NWM (Network Widening Mod) - Development and Support

[ivo_su]

Alex your amazing my brother.
Your reply me happy I wish you and the entire team successful work
and happy holidays

- Ivaylo

[Ramona Brie]

Though I love the NWM, I'm having a pickle because I need to elevate an avenue over a TLA-3 (and there are no puzzle pieces for networks over NWM).

[Wacky Worm]

Could you convert to RHW-4, then to ERHW-4 for the overpass? I believe ERHW can pass over NWM networks without any problem.

[Ramona Brie]

Actually, that's what it is (an RHW-4) converted. I'll have to try that.

[Tarkus]

The stuff-over-NWM and NWM-over-stuff are probably the two most requested things right now . . . they'll both be making their way into future releases.  Stuff-over-NWM will probably happen first.

-Alex

[ivo_su]

Alex I want to ask why OWR-4 and OWR-5 a car is so strange and they turn
in the opposite direction of movement

- Ivaylo

[Tarkus]

Alex I want to ask why OWR-4 and OWR-5 a car is so strange and they turn
in the opposite direction of movement

It's a side-effect of the crossover paths allowing traffic to use the entire width of the network.  Without them, the network is more or less useless, and unfortunately, despite a number of experiments, I have not yet found a way to allow the necessary crossovers without that side-effect.  The way the base OWR network's path reversing mechanism is handled complicates things a great deal, and it appears to be locked in the .exe.

-Alex

[ivo_su]

Guys I'd like to try to make transit-enabled lots for NWM roads, how can get their textures into LE?

- Ivaylo

[Tarkus]

The textures should already appear in the LE.  LE-readable versions of them are contained in the NetworkWideningMod_LotSupport.dat package.

-Alex

[Tarkus]

Well, today happens to mark the 8th anniversary of SC4's release--January 14, 2003.  It's amazing that things show no sign of slowing down with this great game.

Speaking of no slowing down, sounds like a good day for a development update. 

The triple-tile networks are humming along quite well.  Here's a T-Intersection with a MAVE-6 ending at a TLA-7.



Some of the MAVE-4 and MAVE-6 intersection textures are being revamped to align better with one another, with the goal of incorporating the asymmetrical MAVE-5 as a full network. 



I just undertook a similar process with some of the TLA-7/AVE-6/TLA-9/AVE-8 stuff to allow for asymmetrical TLA-8 and AVE-7, which has proven successful. 



-Alex

[ivo_su]

I love you Alex
This is GREAT. Just talking about it some time ago. For the moment I feel mild difficulty but I promise that I will try to  make underpasses  for pedestrians  of all  large  NWM road's.

- Ivaylo

[samerton]

Wow.. Alex!

It's making great progress! 

[Nego]

Ooo! This is exciting! It's been a while since a development update. It sure was worth the wait. Keep up the great work!
Oh, and happy birthday, SC4!

[Opkl]

Very nice work Tarkus! I have a few questions though, when zoned will the median in the AVE-6 be filled in with something like the normal maxis AVE? I some what like it empty as in your pic because it has a nice rural/suburban feel to it. Also will the TULeps pieces for these networks work with the MAVE-6? Thanks for all your hard work!

[GDO29Anagram]

[W]hen zoned will the median in the AVE-6 be filled in with something like the normal maxis AVE?

Unfortunately, no. Since the median's sandwiched between two other stretches of road, it's never going to touch any zones. Adding a median like what's on the default AVE would require a T-21 that has to be set so the props show all the time.

[SimFox]

That is really exciting development!
But just a though since we are finally to move to 3 tile networks and given that issue with median, wouldn't it be better to make it (on AVE8) smaller and instead expand sidewalks?
I also have one question - all the networks are basically flat models, right? I guess that is the reason you can't plop anything on the tile occupied by them. If that is so I just wonder would it be possible to employ a trick similar to one that could be used with prop/building models when one can specify "fake" size for them allowing some "free" space next to actual road, so some trees and some such could be plopped along the roads?

[Opkl]

Unfortunately, no. Since the median's sandwiched between two other stretches of road, it's never going to touch any zones. Adding a median like what's on the default AVE would require a T-21 that has to be set so the props show all the time.

That's good! I didn't want anything in the median.

[strucka]

How about at least having some bigger light masts in the center of the AVE-6/-8. I mean come on. Somethng has to be done. =) I know it's hard work, but it would really be outstanding work if there were medians. Maybe you should connect to the chinese, who made the AVE-2 medians. I really don't want to be a spoiled brat, but I am certain, this issue could be resolved and that would make a really awesome thing. How about the medians in RHW-6c? That's kind of a same thing, a 3-tile based network, with central median. Let's brainstorm people. Maybe if everyone gives out his idea about this, we can find a few connections that gets us to the answer. =)

A really magnificent job there Alex! I gotta say, it makes me really want to rub something, when I see your pictures (my mouse against the mousepad).

[MandelSoft]

Actually, it's not that hard to make T21s for the medians. But we should keep them optional, since not everyone wants it...

[Opkl]

Actually, it's not that hard to make T21s for the medians. But we should keep them optional, since not everyone wants it...

Yes please keep them optional.