Hello all. This is where I'll be showing my projects here at SCDevotion.
Today I've made up my mind and decided that I'll finally finish a project that's been on the pipelines for over 6 months: The Mexico City Cathedral. For now I'll show you a render made on November. I've advanced some more since then but there's still much work to do. Hopefully, I'll have it finished over this month.
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I am looking forward to this one.
Ooooooooooohhh... that's a lot of details. Looks great! :thumbsup:
Wow! What detail! It's immaculate! I can't wait for this! #stsfd·
:thumbsup:
Awesome textures :thumbsup: They look very realistic! I cannot wait for more :)
You know, I just love this piece of architecture. Good luck finishing it!
I can see there's is a lot to be done yet, as it's only the front part. [linkie (http://community.iexplore.com/photos/journal_photos/Cathedral(3).jpg)]
But surely it's already a beauty :thumbsup:
I think it is save to say that this promises to be amongst the very best of the very best BATs ever created.
Andale, andale &dance !!!
Exceptional. First class work. I cant believe what my eyes see ???
Once I though about trying to make Palma de Mallorca's Cathedral with the BAT. Now I am sure I will not even try $%Grinno$%
Looks interesting! Looking forward to it! :thumbsup:
You choose great buildings to BAT DebussyMan, and you recreate them SO well!!!
Wow - this looks fantastic, so much detail, awesome work man! &apls
Wow! What detail ! Great work Debussy ! &apls
holy mother of god! :O
I was having trouble deciding if that was an architectual studio render or a BAT render...
Thanks to all...
Here's another advance, this time only missing the central dome:
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:o oh wow! that looks fantastic debussy! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Wow, you surely did rush it, I wasn't expecting that so fast. It looks just atonishing &dance
OMG! Debussy, your buildings are always so utterly gorgeous! I can't imagine.... all I can say is Thank you (and hurry up? ;D ) &apls &apls &apls
Tankyou all! with luck, It'll be ready by next week.
@Rayden: I didn't just pull all these out of my sleeve on the weekend. As I said, the first pic I posted was it's state in November and I had been working on it since then. Just this time I decided to step on it and finish.
Ok, I was getting worried with myself. I take an hour to make a cube with a few windows and a door with some textures. I guess I'm not that dumb :P
Congrats, your work is amazing. &apls
This is increadible.
I never knew that this kind of quality was possible in this game.
The cathedral you amde is breathtaking gorgeous and astonishing real. A buidling with character indeed.
Definetelly worth every second of the 6 months spent on the project Debussyman!
Excellent!
Nik-Nik
That is a work of art!
Simply amazing.
This is a great building you are working on. Another masterpiece, indeed! I am eager to see this one and will definitely feature it in an upcoming city.
Your work never ceases to impress. ;D
All I can say is
OOOOOOOOOOOOH!!! :shocked2:
and again
OOOOOOOOOOOOOH!!! :shocked2:
How in the 'blankety...blankety" do you do that?
Keith
Absolutely amazing. there's no way in #$%% i could ever do that :thumbsup:
I saw that the Cathedral was released yesterday (9 February) on the STEX -> Click! (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=17761)
I thought that I'd rather comment here and give you more personal feedback instead of engaging in the multitudes of "OMG 10/10!"
I think it is an amazing piece of art that was very successfully captured by you in the BAT, and that you did a great job at it! I truly love it and, at the lack of a better way of rating, I would also give you "full marks" for it.
Thank you for releasing this, for putting countless hours into finishing it and making it yet another masterpiece!
Thank you very much, and keep up the good work!
Regards,
Marius
PS. Will it be at the SC4D Lex anytime soon?
M4346 - maybe you should go and rate it as it appears to have been seriously downrated by someone. How this can be less than 100% is incredible and I am thankful that our LEX doesn't have those problems.
Will do Barby, and please call me M or Marius. :)
I cannot think that anyone would be that petty to downrate it, but hey, such is life and it is really sad to see such childishness. /sad¬¬
That building looks beautiful and fantastic textures! :thumbsup:
Thanks Marius, all feedback means a Lot to me and I feel grateful. About the Lex, my intention was to upload it first here and to the STEX later, but I've had some problems since it is rejecting my zip file.
Quote from: DebussyMan on February 10, 2007, 04:25:34 AM
Thanks Marius, all feedback means a Lot to me and I feel grateful.
It's really no problem and the least that I, and others can do, for yet another amazing addition to the game. &apls &apls
Quote from: DebussyMan on February 10, 2007, 04:25:34 AMAbout the Lex, my intention was to upload it first here and to the STEX later, but I've had some problems since it is rejecting my zip file.
That's truly a pity, and I hope that it can be sorted out soon enough to avoid future nastiness.
You are the texturing, BATing God! SC4 players should be worshipping you in that cathedral...
Quote from: Eddie on February 10, 2007, 07:59:56 AM
You are the texturing, BATing God! SC4 players should be worshipping you in that cathedral...
Amen!
i second it &apls all hail Debussyman. :)
Downloaded and ready to go. Now I just have to build a city around it with the rest of your BAT:s.
*bows before the master of hispanic BAT:S
&apls &apls &apls
I will never tell enough how impressed i am with your BATs and your impressive progress in BATing! This last BAT of yours is a jewel!! And i realy look forward for more buildings from you, especialy villas and administrative buildings.. If I dare suggest something:
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Fortaleza-Secretariada Fazenda
This was my second choice for the SC Brasil competition but never managed to start it, and probably never will (i'm more concentrated to greek and french buildings nowdays).
I remember when you showed this off the first time when you were thinking about your Brazil competition buildings... It's quite beautiful... I'm partial to blue anyway, and offhand, I can't think of TOO many blue buildings in SC4!
Thanks Swi!
Funny thing, yesterday I followed a link you posted to your image gallery, saw this picture an tought about making it. I remember seing it for the first time in the BAT Brasil competition, but then there was no way I could make something like that.
Oooh! Nice choice for a building. :)
Even though that building looked very interesting, I decided to leave it for later. Now I took a different direction from my usual and went for gothic Architecture. Here's a sneak peak of Vienna's Votivkirche:
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:o :o
Debussyman you NEVER cease to amaze me! I just LOVE cathedrals / churches and that looks amazing! :o :o
You are the God of detail! I sure hope that it will be out and about soon, I can't wait to get my hands on that. :P
LOL! Even though I've only seen that much of it, I am so excited about it already. You maintain a standard of excellence that is unmatched! :thumbsup:
I'm jalous......
Just back from the computer shop...had to buy another one because I broke the other one when my chin hit the keyboard....and the Doctor says I can start eating solid foods in a few more days ;D ;D ;D
&apls &apls &apls &apls &apls
There is some serious work happening around these forums these days...And it's a pleasure to see art in progress.
Quote from: swi21 on February 19, 2007, 11:21:20 AM
I'm jalous......
Doesn't this say everything already? Same goes for me...
Wow! Can't wait to see this one on the LEX. Your creations are always top notch, and this one will greatly add to the diversity of available Cathedrals. (I secretly hope that you or someone else will eventually tackle the Stephansdom, Chartres or Notre Dame.) Uhhh, maybe that's not so secret anymore....
You're just starting and it's already incredible. The level of detail is fantastic. &apls &apls &apls
Looks awesome Debussyman... I love the intritcate details, especially the windows and the points above the door and window...!
A whole tower:
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My goodness....! That is truly amazing.
I love the detailing.... everywhere!
Wow
*droooooling, staring on the screen, total amazed and lost for words*
&dance &dance &dance
And ditto waht Arne said.
Can't %confuso to that....damn...another keyboard wrecked.
%confuso = hold a candle btw
Wow! you are too fast!!! I'm still under the shock of the other pic and now you hit me with this new one! Tooooo many emotions for one day for me!!!! :o
(*looks for the 'smiley' that shows total astonishment*)
OMG! That's..., It's..., Howd'....? OMG!
??? Speechless (again) :o
SPLAT!!!! Wipes off monitor...
Sorry. Got a little excited when I saw that tower.
(Boy, that's the last time I drink milk while reading this thread. What were you thinking?)
&apls Wow i just lost my jaws . You never stop to surprise me . Very very good looking. :thumbsup:
You are getting too good at this! It's like a whole new level of SC4! :thumbsup:
Quote from: ElPhantasmo69 on February 20, 2007, 03:27:19 PM
SPLAT!!!! Wipes off monitor...
Sorry. Got a little excited when I saw that tower.
(Boy, that's the last time I drink milk while reading this thread. What were you thinking?)
That you were throwing a tomato at your screen :D
-Jan
This is coming along beautifully! Wonderful details.
Here's a view of the whole facade:
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Hopefully, I will collect some compounded interest on my jaw once you have return it to me.:P Absolutely astounding top notch work, Debussyman! :thumbsup: :satisfied:
One word...
Incredible !!!
---Gaston
()what() HOW CAN YOU DO THAT ()what() Inncreeediiiible !!! *I've just stole Gaston's saying*
DebussyMan, this is indeed progressing beautifully :thumbsup:
What they all said &dance
I'm crying... lol. That's beautiful. :-[
The tower clocks do show different times :P But eh,.. Who cares for something like that on such a masterpiece :shocked2:
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Master of Excellence.
The man upstairs has blessed you with a overdose of talent.You are truly 1 heck of a artist. :thumbsup:
Awesome two detailed towers! :thumbsup:
I can agree with the previous posters! ;)
This is looking gorgous, and like the rest I bow for the master.
A new master is born... already a long time ago... Carlos, your talent is unbeatable.
Unbelieveable... this facade is awesome &dance &dance &dance
...............................I am speechless..................
That is absolutley outstand. The detail is incredible.
I can't wai to see this one finished. &apls
Arf ! Incredible.... The facade of the cathedral is magnificent &apls
It's at times like this, when I see such incredible work, that I search my thesaurus for words to express my admiration for your talent, sadly their are no words to adequately express that admiration! &dance &dance &dance
i suppose this might turn out alright with a bit more work (¬_¬) :D
Quote from: mightygoose on February 25, 2007, 02:34:52 PM
i suppose this might turn out alright with a bit more work (¬_¬) :D
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Magnificent work, my friend. &apls
Small update:
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Unbelievable. Just astonishing. The adjectives don't exist to shower enough praise on your work.
&apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls
Two words:
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Astonishing indeed &apls
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
*at a loss for words*
Awesome update and excellent progress! :thumbsup:
OMG...............i must leave space in my MD now for this. That is incredibly awesome.
:thumbsup: &apls :thumbsup: &apls
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Gee, so much detail, it's a pity sc4 doesn't show all that. Amazing work indeed &apls
My mouth dropped! Beautiful work &apls
Very nice! Great work!!! :thumbsup: &apls
That's no small update! That's a masterpiece unveiled. Great work.
WOW, WOW, WOW! A masterpiece indeed &apls
???
:-X
More expressive than any word .
Quote from: Bluebeard on February 22, 2007, 06:05:52 AM
The man upstairs has blessed you with a overdose of talent.You are truly 1 heck of a artist. :thumbsup:
I second that - you are blessed with a fantastic talent
Okay, that's it! I have officially run out of superlatives to describe the work being done here by you (and all of the BSC!) so, yup, I'm gonna start making up words!
Fantasmagorical!
Quote from: Rayden on March 05, 2007, 12:36:18 PM
Gee, so much detail, it's a pity sc4 doesn't show all that. Amazing work indeed &apls
There is hope. Does Caliban's Cathedral ring a bell?3DS MAX renders can save many of the details in a BAT.
Uber, once again!
Everything is absolutely top quality!
I liked the small update a lot ;)
Me too &apls Nice textures and details! Probably one of the best BATs I've ever seen...
Words fail me... so I let Kitty speak for me:
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Professionalism, period! &apls
You are a master (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg300.imageshack.us%2Fimg300%2F1211%2Fbowdownkq6.gif&hash=37c87657632f3c7a80794acd2c664055c24afd95) (http://imageshack.us)(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg300.imageshack.us%2Fimg300%2F1211%2Fbowdownkq6.gif&hash=37c87657632f3c7a80794acd2c664055c24afd95) (http://imageshack.us)(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg300.imageshack.us%2Fimg300%2F1211%2Fbowdownkq6.gif&hash=37c87657632f3c7a80794acd2c664055c24afd95) (http://imageshack.us) &apls &apls
It still looks great!
That simply... pisses me off... :'( :D Glad you remembered the roof though... good call there! ;D
Really... this is just amazing. I stand in awe until I fall down at which point I get back up and sit in awe.
JB
Extraterrestrial... &dance
I love this Gothic architecture. Beautiful creation. &apls
&apls &apls &apls
We really need a 'faint' smiley. I can't imagine how much time it must have taken to get that right.
Interesting choice of roof texture though. Is that permanent, is it on an actual church like this? I've never quite seen anything like that.
oh :o the cathedrale is... no word :o
Thanks all ;D
@cammo2003: I made the texture with a pic of the actual roof of the church:
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Astonishing. &apls Any word on your progress to date? Or do you enjoy keeping us in suspense? :D
However long it takes, it'll be worth the wait!
:thumbsup: &apls
This is going to be one great BAT. This is Vienna's most beautifull Gothic Church in my humble opinion. And often forgotten because mos't tourista come to see the Vienna of Mozart, or Strauss, or that of Maria theresia or even that of Sisi. Not that I don't like that, but there is so much more
I'm happy to folow the proceedings of this bat.
Strech,
Oh my god...
Oh my god...
oh..
o..
...
&dd
Ah, OK, so it is the actual roof texture. It is nice, though, I must admit. When complete it will certainly find its way into my already bulging plugins folder.
Speaking of which, probably time for some folder maintenance.
*opens DATpacker*
Here's the final version:
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&apls unfreaking believable!
! überfreaking unbelievable &apls
not bad....... :D :D
Gorgeous &apls &apls &apls
OMG........................ &apls &apls &apls
That is outstanding. The details are unbeleivable!!!
I bow in the presents of a BAT god.
Robin :thumbsup: &apls :thumbsup: &apls
Good God Debussyman! I don't know what to say! Wow! &apls &apls &apls
Quote from: callagrafx on April 13, 2007, 01:48:03 AM
not bad....... :D :D
Yeah... I guess it will do in a pinch! :D :D
Absolutely stunning! &apls
I think I'll trust what I see only when I'll see it "in(my)game" ... $%Grinno$%
All that work ... for an avatar : sure , the best ever ! :D
Extraordinary ... &apls &apls &apls
OMG !!!!! Take this building to SC5 !!!! &apls
wow this is awesome the detailing is amazing &apls &apls
Dear...GOD!!!! That is obscenely beautiful.
I can't describe how amazing is this, and all the work your spend at this.. :o
Mexico is lucky to have you here :) ;D :thumbsup: &apls
WOW I speechless again! I love it so much :thumbsup:
this is the best bat I've ever seen &apls
&apls gawd almahty that is purty :P
Oh my!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
&apls &apls &apls &apls
- Dont abuse the site resources please... jeronij-
OK, now that's officially an overuse of the smilies.... :D :D
Astounding creation. &apls &apls
DebussyMan, as noted by the above accolades, you have exceptional talent! Thank you for sharing that beauty with us all! &dance &dance &dance
Looks like this one turned out really well. The modelling and textures are both top notch &apls
Did Maxis ask you to be the top-designer for sc5 yet? :D If not, they should...
................................wow. :o
It is really superb. I'm speechless,
How to surpass this one with your next bat?
Strech.
I just wanted to say there is a guy who uploaded a church to the STEX, but he has this church as the main picture. If you go to the STEX you will know what i mean
Wow fabulous job Debussyman! The details are looking superb! &apls :thumbsup:
this church cannot possibly be overdone by anybody else...
Awesome church! Excellent details! :thumbsup: &apls :thumbsup:
That's one of the most beautiful creation for Simcity. This church is just amazing ! &apls
I can't take it! Is this available for download anywhere yet?
Awesome :thumbsup: &apls &apls
Amazing Chuch man....great job :thumbsup:
Saludos
The Votivkirche is in testing at the moment. Here is an ingame picture to drool over.
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Oh wow! &apls
Will it be BSC Park Texture compliant?! ;D Please say yes. :D
Yes
Yay!! :thumbsup:
Great job, both of you! &apls &apls
Wow, the lot is amazing! The composition with the red and pink azaleas (?) is just lovely, really great work. :) One thing that strikes me odd, though: Is it possible that there is a problem with the shadows? It looks like the front part of the church doesn't cast any shadows, since there is a bright spot right next to the right side of the tower.
This is a fine lot indeed. I can't wait to see it unveiled!
Fantastic job on the bat and the lot, both of you! &apls &apls &apls
Oh wow!!!! it is stunning
I'm already thinking of the city this church will become the centerpiece. At he north end of the medieval marketsquare. ;D
really wonderfull! &apls &apls
Strech.
Christ... :o
Now THAT's one hell of a model right there!
Quote from: Andreas on April 24, 2007, 01:02:09 PM
Wow, the lot is amazing! The composition with the red and pink azaleas (?) is just lovely, really great work. :) One thing that strikes me odd, though: Is it possible that there is a problem with the shadows? It looks like the front part of the church doesn't cast any shadows, since there is a bright spot right next to the right side of the tower.
Yes, I've noticed that too, but only in barby's pics. My game displays the shadows just fine.
Oh it's so great. The details on that church are truely amazing. Can't wait for the day it is finally released. :thumbsup:
Quote from: DebussyMan on April 24, 2007, 01:33:21 PM
Yes, I've noticed that too, but only in barby's pics. My game displays the shadows just fine.
Ah, that's good to hear. It's not a big issue anyway, I only discovered it because I admired Barby's wonderful lot for several minutes. ;)
Wait I saw this church on the STEX Or was it a good joke from Debussyman $%Grinno$%
Simply perfect and beautiful, excellent work boths, debussy for the incredible model and barbyw that lot is so perfect
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Hi DebussyMan,
Pardon me for my directness, and I do hope you're not offended by me asking.
But do you have any plans of releasing that gorgeous palace with the Copperroofed belltower Yoder displayed in his Osturland MD?
Just curious. ::)
Strech.
Great lot barby!!! These new paths will be awesome for BSC parks! Good work!
Amazing Bat DebussyMan, and a great lot to go with it barbyw. The church has so much incredible details, it is unbelievable.
Robin :thumbsup: &apls
&apls Fantastic work you have done both of you . Very high quality bat and lot. Thanks :thumbsup:
That is truly breathtaking.
omg now that's a church my 'secular' nation would love to have :D
Look forward to this, simply wonderful work again &apls
Thanks all. Now that the votiv has been finished and uploaded, I've started a new church. I'd say I'm hooked on gothic ::)
Guess which one
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O-M-G is that Notre Dame ;D ???
excellent work! :thumbsup: &apls
Oooooooooooooh! Intriguing!!!
It wold be cool to have some complementary Gothic buildings... civic and such... to create a nice Gothic enclave.
You are great! :thumbsup:
Absolutely increadible. And Gorgeous. You are quite the genious :)
If you like gothic then you'll like my up comming project of Hillsborough High School (There is a picture of the real building in my thread on page one).
I can't wait for this release, I love all of your buildings and your spanish style buildings is reminant of my home towns historic district Ybor, where all the buildings are a spanish/american/italian mix. It makes for a gorgeous area of the city.
Quote from: HabLeUrG on May 09, 2007, 04:33:44 PM
O-M-G is that Notre Dame ;D ???
Oh yes it is ... %BUd% I know a lot of people in France ( and every elsewhere ) who are going to becone hysterical seeing this ... Let me be the first .
A French Cancan cabaret is requested .... ;D
&dance &dance &dance &dance &dance &dance &dance &dance &dance &dance &dance &dance &dance &dance &dance &dance &dance &dance &dance
wonderfull,
I think I'm going to concur with the Notre Dame, (was there 3 weeks ago...sigh)
If not, my first guess is that it almost has to be french and not German or English gothic.
If I find some time I'll rummage through my books on Gothic architecture. There must lie the answer. although I'm pretty sure that HabLeUrG and I have guessed it right ;D then again, maybo not. :(
What does the winner get as a reward? :D
Strech.
I join Badsim in the parade &apls
NOTRE DAME?!? Aaaaaallright!!! !(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Femo%2Fhappy057.gif&hash=c856bc552a269dd56dcfa3e8846c98f91aaacff1)
Three cheers for Debussyman!! (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Femo%2Fhappy066.gif&hash=a8c813a427f224abf55899aab191e8bce193800a)
is it gonna have a hunchback :P
That's an awesome start for this church.
Looking forward to the end version of Notre Dame!
Quote from: Zaphod on May 10, 2007, 01:42:18 PM
is it gonna have a hunchback :P
Hopefully...I can think of several candidates for the post too :D :D :D :D
Oh my, this is absolutely stunning! :thumbsup:
I can't wait to see how this bad boy turns out. :)
Yeah that look quite much like the portal of Notre Dame.
You have chosen a fabulous church, the Votivkirche was already awesome, now i am already very curious how this will turns out. :thumbsup: ;)
Well, you've got it. It is Notre-dame de Paris.
I'm still working on it, and will probably take some time. Meanwhile, here's a gothic revival mansion based on Lyndhurst. Lot will be in the hands of Barby.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg341.imageshack.us%2Fimg341%2F443%2Flyndfinase8.jpg&hash=66f9de21f5fad3215c4a68f2caea3f8b1bad1414)
wow thats a really beautiful mansion, excellent work :thumbsup: &apls
Bravo!
A wonderfull piece Debussyman! &apls &apls
Happily enough it is just what I need for one of my next updates. not that tha's relevant, Not that that's important, but it stil is a fortunate coincidence. ;D
I look forward to it.
Strech.
You have another winner here! I am ready to crown you as BAT King! &apls
Great work on the mansion, it has a nice gothic-medieval atmosphere. &apls
&apls &apls Bravo Brillant idea and very well done. Another masterpiece :thumbsup:
that churche is looking awesome!! :thumbsup: &apls
Nice building. A lot of towers, windows of different shapes and sizes, all make this building very interesting to look at. I like the stone texture and especially like the ivy wall on that one tower. In fact, probably one of the best ivy covered walls I've seen.
Beautiful mansion and very real as always, debussy.
And amazing beginning for the catedral of Notre dame
Bravo Debussyman &apls, &hlp, :D, ;D, ()stsfd(), ::), $%Grinno$%, :P, :thumbsup:, :), :o, here a nice diploma for you "$Deal"$. That's it for the icons.
BTW, a little change in the first portal on the right is needed. This doors as been built to small on the real one so the middle-age architects decided to add a triangular shape above to make it look taller. I don't see this shape above the first right entrance. Hope it is not to hard to change (if it is, forget my sentence).
You are right un_ame. But I remember the triangle was on the left one ???
Anyways, it was indeed made to give it a more symmetric effect because the size of the portal was smaller than the ther two (in fact, the entire church is asymetric because the right tower is narrower than the left one). But, as I just copied both towers (waay easier than modelling each one) this issue is corrected. Maybe when I have the whole front complete I'll see if it is convenient to add it or not.
And thanks everyone else for your comments &hlp
:o OK you're left, no no right :P. It's my everlasting problem (I say right when I think left et vice-versa).
Hi DebussyMan - hope you don't mind my posting this here. I noticed the Vienna Votivkirche building model doesn't show in zoom 5 (the farthest) or in the region view - shows up as a blank lot. Doesn't matter much - this is still one of the most detailed and beatiful BATs out there - but I just thought you'd want to know...
Quote from: snorrelli on May 28, 2007, 11:54:46 AM
Hi DebussyMan - hope you don't mind my posting this here. I noticed the Vienna Votivkirche building model doesn't show in zoom 5 (the farthest) or in the region view - shows up as a blank lot.
That's zoom 1 (zoom 5 is the closest ;) ). Unfortunately, DebussyMan ran into some rendering problems, so the BSC had to piece the model together manually from some test renderings (which was a real pain, as you can imagine). The nightlighting has been created manually with Photoshop, too. The zoom 1 images were lost, though, so the church couldn't be recreated for that zoom level.
Andreas: Actually it's not unusual to have these render-problems in zoom stage 5. I've got the same problem with many downloads. For example nearly EVERY mediterrean building mbear did shows this mistake. While playing I've no problem with it, but when I want to take a closer picture it's very annoying.
Exactly as Andreas said. And be thankful it just doesn't appear, originally it displayed a large ugly blue box at that zoom ()sad()
Quote from: DebussyMan on May 28, 2007, 01:13:26 PM
Exactly as Andreas said. And be thankful it just doesn't appear, originally it displayed a large ugly blue box at that zoom ()sad()
LOL - As I said, not a big deal. I never really use that zoom - just happened to place it in a new, nearly empty city and first noticed from the region view. Thanks for the clarification on the zoom thing too, Andreas. I can never keep that straight, which is why I specified in parentheses ::). Guess it makes sense - more zoomed-in, higher number... ;)
Hi DebussyMan &hlp,
I little Post to have some news about this wonderfull project.
Now that you ask I guess I could show you some progress. Not much though...
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg114.imageshack.us%2Fimg114%2F2482%2Fnotrpt8.jpg&hash=499cb04a01967480ef8bf6c176462d3a64f05e45)
I'll update once i've finished the whole facade.
jeez the detail is so intricate, its amazing! loving what im seeing
I already ear "Emmanuel" the biggest tower bell :).
Sencillamente maravilloso :thumbsup: ¡¡¡
No me puedo hacer una idea de tu habilidad con el MAX :o . Solo de pensar en el tiempo que me llevaria a mi hacer algo remotamente parecido, se me quitan las ganas ::) ;) ¡¡¡
English: Simply wonderful :thumbsup: ¡¡¡
Rightyright! Can't wait to see it as a high-quality render with doors and everything... That will be a pleasure for my eyes.
Keep on that great work dude! &apls
Concuerdo con Jeronij, tu simplemente me impresionas sobre la calidad de tus BATs, no sé pero hasta el gobierno te debería contratar para hacer obras públicas, jeje ;D
excelente trabajo! :thumbsup:
english: excellent work! :thumbsup:
The facade is really well done, unbelievable the details you have put into it. Stunning :thumbsup:
good job ! But do you use 3Ds or Gmax ? because I see only view like in sc4
He does use MAX (3DS Max).
Great work, D.
That's using the BAT4Max script and Max's internal render engine to get a more defined image...It's the best way of checking the textures under BAT lighting rather than Max's generic illumination.
Here are a nice picture of the part of Notre-Dame Debussyman has already done(http://lacot.org/photos/2001/07/paris/low-resolution/2001_paris_33.jpg) and this HiRes picture of the facade by night (after the last cleaning made by laser beam that reveal the real color of parisian limestone) where you could see the incredible lace of blond stone :o! (http://www.myparisnet.com/wp-content/images/NotreDame-Paris-000.fullsize.JPG).
thank you for the reply :)
Small update. Added some of the structure. Still has dummie towers.
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nice, and if you wanna do what that architect did to the Lyon opera you could always have two ugly glass cubes instead of church towers:P
Nah, just kidding, nice work Debu! :thumbsup:
C'est magnifique! &apls &apls &apls
This is just... - I'm speechless. :o Outstanding work, really. &apls
if there ever is a most beautiful BAT ever made award, i think this building is very likely to win it ;D but then you could say that for so many of your buildings &apls
no words... :shocked2: &apls &apls
Arghhh &smrt!!! I wasn't aware that you, actually, made also the inner pillars !! Just like the real one was built !!!
I mí me gusta tu maravilloso trabajo !!
Merci, Gracias, Thank you
Quote from: Une_ame on June 22, 2007, 10:48:30 PM
Arghhh &smrt!!! I wasn't aware that you, actually, made also the inner pillars !! Just like the real one was built !!!
Of course I did, that's the fun part! ;)
Speaking of which, here's a pic of the nave/transept crossing vaulted roof.
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Wow that's amazing detailed! Unfortunatly we can't see those in game :( But cool to know that you work that realistic.
You really do put the rest of us to shame... &apls &apls &apls
DebussyMan, eres un maesto. Alucinante la calidad del modelo &apls
Be...... :o It's fantastic ! OMG lol
Absolutely fabulous &apls &apls
Ya me tienes soñanado... hasta pones detalles que el juego ignorará, me tienes sorprendido &apls &apls
Wow what can i say, the details are really amazing, the structures are very well done, i'm eagerly looking forward to more of your work. :thumbsup: &apls
It's simply amazing.... :o
The inside pilars and roof are so good... I hope they will be shown when the building is build in a city ?
Hey, can you please attach the stone texture? That would be great, I could really use this for my new project.
A masterpiece succeeding to another masterpiece....
As there were cathedrals BATisseurs ( bâtisseurs = builders) , you're our cathedrals BATer ... After bandito(disappeared) and xannepan (not very active these last times ), how lucky we are ! ::)
&apls &apls &apls
Which will be the next one ? Chartres ? Cathedral of Chartres ( 1145 ) is the only one to have still its original architecture , sculptures and stained-glass windows . Classified by the UNESCO world heritage centre .
Just a dream that you decide one day to BAT it . Aren't you addicted now to that kind of architecture ? $%Grinno$%
Thankyou all!
@Sebes: Sadly, the interior won't show at all ()sad()
@FromTheAshes: the texture is a clean irregular stone texture with a brick bumpmap. Do you want just the stone one or both?
@Badsim: Chartres is definately in my to do list, but before it I have some other projects (including Burgos Cathedral).
Finally, here's an image of the completed nave. The last interior shot I'll make as I must start with the outside if I want to finish it anytime soon ;D
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Quote from: DebussyMan on June 24, 2007, 01:21:14 PM
@FromTheAshes: the texture is a clean irregular stone texture with a brick bumpmap. Do you want just the stone one or both?
Oh, I guess it would be fine to have em both :thumbsup:
Great update btw! Lovely detailed but, hey, you already know that :P
Wow those inside shots are insane. ;)
Already modeling for SimCity 5, like blahdy, eh? ;) Simply stunning!
thats beautiful! :thumbsup: &apls
That's more than stunning, that's MEGA stunning. &apls
Those inside shot looks like in a 3 D ego perspective game, can't hardly belive the detail you put into it. :thumbsup: &hlp
Se llama arte amigo. &apls
That is what I call art, my friend. &apls
Thanks all!
FromTheAshes:
Here's the base stone:
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Here's the bumpmap:
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thanks alot, man!these will be useful for me aswell! &apls
:shocked2:
humina humina humina humina
Alone in the night $%#Ninj2, somewhere in Mexico, somebody is building a Cathedrale!!!!!!!!
Now, somewhere in California, a bunch of guys working for Tilted Mill know what they have to do for SC5!!
I found some nice stuff on Notre-Dame (for the one, like me, that can't wait !!) : http://www.ide.fr/BOJ-Mon-NotreDame.jpg.
For the inside, see the post below made by vester ( ;D).
Thanks for the textures! They look really interesting. But unfortunatly I don't know how to handle them. I put on the sandstone texture to a simply cube, choose "Bump" with an amount of 80 and entered the bump-image you attached. On the little preview inside the ME I can see the pattern, but on the cube it doesn't appear.
FromTheAshes: Are you using gmax? If so, I'm afraid it doesn't support bumpmaps, only 3ds max does.
That inside is just.. Wow, breathtaking, man! :shocked2:
Thanks for the textures.
Une_ame: Please don't double post and please shorten the description in the link. It breaks up the page layout. Could be: The Inside of Notre-Dame (http://www.orpheia.hu/album/fassang/notre_dame_de_paris/fassang18o.jpg/view_fr)
Quote from: DebussyMan on June 24, 2007, 10:09:05 PM
FromTheAshes: Are you using gmax? If so, I'm afraid it doesn't support bumpmaps, only 3ds max does.
Oh what a pity :( Well, my father got the MAX, I'll try to get it, because he doesn't need it :P
Amazing ... C'est époustouflant :o
They are images for a new play :P
Bravo &apls
Its great!!!I love !!!!!!Bravo elle est géniale!! &apls :thumbsup:
I think you've outdone yourself. Between Notre Dame and Metropolitan Cathedral I'm not sure which is better. Your rendering of the inside of the cathedral is just breath taking.
Keep up the fantastic work. :thumbsup:
I ve got a idea for you!!!
La Cathédrale de Chartres!The most beautiful in Europe!!( yes i read that!!)
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wow that is a pretty church adept :wings:
Yes a famous cathedral!!!! ;) I love it!lol!! :thumbsup:
Adept2Rock ( proskater ) watch the badsim's post lol
It's true that Chartres looks realy big (which one is the bigger, BTW? ()what()) and is untouched since it was build almost 900 years ago.
But, Nôtre-Dame de Paris (has it is in Paris and because of the Revolution, Napoleon and Victor Hugo) has an unmatched historical and romantical impact on the entire world spirit.
Which post antoine?!!!( t'as reconnus ma vraie identité!)lol
Celui du 24 juin, page precedente. (the 24 June one, previous page).
Ah exacte!!!Elle est bien connue!!Thanks!!! :thumbsup:I will wait my cathedral!!!I love Notre Dame de Chartres!!
Simplemente sorprendente! Me gusta como te quedo el interior de esa hermosa catedral &apls un excelente wallpaper. :thumbsup:
AMAZING !
Thanks all. Gracias a todos ;)
About Chartres: I do have it planned, but not sure when exactly will I start it.
Meanwhile, to rest a little from Notre-Dame (It does get tedious, specially with such big projects), I started another church, much more easier, it is Frauenkirche from Munich:
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And if you missed it, Thomaskirche in Leipzig, which is now aviable on the LEX
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I love you creations!When you want start my cathedral, it's possible for me to help you!! :thumbsup: I lived at 5 minutes from Notre Dame de Chartres!! ;)
I need to build more cities to house all of these wonderful churches! I am eager to see your next creation! :thumbsup: &apls
Debussy you are the boss for cathedrale :thumbsup: excellent
WOW OMG i so totaly echo what Antoine said here!!!! &apls &apls That is just stunning work And such
detail on Frauenkirche... i do have one question though where could i find this of yours? Casas Coloniales...
Thank you for your help and such stunning work - pat
As I've actually seen the "Frauenkirche" in reallife yet, I must say, it's very good rebuilt! I'd love to see some stuff from Wolfsburg (my home city), too. But I guess it's to modern architecture, so it wouldn't fit into your collection. But if you want a contrast ;) I suggest you the following buildings:
VW Werk-Kraftwerk:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww1.dasan.de%2Fj%2F%2Fmedien%2Fbilder%2Fautos%2Fvwwerk9102.jpg&hash=016deae3a7375899601b6eb3bf7a0633948a0a2b) (btw, do you driva a beetle? If you do, its been built here in WOB ;))
The "Phaeno" science center:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailyshot.de%2Fmedia%2Fdailysht20060819.jpg&hash=109730f012df9d73e9acfbce05c7c32f9b403428) (Pretty trick I guess...)
If you're interested check out the following source: WOB-Citytour (http://www.wolfsburg-citytour.de).
Or something traditional? Heres the "Wolfsburg" (means wolves castle) which gives our city its name:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wolfsburg-citytour.de%2FSchloesser%2FGrundriss_Schloss_WOB%2FIMG_0741c.jpg&hash=870a46d769a810f6807ceeafdc7c1c995e83d5d1)
BUT first of all: Finish your current projects ;D
Spectacular creations!! all of them!!!
They really take my breath away when i see them!
Ahora sales con catedrales que ni conocía :shocked2: excelente trabajo! :thumbsup: &apls &apls
Wow! You work very fast. I was looking through the LEX and I thought those were old creations you uploaded recently.
You're on fire DebussyMan. Spectacular work! &apls
Hi Debussy Man:
I hope this is Ok to post here, if not please forgive me.
I downloaded the "Thomaskirche library" and one of the depencencies it asks for is "ghReversePathOverlaysPack1.dat"
I've looked on the BSC file exchange and also did some searches on STEX but I can't seem to locate this .dat file. Is it included in another file or some other lot that you have created?
Will you point me in the right direction to find this dependency?
It's probably as "plain as the nose on my face." but I can't see it. :(
Thanks.
Keith
Not really sure, but I think it is a false dependancy from the SC4Tool as I can't find it in my plugins folder either. I'm almost positive it is included in the BSC Mega textures pack. Would have to ask someone more knowledgable about this.
I haven't installed it yet, so I don't know if I get a "brown box."
I was just trying to make sure I had everything before I installed it. I'll give it a go and see what happens.
Thanks for the quick response.
Keith
It is a texture and is in BSC Textures Vol01.
Thank you Thank you! :thumbsup:
BarbyW---May you be blessed with happiness and many smiley faces.
Seriously, thanks for info.
Like I said before, "It's as plain as the nose on my face." &ops
Keith
Quote from: FromTheAshes on June 27, 2007, 07:05:30 AM
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww1.dasan.de%2Fj%2F%2Fmedien%2Fbilder%2Fautos%2Fvwwerk9102.jpg&hash=016deae3a7375899601b6eb3bf7a0633948a0a2b) (btw, do you driva a beetle? If you do, its been built here in WOB ;))
Oh wow! That is a really georgeous mix of old and new! That's just fabulous!
its also huge..... it may have to be scaled down for sc4 use
Yeah actually the whole factory is as big as a small city...That's why who ever wants to BAT this one, can only do the powerplant (the building shown with the 4 chimneys). I don't know how tall the chimnes are, but the are even taller than the highrises in the background.
BTW: There are 50.000 working in the factory. Does anyone need a building with 50.000 jobs in SC4? ;D
Maybe jestarr wants to rebuild this one. He likes to bat industrial buildings, doesn't he?
QuoteBTW: There are 50.000 working in the factory. Does anyone need a building with 50.000 jobs in SC4?
Well... I actually need a building with 50,000 jobs. I have a huge shortfall of jobs. Especially industrial ones. :P
Love the churches, Debussyman!
FromTheAshes:
that Phaeno building is fantastic!! do you have more pictures of it? where is it located 8could you provide google earth coordinates? I could give it a go!
Simfox, I think you can have a go at this site just for a start
http://www.phaeno.com/
The Phaeno is brand-new - it's not yet available via Google Earth yet. ;) It's located just south of the Volkswagen Autostadt in Wolfsburg, Germany. Here's a link to Virtual Earth, which seems to have the newest pictures: http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=sr4b2fhwz8jk&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=10814877&encType=1
I've sent SimFox a lot of information now. I think we don't need to speek about this in DebussyMans showcase. Maybe anyone wants to open a thread to show cool real architecture for the BATers to recreate. That would be fine I guess...
debussy you could always look at this building its more suited to your style...
[linkie] (http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=sr4znphwz86c&style=o&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=10814850&encType=1)
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building 12
It's a Ritz Carlton hotel. I was thinking if I'd take this project ;)
BTW, Debussyman, if you found some time, can you tell us if you've made some upgrades on Nôtre-Dame ?
Gracias mí amigo :sunny:.
Well, I'm currently on a month-long trip in Canada, so I won't be able to make any updates or work on it until august.
I hope it's for vacation !! Have a good trip :).
Quote from: DebussyMan on July 11, 2007, 04:12:23 PM
Well, I'm currently on a month-long trip in Canada, so I won't be able to make any updates or work on it until august.
Where are you visiting? There are so many beautiful places to visit in this country, I don't even know where to begin.
Have a great vacation!
I can't wait to see your work again, it always makes me go ooooh and awe, I absolutely love comming in here and seeing the great deal of detail you put in. :thumbsup:
Enjoy the great northern territory hehe.
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Hey, this may be a noobish question, but where can I find the reward requirements for the Vienna Votivkirche? The tooltip in the in-game menu for the church says that it requires the "CAL Willow Tree Cottage BSC", but I can't find it anywhere. I would love to be able to use this beautiful church as a centerpiece to my city, San Jose.
Thank you for your time.
You can find Cal's Willow Tree Cottage here:
http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=734 (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=734)
It is also a reward which requires the CSX Mansion - Cromwell Estate, which you can find here:
http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=282 (http://http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=282)
The Cromwell Estate is ALSO a reward that will be offered once your city is 75 years old.
--Scott
Thank you very much!
A little update. Been experimenting a bit with the Bell towers.
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:o ............. :o ! Awesome details.
&apls
Robin :thumbsup:
This is a really impressive project. I could never tolerate putting in all those tiny details. It would drive me nuts. Yet you make it look easy. Keep up the great work.
Looks awesome so far! Beautiful details! :thumbsup:
Quote from: ScottFTL on July 26, 2007, 06:31:25 PM
You can find Cal's Willow Tree Cottage here:
http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=734 (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=734)
It is also a reward which requires the CSX Mansion - Cromwell Estate, which you can find here:
http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=282 (http://http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=282)
The Cromwell Estate is ALSO a reward that will be offered once your city is 75 years old.
So it's a reward that requires a reward that requires a reward that requires yet another reward? Fun, fun. Must be hard to keep track of. :P
Or you could just cheat. :P
Looks awesome, by the way, debussyman! Shame some of the detail will be lost in game.
Debussy : excellent !!! but you forgett the statues on the first floor
SA, you need the BSC Reward Chains info from the LEX. That reminds me I must update it to include the new ones.
Looking really great! :D Great job thus far!
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I hope that can help you ^^
Your BAT looks very, very promising! I've been in Paris at the beginning of August - indeed it seems to be quite similar to the real Notre Dame ... ;D
It's a pity that your "Votivkirche" suffered that accident with Zoom 1. I've visited the original some days ago.
Some pictures: http://www.simforum.de/showthread.php?t=145853 => Post 5
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EDIT: The thumbs of the Votivkirche on the site specified above have to be visible now!
(=> myImg -> ImageShack)
Fantastic progress debussyman - as spa said you make these intricacies look effortless; to me it's amazing to see the massing of all of the columns around the window supports.
Antoine - by the looks of the gaps between the pillars on the first floor, I'd say debussyman is leaving space for the statues
Thank you all ;D
Antoine: I didn't forget them, I'm just gonna place them, as well as the chimeras and most of the garygoles, at the end. If I put tem now, they'll just create unnecesary lag in the modelling.
Here's another update, started working on the nave exterior and the roof. The towers are still not finished.
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How simply devine. Amazing work indeed, so impressive, that will look just fabulous in one of my grand cities. :satisfied:
Wonderful work.. &apls
Simplemente impresionante ;) &apls &apls
Debussyman this is simply impressive, great job and i cant wait to see the gargoyles
Excellent !!!
It's a good idea for the statues ;)
This is looking wonderful! &apls
You just keep amazing me.
That, that, that.....oehh looks.... FANTASIC
That is looking WONDERFUL so far! :thumbsup:
Quote from: DebussyMan on August 24, 2007, 08:45:15 PMAntoine: I didn't forget them, I'm just gonna place them, as well as the chimeras and most of the garygoles, at the end. If I put tem now, they'll just create unnecesary lag in the modelling.
Looking as beautiful as ever.
Here's an idea to prevent lag...Use Xref scenes. Model the gargoyles etc, but use the main model as an external reference. It also allows for ease of selection. When they are done, simply remove the xreference and then reference the gargoyle model as an external file to the main (like a dependency :D :D) It works a treat for large, complex models and helps keep the editing fluid.
Really outstanding job! The details are unbelievable &apls :thumbsup:
Debussyman, that is a beautiful model there, and cal that is a great idea, i have managed to get the warehouse to render using xrefs and i may start to use it for modelling too
Is there a comparison of "best"? Wellst done!!! ;D
:satisfied: More BATs from Paris, more BATs from Paris!!! :satisfied:
Just kidding, vester. ;)
Everytime I check on the progress of this building, I have to shake my head in utter disbelief. Your skill is incredible! &apls
Oh my goodness!
The Notre Dame de Paris is coming along beautifully!
Think of the cities this grand dame will be the center of attention. :)
(BTW I have posted the first of our Listerlunde cycle)
Strechnitz.
everytime I look at your work I have to pick my jaw up off of the floor - I have gone into serious debt just having the Dr. put my jaw back in place :D - supurb work look forward to the next update - and my next Dr. bill :D
Coming back after a little tour, I think I'm not gonna be very original : this building is the most awsome &apls, your skill increase (again) with the time and hopefully (for me) your last buiding is this Cathedrale !!
With the new buidings that Porkissimo prepares, we gonna have another reason to (re)buid Paris ;D.
Thanks
I am thrilled to see the progress on the Notre Dame since my forced absence from the net. This masterpiece brings tears in my eyes.
Nice...nice...nice!!! :thumbsup:
You have much courage to carry out this kind of BAT, but considering the result, you made well.
Good luck for the continuation!!!
Quote from: Une_ame on August 27, 2007, 11:14:17 PM
With the new buidings that Porkissimo prepares, we gonna have another reason to (re)buid Paris ;D.
Thanks
Is there a thread on this, my goodness this news along with the Notre Dame de Paris is such wonderful news. ;)
May I also congratulate you on the work you have done with Stropon's Palace, Hubert has been such a tease and I have been awaiting the full picture, and it looks stunning my friend, something to be very very proud of. Will any of the palace be availble for public release??
No, Belfastuniguy, there's no thead on it : I've e-mail Porki about a possibility of new building and he answers me that he is working on new W2W buidings that will fit diagonal streets (Hausmann style I presume :thumbsup:).
Those buildings must be ready by End September, Porki seems to be busy by the RL %wrd!!
Porkissimo's new diagonal buildings are no secret any longer. :) I await them eagerly - like prepo's ones.
And of course Notre Dame ... ... &hlp
But I don't want to exert pressure on anybody!!!
Vive la France! ()stsfd()
Porki told me that I can write about his projects, I don't think there is any secret here. I'm just like you, I can't wait longer..... ()sick()
Quote from: belfastuniguy on August 28, 2007, 04:49:49 PM
May I also congratulate you on the work you have done with Stropon's Palace, Hubert has been such a tease and I have been awaiting the full picture, and it looks stunning my friend, something to be very very proud of. Will any of the palace be availble for public release??
I agree! LOL! Hubert has, however, divulged a little more of the details to me, which I'll be willing to in return discuss with you. :P But, Debussyman, all of this is SPECTACULAR! I cannot even express my astonishment :D
&apls &apls &apls
So much good news in this thread ... a masterpiece is growing and Porkie is alive ...
Thank you . :)
Notre Dame looks wonderful so far! I can't wait until it's finished :)
notre dam is so beautiful debussyman, wow! and porki's alive? what great news aswell :) this day just gets better and better!
That model is just... Wow... it's beyond words... and it certainly beats my models to pulp... :D
Quote from: Glenni on September 13, 2007, 11:08:00 AM
That model is just... Wow... it's beyond words... and it certainly beats my models to pulp... :D
It beats all of our models to pulp :D ;)
Thanks all :)
Now it's update time.
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The choir:
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Drool. It's amazing!
Thanx Brother for the the update.We have been blessed having you here sharing such masterpieces. :thumbsup:
Not bad... &sly lol it's EXCELLENT ! A masterpiece !!! Do you have a 64bit computer ?
It looks like fabulous progress again! This will be a magnificent landmark when it is done! ;D
drooling drooling drooling............ :D
Looks fabulous, truly wonderful work &apls
praise god! :o That is one heck of a masterpiece :thumbsup:
Mir hat's glatt die Sprache verschlagen ...
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fdsafawr :o :o :o
I can't even think the nightlighting %confuso
:o :o :o :o
Man :o, how long have you work on that masterpiece so far ?
I try to find what will be your next work ()what() :
- the top of the 2 main towers and the "grill" that make the sounds of the bells going downward (orange right now)
- the central metallic tower
- the 2 laterals facades (which are orange on your picture)
- the statues
- the nightlights and the LOT.
I am right ? Keep going Debussyman &apls &apls &apls &apls.
You are making wonderfull progress my friend.
This beauty is nearing reality closer with every part you make.
splendid :thumbsup:
Strechnitz.
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:o My mouth drops to the floor and I have nothing else to say.
&apls &apls &apls
Robin :thumbsup:
What can I say :shocked2: you are now the new DebussyKing...! &apls &apls
sorry - words are failing - &apls
Thank you all ;D
Antoine: No, I don't have a 64bit computer. I wish I did so I could work faster ()sad()
Une_ame: Yes, that was pretty much what was left to make.
Here's a new shot. Almost complete now. Just missing the statues and the roof details so I can work on the nightlighting (Sadly, I'll have to make a very simple one, 3 omnis tops. I wish I could make it like the real one, but my machine would crack open if I did) and export.
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Just another keyboard drowned in drool.
This is simply spectacular and I for myself don't care for a big nightview if it's already that great looking at day &apls
I agree with Lars. This is another gem from you and needs no fancy night lighting.
&apls &apls excelente trabajo... no tengo mas explicación... :o
I agree with Lars and Barby, no need for lights :P This is too great with or without lighting. One of the bats I've ever seen :thumbsup:
Ligths?! Bah! This is sexy on its own! We can always pretend that the people in the Cathedral actually sleep at night too, like the rest of us. :P
Sorry but i don't agree :-[ Your work is excellent and so realistic, and I think you must finish it with the real nightlight to have a complete BAT ;)
Luckily, my keyboard is drool-proof, but please excuse me now, because I have crawl below my desk in order to find my jaw again... ;) Spectacular work! &apls
You are one heck of a master my freind! It is unfortunate about the nightlights but I agree with many here and say keep the fancy lighting low and put in places that actually need the lighting. I.e. The entrances?
If only I could get my BAT4max to work...
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Looks ...... great (the best word I could find)
Ah, seeing htis beauty nearing completion is a wonderful sight.
Your work is splendid as always my friend,
And I would not worry to much on the nightlights. putting the entrtance in the spotlights would suffice I think. the building is usualy shut at night no?
Strechnitz
If you want I can have a go at lighting it...I have just installed Max 64bit and it's a damn sight faster, especially on the Core 2 Quad. If you're interested, drop me a PM.
is that westminster abbey?
Quote from: Madeira on September 22, 2007, 06:51:22 AM
is that westminster abbey?
is that a joke? ()what()
well, you know what i'm going to say debussyman, that is jawdropping superamazing :O
Quote from: callagrafx on September 22, 2007, 04:18:47 AM
If you want I can have a go at lighting it...I have just installed Max 64bit and it's a damn sight faster, especially on the Core 2 Quad. If you're interested, drop me a PM.
Woooooooow I want thaaaaaaaaat :'( lol you're lucky !!!
OMG is truly stunning, I think I have just found the burial place of the line of Caledon Kings and Queens (nation that existed before Atlantis)
It will of course have a truly stunning location the work is spectacular, many many congrats &apls &apls &apls
Thank you so much Debussyman ... frankly , since I follow your BAT thread , I've searched for ( and have found ) many pictures of cathedrals and read many things about them ( So thank you too for have attracted me on the subject ! ) . If Nodre-Dame is famous but far to be the most spectacular ....
... your work is truly spectacular !
&apls &apls &apls
&apls &apls &aplsNot enough words for tell you how much is so stunning. :thumbsup:
Testing the nitelites.
I think 3 omnies do the job pretty well. But I'd like to hear oppininons.
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The lites are spot on. :thumbsup:
:'( this makes me cry because it is too beautiful
I think it looks great. It really doesn't need any other lighting. Great job.
---Gaston
Debussyman, your cathedrale is just awsome. &apls.
You ask if something better should have been done. That's hard to answer because I'm unable to build anything You have both the skill and the tast.
But I agree with Antoine, until now, everything you have made on this BAT is perfect, so why stopping 1 meter before the finish line ? If you have the feeling that something else should be done on the nightlights (and if you PC let you do it), well, do it my friend !! Your choice will be mine :thumbsup:.
The only thing I can do is showing some nightlight picture of the RL Notre-Dame :
"is that westminster abbey?" :D :D :D :D :D :D :D ::)
I must admite that I like that kind of English humor!!!
BTW, Debussyman, do you have an idea of the lot size ? I must do some terraforming on my Ile de la Cité.
Well, if you just take the one in front and move it a couple of pixles to the... No, seriously, you have done enough - It looks pretty darn cathedralish to me! :thumbsup: &apls
I redered it with the current night scheme (4 hours, not too much, but might be bordering memory runouts) so I've decided to stick with it.
The lot is 4x10, so you can place it in any setting you want. Plain landmark (as happened with the Mexico City Cathedral, I couldn't imagine what requirements would one need for such reward). And now aviable at the LEX.
Works for me....looks stunning :thumbsup:
Excellent finally !!! And did you use google earth for the roof ?
That looks fabulous Debussy, truly stunning....
I do like the night lighting, I would have liked some lights on the central spire, but that is not a big thing. I shall be placing this in the Atlantan Imperial Quarter, (under-construction as I type), it will look fantastic and will suit perfectly. You have given Atlantis the burial place of the Kings and Queens that ruled the great nation of Caledon, before it fell and Atlantis was thus born......anyway.................FABULOUS &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls
MUCHAS GRACIAS DebussyMan!!!! &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls.
I need new words...but there's not!
you deserve a pat on the back for making such a good recreation of Notre Dame.
Make that two ;D
It's been a while since my last comment here ... ::)
Amigo, again a master piece &apls . Un placer para la vista :thumbsup:
Please add an english translation jeronij
joke ;) ;D
:o I have never been soooo impressed by anything....
Makes me wanna start with BAt again. &apls
Would you be willing to share roof and wall textures?
Am I seeing correctly that one of the greatest legends with the BAT tool just made his first post here on Devotion?
OH YES I HAVE!
Welcome to Devotion Xannepan. Its great to see you are still interested in the SC4 community and we all would love to see you take up the BAT tool again ...
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Quote from: xannepan on September 29, 2007, 05:41:09 AM
Makes me wanna start with BAt again.
And that makes ME very happy dude!
Quote from: FromTheAshes on September 29, 2007, 06:10:09 AM
And that makes ME very happy dude!
wow! me too :o welcome xannepan :thumbsup:
Wow, what an hounour!
Of course I'd be willing to share with you anything you wish.
You can find the wall texture here:
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=322.220 (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=322.220)
Edit: here's the roof texture as well:
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And I hope to see some new buildings from you :)
Great to see you around here xannepan :thumbsup:
It would be really great for the community to see some new BATs from your gifted hands ::) ;)
New Cathédrale in the making, I think it's a pretty easy guess...
(North tower and central portade are dummies)
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WOW Debussyman that is stunnning catherdal and welcome back to the community Xannepan.... I can only resound whats been said please bat again :)
Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Chartres?! ??? :o Am I correct?! Do I get a prize?! :D
God Debussyman, when will this stop? The Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Chartres has been a personal favourite of mine since it was included in SC3K Unlimited and I have been waiting for it for SC4 ever since its release.
Will it come with the custom query sound that it had in SC3K? $%Grinno$%
Oh I am so looking forward to this!! :thumbsup:
&apls &apls
EDIT: Debussyman, do you have this? -> Click! (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/19/ChartresWestEndDB407.jpg) A huge sketch of the West End (front?).
Indeed, that must be the Chartres Cathedral. I look forward to it already :thumbsup:
Strechnitz
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW debussyman !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHARTRES ???? what a project !!!!!!!! good luke for it, so cool !!!!!
I feel more and more religious because of all those fantastic models you donate to the community. Debussyman is a Cathedral of a modeler!
Yesssssssssssssssssss!!!!
Always good news to see your next project! You are THE MAN! :thumbsup: &apls :thumbsup: &apls
Quote from: Serkanner on September 30, 2007, 03:21:31 AM
I feel more and more religious because of all those fantastic models you donate to the community. Debussyman is a Cathedral of a modeler!
same here! :D
chartres is a beautiful church and i'm sure your version will be even better than the real one, good luck with your project!
The master of churches strikes again - my jaw drops EVERY time I see your work my friend. Awesome stuff
And now Chartres ? :shocked2: :o
YAYNESS another fabulous cathedral....... &apls &apls &apls &apls
Now what to use this one for............
What wonderful work thus far, so pleased you are still contributing to ensuring we all have beautiful real-world buildings to grace our cities. I'll also die if Xannepan begins to release more fantastic buildings, they are such a delight to use in my cities. :satisfied:
Oh my god!!!lol!Thank you a lot debussy!!!My cathedral!!!!!! &hlp :thumbsup: If you need pictures no problem!!!I m here!!! :thumbsup: &hlp Im so excited!!!! ;) :) ;D ()stsfd() i stop...lol
Hi folks,
amazing work on Notre-Dame! Congratulations, Debussyman!
By the way, I'va had some news from Porkissimo: he has got a rendering issue on one of his new bats but it should'nt be long now ::)
"I'va had some news from Porkissimo: he has got a rendering issue on one of his new bats but it should'nt be long now". Everyone working in the construction knows that there's always delays :P!!!
BTW, this is the first time I've seen a BATer promising a delivery time. YEEEEEPEEEEE for Porki !!! &apls and for Debussyman, of course :thumbsup:.
that's very good news Une_ame, i'll be looking forward to getting my hands on those and putting these in my cities, next to debussyman's excellent churches of course :thumbsup:
Indeed, it is the Cathedral of Chartres.
To all of those who guessed correctly, I've placed a statue with your face on the west portal as a reward ;)
Here's a little update. Been playing around with th textures. I liked this tone, but maybe it is too dark, let me know what you think.
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I like the stone, I would have went a little darker, to show age, it looks pretty new, well from that distance anyway.
It's looking very well indeed, fantastic work. &apls
Quote from: DebussyMan on October 14, 2007, 11:57:29 AM
To all of those who guessed correctly, I've placed a statue with your face on the west portal as a reward ;)
That is so cool, I only wish we could see that in-game.
Great work as ever DB, I can't wait to get this beauty in-game.
Fred
Texture's working for me :thumbsup:
Looks great! Can I be a gargoyle?? ;D
Waoooooooow!!!!!!I like!!!! &apls It's very hard work and you are very strong!!! :thumbsup: ;)
I think the stone looks great as it is! :thumbsup:
It's an incredible work you are making debussyman ! You're the king for cathedrals &apls
a wonderfull progress on the cathedral Debussyman. I believe that the stonetexture is just right for the building. I would not change it into a darker or lighter version. this texture emphasises the sheer age of the reverend building. At least in my opinion ;D
I look forward to its progress.
Strechnitz.
It's beautiful. :)
Thanks all!
Here's a small update. Started working on the flamboyant north tower.
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thats extremely detailed... excellent work amigo :thumbsup: &apls &apls
This is like being on-site in the 12th century, following the construction live! :thumbsup:
OMG!It's incredible!!!It's the same!!!!!I love!!Thanks! :thumbsup: &apls
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wow
that truly is a magnificent recreation &apls
Good luck with the rest of the cathedral.
Strech.
Superb work has usual, Debussyman !!!! Can't wait to see the others parts of this church !!! Keep going :thumbsup:.
Wow excellent progress !!! But we can see on the real photo that the cathedral is more "white" no ?
I'm always amazed by the level of detail that you put into your work. This one is shaping up to be another masterpiece.
The real one is whiter, perhaps, but I like the gray look. It gives it the look of fine age and looks fantastic! :satisfied:
Thanks all. The texture is indeed darker on purpose, so it doesn't look that "new", given that the renderer usually makes textures look brighter than they really are.
Here's another update. Slow but safe, the nave, we don't want it to happen like Beauvais. ;)
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I don't know how you do it, I don't know what exactly you do either, but I do know that whatever you do, it's amazing! :shocked2:
Great job thus far!!! &apls &apls &apls
Quote from: DebussyMan on October 27, 2007, 10:42:45 AM
Slow but safe, the nave, we don't want it to happen like Beauvais. ;)
Hey , Debussyman , d'you think everybody is a cathedral expert ? Cathedral of Beauvais ... hmm ...
Never achieved . Two collapses , in 1284 & 1573 ... the highest Gothic core of the world ... 72,5 meters . I didn't have the occasion/chance to visit it ... maybe the most impressive considering that it would have been one of the most vaste building ( in terms of volume for a single room) of the world .
The place is saved in my MD for cathedral of Chartres ... but I have to admit that an unfinished cathedral would have a particular flavor ..... ::)
I don't dare to hope this is your next project .
Breathtaking work on Chartres' one ... as always .
&apls &apls &apls
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It's wonderful!!!Very good job!!!
Debussyman, you need picturs for roof's texture? I can take picture if you want....
Quote from: DebussyMan on October 27, 2007, 10:42:45 AM
Thanks all. The texture is indeed darker on purpose, so it doesn't look that "new", given that the renderer usually makes textures look brighter than they really are.
Here's another update. Slow but safe, the nave, we don't want it to happen like Beauvais. ;)
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No importance because, the cathedral, it's in restoration! :thumbsup:
A little details for you ( it's so difficult, i know... :))
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source: users.skynet.be
and roof's texture:
I found this picture on google....
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http://k53.pbase.com/o4/83/550183/1/65574990.1nbcZJBD.lagargouillesurletoit.JPG
sorry the mark don't work!
source: pbase.com
See you ! ;) :thumbsup:
Thanks to Badsim and Adept2rock for the historical lesson and the nice pics of Chartres (wow :o!!)
Of course, thanks to Debussyman for the job on this new (well, in a way) cathedral :).
this again is going to be beautiful no doubt
keep up the great work!
Debussyman i sent you a message with pics... ;)
Thanks all
Badsim: I don't think I'll make beauvais, it is too much work to never see it complete. Though, maybe someday I could experiment with it.
Anyways, here's another small update. The nave now with textures, and I've started the transept.
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Debussyman, I like your "small" update ! :D!! The roof, the rear and both sides !!! That's awsome too me !!
Muchas gracias Amigo !
That is really looking great! I too can't wait for this beauty! &apls &apls I have no further suggestions. %wrd
Woareles!! ;D excelente trabajo como siempre, ya haz unas de tu rancho de aquí México...
Puede hacer la catedral de Guadalajara, o la de Zacatecas (mejor que la mía)
o siquiera la de San Miguel Allende que tiene muchos detalles, jeje
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Cuídate ;)
Woaw!!!!!!!It's very beautiful!It's incroyable!.... :thumbsup: Thanks ou very much debussyman! ;)
Thanks all.
Heblem: Ya les llegará su turno a las iglesias latinas... ::)
For now here's an update of the south transept. Just missing the statues that will be placed the last.
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Wow! :shocked2: That looks, so, so, real and gorgeous! :shocked2:
&apls &apls &apls
This is just awesome, maybe better than your Notre Dame $%Grinno$%
Quote from: Bengt on November 03, 2007, 08:18:26 AM
This is just awesome, maybe better than your Notre Dame $%Grinno$%
I think so too, and besides, I think the Notre Dame de Paris is overrated and over-publicised, I've always admired Chartres Cathedral more. :P And Debussyman is doing a superb job at recreating it! I am still in awe. ;)
I still remember when I went up the spire of the Chartres Cathedral in 1998, it was very rainy that day, fun trip though.
Soon I'll be able to add a perfect representation of that huge impressive Cathedral in game ;D
Amazing! (as if that's any surprise)
JB
Quote from: M4346 on November 03, 2007, 08:37:10 AM
I think so too, and besides, I think the Notre Dame de Paris is overrated and over-publicised, I've always admired Chartres Cathedral more. :P And Debussyman is doing a superb job at recreating it! I am still in awe. ;)
Yeah!!Me too.... ;) I thinks la cathedrale de Chartres its more gorgeaous than Notre Dame de Paris, but its my opinion, because i think, Notre Dame, it's similar than other cathedrals like Amiens or Reims! ;)
"..I think the Notre Dame de Paris is overrated and over-publicised.."
Well %confuso, well, let me give you my opinion :
- 1st/ Notre-Dame has a location. I mean, Chartres or the others cathedrals cities may be very nice but ND is in the heart of the "Ville Lumière", close to everything that counts (don't ask me to make a list).
- 2nd/ Notre-Dame has an history. The History of western Europ since the middle-age and even before (since archeologists have found under the cathedral, the remains of a church that has been built around the yr 800 - Charlemagne - and even before some Romans ruins) , the 100 years war %BUd%, the Revolution, Napoléon, etc. I don't even wanna talk about Victor Hugo's novel.
Notre-Dame de Paris is not only a magnificent church, it's much more, it's a legend :wings:, it's the symbol of our civilisation.
Debussy you are the better BATer I have ever seen &apls
Awesome work &apls
Nice roof-texture, very well done.
Well, in my opinion, Notre-Dame de Chartres and Notre-Dame de Paris are hardly comparable. Notre Dame de Paris is mainly a romantic building, with lots of history and mystery to it, which makes it a very interesting site, plus it is a very beautyful and magnificent building. Notre Dame de Chartres on the other hand, is sooo medieval, undesacrated by the romance as ND de Paris was, makes it a magical and awe-ispiring building, with perfect proportions, that takes you directly to the middle ages and makes you humble before the presence of God.
Anywho... here's another update. Almost complete, just missing the absidal chapels, some changes to the north transept (the rose isn't yet ready, in pic it can't be seen) and some other minor details like the statues, etc...
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I am too afraid to comment lest I mar and desecrate the purity of this recreation. :P
It is truly beautiful. :-[
Muy bonito :thumbsup: mis felicitaciones &apls
You work fast! It is looking as inspiring as the RL version!
I thought I'd enlighten those of you who are not familiar with the Chartres Cathedral as it appeared in SC3K(U)...
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I rest my case. :P Debussyman is finally doing this beauty justice. &apls &apls
Very good and you work fast with class! :thumbsup: Yeah, the little part missing backside the cathedral with brown roof...And if you want i can take pictures of the "arc ange" ( statue) in backside... ;)
WOW Debussyman - this is high standard quality again. Ámazing how you do that.... &apls
&apls
No word
Well, Chartres is (almost) complete. It is just missing a correct rendering of the night time (I keep getting errors ()sad() ). So it might be uploaded any time soon.
Meanwhile, here's another Cathedral for you to guess. Might not be as easy as the previous, since this time I'm starting by the choir. (hint: might be relased on Jan 6, in time for it's own festivity ;) )
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Cologne Cathedral ??
If so, amazing and look forward to it greatly.
&bis& everything here is amazing! I still am in awe over Notre Dame and here you go crafting even more masterpeices! thank you ;D &apls &apls &apls
Is it cologne?? :P
Doesn't matter really'.. anything you make is great.
One question: you resize your models in z-direction before rendering? I remember back in the days of the gmax BAT release by Maxis that someone mentioned his resizing to fix propotions in the game 3D-projection. I just can't remember by which ratio, so currently It's just trial and error until it looks good. Not that your BATs need it by the way... but if you do happen to resize I'd like to know by which amount..
Greetings,
Alex
Really impressive.. I'm a fan of every building you recreate. As you seem to be so gifted did you ever think to the "Mont St Michel"?
I just wish you'll continue to amaze us.
Thanks
Mont St Michel! That would be brilliant!!! :satisfied:
"Mont St Michel"
OMG, if it's true :o, it's gonna be a real BIG BIG surprise !!! But it still looks like Cologne Cathedral...
Yeah my friend good news!!!I stand la cathédrale de Chartres with impatience! &apls :thumbsup:
If its le Mont St Miche, its a great project!!! ;)
I don't think its mont sant michel. rather the cathedral of Reims saint Denis.
but I am not sure. %confuso
good luck.
Strechnitz
It would be unfair if I guessed, but I do know that it is an amazing job that you are doing thus far! &apls
-M- are you saying you know an inside secret grrrrrr lol any who DebussyMan that is looking real great!!!
>:D :-X ;D
I say no more. :P
Good luck with the project Debussyman, and I can't wait to see Chartres released! :thumbsup:
Come one guys, it is long enought now, you can tell us what it is :angrymore:!!!!!
I can't wait anymore :(!
At least, give us a clue, the country for example ?
I'm sticking with Cologne, the blue roof texture and dark stone is very very similar to that of Cologne.
whatever church it might be, it's more then welcome in my cities :thumbsup:
It is indeed Cologne. If you had checked the name of the image, you would had known it immediately :P
Xannepan: As a matter of fact, I do not resize these models on the Z axis. However, I do resize other buildings, like W2W, to a 120%.
About Mont St. Michel. I don't think I'd make it, too few resources to work with. Maye SOMEONE else, with more experience with castles ^^^^ could make it ::)
OMG Xannepan I think you have a new project to start working on, LOL :D
I'm sooooooooooo looking forward to being able to use Cologne, my goodness, so many wonderful new cathedrals to use........how wonderful.
The very best of luck with it. ::)
Cologne is a wonderfull (and big) cathedral to have !
And it's true that Xannepan has (recently) show his skills with a "Mont St Michel" style castle ! :satisfied:!
Ok, today I'm gonna make one last attempt to render it with nightlights. If I still get an error, I'm afraid I'll have to leave it withouth them. Here's a little pic of how it looks:
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very unique nightlights, I'm stunned :o
I am stunned as well. :o :o :o
&apls
Quote from: vester on November 17, 2007, 09:20:43 AM
I am stunned as well. :o :o :o
&apls
What more can I say.
THAT.
IS.
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
&apls :thumbsup: &apls :thumbsup: &apls :thumbsup:
You are incredible, DebussyMan! &apls &apls &apls
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()stsfd() I ;D
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Great news, I was able to render. The temple is already aviable at the LEX.
You are too fast for and too good to us mere mortals! :P
Thank you!! :shocked2:
&apls &apls
I'm glad I bought that new keyboard! , drool + keyboard= nasty
Its beautiful , Thank you! :thumbsup:
it is there OMG wow I'm excited thank you Debussyman for that wonderful addition....
N.B. I just Downloaded that wonderful work of art and the Link's in the readme are not functional at all, its no problem for me as i already have them but for someone who don't that could be a problem - pat
Thank you so much debussy!I've already download it!!In the game, the cathedral looks great!I think i put it in my third great historical city!Thanks a lot and the light night is beautiful! &apls ;) :thumbsup:
Have had to see it ingame first ... at any point of view a masterpiece . The innovative lighting remind me a lot the annual "Lights Festivity" at Lyon on December 07/08/09 ...
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St Jean Cathedral aligned with Fourvières Basilica .
Cathedral of Cologne is something too ! I'm still using Bandito's one , something sentimental as it was among my first downloads ... but with your talent I don't doubt to replace it without sadness , maybe just nostalgia . ;)
Thank you . &apls
Very beautiful picture of that awesome looking cathedral there, DebussyMan!
Fantastic night lighting!
BadSim, this is a colorfull picture of Lyon &apls.
No words - they have all been said before
&apls
Thanks everyone
I'm taking a little break from churches, and started this new project. The Vienna State Opera
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Waow!Great project!!You're crazu! $%Grinno$%
PS: do you receive my PM?? ;)
See you! :thumbsup:
ow! That is one of my long time wishes coming true. Thank you Debussyman for sharing your great talent.
You're an addiction generator , Debussyman , I can only pray to see this fountain of wonders never dried up ... :thumbsup:
&apls &apls &apls
&apls &apls
http://www.simforum.de/showpost.php?p=2896456&postcount=23
First picture. ;)
Thank you all.
Here's todays update. As you can see, I've taken a few licences on the roof, as I think the bright green of the R/L one would draw too much attention, I made it this way. Also, most of the pre 1945 pictures show that it might have had a roof simmilar to this. Would like to hear your opinions.
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Nice!
You always seem to know the right building to do! :satisfied:
*faints*
Yeah, I think you've judged the roof pretty well on this one. :o
A picture that I've taken in October (like you see - it's the back ;) ):
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I prefer the coppery roof of the time from 1955 to now.
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EDIT: The former 5.000 Schilling note:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/5/55/Oesterreichische_Schilling_Scheine_5000_1000_20_Rueckseite_k2.jpg
I gotta start wearing Depends when I visit this thread.Thanx DB it looks awesome now I gotta go change my pants. ;)
absolutely incredible :o
OMG I've been waiting for the Vienna Opera to be created, how truly fantastic.
I love the roof texture you have already applied, but I do think I would also love the copper roof the building now has.
Waow so nice!!!I love!! :thumbsup:
Wow, once more I'm astonished when looking in here. I really like what I see and your interpretation of the roof is well done - indeed the bright green of the real thing would draw way to much attention ingame. Your solution for this fits the overall composition and textures very well. :thumbsup:
Quote from: DebussyMan on November 24, 2007, 02:03:22 AM
I'm taking a little break from churches
I think this is a great idea :thumbsup: I love your new model, I wish I could treat the Max that good =(
I too think you have chosen a good alternative to the green copper roof, if you had not pointed out that this is not the right roof, I would never have noticed.
WOW - taking a break from church was certainly an amazing idea...this building looks so good. Perhaps you should create other non-churchs? Shall I name drop Milan's Union Station? :P
:o :o :o
Can it be possible :o master batter indeed, with Opera house you just made it to "Krio top ten's" second place &apls
wow, one of the most beautiful bats that i ever seen :o
Excelente trabajo Debussy, espero verlo pronto terminado &apls &apls
The roof you choose is OK !!
This building was unknown to me before your post, it's seems to be a very good choice ! :satisfied:!
One month!!!Debussyman i love your last creations!!!Bravo! ;)
One month without updates... that's not right. The least I could do is a little teaser:
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Oh will the teasing ever stop :'(
OMG :o *faints*
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I am drooling!
My keyboard almost shorted out!
You're a genius. &apls
&hlp Versailles? &hlp
OMG it does look like Versailles.
I shall await this release and then demolish my current summer palace and use this. OMG I am about to faint at the thought. Stunning work
And what a tease! ;)
Oh man! It is Versailles :o :o :o WOW!
Beautiful, beautiful, truly beautiful....you just have to keep putting the rest of us to shame, don't you? $%Grinno$% ;D
wow like always I leave this thread speechless. You're such a great BATter :thumbsup: &apls
Oh my god! :o
There goes another keyboard
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Fan-tas-tic !
That's great debussy! Could you also see if some of the parts of the model could also fit as small w2ws? I found out that many of Kwakelaars mansions' wings like the servant wing guard house, and stables could work as w2w, maybe some of yours could also work?
Here's an example of kwakelaar's mansion parts put to different use
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Wow, this really is astonishing!!! &apls &apls &apls
I had no idea, but that is a véry good reason to stay silent for a month. That is truly mindbogglingly beautiful!!
Do you plan to recreate the entire complex? :o
Can I help you with the gardens for this one? If so, I will have to make a new set of garden pieces to fit the grand scale of Versailles.
Hubert
&apls
You do it again.... That courtyard texture is absolute gorgeous :satisfied:
Stop it DebussyMan! How can I possibly answer to this!!! ;)
FANTASTIC! We want more!
Both the Vienna opera and versailles are great!!! How about the Louvre as next big project ;D?
Xannepan,
Well, in a way Debussyman kind of already made the Louvre. :)
The design and layout of the palace is according to my/our wishes but all the facades and corner pavillions are taken directly from the Louvre.
check this link. Listerlunde Palace part 3 (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=978.msg67156#msg67156) on the previous and next page you can see more of his work. :)
Strech.
wonderfull work your doing here &apls
happy new year
What I've seen so far is &apls!! Sorry, no word for it.
Strechnitz, what do you mean when you wrote "all the facades and corner pavillions are taken directly from the Louvre" ? Are you thinking about the new Debussyman creation or about the wonderfull palace of your city ? (maybe both).
BTW, I wish a Very Good and Happy New Year 2008 to everyone here with a lot of new wonderfull creation from Debussyman !!!!
Une_Ame,
I meant the palace in my MD. The Versailles Debussyman is now creating is 100% Versailles as far as I can see. :thumbsup:
That is perfectly amazing &apls &apls &apls
You really need to do the houses of parliament-You would be the only on who could pull it off :thumbsup:
Thank you all ;D
Glenni: I'm planning to make some "satellite" buildings which might work for W2W as you mention.
Strech: Thank you very much for your offer, your abilities will come very handy at the time of the lotting ;), right now I'm doing some research on the parterres, fountains etc. so with the help of dolphin66 who will be helping with the flora props, we could make the gardens as close to the real ones as possible. My intention is to make as much as I'm able of it within the boundaries of SC4 capabilities.
Xannepan: Thanks, as Strech already mentioned, I made many of the louvre pavilions and facades for his Listerlunde Palace. It would be just a matter of rearranging them and making the ones missing, perhaps someday I'll get myself to that...
Jayo: huh... the houses of parliament... I had tought about it before but still haven't made up my mind... perhaps some day... ::)
For now I'll leave you all with two pretty pictures:
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I just died as a result of WOWNESS and beauty overload.
Dear goodness that once finished will be one of the most spectacular BAT's ever created and I shall treasure the use of it.
What a simply marvellous achievement you continue to astound and shock me. &apls &apls &apls
What a glorious little present to mark this new year. :satisfied:
@Hubert I would love to see you work on gardens for the palace, that would a joy to behold indeed. ;)
I need a mop to clean up the drool... The second picture looks like a real picture on a post card. Its just plain stunning.
It's even better than the real one ... &apls
When I visited Versailles at the beginning of August 2007 the weather was quite cold, the sky covered and the right wing was scaffolded:
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Thank you and all the other BATters, who create such high quality buildings, for keeping SC4 alive! :thumbsup:
This looks so awesome!
I am eager to see more! :thumbsup:
:o
&hlp I cant distinguish whats real and whats not anymore!!! &hlp
@ Strechnitz : Thkx a lot for the quick answer.
@ Debussyman : :-X (specialy the last 2 pictures!!).
The last picture :o
one word: fantastic!
:o just perfect
Wonderfull :o just fall of my chair ;DWonderfull
Holy buckets, Debussyman!!! :o Those last two just blew my mind! Great... now I need a new mind... where am I going to find one of those? :D
8)
That is so awesome that I need my sunglasses when looking it.
Thank you all very much...
Tonight I started to work on one of my favourite parts, the Chapelle Royale ;D
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Oh Holy ****!!
That is by far my favorite part of the Palace as well. It is already a sheer beauty!!!!
I soooo love your work on this. &apls &apls
Do my eyes deceive me or have you also modelled the interior? :thumbsup:
you are a god Debussyman ;D
Strech.
OMG :o... how do you do it... how do you model these things so fast... ()what()
xannepan: maybe DebussyMan is just an abbrevation and there are more of them batting under same name. David, Emil, Bill, Urkel, Samantha, Samuel, Yasmin, Matt, Abraham and Norman ;D
"..have you also modelled the interior ?"
I've the feeling that Debussyman think(s) it's way too easy too model only the exterior ! He (they ? :D) has(have :P) done the same thing with ND de Paris.
Next time be prepare to see the "Galerie des Glaces" with the Sun King waltzing in it!
Waow!So beautifu! :o I love, you are the best!!!Thanks! ;) &apls
Chapelle Royale.....wow, you are off to another amazing start.
&apls
Robin :thumbsup:
As it says in Robins sig " What we do for others remains immortal." In years to come we will be able to say that way back when we were privileged to see David, Emil, Bill, Urkel, Samantha, Samuel, Yasmin, Matt, Abraham and Norman create their masterpieces :D way before they became the greatest RL architects Europe had seen for eons as they moved through Europe, transforming the face of Europe as we know it today. ;)
Debussyman this is looking fantastic, with your signature, I just knew it had to come to this sooner or later ;D
This is one of those projects that are too big to even consider for us mere mortal humans, and I am very happy to see one of our batting gods starting this.
You have had that signature for quite some time, How long have you been working on this project? :o
hi debussyman. Quick question; do you model all statues yourself?
I'm working on the bourse de commerce and need to start working on some statues. For gare du nord Porkie helped me out... I'm no that good at statues myself.. So any tips on how to do it would be very appreciated.
Anyway keep up the good work!
dang nabbit, beautiful work their, your texturing and attention to detail are simple stunning.
Xannepan: Actually, the statues are modifications of the basic models Ripptide once made, I believe they're aviable at the BSC board if you're interested.
Awesome! This looks so great! &apls :thumbsup:
Great work DB. You are the detail master. I was hoping that you would not abandon this great project and now I see that you've made much progress on it since I was here last. Can't wait to see what more you have in store.
when will you stop ! Versaille in all its glory ! Btw, how will release it ? mini bat that assembled together made versaille ? BTW it's so awesome ! Thanks for all your works, they're so detailed ! Can't imagnie how many hours it take !!!
"mini bat that assembled together made versaille "
No, I think it's gonna be BIG BATs that assembled together will make Versailles !!
DebussyMan &hlp, any news of your projects (Versailles, Hotel de Crillon) ?
MOD EDIT: Please try not to double-post Une_ame, especially if you're just bumping the topic. - Fred
Hello Debussy!I will want to show you my two pictures with Notre Dame de Chartres, in my city La Réole, when you can see in the topic "Recently Published"
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Really thanks!
Bye! :thumbsup:
That looks great!
Adept,
The last time I went to Chartres, I think I've seen such little houses around N.D. Have you try to reproduce a part of your town in this very nice picture :thumbsup:?
Une ame, i answer you in my topic! ;)
Ah Ah !! I'm gonna check !!
Stunning work &apls
Debussyman, any news (or even a little picture ;D) of your Palace ?
Thank you so much for your last palace!So beautiful!It look like Versailles!When you post Vienna Opera? :thumbsup:
Than you all.
Une_ame: I'm sorry, but I've been very busy lately and haven't had time to make any progress on Versailles ()sad()
Adept2Rock: The Vienna Opera has been almost ready for quite some time, only missing the rear part. I'll try to finish it as soon as I find the time to do so.
On other news, I want to announce that the Votivkirche issue, in which it disappeared at the last zoom, has been kindly fixed by Chrisim, you can get the new version here: http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=753here (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=753)
Debussyman, I'm so glad to read something from you :thumbsup:!!!!! Hope everything's OK ;)!
Versailles hasn't been built in one day, don't apologize and take care.
Hey Debusy!It's a pleasure to read you!Take your time! ;)
Got some time today and continued a BAT I started a while ago. It is based on a now destroyed building in the corner of Friedrichstrasse with Leipziger strasse in Berlin. Still missing quite some detalis. Would love to hear your opinion on the textures, as the only material I have to work with are two Black and white pictures.
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Man...You do some awesome work! This looks great!
Well, I don't know the original one but this one looks nice to me!!
Is it a kind of Departement Store one the 1st floor!!
"Very nice" doesn't really do it justice... but I'm not real sure what else to say. It looks great! Your textures are always amazing... I especially like the shingled roof texture you have on this one. :thumbsup:
JB
Hmm ... the textures look good, but it would be easier to judge them if the windows were ready.
Anyway, one of the best BATters ever will surely find the best solution. ;)
Thank you all :)
This is the final model. Still missing nightlights
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this is the original one:
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Muy bello el edificio!, oye pero no te faltan detalles en las ventanas como los marcos y balcones? me parece ver balcones en la foto real si no estoy seguro.
Saludos ;)
Aquí si me permites usé tu render para especificarte si en verdad van o no balcones...
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Lo digo porque la proporción de las ventanas del 3er y 4to piso son algo grandes, para ser antiguas, generalmente tienen marcos mas anchos, y una base de madera que los soporta, aparte muchas sirven como accesos para los balcones.
Edito: no exactamente tiene que ser así, pero ya es a tu gusto, lo que sugerería son la falta de los balcones ;D
Ah, si, te entiendo. Cuando empecé a hacerlo me ví en el dilema de si lleva o no balcones, pero analizando algunas otras fotos de mayor resolución y de otros angulos (de lo que se alcanza a ver pues no son mucho mejores que la que puse), al parecer esas franjas no son balcones sino parte del mismo marco de la ventana, así que decidí hacerlo como tal (aunque aún me siguen pareciendo ambiguos, tal vez sí los haya ()what() ) Además que los balcones sonaban lógicos desde un principio, pero tal vez porque estoy acostumbrado a los edificios residenciales que usan balcones en todas las ventanas y no como éste que es comercial. En fin, después de mucho darle vueltas, decidí no hacerlos.
mmm, ya veo y si es difícil tomar dicha opción sin buenas imágenes, pero aún así te quedó excelente, sigue así :thumbsup:
that's a wonderfull new building Debussyman! &apls &apls
It is a beauty!
You prove to be just as good with Wall2wall buildings as with cathedrals and palaces! :)
Strech.
I'll use this one for sure. As always, excellent texturing and modelling.
OMG!!!!!!!!It's so wonderful me amigo!It look like an haussmanian bat in Paris!I loooooove! &apls :thumbsup: :o
The windows are already finished? &Thk/(
ooohhh that looks wonderful debussy, really lovely indeed &apls
Yes, it will fit well amonght Haussmanian buildings ;)!!!!
Nice one, will it be a CO$$$ ()what()?
No it is lotted as a CS$$$ and a landmark with CS$$$ jobs. I hope to get the lots to debussyman tomorrow.
TY Barby, nice to see you back :thumbsup:!
That would be a lovely addition in any city! &apls
I look forward to it's completion, it will fit in real nice with all the other W2W lots I've dl'd over the past couple of months. Top notch work debussyman :thumbsup:
Thanks all.
N1_2888: Yes, they are finished, I would had liked to make them a little more interesting, but all the techniques I know for that are either for smaller windows or for bottom floors, otherwise they look cluttered, and due to the strange meshes the round corner left inside the building, I can't make the texture more transparent or it will look very ugly.
Heblem: Estuve investigando más a fondo y encontré una foto bastante buena (lástima que no la tuve desde un principio) en la que se puede apreciar que no son balcones, sino decoraciones de hierro en la parte inferior del marco de la ventana (los cuales yo hice de madera) además de unas lamparillas de las cuales no me había fijado, también me percaté de que las columnas de las fachadas laterales no son redondas sino rectangulares &mmm. Cabe recalcar también que la imagen que pongo es de cuando el edificio era nuevo (1890), como es natural, con el paso del tiempo se le fueron haciendo cambios. Además, mi intención no era copiar el edificio exactamente sino hacer uno "inspirado" en él (me encanta la palabra "inspirado" porque puede significar "copia casi idéntica" o "nada parecido al original" $%Grinno$% ) De cualquier manera, he decidido dejarlo como está.
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Awesome work, I love it. It really catches the feeling of the old Friedrichstadt quarter :thumbsup:
And nevermind about the windows... there's just so much other lovely detail :thumbsup:
Quote from: praiodan on March 18, 2008, 02:47:41 AM
And nevermind about the windows... there's just so much other lovely detail :thumbsup:
I fully agree with Lars. ;)
When I saw the preview just before the pic on March 16th, I thought this looked awesome... little did I know that you still have more work planned! This will adorn many a majestic streetcorner throughout the Sim world!
I thought I would post an image as a thanks to Debussyman for creating a building for me. Based on the Northern Ireland Assembly in Belfast (I'm using it as the Atlantan Imperial Senate).
My deepest thanks to you Debussyman, and indeed I do believe you have created the first ever building from the island of Ireland to grace SC4 :D
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I was wondering where that building came from ;D
Thanks Debussy!Your new bat is on Lex!I love it!And the Irish Assemblee is so beautiful!Good work my friend!What'is your next project?
Emperor Stormont: Glad you're enjoying the BAT, and I have to say I'm really honoured to see it in such a magnificent setting as the one you created :thumbsup:
Here's my current project. The Berliner Dom.
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As usual with the Cathedralizer, :o.....
The level of realism you get in your textures is just outstanding... :o
Debussyman, may I ask you some news from another project that I think you have ()what()?
I 've read one TSC that you have work on the Hôtel de Crillon &hlp, can you tell us more about here ? I'm sure it has the same quality than this Berliner Dom, and IMHO, it's gonna be :thumbsup:!!
Just plain awesome.
Yes, very awesome there! Looks fantastic! :thumbsup:
Very good and nice project!This bat is so beautiful! &apls :thumbsup:
That is............so amazing.
:o
Robin :thumbsup:
I visited Berlin, and took so many pictures of the Berlin Dom only two weeks ago! I was thinking to myself while admiring it "I wish someone would make that for SimCity" ;D I am really looking forward to seeing that magnificent building in game, your work is astounding!
Great work on Stormont too! Any plans to do more Irish buildings? *hint hint* ;)
Amazing as usual!
Lovely start on The Berliner Dom. Way back when Maxis was explaining how to BAT, they were emphatic that work should never be textured until it was completely finished. I'm so glad you weren't around then (or else didn't listen) as I love seeing textures right from the start. :sunny:
Just breath taking Debussy WoW!!!!
WOW!!! The detail alone in the texture is unbelievable.
As for the BAT itself, simply stunning...my goodness...nothing but magnificent :D
&apls WOW! Now that is a stunning bld. Superb work on it!
&hlp You keep us in such a suspense with all the marvellous projects you show to us! &hlp
- Cologne Cathedral (I love the Gothic style!)
- Versailles
- Vienna State Opera
- As I've just read: This hotel from Place de la Concorde
- Berlin Cathedral
Got it all? &Thk/( :D
Keep it up! :thumbsup: I can't stand the waiting time! &cry2 $%Grinno$%
Yes, when we can download Vienna Opera State?
You will be able to download it when it is uploaded. ;D
I am, as ever, in awe of your abilities. The Berliner Dom is one of my Favourites. &apls &apls &apls
Quote from: DebussyMan on March 17, 2008, 09:26:17 PM
Heblem: Estuve investigando más a fondo y encontré una foto bastante buena (lástima que no la tuve desde un principio) en la que se puede apreciar que no son balcones, sino decoraciones de hierro en la parte inferior del marco de la ventana (los cuales yo hice de madera) además de unas lamparillas de las cuales no me había fijado, también me percaté de que las columnas de las fachadas laterales no son redondas sino rectangulares &mmm. Cabe recalcar también que la imagen que pongo es de cuando el edificio era nuevo (1890), como es natural, con el paso del tiempo se le fueron haciendo cambios. Además, mi intención no era copiar el edificio exactamente sino hacer uno "inspirado" en él (me encanta la palabra "inspirado" porque puede significar "copia casi idéntica" o "nada parecido al original" $%Grinno$% ) De cualquier manera, he decidido dejarlo como está.
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Sobre tu post anterior, apenas leo tu comentario acerca del edificio, no puedo quedar mas que acuerdo contigo como dejaste el edificio "inspirado" de este ;) técnicamente fue una copia $%Grinno$%, aparte es difícil basarte de algo que casi es a ciegas, me sorprendes, excelente trabajo &apls
As for your new building "the german one" again as i told you im impressed about the quality and all that details you put on it, somewhat that building its similar to some churches in Mexico :D also can't wait for the new cathedral you're preparing (from the pictures I sent to you) ;D I hope people don't read that last rumor :)
Saludos ;)
A new Cathedral, which one ()what()?????????
:D :D :D :D
OMG Looks Gret the berliner dome &apls &dance &dance &dance &dance
Debussyman, your work is so amazing. I've even been inspired to make my own buildings for Sc4. ;D
I don't get your textures - how are they so amazing? Did you make them yourself? Because I can never recreate any textures since they always turn out like poo. &mmm
Anyways, I hope you continue making awesome cathedrals. :thumbsup:
I was just wondering how this is progressing?
So wait what BAT will probaly be released first and when? Oh and anxiously waiting for the Hotel, Versailes, and the Louvre
Debussyman, I have to commend you on your efforts and thank you for all you have done and introduced to SC4 over the years. Random? Perhaps... but looking at what you're currently busy with and what you have bestowed upon us on the past, I realise that you have made it possible for me to experience so many buildings that I will probably not get to see anytime soon, and I love it!
It's great plopping these buildings and I sometimes just sit and stare at the scene, appreciating the immensity and beauty of your work!
Thank you very much, and please do keep up the good work!
Looking especially forward to the Berliner Dom and the Louvre! :thumbsup:
&apls &apls &apls
Quote from: M4346 on May 11, 2008, 04:45:16 AM
Debussyman, I have to commend you on your efforts and thank you for all you have done and introduced to SC4 over the years. Random? Perhaps... but looking at what you're currently busy with and what you have bestowed upon us on the past, I realise that you have made it possible for me to experience so many buildings that I will probably not get to see anytime soon, and I love it!
It's great plopping these buildings and I sometimes just sit and stare at the scene, appreciating the immensity and beauty of your work!
Thank you very much, and please do keep up the good work!
Looking especially forward to the Berliner Dom and the Louvre! :thumbsup:
&apls &apls &apls
I totally agree! You've portrayed certain pieces of architecture in a 3D type way that's so much better than seeing pictures! Amazing work!
Thanks for all the comments.
Sorry for the lack of updates but I've been very busy lately and haven't found any time to finish my projects.
Today finally got a free afternoon and decided to start a project that's been in my mind for quite some time, The Reichstag at Berlin. Also, don't worry about the other projects, my vacation is about begin so I'll have plenty of time to finish those and even some more $%Grinno$%
Here's what I've done today, still in a very early stage though.
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Well, you know what we're all going to say :P
&apls
Will this be with the new glass dome or the original version??
Either way it will look stunning as always &apls
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Well, you know what we're all going to say :P
Or what we are going to
do? ;D
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He is back!!!
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Great and intriguing project... what dome would it be? I would personally go for the Foster's one - but that might be more challenging, though more (IMHO) interesting result.
May I ask, do you model the large blocks at the "podium" of the building? or is it sort of displacement?
Pouah, that's awefull :bomb:!! How can you &sly!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :D, just kidding, but since I don't find the words, I think I will say that I'm speechless :thumbsup:!
That looks really good! I want it already :)
This is a VAST improvement over the Maxis one. I am glad you are back and ready to BAT. It will be a great summer thanks to you! ;D
Quote from: Schulmanator on June 05, 2008, 04:34:22 PM
This is a VAST improvement over the Maxis one.
Do you refer to the Reichstag building? ??? As far as I know there is no Maxis version of it, just an older quite nice BAT (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=3587) made by "erdmoebel" ...
Yeah!You are here!! :P So cool to look after your creations!! ;) So beautiful! ;)
QuoteGreat and intriguing project... what dome would it be? I would personally go for the Foster's one - but that might be more challenging, though more (IMHO) interesting result.
I would actually like the original. Either would look fantastic and look stunning, but the original just looks amazing. Shame it was lost.
Thank you for the comments. :)
I don't have any updates for today, but I'll try to render a quick one tomorrow.
Given that erdmoebel has already made the modern version, I decided to go for the old one. I share Emperor Stormont's view as well, the original design was more impressive than the current one, though Norman did a great and very symbolic job with the joining the old and the new elements.
SimFox: thanks for your comment, the bricks of the podium were made with a bump map.
Wonderful to have you back Debussyman ;D
And a lovely new project. It is great to see that you'll be making the original building. The original dome was heralded as a masterpiece of engineering in the 1890's. mind you it was made of steel and glass and not of cast iron as many people tend to think.
Do you have sufficient material to work with Debussyman? I have a nice picture of the pre-war building if you like to have it. and also just as an extra, I can send you pictures of some of the designs that did not make it in the architecture contest for the reichstag in 1882. some designs are simply stunning! so please let me know :)
Strech.
Wikipedia is your friend... :P
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Pity about not doing the Foster dome though... but I'm more than happy either which way! ;D
OMG Hubert is alive :thumbsup:
Anyway, I love your re-creating the original, it does looks absolutely stunning.
A little half update $%Grinno$% (still missing many details)
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Strech: Thanks, I've got plenty of material, but one can never have too many pictures, so bring them on :P
I've seen a couple of other designs. I specially liked Scott's neogothic one, but it's waay too complicated, I'd rather make Viennas Rathaus instead.
OMG I absolutely love it. The details in that small section are fabulous and I can't wait to see further progression. Lovely work &apls
(I'm already starting to think of what to use it for lol :satisfied: )
Quote from: DebussyMan on June 10, 2008, 03:54:59 PM
A little half update $%Grinno$% (still missing many details)
--- picture of a breathtakingly detailed BAT :o ---
(...) , I'd rather make Viennas Rathaus instead.
Do you? ;D A photo that I've taken on May, 21st:
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Little but so nice!!! &apls :thumbsup:
That is a very nice pic. the facade is coming along nicely :thumbsup: I'll send them to you soon, I don't have them on this computer.
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Do you? ;D A photo that I've taken on May, 21st:
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Debussy does not mean the actual reichstag in this comparison, but if he had to choose between the Wiener Rathaus and the reichstag design from sir John Gilbert Scot. And I agree with Debussy for choosing the Rathaus over Scots building ;D For I am very fond of Gothic, but Scots design is a little excessive, even for my taste :D just see the pic below. ;)
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My favorite design that did not make it in the 1872 architectural contest is the one from Ludwig Bohnstedt. see below. Although this pic does not do it fully justice I'm afraid.
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but as you all know Paul Wallot won the contest and his design was built... eventually. He had to make several changes in his design to please some fussy jurymembers. The design that won is the one below. which is quite different from what was built in the end in 1883. can you spot the differences? ;D
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Strech.
I would die to see Scots building BAT'ed, completely excessive and grandiose and well perfect for Atlantis :D
Three drafts of the Viennese City Hall which weren't realized:
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(Just a photo - I don't have access to our scanner now. Click to enlarge.)
The 1st one is soooo close to the Paris "Hotel de Ville" :o!!!
No surprise, the 2 architects (Lambert and Chadron) come from Paris :P.
The jury voted against the first draft because it considered the building as too low. Maybe it also wanted more variety at the Ringstraße, which is dominated by similar-looking (i.e. Renaissance-styled) buildings (Opera, University, Museum of Art History, Museum of Natural History, ...) So Friedrich Schmidt's kind of worthy Gothic city hall was built ... (I would have preferred a more daring building. ::) )
N1_2888: those pics are quite interesting, hadn't seen them before ;)
Here's another little update:
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That is astonishing DebussyMan :thumbsup: The detail is outstanding $%Grinno$%
Oh wow!
That is not just a little update, that is a big update. I love the way this building turns out.
It is simply stunning.
Good luck with the completion of this fine BAT debussy :)
Strech.
Stunning.
Absolutely fabulous. &apls &apls &apls
I also decided what to use the building for :)
:o ... &apls That is just mind blowing. I'm at a complete loss for words.
When Debussyman is not doing Cathedrales, he is doing miracles ::)!!!
Is there a difference between the two? :D
Strech.
Wow!Many details!I love, so amazing! &apls
This is a really beautiful project, DebussyMan. That pediment is incredible!
Wow. I like it. The stone texture is very rich and that's a just fabulous main entrance. Looking forward to seeing more.
QuoteIs there a difference between the two?
Obviously, NO :satisfied:.
Thanks all!
Been working on the Dom's Kuppel lately. So far I've only got some of the base done:
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Wow... :thumbsup: Every time I come in here you continue to amaze me more.
Very nice start! Cannot wait to see more :thumbsup:
Same here, modeling looks really good!
So nice preview!Very detailled! :thumbsup: &apls
danke thx dziękuję merci for all DEBUSSYMAN
Really fantastic work on your buildings there, DebussyMan!
Your work is absolutely amazing!
As a fan of the old Berlin I am very happy that you've decided to model the old versions of the Berliner Dom and the Reichstag what they looked like before WW2.
If you need any help via real life pics I can help you since the back side of the Reichstag isn't really too famous.
Keep it up! : )
I just like your work on classic buildings, excellent work! :thumbsup: (por cierto estoy ansioso por ver cierta catedral que harás ;D)
Here's another W2W from old Berlin. Based on the now destroyed "Haus Faber", built by the writing instruments magnate Lothar von Faber and was located on the corner of Friedrichstrasse with Französische strasse.
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It looks phenomenal. :)
What do you think about using more advanced lighting? If you want to I can send you my light rig. All of your fantastic modeling would look even better with it, imo.
Looks great! The glass is a little on the plain side but the rest compensates for it quiet well. I really like the turret and corner entrance. The details on this are really well done.
Perfecto como siempre, solo te sugerería que el decorado de la puerta principal retrocedelo un poco (IMO), porque se ve muy afuera, por lo demás está perfecto :thumbsup:
Keep on ;)
Jason: I've been playing around with mental ray rendering and ideed, they look much better than scanline, but personally, I don't think they fit in well with the rest of the buildings in-game, they stick out too much, specially if used in a W2W.
Spa: you're right about the windows, but I never seem to get them right, perhaps I'll rework the texture &mmm
Heblem: ¿te refieres sólo al pórtico o a todo incluyendo la torreta? en cualquier caso, utilicé los planos originales de Grisebach para realizarlo, así que todo (debe) estar exactamente en su lugar. Tal vez parezca muy alejado por el ángulo en el que se ve en SC4. ;)
Solo el pórtico (no le encontraba el nombre ;D) aunque tengas el plano recuerda que ciertamente las proporciones del SC4 son diferentes, a ciertos casos es de estimar para que quede lo mas real posible... ;)
that is an excuisite cornerbuilding Debussy &apls
And a nice chane of style too. this will fit wonderfully with the existing W2W buildings.a great addition!
What will you be surprising us with next? :)
Strech.
Geez you have no limit :D Absolutely wonderfull &apls &apls &apls You rock :thumbsup:
So wonderful this bat!!!! :thumbsup:You love german architecture! ;)
The Dom's cimborium is ready, now I've got to work on the cupula.
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Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude... *picks jaw up*
I think you might already have seen this smily: ;D
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I think I got something in my eyes ???
No nothing there
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That is just .... ... awesome.
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&apls &apls &apls &apls
awesome!!!
inexplicable :thumbsup: &apls &apls
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious! &apls
Are you serious!!????
How can you make it that good!!??
&apls
OMG!!!Buen trabajo amigo!!!Gracias!! &apls :thumbsup:
OMG DIES!!!!! :satisfied:
Looks absolutely fabulous debussy....fabulous &apls &apls &apls
Debussy,
I concurr with all the opinions above ;D :D :thumbsup:
The facade is fabuliscious indeed. I espescially want to compliment you on the frescoe above the main entrance. excuisite. :thumbsup:
Good luck with the Cupola ;)
Strech.
:thumbsup: That's looking really really awesome!!!!!! Fantastic work on it!!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
- :o &hlp &hlp &hlp &hlp &hlp &hlp &hlp &hlp &hlp-
Little boring that you can do it so good ;D Nan That`s only FANTASTIC Thanks so much &apls &apls &apls
This truly must be the most luscious BAT thread in SimCitydom! How many keyboards has it ruined with copious drool?
You are going to have the pair the Dom now with the Altes Museum, so we can all wall out our own Lustgartens. We can only wistful imagine what old Berlin architecturally would look like today were it not for its turbulently melodramatic modern history, but your BATs are giving us a great taste.
Thanks all!
Odainsaker: The Altes Museum is definately on my to-do list :)
Here's a little update on the south side.
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Woah!! That is very impressive!!
very nice ;)
Truly awesome!
And a stunning update it is :thumbsup:
I love how te stones get darker when you go up. a very realistic portrayal of airpolution &apls
great work!
Strech.
I must say, it's unbelievable! The quality of these BATs of yours is amazing and i sure am jalous of your skills. Thank you for this extraordinary contribution! &apls
A true delight! ()stsfd()
oh my god, that´s real stunning work!
the dome looks perfect form what i can see
so you gonna make the Altes Museum aswell? What about batting all the other buildings from the Berlin Museums Insel, too?^^
it would go very well with my city palace ;)
i like very much the Bode Museum and the old national galery...
here are pics of these:
Bode Museum (http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/11/27/arts/Bode1650.jpg)
Alte Nationalgalerie (http://www.berlin.de/orte/museum/alte-nationalgalerie/01_AlteNationalgalerie_420_331.jpg)
greets to mexico!
like this [/url]http://www.egyptian-museum-berlin.com/bild.php?bildname=f_3d_insel_02.jpg&PHPSESSID=b5c8b2a46750b20c1efc10893830ddfd
sorry ()stsfd() http://www.egyptian-museum-berlin.com/bild.php?bildname=f_3d_insel_02.jpg&PHPSESSID=b5c8b2a46750b20c1efc10893830ddfd
Thanks for your comments. ;D
aNdi: thank you for the links, I've also tought about making the Nationalgalerie, but the Bode seems rather implausible, because of it's shape and the integration it has with the canals.
Haven't advanced much, but here's a little perspective I tought you might enjoy:
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You gotta stop teasing us $%Grinno$%
These are awesome :thumbsup:
Omigods! Is it a photograph?...it must be a photograph! The most stunningly modelled BAT photograph yet seen!
I'm so used to thinking of the Berliner Dom still showing postwar bomb damage and left trapped on the communist East side next to the ghastly Palast der Republik that it is still amazing to know it is now fully restored and reopened in a reunited Germany, its neighboring monstrosity is being replaced by a new Stadtschloss, and that a beautiful BAT is well on its way to gracing our undeserving simcities.
DebussyMan has a thing for awesome photographs &apls
I can't really say much in critique to your work so far freind but nightlighting will be interesting to say the least... I look forward to seeing that.
Neal.
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That looks incredible. &apls
Robin :thumbsup:
That's what happen to me each time I come here and see new pics from Debussyman :
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For Odainsaker, I understand that you may not like it, but the Palast der Republik was not a monstrosity at all. I like this kind of architecture, plus it was a very important cultural and meeting place for the est-berliners.
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Oh, I so agree with all the praie above!!! &apls &apls &apls
dear Debussy, you are a star! :thumbsup:
Strech.
I think it miss some detail ... $%Grinno$% Nan just kidding. ;D It`s , it`s i don`t know what to said , so i shut up myself and just &apls &apls &apls
This is very nice. I realy can't wait until this church is all finnished. Thanks. $%Grinno$%
Carlos...
...WOW, seriously, just...
...WOW.
It really is a shame that the game won't show all of this detail.
Fred
I'm sitting here with half of the BSC Europe Contingent who have fainted at that last picture. We are very jealous of your textures.
AAAAAHHHH!!! The realism! I'm going to faint! &apls &apls &apls &apls
ohhh my dear goodness DebussyMan that is stunning work!!! Thats some excellent photoshopping there of the Cathedral to give it the black background.. *someone taps pat on the shoulder* What that aint photoshopped that is a BAT :shocked2: I soo can't wait to see that ingame!!!
Great Job Debussyman &apls
The details are really well reproduced :thumbsup:
danke for Paris Eglise de L'Assomption &apls
A while back, I went looking through the picture competition and I can't help but ask where did you find the rialto bridge? ()what()
P.S. Diky for the Eglise de L'Assomption &apls &apls
Hello Debussyman !
I hope you spent good time during your trip in Europe !
Did France make you a friendly welcome ?
I hope you take a lot of pictures and some ideas for batting !
I wish you the best,
Yanyan
Hellllllooooooooo. Is any one here? Are there any more updates? LOL. $%Grinno$%
As I have understood it, he have started studying. So don't expect any updates coming in the high a rate.
Hello Debussyman,
Like everybody here, I hope that you make a pleasent trip in Europe and that you've been capable to make a lot of nice pics, I can' t wait to see the consequences of this in my cities ::)!
Hello all, sorry for the lack of updades, but, as Vester said, I just got back to school so I haven't had much free time.
serebii666: I made the bridge specially for that pic, but it is now lost.
Yanyan and Une_ame: thanks, I had a great time in my trip, loved everything. I also brought some "souvenirs" for you all, but I haven't "unpacked" them yet ;)
Finally, here's the finished Berliner Dom. Only missing a nice lot underneath her:
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Debussyman! Wow! This is a great pieces of art! Very detailed, and VERY European! :thumbsup:
Excelente trabajo! :thumbsup: espero que el lot sea igual de bueno ;D
Wow that is amazing. :thumbsup: The detail is outstanding.
@ Hôtel de Crillon, Versailles and Cologne Cathedral:
I've experienced that requests can do more harm than good [ &mmm ], so take as much time as you have and you want in order to finish them. Whenever they will be released, I will be extremely happy. :)
@ Berlin Cathedral:
:o This BAT is turning me into a fan of baroque churches. :D
&apls &apls &apls
that is incredible &apls &apls fantastic work :thumbsup:
Quote from: Heblem on September 22, 2008, 07:14:39 PM
Excelente trabajo! :thumbsup: espero que el lot sea igual de bueno ;D
psssst....En Inglés, por favor $%Grinno$% :thumbsup:
As usual, when I'm in front of a new creation coming from Debussyman, my reaction is always like this &Thk/(.......
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That is brilliant! &apls &apls &apls &apls
Beside the obvious (it's a marvelous building, extremely nice details, etc.) I think that is probably the best roof texture I have ever seen on a BAT. :thumbsup:
Quote from: callagrafx on September 23, 2008, 12:25:49 AM
psssst....En Inglés, por favor $%Grinno$% :thumbsup:
Of course!
Excellent work, I hope the lot to be a good one as the bat ;D
That is wonderful! I am so delighted to see it in finished form. :thumbsup:
&apls &apls &aplsJust wonderfull. A piece of art again. :thumbsup:
A stunning model. That's going to look fantastic sat at the heart of an old W2W district.
That looks brilliant, the model is extraordinarily detailed. I can't wait to use it
This would go perfectly in any European City centre.
WOW!!! Just WOW!!! You never seem to disapoint. I can't wait for this to be ready for download. I am so excited. &hlp $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
oooh my wow that is just stunning there Debussyman!!!
This is dedicated to DebussyMan for all of the wonderful BAT's he has created and the resent release of the Berlin Cathedrial.
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Quote from: mmorales2 on September 26, 2008, 08:30:58 AM
This is dedicated to DebussyMan for all of the wonderful BAT's he has created and the resent release of the Berlin Cathedrial.
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Great showcase of a great BAT! It deserves to have a place of prominence just like it is here!!
A super bat as well Debussyman, great work
Thanks everyone.
@mmorales2: thanks a lot, I love seeing how people use my creations, and your setting looks stunning :thumbsup:
@N1_2888: L'Hotel de Crillon and Versailles will hopefully be finished in the months to come, I just have to retrieve some lost textures; But I'm afraid the Cologne Cathedral will take a little longer, the more I research on it the more complicated to make it looks.
Meanwhile, here's another church in the making, try to guess which one is it now ;)
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Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser_Wilhelm_Memorial_Church): ()stsfd() ;D
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Quote...L'Hotel de Crillon and Versailles will hopefully be finished in the months to come....
Now, I know I' m gonna have a good day, Gracias Debussyman! ;)
N1, that was fast :thumbsup:!
waow :o awesome start :thumbsup: &apls
Yes! Die Gedächtniskirche in Berlin! :thumbsup: But I see it is the pre-war version, am I correct?
Quote from: M4346 on September 30, 2008, 04:00:32 AM
Yes! Die Gedächtniskirche in Berlin! :thumbsup: But I see it is the pre-war version, am I correct?
Yes, it is. I knew I recognize the octagonal tower from somewhere, but I couldn't put my finger on it when I saw the preview. ;) But with N1_2888's pic, it makes perfect sense.
Primero te mando muchos saludos a mi querido mexico!
Tienes un talento increible! Me faltan las palabras! Cada vez veo tus proyectos como un adicto que quiere mas y mas y mas :D
de todos modos te va a soprender que un aleman te hace esa pregunta, pero escuche que estas trabajando tambien en le Palacio de Bellas Artes? Si es verdad te agradecia si me ensenias un poquito preview ;D. Eres el mero mero!!
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At first i send you a lot of greetings to my beloved mexico!
You have an incredible talent! I really don't know what to say! Every time i'm seeing your projects like an addict who wants more and more and more :D
It may surprise you that this question is doing a german to you, but i listend that you are also working on the Palacio de Bellas Artes? If it's true you would make me really happy to let me take a little look ;D. You are really the best!
I can't wait for the Kaiser Church, but what ever happened to the Berliner dom? The last photos I saw made it seem almost complete.
Hello all.
Thaks for your comments, and indeed, it is the Gedächtniskirche (Pre-War version).
Sadly, I haven't advanced on it yet, as I've been terribly bussy the last couple of weeks, maybe this weekend I'll be able to do some work on it.
peterycristi: Gracias por tu comentario ;D . Acerca del palacio de bellas artes, es cierto que lo tengo como un proyecto, pero no ha llegado a mucho más que eso porque me faltan imágenes de la parte posterior. Tal vez este diciembre me de una vuelta por el DF y pueda tomarlas para así comenzar con el modelado.
Serebii666: The Berliner dom has been on the LEX since Sept 25th and I also believe you even left a comment on it ???
So sorry!! I meant the Riechstag.
P.S. The Berliner Dom is a real jewel. It fits perfectly in my Imperial Gardens.
Waooooooooow! &apls :thumbsup:So wonderful amigo! &apls
Hola debussy,
ese es el unico imagen de la parte posterior que tengo, espero que te sirve...
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saludos a mexico
Aquí encontré otra foto d ela parte de atrás ;)
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Y otra muy buena de mayor tamaño ;D
http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/11410955.jpg
What happened to the Vienna Opera House? It looked like it was almost completed.
WOW! Although the work is amazing, this thread is deader than an abandoned factory.
Well, sorry for the lack of updates, but I've been very busy the last couple of months.
I know it's not much, but here's some progress on the Kaiser Memorial Church. I've been having some trouble finding good pictures of this one. Currently, I've got the choir and most of the east towers done.
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I'm already drooling...
Great to have you back :)
Awesome !! this is simply outstanding &apls &apls Great work in all the way my friend.
Can't wait to see when you put the texture (and some more details ! ) :thumbsup:
Arthur
Woooooah! That´s my absolute favourite church :-O
can´t wait to place this!
I want this and I want this now Lol
great work that far
btw here this should help maybe?
http://www.kaiserwetter.de/kunden/kwgk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/gedaechtniskirche_1895.jpg
http://www.marlenevoigt.de/Bilder/zeichnung.alt.jpg
http://www.berlin-damals-und-heute.de/media/Satz_Damals_und_Heute-82.jpg
http://galerien.koepenick.net/albums/berlin/060_Hardenbergstrasse_Gedaechtniskirche.jpg
http://www.raumbild-berlin.de/material/kwgk.jpg
http://www.old-picture.com/europe/pictures/Wilhelms-Memorial.jpg
http://chestofbooks.com/travel/germany/berlin/John-Stoddard-Lectures/images/The-Emperor-William-Memorial-Church.png
I've just been there today at the Christmas market...
what a shame they plan to tear the ruins totally down now
It's offtopic,
but they really want to tear this historic church down? :angrymore:
Why that? So many great buildings in Berlin torn down! :thumbsdown:
They also want to tear down the "Deutschlandhalle", i know it was errected during a dark time of Germany, but it is a historic building, too.
At least they rebuild the Schloss, but it won't be the same..
Sorry for the offtopic.
Debussyman, your work is really admirable! I'm always looking forward to your next projects - really amazing. &apls
Though, might I also ask what happened to the Reichstag with the old cupola?
Fabian
Thanks a lot for the comments!
aNdi: Many thanks for the pics, have been very very useful to me. And I'm also shocked they're planing to tear it down, can't imagine why would they do such thing to a monument as important as this.
Well, here's a little teaser. This is an old image, I'm actually already half way with the texturing. I hope to get this ready for christmas.
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The church is still a class listed monument, so I don't think that it's possible to tear it down without any further ado.
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Btw, very promising picture. Looking forward to seeing the church being textured! :thumbsup:
Tearing the Gedächtniskirche down? OMG, andi, where do you have this rumors from? ??? The situation is the exact opposite! They're currently gathering money to renovate the scruffy ruins, if possible 2009 already. ;)
But BTT.
You're progressing very well with the church. I can't wait to see it textured. This will be another masterpiece for sure and personally will become one of my favs ;D
That is an absolutely stunning model (I have come to expect no less from you). I look forward to seeing it textured.
Well, here it is. Just begun exporting.
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I'm on my a**
It's absolutely wonderful :o :o
And there goes another keyboard. Wonderful as always &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls
Amazing ! &apls I can't wait the export ! :P
It obviously looks better than the real current church! ;D
Great job! &apls &apls &apls
Many thanks :)
The lot is now aviable on the LEX
YES!
We have to thank you, for making us such a great christmas present! :thumbsup:
:bomb:
Stunning as usual, good sir! &apls &apls &apls
Merry Christmas to you as well!
JB
Now your church is in my Plugins ()stsfd()
What are you going to do now ? Are you going to finish Versailles or Le Crillon?
... just another masterpiece in your collection of masterpieces ... ::)
Thank you very much . &apls &apls &apls
And ...
Quote from: Luciano on December 25, 2008, 05:58:19 AM
What are you going to do now ? Are you going to finish Versailles or Le Crillon?
Hotel Crillon would be particularly appreciated from me . :P
You rock ! :thumbsup:
Cédric .
Another awesome church by you, Debussyman &apls
Since we are just talking about the church,
here's an interesting article I just found, probably interesting for some
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,3570372,00.html?maca=en-rss-en-all-1573-rdf (http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,3570372,00.html?maca=en-rss-en-all-1573-rdf)
Always a pleasure to see your works. I look forward to your next creation.
Ouch ! I just fall on the floor.
That is just .......
*has runned out out words.....*
That's an awesome church there! Excellent work! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
With the Winterton Opera House you made Barby's birthday a communitywide feast. Wonderful work :thumbsup:
I must say that each time you blow me away with your fabulous creations!
You just keep doing it again and again. And when you ever release Versailles, I expect some will crown you to god :p héhé xD
Also one question, I can remember that I heard somewhere you were batting the Royal Greenhouses of Laeken? Greenhouses of the Belgian Palace...?
Is that correct? :) Gareth (New Rhodesia) photoshopped one of them in his pictures some time ago, so it must be true :p Can I say that they already saw beautiful!
As for Brussels, maybe I have a nice challenge for you... :p Parc du Cinquantenaire (=Jubelpark) would certainly be one, don't you think? =)
Not a request, just a hint :D lol
Anyway, good work! Hope you'll create many many more ;)
Carmin Hilton +1 &apls!
And I can crown you even for the Louvre museum (if U see what I mean......) :P.
wow, i just saw that church. its amazing! the detail is extraordinary and the textures look perfect!!
I hope you don't mind me asking, how did you manage to get such perfect looking textures on those round cone-shaped roofs? I tried to texture some cones recently and they were a mess. I was hoping there was some secret rather than just trial-and-error.
In any case, beautiful job! :D
Sorry for my late absence but RL has been a little hard this last months.
For those who have asked... Versailles and Crillon are on hold because of some missing textures I haven't located yet, hopefully I'll find them when I have the time to look in my old back up CD's. In any case, there's still a lot of work to be done on them.
@CarmineHilton: Yes, I've been making a little set of green houses inspired in Laeken as per Emperor Stormont's request. The structures are done, but the flora filling inside is what's holding me up from finishing it. About your suggestion, that's actually been in my mind, I took some pics of it in my trip last summer which might come helpful, but I wouldn't make the whole complex as it is quite large, I was thinking perhaps only an abridged version of the hemicycle with the arch.
Anyhow, here's a little project I managed to start this weekend, hope to finish it during the week as it is pretty simple. Let's see if you can guess...(Side view) ;D
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg178.imageshack.us%2Fimg178%2F3720%2Fimagen2t.png&hash=ed3be9ef775983cdd7df27a92d680f81781d9ab3)
Little clue... no surprise in here... it is a Berlin building
I take advantage of the fact that most Europeans are sleeping now. :D
It looks like Berlin State Opera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_State_Opera).
Great that you are back again! :thumbsup:
Looks like Teatro Degollado en Guadalajara :thumbsup:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teatro_Degollado
My bad, but anyway can't wait for that building ;)
Nice to read something from you !!
I do appreciate the pieces of news on Crillon & Versailles :thumbsup:.
oohhh Berlin Opera how fabulous :)
No worries on the glasshouse delay, appreciate why and know how you like your attention to detail so I shall wait patiently for them :) then obviously showcase in typical fabulous grandeur :satisfied:
I hate you Carlos... :D
No, seriously... Very nice work on the Staatsoper up to this point... if you need any mats of it, you should know who to ask ;D
moin DebussyMan,
or ask me, if you like ... ;D
keep it up mate, you doing an exellent job ... :thumbsup:
b_schlurf
Thanks all.
And yes, indeed, it is the Deutsche Staatsoper in Berlin.
The model is almost ready, just missing some details and nitelites. Should be ready tomorrow. Meanwhile here's a litte pic:
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Looks great. :thumbsup:
Looks excellent!
Can you do a different version without that green roof (maybe a flat roof) i would use it in my MD if not a problem :)
Heblem: Lamentablemente si le quito el techo de aguas la estrucutra superior no encaja, puedo experimentar pero dudo que luzca bien, de todas formas también puedo cambiar la textura a tejas rojas si eso te sirve?
Quote from: DebussyMan on March 03, 2009, 07:58:48 PM
Heblem: Lamentablemente si le quito el techo de aguas la estrucutra superior no encaja, puedo experimentar pero dudo que luzca bien, de todas formas también puedo cambiar la textura a tejas rojas si eso te sirve?
No no, entonces está muy bien como lo tienes, solo que se me hace muy inclinado el techo de dos aguas, quizá el mismo techo con la misma textura pero menos inclinado, y por lo que veo tienes razón.
Edito: tal vez no tanto inclinado pero si está grande, no? siento que las propociones no encajan a menos que asi sea el de la vida real...
Pues yo estoy siguiendo las medidas del real, como verás, tiene un techo bastante amplio:
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Ah entonces pues está bien, solo necesitaría ver la parte de central de arriba para ver mas o menos la perfectiva del techo, igual cambia cuando vea esa parte...
De todas formas voy a intentar con el techo plano a ver como queda :-\
Quote from: DebussyMan on March 03, 2009, 08:21:01 PM
De todas formas voy a intentar con el techo plano a ver como queda :-\
Gracias, puedes intentar algo como lo que hizo Eduardo con su Palazzo Vittoria, los ornamentos del techo y un acceso. Pienso que se vería genial...
http://descargas.capitalsim.net/images/bat/561_1.jpg
Stunning as always. I like the stone detail above the columns at the main entrance. Did you model that or is just a really good texture?
Spa: Thanks a lot, the pediment is actually a texture :P
BTE, Here's the final version:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg135.imageshack.us%2Fimg135%2F7920%2Fstaatsoperfin.gif&hash=9364bee858464d43b0b7c129a462b43c8555eda3)
Awesome work! the final result its much better, now i can see the perfective of the roof as I told you...
Hope not a problem my request, of sure i will use this building on my mD ;)
Wonderful! As usual, your textures are the very best around :thumbsup:
moin,
looks fantastic, your texturing is enviable ...
are you going to do the entire "forum fredericianum" (square next to the opera and its bordering buildings)?
b_schlurf
Hi Debussyman ,
Stunning BAT , as always ... &apls
My apologies for having not yet replied to your PM ... hard to coordinate our various agenda(s) . I'm now on another project but I'll come back to finish Notre-Dame with your help . At least can I publicly thank you , not only for all these fabulous BATs , but also for some of your precious time you're ready to spend for special requests . That's called Generosity . :thumbsup:
Cédric .
Mindblowing. I really have to create a city with Paris W2W buildings and the like, so I can use all those wonderful landmarks. :)
Fabulous! Wonderfully batted, yet again =p How big is it actually? 5x8 or something?
As for Parc du Cinquantenaire, it is indeed a huge building especially with the 2 hangars at the back. So an abridged version of the hemicycle with the arch would be lovely (if you would ever decide to BAT it).
>> Parc Overview (http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~jeff/wallpaper2/belgium_brussels_capital_cinquantenaire_arch_90ac_jubilee_park_june2_2002_quickbirdwall.jpg), a wonderful overview of Brussels with the Parc du Cinquantenaire, I think that could help too ;)
xo
Carmine
QuoteI'll come back to finish Notre-Dame with your help
BadSim and Debussyman, you write to much or not enought ()what() $%Grinno$%!!!! Which Notre-Dame are you talking about &hlp? (Obviously, it's not Paris, neither Chartres).
Quote from: CarmineHilton on March 04, 2009, 05:51:00 AM
Fabulous! Wonderfully batted, yet again =p How big is it actually? 5x8 or something?
As for Parc du Cinquantenaire, it is indeed a huge building especially with the 2 hangars at the back. So an abridged version of the hemicycle with the arch would be lovely (if you would ever decide to BAT it).
>> Parc Overview (http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~jeff/wallpaper2/belgium_brussels_capital_cinquantenaire_arch_90ac_jubilee_park_june2_2002_quickbirdwall.jpg), a wonderful overview of Brussels with the Parc du Cinquantenaire, I think that could help too ;)
xo
Carmine
Looks like the Jubelpark (Jubilee Park)
Thanks a lot ;D
Badsim: No problem at all, I love the hard work of MD'ers who are hugely responsible for keeping the game alive, and I'm always glad to help in any way possible.
CarmineHilton: 5x8 That's about right, but the final size will depend on the lot our friend Barbara comes up with ;)
Une_ame: Cédric is speaking of the fountain at the square Jean XXIII, behind ND de Paris.
beutelschlurf: I do plan making other buildings around Bebelplatz, I'm currently preparing the Old Library.
Finally I have a request for any Parisien who would be kind enough to take a good pic of the side wall of the Hôtel de la Marine. I intend making it instead of the Crillon as it has well limited boundaries which would make it easier to place in-game.
This bat is just fantastic my friend, it's perfect &apls
Wow that's splendid! &apls
Debussyman, I've you try this : http://www.pagesjaunes.fr/trouverlesprofessionnels/lienAnnonceur.do?nomAction=afficheBlocAnnonceur.do&typeAction=afficherBloc&actionAnnonceur=actionPhoto&crypt=CzxxLGosS6ahEHeColl9AwTq2vz4MO3n2OtKXIpCL4+khgYh2F48z9Q/IhHzg1eQASs6oEkxEV1Jc0cWepOtBQhtdTTHywjpbjkaMEyb4+qxqow40TNnqOH9QOcJBtLz&idContext=-957205865&portail=PJ
You should find the picture you're looking for there. The side of the Marine HQ (etat-major de la Marine), the other name of this awesome BAT, is on 2-4, rue Royale in Paris. If you want the other side, it's 1-3-5 rue Saint-Florentin.
If this is not enough and nobody send you anything, I plan to be in Paris in 1 or 2 months and will take some pics of the bat.
Merci Une_ame. Those links are great :)
&apls &aplsExcellent as always mate. Great add to your series :thumbsup:
My pleasure ;)!
Absolutely beautiful! &apls &apls &apls
Quote from: DebussyMan on March 04, 2009, 09:54:18 AM
Finally I have a request for any Parisien who would be kind enough to take a good pic of the side wall of the Hôtel de la Marine. I intend making it instead of the Crillon as it has well limited boundaries which would make it easier to place in-game.
Hi Carlos , can't believe it !
Oppositely to what I said in my previous post ::) , we have finally closer agenda(s) than I thought ! I'm currently working on Place de la Concorde ( with
Vnaoned's wonderful props ) ... would like to know if you have already any idea about the sizes of this BAT to come .... it would be too stupid for me to miss that !
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg11.imageshack.us%2Fimg11%2F9278%2Fhoteldelemarine.jpg&hash=8dd32e6a90f5b17aeafeeb47ede4fe8b88756a5a)
Currently the free space for Hotel de la Marine is 4 tiles wide .... something tells me that's too short , isn't it ?
Thank you !
Cédric.
Ho my God, look at that awesome square :o!!!!!
We all think about the same square &hlp!!!! Mine he's way too small compare too reallity.
Here what I've done (a long time ago) using only LotEditor and Antoine obelisque, Swi21 bank building and of course, Porki's props.
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I know, it's far from the perfection of the stuff you see here &ops. But since I'm not a BATer, I've try with what I've got :-[....
:o That pic is awesome, Cédric! But I see it's missing the fountains, is Vnaoned planing on doing them?
About the Hôtels, I can't give you the exact size right now as I'll have to tweak that when I'm finished to see that it fits W2W on both sides, but I calculate it would be around 7 tiles wide. You might also wanna take in account the size of the Louvre, but I can't give you too much hopes of it ;)
I wanna download it!!!!!!!!!! $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$%
After all my statues won't be so big compared to the size of the place counting on the coming "Hôtel de la Marine" building! ;D
I think I noticed a detail about your work DebussyMan, aren't you a fan of pre-war Berlin? Even your personnal BATs come from this periode, isn't it?
And by the way I never thought to thank you for all these wonderful BATs you gave to all of us.
Quote from: DebussyMan on March 06, 2009, 11:14:09 AM
About the Hôtels, I can't give you the exact size right now as I'll have to tweak that when I'm finished to see that it fits W2W on both sides, but I calculate it would be around 7 tiles wide. You might also wanna take in account the size of the Louvre, but I can't give you too much hopes of it ;)
Sorry to have open a debate here , Carlos , but it's an interesting one .
So the question right now is : Are we reasonable people ... or not ? :-\
My "Pace de la Concorde" currently is :
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That Lot - still under construction - is 10x14 tiles sized . To be accurate to the real one and to your BATs to come , I would have to enlarge it to 14x22 tiles ( real plaza is 210x360 meters ) . ::)
Even with the limit of 1256 items that I can save on it , I would have to split it in 2 Lots ... not a big deal . And , then ,the overlays set I'm currently using would not work anymore ... not an insurmountable issue either .
Now about Le Louvre .... Le Louvre - you could release - and Tuileries' garden - I could release - would be an ensemble of 22x76 tiles ... quick estimate .
Well , Carlos , if you're unreasonable enough ... I could follow you on that one , no matter the time it would take . ;D
(But , frankly , I hope you're not . $%Grinno$% )
Cédric .
Maybe DebussyMan could make two versions of the Hôtel de la Marine, a bigger and a smaller one suitable for your lot. ;)
Well, I'm affraid to admit I'm widely known for being unreasonable ;D
In any case, the size of the Hôtels can't be reduced as they would look too small compared with porkies BATs as it is the general rule to oversize quite a lot W2W. In fact, As they are now (7 tiles wide) they look a bit small compared to them. However, I could cut them to make a small like N1_2888 suggested, to fit better with your lot.
BUT... as I like being unreasonable, I'd like to make a deal with you... If you make the correct size of the Concorde AND Tuilleries, I promise I'll finish Le Louvre... It's a pretty big project which I'm scared of even starting (I have made essays but never really started it), but that's the deal... :-[
Ooops... Why did I say that... I must be crazy...
vnaoned: Thank you for your kind works, I'm also an andmirer of your work which I've been seeing at TSC... and yes, I like pre-war Berlin and most of my BATs do come from that time, guess it's because of the romance of a gone era, buried in the dust of man's hate, and also because as most of them don't exist no one will critisize me saying that they don't look like the RL ones $%Grinno$%
QuoteBUT... as I like being unreasonable, I'd like to make a deal with you... If you make the correct size of the Concorde AND Tuilleries, I promise I'll finish Le Louvre... It's a pretty big project which I'm scared of even starting (I have made essays but never really started it), but that's the deal...
OH !!!Badsim &hlp &hlp &hlp &hlp! Man, you have to say yes to such a proposal!!
BTW, your "place de la Concorde" is just perfect :satisfied:.
Omigosh, I was looking at Vienna's charming Musikverein, collecting images while thinking, "we really need a good German opera house BAT for those Strauss and Wagner romps," only to be awestruck by your beautiful Staatsoper on Unter den Linden.
Maybe the good modding folks here can somehow manage a custom sound file to go with the building query, a clip of the most famous notes from Die Fledermaus or Der fliegende Holländer, hehe.
Now to start bulldozing a spot for the Place de la Concorde as well. Speaking of custom modding...maybe some seasonal guillotines for those revolutionary City Journals, hehe! Opps, thinking out loud again...
I was actually thinking of something from "Die Zauberflöte" for the Staatsoper query, I'm leaving Wagner for Bayreuth ;)
Truly beautiful! &apls :thumbsup:
You never cease to amaze ;D
It looks gorgeous Carlos, very impressive. I love the detailing as always and will enjoy using it :)
As for the Louvre OMG!!!! I would die to use that, truly a beautiful gallery and joy to explore. Have wasted many a day walking its galleries.... :satisfied:
Hmm, BATting the Louvre will be difficult, not only because it is big (indeed, very big :D ), but also because it's slightly asymmetric (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Plan_louvre1.svg) following the Seine's shape.
That's where I'd take some artistic license and make it straight. If I made it in its original shape, it wouldn't fit sorrounding streets nor Xannepan's Rue de Rivoli BATs ;)
I'm sorry to have to say that , Carlos , but ....
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... you'd better start to BAT . ;D
I convinced Vincent to BAT not only the fountains of Place de la Concorde but also to join that insane project ...
While you'll work on Hotel Crillon , Hotel de la Marine and the monster ( Le Louvre ) , he will release :
Le musée de L'Orangerie ...
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La galerie nationale du Jeu de Paume ...
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... and various others props for Tuileries's garden .
Vincent , whom is as crazy than us two , has even already planed several others things around ... $%Grinno$%
Well , here is my proposal :
As the hardest part of that project will be released by Vincent & you , I suggest a separated thread ( Outside AntigOne or your BAT thread ) . Maybe - with the authorization from the STAFF - a thread in the
Projects section ... where each of us three will show his progresses . It could be named "The Triumphal Way" as it is the well-known name of that Parisian perspective . About 4,5 Km (or 3 miles ) between the Arc of Triumph and Le Louvre ...
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Would like to see Barbara as moderator .
Have still some documentation works to do before to launch it officially , if you or Vincent agree , disagree with that proposal or have another one , just let me know . I've got an open-mind . :thumbsup:
Quote from: DebussyMan on March 07, 2009, 10:59:09 AM
... I'm scared of even starting .
So do I ... ()flower()
Cédric .
Even the biggest projects begin with a small detail you expend beyond the limits you first thougt about...
Well, that's quite a project and as I told you Cédric I really honored to join each one of you in this project.
Can't wait the official start! Working with the Cathedralizer Himself, that's something. :)
Badsim, vnaoned, Barby and the Master, looks like a dream team for an awesome challenge (something like the NAM) &hlp.
Excellent work debussy &apls
Good luck for the louvre , but i have a question for you: when you will upload your last bat ? is to beautiful
excuse me for my bad english &mmm
Edit: you upload it, it will be really beautiful in my city :thumbsup:
*Gulp* Seems like we are THAT crazy after all...
I'm really glad that Vincent (and David) are jumping aboard this boat (hope its "weight" doesn't make it sink $%Grinno$% )
I think it is a good idea to make a special project thread as this is pretty big. I'll need some documentation as well, specially on some parts of Le Louvre of which I lack of good pics. Hope someone would be able to provide them... but I'm getting ahead of myself.
For the moment I won't be really aviable as I have to prepare a big exam for next week. But after the 17th I'll be able to start with it...
Good luck and may God help us :-[
BTW: The Berliner Staatsoper Unter den Linden is aviable on the LEX
Alea jacta est , so . ::)
Vincent & David aren't only very talented but also very voluntary . We can't fail ...
Arthur (Art128 ) is living in Paris and has already offered his help for pictures ... ( see thread "Batiments Français" in the french subforum here ) .
We don't intend to rush either . For the time being I'm still planing props with Vincent for Place de la Concorde , then I will draw that part of the Seine on a virgin large city tile , and the project will be officially launched ...
Thanks so much , and good luck for the big exam . :)
Cédric .
Let me know when you are ready so I can open a new board in the Projects Forum. I'm not sure how I can help other than that but if I can please just ask.
I think we can consider that David (Orange) has throwned the sign of departure...
http://www.toutsimcity.com/forums.php?viewthread=525934&page=18#540063 (http://www.toutsimcity.com/forums.php?viewthread=525934&page=18#540063)
The louvre, huh? I'm sure you'll make the most fantastic job of it, like all of your BATs. I'll be there in April, so that's probably too late to be of any use to you (I shoot using a Nikon D70)
QuoteLet me know when you are ready so I can open a new board in the Projects Forum
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The projects here are looking fantastic. :)
OMG!! &apls
Amazing, recreating one of the most beautiful vista's in the urban world is truly special and shall enjoy seeing its progress and eventually using it. VERY exciting indeed and so glorious to see such a collection of talent gathered together :satisfied: (my frenchman is pleased :) )
Thanks for the Berlin W2W and that historic water tower!
Great Job! &apls &apls
Thank you too for the Water Tower and for the Berlin W2W. They have now a good place in my CJ :D ;)
The W2W buildings are wonderful Carlos, thanks a lot for sharing them :thumbsup:
You kill me with that watertower ()sick().
It seems that you start to publish your hitherto [strange word ??? ] private BATs (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=5722.msg183415#msg183415), don't you? $%Grinno$%
The tenements visible above the bridge would indeed perfectly go together with these office buildings (http://kurier.simcityplaza.de/details.php?file=320) from Odd from Sweden, even more if there were 1x1 versions with no wings in the backyard and some residential corners like this (http://kurier.simcityplaza.de/details.php?file=323) ...
Ok, I will rein myself in now. :D
Thanks all! Hopefully I'll be bringing a few new surprises in the weeks to come ;)
Quote from: N1_2888 on April 19, 2009, 03:58:00 PM
It seems that you start to publish your hitherto [strange word ??? ] private BATs (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=5722.msg183415#msg183415), don't you? $%Grinno$%
The tenements visible above the bridge would indeed perfectly go together with these office buildings (http://kurier.simcityplaza.de/details.php?file=320) from Odd from Sweden, even more if there were 1x1 versions with no wings in the backyard and some residential corners like this (http://kurier.simcityplaza.de/details.php?file=323) ...
Ok, I will rein myself in now. :D
All in good time, my friend... %wrd
Sorry, I couldn't hold off. :D
Believe me, I'm already very very comfortable with the buildings that you've already published! :thumbsup:
Thank you for the w2w they are amazing, do you have the intention to upload your small tower , the second on this picture ? I really love it like most or all your creation
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sorry for the bad english &ops
Thanks a lot for the first release of your Berlin-BATs! You are really the best, doing buildings of our beautifull capital. As jeanmi said, the "Hallesches Tor" is one of your greatest BATs and one of my favourite buildings of prewar Berlin. I like a lot your passion you have for Spree-Athen! Go on releasing Berlin houses and landmarks ;). Cuando empiezas con la isla de los museos? ;D
saludos
peterycristi
hey
I'm in LOVE with your work
it looks so great and realistic, you're my idol :thumbsup:
as for your model of the "Schlossbrücke" (see two posts above, the bridge)
do you have some tips on creating statues? I suck in modeling statues but I do need some for the model of the Stadtschloss
It would be awesome if you could help me
but till then
keep up the perfect work!!!!
Can we some pictures of the canals you made?
you created your BAT fame by creathing worldly masterpieces and that often over shadows your talent for creating smaller-scale BATs, like those buildings from your private collection, they are awesome. I love your smaller buildings, and they are used in every city I make, I hope to see more of those. :)
Thank you all!
jeanmi: Perhaps I could upload it in a future prop pack, but I can't publish it as a standalone lot because it doesn't fit the standard 16x16 rule.
Meanwhile, I've got a lot of free time due to the government measures while the pandemic alert, so I've started a project I wanted to make long ago. It's a church, I believe a pretty obvious one, but let's see if you can guess. Still in very early stages.
Hint: My Saint Patron, hopefully if I finish it, God will deliver us from disease as He did with this church in RL ;)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg18.imageshack.us%2Fimg18%2F9420%2Fecclesia.gif&hash=545b0e383db1c5dc8c7991012c0c0b14880c39b0)
&apls great start, I like every BAT you've done.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: DebussyMan on April 30, 2009, 05:11:30 PM
It's a church, I believe a pretty obvious one, but let's see if you can guess.
[...]
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Hmm, very difficult indeed ... $%Grinno$%
(Tell me if you need some pictures. ;) )
Ohh, I was there in 1994, during a school trip - quite a fascinating building indeed!
Been there few years ago as well. Excellent choice and very good progress ;D
fantastic work &apls &apls
Oh my the Karlskirche, how simply fabulous. A truly unique yet beautiful church. Look forward to seeing the progress with it.
I hope you and your family are keeping well also, must be rather unsettling in Mexico at the moment.
Some pictures I made in August 2007:
http://www.simforum.de/showpost.php?p=2958878&postcount=74
I've got the feeling that this big baby's gonna be beautifull.................
The real one is soooo awesome. Thanks N1-2888 for the nice pics :thumbsup:.
&apls &apls Excellent choice. Do you gonna do the fountain too ?
&apls &apls Excellent work like always! Can't wait to see the progress! ;D
saludos
Once again this project is as high as your talent &apls
I love this new BAT ()stsfd()
realy fantastic &apls &apls
Wow!!! Very amazing. I hope you finish this very soon. Oh, do you take requests? If you do, can you make Heinz Chapel in Pittsburgh? It is very beautiful building. Thank you and keep up the good work. ;D
Oooh! Beautiful! I can't wait to see the finished product! I'm sure it will be as realistic as the real one.
Yes, another Masterpiece of the Cathedralizer!! Great... and good luck.
Took a little break on Karlskirche. That ellipsoidal dome gave me some headaches. So I decided to continue on a long overdue project. The west facade is almost complete, just missing a few details...
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg188.imageshack.us%2Fimg188%2F8347%2Fversailles.gif&hash=d8f518a9bbdd7c31009767513e8f3120f31bf0c7)
&apls beautiful model !!!
&apls &apls very impressive and like i said i`m happy that you still working on it.
Hey Carlos, it's incredible what you done there my friend, as alwyas, a lots of very fine details !! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Ps - If you want some photos, just tell me from what street and I will take it !! ;)
Looking forward to more amigo !
Arthur. :thumbsup:
Louis XIV. would be definitely very comfortable with the model! :D
&apls &apls &apls
Ouch, that is a BEAUTY.
:o Well that's fairly impressive... :D
Amazing as always! &apls &apls &apls
OH YES! Thanks for that update on Versailles! :thumbsup: &apls &apls &apls
BTW, what exactly gave you the headaches on the Karlskirche cupola? The dimensions or how to make them into the model?
Very nice! That will be a worthy addition to any city when it is completed. &apls
I've already got a site reserved in my capital for when this beauty hits the LEX. Great work! &apls &apls
-Stijn-
Looks wonderful. What do you plan on doing about the gardens?
Thanks a lot for your comments! :)
Arthur: Many thanks for your offer. If you get a chance, It'd be very helpful if you could get some shots from these facades which are very hard to find on the net:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg200.imageshack.us%2Fimg200%2F8676%2Fversaillesciel.gif&hash=afd950551b674c60de3f5205a22894b7280e0008)
Lars: The problem is not so much the cupula as the drum below it. I'm having a hard time calculating the proportions, angle and torsion of its elements. With a circular plan its a pretty simple formula, but with the elliptical one it gets a lot harder. Now I wish I had payed more attention to my analytic geometry classes ::)
Toxicpiano: I had originally asked D66 to help me with them, but since she's not around I guess I'll have to take a try on them myself. My plan is to make the gardens only until L'Allée de l'Eté. But what worries me most is the orangerie, as it is carved below the ground level of the Château, so it will require a little more ingenuity.
wow thats wonderfull detail &apls &apls
Quote from: DebussyMan on May 16, 2009, 04:25:50 PMLars: The problem is not so much the cupula as the drum below it. I'm having a hard time calculating the proportions, angle and torsion of its elements. With a circular plan its a pretty simple formula, but with the elliptical one it gets a lot harder. Now I wish I had payed more attention to my analytic geometry classes ::)
Ouh, yes, analytic geometry... A bell is ringing somewhere :D
Indeed ellipses and especially ellipsoids are tough bitches to calculate. I'm not that well versed calculating them, too (not at all to be honest)... Hm... Been trying to find out some specs, but I wasn't that succesfull. All I found out were two more or less exact angles. Dunno if it is of help for you, but still:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fcropnails%2F290a1a6828475b87515091616976c1d0.jpg&hash=b784a82bf169d9e3a3ca1e812350f146c4bd09e7) (http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/290a1a6828475b87515091616976c1d0.jpg)
Thank you, Lars, that diagram will sure be helpful :)
Meanwhile, here's a little teaser. Reminds me I gotta get a larger light rig:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg190.imageshack.us%2Fimg190%2F5010%2Fversaipers.th.gif&hash=128527a74bc95af51f06a2c5cac2f10e7597815e) (http://img190.imageshack.us/my.php?image=versaipers.gif)
zomg! It's huge! &apls &apls &apls
One more time, I got no worlds.....
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Once more the progress on Versailles looks terrific!
And I'm glad if my plan can provide you some help, even though it's not much. Best of luck with the dome (and with Versailles too, of course! ) ;)
Hello DebussyMan !
very impressive work !!!!! &apls &apls &apls &apls
as a Versailles Palace specialist may I help you :
visit the web site :
www.banqueimages.crcv.fr/newsearch.aspx?advanced=
write for the research : NEPVEU
you will get all the drawings of this architect in the 19th century with plans and elevations of the facades.
I hope it will help you,
Yanyan
Awesome Yanyan, I wasn't aware of this website. For the non-francophone peoples, once you get the first page of drawing, just clic one Prochaine Page
DIES!!!
The images look absolutely stunning, I'm so impressed by the work thus far.
Can't describe how excited I am to be able to use this once completed. Shall prepare a most magnificent setting :)
Mon dieu! Merciii Yanyan! That was EXACTLY what I needed ;D
A votre disposition MONSIEUR Debussyman ! ;)
A Versailles Lover,
Yanyan
God, Versailles is such a beautiful palace.. The gardens are a b*tch though, lol :p SUCH a long walk...
Anyway, great model so far! I'm totally in love ;) xD
Take care! x
Quote from: Une_ame on May 17, 2009, 02:23:39 PM
One more time, I got no worlds.....
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agreed!!!
madre mia &apls &apls
A little parenthesis regarding the Karlskirche - I don't know if this pictures can be useful, but even if not, they might be interesting to view at least: :D
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fthumbnails%2Ff59a35480cf61f4f0148fa825b88b3df.jpg&hash=9e7a0d54a10109210cc39192341ddb41847d7604) (http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/f59a35480cf61f4f0148fa825b88b3df.jpg) (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fthumbnails%2F3077ed4d31dbeec3a05a52c55f5bcf9f.jpg&hash=6c99fe5efec632339b2f97406ceee0c79eeed263) (http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/3077ed4d31dbeec3a05a52c55f5bcf9f.jpg) (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fthumbnails%2F9b8d338b41f12605e6d1848200182310.jpg&hash=5a6686e68c4412263616c966932caa4280e658bc) (http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/9b8d338b41f12605e6d1848200182310.jpg)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fthumbnails%2F20a4837731c1a1589dc2fb2ee58f8bec.jpg&hash=970bf7a7fd04f7399c185b95cdfe3e6087a19b6e) (http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/20a4837731c1a1589dc2fb2ee58f8bec.jpg) (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fthumbnails%2F8fe10afce4c4c95e046c69bb7ece1efe.jpg&hash=355a78891f4dabbc72c3bcabece0379c6acfdc1f) (http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/8fe10afce4c4c95e046c69bb7ece1efe.jpg)
(Source: Hellmut Lorenz, Johann Bernhard Fischer von Erlach (Zurich 1992).)
We need updates. Please!!!! ;D
Sadly no news from Versailles. However, in my break today I tickled on a new Berlin W2W, based on a building which was located on Friedrichstrasse with Französische Strasse, across my previously released "Haus Faber", designed by Kayser & von Grossheim for the "Germania" insurance company.
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Looking great DebussyMan :thumbsup:
I am a big fan of all your work - so many great Bat's!
Keep up the good work ::)
Regards
Iskrem
Good start :thumbsup:
Great to see you batting again.
Nice start, looks promising. And sorry, I didn't had time to go to take pictures at Versailles, but I will try in the holidays. ;)
moin DeBussyMan,
:thumbsup: looks great, i bet you got an old picture for showing us how it was looking, please ::)
btw. is it still there or was it destroyed in the war?
keep us updated!
cheers
b_schlurf
Thank you all :)
art128: No worries there, thanks to the resources Yanyan poited me to, I have enough material to work on int. I'd appreciate your help a lot, thoug. ::)
beutelschlurf: Here's the only picture I have of the entire building. Sadly, it was indeed destroyed. Now the site is occupied by Galeries Lafayette.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg3.imageshack.us%2Fimg3%2F3205%2Fedificio.jpg&hash=a52c18e983d888ceac5c091931b8f4570fb558c8)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3055%2F2735565420_795f98ba3e.jpg%3Fv%3D0&hash=d7529f08fb862a420ad77b4061ecdb0912b4c30e)
Carlos, you impress me a lot, it is going to be a very beautiful bat &apls
YAY WE HAS UPDATES!! ;D
Beautiful building by the way. :thumbsup:
Looks like a promising start. Too bad about the old place, the new building is not much of a replacement!
Quote from: DebussyMan on July 01, 2009, 08:52:55 PM
Sadly no news from Versailles.
And what about Hôtel de la Marine? ;)
Any progress so far?
N1_2888: nope, haven't worked on it yet, however, I recently discovered google earth street view for Paris, that should speed up the process.
A tiny update on the Germania building:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi232.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee249%2FDebussyman%2Fgermania.gif%3Ft%3D1247377845&hash=55125e28cf005bf8b424cffc59ba0115aee079c3)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi232.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee249%2FDebussyman%2Fgermaniapers.gif&hash=4c06718918df00aa6096b5031bce2ba3dfb3f977)
Another magnificent project... I'm still a fan of your work. &apls
What attention to detail, it's beautifull &apls
Quote from: Quesh on July 12, 2009, 03:05:23 AM
What attention to detail, it's beautifull &apls
I agree . You are a master , but you already know ;D
Wonderful work as always Carlos! :thumbsup:
This is absolutely wonderful !
moin DebussyMan,
:o what can i say, i agree with the other guys, it's just magnificent!
did you do those Caryatids by yourself! this all looks stunning!
cheers
b_schlurf
Great Job! :thumbsup: By the way, How's the Reichstag coming along? ()what() It looked quite marvelous and I can't wait to see the steel and glass cupola!
What i can say :o?! It's an amazing work! And this type of building is exactelly what ist still missing in the middle-european set! &apls &apls
saludos
Peter
Thank you all.
beutelschlurf: Yep I did them, they are actually very simple models, but they work well in the SC4 level of detail.
serebii666: I have made a little progress on it, but it's precisely that cupola that is holding me back, a little more complicated than I tought.
Finally, here's the complete model with textures, I still have to work on the inner courtyard though:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi232.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee249%2FDebussyman%2FGermaniamental.gif&hash=999395657854608e7f75b01293cdf053dc5889ef)
What a stunning building :thumbsup:
:o was all I could do for 30 minutes...
:o :shocked2: This is awesome!
OMG!!! That's great for sure... :o
:o :o :o
Wonderful work. :thumbsup:
Oh it's gorgeous, absolutely love the intricate detailing. Superb :satisfied:
Great work Carlos!
moin DebussyMan,
it's just looking fantastic! &apls
now, we all can't wait till you got it released!
b_schlurf
&apls &aplsJust awesome
wow! all I can say is .... wow!
a million of this -> &apls
Simply stunning. Really.
-Pingangster
Let me just join the rest, and say it looks excellent.
Amazing work as always!
I've said it before and I'll say it again... previews like that make me think I should just quit BATting! Beautiful as always! &apls
JB
Thanks to all of you :)
Here's the final model, just need to light it and export:
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:o Can you just advertise us before put a pic on the final result please. Just for prevent heart attack. ;D Just wonderfull. Another must. &apls &apls &apls
^^ lool :D
Looks awesome! Is it going to be HD or SD?
All I can do is to bow before the might of the BAT Master. Even if I won't use it in any of my cities, it's another must just to please the eyes and soul :thumbsup:.
Ioan, what a cruel question ;).
moin DebussyMan,
(oh dear &mmm) you makin' me jealous ..., what a skill!
... how can i be an apprentice to you! %confuso
b_schlurf
Oh My God! I've never seen anything like it - Amazing.
Will it be a CO$$$?
Carlos, I can't say anything when I see a masterpiece like that ! ah and, why there is a base texture ? I think this is not really good for people who have personalized sidewalk and base texture.. It's just an idea, you can ignore it if you want.. ;)
me faltan las palabras :o. me quedo impactado de tu trabajo! &apls &apls
Thanks everyone ;D
The Germania building is now being loted and should be aviable soon.
io_bg: I exported it on SD and that's how it will be uploaded, but if anyone wants it (ar any of my BATs) HD, they can ask me personally and I'll try to render it that way.
joelyboy911: yep, the growable will be CO$$$
art128: don't worry, I just placed the base texture for measurment purposes, the exported version won't have it. ;)
On other news, thanks to some great pics sent to me by Une_ame, I can continue working on the Crillon. However, the pics made me aware of many things I had done wrong in my first attempt, so I decided to sart it da capo. Here's what I've got so far:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi232.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee249%2FDebussyman%2FCrillonI.gif%3Ft%3D1248583198&hash=d578d2d5a684dba85acdba86d0790595879273e8)
It won't be exactly like the Crillon, but more like an homogenous mix of both Crillon and H. de la Marine.
That's good news, the Crillon is on way ;)
what you're able to achieve is just amazing ... &apls
@ Germania building:
&apls &apls &apls
@ Hôtel Millon ($%Grinno$%):
:)
Great start DebussyMan :thumbsup:
Can't wait to see more!!
Regards
Iskrem
;D
As usual, can't say more....
Sorry :satisfied:
Do you know about bing.com? It has a great birds eye view feature in the maps section that gives a Simcity-like perspective. Paris has birds eye view, could be helpful with the crillon ;D
Just excellent &apls &apls &apls. And the latest BAT, I want it in my city!!! $%Grinno$%
Guillaume
I want it too! :D It's truly awesome! &apls :thumbsup:
Truly fantastic stuff you make DebussyMan &apls Looking forward to getting my hands on the Germania building :thumbsup:
Sorry for interrupting here...
First: The new Germania building looks stunning &apls Very good work on that
Second: I have just one question...
I'm 99% sure, that I once saw a picture of your own recreation of the historical Mehringplatz (Belle Alliance Platz)... either I dreamed that or you really did. I can't remember where.
If you did, I have a question:
Did you ever release (or are you planning to release) these two buildings here? (i mean the two that look the same in the center)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Berlin_Belle_Alliance_Platz_um_1900.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Berlin_Belle_Alliance_Platz_um_1900.jpg)
Thanks for your answer
Fabian
iamgoingtoeatyou: Yep, I know the site, but the images of the Hotels are not really clear and the modifications over the years (specially on the Crillon) make it quite unpleasant looking, I'll probably have to make up a roof setting for it.
Fabian93: The buildings haven't been released and I doubt they will be as a standalone work. Perhaps, eventually, I can publish them in a prop pack among other berliner stuff I have.
This new one looks fantastic. Your quality of your bats is always amazing. I really hope to see some of your stuff in CXL if that game becomes worth a gamer purchase :P
The Crillon is coming along nicely. It'll be nice to have that in my city when it's released. I think I have a perfect place for it...!
What I love about your BATs are the textures. They're extremely detailed, and they don't look "plastic" like so many other BATs do. Great job!
Been working a little slower than I expected, but meanwhile here's a little side pic:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi232.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee249%2FDebussyman%2FCrillonpre1.gif&hash=43e1fcf8ff27493dfb9525a4c58d5ed24ca32e52)
Oh my &apls
The details and stone work is absolutely exquisite. Gorgeous work, adore the small details. Truly fabulous :satisfied:
Great to see the progress :thumbsup:
Looking forward to the release!!
Regards
Iskrem
Wow stunning work here :thumbsup: &apls :thumbsup:
It looks awesome as usual, somehow reminds me of the old Berliner Börse
Fabian
Quote from: DebussyMan on August 03, 2009, 02:16:35 PM
Been working a little slower than I expected, . . .
You're not only the master of BATting but also the master of understatement. ;)
Quote. . . but meanwhile here's a little side pic:
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&apls &apls &apls
Yep i find it too that you been slower now :D :D . My god what is gonna look like if you bat faster :o. That`incredible well done. &apls &apls &apls
moin DebussyMan,
... i'm really glad that you love the european architecture that much! no one does it as good as you, mate!
b_schlurf
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It's fabulous &apls
Done and aviable on the LEX ;D
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi232.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee249%2FDebussyman%2Fcrillonfin.gif%3Ft%3D1249502111&hash=06bc463221edab2bafa30f8e1d6aca4ad7b66f29)
I'm just speechless! (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cosgan.de%2Fimages%2Fmidi%2Ftraurig%2Fa015.gif&hash=c0d0406bee461d0f37ada25373ce49d028384bd9) (= tears of joy).
Already ()what() ?
OMG, this gem was superfast !!!!
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GRACIAS
Amazing...! I've gotta find a spot in my cities for this!!
Hope Lars doesn't mind but I could'nt resist. ::) The Deutscher Dom at the Gendarmenmarkt:
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great works debussy! &apls &apls sin palabras como siempre! when will you release the Germania Haus?
saludos
Peter
Beautiful DebussyMan. Just BEAUTIFUL!!!!! I can't wait untis the Beutsher Dom is released. Oh, do you plan on releasing the Germania Haus? Is it finished? Anyways, keep up the good work. I love it when you make a new post. $%Grinno$% ;D ;D
Holy! Great work so far!
Do you plan to do the whole Gendarmenmarkt? With the Opernhaus and the Französischen Dom?
beautifull work &apls &apls
moin DebussyMan,
nice choice! ;D ... for the french chathedral (französischer Dom) on the other side of the place you can use the same frontbuilding and just add another chapel, but i guess you probably plan something like that ...
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... anyway, here is a nice overlook!
cheers
b_schlurf
We are never disappointed with you, thank you, it's wonderful &apls
Quote from: mmorales2 on August 07, 2009, 03:04:31 AM
I can't wait untis the Beutsher Dom is released.
Hist! The waiting time is already over (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=2152).:o &apls :o
&apls
Two astonishing Bats!
The 'Batiments de la Concorde' fits perfectly in togheter with W2W models by Porkie and Xannepan :thumbsup:
Looking forward to see some more updates on your work!
Regards
Iskrem
Very nice models :)
As always you do a wonderful and fantastic job. &apls I do have a question though, some time back you were working on the Versailles, do you plan on finishing it?
New Church, lets see if you can guess:
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Very nice start, can't wait to see the finished product :)
And I have absolutely no clue where it is located
Hello Debussyman !
I think your project is the Elisabethkirche in Marburg (Germany). This XIIIth century church is one of the most representative building of the early gothic style in Germany.
nice project ! :thumbsup:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabeth_Church_(Marburg) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabeth_Church_(Marburg))
salutations,
Yanyan
Great start Debussy!
Loving those textures :thumbsup:
Regards
Iskrem
The textures are indeed superb!!
Fabulous teaser :)
Thank you all...
Yanyan: Right you are! It is the Elisabethkirche in Marburg. I had my doubts if it would be recognizable enough as it is not a particularly known Church...
It is now finished and aviable at the LEX.
Once again you do a superb job!!!! I can't wait to see what you do next. &apls &apls &apls &apls
mmorales2: I'm sorry I forgot to answer to your post at the top of the page. I'm afraid Versailles is still giving me too much headache to continue, as I'm currently debating how to approach the posterior side of the wings which extends a few floors below the bottom of the garden facades, for this I'll have to conduct a few experiments to find the right solution, but I'd rather work on projets with a forseeable finish right now. Thanks for the support :thumbsup:
And again the beauty of your work kept me quiet for a moment. The details and the textures are just fabulous &apls &apls
Something I always wondering: How do you do this in such a short time? Do you have some seven Dwarfs at your order? Eight handes serving four computers at the same time? Or did you found out how to manipulate time?
I mean:
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A little peak of my next project. Hint: it's in Spain and it's BIG.
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Hint: I do not know what it is BUT I AM LOVING THE WAY IT LOOKS ALREADY!!!
You never cease to amaze me! These , along with generally all of your creations are top notch! Just wish you would release those canal pieces ;D
Jayson
Do I sense Grenada Cathedral??
OH my god Carlos! Are you read my mind? You are fantastic. Escorial is my dream!
I am so happy and I must wrote this post, my first post here ! :)
so hello/hola All :) and sorry for my english :P
Thanks You Carlos!
moin DebussyMan,
:shocked2: wow ... that's really huge - i looked for about an hour yesterday in google earth and wikipedia and could'nt find anything ... thanks to Jack_ (btw. welcome to the community) now i know what you are planning to do ... so i reckon you are finished by the end of the week ;D
cheers
b_schlurf
Monasterio del Escorial, you're really but really crazy Carlos !! &apls &apls
Hola Primero felicidades por tu trabajo realmente es muy muy bueno!
Congratulations your work is really amazing, you are truly one of the best modelers out there. Long time ago I requested the Palacio de Bellas Artes to the LBT team and I was told that you were planing to do it, is it still in your plans? I would love to see that building...Keep the great work
Saludos!!! &apls &apls &apls
Awesome start, can't wait to see more of it, keep going ! :)
Looks like the start of another masterpiece!
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Coming back slowly to the SC4 world , this is my very first download since months ... magnificent , as we can only expect from you . &apls
As expected too , its sizes don't match with my current version of Place de la Concorde . ;D
A lot of work are waiting for me ... $%Grinno$%
Of course , I admire as well all your others masterpieces . :thumbsup:
( Would be curious to see your "To do , surely/maybe" list ... $%#Ninj2 )
Thank you so much Carlos . :thumbsup:
Cédric.
I hope you know that you modeled one of my absolutey favourite buildings of the old Berlin with the Deutschen Dom? ; )
And as always it just looks perfect. :thumbsup:
Do you plan to make some more Berlin buildings? And if yes, which ones?
DebussyMan, you make these awesome, beautiful, and amazing creations, show us them, and leave us hanging here. What's the deal? LOL. Please, we need more updates. LOOOOOLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! Anyways, you always do a fantastic job and I can't wait to see more. &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls
Thanks for all the comments.
For those who are asking, there are maaany buildings I'd like to make, but I don't have the time to work on all of them :'(
Today I had they day off because of the independence celebrations, so I decided to take a quick building and started this Berlin Church, Emmauskirche, located in the district of Kreuzberg. This is a reconstruction of the original, currently only remains the tower with a modern church attached.
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It looks like it its coming along beautifully. Great Job! &apls &apls :thumbsup:
You forgot a round windows just top of the door arches.. $%Grinno$% (Simply awesome so far ! )
Looks great. Reminds me of a church near by:
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Thanks for the comments!
Here's the final result:
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Looks great! &apls &apls &apls &apls :thumbsup:
BTW: If I ever could wish a BAT from you I would love to see one of the great German Roman cathedral like Speyer (the biggest still existing Roman cathedral at all, I got baptized there :), Worms or Mainz.
[shameless provocation to get attention]
Of course only if you can do something big like them
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:D
Bernhard :thumbsup:
Wow!
That's really amazing.
QuoteIf I ever could wish a BAT from you I would love to see one of the great German Roman cathedral like Speyer
Is that already Christmas or what ????
$%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% :D
This is stunning! I love cathedrals and all the time and effort people place in recreating them - essentially, meaning that there is so much detail to them in real-life and the challenge in recreating them. Excellent work, as always!
Another master piece by the greatest BATer ever. I can't wait to see more. &hlp &apls &apls
Wonderful!! I downloaded it, and it's very very beautiful in my city (if you want an image, contact me :P)
Guillaume :thumbsup:
We want an image :P!!!!!!
STP
Oh, that church is ... you know, it's hard to say.... incredible? I think it's the right word for it. All details made with great care. Great work :)
Late, but this forum is very big and sometimes I have difficulty moving around and finding right threads ^^"
Been quite busy (apart from RL) working on "The Crazy Project". But I want to show you a few side-projects of mine.
First, at Nardo's request, the Dom zu Speyer:
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Second, with the help of N1_2888 who provided some great pics, a Viennese W2W set, just one building so far:
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I'm looking for my jaw cause it just fall of........
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The second one is just speechless.
Your skills at batting are amazing! Such details and realism in your textures as well! &apls &apls
Fantastic job!
-Stijn-
The Viennese w2w set promises to be spectacular. You do such beautiful work, it is a pleasure to marvel at your BATs.
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&hlp Yikes! The little chapel where I once got baptised! &hlp
debussyman, you made my day week month! :thumbsup: &apls &apls
The Speyer Cathedral, just great.
And do you plan to do the great buildings of the "Secession"?
Quote from: Nardo69 on November 05, 2009, 03:29:10 AM
The little chapel where I once got baptised!
Very little. You could even call it tiny. :D
@ DebussyMan: Your BATing speed is just breathtaking - as well as the results are. :o
&apls &apls &apls
Wow :o
The Viennes W2W is really Splendid and impressive.
&apls
if I make a point, I would say that the roof is a little too clean
Och ... The Viennes W2W is beautiful... ... Can't you do anything in a wrong and imperfect way? ;D ;)
&apls &apls So great so beautifull.
i reall love your works... and i guess i'm not the only one here ;) Can't wait to see more of the viena-set. Are you also planing to finish the opera so? And something i'm still missing is the really great reichstag you started some time ago.
What a great work, really fantastic! :thumbsup:
saludos
Peter
The Speyer Dom is something not only Bernhard would like to see in his plugins. It will be a great cathedral for one of the towns in Andau.
And the Viennese w2w is looking great, I like the colour as well.
The Viennese W2W is very promising. :shocked2: :thumbsup:
You are preparing us a small series or just a single model?
Just excellent, marvelous! &apls &apls
But, when will you do the Berliner Mauer $%Grinno$% ()stsfd()
Guillaume :thumbsup:
Haven't had much time to work on my projects, however, the first Vienna W2W is already rendered, just needs modding.
I've also taken up a little weekend project, hope you like it:
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Always amazing. Happy birthday!
very impressive &apls, gorgeous, man these sort of shots are a tease.
indeed, Happy Birthday
"a little weekend project" :D It would take me months to make something like that :o :thumbsup:
That's already babuloziwad, even with no texture on it !!!
And now, a little song :
hum,
hum, turn off the light thanks
Feliz Cumpleaños,
feliz cumpleaños,
feliz cumpleaños Carloooooos,
feliz cumple-años /&HiPP/%!!
Waow, you call this a little project? :shocked2: It's amazing! &apls
Also, happy birhtday! :party:
It's a new wonderfull bat Carlos. &apls
And Happy Birthday. ;)
Just excellent!! :o Is it the Französicher Dom in Gendarmenmarkt? ???
And E-Q is right, Joyeux anniversaire Carlos! :thumbsup:
Guillaume.
Happy Birthday!!!
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I hope you like chocolate :)
Little Weekend Project, huh?
You do know you're crazy, do you? :D :thumbsup:
And of course:
Alles Gute zum Geburtstag!
Dogum Günü Kutlu Olsun!
Bernhard :thumbsup:
Happy birthday! :)
As you make so much gifts for us all over the year, I hope that today you will get a lot of presents, too. ;)
Vsechno Nejlepsi! Happy birthday!
great work as allways! &apls
estas son las mañanitas que cantaba el rey david a los muchachos bonitos ya les cantamos asi,
despierta carlos, despierta!
mira que amaneción!
ya los pacharrios cantan, la luna ya se metio...
el dia que tu naciste, nacieron todas las flores...
venimos todos con gusto...
y ya no me acuerdo mas ;)
FELIZ CUMPLEANIOS!
By the way... after reading your reply on my BAT-thread... if i did the nikolaikirche "for you", doesn't that mean that i've a wish? :D
Because the Garnisonskirche, Potsdam wants to be done! ;)
Peter
Thank you all for your good wishes!
Here's a little gift for you:
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peterycristi: hmmm... I gues that would only be the fair thing to do $%Grinno$%
ah Happy Birthday (feliz cumpleaños)
Now the texturing on that babe is jaw dropping :o :o
Wonderful, just that to say, wonderful &apls &apls &apls
Guillaume.
Very Nice work DebussyMan &apls &apls &apls
Have you plan to Bat Orthodox Churches ?
A new Berlin project: The Kronprinzenpalais (prewar version)
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More to come...
:o :o :o
The master is back! I'm lying to your feet for this new creation!!!
Amazing start for this one. Love the model. &apls &apls
Awesome! A new Berlin creation :)
It's beautiful! &apls
Arghhhh....
Another Berliner Bat
I think it needs no explanation...
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just WOW! You have no idea how long i was waiting for someone doing this! And the Quality is fantastic as always! :o
I'm really happy, that you are going on with Berlin, even if this is, well a prewar version, but not the original one ;). But i think to move it to the "Großer Stern" and changing the hight from 60 up to 67 m was the only good thing which was done for the creation of Hitler's "Germania".
Me quedo impresionado!
saludos
Peter
Thank you for your comment, Peter
Actually, this is a mix of Pre-Hitler and Post-Hitler version. It is 67m high (4 column sections) but the base is still the original smaller one.
It all looks utterly beautiful, and I am really glad you are continuing with the German bat's, they will all be particularly useful for me at a later stage of development in Andau. :)
it's wonderful ! &apls
I'm so impatient to see it in my city :P
WOW!!! That is really cool!
2 fantastic new Bats &apls &apls &apls
The last time I went to Berlin, the Kronprinzenpalais was unfortunately hidden by a construction site ()sad().
Anyway, great work on the Siegessäule, too.
Keep up the fantastic work - will you do some more Bats from Unter den Linden, such as the Kommandantur or Neue Wache? That would be awesome &apls
Fabian :)
Two fantastic new BATs :thumbsup: can't wait for download!
Thanks for sharing. ;)
DEL!
Thank you all for your king comments.
@Fabian93: there are indeed many buildings from Unter den Linden on the pipelines ;)
BTW, the Siegessäule is already aviable on the LEX ;D
your work is always amazing Debussy thanks for sharing it with the community
&apls &apls &apls
Gracias una vez mas &apls &apls &apls
I wasn't aware of this Victory Column ! Another gem from Mexico, Gracias Carlos :thumbsup:.
amazing, with those BAT's.. your/our cities can be really realistic
Another great BATs from Debussy's stable ;)
Kronprinzenpalais looks nice and promising, but I'm totally spellbound by Siegessäule, You made something that looks even better than the real thing :thumbsup:
Moving a while from Berlin to Paris:
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No matter where you go it`s always wonderfull ;D &apls &apls
I wonder which Parisian Church or monument is it.. ()what() Really....
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o
La Sorbonne ????
It's beautiful!!! I can't wait to see the finished product. WOW!
Waow!!! :o :o :o
I hope when it'll be finish you'll do... you know what $%Grinno$%
Guillaume :thumbsup:
ah ah very good start debussy welcome back to Paris :)
&apls &apls &apls
A great start &apls
The master is back :thumbsup:
The Val de Grâce !
Great !
Thanks for your job Debussyman !
:thumbsup:
Yanyan, I don't think this is the Val-de-Grace, looks more like the front of the Sorbonne University to me. Look at the stone volutes.
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Thank you all for your kind comments...
Sorry, no update today, but I just want to clearify that Une_ame is right, it is the Chapelle at la Sorbonne (as the image name says ;)) however, I also have in mind making the Chapel at Val-de-Grâce someday in the near future.
Guillaume: Actually, after this project I plan to finish two Berlin buildings I have almost ready, and then I'll move on to your request, I have many days off this month so that should come pretty quickly...
oups...!
&ops
So, I return to my art studies :D
QuoteI plan to finish two Berlin buildings I have almost ready, and then I'll move on to your request, I have many days off this month so that should come pretty quickly
Is it me or your are actually talking about the................. :o !
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Ok, thanks again Carlos, and... Good luck! $%Grinno$%
Guillaume :thumbsup:
Thank you all for your coments!
I'm just returning home from my holidays and I wanted to show my progress on a building from Berlin I've been working on for a few months now. This one has been a little tricky because of its curvy shape... but after many hours of fiddleing around I think I've finally nailed the facade:
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Waow!!!!! :o :o :o
Is it the Alte Bibilothek? :)
Guillaume &apls &apls
Oh wow, you never cease to amaze me &apls &apls
Indeed, that is the Königliche Bibliothek on the Bebelplatz
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Fabian :thumbsup:
that is some tasty stuff
::)
Sublim Debussy
As always it s so promising ;)
where have you let the Sorbonne ? ()stsfd()
You're a mater at this. &apls
Quote from: Girafe on April 06, 2010, 07:01:51 AM
where have you let the Sorbonne ? ()stsfd()
Haven't advanced much, but still working on it...
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I hope you'll finish both soon $%Grinno$%
Guillaume &apls
Quote from: Sciurus on April 07, 2010, 06:41:39 AM
I hope you'll finish both soon $%Grinno$%
Guillaume &apls
Indeed! and Versailles!!...
*drools*
Quote from: Fabian93 on April 06, 2010, 03:42:31 AM
Indeed, that is the Königliche Bibliothek on the Bebelplatz
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Remarkable similarity to the Michael Wing (Michaelertrakt) of the Viennese Hofburg, which had been planned before the Alte Bibliothek was built in Berlin: ()stsfd()
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Thanks for the answer Debussy, maybe you find it's not much advanced but I think you have already made a really good job
you talent has not equivalent ;)
&apls &apls It`s great to see some bat that it`s not only a square box ;)
Both BATs are, as always, amazing. Bravo Carlos &apls!
QuoteIndeed! and Versailles!!...
*drools*
Carmine, don't write that, you can kill people $%Grinno$%
Quote from: Une_ame on April 07, 2010, 02:22:04 PM
Carmine, don't write that, you can kill people $%Grinno$%
You ain't seen nothing yet, lol ;p
Anyway, fabulous work! *Loves it*
Thank you all :)
Hmmm... Versailles... still a long way to go, even longer than before. Last time I worked on it I decided to scrap the garden facades and start them from scratch. Haven't re-finished them yet &mmm
The whole project probably won't see its end until I get a more powerful PC.
On the bright side here's the Chapel at la Sorbonne almost done, still missing some details like statues, windows and such.
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Here we go again, I can use my special word I made-up for this occasion : BABULOZIWAD !
Amongst everything else, I particularly appreciate the roof textures :thumbsup:.
&apls &apls &apls
He, he it's a little jewel you have made :D
The textures are superb as always, now the statues I always asked me how people model this kind of items it's so difficult :-[
Which concerns Versailles ... it's one famous project and one of the best building in France, maybe it would be the master piece of your carreer ::) but personaly I prefer the "Louvre" :P
TY for your work about la Sorbonne ;)
I agree with Une_ame, it's babuloziwad!!! and amazing! &apls &apls :o :o
Guillaume &apls
One of the most beautiful BATs I've ever seen. Stunning. &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls
Both buildings are equally beautiful, and I can imagine the curvy façade of the library building being quite a challenge.
No update this time, just some news.
Finally, after many years of long wait, Google has activated street view in for my city. I always promised myself that I'd retake my first BAT theme (recreation of my city) once I had access to it from google street view. Sadly now I have very little time to BAT, maybe if I work tad by tad I'll get a decent W2W set in a few months. But don't worry, I won't leave my other projects.
If anyone is interested in taking a virtual tour around it, feel free to come!
http://maps.google.com.mx/maps?layer=c&cbll=20.967165,-89.622924&cbp=12,,,1,&ved=0CBcQ2wU&sa=X&ei=OXrKS7-xAajAjgPb_6yVCg (http://maps.google.com.mx/maps?layer=c&cbll=20.967165,-89.622924&cbp=12,,,1,&ved=0CBcQ2wU&sa=X&ei=OXrKS7-xAajAjgPb_6yVCg)
I recommend following the 60th street up north.
Please tell me if the link works ;)
that gridcity is barmy.... do you not get bored driving....
Quote from: mightygoose on April 18, 2010, 01:06:34 AM
that gridcity is barmy.... do you not get bored driving....
You not driven in a Latin country? Bored would be the last word I'd use to describe the experience :D
I have to say, it's kind of weird to see the streets have numbers instead of names. Your city also gives me a kind of holidayish feeling :D
Thank you for giving us so much happiness always DebussyMan &apls
Nice work as always! Just stopping by to inquire about work on old projects like the Reichstag, Vienna Opera House, and Versailles..
Cuando estara lista la " Alte Bibliothek " ?
Nice work &apls &apls
Well... the Reichstag is only missing its dome, Versailles is on hold until I upgrade my PC and the Vienna Opera house is "lost", I made a backup of it and must have it somewhere, but not sure where...
The Alte Bibliothek is almost done... just missing little details. Hopefully I'll have some free time soon to finish it among other projects.
WOOOW, Very good news ;D
Thanks Debussy, my Berlin it's not possible without your help, Really thanks amigo &apls
Hey DebussyMan.
Since ever I like Berlin and German buildings for Sim City. The quality of your BATs is really perfect. But one question: Are you planning to create the Towncastle of Berlin the "Berliner Stadtschloss"? That would be the most beautiful castle for Sim City 4. :D
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PS: I saw that another user asked you for the old Reichstag. I have modded it in 3Ds Max but propbably its not created in you style. How is the current status of your old version? There is only the dome missing. But I am looking forward to rebuild a pre-war Berlin. ;)
Hi Mexabuild,
i don't think that carlos is doing the Stadtschloss, because Andreas was working on it, since a long time. I'm not exactelly sure about how much he allready did. But you are right, that would definatelly be one of the most beautifull and interesting buildings for SC4.
saludos
Peter
Almost done with the Bibliothek
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Looking good as always :thumbsup:
Beautiful and very impressive &apls You're an incredible talent, not only in modeling but also in texturing :thumbsup:
Awesome :o &apls &apls &apls
So nice library, very good work as always &apls &apls
in the back of the building there is brick wall,it's in reality ?
Girafe: No, in RL the building has in the rear a wall of modern design with large windows. As I couldn't find a good picture of the rear before the war, and as it will be covered by other buildings anyhow, I tought I'd just place a brick wall instead.
A little notice:
THE ALTE BIBLIOTHEK HAS BEEN UPDATED TO CORRECT SCALE
Thanks...
Dear DebussyMan,
I follow your work a long time and I must say, all the buildings you have made are wonderful! &apls Hope you will have time and passion to make a lot of more buildings fur us.
Near my hometown in Darmstadt there are also some nice old buildings and may be you can build them?
For example The "Hessisches Landsmuseum" and the "Hessische Staatsarchiv" (see pictures).
wow carlos, that looks really great like all your works! Can't wait to see what you will do next! I still admire your creation skill.
saludos
Peter
nekseb: Thanks a lot. Those are nice Buildings, I might consider Bating them in the future.
In the meantime La Chapelle de la Sorbonne is ready:
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Amazing job Debussy &apls &apls
Stone facade, tin roof, slate shingles ...
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... what else could your heart desire? :D
&apls &apls &apls
This is a lovely addition to your collection ;)
haha el maestro is always here &apls &apls &apls
glad to see you batting parisian bats ;)
Incredible!!!! &apls &apls &apls
Oh mon Dieu!!! La Sorbonne! $%Grinno$% $%Grinno$% &apls &apls
Really wonderful, I love it! &apls
Guillaume :thumbsup:
Wonderful work Debussy! I can't get enough of looking at this beautiful dome &apls &apls
Hello Debussyman, Jack wilds here...
You sure a real knack and appreciation for this type(s) architectural subjects, structures -I enjoy watching the modeling progress...
:thumbsup: &apls I really like the Graben22, and the Sorbonne... the color/texture is quit good in my opinion... thanks for them, picked 'em up today :sunny:
Jack 8-)
La Chapelle looks really amazing! &apls
Yet another masterpiece! What would be our cities without your beautiful buildings...
This is my 1st post here, and it had to be posted here! Keep up the great...no...magnificent work!
Best regards,
Simbourgeois
Mayor of Belleville
this is my first post on this sit web and i want to know if you are going to make Le Grand Palais de Paris???And thank for La Sorbonne wich is magnifique!!!! :thumbsup:
A truely beautiful building. I hope your interest in BAT never dies. :thumbsup:
The walls ( :o), the roofs ( &hlp), the Sorbonne !!!!!!!
Muchas Gracias Maestro ! Merci Carlos :thumbsup:.
Quote from: carlo-nintendo on July 06, 2010, 06:12:52 AM
this is my first post on this sit web and i want to know if you are going to make Le Grand Palais de Paris???And thank for La Sorbonne wich is magnifique!!!! :thumbsup:
Grand Palais
From Orange,
TSC team, it's the most official advanced image of the "Grand Palais" for the
Triumphal Way TeamYou can check the topic of the project in the part project and check other creations of Orange in the part TSC team in this website or in the french website
www.toutsimcities.com
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ooohhh ce BAT est un truc de fou!!!Merci Girafe
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From La Sorbonne during May 68 ... I couldn't resist . $%Grinno$%
Your recreation is ab. fab. - as usual . Another cruel occasion to feel how my life currently hold me far from SC4 (At least September will be there faster than we think ) . May I ask for some news about « Le Louvres Monstre » ? .
Thank you so much Carlos . &apls &apls &apls
Cedric.
Hello Badsim, Nice to see you around!
I haven't advanced much on the louvre (been testing ways to fit various different rendered pieces together). But I think I haven't published any pictures of it... so here we go. The first (though a little old) pics of le Louvre:
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Awesome Debussyman, it's a very good beginning :thumbsup:
Louvre + Grand Palais of Orange, our friend Badsim is very lucky and will have work in september or a little bit later :P
if you need I live in Paris and can do pictures for you in case you don't find in internet but now with google tools we can access to lot of datas ;)
Yeap, those pics are exciting, did you have any access to Orange's pyramid ?
Waow waow waow WAOW!!! :o Unbelievable!! &apls &apls But when it'll finished... it'll be another story $%Grinno$%
Guillaume :thumbsup:
Thank you all for your compliments and help offers! right now I'm not advancing on le Louvre (I'll put all my attention to it when I get on vacation).
Une_ame: nop, I haven't sorted the pyramid issue with orange yet, because I still haven't made the Cour Napoleon. %wrd
Meanwhile, a little new project. Another religious building. Guess which (hint: it is in Paris ::))
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Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Paris :)
Not Notre Dame, because Notre Dame was made for a long time ago! Maybe its a chapelle near Les Halles or Saint Germain des Près?!
La cathédrale de Reims? It's a very good start!! &apls &apls If it's that... I'll have it first!! $%Grinno$%
Guillaume :thumbsup:
That has to be Sainte Chapelle. ;)
What a surprise &hlp! Yessss Andreas, those windows in the lower part of the building can't lie, this is the Sainte-Chapelle !
:thumbsup:
Really good start, a superb project in perspective ;)
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The Sainte Chapelle indeed ... not the most famous momument of Paris , far to be the less interesting either :
« The Sainte-Chapelle ("Holy Chapel"), located within the Palais de Justice complex on the Ile de la Cité in the center of Paris, is a diminutive yet perfect example of Gothic architecture. It was erected by Louis IX, king of France, to house the Crown of Thorns and a fragment of the True Cross, precious relics of the Passion. Louis had purchased these in 1239 from the Byzantine emperor Baldwin II, for the exorbitant sum of 135,000 livres (the chapel "only" cost 40,000 livres to build). Two years later, more relics were brought from Byzantium.
While these were temporarily stored in the Saint-Nicolas chapel of the royal palace, Louis set about finding a more suitable space, and commissioned the Sainte-Chapelle to serve as a reliquary casket, albeit enlarged to an architectural scale. In the flamboyant thinking of the 13th century, the idea was to elevate the Kingdom of France to be the leader of Western Christianity.
The original plan of the chapel dates from 1241, and is generally attributed to Pierre de Montreuil, who had also rebuilt the apse of the Royal Abbey of Saint-Denis and completed the south façade of Notre-Dame cathedral in Paris. After breaking ground in January of 1246, the Sainte-Chapelle was rapidly constructed, and completed April 25, 1248. On the following day, the upper chapel — serving as both a royal chapel and the place where the relics were to be exhibited — was consecrated by the Pope's legate, Eudes of Châteauroux. The lower chapel — the palace's parish — was dedicated to the Virgin Mary by Pierre Berruyer, Archbishop of Bourges.
The structure is 36 m (118 ft) long, 17 m (56 ft) wide, and 42.5 m (139 ft) high. Fronted by a two-story porch, the Sainte-Chapelle has the emphatically vertical proportions of Gothic architecture, which had been perfected during the 12th century. The architectural model is that of a building with a single nave, culminating in a chevet with seven panels. Outside, the design concentrates on the essentials — a sober base and heavy buttresses contrasting with the soaring lightness of the upper parts. The slate roof is dominated by the spire made of cedar, 33 meters (108 ft) high, a masterpiece of finesse, made in the 19th century, but an exact replica of the 15th century spire.
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The upper chapel is resplendent in its Gothic architecture — light, color, and space blend to inspire a sense of harmony between art and religious faith. Architects, sculptors and painters evidently took the greatest care with the interior of the upper chapel, as this was the part of the building reserved for the king, his close friends and family, as well as for displaying the religious relics.
Supported by slender piers, the vaulted ceiling seems to float above magnificent stained-glass windows. Most significant of the sculpted decorations in the upper chapel are the statues of the twelve apostles, which lean on the columns marking the bays. With their flowing dress, finely featured faces and hair in flattened curls, they impart a sense of serenity in all who contemplate them.
The holy relics purchased by Saint Louis were kept in a large, richly decorated reliquary, placed at the summit of the open tribune, at the back of the apse. They were exhibited to the faithful each year on Good Friday. In addition to the Crown of Thorns and a piece of the True Cross, the Sainte-Chapelle's collection of relics included a number of other key pieces mentioned in both Testaments of the Bible.
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The lower chapel is dedicated to the Virgin Mary, whose statue stands freely next to the central pier of the portal. Low vaulted ceilings rest on fine columns with crocketed capitals, linked by anchor braces made of wood or stone. The walls are decorated with trefoiled arcades and twelve medallions representing the Apostles.
French fleurs de lys on an azure background and towers of Castile alternate on the columns. The towers are an homage to Blanche of Castile, Saint Louis' mother. The vaulted ceiling is painted to resemble star-filled heavens, and the floor contains tombstones covering the sepulchres of treasurers and reverends of the Sainte-Chapelle. During the period of the monarchy, the lower chapel was reserved for palace staff.
Restoration :
Over the centuries, the Sainte-Chapelle suffered the vicissitudes of time, undergoing all manner of changes during the Ancien Régime. It was damaged by fire in 1630 and again in 1776. The stained glass windows in the Lower Chapel were removed following a flood when the Seine burst its banks in 1690.
Perceived as a symbol of both religion and royalty, the Sainte-Chapelle suffered considerable damage as a result of the French Revolution. Its furniture, stalls and choir wall disappeared; the organ built by François Henri Cliquot was transported to Saint-Germain-l'Auxerrois; the spire was knocked down, the tympans damaged, and the holy relics were scattered. Most of the statues were saved by Alexandre Lenoir. Starting in 1837 under the auspices of Eugène Emmanuel Viollet-le-Duc, significant restoration work was undertaken by the architects Félix Duban, Jean Baptiste Lassus and Emile Boeswillwald, and by 1868 the Sainte-Chapelle was returned to its previous splendor. While some of the relics were never to be found again, others are today kept in the treasure of Notre-Dame Cathedral and at the National Library.
The building was classified as an Historic National Monument in 1862.
Stained Glass :
Sainte-Chapelle is renowned for its richly hued stained-glass windows, comprising 600 square meters (6,456 sq ft) in area. Two-thirds of the pieces are original works, representing the finest examples of 12th century craftsmanship. Reds and blues are the dominant colors, in contrast with the 15th century western rose window. In these panes the full biblical story of humanity is recounted, from the Creation to redemption through Christ; Genesis, Exodus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Judges, Isaiah, the Tree of Jesse, Saint John the Baptist, Daniel, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Tobias, Judith and Job, Esther, the Book of Kings, and the History of the Relics follow one to the next. Each window, divided into arches, reads from left to right and from top to bottom.
Following a period of disaffection for the Sainte-Chapelle in 1803, its stained-glass windows were stored in a two-meter space, in order to use the building as a repository for the state's archives. They were admirably restored in the 19th century, then carefully removed during World War II in anticipation of the German invasion of Paris. Following the war, every piece was meticulously replaced.
During the past half-century, the effects of air pollution on the stained glass have posed extraordinary challenges to conservationists. Operations to restore and protect the windows have recently been initiated, with support from the Ministry of Culture and the Gaz de France Foundation. »
From www.discoverfrance.net
So , what a project Carlos ! :o ... as unexpected than exciting . &apls &apls &apls
Cedric.
The pics of the inside are just :o
Well, Andreas, Une_ame and Badsim (thanks for the informative post ;)) were right. It is La Sainte Chapelle! should be more obvious now...
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it's amazing &apls &apls
I asked me how you did to gather information about monuments before batting ? bacause I tried to bat one cathedrale but I have difficulties with dimensions &mmm
I usually try to read as much as I can about it (in the likes of the pieces Badsim published) I also take measures in Google Earth, all of this mostly to get the proportions right. But the final size is determined by how it looks next to a game sim.
Really impressive. :o
Waow!!! It's amazing!!! &apls &apls :o
Guillaume :thumbsup:
Aaah , I like it so much when you post some pictures of your work in progress ! Your BATing technique is so interesting , texturing as one goes along you seem to build it ...almost like it should have been built in reality . ::)
Plus , having had the curiosity to zoom a lot your picture ...
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... wow ... The Cathedralizer . Indeed . $%Grinno$% &apls &apls &apls
Quote from: DebussyMan on July 18, 2010, 09:56:22 AM
I usually try to read as much as I can about it (in the likes like the pieces Badsim published) ...
You give me the urge to read and learn at each of your new Bat , a week ago I didn't know anything about that chapel ... at my turn to thank you . ;)
Cedric.
thank you for your answer.
I am without voice each time I see your work. It's fabulous, what a pitty you don't export in HD because your models have lot of small details that every body appreciate I think.
As Cedric said, your CML has been well chosen :D.
Moreover I am glad to see more stuffs from Paris :thumbsup:
Thanks for all your work that you share with the community :)
Girafe
Told ya ...........Ba-Bu-Lo-zi-Wad.
Period
Almost there....
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You have given us so may exquisite buildings that I cannot think of a new superlative to describe your latest
Totally amazing... oh no, in fact there is no word to describe your work :o
&apls &apls &apls &apls &apls
Amazing work &apls &apls &apls
Now more Berlin from buildings $%Grinno$%
So good (Do you have still the feeling to progress on BATing skill ? ) ... The rose window is particularly amazing . :o
Can't imagine what would be my interest for SC4 after so many years , without you . ()what()
&apls &apls &apls
Cédric.
You are really amazing, stay in Paris no Berlin ^^ your creation are sublime thank you for sharing all your creation with the community
&apls &apls &apls
Merci Carlos, Louis is gonna be happy ::)
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Tooooooo bad we can't get inside !
&apls ...................... &apls (*speechless*)
Once more purely amazing :thumbsup:. And don't just stick with Paris, Berlin needs you too ;).
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Beautiful - this will be yet another charming addition to the game &apls
Love that! &apls :thumbsup: Thank you so much!
Small news from "Le monstre"
Pavillon Sully
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ah ah it's coming, it's coming, "the monstre" is near to appear :D :D
congrats for pavillon Sully :)
oh yes my friend, I waited largely "the monster" :)
I'm happy to see that finally you've decided to show your work on progress ! :thumbsup:
You know you've got still several years to achieve it ! :D Berlin needs you too indeed ... ::)
... but I hope to see it in game earlier than that . ;)
I know it will be a modular BAT due to its size , like you did for Place des Vosges and the open arms of the main courtyard will symmetrical instead of asymmetrical . David is still waiting for the width of the main courtyard (so the width of Pavillon Sully ) to adapt his pyramid ...
This BAT is going to be the masterpiece among your masterpieces ... and finally , for me , quite easy Lot(s) ! $%Grinno$%
Thank you for these exciting news . &apls
Cédric.
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oh lala louvre!!!
La vache! &apls :thumbsup: Wow! I love!
tres cool sir, tres cool.
Really close to finishing the Reichstag. Just a little more to go on the back, and some sculpture placing (with which Peter is kindly helping me out)
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&cry2
Wow!! you are a master at making buildings like this. keep it up. &apls
fantastic! Your work inspired me to start again. This one inspires me to continu!
glad to see you with this new master piece &apls &apls &apls
Oh mein Gott dixit a french $%Grinno$% &apls &apls &apls &apls
Guillaume :thumbsup:
Amazing! Will there be a version with the modern glass dome as well? But if not, still amazing! :thumbsup:
Absolutely awesome work! &apls &apls &apls
From there ...
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Hi Carlos , :)
The Reichstag is a magnificent building ( and BAT now :o ) and I would use it with great pleasure ( you know where ;D ) , except that I don't feel authorized to make such sacrilege ! $%Grinno$%
I know your taste for classical architecture ( pre-war notably ) , personally if it's my favorite too , I've got a particular taste for « weddings » between this classical style & a touch of modernism , like a glassed-in pyramid in the courtyard of Le Louvre ( what a scandal it has been , I remember it !!! ;D ) , a modern roof (& extension) for the Opera of Lyon , etc . This modern glassed-in dome on the Reichstag is another of these weddings , ( really a perfect one for a forced one ! ) , something I wouldn't want to miss , if I had a chance to visit Berlin . Well , all that to say I think you should accomplish a post-war version indeed ...
&apls &apls &apls
Cédric.
The Reichstag looks just awesome! Amazing work as always &apls
We need to reinstall a Kaiser just so he can properly award DebussyMan in nostalgic pomp the civil class of the Pour le Mérite, the Orden Pour le Mérite für Wissenschaften und Künste.
Hopefully, the ingame flammability stats will be calibrated so that radical fringe groups cannot ambitiously burn the place down in order to upend the fragile democracies of our cities. Bonus points for the Soviet-inspired city journal who unfurls their red banner props from the Reichstag pediments first. Very few buildings have such pivotal symbolic moments in world history...let alone get honored with the DebussyMan treatment!
That is one of the best BAT I have ever seen, excellent work Carlos ! &apls
Thanks for your comments! The Berlin Reichstag (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=2544) is now on the LEX "$Deal"$
To answer the question about the modern dome: I do not plan to make the modern version, however, I have sent the basic facades to Kelis as he intended to make it himself for his MD. That said, I don't know if he'll do it or if he'll release it eventually.
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Hi :)
The first is...WOW !
This BAT it's amazing, very realistic and spectacular, Great job Carlos !!!
My problem with the Modern Reichstag is the 3DS File, not open in my 3d studio 8, Can you make thing ?
;)
Gracias, Kelis! La verdad es que no hay mucho que pueda hacer para que el archivo funcione en la versión 8 del 3dsmax ()sad(), Podría exportarlo en formato .3ds u .obj pero perdería todos los mapas UWV y las texturas y posiblemente se volvería también un caos el modelado pues perdería las instancias.
Hmm, if you encounter some problems, maybe peterycristi could give it a try? After all, he's an avid fan of historic Berlin architecture, too. :)
Carlos y tu no podrias intentarlo ? se que no te gusta trabajar con Cristal pero podrias intentarlo, no existe nada que perder verdad ?
Aunque el resultado no fuese tan increible como el del antiguo almenos tambien contariamos con el moderno.
Pues tal vez podría... pero sería hasta que termine todos los grandes proyectos que ya llevo por años (Versailles, Louvre, etc...) lo que no creo que ocurra en un futuro próximo. :-\
Dios Carlos con tu modelo del antiguo Reichstag me as vuelto a dar unas ganas locas de seguir con mi Berlin Historico !
Tienes planeado algun edificio mas de Berlin ?
Tenias que hacer el antiguo Palacio Real que hoy en dia va a ser reconstruido.
Saludos
In english my friends "$Deal"$ "$Deal"$ "$Deal"$ :)
really good job Debussyman and thanks for sharing, if it's need I could try to model the current version of the Reichstag but I think Peter will do much better than me ;D
If anyone wishes to give it a go I'd be happy to send them the model. ;)
About the Stadtschloss, I remember Andy was already making it... but we haven't heard from him for a while.
Maybe you can work in the Stadtschloss ::)
Wonderful! Another fabulous addition to any city :D
The Stadtschloss sounds tempting... but I'll also have to sart it after I finish my other projects.
Meanwhile here's a little W2W from Vienna... Courtesy of N1_2888
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that w2w looks beautiful, and wonderful job on the reichstag as well :)
Oohh! The Reichstag is astounding! You really brought out the essence of its magnificence! I can't wait to see more Euro W2W!!
&apls &apls &apls
This Vienna's W2W is absolutely fantastic &apls &apls &apls
more small european W2W (Vienna, Bern, Prague...) are very welcome ;)
Realmente me sorprenden tus creaciones. Creo que alguna vez ya te había preguntado pero nunca has pensado en recrear Bellas Artes? Felicitaciones con tu trabajo.
I am really amused with your creations. I think I asked this before but have you ever consider recreating Bellas Artes theater in Mexico City? Congratulations with your magnificent work. I am glad to see you are still active.
I have to say that there is one word to define your work: WOW!
&apls
Just beautiful!! :o
Guillaume :thumbsup:
A little update on the Louvre.... still A LOT to go :'(
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...I think its really beautiful, it conveys the depth of its architecture
It looks amazing. How many tiles is that?
OH MON DIEU!!!
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Guillaume &apls
The attention paid to detail is exquisite
beautiful can't wait :P
:o
Amaaaaaaaaaaaaazing !!!!!
Wow, just beautiful! :o
Debussy but it's beautiful, even if ther's "still A LOT to go" :) &apls &apls
Wow, great job! :o
We realy miss that kind of big palace in SC4 ! This big baby among Xannepan's "rue de Rivoli" BATs is gonna be perfect. &hlp
Wonder what is the size of this wall ? ()what()
WoW amazing. &hlp
Fantastic work!!! :thumbsup:
Quote from: DebussyMan on December 23, 2010, 04:32:29 PM
.... still A LOT to go :'(
Indeed ! But we are so pleased to see your progresses . That's like to see a mastodon emerging from the fog ... amazing work , how could it be otherwise with you . ::)
&apls &apls &apls
Cédric.
An old promise we don't forget in Capital. God bless you.
Hispanic's Imperial See.
San Lorenzo del Escorial
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Slow but steady... here's a new Louvre update.
I have no idea of how I'm going to render this thing :'(
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WOW!
Fantastic work, its gonna be huge &apls
Can not help you regarding rendering but hope that works out!
Regards Iskrem
Quote from: DebussyMan on April 27, 2011, 09:14:47 PM
Slow but steady... here's a new Louvre update.
I have no idea of how I'm going to render this thing :'(
Is it in Max or GMAX? If Max, I have a 6Core AMD beastie that could tackle it (3 actually, but I wouldn't like to try net rendering for BAT).
Amazing work as always, debussy :thumbsup:
About the rendering of this huge Building I would suggest to split the Building up into two or more parts. Glitches could be the only problem but you could solve it the same way as explained here by jeronij -> http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=158.0 (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=158.0) ;)
AMAZING work!!! &apls &apls &apls &apls :o :o
Guillaume &apls &apls
FABULOUS work &apls &apls &apls &apls :o :o
That's huge.
Almost reality.
-Ernst
El maestro :satisfied:
*** I have no idea of how I'm going to render this thing ***
First, you have completed a work of genius! :thumbsup:
No words can't describe the quality of your work... ()sad() But that's because I speak French and that English doesn't contain the words I would use. :D
Seriously, if you use GMAX, split the building in multi parts for the rendering. But if you use 3dsmax, use a 64 bits version on a 64 bits OS.
Looking fantastic as always. :)
Quote from: callagrafx on April 28, 2011, 01:16:39 AM
Is it in Max or GMAX? If Max, I have a 6Core AMD beastie that could tackle it (3 actually, but I wouldn't like to try net rendering for BAT).
As far as I know, Carlos use 3dsmax. But i'm not 100% sure.
Oh wow it looks stunning, incredible, wonderful, amazing ....
Bow to the work of the author. Just want to say, though not the topic that to this day we do not BAT the British Parliament - a religious building not only for London but for the whole world.
- Ivaylo (Ivo)
Beautiful...you rule! &apls &apls &apls
i was just scrolling thru your thread and found this picture.
what happend to those buildings? they haven't been released yet except of the first and the third.
i would die to get the hallesches tor. do you still have those files?
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I'm sorry, but I don't have them anymore ()sad()
As with other bats I didn't release individually... Barby published a prop pack with various models I had lying around, they might be there, but I can't guarantee it.
They are in this set.......
http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1667
Fred ;)
I don't think they are in that set, they are ploppable cows :(
what a pitty :(
but thank you.
are you still bating? haven't seen stuff from you for a while :O
-i just found the alte kommandantur. hell yeah. you made my day :))
New project: Philadelphia city hall:
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Ay carumba! I've been to Philadelphia and that is quite a magnificent structure. Lookin great already :thumbsup:
Ah you are back! Great! And what a fantastic creation! &apls &apls &apls
Welcome back :)
This is a beautiful building. :thumbsup:
WOW, that's amazing!
New project almost finished I see there... :D Nice one, Carlos!
Looks great &apls Glad to see you back! :thumbsup:
incredible model and choice of subject, for a promising project, it ought to test your modelling skills... :thumbsup:
Waow, superb teaser &apls
Awesome!!! :thumbsup:
That looks really nice, one of your finest buildings yet. I'll definately be downloading this when it's released. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
This is jaw-dropping! I cannot wait to see further progress :thumbsup:
that looks awesome. :thumbsup:
I can not remember seeing any building modelled by Carlos that didn't look fantastic. This one is a beauty as well.
even if its not a berlin one it looks fantastic! &apls good to see you back!
Wow!!! I like this model, well detailed. :O
Finally! About the most-needed building in the world for SC4. That it's looking great so far is almost a given, knowing who's making it. ;)
Cheers,
Willy
::insert screams of joy::
Wow!
I was just walking past this building a month or two ago and thinking how awesome it would be to see it in SC4, followed quickly by the realization that there are only a few people who could ever pull this building off, and I certainly am not one of them. You, however, can do this building justice. Can't wait to see this finished.
WOW WOW WOW!!! It's great. That a details...
Thankyou all for your kind words ;D
Done with the courtyard... I still have to make the most important part: the Tower... which will block the view of most of the courtyard I just made... but well... at least we know it is there ()sad()
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Quote from: DebussyMan on April 02, 2012, 08:48:48 PM
... which will block the view of most of the courtyard I just made... but well... at least we know it is there ()sad()
Ah.. Those nice sc views :-) i know the problem. Personally I have learned to accept to only model the parts that can be seen in the game (which is hard to accept if you are a perfectionist by nature). But for me being less perfectionistic was to only way to finish something.
I see you are sticking to perfectionism ;-) ... as this looks GREAT!
I don't know the real building... Is there roof junk that you will add to the flat roofs?
my final question: would you be willing to share your wall textures?
Thx, alex
Thanks, Alex.
About the roof junk... I'm still thinking how I'll handle it. The building was restored in early 2000's leaving the roof with just tar and a couple of vents here and there, however, I have early XX century pictures where one can see the roof is flooded with skylights, so I'll probably go for that look to make it more interesting.
Regarding the wall texture, I'll send it to you first thing in the morning tomorrow... ;)
That's a beautiful courtyard &apls It's a shame the tower will block most of the view :'(
Nice work on the courtyard, Carlos! Too bad I'll be not shown in the game. :P
Taking a break from the City hall... I worked on a little on a project I've been circling around for some time:
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This must be the Zeughaus in Berlin, located in the famous Unter den linden !! I love it, this building looks so nice in the real life, I can't wait to see it in Simcity, Great job Carlos, I'm really glad to see you working again about Buildings from Berlin, Thanks Amigo :thumbsup:
# Jonathan
great news!! ;D looks very promissing so far
Looks really promising indeed :)
Berlin...Berlin...Berlin! :thumbsup:
Today was sculpting day... one of my favourites, althoug very slow.
Mr. Penn is now on his place ;D
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Great details. I just hope he isn't afraid of heights. $%Grinno$%
Fabulous work on statue &apls &apls
I checked further the Zeughaus, and if I am right there is a glass roof? did you plan to BAT it?
i can't wait to see this finished. it looks beautiful.
Hey Carlos, how about making a second version of the city hall without the tower? I don't know how well that would actually look, but you'd get your courtyard on full display. Worth a try?
Cheers,
Willy
Quote from: Swordmaster on April 05, 2012, 08:16:20 AM
Hey Carlos, how about making a second version of the city hall without the tower? I don't know how well that would actually look, but you'd get your courtyard on full display. Worth a try?
Cheers,
Willy
Well... I'd could try, wouldn't be hard at all. However, the courtyard won't be completely hidden by the tower, but will partially block some of the details.
Thanks for sharing, why not uploading on the LEX? :)
what's next? ::)
Quote from: Girafe on April 06, 2012, 12:16:54 PM
Thanks for sharing, why not uploading on the LEX? :)
what's next? ::)
What happens is that I lost all my "packaging, testing and modding" software in my last PC breakdown, so I can't upload to the LEX until I get them all up and running; my free time right now is scarce so I'd rather spend it BATting instead of downloading, configuring and packing. I will eventually work on that and upload my works to the LEX.
Next I plan on working in more Berlin buildings, perhaps advance a little on the Louvre and another big model I got in the backburner.
Here's the Zeughaus; pre-war version of course ;D
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:thumbsup: Great job!
:o amazing BAT &apls &apls &apls
Meanwhile... something from Amsterdam:
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wonderful bat. &apls
I like Dutch house.
Waow waow waow! Debussyman is back!! ;D &apls
Guillaume :thumbsup:
Thank you for the Zeughaus... I'm very impressed :thumbsup:
Wonderful ! A nice building you've made there.
looks really nice as usual ;)
do you use Simfox's bat4max or chris' plugin for exporting the scenes?
Every time I visit this thread I can't stop drooling. Every bat is perfect!
Great bats as always.
Thank you all for the nice comments!
Quote from: Girafe on April 10, 2012, 04:24:29 AM
do you use Simfox's bat4max or chris' plugin for exporting the scenes?
I use chris' because simfox's doesn't support scanline.
The preview I published looks weird because I changed the background color and sharpened it in photoshop because I had to scale it.
I always find it strange that yourself, Xannepan and Peterchristi don't use Simfox's with Arch and Design MR materials which is designed to bring out more realism and crisper details..I would love to see how perfect and crisp those details would look alongside the BSP, HKBATs etc.
That said, I LOVE all your BATs and am definately not complaining :)
So happy to have you back releasing stuff!
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D !!!
It's Westerkerk ?
I'm really happy Carlos, we will have one of the most impressive churches in the world, we will have an icon of Amsterdam !!!! I have no words my friend i'm speechless...I can't wait to use it !!
These are some pictures that I have made of this beautiful church:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mokingbird/6589950197/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mokingbird/5571240344/in/set-72157625240839212
Are you thinking of doing some other building in Amsterdam ? because... Sint Nicolaaskerk looks so good ::)
Realmente muchisimas gracias amigo, esto me hace mas feliz que los edificios de Berlin !!!
Saludos :thumbsup:
One after one masterpieces :satisfied: DebussyMan &apls Just...(no words) &apls
Getron
Your models are always mouth dropping!
:o
Robin &apls
:thumbsup: Lookin good!
gutterclub: The problem with MR rendering is that the lighting is notably different from the scanline, so any BAT rendered that way sticks out too much, specially if it is W2W or something that usually goes around a W2W setting, i.e. most european old buildings &mmm
kelis: you are right! it is the Westerkerk. I have also considered making the Nicholas Church, but it is hard to find pics of all angles because of it location.
Here's a little advance:
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Those textures are downright sexy. :thumbsup:
Quote from: DebussyMan on April 10, 2012, 08:12:45 PM
gutterclub: The problem with MR rendering is that the lighting is notably different from the scanline, so any BAT rendered that way sticks out too much, specially if it is W2W or something that usually goes around a W2W setting, i.e. most european old buildings &mmm
I understand your reasons my friend, it was more out of the interest in seeing what a MR version would look like..
new Amsterdam building is looking superb!
Indeed, Chris' BAT4MAX seems to be more appropriate to w2w buildings and I would say old building (and in this sense european churches, palaces...) typically the architecture you like to BAT.
However I would say, that for glass buildings, it's totally different moreover for skyscrapers. Simfox's BAT4MAX seems better.
What is funny is that BSC members prefer Chris' tool and simtrop members Simfox's one.
Anyway, this project is coming awesome :)
WoooooooooW!!!! I love the model and the textures are mind exploding. :O
Great job Carlos, looks so good !! Okay, I know, the Nicholas Church have a rare location, a bit strange for a cathedral or a Church with those dimensions, but in the real life this church looks so good in that location with all those buildings close of it... I have a lot of pics, different angles, different days, different distances, etc, So if you need I can send you all of them okay ?
What do you think about the Koninklijk Paleis ( Royal Palace ) or Oude Kerk ( Old Church ) ? I think you can do a great job with these models, specially with the royal palace :thumbsup:
Well, once again, Thanks for this job Carlos, as always it is amazing !!
The pics from the Nicolaaskerk would be very useful, please send them :)
About the Koninklijk Paleis: I also have considered making it (I even have some great architectural drawings); my main concern is that I have no idea about how the inner courtyards look (it is pixellated in bing maps), if I had a decent picture of them I might be able to BAT it. On the other hand, I really dread the Oude Kerk, it is so "organic" in its architectural evolution that making it would be a real challenge ()sad(). However, it is one of my favourite sacral buildings; it and the Aachen cathedral are two of the buildings I'd love to make but have not the guts to try.
The choice of texture is just fabulous. :thumbsup:
Great job on the model and those textures... it looks great!
Hello Carlos :thumbsup:
Okay, no problem I will send you the pics, if you want I can put them here, indeed just the links ;D
Thanks Carlos
Quote from: kelis on April 12, 2012, 01:15:52 PM
Hello Carlos :thumbsup:
Okay, no problem I will send you the pics, if you want I can put them here, indeed just the links ;D
Thanks Carlos
Links would be perfect :thumbsup:
Almost there... just missing the crown at the top ;D
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It's splendid, Carlos! Splendid!
Wow, incredible details. Fantastic work. &apls
Waow... no words came to me appart of "waow". &apls &apls &apls
Guillaume &apls
It looks soooo good. So detailed, and The blue and red details on the steeple really stand out.
Hi Carlos !
First, congratulations for this amazing bat, as always you did an awesome work, but this time to me it is more special because you did a building from The Netherland so I just can say, THANKS !! &apls &apls &apls
Okay, I will put here the links of the pictures, I hope I can help you with them.
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2936/amsterdam1x.jpg
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8859/amsterdam2.jpg
http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/2066/amsterdam3.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6254/amsterdam4.jpg
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8378/amsterdam5.jpg
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1996/amsterdam6.jpg
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/3421/amsterdam7.jpg
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/91/amsterdam8.jpg
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/6053/amsterdam9.jpg
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/739/amsterdam10.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/986/amsterdam11.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1842/amsterdam13.jpg
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2086/amsterdam14.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7669/amsterdam15.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/315/amsterdam16.jpg
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/5088/amsterdam17.jpg
Well Carlos, These are my pictures, if you need some another picture of another buildings in Amsterdam Just let me know :)
Saludos amigo.
# Jonathan
Hi Carlos :)
You've seen the pictures ? I hope you are working on the Nicolaaskerk :)
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I leave you a picture with your great BAT of the Westerkerk, I hope you like it.
Yep, I've seen them and saved the ones most useful. Haven't started Nikolaaskerk yet, but after some analysis I don't think it will take too long to make, perhaps I'll get to that next weekend.
BTW, great pic! I love seeing the Wersterkerk in the perfect setting. :thumbsup:
Acuerdate de el Escorial
Quote from: Jorge_Carrillo on March 10, 2011, 10:12:09 PM
An old promise we don't forget in Capital. God bless you.
Hispanic's Imperial See.
San Lorenzo del Escorial
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AMAZING!! keep up the good work mate!
@ Jorge_Carrillo: No te preocupes, no me he olvidado de él. El trabajo en el Escorial va lento pero seguro :-\
Congratulations! Everyone is looking forward to seeing what you have in store for us this month.
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Congratulations on your OSITM &apls You're work is just amazing!!
Woo hoo! Though this thread is of special interest EVERY month! ;D
Thank you all!... What an honor to be in the OSITM! :satisfied:
Here's a little something I've been tickling on... my attempt to make a Bridge. (Hope it all goes well and it won't be as hard as it looks :'( )
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I do have a few questions.
1.- Must I have repeat pieces?
2.- Can the repeat pieces be limited to 1 repetition?... my intent is to divide the bridge in 3, but that woud mean the center pieces wuould be a piece of the arch so it won't look good if repeated.
The model looks fantastic (as usual ;-). Just some advice on the model: later you have to make tight fitting LODS, at least for the parts that have a chance to go under water level, i.e. everything below road surface level. You may have to compromise of the level of detail. In case you didn't know: You also need to model the full bridge supports all the way downward, if not then the game's ugly standard support columns will show. (both issues depend on the actual height the bridge is build in game, ie height of the water shore)
Now to your questions:
1. In principle I'd say you can use invisible repeat pieces. However, in that case you might encounter some difficulties n the game (blank gaps) depending on if bridge length is an even or odd number. I do recommend to work with a repeat pieces. Looking at your model I think it shouldn't be to difficult to create a repeat piece from part of it.
2.I am not sure about this one... I know there is a lott you can do with RUL files, but that has always been an area I tried to avoid. NOt sure you need to deal with that issue. Again judging from your model I'd say it would be fairly easy to make the 3 bridge pieces from these. If I have some time later today I will draw the outlines of the 3 pieces in your picture.
BTW in my answer I am assuming you are not going to add more details to the model :)
Thanks for your answer...
See... this is how I want to divide it:
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If I make it smaller (the support with half the arch 16m) it will bee too small, and if I make it larger (32m) it will be too large ()sad().
Quote from: xannepan on June 02, 2012, 11:36:06 PM
BTW in my answer I am assuming you are not going to add more details to the model :)
It's still missing the statues :
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Ah i see... There will be some issues here related to your repeat piece.. Without rul files you cannot prevent that in the game you will have 2 repeat pieces between two center pieces or a center piece and an end piece. I used a trick here. You can have overhanging support and end pieces. So I'd recommend to 'extend' the center and end piece model by 8m such that when place nex to each other with one tile in between them, the arc is closed.
Next thing you would have to do is tweak your repeat pieces in such way that every curvature from the arc is gone... Basically only use straight (horizontal) lines here. The reason you need to do that is because there are two situations you will encounted in game:
1. One repeat piece between the end/center pieces (situation as in your picture)
2. Two (or more) repeat pieces between the end/center pieces.
Now here is the trick how you can deal with this: the length of the repeat piece will have to be exactly 16m, but you can make the width of the repeat piece model slighlty smaller then the width of the end and center piece.
That way in case of situation 1, the repeat piece will be covered by the overhanging parts end/ center pieces and the bridge arc will look perfect. In case of situation 2 the curvature will be lost off course (fundamental issue) but the repeat piece will nicely bridge the "gap" with only a minor glitch because you used a slightly smaller width.
I hope you understand what I mean... Difficult to explain in words.
After a quick test I found no problems with it the way I planed... ;D
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err... on certain lenghts I do get this little gothic arch.. but I think it looks rather nice.. If there's no easy way around it I can live with it. ::)
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Great work. &apls
you have to play a bit with the parameters in the supportinterval etc properties to avoid this :)
I have quicky photoshoped a picture with a suggestion for end, repeat and center(support) piece models :)
The red arrow indicate which part of the repeat piece should be modelled such that the overhanging parts of the end/support piece cover it
Hi Debussyman,
Congratulations with your OSITM award! And good luck with the bridge.
Congrats for the OSITM and nice project you began ;)
Congratulation on the OSITM! &apls
i often lurked into Your thread before but as i´m no BATist, i only can say that i really like Your work. I don´t know how much of Your BATs lay in my current downloads folder, it´s filled alone with Your framework houses and a lot of churches. And i never played this game without minimum a good handful of them. :)
BTW: i appreciate to give BATting and lotting threads a place in the OSITM. Both programs are essential parts of the game itself, so we were and are playing with the BAT and the LE. Customizing is what we do - we can´t live without. So to light up BAT- and lot-artists and their "studios" do only approach the game from a different but very interesting and important angle. Thanks for this. :thumbsup:
Greetz, Carl
Congratulations on the OSITM!
The bridge looks lovely already!
Congrats on becoming OSITM.
The bridge is looking fine already, can't wait to see it textured and outfitted with the statues. Do you plan to make a street bridge version as well? I hope so ;)
Also, Warren mentioned (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=14262.msg423141#msg423141) these terraces (http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8378/dbterr.jpg) are yours. Can I expect to see these on the LEX anytime or get hold of them otherwise ? They'll make a nice addition to my city (what else, right? $%Grinno$%).
A huge congrats to you and your phenomenal work and getting it in the spot light. As Schulmanator already said above....your work is of special interest every month.
Congrats again.
Robin
Thanks to all!
Xannepan: now I see what you mean. I'll give it a try.
For now I'm playing with the values to get the bridge right. But I don't fully understand how it works. For example, when I increase the SupportInterval value it puts more supports pieces next to each other. If I lower down to 1 it still puts at least 2 support pieces together on certain lenghts, as well as a start piece and support piece together. What do I have to modify to get more repeat pieces next to each other? ()what()
The texturing is done. Still have to make the start piece and figure out the values I have to modify to make it work.
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One more question: ¿How do I make my own bridge? Right now I'm just using the tutorial file. I just have to change the ID to a new one or do I have to do something else? also, who do I contact to get my own ID range?
For the IDs you may contact threestooges.
Also have a look at the bridge engineering department in the forums. Lot's of info and tutorials there about modding etc.
I,ll have to dive into how the different parameters actually worked... Forgot about the details :S
I believe Matt (threestooges) or Alex (Tarkus) are the best people to ask. Try PMing them both asking the question.
BTW, Great work!!
Robin
Thank you both, I've sent Matt a PM.
For now I've got it to work the way I want it:
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Congratulations! Well done.
If I may give one more suggestion, you may want to extend the supports below the water level :-)
Question: did you render this is bat(gmax) or in 3ds max? I see some jagged edges (may be gmax or just jpeg compression, i can't tell). In any case, if you didn't know or do it already: you can use 3ds max for bridges. Just render the LODS in gmax with the correct TGI IDs and then select model name and render it in 3ds max as you would do with any other building.
How does it look if the bridge width is one more tile wider then in your image? Did you manage to have the repeat piece show up correcly?
-alex
Quote from: xannepan on June 05, 2012, 09:30:03 PM
If I may give one more suggestion, you may want to extend the supports below the water level :-)
Question: did you render this is bat(gmax) or in 3ds max? I see some jagged edges (may be gmax or just jpeg compression, i can't tell). In any case, if you didn't know or do it already: you can use 3ds max for bridges. Just render the LODS in gmax with the correct TGI IDs and then select model name and render it in 3ds max as you would do with any other building.
How does it look if the bridge width is one more tile wider then in your image? Did you manage to have the repeat piece show up correcly?
The supports already extend 20m below the surface. ;) Maybe the missing water effect makes it look as if it doesn't touch the water.
I used 3ds max, the jagged edges are from the game compression, not much I can do ()sad()
As for the repeats, I followed your suggestion, couldn't get it to fit perfectly, but I think it looks good enough:
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This development is looking very good. &apls
Maybe you need some kind of special landing model? I don't know anything about bridge BATting, but I have the feeling that bridges have special start and end pieces.
Outstanding work on the bridge &apls &apls
If you continue doing bridge work it would be really nice to see a nice new avenue bridge!
Keep up the outstanding work!
The bridge is now on the STEX. I have in mind several other bridges I'd like to make, but those will have to wait.
Right now I wish to finish my "Big 3" projects before the summer is over. That is: Escorial, Versailles and the Louvre.
Currently I've started with the facade of the Escorial. Minding that my thread is being featured I'll try to post my daily progress log here so everyone can see exacly how is my workflow and see how it progreses little by little.
June 18th:
-First floor of central facade almost done.
-Started central facade second floor.
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It's great to have that bridge and I'm really glad you plan on continuing with more of them.
Your "Big 3" sounds really big!
I'm glad you've decided to post your daily progress. That will be a nice way for me to understand how these beautiful buildings can be made and how the BAT process works. Great start on Escorial so far &apls
Hi Debussyman,
It's not only that I admire you and other BATters for being so exact and tedious in reproducing all the details in a historical building, it is more that I ask myself: how do you know how to do it? Did you make pictures of every detail in a building in order to make them in your modelling program? Do you use large images of the whole facade and do you copy the large elements and do you just guess or fantasize about the smaller details? And how do you know the sizes of all elements?
It would really interest me how you work and where you get the information of the real building.
Frank
Very beautiful bridge. Thank you for making it. &apls
And Moscow's Christ Savior church !!! :P
Thanks all!
Quote from: FrankU on June 19, 2012, 12:50:59 AM
Did you make pictures of every detail in a building in order to make them in your modelling program? Do you use large images of the whole facade and do you copy the large elements and do you just guess or fantasize about the smaller details? And how do you know the sizes of all elements?
Frank
Actually, I do all of that ;D I usually have a large main picture that covers the entire building as reference (in the case of escorial I have plans), and then I also have detailed pictures of each element, which once modeled, I adjust to fit the main picture. If I don't have an image of the entire building, I model it by sections and then using cross-multiplication I adjust the proportions so everything fits with everything else. Here's a pic of my front Max view so you get in idea of the porocess:
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@Giraffe: That doesn't count as Big project... but I'll be working on it here and there in between my main focus. Don't worry, it will be done ;)
Any other questions of how I made a specific thing or process you'd like to know please feel free to ask. :)
June 19th:
-Finished center front facade
-Started secondary front facade.
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master craftsmanship!
Grand master of batting for sure :)
I can't think of anything to say, so: &apls &apls &apls &apls
Thanks to the three of you :)
June 20th:
-Finished front facade.
-Added front courtyards.
-Added Towers and Chapel facade.
-Started working on roofing.
-Started working on King's Courtyard.
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It's really great to be able to see this beauty take shape! Fantastic &apls &apls
Incredible!
Wow!!! :o This level of detail goes unrivaled by almost all BATters; it's spectacular!! :)
~DC
Thanks for your comments :thumbsup:
Not much advancet today &mmm
June 21st:
-Finished the Kings' Courtyard.
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Thanks for sharing the progress ;)
Amazing work in the BAT &apls
Looks great. &apls &apls &apls
What progress you make. You are sure working fast.
Really phenomenal work!! You continue to churn out top notch work. Like Framly said, thanks for sharing your progress! :thumbsup:
Wonderful work. It's great to see the planning stages of things (your background reference pictures) as well as seeing the progress on the actual work. It's coming together nicely. What's the current poly count on the model?
-Matt
" not so much advance " , I just finished modelling the interior courtyard..
That thing would have taken one week here. You're fast Carlos! ;)
Thanks, you are all very kind!
@Matt: Right now I'm at 226890
Another slow day &mmm
June 22nd:
-Started Cloister.
To vary things, here's a wireframe render:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi232.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee249%2FDebussyman%2FescoJn22bis.png&hash=d6a1b2ddef3420fb57fb4cc6f0f106df14383d40)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi232.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee249%2FDebussyman%2FEscoJn22.png&hash=a07f74715002a91e6b6e5482d856b9e4417a8029)
Remarkable, There's so much detail going into the building! ;D
I can only imagine how useful the "array" tool must be in projects like this. The poly count is actually smaller than I thought given the relative scale and complexity of things so far.
-Matt
I am waiting about the texture advancement and tuto :)
What an huge project. It truly looks amazing already. &apls
Thanks all!
@Matt: indeed... the array tool is my best friend ()stsfd()
@Giraffe: Textures are soon to come... but I have to say I don't know what tutorial are you referring to ()what()
June 23rd:
-Started the Tempietto of the evangelists:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi232.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee249%2FDebussyman%2FescoJn23b.png&hash=ae554e679e000e55846c4706c90d89a47675928f)
June 24th:
-Finished royal residence courtyard
-Started texturing
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AMAZING! it is extremely realistic... and its not even finished yet...
Amazing work again &apls
Looks great.
You sure are working fast.
Good work with the first textures, looks really really promising! ;)
Lovely work, your work is so great debussy!!
Well I have a little proposal to make, without compromise If you want a new adventure after you finish your projects, you can bet this building: National Palace of Mafra, Portugal. The largest and most important baroque building in Portugal.
It's just a small suggestion! Continue the excellent work.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.exercito.pt%2FEP%2FPublishingImages%2Fmonumentos%2Fpalacio5-MAFRA.jpg&hash=d833f71cb9f757f5af5ab2c00bfef0f2820e2bbb)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efotospt.com%2Fcomponents%2Fcom_joomgallery%2Fimg_pictures%2Fas_minhas_fotos_1%2FPanoramica_Convento_Mafra.jpg&hash=989a39bf2f5d533bece1d65914286be237621112)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-SRkzG_8KlOw%2FTV-U0skJf9I%2FAAAAAAAAC-E%2FDtZA6NeahIs%2Fs1600%2FMafra%252B5.JPG&hash=fea75c40ddd81fd7b7f465cd900169c66653fa9e)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestculturaltours.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2FMafra-Palacio-de-Mafra-.jpg&hash=48f18297abd5273db6a6f4eb2c29b36ad863ba9f)
Congratulations
Fantastic work Debussy! :thumbsup:
Looking forward to see it finished!
Any news on the Louvre?
Regards Iskrem
Thank you all!
@nelsonunes: I think Mafra is a beautiful place... sadly I have no time to start another big project like that, so it is unlikely I'll make it. ()sad()
@Iskrem: THe louvre is on the to do list for this summer... so keep tuned :)
Right now I got a little worn out with the Escorial... so I started a smaller project while I get inspired to continue.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi232.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee249%2FDebussyman%2FNicolasprev.png&hash=f96f651ce6abc4cc1a844f1be5ba0c19314e5b34)
I already like it :)
What praject is that Debussy?? Seems beautiful
Hmmm can't wait to see more!
One of my all time favourite BATers! Keep up the beautiful work. :)
New project looks very nice &apls Spectacular job in OSITM &apls &apls
Thanks all for your comments!
nelsonunes: It is the Nicholas church in Amsterdam
Started on the Dome:
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Nice ()stsfd()
I really adore your detailed work :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Yes Finally !! we will have the Nicholas church !! I can't wait to use it on my Dutch city. I hope my pictures can help you with this hard BAT my friend &apls &apls
You repeatedly take on some of the most complex buildings in the world and do these stunning recreations of them. Absolutely amazing. &apls
Thanks, Flatron and Whatevermind.
Kelis: Your pictures are being of great help, thanks!
Now, I have a consultation to make. After so many days of seing pictures from all angles, I just realized the towers of the church are not in line, but one is further than the other to fit the diagonal street it is on. My question is... would you rather have the towers in-line or should I make it exactly as it is with one tower further than the other???
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In my opinion, it will looks great with the tower not in line.
I agree, leave the towers out of line.
The problem is that this is supposed to be a W2W building, making them out of line would mean it won't be possible to fit in that setting. I could also do both version, one of them overhanging to fit W2W diagonals. :satisfied:
That looks more like a FAR (Fractionally Angled Road) than a 45 degree diagonal. Not that this makes any real difference to the basic point.
This church has a different location of the rest of the normal churches, it is a w2w church and it is not normal for a church with those dimensions so I think the better is make two versions because I think a lot of people would like use the church in a normal location, I mean in a open place to recreate a normal place for a church like this !
I prefer the w2w version because I love the real location of this church between the canal and street :)
Keep up the amazing work my friend !!
Hi Debussyman, I wanted to request the London Houses of Parliament. I know we already have Big Ben but on it's own, it looks, well, kind of plain. I'd love you to BAT Westminster Abbey and maybe Big Ben too. I actually came from SimPeg 4, but they sent me here.Sorry if this isn't the right place to post it. Here's the link to the original thread:
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Hi DebussyMan,
First of all let me thank you for all the great work you are doing here! I'm always looking forward to new amazing projects of yours.
Regarding the towers - I would agree with the opinion of having two versions to satisfy the majority of possible placements.
@Glazert: True, it isn't at 45 degrees, but I don't think there are any W2W's on other angles ()sad()
@kelis: Thanks, I'll obviously make a stardard W2W version to fit the current Amsterdam set...
@Hahey: The houses of parliament are already on the make by another BATer. Westminster is in my wish-list, hopefully I'll get to it some day.
@7otago1998: Thanks. I'll try my best to do both versions.
Setting aside the towers issue. Here's a little advance on the texturing:
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DebussyMan the towers look great! I hate to think where the community would be at without the great BAT's you and others continue to produce. As usual with your high quality work, a must D/L for me once it's complete!
Wow!, those towers look amazing ()stsfd()! BTW, which BATter is making them?
Fantastic job carlos ! I can't wait to see the entire building &apls &apls
Great looking textures! As usual with our master. :)
Great job ;)
Hahei: Yoder was working on it ;)
Back to El Escorial. Started working on the Basilica. I'm actually considering making a Basilica-only version. I would have to make up the bottom of the side walls as they are not visible on the real one.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi232.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee249%2FDebussyman%2FBasilicaEsco.png&hash=cc76133a9b9af5fab856dd2624441c33dfb2291c)
this is really a gorgious project and perfect looking like always! &apls
Taking shape :)
Thank you both :)
More on the Nicholas Church (it's been harder than expected):
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Just for fun, here's the one that comes in Cities XL to compare. This is exactly what worries my about the new all-3d simcity, the detail goes down the drain ()sad()
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I do like your textures on this... very detailed and attractive.
Amazing job with the textures my friend !! which will be the size in the game?
Seems to be another promising BAT ;)
Quote from: kelis on July 17, 2012, 01:58:00 AM
Amazing job with the textures my friend !! which will be the size in the game?
I'd say the same size as the last one.
Looks promising, Carlos!
Great job!!!! &apls I can't wait to use it in my cities!!!
Thanks all!
The Church is now on the STEX. Final size is 2x5.
Very nice &apls &apls
btw.: would it be possible for you top make a version with white plastered walls instead of the bricks? :) It would look even better then.
Thanks flatron.
You mean something like this?
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The Sint Nicolaaskerk turned out great &apls
Though I must say Flatron made a great suggestion, the plastered version certainly has its charm to it. Hope it'll be released as well. :thumbsup:
Come back to Christ Savior? ::)
Would you consider doing on of Wren's churches? It would be right up your street :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Christopher_Wren_churches_in_London
That's exactly what I meant :thumbsup: superb! &apls &apls
The plastered version looks much more central/south european :)
Thanks Carlos for this great bat, I love it !!
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Here you can see the church on my city ;)
@vortext and flatron: I'll render the white version and upload it to the LEX among my batch of pendant buildings...
@Girafe: Almost done there... ;)
@toxicpiano: I've always found interesting the works of Wren, but they are son many! do you have a special one in mind?
@Kelis: glado you liked it! the picture looks amazing, and the setting is perfect... ;D
You're right, it's a tough one! I would say either St James Garlickhythe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_James_Garlickhythe) or St Clement Danes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Clement_Danes_Church)
St. James is pretty stripped back and simple in style, whereas St. James is quite a bit more detailed and elaborate, I quite like the contrast there. :)
Quote from: toxicpiano on July 19, 2012, 03:08:44 PM
Would you consider doing on of Wren's churches? It would be right up your street :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Christopher_Wren_churches_in_London
I would love it if you did too. Great work on your latest by the way.
If I may piggyback on toxicpiano's request, I'd like to suggest making a new, properly-scaled version of Wren's most famous church - St. Paul's Cathedral. The existing NDEX BAT of it is tragically underscaled, and my attempts at rescaling it via SC4 Model Tweaker were unappealing. With your extraordinary skills at modeling classical architecture, I'm sure you'd more than do it justice. I'm in awe every time you upload another of your outstanding BATs!
Congratulations DebussyMan!
This is another great work of yours. The details are stunning as is always in your models.
May I ask, how are the Louvre and Escorial are progressing?
Thank you, please keep up the amazing work you are doing.
@toxicpiano and WannGLondon: I'll take these into account. I also like St. Mary-le-Strand, even though it's not Wren's.
@woodb3kmaster: I certainly have tought of it, I even have gathered a few reference pictures and plans, but, as with other projects, it's the neverending song: I still have lots of unfinished projects I need to get over with before attempting new big projects. ()sad()
@7otago1998: Haven't touched El Escorial since my last update. A couple of weeks ago I advanced a little on the Louvre... but still a lot to go.
Awesome work, you can tell you are called Carlos :P Ya, that's my name too :P
Can I leave a suggestion or two?
Conventro de Mafra (https://www.google.com/search?q=Convento+de+mafra&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:pt-PT:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=pt-PT&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=Ez8_UKvyKcLMhAeizYGwBw&biw=1024&bih=580&sei=GT8_UP-IIoqb0QX5lIGICQ)
Mosteiro da Batalha (https://www.google.com/search?q=Convento+de+mafra&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:pt-PT:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=pt-PT&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=Ez8_UKvyKcLMhAeizYGwBw&biw=1024&bih=580&sei=GT8_UP-IIoqb0QX5lIGICQ#um=1&hl=pt-PT&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:pt-PT%3Aofficial&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Mosteiro+da+Batalha&oq=Mosteiro+da+Batalha&gs_l=img.3..0l2j0i24l8.44953.47490.0.47826.19.10.0.9.9.0.152.994.6j4.10.0...0.0...1c.RoxByHGJQ9M&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=8c9603f3435aa0b8&biw=1024&bih=580)
Mosteiro dos Jeronimos (https://www.google.com/search?q=Convento+de+mafra&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:pt-PT:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=pt-PT&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=Ez8_UKvyKcLMhAeizYGwBw&biw=1024&bih=580&sei=GT8_UP-IIoqb0QX5lIGICQ#um=1&hl=pt-PT&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:pt-PT%3Aofficial&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Mosteiro+Jeronimos&oq=Mosteiro+Jeronimos&gs_l=img.3..0j0i24l6.40872.46143.2.46320.18.18.0.0.0.0.102.1458.17j1.18.0...0.0...1c.0BXXcaebRmg&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=8c9603f3435aa0b8&biw=1024&bih=580)
Maybe you like some of them :D
and if you need help just say :)
Hi Carlos. Will you release this version soon? (http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee249/Debussyman/whiteniko.jpg) :)
gn_leugim: I love portuguese architecture, but Manuelino is such a hard style to make! straight french gothic is hard already, mix it up with moorish and baroque and you've got something really difficult to BAT. I've considered smaller buildings like Torre de Belém. But those large convents are way out of my possibilities. ()sad()
jeckyll: I'll try to upload it to the LEX this weekend ;)
acording to wiki, Convento de Mafra is barroque only, and it has not many details on it's façades. it is undoubtedly huge! :-[
but anyway, thanks for taking a look :)
I've uploaded the white version of the Nicholas Church to the LEX.
A w2w based on a building in Andrassy Avenue in Budapest made for roundabouts (overhanging prop):
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi232.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee249%2FDebussyman%2FBudapestAndr.png&hash=8bfdd1dfc53c8c33399e9835868cd7cc8e780b04)
Looks really nice ;)
Roundabout buildings are desperately needed! And it is in my favorite style. I love Budapest... great city with great food!
fantastic and very usefull one! &apls love it
Thank you all. :)
Naturally, I also think roundabout buildings are needed, but it is really hard to find examples in real life of concave buildings of this style (XIX-XX century academic, central-europe-english-parisian, etc.) that fit in the SC4 avenue roundabout.
If there are any suggestions, please post some pictures for inspiration :satisfied:
Looks like a great building with some very fine details!
"Rond point des Champs Elysées" & "Rond point de l'étoile" in Paris, you will find buildings like this. Pictures could be found on the tab aerial view of pagesjaunes.fr and you can tried google street view. If more pics needed I will take them myself.
A possibility...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Circus_%28Bath%29
Excellent building and extremely useful &apls Besides being a much-needed fit for the avenue roundabouts, this is to my knowledge the first such building that will fit OWR roundabouts. It's also much higher quality than anything with a similar fit that I've seen. I can't think of more concave buildings off the top of my head, though I'll let you know if I do. What about convex-curved buildings that are overhanging so they can fit closely to the roundabout? I imagine there's more real life examples of that :thumbsup:
Very nice!!! &apls &apls &apls
What a great idea and perfectly executed! &apls
Hope to see more of these wonderfull buildings! :thumbsup:
Really nice roundabout building, it looks great in an old town. :thumbsup:
Lol, just went to the STEX, and it was on the front page.
Just some ispirations from Berlin:
Viktoria-Luise-Platz
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/8/8f/Viktoria-Luise-Platz_1908.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/8/8f/Viktoria-Luise-Platz_1908.jpg)
http://static3.akpool.de/images/cards/9/93656.jpg (http://static3.akpool.de/images/cards/9/93656.jpg)
Hmm, do I smell a "Berlin W2W pack 2" being cooked? ;)
five :sunny: (sun is a star so.. ^^)
debussy, Por favor no dejes el Escorial solo en la basílica, vamos amigo, tú puedes hacerlo todo, aunque no le pongas tantos detalles.
debussy, Please don't leave The Escorial only in the Basilica, Come on Friend, You can do it everything, though you don't add many details.
Lo siento no había visto que ya habías empezado las fachadas, tengo mucho que no visito Capitalsimcity donde yo te pedí que hicieras El Escoria, Disculpame por no estar al tanto, que buenos avances tienes:
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Finally got some time to retake my projects.
Here's a teaser from El Escorial.
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Nice progress! This will be great when finished. :)
I ran out of superlatives to describe your work a long time ago ... &apls
Looks amazing as always! Keep it up :)
It looks beautiful :o
<**** mode=on> The glass needs more reflection <**** mode=off> :D :D
Carlos, as always, breathtaking.
Not necessary-Robin
Spoilsport :P
Thanks for your comments!
Today I finished texturing the Basilica:
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Looks splendid, Carlos. :)
This looks awesome! &apls
I'm drooling :o &apls
Perfect! :thumbsup:
Great textures make a great BAT even greater! :thumbsup:
Almost done... just missing a few sculptures and Nitelights.
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increible! &apls another masterpiece of your splendid work! whats next?
The sheer scale and magnificence of this building - and of your work on it!
Amazing building! It surely is a masterpiece again. :thumbsup: Is it possible to export this one as one piece or does it have to be cut in two or more pieces?
Looking forward to this one! &apls &apls &apls
Incredibly huge. Modeling and texturing are top.
*dies*
SC4D has proven that I am a feline, I clearly have nine lives! (and need them, given the awesomeness that puts me out here every time!) Wow!
&apls
An incredible work of art.
El maestro batting again ::)
Wonderful work :o
Mind-blowing.
So, who's the king here. Carlos or Juan Carlos? ;D
Cheers
Willy
I like particularly the roofs, but in the overall, it is just awesome!
Thank you all for your comments... your kind words certainly help moving through huge projects like this.
I was able to render it all in one single chunk... now it is ready to download on the STEX.
My plan is to finish my other big projects in the upcoming months (Versailles and The Louvre). Maybe a little building that catches my attention in between.
I was the first to download it :)
And it is fantastic!!!! Looking forward to the louvre and Versailles!
Quote from: DebussyMan on February 13, 2013, 11:07:53 PM
My plan is to finish my other big projects in the upcoming months (Versailles and The Louvre) & russian statues :P
Great to hear that you'll present us versailles and the louvre! &apls
As far as projects for in between go, what about a smaller scale, plastered baroque church from austria? Like for example Karmelitenkirche in Linz? I always found that there are not enough plastered and coloured churches for simcity. Most are Sandstone ore Brick, which is sad...
No comment ???... Just a masterpiece, thank you for all the hard work! :thumbsup:
That is beautiful. Simply stunning! &apls
Thank you all!
@Giraffe: That's next on my list ;)
@Flatron: Such builings have been on my mind for some time... however, I'm not very fond of the Karmelitenkirche because it is W2W and lacks a bell tower (I want to make some bulbs ;) ). I was thinking something more like St. Koloman or Ehrenhausen:
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If you have any other suggestions, they'd be welcome.
I vote for Ehrenhausen! I have actually been to that one (pix: http://www.schulmania.info/2011sv_files/gallery02.htm). I would be thrilled to see it in game!
That's nice. I think Ehrenhausen would be great, but what about Pfarrkirche St. Paul in Passau
So maybe bot? What would be great is the famous Karlskirche in Vienna, which is sadly enough painted white...
@Schulmanator: That settles it then, Ehrenhausen it is.
Though, I guess I can make both... St. Koloman is very easy, Ehrenhausen not so much, but it is small.
@Flatron:St. Paul is nice too. About Karlskirche, I started it some yearse ago and I still have the model; my problem with it was the math with the elliptical dome, but I think I might be able to solve it now.
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WOO HOO!!!
The town is very quaint as well. And a lovely winery is nearby. It's a lovely spot. And we do need more of that style in our cities. I look forward to it. :D
wha not a Berlin one? :( ...
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Sophienkirche
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Parochialkirche
or Potsdam? ...
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Garnisonkirche
:P
saludos
Peter
I don't know, but they are built in a prussian-protestant way that is not really baroque, I think... And there are not many Bats from austria...
whoaww... %confuso I was just impressed... :satisfied: &apls wonder full...
A little Park featuring the Tempietto of El Escorial (aviable on the LEX)
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Looks lovely, Carlos. Glad to see you haven't lost your touch.
Agreed!!! That looks awesome and would be a great center peice for anyone's park.
Robin
A little thing, but gives a lot of happiness :thumbsup:
Very pretty little building. &apls
Gorgeous. :thumbsup:
a very nice one :thumbsup:
Good job! It looks like it will be a good park for the grounds of a civic building. :)
Nice one :)
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Pleasee Debussyyyy I love this building!!
Hilton Hotel in Chicago!
In a few days it will be the 9th anniversary of my first BAT, to commemorate the occasion, I've decided to revisit one of my earliest (and dearest) models, my City's Cathedral:
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Here's the original version:
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Some texturing:
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Wow, that's quite an improvement compared to the original! &apls
Can't wait to see the overhaul completed! :thumbsup:
Improvement indeed! Awesome.
Wow!!! What a difference :)
I will second what the others says.
That is an improvement. &apls &apls &apls
Almost done!
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Looks very promising! :D
Quote from: DebussyMan on April 05, 2014, 05:21:07 PM
Almost done!
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Hmmm i have THEEE perfect tenants for this establishment. i like it!
Wow :o Amazing texturing (and modelling) &apls
omg..... love those textures and details.......... :shocked2:
Carlos, I almost can only second what has already been said... excellent model and texturing (fab work on the stonework!). &apls
There are two things I would suggest though, both concerning the roof. First, I think that there could be some more variety to the roof texture, it looks a bit to uniform, especially when compared how detailed the stonework texture on the chuch's front is. Second, the roof is quite big and dominating the building and apart from height differences of the aisles and the top of the vaults, there is indeed few that catches the eye. Telling from Google Earth pictures this is not to far from reality, but there seem to be kind of stairs between the vaults of the central aisle, that could definately give more visual variety to your model as well. Also, there seems to be a roof access (?) ontop of the southern entrance of the transept.
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(blue = stairs, green = possible access)
But this is really high-level criticism, and I kinda guess it's on your to-do-list anyway already. ;)
Also, big kudos to you for all your brilliant work you did during my absence. &apls &apls &apls
Thanks, Lars. I was actually going to leave it as-is thinking noone would notice, but I was proved wrong. ;)
I had the intention to give a uniform texture to the roof to avoid drawing attention away from the facades. But I guess a little more bussyness wouldn't hurt.
This is my final version:
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Ah, splendid, this much better! Nothing more to complain about. $%Grinno$%
that is just a wow! sort of model... well done :thumbsup:
The roof is even better now, thanks for uploading! :thumbsup:
Great work Carlos. Stunning. :thumbsup:
looks fabulous Carlos,
What about this russian church ::)
@Giraffe: I completely forgot! I'll get back to it asap ;)
Meanwhile, my next project under construction:
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I always thought that at some point, you would go for the British Parlament =P dont know why... lol!
Anyways.. great work buddy! &apls
Huh, nice! Guess it's the Marienkirche from Lübeck, probably the finest work of brick gothic in the world. &apls
Excellent work and exciting new project &apls
Debussy, Carlos
Te agradezco infinitamente por el Escorial que yo te pedí y que tuviste a bien concederme, me parece que la catedral de Mérida te quedó perfecta respecto de la catedral real de la Blanca Mérida.
Gracias por tu arduo trabajo, y abusando un poco de tu maestría, humildemente me atrevo a sugerirte 5 proyectos ( :( perdón pero solo tú podrías ejecutarlos) Me refiero a que hasta ahora has realizado 2 de las 7 catedrales que se concedieron por parte del Papa a inicios de la conquista de México y que iniciaron su construcción como catedrales en el siglo XVI, a decir:
Catedral de México (already done Masterpiece of masterpieces)
Catedral de Mérida (already done Masterpiece)
Catedral de Puebla
Catedral de la Nueva Valladolid (Morelia)
Catedral de San Cristobal (Chiapas)
Catedral de Oaxaca
Catedral de Guadalajara
Te dejo fotografías de estas 5 catedrales que completarían el juego de las 7 Catedrales que constituyeron los núcleos de evangelización de México:
Catedral de Puebla:
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Fachada_Norte_de_la_Catedral_de_Puebla.jpg
Catedral de Morelia:
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Catedral de San Cristobal De Las Casas
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http://www.rutasdelcacao.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/San-Cristobal-Catedral.jpg
Catedral de Oaxaca
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Catedral de Guadalajara
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Saludos Carlos, eres el más grande y lo sabes, y Gracias por el Escorial
Hola Jorge_Carrillo, muchas gracias por tus amables palabras. Por supuesto que las grandes catedrales de México están en mi lista, aunque la vida real me deja muy poco tiempo (y energías) para modelar. La catedral de Puebla ya está en obras de cimentación ;) La de Oaxaca es la siguiente que haría, hace poco la visité y tengo ya mucho material fotográfico. La de morelia me parece que ya fue hecha por Hableurg, La de San Cristóbal se ve bastante interesante. Sin embargo, la de Guadalajara está fuera de mi lista, aunque la planta inicial posiblemente fue de gran calidad, el resultado final a través de los siglos no es de mi agrado, me parece un pastiche neoclásico pobremente ejecutado. ()sad()
Quote from: DebussyMan on September 06, 2014, 08:52:00 PM
Hola Jorge_Carrillo, muchas gracias por tus amables palabras. Por supuesto que las grandes catedrales de México están en mi lista, aunque la vida real me deja muy poco tiempo (y energías) para modelar. La catedral de Puebla ya está en obras de cimentación ;) La de Oaxaca es la siguiente que haría, hace poco la visité y tengo ya mucho material fotográfico. La de morelia me parece que ya fue hecha por Hableurg, La de San Cristóbal se ve bastante interesante. Sin embargo, la de Guadalajara está fuera de mi lista, aunque la planta inicial posiblemente fue de gran calidad, el resultado final a través de los siglos no es de mi agrado, me parece un pastiche neoclásico pobremente ejecutado. ()sad()
Que gusto que estés pensando en la grandiosa catedral de Puebla, una verdadera Joya, Y de la catedral de Oaxaca, otra hermosa catedral que junto a la catedral de México y de Puebla comparte la distribución propia del Rito Toledano de la España renacentisata, El caso de la catedral de Morelia es un gran proyecto y no se si tú sabes donde lo puedo encontrar proque si ya está hecho es otra de esas Joyas del barroco mexicano.
Respecto de la de Guadalajara, La pobre Catedral de Guadalajara es una catedral que se hizo muy humildemente en sus inicios porque en Guadalajara no había ni minas, ni industria henequenera, y por muchos siglos Guadalajara fue una ciudad más pequeña que Puebla, Morelia y que hasta la misma Mérida de modo que su catedral era pobre porque sus parroquianos también eran pobres, A eso hay que sumarle que los continuos temblores se encargaban de continuamente destruirle sus torres o campanarios lo que casi obligaba a que la catedral tuviese unas torres del estilo de la catedral de Oaxaca o de plano no tenerlas como la catedral de San Cristobal. Sin embargo La fuerza de Jalisco fue su campo, sus haciendas que producían ganado abundante y eso incrementó la actividad comercial de la ciudad a principios del siglo XIX, cuando en un terremoto de 1818 la catedral de Guadalajara perdió sus antiguas torres. Para colmo cuando Miguel Hidalgo llegó a Guadalajara, llegó sin dinero y lo que hizo fue derretir el altar de plata de la catedral y acuñar monedas, en cierto modo la catedral de Guadalajara fue victima de la independencia de México, antes de la independéncia de México el pobres aspecto de la catedral de guadalajara quedó así:
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Las torres originales de la catedral de esta provinciana ciudad agricola de 5000 habitantes eran así:
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Cuando finalmente México logró su independencia se inició la construcción unas nuevas torres, que también fueron destruidas en un terremoto de 1849, y solo hasta 1854 se terminaron las actuales torres y se continuó con la conclusión del sagrario metropolitano, que se hizo netamente en estilo neoclásico.
Las nuevas torres se diseñaron para darle notoriedad sin que por ello se respetara el estilo arquitectónico austero que correspondía a la catedral gemela de la catedral de Mérida. Sí, así es, la catedral de Guadalajara inició su construcción al mismo tiempo que la catedral de Mérida y con el mismo desplante y con el mismo diseño de tres naves de igual altura que posee la catedral de Mérida, en parte porque este diseño no requería columnas tan fuertes ni contrafuertes tan pesados que soportaran la alta bóveda central y que transmitieran la carga a las bóvedas laterales y estas a su vez a las capillas laterales adosadas al salón prinicpal.
Si lo quieres ver así, estóy disculpando un poco el aspecto de la catedral de Guadalajara que fue resultado de la continua búsqueda de un estilo que diese notoriedad a una ciudad que quería destacar pero que no tenía recursos para hacerlo y que cuando finalmente tuvo prosperidad tuvo que adoptar y adaptar un estilo que era el de la época.
Pongamoslo de este punto de vista, La catedral de Guadalajara es más antigua que más del 95% de todas las poblaciones de Estados Unidos. la primera piedra se colocó en 1561 un año antes que la de Mérida.
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