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Title: VDK Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: vester on January 04, 2007, 05:36:44 PM
Here is my last bat project:  Christiansborg Palace Chapel / Christiansborg Slotskirke.

In 1794 the castle Christiansborg burned, as well as the church.

The building of the present church was started in 1813 using the foundations and the rest of the walls of the old castle church.
The church was consecrated on Whitsunday, 1826.

In 1992 on the carneval in Copenhagen, fireworks sat the roof on fire.
The church was reconserated in the 14th jan, 1997 after it was renovated.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg152.imageshack.us%2Fimg152%2F272%2Fchristiansborgslotskirkft0.jpg&hash=ce8837ba2d6a183d99af992d7ba067c01f41a0e7) (http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2370/christiansborgslotskirknm2.jpg)


(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg402.imageshack.us%2Fimg402%2F1402%2Fchristiansborgigs1thrz2.jpg&hash=ff9b4d6cc6e23a4776a850d955cb7f07bef61a0f) (http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5707/christiansborgigs1km6.jpg)

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(Click on the images for enlargement)
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: bat on January 05, 2007, 01:44:41 AM
Nice building, fantastic work!
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: jacqulina on January 05, 2007, 05:08:28 AM
excellent work i love the details my friend
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: jeronij on January 05, 2007, 06:07:25 AM
Hi VDK, after a loooong look to the model, may I suggest you some improvements ?¿

The model is quite close to the original. unfortunately, we see the originals from the floor, and the SC4 models from the air. What we never see in reality from a building (the roof), is the most we see in the game. Sometimes you have to add some additional and fictional details from your own  ;) . I have some ideas for you  ;D

The roof texture: The first think I'd suggest is to reduce the texture scale to 50% at least. Or reduce them a bit anyway  ;) . The tiles look too big imo.
The texture itself looks a little bit plain...not plastic, but not realistic. After some years, the blue color would become a more green colour due to the rain. I can suggest you to play a little bit with your textures after reading this tutorial (http://sc4devotion.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=35&topic=4.0). I would also make the texture a bit darker, and maybe add more contrast as well.
Some more details, like rails, water drain off, pipelines, maybe some statues as well, dont overload it, but some more fine details would enchance the whole look of the model.
...end of suggestions.

The building body is not that finished yet, and I can see that there comes a lot of work to complete it, so I'll keep an eye in this development  ;)
I hope you find my suggestions useful.
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: vester on January 06, 2007, 04:08:13 PM
Thanks J.

I really haven't come around to working around with the textures.
Still doing the modeling, but I will sure be reading that tutorial of yours when I get around to it.
Have just start playing around with MAX, so that comes first.


Here is a rendering of what I have done so far:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg139.imageshack.us%2Fimg139%2F453%2Fmaxrendering2jt4.jpg&hash=950302b060aa7c5b55d5839ba40e0a90cf15fb54)
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: TheTeaCat on January 07, 2007, 08:40:19 AM
Nice work your doing here vester. &apls
Watcjing his with interest!

:satisfied:
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: swi21 on January 07, 2007, 09:25:05 AM
I know you have the habit to work a lot with modeling first and texturing after, but there are some buildings you need to create by using the textures as structural elemnts, i mean, you can use a nicely frontaly taken photo (or photoshopped) in order to build each one of your walls separately, by creating simple shapes as rectangles, triangles, circles, arcs and the attach tools, vertex connector and boolean. after that you give them thickness and the textures can easely been applied, directly taken from your reference image (again photoshopped, or simply using the UVW Map tool -resize and move the gizmo-)

I used to make my models like you, but the buildings miss some realism at the end and it's too bad, because the models look good from closer.

By the way, this is exactly the method Porkissimo uses for his BATs. And I'm sure you can find good reference pictures, there are lots of sites providing good pictures (flickr, webshots...)

By the way, your model IS very good and you should keep it this way, but I suggest you use real textures for your details.. I have lots of good stuff you could use. Also if you need a pilaster model for your front door, I have a corinthian I made for the Zeppeion.

I may do a tutorial for this method, if there isn't any that allready exists.

EDIT: Now that I'm looking at the real building, I see you don't need pilasters for the front... But you know now I have one, just in case---
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: jeronij on January 07, 2007, 09:54:02 AM
off topic:   swi21,I would be ver interested in a nice tutorial explaining this technique. Even I do usually not create buildings, I am sure it would be very useful for me  ;D
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: vester on January 07, 2007, 03:57:29 PM
Well Jeronij, then we are two. I would like to see a tutorial on that.

Back on topic:

Here is an update:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg148.imageshack.us%2Fimg148%2F6563%2Fchristiansborgslotskirkyr3.jpg&hash=7c1494a6297392163f7754fca50acd4b256d8536)

Have been working on the staircase with textures. Have also made it a little bigger (deeper).
Has changed the texture on the roof and worked on the texture on the wall under the triangle roof around the front door.

Next I will start adding framing/ornament around the windows.
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: vester on January 08, 2007, 07:45:10 AM
Here is an update for you:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg147.imageshack.us%2Fimg147%2F7505%2Fchristiansborgslotskirkab4.jpg&hash=873da661627edea7d4a626133d4d2aa6d16fb2b4)

Notthing big, but it has taken it's time.

Looking forward to here what you have to say.
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: Alek King of SC4 on January 08, 2007, 08:06:30 AM
wow it is only like 300% better  &dance
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: sebes on January 08, 2007, 10:22:24 AM
Well done Vester_DK. I have no clue about creating buildings and am flabbergasted how you do this!  :satisfied:
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: jeronij on January 08, 2007, 11:11:01 AM
Hi VDK,

I just can say Chapeau  :thumbsup:

You made an excellent work with the roof textures indeed. And not only with the tiles if my eyes do not fake me  ;)

I´ll keep coming to see this development!!!
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: bat on January 09, 2007, 08:36:56 AM
The textures are looking more beautiful now!
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: vester on January 09, 2007, 05:42:15 PM
Here is an update:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg237.imageshack.us%2Fimg237%2F4319%2Fchristiansborgslotskirker3.jpg&hash=4308e997b7488c89f097f92c2925f450941bdc02)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg237.imageshack.us%2Fimg237%2F6481%2Fchristiansborgslotskirkzj1.jpg&hash=0894208c30be2c319f3250744ba8477b7a845b8b)

As you can see I have played around with the UVW Map on the dome. Looks much better.
Have made the windows, added a top to the dome and got the front door in place.
and talking about the roof, I have added some edge to it.

What is missing ?

Well the back is just plain wall. Here will be added some windows, a door and some steps.

and of course: night light

Jeronij: The roof texture is not mine, but one Praiodan's. Thanks goes to him for letting me use it.
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: bat on January 10, 2007, 04:25:08 AM
The windows are looking better now! Looking forward to the end version!
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: Citynut on January 10, 2007, 06:47:46 AM
This is making great improvements - Look forward to seeing the finished model  ;D
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: swi21 on January 10, 2007, 08:30:01 AM
Yes in deed! this bat is realy getting near perfection! If I could just give an advise, the front wall under the portico is a bit too light, as far as i can see on my screen. You should maybe harmonize it with the other wall (photoshop it!). Also, the details on the grnd floor windows are a bit blury, if you could just refine the edges, that could be a small improvement. Otherwise I can't see anything else... Maybe if you want to be perfectionist, some water evacuation pipes along the walls (there should be some on the real building)...

Splendid work! Bravo!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: jacqulina on January 10, 2007, 08:40:34 AM
wow thats beautifull work
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: Fledder200 on January 10, 2007, 08:42:33 AM
 :o
wow great job!!
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: vester on January 10, 2007, 09:21:02 AM
Thanks for your comments.

Nikos: No there aren't any downpipes (water evacuation pipes) on the real building. It's all hidden inside the walls (2 meters deep on the side and 1 meter on at the ends, so there should be space enough for them.).

The wall under the portico is lighter than they other walls to enhance the entrance I guess.

Have finish the back of the building.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg176.imageshack.us%2Fimg176%2F2215%2Fchristiansborgslotskirkmu7.jpg&hash=3f13bc527ab7abfe1ca01acbaa02a2293052c2dc) (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg176.imageshack.us%2Fimg176%2F4394%2Fchristiansborgslotskirkci2.jpg&hash=bba947ff1158ee91a2f69e5ef7b0ca7ea641fdc0)

What is left to do: Some lamps and the nigthlight and maybe some walls inside.
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: emilin on January 10, 2007, 02:30:29 PM
The roof texture is amazing! &apls
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: bat on January 11, 2007, 06:18:50 AM
the back of the building looks wonderful!
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: Alfred.Jones on January 11, 2007, 11:07:43 PM
Love the textures :thumbsup:
Title: Re: vester's bat studio
Post by: vester on January 12, 2007, 12:39:37 PM
Here is a small update:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg296.imageshack.us%2Fimg296%2F5215%2Fchrbslotskirkefmo6.jpg&hash=c33cba23c653ffd92f6debc30df5e7418408257c)

Have been playing around with the textures on the stairs and add the two lamps at the stairs.

Now working with the nightlights. I'm not very good at, but I will keep working on it until I get it like I want.
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: sebes on January 13, 2007, 12:59:07 AM
These steps in the portal are splendid &apls
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: jeronij on January 13, 2007, 05:46:33 AM
Hi VDK, great work with the stairs textures and the overall detailing.  &apls . They look much much better now.

About nightlights, I am not an expert, but I'd suggest you to simply place them where you would place them in reallity, and make some low resolution night renders to help you see how the things are going. Just wanting to help  ;D
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: bat on January 13, 2007, 10:44:51 AM
Great detailing with the stairs!
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: vester on January 13, 2007, 12:41:55 PM
Thanks for the comments

Jeroni: Not sure, but do not think there is something called a low resolution rendering in max.

Got a little help from swi21:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg401.imageshack.us%2Fimg401%2F8672%2Fcbskigs01eb0.jpg&hash=9d6286562cf6b48609ea3020a934d5daea3d9a0b)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg405.imageshack.us%2Fimg405%2F6739%2Fiviewcapturedate1301200zd9.jpg&hash=e16755ef4105177d6f5458b1ba1fba0ef3b22192)

This is just a testlot. Barby is going to do the lot for this church.
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: CabraBuitre on January 13, 2007, 04:50:23 PM
Very impressive Vester!
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: TheTeaCat on January 14, 2007, 01:23:25 AM
it just gets better and better &apls &apls &apls &apls
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: sebes on January 14, 2007, 02:35:02 AM
Great - you're right to put it in the spotlight! I like it. &apls
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: bat on January 14, 2007, 09:45:26 AM
Very nice lights!
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: pvarcoe on January 14, 2007, 01:53:21 PM
Beautiful textures,
very nice stuff.
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: dioangel on January 26, 2007, 11:30:51 AM
Beautiful work!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: Yoder7652 on January 26, 2007, 02:03:02 PM
I look forward to your releasing this  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: M4346 on January 26, 2007, 03:03:16 PM
Quote from: Yoder7652 on January 26, 2007, 02:03:02 PM
I look forward to your releasing this  :thumbsup:

Ditto!

It looks really amazing and I just LOVE churches! :P
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: Fred_Ginger on January 26, 2007, 03:21:56 PM
Oh boy!  &apls  This is a beaut and the Goddess is going to lot it?  Alright!
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: Alfred.Jones on January 28, 2007, 04:36:32 PM
 :o Its beautiful!!
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: jacqulina on January 31, 2007, 12:29:42 PM
beautifull work
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: vester on February 01, 2007, 06:58:03 AM
Hi Everybody. Thanks for all your comments.  ;D

I am back. My computer has been down for the last 2 weeks or so.

Barby has done the lot and now it needs some testing.

I might start on an even bigger church, but RL you know.... time must show.
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: snorrelli on February 01, 2007, 08:24:03 AM
What about the Christiansborg Castle shown in Debussyman's version of Shosaloza? ;)
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: vester on February 01, 2007, 08:26:53 AM
The church is mine, the castle is made by Debussyman. He says its only looks for a far.
If he will let me, I would have a look at his model and see what I can do about it.
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: vester on February 07, 2007, 05:07:59 AM
Here is some picture from Praiodan, where he has use the Christiansborg Castle Church (click on the images for enlargement):
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg520.imageshack.us%2Fimg520%2F847%2Fchristiansborgchurchfarbn4.jpg&hash=6204ae8904f04b580d7d9b2f6878f8e5bac755e7) (http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/489/christiansborgchurchfarmm5.jpg)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg520.imageshack.us%2Fimg520%2F2856%2Fchristiansborgchurchzoosy9.jpg&hash=cea36bd704fe5f3ab213ca001a88d6efa2e6bf83) (http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/4906/christiansborgchurchzoojs1.jpg)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg241.imageshack.us%2Fimg241%2F8146%2Fchristiansborgchurchzoont2.jpg&hash=5f0cddab4755d50f588e32dfbbe23a33c460a91c) (http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4155/christiansborgchurchzoohv2.jpg)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg241.imageshack.us%2Fimg241%2F75%2Fchristiansborgchurchzooxm0.jpg&hash=60fedb7a23bf7abdbeca76575d0eb5a5e3442961) (http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9937/christiansborgchurchzoonb6.jpg)

He have used in a way I never would have thought of.
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: bat on February 07, 2007, 05:38:04 AM
Looks wonderful! :thumbsup: &apls
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: snorrelli on February 08, 2007, 05:47:44 AM
This looks great - can't wait to download it. The textures and weathering are incredibly realistic. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: jacqulina on February 08, 2007, 06:46:50 AM
awesome work my friend
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: vester on February 08, 2007, 12:42:44 PM
Well Patrick go to the exchange then. Have just uploaded it to LEX. ;D
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: Schulmanator on February 08, 2007, 02:22:42 PM
Great work! This is a distinctive landmark sure to make any city sparkle!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: rooker1 on February 12, 2007, 11:39:37 AM
An amazing piece of work.  Great job.
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: swi21 on February 18, 2007, 06:51:33 AM
I allready told you how much i like this BAT of yours, what i didn't tell you is how much i LOVE it in the game! very detailed and the lot is excellent too! Many many thanks and i realy look forward to see your next beautyfull creation.
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: vester on February 18, 2007, 10:02:44 AM
Thanks for all you comments.

Swi, that coming from you, means a lot to me. ;D
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: nova vesfalo on February 20, 2007, 09:22:43 AM
It's an awesome job you've done ! It's already in one of my cities, just next to the Oslo Palace :)
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: Adriano57 on February 20, 2007, 09:41:23 AM
Wow great work Vester !
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: vester on February 20, 2007, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: nova vesfalo on February 20, 2007, 09:22:43 AM
It's an awesome job you've done ! It's already in one of my cities, just next to the Oslo Palace :)

That was my plan too. Could you post a picture or two of it next to Slottet ?
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: nova vesfalo on February 21, 2007, 05:38:03 AM
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg79.imageshack.us%2Fimg79%2F3084%2Fkastelosm8.jpg&hash=55587478b4be448bf960a621996e0bd04f60c399)
It was just what I was looking for my city, a neo classical palace and a church, to fit to the storyline an yours bats are so awesome ! I coulnd't hope more !

Thanks for made them !
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: vester on February 21, 2007, 07:39:41 AM
Great shot.  :thumbsup:

I probably do more building in neo classical style. That is becauce you can walk long in Copenhagen, the part of the city that was within the ramparts.

At the moment I am working on something different though.
Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: Zaphod on February 21, 2007, 12:13:26 PM
[q]At the moment I am working on something different though.[/q]

cool, what is it?

Title: Re: Vester: Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: Schulmanator on February 21, 2007, 01:28:42 PM
Ooooh!!

Neoclassical is my favorite!!! You have me intrigued!!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: VDK Christiansborg Palace Chapel
Post by: Archangel on February 28, 2007, 02:09:32 AM
Beautiful building....great to see the progress you made from the very first shots.... awesome work :)