RHW (RealHighway) - Development and Support

[MandelSoft]

Have you tried to drag them out of the starters with the RHW tool. That often works.

[mortaldanger]

Problem was I was using startless.  Figured that out, but when I do connect the two, the RHW-4 becomes an elevated road on one side.  I get this:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=179174176

Thanks again.

[GDO29Anagram]

Problem was I was using startless.  Figured that out, but when I do connect the two, the RHW-4 becomes an elevated road on one side.  I get this:

That's part of the RHW code derping up and giving you Elevated RHW-2 instead of L0 RHW-4. I'd usually put extra starters to make it extra-stable.

[mortaldanger]

Problem was I was using startless.  Figured that out, but when I do connect the two, the RHW-4 becomes an elevated road on one side.  I get this:

That's part of the RHW code derping up and giving you Elevated RHW-2 instead of L0 RHW-4. I'd usually put extra starters to make it extra-stable.

That did the trick.  Many thanks, it was driving me nuts.

PS: Do I have to do this verification everytime I post? 

[APSMS]

That problem (though I've not experienced that particular deconversion) is related to RUL2 override code (which determines the textures that the game shows for a given network (when using overrides).

It is solved by clicking randomly around the interchange until the right network appears. I know it sounds finicky and a strange solution, but it is and it works. This interchange I built had a large number of strange deconverts (due to proximity I think), but clicking around the intersection usually yields the desired results (eventually). Sometimes the right overriding click is found two or three tiles away on the wrong network, so try it out and see if that works.

If all else fails plopping a starter piece close by could solve the problem (though it's a less elegant solution).

Can you tell I have trouble with brevity?

EDIT:whoops. Ganaram was faster than me. And the verification goes away after about ten posts (to determine you're more than just a clever computer ).

[GDO29Anagram]

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It would be an override failure if everything deconverted down to RHW-2, but it was an "override derp" because it overridden to a different network.

Starter proximity bugs are typically due to recycled starters; RHW-6C and 8C are classic examples, because part of their starters use the RHW-4 starter (for 6C) and the MIS starter (for 8C). This isn't the case here, though it's also manageable.

And if you're really clever about starters, you'll find that some starters can have more RHW drawn directly over, below, or through it. I wrote about this in the RHW User's Manual.

[APSMS]

I think I'll have to take a second look at that manual then; I missed that part.

I think both derp and failure pop up in most of my interchanges at some point, but I'm probably not giving them enough space.

[Indiana Joe]

I'm gonna go back a few topics here.

Footnote for those watching at home: When puzzle pieces are made, their textures occupy part of an imaginary "sheet" that's 16x16, which is also occupied by other puzzle pieces of similar purpose.

Is there an automated way to name sliced images with texture IDs?  And if not, would it be possible to create a script that does that?  Due to the systematic nature of the IDs, it seems reasonable to me.  But I haven't ventured into coding that much.

[whatevermind]

Was catching up on this thread, and something odd caught my attention with the Irish/South African textures posted a few pages back:

The SC4 textures:

And the real world image from a few posts later:

No, this is the Irish/South African RHW texture set. Like this:

...don't match. 

Particularly, the traffic on the SC4 highway is driving in the wrong direction. The yellow line should be to the left of traffic, same as the American textures. A quick and not remotely scientific look at three randomly selected freeways confirms this:

Ireland:

South Africa:

USA:


Now, I realize there are all sorts of settings out there for RHD/LHD and many texture sets and mods and I could be completely missing something, and please correct me if I am, but seeing the two pictures just got me thinking something looked off.

[GDO29Anagram]

Is there an automated way to name sliced images with texture IDs?

Yes there is. Just be careful that you don't run over the textures of another puzzle piece.

http://www.jmvl.nl/simcity4/otmt/image_cutter.php

Puzzle pieces begin at the top-left corner and work their way down to the bottom-right corner, and it works with the x-axis going right and the y-axis going down. Now if I can just make more visuals describing how puzzle pieces work...

[Tarkus]

Yeah, it's just an RHD version of it (fictional to my knowledge).  If the LHD options were installed, it'd look just like what you've shown. 

-Alex

[MandelSoft]

It is indeed a RHD version. I was testing this texture set in a RHD game. There is an LHD plugin for it in the NAM (though the installer borks right now with LHD support by installing ALL alternative texture sets at once).

Also, I don't generally speak about the left or right line, but rather the inner and outer lines. If you check the textures according to that terminology, they match quite well.

[APSMS]

Inner and outer lane markings would be the defining factor, since otherwise the texture set would be unnecessary, since all American texture sets (RHD, that is) already have the yellow line on the left side.

However, perhaps it's worth noting that the yellow line in America is closer to the driver, while in Ireland/SA it's on the passenger side, which is more definitive than L/R designators when it comes to driving.

[MandelSoft]

^ Unless you drive with a continental car in Ireland

[whatevermind]

Interesting! Incidentally, it is a beautiful texture set. 

[Wiimeiser]

While we're on the subject of texture sets, what other combinations could be made? Any fantasy-ish sets?

[APSMS]

While we're on the subject of texture sets, what other combinations could be made? Any fantasy-ish sets?

You're seriously going there again? I mean, realistically speaking, not only could any texture set be made, but you could make it! I mean, it could even have ponies on the road with flowers as the lane markings (if that's your sort of thing). Why am I even gracing this with an answer?

Or you could make the Rainbow Road from Mario 64, though I doubt it'd be useful or attractive...

[Tarkus]

While we're on the subject of texture sets, what other combinations could be made? Any fantasy-ish sets?

41 times ye asketh?



Sculptural representation courtesy of Henri Vidal.

-Alex

[Indiana Joe]

Lol @ the above situation.

Yes there is. Just be careful that you don't run over the textures of another puzzle piece.

http://www.jmvl.nl/simcity4/otmt/image_cutter.php

Puzzle pieces begin at the top-left corner and work their way down to the bottom-right corner, and it works with the x-axis going right and the y-axis going down. Now if I can just make more visuals describing how puzzle pieces work...

This is glorious...except it doesn't maintain transparency.   

[droric]

Well I gotta say this...  Making a puzzle piece for the first time is definitely a challenging process.  But on the same accord I created the single curve in about 30 minutes since the dual was already done