RHW (RealHighway) - Development and Support

[sepen77]

Xylo's mod still works fine, I use it myself, though I've noticed that the vast majority of users have it installed wrong, evident by barrier, then light, then barrier along RHWs.

I know right? No one ever seems to pay attention to the readme's....

[ps2owner]

Dare I ask? DDERHW-4 bridges?

[Wiimeiser]

Yes, though I can't be bothered to find the screenshot. Also, what is Xylo's mod? And a RHW-5?

[GDO29Anagram]

Yes, though I can't be bothered to find the screenshot. Also, what is Xylo's mod? And a RHW-5?

Xylo's mod? The ones in the sticky post refer to two different T21 mods, one adds lights and barriers, the other adds tower lights to the 6C and 8C.

RHW-5? That could be referring to the idea of having an RHW version of a TLA-5: The TLRHW-5. The problem is that it can't provide zone access. The only true RHW-5 would be one made using RHW-4 on one side and 6S on the other. (Think of the 6S side as having a climbing lane for when you're snaking your RHW-4 through some mountains.)

Dare I ask? DDERHW-4 bridges?

Yes, there was one picture. And technically, it's just "DDRHW"; there's no elevated DDRHW, even though it is elevated. A ground DDRHW (L0 and L1) isn't that common.

I'm going to provide links to posts that contains valuable information (and pictures) about DDRHWs.

FAQ for DDRHWs

Bridges and Ramp Interfaces

Picture of an L2 Ramp Interface

REALLY old DDRHW that dates back to version 1.2, just for the heck of it

[Moonraker0]

About RHW5, this just refers to RHW version 5.0.

[ps2owner]

Xylo's mod? The ones in the sticky post refer to two different T21 mods, one adds lights and barriers, the other adds tower lights to the 6C and 8C.

RHW-5? That could be referring to the idea of having an RHW version of a TLA-5: The TLRHW-5. The problem is that it can't provide zone access. The only true RHW-5 would be one made using RHW-4 on one side and 6S on the other. (Think of the 6S side as having a climbing lane for when you're snaking your RHW-4 through some mountains.)

Yes, there was one picture. And technically, it's just "DDRHW"; there's no elevated DDRHW, even though it is elevated. A ground DDRHW (L0 and L1) isn't that common.

I'm going to provide links to posts that contains valuable information (and pictures) about DDRHWs.

FAQ for DDRHWs

Bridges and Ramp Interfaces

Picture of an L2 Ramp Interface

REALLY old DDRHW that dates back to version 1.2, just for the heck of it

Thanks for answering my questions!
RHW 5.0 is gonna be sweet!
I suppose you could cut down ramps by half with the new DDRHW.
(Dang spell check on Mozilla is saying that the network abbreviation are misspelled... )

[Tarkus]

An addendum on the ramp interfaces bit . . .



(And before anyone asks, yes, there will be more supports on that long MIS transition in the final version . . . it'll likely be one of the last things done before we wrap up 5.0, however.)

-Alex

[Nego]

Excellent job, Tarkus! Will there be a transition from L3 MIS to L2 MIS in version 5.0?

[JoeST]

oh wonderful  

[Nexis4Jersey]

We there be curved off ramps for situations like if there was a 2 tile Cliff running next to the highway we could just build a branch ramp and connect to the clifftop?

[Exla357]

So the DDRHW-4 slopes:
If the ERHW transition is 15 meters over 4 tiles, then it should go to show that the 22 1/2 meter upper deck should be about 5 tiles, but it seems substansially longer. Why is that?

-Alex

[GDO29Anagram]

If the ERHW transition is 15 meters over 4 tiles, then it should go to show that the 22 1/2 meter upper deck should be about 5 tiles, but it seems substansially longer. Why is that?

That's for realism. Plus the current L0 to L2 transitions (ALL OF THEM, EVEN THE NON-RHW ONES) are far too steep. (1 over 4 for most RHW height transitions.)

All these transitions were made when 15m was the norm for overpass height. I know for sure that the custom Ground MHW to El-MHW transition was even longer than the L0 to L2 RHW transition. I believe the High Five's approach ramps are about a mile long...

Will there be a transition from L3 MIS to L2 MIS in version 5.0?

One has to be made sooner or later; It wouldn't make sense if there weren't.

We there be curved off ramps for situations like if there was a 2 tile Cliff running next to the highway we could just build a branch ramp and connect to the clifftop?

Can you explain what you mean in detail? "Curved off-ramps" sounds like Maarten's TOTSO Ramp idea, and all that sounds like it could be accomplished using just the On-Slope transitions and the curved transitions.

[firefighter57]

So since the ramp is crazy high and crazy long, is there going to be any way to build other networks under parts of the ramp that are high enough?

[noahclem]

That's for realism. Plus the current L0 to L2 transitions (ALL OF THEM, EVEN THE NON-RHW ONES) are far too steep. (1 over 4 for most RHW height transitions.)

All these transitions were made when 15m was the norm for overpass height. I know for sure that the custom Ground MHW to El-MHW transition was even longer than the L0 to L2 RHW transition. I believe the High Five's approach ramps are about a mile long...

Agreed     In the case of the current L0-L2 RHW transitions there is a rise of 5 meters over a 16 meter distance for the two center tiles--almost a 30% grade, which is much steeper than most mountain roads.

@ firefighter57 - unless that transition is secretly a "waveride" type than other networks can't cross it. You could use 2 separate transitions (L3-L2 and than L2-L1) and cross a network under the L2 section in the middle.

[GDO29Anagram]

So since the ramp is crazy high and crazy long, is there going to be any way to build other networks under parts of the ramp that are high enough?

I had a similar idea, but with a curved height-transition (I dubbed it the FlexTransCurve). But if the FTC and "FlexTrans" were considered, it would essentially have to be WAVERide, like the FlexFly and FlexSPUI. Other than Noah's suggestion, the other way would be to use a tunnel right under it, but that would begin to fail when you have an elevated network that has to go under the entire thing.

Probably better to not have a FlexTrans (or FTC) that goes directly from 0 to 22.5m, but to have several that goes up one level at a time. (Modularity considerations.)

[ivo_su]

Whoa it seems that long time has come and RHW is nearing completion.  Congratulations  guys this is a really cool thing whether you  say 4.2 or 5.0. Last Showing  by Alex  was really  inspiring and amazing.  Once again  good job  to all of you.


- Ivo

[jdenm8]

There were plans to make the ERHW to ERHW transitions use WaveRIDE so you can drag networks under them, but those plans come after actually implementing the pieces.
I'd say not until RHW6.0 at a conservative guess for any new WaveRIDE puzzle pieces.

[Opkl]

I think a single-sided parallel ramp like the one for the sunken MHW would be nice for the RHW. It would allow for more urban/compact interchanges. Is something like that possible?

[Wiimeiser]

You mean a EMIS directly joining a RHW-4?

[GDO29Anagram]

I think a single-sided parallel ramp like the one for the sunken MHW would be nice for the RHW.

Are you talking about the RHW equivalent of those MHW Ramps that connect to a parallel OWR? If so, that sounds like a Frontage Road interface, which I've also been wanting to see. To me, that would require OWR Ramps with MIS connections, akin to Maarten's AVE-4 ramps, which would then connect to existing RHW ramps.

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The diagonal is MIS, the straight parts are OWR-2. Problem is that it would require many pieces. What if that were OWR-3 instead and it splits into OWR-2 and MIS, or even RHW-4? All I'm saying that the logistics of such aren't planned out yet, so it would be a while until such pieces are made.