give him back the money. It's not a bankloan anyway, since I am not giving him interest to the amount. I need him to pay the whole sum at first. SHOWROOM + full INVENTORY of goods. I will only give the land plot that I explained. And I will give him back half in ten turns, so we can be equal shareholders
In terms of deals between RL characters, then anything can happen. If Davis chooses to loan Nemanya some money, thats fine. I was only pointing out that in terms of NPCs, I would prefer only the Bank of Dunya to do loaning :)
- Oh, BTW, you didn't tell me where I can rent a house and how much it would cost me. We don't need anything expensive for now.
- Add a shopmanager to WOYNITSCH OPTICS as I will be working in the new shared BUSINESS!Quoted decisions, please check:Quote- Adella loans Nemanya $6.687
- Nemanya buys Necessities for $4,462.69 [/b](exactly)
- Nemanya buys Luxuries for $50,000.00 [/b](Full load finally )
-The Woynitsch family is looking for a place to live. Who is renting homes and how much? The government houses are still too expensive to rent for us.
[/size]-Establish a new business with 50/50 partnership (Woynitsch / Davis)
[/size]-10-turn loan of $51.750 starting from the turn we make our first sale! Loan from Dave Davis
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Would it be possible for me to get a loan and build apartments on my 3x2 lot? If so, let me know.
Nothing special this turn, by the way, for the new position that I forgot to respond to, can I become a customs agent/supervisor (possibly of the rumored airport, if/when it is built)?
cyclone1001: An apartment building on a 3x2 lot (600 sq. meters) would cost the following:
$300,000 Foundation ($50,000 per plot)
$120,000 per Floor ($20,000 per plot)
Given these numbers, the Bank of Dunya does not think it would be feasible at this point to be able to give you a loan to cover that because they are not confident about how quick these apartments can be rented/sold.
rjet13: So I guess the secret is out, eh :) Sure, when the airport is done, we can shift you over!
I'm not sure how much money Nemanya has. Nut here is what is to be done by priorities:
-Adella did give a 1 turn 0%interest loan to Nemanya (all her money)
1st priority: WD Agro Ltd. $25.000 (the other $25.000 comes from Davis). I'm sure you made this decision without us, anyway
2nd priority: Woynitsch optics: FULL ($50.000)
3rd priority: Corner street Liquids: All that's left
Hey nemanjanv7!
Nemanja has $63,703.72 in personal savings.
WD Agro Ltd. was left with $68,329.35 after expenses and tax, of which $52,500 was recommitted to buying products ($50,000 + $2,500 Import Tax), which also was Cost of Goods Sold. Each partner got $7,915. I have adjusted the BUSINESS sheet to show profits, as well.
Woynitsch Optics was left with $62,215 after expenses and tax, of which b]$52,500[/b] was recommitted to buying products ($50,000 + $2,500 Import Tax), so the ending balance of extra cash was $9715.5, which went to Nemanja's personal savings.
Woynitsch Trading Co. sold $5,578.26, and after expenses and tax, was left with $2,779.44. My question here is do you want to use the money made to order liquids in that amount, or would you like to reinvest in this company by raising its working capital?
Well it wouldn't be profitable to invest only $2,779.44.
1. So, I'm gonna reinvest $2,779.44.
2. Invest all that I have (Adella's FULL loan + whatever is left in my current account)
*Bare in mind that I have another loan from Davis (That's additional 5.175/turn, right?)
***BTW, I need to talk to you about new layout of my Business and Personal sheet. Excel is a bit limited, so I had to make some separate tables (General info of business, Total markup table, Turn decisions, Income statement, Net income and Balance sheet). PM when you are on MSN***
Alright guys, we need those decisions for Turn 16 - the update should be coming out tomorrow :)
I'm willing to sell 3 First Street to a commercial developer.
Thats prime property right there :) Currently worth $12,000 according to the official values, but probably worth more.
Very nice update ;)
Ok here are the decisions for this turn:
ADELLA:
1. I noticed she has $26.873, so guess what? She is investing in another 2.500 sq meters of land adjacent to the current ones (between)! That'll be $25.000
2. The remaining $1.873 is to be loaned to Nemanya
NEMANYA:
1. Now I see that all my businesses are working under FULL capacity, RIGHT? So I am going to open another MARKET STALL next to "WD Agro Ltd.", but on Edward Ezamsi street. The Name: "Woynitsch Fruit Market" and it will sell fruit STRICTLY from ADELLA's FARMS. I also require a small margin boost as I am not importing, but selling from a local farm. If you disagree I will explain myself in discussion topic. In this market I will new market I will invest all I have (including 1-turn loan of $1873 from Adella). That is Total of $19.045 - $1.000 (stall) = $18.045 for goods from Adella's farms. NO DUTY TAX and I want that small Margin BOOST :)
The WOYNITSCH FAMILY:
From next turn I want to introduce a new member of The Woynitsch Family to Dunya! A baby boy named STEFAN.
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I hope I got all the numbers well.
I'd be very interested in taking a loan to buy 3 First Street and moving my stall there... eventually hoping to open a shop.
Ah, I see it all sold. Very well, I'd like to take a loan to buy enough of the Grover land for sale that I can have enough space to build a shop (maybe 4x4?) and a small home (1x2?). If that works I'll move my stall and shack over there :)
Adam Baker
"Baker's Goods - good in everything good!"
Baker, a small suggestion:
- If I were you I would take a loan of $100.000. Yes, you would have to pay 120.000 back, BUT:
- You can buy a shop - SHOWROOM and import almost the full inventory of goods.
*** 100.000 loan - up to 2.000 {for 1x1 land if you don't already have} - 50.000 for SHOWCASE = $48.000. So you can buy 45.715 imports + 2.285 duty tax. You will earn 67.200 next turn. You subtract Loan expense of $4.800, around 2.500 for worker and 900 for fixed expenses. Next turn your company starts with 59.000, reinvests 50.000 + 2.500 and your left with at least $6.500 per turn. But bare in mind that I added you another 5.000 of goods this turn ;)
- But that's just me...
I am finishing up the update now! Just a few points:
I will put Stefan under the care of Nemanya. Since there is two of you in the family, you can choose to have another child under Adela's care later. That way, the inheritance doesnt go all to Stefan :)
While I agree we need to come up with a formula for products purchased from the local market, this turn, I will not apply one. However, let us really crunch this one out and see what makes sense, because like you said, its needed :)
Great, can't wait.
Maybe suggestion for Local produce would be at least 5% (in RL it would be much more, but it would fit in this concept).
The thing here is that, we don't buy quantities of goods, but their worth. Which means that in that sum all transaction expenses are included (transport costs - and bare in mind that we live on a faraway island; money exchange, preservation of goods etc).
In my opinion those costs would be much more than 5%(maybe even 33-45%), but it wouldn't be playable with this concept. It would be too easy.
So around 5% for domestic products would be a fair bonus.
Nedal, don't forget to invest full amount of cash in all my businesses (I thing that you only invested 21.400 in WT - Edward ezamsi str. Please add additional 8.600)
I hope you considered the local production bonus. It's really required. At least 5-10% for the beginning.
As for Adella, what about that corporation idea. You haven't really commented on it. VIVAPANDA wanted to join in with his 20.000 plus he would be a CEO (Meaning I am willing to give him double or even tripple average salary + dividend, but farm no longer needs as many workers and yields double because he is a FARMER). Please say something on this and let him join. If you let him join the corp, then immidietly buy another parcel of land (another $25.000 = 5.000 Adella's and $20.000 Vivapanda's).
If he joins with 20.000, Adella owns 90% and Vivapanda 10% of WArgo Corp.
Adella will keep on issuing shares until she owns roughly 60%. So whoever wants to join, please step in. Doesn't matter which profession. There are a lot of Government workers that don't have anything to invest in, yet. So please join the corp.
P.S. I can't continue on my Factbook until you give me some feedback on it. I placed images that are readable...
Will do about the full investment :)
As for the corporation, I dont mind - its a player owned business, so you guys can work out the shares anyway you wish!
If vivapanda is going to be on site on the farmer, then yes, the farm will not need as many employees (as he is a farmer.) What I need to know is confirmation of how much vivapanda is willing to invest, and what will his salary be as CEO.
I'll pay off my current loan fully next turn. Also, are we able to buy land in the Dunyan frontier for future use/sale?
Not yet, as such land is inhospitable and barren. But with the development in the north of the recent airport and power plant, the road that will lead up to it will all be up for sale at $1,000 per plot!