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Title: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on February 21, 2009, 10:45:49 AM
First let me tell you that I am new to posting and handling a thread on SC4D, so I hope you will give me the time needed to get acquainted with all the features. Some patience will be necessary please.Then I would like to thank the moderators and Admins of this site to have helped us sofar to get this CJ/ going. Thank you all.

Now, let's introduce you to this fun-challenge



                2 Nations, 1 Region and many Mayors    


The Challenge is back.....
      The Challenge is on....
            Are you ready for the Next Generation of GRV?

mrbisonm and Lynncanox are presenting you the 2nd GRV challenge.

                           [size=10pt]««* BORDERTOWN *»»[/size]


Some of you might remember my last year's Grand River Valley (GRV) Challenge from Simtropolis, if not you should take a look at least at the first three pages of this thread on ST first:
 http://www.simtropolis.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=36&threadid=96453&STARTPAGE=1

After popular demand from both Sites, we bring you another Challenge of one region and many mayors. Again, this will bring you fun and fun and nothing but more fun. Whether you are a real pro at playing or just a lousy beginner, you are welcome to play with us and enjoy, learn how and have fun with a whole community. When joining us, you will become a member of our GRV family and play your head off to show your best Simcity skills whether you can handle it or not. The worst that can happen is that you'll have some fun and learn a few things. Hm...did I mention that we're going to have fun? ;)

The rules will be less strict this time, more pliable, stretchable and more interesting in this second challenge. But there will be a certain timeline to update and post for each participating player, which will absolutely have to be respected this time. The gallows in Simcity's Capitalia are built for those who can't achieve this small demand. This timeline is of a longer period though, respecting everyone's real life conditions. If you do not have some time to have fun, please don't join, but by visiting and commenting you might have some of our fun also. Who knows, you might become the number One spectator.....

Some rules have been set already, not all, we will need some help from you later. Also the regions have not been selected yet. I have three choices and I think I will let you choose the one you want. We'll get to that later.

As you all probably know, it is quite a job to handle this challenge. Although we are two at the moment, my wife Lynn and I, there might come a time that we need someone else to help us out. I hope we can count on you. All that depends on the quantity of folks joining to this challenge. We will let you know.......

Now, before you scream....."I want to..I want to....I'm in".. let me tell you that you need to think it over twice before confirming  your participation please and do NOT confirm here in this thread, there will be another place for this later.  Remember, the whole challenge will take a few months, 2 or 3 or so (or maybe even more) and it will take some citytile building with respecting certain rules of playing and updating. The GRV challenge no 2 is going to be a little easier and shorter, but not less fun. If you have decided and are sure to become a member of GRV II, let us know and we'll put you on the list of those to be harshly *simcitytreated* for the next months.

Concerning the rules, they will be written out in a few days/weeks or so and will be posted here. I will ask you to tweak them with me, kinda smooth them out a little to fit your playing style or made more understandable, add or delete some of them and maybe make them more or less demanding and imposing. Your opinion counts, but it will be our last word that will be burned into the Rules-sheet.(We own the laser to burn) We are open to everything that is logical and has potential in having....well.....fun.

Final Rules need to be respected or else the Governor himself will handle your case.(That's me)

The maps will be presented and chosen by you in a couple of days, I am still terraforming one of the smaller maps. Three different regions are to be chosen from, all in medium tiles for easier gameplay, one slightly bigger than the others. Once finished, the one chosen will be uploaded so you can download it, it will be a sc4m file that you can easily render with SC Terraformer or SC4Mapper. It is a region entirely handformed with the ingame godtools just like the first GRV or ALL my other maps.

Like I said, GRV II will be slightly different and this year's theme is called *Bordertown*.  I suppose that you have a slight idea of what it could or should be, and you're probably right, but it also has a baggage attached to it that comes with this idea, and that will be explained in details when we show you the regionmaps. It took us some time to think it over and hopefully you will like it.(or maybe even love it)..... ;)

I hereby recommend that you read the first three pages of our first GRV Challenge now or when you got the time on Simtropolis, just to get a good basic idea of how this will work. Some small changes have been made, different and less severe rules and some slighlty different challenges or ways to build certain *things*. There might even be some choices to choose from....Whether or not you join in a specific challenge, I am sure you will have a great time with us and remember, good or not with SC4 doesn't change anything. It might not be the best player who wins.

Points and penalties will be given and every two weeks or so be updated and announced in a special report post. At the end of the challenge bonus points/ penalties will be calculated to a total and the Grand Winner of this Challenge be announced and crowned. You will then bear the title of the 2009 GRV Challenger or Runner-up. For 2008 it is respectively BarbyW who bears the title forever.

Hoping to see lots of you, and I can't wait to meet you all. We also hope to see some known faces from last year.

Have Fun with Nexis! Fun, is what we're after!....I think I mentioned that before....hm.

lynncanox and mrb

Oh, I forgot to say.....lol....to give you all an extra challenge to handle and hopefully stress you a bit already.....I myself, the Governor of GRV I and II and the 57 regions thread including NoG, will participate this time, and unfortunetly for me, you all will be my judge and decide on my earned positive and negative points. Just be fair for the better or the worse, ya hear? I don't want to be treated differently as we will treat you. ;)

 

So, what do you think? Questions?
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: turtle on February 21, 2009, 06:07:16 PM
What I think? I think that sounds great! I'm kind of anxious of hearing the deadlines for updating, though, as it sounds as they might be too strict for RL at the moment. Had a look at the old thread, and I think it sounds like an improvement both in regards to you playing along, and also in regards to some loosening of the rules. There are many creative people here, and I think it will somehow prohibit them unfolding it with too strict rules. All in all, a great idea, and I look forward to it :)

Thomas
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: soulchaser on February 22, 2009, 02:53:41 AM
sounds great...looking forward to participate...somehow the berlin wall comes to my mind when I think about the theme &Thk/(
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on February 22, 2009, 11:39:26 AM
Yes turtle , rules will be a lot more flexible this time, although no rules at all wouldn't make a fair competition, so some rules have absolutely be respected. My wife, Lynn (lynncanox) will be back from her vacation and together this week, we will terminate the rules and challenges. This will be posted once ready.

I will be finishing the last of the three maps today and later tonight show you the choices we offer.

soulchaser , Die Berliner Mauer might be a good choice. Hab' Spass.

mrb
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on February 22, 2009, 08:35:49 PM
Ok, here are the three map choices that I have for the GRV II Bordertown  Challenge. Please have a good look at them and choose the one we should use in this challenge.
All maps have been created with the ingame godmode terraforming tools, therefore much of the terrain is simple flat terrain, easy to work with and to build on whatever your wishes are. Let's have a look now:

Map *A* is a 7x3 medium tile region, about the same size as GRV I. It has a very large river and island in the middle with plains on each side interrupted by some small hills and a small mountain range in the west.

(http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7972/bordertown1.jpg)

(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7928/bordertown1a.jpg)

Map *B* is a 2x3 medium tile region, the smallest one. It also has a river with island in the middle of the plains and mountains on each side, east and west.

(http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/737/bordertown2.jpg)

(http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/4076/bordertown2a.jpg)

Map *C* and the last is a 3x3 medium tiled region and again a river separating the midde of the terrain with plains and some small mountains in the northeast.

(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3676/bordertown3.jpg)

(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7939/bordertown3a.jpg)

All you have to do is choose one of them, which you most likely would be interested in playing on. I will then upload the map to the STEX (where I upload all my stuff) and all you have to do is render it with either the SC4Terraformer or with the SC4Mapper, since it is a .sc4m file.


Before you choose the map though, here is a little about the regionplay competition you all should know about. This year's challenge theme is *BORDERTOWN* as you already know and therefore the challenge will be to build a Bordertown that has developped between two Nations, half on each side of the border. You choose the two Nations you want, whether they are existing or imaginary, but be aware that there has to be a cultural difference between the two of them. One Nation will be rich and colourful while the other will be poor and somewhat slightly underdevelopped. The difference has to be recognized easily in regionview.

These are the basics you should know when choosing the map and that's enough for today for you to know. Any questions?

mrb
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Pat on February 22, 2009, 10:13:18 PM
Fred I think I am getting amped up for this!!! Liking whats happening so far... I am honest I will have to come back to this on monday or tuesday at this time my brain is fried... Had a bad call... see you back soon,

Patrick
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: soulchaser on February 23, 2009, 01:43:07 AM
If I understand right, we shall vote now?

I'd say Map A

B is way too tiny and with C, you don't have much choice to decide which side is "poor" and which one is "rich".

They all look great by the way  &apls
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: BarbyW on February 23, 2009, 01:54:29 AM
Fred, I can upload whichever map is finally chosen to the LEX for you as well.

From a gameplay point of view I go along with soulstealer with Map A but I can understand why you are giving the choice. A lot of people started GRV 1 but never finished it so a smaller map could mean more would finish.

Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wouanagaine on February 23, 2009, 02:14:28 AM
Barby, I think all maps should be uploaded as a pack ( there are not that much big, so I'm pretty sure the pack will be under the 10mb limit ) so everyone can make a better judgement by trying them in SC4 instead of just looking at the pics

Fred:
- will we be allowed to choose our terran mod ?
- on map C, I can clearly see some edges between the tiles, I know you terraformed within SC4, but I think a quick pass in SC4TF can help smoothing the edges
- I think all maps are interesting and the size of the one choosen will dictate the length of the competition
- If I understand correctly, there will be 2 nations, one on each side of the river, so I think the map are unbalanced, there is always one side with more 'buildable' land in all of the 3 maps. This is not harsh critics, it can lead to interesting gameplay and usually one nation is always "luckier" than its neighbors
- If I play ( still not sure, need to clean up plugins ), I'll choose map B




Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: turtle on February 23, 2009, 09:01:33 AM
I like map A the most, but if you're looking for a shorter game, then map B. I like the island in the middle of the river. But luckily, all the maps are very good, so either way it will be a very nice map. I think I'll play the one that's in the competetion if I don't have time for participating. After looking at the first GRV I'm now playing the old map  :P

Thomas
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on February 23, 2009, 09:22:09 AM
I have played the map A before (it is an old map I made years ago) and I might say that it plays very well. BarbyW is right when she mentioned that I chose different sizes because of the abandon it caused with GRV I. Size is kinda important because it somehow will determine the length of the competition.
We don't want people to get bored while playing a region, but if most of you feel that map A is the best choice, we'll do it.

Like  wouanagaine said, it might be a good idea to upload the whole as a GRV II Map-Pack and it is probably what I will do too. I will talk to Lynn (lynncanox) as soon as she comes back from vacation (postponed to wednesday) and I will send the sc4m files to BarbyW, who generously offered herself to upload them to the LEX.

Keep voting and commenting, any and all ideas are good.

Thanks for being interested in GRV II, this WILL be fun, I promise.

wouanagaine: Yes we will all use our own terrainmod and all other mods in our individual plays, there will be no restrictions with this, also all cheats are allowed this time.
Map C has a somewhat photographic edge problem I think because ingame it seems ok. Maybe running it through SCTF will help, but I cannot run it, because it shuts down my computer to desktop. I will try it in the SC4Mapper.
The reason that one riverside of each map is a little smaller and less accessible is exactly because of the theme of the two Nations, one richer and the other one poorer. You guessed right, one nation has all the luck while the other wanders along.

mrb  ;)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: metarvo on February 23, 2009, 10:00:24 AM
For me, I would prefer either map B or map C.  Map C is really my favorite one, but it sounds like you're having problems with it, so Map B would be my next choice.  Are there any specific plugins that are required/prohibited?  I assume you meant that we could use whatever plugins we wanted, but I just want to double check to be sure.  I'll need to see the rules and restrictions before I confirm my participation, since I do have a RL that I battle live with.  You are right in saying this would be a lot of fun, though.  :)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: VeTram on February 23, 2009, 12:23:49 PM
hi to everyone.... :)...nice effort mrbisonm... :thumbsup:....i think it will not be just fun , but i believe it will be educational either , i think i will try it and participate too , about my choice of maps , i think i will prefer map C , or B ( in case C can't work)
friendly VeTram  ;)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on February 23, 2009, 02:43:02 PM
Well, map C works fine, no ingame problems at all, only some little funny line effects in regionview, but then again not always. Before I upload map C, it will surely and hopefully be fixed.

All Plugins, all mods without any exception, all cheats and everything else will this time be allowed. Rules will be very simple and of a minimum amount and very easily understood and restrictions will be only in some challenges and then again, they will be easy and acceptable. I can understand that you want to wait to confirm to play, but as I said, we are not ready to play right now yet. Some minor adjustements have to be made and some things have to be still discussed with you all.

Give us a 2 week or so waiting period before we really start playing officially.

Now, to give you a glimpse of the participation requirements: There are about 15 challenges sofar that we will ask you to perform in your region. All should be able to be created  within 2 hours of gameplay, nothing really hard to realize. And the rest of the free time you have, you can use it to build other things in your region, all is up to you with some minor restrictions. Then updates should be done within 14 days, that goes for everyone at every challenge. Meaning you just have to build that challenge that will take approx 2 hrs of play in 2 weeks of time. So if you think you do NOT have these 2 hrs in 2 weeks, please don't apply and just come and visit us and enjoy it the same. Besides if anyone doesn't have 2hrs/week, he/she shouldn't be here in the first place.
Inscriptions will start after the publications of Restrictions and Rules, and BarbyW will be so kind and open a thread for your personal regionplay.

Remember, this is to have fun and learn from each other some tricks etc and not to stress anyone. The competition is going to be a friendly one, nothing else, no one will win thousands of Dollars/Euros/Yens etc with this.ok?

I still recommend that you will have a look at «GRV I» over on Simtropolis.(link in my first post) It will give you an excellent idea what it will be like, but just imagine that it will be 60 to 65 % less restricted.

All challenges will be numbered and different points will be given for each update also. We will show your earned points in the top post of your thread, updated every two weeks or whenever you finished your challenge. (we have the moderator power to do so) and also it will be shown in the General Meetingroom of the BORDERTOWN Challenge[/b]. Every challenge will only be shown when all participants have finished their former challenge. If you are late in one or two challenges, that can and will be accepted without any complications. We understand that sometimes RL can be more demanding. So do not panic, surely another week you will have the time to catch up.

More details of the restrictions/ rules are coming soon. Now is the time to choose the right map, so let's hear it.

mrb  ;)

Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: BarbyW on February 24, 2009, 02:11:37 AM
Can I vote again, please?  ;D
I really liked Map C and think that is the optimum size for the challenge. It is interesting enough to give a variety of gameplay but not so big as to be overwhelming. 15 challenges on a 9 medium tile map sounds fun and interesting.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Heblem on February 24, 2009, 02:16:54 AM
This concept of Bordertown somewhat reminds me of US-Mexico border, exactly in El Paso and Juarez... good concept and idea tough  :thumbsup: I vote for map C too. If it possible im interested in participating.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on February 24, 2009, 10:51:05 AM
No problem BarbyW, Map C is noted for you. May I also mention here that one challenge can be several demands just like in GRV I. Example: we might ask you in one challenge to build 1. a school, 2. a fire department and 3. a Police department.

Heblem, it would be nice to have you join us and Mexico/US border in El Paso/Juarez sound good as an example.

mrb
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Rayden on March 01, 2009, 10:16:56 AM
Hey Fred, I hope you're alright. A week has gone without any other news ()what()
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on March 01, 2009, 10:59:14 AM
........sorry for not having left a note before, but we are just fine. I have been busy like a nut with the farm (many births of calves this year at the same time) and also some Loghome plans that I have to absolutely finish before spring starts in the northern hemisphere. We are working this weekend on the rules and restriction sheet and hopefull we will be showing them later tonight for a first inspection to our participants. All adjustments will be done there after. Ideas and comments will be greatly appreciated.

Fred/ mrb
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: lynncanox on March 01, 2009, 01:30:56 PM
Hi


My name is Lynn, Freddy's wife, and also the other juge. I am glad to be part of this. I will not post very often because my english is not very good, but I will help Freddy with the jugements and points.

    I hope that everybody is having a lot of fun with this and we hope that many people will join our challenge. Hope to see everybody here soon. A bientot.

Good Luck, Bonne chance tout l'monde.

Lynn
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wouanagaine on March 01, 2009, 02:57:14 PM
Hi Lynn & Fred

Glad to see that some stuff will be ready in the next week

Vive le Quebec libre:)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: BarbyW on March 01, 2009, 03:08:46 PM
Thank, Fred and Lynn, for the update. Don't worry about your English, Lynn, we understand you very well. As an English person I can't say "Vive le Quebec libre:)" but between us Stéph and i can translate if necessary.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on March 01, 2009, 09:06:24 PM
Here we are now, ready to talk about another category, the rules and restrictions of the Challenge of BORDERTOWN. But first let me talk about the pointage that we will be giving to every participant. Points will be as follow.

Insatisfactory.....................0
Poor.................................1
ok and acceptable..............2
Good................................3
Very good.........................4
Excellent...........................5


Now let me tell you right away, don't expect too many *excellent* from us, since excellent is something like perfect and this is quite rare. We will not consider anything perfect or Excellent unless it really is. It will not be like the Rating of the STEX.....lol....where 98 % of every upload is a perfect 10/ excellent. To be honest, I have only seen about a dozen or so uploads to the STEX that really earned a full 10 and beliebve me , I am and have been for many years one of the harshest Commentars of the STEX.
So, I will be like this here too, I still have to see any perfection on GRV II !

All the points that I and my wife (lynncanox) will be giving on this challenge will be added together and then divided by 2 and the lesser will make it as the last decision. Example: If Lynn gives you a *4* and I will give you a *3*, the final will be a *3* (4+3:2=3.5, to round the numbers we will choose the lower one, so .....it is 3).

Points will be given individually in each gamer's thread and in the Common thread (The Main thread of rules, restrictions, points and challenges, yet to be created) And these points will only be given when every one has finished each challenge and once the next challenge is announced. Points will be explained individually also and we will tell you exactly why we gave you a lower or higher pointage for certain things. We base ourselves on real life situations, but also on imaginary fictions. Some *Bonus Points* will be given for different things we see, such as ideas, creations, organizations, etc, but these points will stay hidden until the end of the challenge. We will only mention when we give the normal points that there is a Bonus point in that specific post/ update.
Once all posts are in from each challenge, only then I will post or update my version of the challenge and you may judge me (in my thread) and give or take away points. I will then add all these points and divide them by the number of voters and choose the lower number to be my final point, just like we'll do with you. Lynn will not participate in voting or judging me. It will only be you. So, if you are looking for a revenge....lol...this will be the right time to do so. ;) Don't hesitate to be harsh with me, I can take anything as long as it is real and justified.
 
We will explain the points in every detail on each challenge so to make sure that you understand the right way to judge me also.

Now let's go to the rules and restrictions and have a closer look. Once we all agree about these rules, they will be posted  officially in another thread, but we keep the right to make any changes if necessary. We just want this to be equal to each and everyone of you.


Posting Rules:[/size]

Once an official numbered challenge is given (there will be 15 in all) you have exactly 10 days to put it into action. More than enough time to do so I think. This is the timeline to respect. If in any case you cannot meet the timeline for any reason, let us know before and we'll find a way to accept an exception and make it function in a different way.

That is the only posting rule there is. Very easy to follow in my opinion.



Gaming Rules :[/b]

There are 6 major Gaming rules that need to be absolutely respected. In not respecting these rules or any part of them will result in penalty points (negative points) that will be distracted from your total pointage. No further warning about breaking these rules will be given.
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1.You may not at any time and under no circumstances build (unless asked to do so):
 
A. a national or international airport or anything similar that could look like it.
B. a port or harbour of any kind (except very small fishing and pleasance docks and marinas )
C. a highway of any kind or roads that can be easily transformed into highways or may look like one, nor boulevards in small villages and towns that absolutely look unreal and out of place. Before you build something like this, inform yourself by asking me only (PM)
D. an army, airforce or naval base or anything that may look like it.

2. Once asked to meet a challenge, you will do your best to fulfill the demand in all details and within the timelimits allowed. Every part of the challenge has to be executed.
3. Each time a challenge is given, a minimum quantity of pictures will be demanded which has to be respected, also the view of the pictures will be precised as asked for. You can show us more pictures of any views in the same update if you want to though. No limits. Please respect the picture sizes demanded by this site.
4. You will have to build one bordertown divided into two parts (two nations), a part of each side of the river which holds the borderline.(North and South) It is the mainriver in the region running from east to west that will be the line between the two Nations. (see map below)
There has to be a significent visual difference between the two Nations, whether they are rich and poor, modern and old, small and big, advanced culture and not so advanced,etc.... or anything else that is easily seen and recognized as a visual difference. There is always somewhere in this world where one part of a civilization has the advantage of something and the other side doesn't. The Center of this town has to be built in the middle tile with the riverisland. (see map, tile *E*), but it can spread over all neighboring tiles as you wish. You are the only one that will decide the sides of your choices of nations. North or South.
5. You may not alter the terrain dramatically (terraforming) to any other form without having the permission from the judges to do so. Straightening out the river banks a bit for better retaining wallconstructions, yacht clubs, flattening out some stretches for better road or rail construction,bridges or for plopping certain lots etc, are fully allowed. Just keep yourself within the limits of the acceptable please. Moving a hill or creating a new river/creek is not allowed, remember that.
6.  You will have to use the specified GRV II map uploaded to the LEX and STEX and render it into a medium tile region only (green config.bmp) The map will be available later.
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Here is what you may do:

You can build your region with any terrainmod or any other mod you already have in your pluginsfolder. No restrictions at all. Also all possible cheats, custom lots/BATs are allowed wherever, whenever and however you use them. Deserts, marsmod or whatever is no problem to us.

You may build all utility buildings/ Lots (except airport or harbour unless demanded) at any time, in any way and in no limited numbers. Also all roads or street types are fully allowed (NAM etc) along with rails and all the rest of the transporting methods (GLR, Subways, ferries etc)- (except highways unless demanded), even canals and trails can be freely built wherever and however you wish.

The way you build up or down.... your region is fully up to you. Only your imagination will be the limit. We will give *Bonus* points for those that will do it gradually and in a more like realistic way. In other words, if we see a countryside farming community developping into a village , then become a town and then form into a city, some possible *Bonus* points will be given for this, which will be released only at the end of the competition.

You will be allowed to use any programs (photoshop, Gimp, mspaint, irfanview etc) that you have to alter your pictures as you wish. Just make sure that we will still recognize that the picture comes from SC4 and everything we asked for is still clear and visible. Because some have the talents to do better picture editing than others, we will NOT give any points for this. (maybe a Bonus point?)

Besides the Main town/city divided by the two nations (Bordertown) you may build as many or little villages and other towns as you wish wherever you want to in the region. Some agriculture will be necessary though, so please do not build a region without it. There will be a time that we will ask for some agricultural proof. (one of the challenges)

You may upload as many pictures as you wish (meeting at least the minimum demand) and you may wish to upload updates as many times between the challenges as you want to, while always respecting the Gaming rules. You may also include some small stories, documentation or explanations with your pictures, which might also give you some *Bonus* points here and there, all depending of realism, sci-fi and/or originality.

You may build two nations of any kind (without mentioning any discrimination though to the lesser), whether they are from real life, imaginary or even out of this world and from another universe.

The size of your city/ies and population will not give you more or less points. You can build up your region as high as you wish or just leave it as a small town.


So, you see, liberty in GRV II is much less tied up as before. We have less restrictions and rules and probably more fun to come. Respect the one updating rule and the 6 gaming rules and you will be on the way to become our 2009 GRV Champion. Have fun and enjoy the experience and the region. I am sure my wife Lynn and I will. ;)

Enjoying your participation of GRV II is our maininterest. Keep that in mind.

If you now have something to add or would like to modify or have an idea about something else, let us now here. We are open to anything. After all, you are the one that will play this challenge. Once these rules are accepted by all of us, we will make them official.

 
Lynn and Fred

PS: Before BarbyW will officially upload the map to the LEX and I to the STEX, it will be sent to wouanagaine for finetuning later this week.

Map *C* was chosen as the official GRV II map. I took the liberty to make some minor changes though. Since a few of you liked the island in the river in map *A* and *B*,  I created one in this map also. Here is our Map.

(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/1539/bordertowngrvchallengei.jpg)

(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1539/bordertowngrvchallengei.jpg)


(http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1539/bordertowngrvchallengei.jpg)



Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: BigSlark on March 01, 2009, 11:00:26 PM
I look forward to playing in the GRV and seeing what challenges you come up with.

I'll keep my eyes open for the map!

Cheers,
Kevin
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: soulchaser on March 02, 2009, 09:53:27 AM
Now I'm really IN.
I like the whole concept, sounds great.

The only thing that is unclear (I'd personally say), is rule 1.C as far asa RHW is used.
A 2-lane RHW is NOT a highway in commen view I think, so this would be ok? Or is it a highway within the rules?

There are so many ideas allready, I'd love to beginn planning. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on March 02, 2009, 12:00:21 PM
Yes, RHW are considered by us as a highway and therefor are NOT allowed until specified. So are boulevards that are completely out of place, like a large blvd in a small town or out in the country. The reason for this is simple. We want you to build a region without highways or highway-like structures until we ask for them. We want to see how you can handle the stress of being asked to build a highway right there where we want it through already built structuresthat you created.

Therefor there is no reason even to prepare a part of your region for the highway because you have no idea where it will be. Every individual will get a separate challenge specified to his/her own region one day to see how you adapt yourself to this challenge.

In my case, you all will be the one telling me where to build my highway.

mrb ;)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: soulchaser on March 02, 2009, 12:25:00 PM
So a 2-lane RHW is out (?)...because i'd say it's more like German "Überlandsstrassen" = "cross-country roads" (?)  (in fact the speed is to the same degree higher than on roads) and i would built some to connect villages if it's possible, not as placeholders for a real highway

Sorry,if you think, that you already said that, just want to be sure.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on March 02, 2009, 01:45:49 PM
Yes soulchaser , aber diese Uberlandstrassen sind leider nicht erlaubt. Du musst jetzt einfache Landstrassen dazu gebrauchen.

These two lane RHW are not permitted as they can be easily transformed into highways. Just use regular roads to connect villages or as we call them here in Québec, Provinicial numbered Roads. We will consider "Uberlandstrassen" as highways. The word highway does not really always translate into "Autobahn", the trans-canadian highway #1 is 80 % of the time just a regular road that crosses Canada from the Atlantic to the Pacific, although considered as a highway.


As I was looking for the .sc4m file of the chosen region I came across another slightly different version of the same region that I did some time ago. It is 3 medium tiles wider and has access to the sea. Would you all prefer this 3x4 map to the regular 3x3 *C*map?
Let me know please.

(http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6798/bordertowniia1.jpg)

(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2245/bordertowniia2.jpg)

mrb
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: BigSlark on March 02, 2009, 01:49:10 PM
As I was looking for the .sc4m file of the chosen region I came across another slightly different version of the same region that I did some time ago. It is 3 medium tiles wider and has access to the sea. Would you all prefer this 3x4 map to the regular 3x3*C*map?
Let me know please.

mrb

I like the idea of access to the sea, personally. It would make the contrast much stronger in my mind.

Cheers,
Kevin
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wouanagaine on March 02, 2009, 01:51:21 PM
Can we have a screenshot ?
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on March 02, 2009, 01:52:51 PM
....sorry, the darn screenshot didn't show up first......

mrb
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: soulchaser on March 02, 2009, 02:46:16 PM
OK...now everything is clear  ;) no rhw at all....no problem for me....just wanted to know if I got you right.

BTW: Your German (or translating software) is quite good ;)

For the map: I personally liked the smaller one better. Somehow the small hill (F/I) doesn't make any geographical sence, the same for the small river tahat comes out of the lake and seems just weird, when the coast is that near.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on March 02, 2009, 03:26:48 PM
Born in Sweden (in a small agricultural town called Umeà), father swedish/german, mother german/hungarian, raised in Germany (Wuppertal/Aachen and Monschau), lived in Holland (Maastricht) and now in french Canada (near Sherbrooke/Québec) and probably will die in New Zealand (Queenstown)....lol. I speak 7 languages, can understand 11 and read and write only 3. Jetzt kannst Du bestimmt gut verstehen warum mein Deutsch so gut ist. Leider hab' ich nicht viel die Gelegenheit es zu sprechen. (transl: now you probably understand why my english is so good, unfortunetly I don't have the chance to speak it so often anymore)


I know about the geological *errors* in my region, but it was done for Simcity City-building. You probably will understand some time later why I created the little river that runs contrary to the sea and the *out-of-nowhere* hills. Hills like this exist here in Québec in the St-Laurence River valley near Rougemont (check google earth)

(http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2484/rougemont.jpg)

They sprout up like this in the middle of flatlands without any reason and can be up to 1000 meters high. Besides it makes a somewhat challenge to build around it, no? Thanks for mentioning though soulchaser.
Just in case if more of you all would like me to change the little river and hill, I can do it without any problems in no time.


mrb ;)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wouanagaine on March 02, 2009, 03:34:10 PM
I don't know yet what to decide about the map

You mention in a previous post that we'll have to build a city in the island between the two side of the river, it will be a very tedious challenge as I don't see that many land space on the island. at least if I understand correctly what you've done the bigger map will offer more space for that challenge
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on March 02, 2009, 04:30:37 PM
I don't mean to build the city on the island directly, no, the island is there only to make it more interesting to build around.
What we have to do is to build a town/city on both sides of the river which actually IS the borderline. You decide if you want to separate the island for the two nations or if you want to keep it only for one nation. That's up to you.
The middle of the river is the line, and the Center of the town/city of the two nations will be on tile *E* and you can build your town/city around this tile in every direction afterwards. That again is all up to you.

We will all start with tile E and then enlarge our town towards all directions if we like so. The southern half, below the river, will be one nation and the northern half, above the river will be the other nation. The river islands will be up to you on which side it will belong, whether north or south. Maybe even a small story how the island was won years ago could make an interesting point in your CJ/ MD. (just a hint)

The larger map is only another choice if you think the first Map *C* is too small.


mrb
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on March 04, 2009, 04:13:45 PM
Hm.....I still need to know whether we use the Standard Map C or the bigger version of it.(see above) Please reply, I need at least 2 or 3 to confirm.

I hope there will be more than just 2 or 3 people interested in playing this Challenge. &Thk/(


Thanks
mrb ;)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: BarbyW on March 04, 2009, 04:31:11 PM
I like the bigger version with sea access.


Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Splime on March 04, 2009, 05:07:57 PM
I'd definitely be interested in this... and the expanded map C would be best, just for expanded possibilities.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: projectadam on March 04, 2009, 05:19:23 PM
If you end up using the sea access map I would suggest starting on the coast instead of on what is currently tile "E." It is not that big of a deal but historically I think that the developments would be settled there instead of growing into the coast.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: metarvo on March 04, 2009, 05:57:21 PM
I might as well go along with the consensus, and vote for the expanded C.  The addition of the coast adds a whole new dynamic to the GRV II challenge, but I must say that it is a desirable one.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: soulchaser on March 04, 2009, 10:08:13 PM
Maybe I didn't choose my words right, cause I thought it was a vote for the smaller one, but it's allready 4:1, so I don'T see any chances right now!  ;D

Nevertheless, I would participate.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on March 04, 2009, 11:18:08 PM
Good to hear that life is back in this thread.......I was starting to worry.
Anyways, on the bigger C map it would have been a little more logical to start on the coastline instead on Tile E, but since tile E has  a riverjunction and an island, well a couple of islands, and since it is a Bordertown, it would look just right to start on tile E. Besides, we have plans in advance and they wouldn't work out right, if the town/city would start elsewhere.

Thanks for commenting. How about the rules, do they all seem fair, easy and understandable?

mrb ;)
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: JoeST on March 05, 2009, 01:39:58 AM
yo mrb

its great to see a new project here :) I know im "a bit late" but I havent had time to post, (i know, crazy isnt it)

cant wait

Joe
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: wouanagaine on March 05, 2009, 02:56:19 AM
Fred, can we have an idea of what kind of plugins we'll need ?
I'd like to sort out my plugins and want to know if for example I'll need SNM or any heavy harbor related lots ?
It could be better for me to hunt for good lots before a challenge start if I don't have any kind of lots to at least give a try to the challenge
I for now don't have any airport related stuff, so if we'll be ask to build an airport, I'll go from download airport pack now ( and try them to be more effective when the challenge will be running )
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: BarbyW on March 05, 2009, 03:43:44 AM
I am going to sort out two plugins_compressed files. One for rural and one for urban. That way I can keep the two sides as I want them to be and also keep loading time down. By doing things that way I will keep the X-Ports folder separate and so will have the availability of the functional seaports and airports in both cities. The SNM compressed dat will be kept separate too so when asked for I can add it to the appropriate set of plugins. If GRV II is anything like GRV I all of these will be asked for at some stage.  ;D
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on March 05, 2009, 12:14:17 PM
wouanagaine , Barby is right, there will be a time when almost everything possible in SC4 will be asked for. Here are some ideas of what is upcoming without giving it all away:

- building of an airport on a specific tile
- building of a seaport on a specific tile
- building of a highway on specific tiles (can be different from one player to another.)
- army, navy, airforce etc will also be asked for.
- etc

Now, how big you want to build all these depend on your plugins or what you have in mind to build . It will be all up to you. Let me tell you that smaller constructions can be as much attractive as larger ones if they are well organized. We don't look at the massive construction of things but more at the quality how, where and why it is built so.

Here is what I do and Have in my plugins folder:
All (withotu any exceptions) of my mods are in the (ex:NAM,terrain/water/cheats etc) C/Programfiles/Maxis/Simcity4/Plugins folder. That is just to keep myself organized and load the game a little faster. Then all the basic LOT files that I use everyday are in MyDocuments/SC4/Plugins folder. Outside of the plugins folder I have these folders containing from dozens to hundreds of other files:

- airports
- seaports
- Industrial pack
- Commercials
- Highrisers
- Farms
- Parks and special lots

All these above I will, when needed, put into the pluginsfolder at one time and take them out when not needed anymore. Here is an example of how I work this out.
Let's say I am starting building my city with all my basic plugins like Res/Com and Industries, then I want to go the neighbor and build more and some intensive industries, so I take the Industrial Pack  and put it into my pluginsfolder. When having built all the stuff that I wanted, I save and exit that tile. Now I am going south in another tile and want a seaport in this one, so before entering the tile I exit the game, take out the Industrial Pack from my Plugins folder and put the seaport folder into my plugins and then return to the tile I want to build my seaport.......and so on with all the other. Remember that I only have the basics in my Plugins folder, so loading time of the game is not that painful.

You see what this does is keeping my Main pluginsfolder at around a constant size all the time,( in my case it is 3.2gb,  meaning the game will be handling it just fine and then by adding the others only when you need them is just an organized way of playing the game without creating a mess nor complications. ( I used to have a plugins folder of more than 14 gb before)
Sometimes I have an x-tra large region ( Nexis of Genesis) that only has one certain lot in one tile of the whole region, so why keep it in my Pluginsfolder all the time I am playing in all the other tiles. And I have hundreds of those around.

Simple, easy and practical, that is how I play my simcities.

To give it a visual how I organize my folders, here's a picture

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9098/plugins.jpg)



So, to answer your question about the pluginsfolder, just do it like this or upload what you think you gonna be needing for the challenges. Almost everything in the game will be asked for at its time.

mrb
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on March 06, 2009, 11:40:17 AM
The official map is on the LEX right now and can be downloaded here:
http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1993
I haven't been able to upload it to the STEX for it seems out cold again, but I will as soon as it comes back.

Now, don't you go and start playing like crazy on it right away. We will ask you pictures of your beginnings and the first developments and so on, so make sure not to finish the region right away.
If you can't wait to play on it or just want to practice while we all wait for the official opening, you may make a copy of the region and play as much as you want on it.

Later this weekend I will open another thread where you will be able to officially give your name so that BarbyW can open a private gaming thread for every individual player.

Good luck

mrbisonm

Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: cameron1991 on March 07, 2009, 06:06:51 AM
If it isn't too late, I'm thinking about joining and playing this game. I have a few plans for my region and I'd love to do something challenging in SC4.

I have one question though, will our cities have to be profitable? ie use taxes, or just use the moolah cheat for unlimited cash. Personally I'd prefer to use unlimited cash as I think it would be difficult to play and create two distinctly different towns with financial limitations.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: superhands on March 07, 2009, 07:49:10 AM
Quote
If it isn't too late


can i sign up to? :)

dave
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on March 07, 2009, 09:54:42 AM
cameron1991 , no it isn't too late to join at all since it hasn't officially started yet. Just look out for the thread *Joining the GRV II Challenge* that will be created soon. You will have two weeks or so to join. Glad you decided so.

As it is mentioned in the Rules and Restriction Section, you will be able to use any cheats you want to, including all money cheats. This year no restrictions to that the city has to be profitable. Good news, no?

bighead99 , of course, just wait for the Joining thread to open and leave your name there. A sub-thread in your name will openend for you to play the GRV II region. See ya there.......
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: newsimaddict on March 09, 2009, 05:39:57 PM
Sounds fantastic Fred. Shall be waiting for the join thread to open up and I'm there!
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: cityspade on March 09, 2009, 06:26:59 PM
Hey, this is looking really good! I just might jump on board.

Is it too late to comment on the map? I really like the version you picked, but I have a concern about the city tile configuration. Wouldn't it be more appropriate if the tiles were separated as close to the center of the river as possible? (As opposed to tiles that straddle both sides) My initial thoughts as far as the game was concerned was to have a well-educated country vs a not-so-well-educated country (simply speaking). But if I'm playing on one of the center tiles, any lot I plop that gives a city wide EQ boost would give it to both countries. This could make it hard to create two distinctly different countries as the rules set forth.

I don't want to suggest that the map be changed (especially since its already been uploaded) but I thought I'd bring this up to see if anybody else might see it as a concern. Any thoughts?

-Spade
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: newsimaddict on March 09, 2009, 07:01:34 PM
Only thing is that you wouldn't be able to join roads etc. From memory, if you control the radius of the school bus funding and make it smaller plus choose your location wisely, you shouldn't have any dramas with spillage to the other side of the river. Of course this means a lot more/less schools need to be built for both sides etc.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: cityspade on March 09, 2009, 07:26:30 PM
Only thing is that you wouldn't be able to join roads etc.

What if there were little 1 or 2 tile "nubs" that could be used for bridges and such.

From memory, if you control the radius of the school bus funding and make it smaller plus choose your location wisely, you shouldn't have any dramas with spillage to the other side of the river. Of course this means a lot more/less schools need to be built for both sides etc.

That would probably work for most schools and such, but the other types of education buildings don't have bus funding (i.e. university, opera house, museums). I'm not 100% sure, but I thought these buildings gave an EQ boost over the whole city with no way to control the "radius" of this effect.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: mrbisonm on March 09, 2009, 08:38:06 PM
You got a point there cityspade and I have realized it before, but because of some challenges it will needed to have both sides in one tile. But I am sure that you all will think of something that will clear this educational problem in some way, right? Hm.....is that a part of a challenge?

Anyways. maybe plopping on one side and growing on the other, maybe using different differences, or maybe......Whoa! ??? I wouldn't give that idea away here since I am playing too. (sorry)

I will open the *Join Here* thread in a day or two. We (lynncanox and I) are finalizing the preparations for the challenges, regulations, pointage sheets etc .....you know , all that paper work. ;)

mrb
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: Splime on March 09, 2009, 09:07:57 PM
I've read through the rules, and what I'm about to ask about seems legal, but I just want to make sure: Will we be allowed to post updates that do not have to do with the challenges? Like, extra pictures of things that look interesting?
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 09, 2009, 11:15:00 PM
I've read through the rules, and what I'm about to ask about seems legal, but I just want to make sure: Will we be allowed to post updates that do not have to do with the challenges? Like, extra pictures of things that look interesting?

Yes you may , just make sure that you always follow the rules though, especially  those ones that say: " You may not build......."
The pictures and the story that you will update in between challenges will not in any way effect our judgement nor the points you'll be getting for each challenge.
Also , if in any case you have built a challenge without knowing that it is gonna be a challenge and showed us the picture of it, once the actual challenge comes , you may NOT use the same for a completion of the challenge.

Example: Let's say a challenge in the futur is to build a church and you already have built one in between the challenges, then you may not use the same church in the same place to build for this challenge to come. You may use the same model and lot of course, but not the same spot in the same manner.

mrb
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mightygoose on March 10, 2009, 06:34:44 AM
is there a population limit this time, is it mean to be rural as before?
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 10, 2009, 11:03:44 AM
No population limit, you can create a Megacity if you want to, but take it easy in the beginning please, we want to see the developments of your region and not see the final product all of sudden.  ;)
Also leave some rural area, because we have an agricultural and countryside challenge.

mrb
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: SlimShady on March 10, 2009, 02:48:41 PM
All modds like the Cam and Nam we can use right?

I am a fan of playing without plopping buildings or using money cheats so would this effect me playing this comp in any way because I think this is an awesome idea. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 10, 2009, 04:17:20 PM
SlimShady
I don't know if it would affect it that much. I know some special points are given for special things we see in the updates, whether or not they have to do with the challenge itself. This will go into the *efford* category.
But at one or another time, landmarks, parks, police, fire, watersystems, electricity producing plants etc and so on......will be asked for. You decide if you want to create the full region with no cheatplops or not. I on my side am pretty sure that we can do some good stuff with regular playing as long as we keep a serious eye on our budget, right?.
The worst that can happen is that you will have to cheat with yourself here and there a little bit (only if necessary) Good luck

mrb  ;)
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: SlimShady on March 10, 2009, 04:44:30 PM
I will keep that in mind.  ()stsfd()

When will the game offically start , because I don't know how long my computer will take to render the map. I really would like to join in on this.  ;D
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on March 10, 2009, 05:22:12 PM
Hey SlimShady, semms we are going to have the same restrictions to ourselves. I'll try to build in a realistic way, too , as I always do. The only thing I "cheat" is a mayoral lottery, a Ordinance Mod I modified a bit.

I really can't wait for the GRVII to start
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 10, 2009, 08:56:58 PM
There is no official date to begin yet, but I would like to give the chance to everyone to start at the same time. We will wait a week or so, maybe 10 days.
We also have some more things to prepare concerning the detailing of the pointage and challenges, not all have yet been put on paper, so to speak. The preparing for us to have this challenge running smooth once it starts, is quite a challenge for me and my wife too.....lol.
So figure in between 6 and 10 days when this officially starts, more than enough time for SlimShady to render the map.
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: Pat on March 10, 2009, 11:09:41 PM
OK hmmm I dunno I am still sitting on the fence here about joining in... Why is because with the 3RR collaborators (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=112.msg229188#msg229188) starting soon, Waterfalls (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=722.0) a running, and then there is GRV II Bordertown...

Yes Jim aka Jmyers I know you said at one point it would be great to see me in but hmmm???  My city building skills suck and well I love to make creeks and rivers via TPW with all the wonderful flora out there... That is more my niche there... Now to try and compete against a lot of great players as I see lining up is astounding to me!!!

So that is why I am sitting on the fence.. Don't get me wrong at all Fred I would love to play and see what challenges do come up!!!  I would be certain that if there is a challenge around Nature setting I could do some great stuff with it but other then that I would be a epic fail otherwise...

Cheers,

Patrick
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 11, 2009, 12:50:47 AM
Pat, I can't force you, nor do I want to. You have to decide to join us, but let me tell you this and as I have said before, it is NOT the best SC4Player that might win. Every challenge is judged on four things most of the time:

- time spent on the project
- quality shown as creation and angle of picture (not photoshopped)
- logical positions of plops
- real life reference
- and presentation of the update

So, everyone might have a chance to win. Besides, you don't have to win, joining might be more fun that SC4 hasn't delivered us for awhile now.
I consider myself as a good player, whether with or without cheats, but I haven't joined to win, but to have simple fun and being a part of something we all together do at the same time. That is why I play and I hope I will not win and leave the honor to someone who really deserves it. Lynncanox won't let me win anyways......

Think about it   &Thk/(

Fred
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: The_Hutt on March 11, 2009, 02:03:14 AM
If I might make a suggestion: seeing as playing time is going to be 10 days per update, it might be a good idea to use either a...

- Fri-Sat-Sun-Mon-Tue-Wed-Thr-Fri-Sat-Sun, or a
- Sat-Sun-Mon-Tue-Wed-Thr-Fri-Sat-Sun-Mon

...schedule. Having two weekends available makes a big difference for me in terms of how much time I can devote to it, what with my studies and all, and I'm sure a lot of others can say the same thing.
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 11, 2009, 05:52:02 AM
To be honest I haven't thought of that at all, so this is an excellent idea, The_Hutt   and it couldn't have come at a better time. Of course having two weekends will change things for some and probably even most of us, so it'll be like:

- Fri-Sat-Sun-Mon-Tue-Wed-Thr-Fri-Sat-Sun

It might turn out that sometimes the challenges will be on saturday morning instead of a friday night, all depending on my free time also, but we should be able to present you the Challenges mostly on friday nights after our (Lynn and I) regular visit to the restaurant and you will have the time until the next sunday night to accomplish the demands.

Thanks very much for bringing this up, The_Hutt, that was indeed a great idea, greatly appreciated. I will incorporate this idea in the rule and restrictions section right away.


mrb
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: Pat on March 11, 2009, 06:33:25 PM
Hey Fred thank you and I know you cant force anyone at all... You did bring up a good slogan though I think would be awesome to use "but I haven't joined to win, but to have simple fun and being a part of something we all together do at the same time."  That right there has made me go to the other thread  ;)
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: CabraBuitre on March 11, 2009, 11:16:52 PM
I'm considering throwing my hat in... I've been thinking about getting back into city building again, and this might be a good way to do it!  One question about the timing... I get how the Fri-Sat-Sun-Mon-Tue-Wed-Thr-Fri-Sat-Sun would work... but what happens on Mon-Tue-Wed-Thur in between?  Just a break?  And would it be just those 4 days, or until the NEXT Friday?

EDIT:

Never mind... I just reread the rules and it makes sense again!
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 11, 2009, 11:24:08 PM
I'm considering throwing my hat in... I've been thinking about getting back into city building again, and this might be a good way to do it!  One question about the timing... I get how the Fri-Sat-Sun-Mon-Tue-Wed-Thr-Fri-Sat-Sun would work... but what happens on Mon-Tue-Wed-Thur in between?  Just a break?  And would it be just those 4 days, or until the NEXT Friday?

EDIT:

Never mind... I just reread the rules and it makes sense again!

It was mentioned in the Challenges Board and not in the rule thread (I think), right in the beginning of the thread. 10 days for you and 4 days for the judges to calculate the points, read and look at all the entries and preparing the next challenge. So we always come back to friday night where the new challenges will be posted.
Don't forget to apply in the *Joining the GRV II* section. ;)

Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: JoeST on March 12, 2009, 05:03:46 AM
this is getting MAH0000SIVE
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: Pat on March 12, 2009, 05:49:58 PM
Hey Fred I just downloaded the Map to use and all I got was a SC4M file and I cant find the config.bmp file for it... Thought I was able to use SC4T to open as well? But when I try SC4T locks up on me...
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: metarvo on March 12, 2009, 07:05:29 PM
Pat, you must start a new region first in SC4.  Name it Bordertown or whatever you want to use for GRV II.  Exit SC4 and go to your Regions folder.  There should be a config.bmp in the folder for your GRV II region that you just created.  Edit it to be an 8 x 6 image and make sure every pixel is green.  Now, you should be able to open the new config.bmp in SC4T.  Import the GRV II SC4M file and save it.  The GRV II region should be there next time you open SC4.  I hope this helps, Pat.  :)
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: Pat on March 12, 2009, 07:07:10 PM
Oii thank you Metarvo for reminding me of that simple step i forgot!!! Man I feel like a NooB lol
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 12, 2009, 09:29:56 PM
Sorry I didn't attach the config file but I thought when creating the region it automatically creates a config.bmp. I am new to these terraforming programs.

Just to make sure that you'll get it, I have attached it below.

mrb
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mightygoose on March 13, 2009, 10:16:14 AM
out of interest did you ever run the GRV1.5 on that map the rock?????
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 13, 2009, 12:41:36 PM
out of interest did you ever run the GRV1.5 on that map the rock?????

Not officially, but I played on it for personal fun, it was a nice experience to build something on it.(still under construction). I will be showing it in my CJ on ST (57 regions and one gouvernor) later this year. Do you want that map? I could upload it to the STEX or LEX.

The Rock

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1690/therockt.jpg)

Is it this one you meant?

Fred
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: Pat on March 13, 2009, 01:08:33 PM
Its all good there Fred and thank you for the BMP  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mightygoose on March 13, 2009, 01:11:29 PM
precisely, and i would love to have that map for a rainy day....(thinks fractional angled roads and a path to the summit may require a rainy week)
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 14, 2009, 08:43:04 AM
precisely, and i would love to have that map for a rainy day....(thinks fractional angled roads and a path to the summit may require a rainy week)

I will upload The Rock this week to the STEX since a few folks asked me sofar and send a copy to BarbyW, she will be kind enough to upload it to the LEX. And I would like to see Your results with it.

mrb
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: metarvo on March 15, 2009, 06:25:00 PM
I'm sorry to report that I am having problems.  After I have played for a while, the game crashes to the desktop when I try to open a city tile.  There seems to be no particular tile that causes the crash, as it has happened on several different ones.  When I load SC4, the tile loads fine, but the game usually crashes later when I try to open another tile.  I must also note that this is not occurring in any other regions.  Any help will be appreciated.  :)
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mightygoose on March 15, 2009, 07:18:58 PM
I personally opened all in one sitting and no-one else mentioned a similar problem, have you tried deleting the region including its containing folder and then redownloading it, there may have been file corruption somewhere...
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 15, 2009, 08:30:31 PM
Try re-rendering it also. That might help. Good luck and don't get discouraged. We'll help you.  ;)
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: metarvo on March 15, 2009, 09:00:27 PM
The thing is, I've already placed trees on the map, and it almost seems like it would be less trouble to live with the crashes than to redo the map.  :'(  Especially since the first challenge is soon.  ()stsfd()  I might try it, anyway, just to see if it helps.  Thanks for the advice.  :)
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 15, 2009, 10:25:14 PM
Well, good luck, just in case it doesn't work out, contact me, you have two chances to post later and this is accepted as one. Let me know.

Fred
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: metarvo on March 16, 2009, 11:39:09 AM
I have good news.  I think I have the crash problem sorted out.  It turns out that there may have been some conflicting plugins causing the problem.  I removed some from my folder, and switched some for others, and the crashes effectively disappeared.  I have made my first post in the board that has been prepared for me.  Thanks for the help, Fred.  :)
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 16, 2009, 12:03:18 PM
metarvo , glad you found the problem.  :thumbsup:

mrb
Title: Textures
Post by: Secretariat on March 16, 2009, 10:32:27 PM
Would it be a bad idea to use Maxis textures?  I haven't really found a good set of rock/water/tree textures I think is appropriate for the region I have in mind.
Title: Re: Textures
Post by: mrbisonm on March 16, 2009, 11:27:10 PM
Would it be a bad idea to use Maxis textures?  I haven't really found a good set of rock/water/tree textures I think is appropriate for the region I have in mind.

It doesn't matter what terrain, water etc mods you use, we will not
judge any terrain and etc textures and it will not be a challenge. Up to you with or without textured mods. Points will not be affected by it.

mrb

Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: antn on March 17, 2009, 04:51:44 PM
A question about the rules, does rule 6 apply on creeks or swamps and such,  made without any terraforming but with jeronij's ploppable water or the ploppable marshes made by chrisadams3997?
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 17, 2009, 07:14:33 PM
antnm,  everything *nature-al* in the mayormode (such as ploppable water, swamps, trees, rocks, flowers, bushes, grass and waterplants, etc is allowed before or at the same time of Challenge 1. (no people, cows and Peg's logging equipments, machinery etc please) After Challenge 1 is posted, you can plop anything you want or EVERYTHING you were able to compact into your Pluginsfolder.

mrb ;)
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mightygoose on March 18, 2009, 04:07:23 PM
out of interest is this going to be a ten challenge run like last time, or longer??? 20 challenges giving a total score out of 100 would be cool but that would take the better part of a year lol, i wouldn't want to commit you to that :P
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 18, 2009, 07:12:46 PM
Well, we have figured out 12 challenges so far and in my plan, it was going to be a total of 15, but geeez, not easy to find that many challenges, because every challenge has 2 or 3 demands to keep you busy and interested. I'm not saying that we are out of ideas yet, but that day will surely come I think.....  &mmm

mrb
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mightygoose on March 18, 2009, 07:50:49 PM
well you could always have an open week or two, like at the beginning of GRVI
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 19, 2009, 07:20:17 AM
well you could always have an open week or two, like at the beginning of GRVI

We already thought about that one...lol...thanks
mrb
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: jjune4991 on March 19, 2009, 09:29:38 AM
can someone help me with my pictures? look at my intro thread to see what i'm talking about.
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: Diggis on March 19, 2009, 10:05:26 AM
When you upload to Photobucket you get the option to resize.  make them 800x640 (or whatever it nearly is) instead of 1024x800
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: jjune4991 on March 19, 2009, 11:18:49 AM
thanks!
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: cameron1991 on March 20, 2009, 05:14:42 AM
Is a small hill with a water tower on top considered too much terraforming?
I'm trying to create a small hill for the water tower, as you rarely find a water tower on flat land...
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t101/cameronpapps/untitled-17.jpg)
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 20, 2009, 10:12:55 AM
cameron1991,  Yes, light terraforming is allowed, just like in your case. Also the riverbanks may be straightend out to accept the seawalls, hills prepared slightly to accept roads and rails better and one tile high mounds to keep water away from inondations or run rails/roads above the lower grounds. Actually everything that you see everyday irl is permitted. But don't go godmoding the river or hills themselves though, so they won't be recognizable anymore, nor create any new lakes and rivers. Stay within the restrain of reality and be logical. ;)
If in any case you want to do more, you can ask for the Governor's permission (me) for heavier terraforming, but make sure that you have a valid and solid reason for this before presenting the demand.


mrb
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Sheep49 on March 28, 2009, 05:16:13 AM
I think this is the right place to post the announcement that now SC4Wiki has an article about GRVII [linkie (http://www.wiki.sc4devotion.com/index.php?title=Grand_River_Valley_II)]. If you have any comments, suggestions etc. for that, just tell me or any other editor/moderator/admin on SC4Wiki, and we'll change it for better. :)

Good luck with challenges everyone ;)
Piotr
Title: Re: Introduction and Discussion
Post by: Gaston on March 28, 2009, 09:30:55 AM
cameron1991Yes, light terraforming is allowed, just like in your case. Also the riverbanks may be straightend out to accept the seawalls, hills prepared slightly to accept roads and rails better and one tile high mounds to keep water away from inondations or run rails/roads above the lower grounds. Actually everything that you see everyday irl is permitted. But don't go godmoding the river or hills themselves though, so they won't be recognizable anymore, nor create any new lakes and rivers. Stay within the restrain of reality and be logical. ;)
If in any case you want to do more, you can ask for the Governor's permission (me) for heavier terraforming, but make sure that you have a valid and solid reason for this before presenting the demand.


mrb

What about ploppable water to make small surface watercourses.   Like what David (dedgren) is so well known for.    Is that allowed?


---Gaston
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 28, 2009, 11:32:08 AM
Sheep49, wow, that is fantastic......I never thought that it would get that famous....lol. Thanks for the link.

Gaston, since ploppable water is a mayorplop, it is allowed in all forms, situations and locations. If you want to make another lake/river/ creek with a whole tile or more, go. ;)

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Gaston on March 28, 2009, 11:35:21 AM
Sweet.   Okay since It is all "unofficial" for me anyway, I wanted to ask for everyone playing.   lol


---Gaston
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Orange Julius on March 28, 2009, 06:13:59 PM
Is joining the GRV closed now? What a shame...it looked pretty fun.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: frostwolf on April 02, 2009, 10:46:13 PM
I agree with Julius; this looks like a whole lot of fun and I wish I'd seen it sooner. C'est la vie. SC4 Mapper isn't compatible with Mac, so far as I know, and I've got a big paper that I *should* be writing, so perhaps it's best that I sit this one out.

Oh, well, there's always next time. In the meantime, I will observe and grin like the Cheshire Cat at all the pretty cities being built. ;D
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on April 03, 2009, 07:25:23 AM
Yeah, sorry guys, GRV II is closed now, but you could always participate in a non official way  and when we have the time we will judge yours the same way.

;)

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: frostwolf on April 03, 2009, 04:01:20 PM
I'm actually trying to figure out how to do just that. Unfortunately, I can't access the map because I'm a mac user without bootcamp. I may be able to figure out a way to run mapper on someone else's computer, if I can get access, but that's not going to be particularly easy.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on April 03, 2009, 08:19:34 PM
frostwolf, I am sorry that I can't help you with that since I don't know what and how a Mac functions.  I don't know anyone that owns a Mac and I haven't even seen a Mac before.... %confuso Can you use The terraformer? Or can you render it with a greyscale map?
Good luck

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: frostwolf on April 03, 2009, 10:16:20 PM
I need a greyscale and a config map to do it on my computer. Neither terraformer or mapper works on a Mac. I do have limited access to public computers running windows, but since they're computers in a college computer lab, I have to be very careful how I use them, and what I use them for. ;) $%#Ninj2
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on April 03, 2009, 10:25:42 PM
The config bmp is no problem for me , but how to do a greyscale from that region is unknown to me, maybe someone else here could help us please. Thanks.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: CasperVg on April 05, 2009, 12:05:16 PM
I just wanted to let everyone know that I have decided to join GRV II in a non-official way. I'm sure I'll have fun doing it  ;)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on April 05, 2009, 01:37:18 PM
 Hey Fred,
Grayscale from your map is quite easy...the terraformer has a button for export in 16 bit greyscale. That's what I use for calculations as they work as an dhm!

SoulChaser
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on April 05, 2009, 05:56:26 PM
I just wanted to let everyone know that I have decided to join GRV II in a non-official way. I'm sure I'll have fun doing it  ;)

Great caspervg, I hope BarbyW will be able to open an unofficial thread thread for unofficial Players.

Hey Fred,
Grayscale from your map is quite easy...the terraformer has a button for export in 16 bit greyscale. That's what I use for calculations as they work as an dhm!

SoulChaser


I will have a look at it later tonight, SoulChaser. I will attach the file in this thread later on , of course if I will be able to make one though.... ;)


Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on April 06, 2009, 02:25:22 PM
IMPORTANT!


I added something to the challenge 2 thread, please read it. My last post on the bottom of page 2.

http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=7370.20

Thanks
 Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: frostwolf on April 07, 2009, 06:50:42 PM
Any luck with the greyscale?

I haven't been having any luck with any of the options open to me. I could always try to hand-terraform, if I had a config.bmp, but that's about all I can do with my old clunker of a computer. ;)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on April 07, 2009, 08:22:40 PM
Any luck with the greyscale?

I haven't been having any luck with any of the options open to me. I could always try to hand-terraform, if I had a config.bmp, but that's about all I can do with my old clunker of a computer. ;)

Terraformer doesn't work on my computer and The Mapper only creates total black images, I don't know why. So getting an original greyscale map from me is impossible. But I tried this: I took a picture in The Mapper and transformed it to a greyscale with irfanview. I don't know if that could work out. You might try it.

I have attached to this post. Let me know and good luck.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: frostwolf on April 07, 2009, 09:07:05 PM
I'll try it out as soon as I can figure out the config.bmp thing, which I'm having a hard time with. At the very least, it'll give me a benchmark to go off of. Thanks! :)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on April 08, 2009, 01:22:54 AM
AS you have some problems:

Here's the exported 16bit greyscale PNG and the config-file

16bit

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9350/grvii.png)

config

(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7807/configy.png)

They greyscale seems a bit dark but it should work! Haven't tried it out.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: frostwolf on April 08, 2009, 03:45:20 AM
A hundred thanks for the greyscale, soulchaser. It didn't quite work as planned but I think with a little judicious use of height mods and terraforming tools, I can get more or less the right idea.

So, it'll take me a couple of days to get up and running, and to play catch up, and hopefully by then the unofficials will have their own board. Thank you to everyone who helped me out with this one, and hope to have something for you soon. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on April 08, 2009, 08:29:02 AM
frostwolf, hope you get it working.

 Now I would like to mention something here this morning and bring to your attention.

Unfortunetly two Players have left us because of RL reasons as they say. I hope that it is not becuase the challenges are too hard or too easy and not interesting enough. I also hope that the timespan allowed of 10 days (including two weekends) is not too short. We can adjust all of this, if necessary.
The third challenge coming up might be disturbing to some and maybe even discouraging. If we need more time for this, we will make it so. The two challenges after Challenge 3 will be based on Challenge 3, so it will be long before we will get back to *normal* less stressing play. We hope that this will not discourage too many players.
If it does, let me know right when we post Challenge 3, we will then cancel it and jump right to Challenge 6. Please let us know if you think that it will stress or discourage you too much, instead of throwing away your towels and leave the GRV II for good.

Thanks


Lynn and Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mightygoose on April 08, 2009, 08:40:42 AM
bring it on, i think it will make a change to be constrained in your playing, im looking forward to the next couple of udpates...
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: BarbyW on April 08, 2009, 09:15:10 AM
I have made a new Board for the unofficial players. I look forward to seeing their screenies of the challenges. Pity they were too late to enter.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: jjune4991 on April 08, 2009, 10:13:33 AM
bring on the stress. some of us people will have finals coming soon, so watch out for many messages from busy people.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: CasperVg on April 08, 2009, 10:40:07 AM
Thanks for the unofficial board, Barby! Gives me a nice spot to show my interpretation of GRV  :)

Shameless advertising: Casper's GRV Doodlings (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=7525.0)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on April 08, 2009, 09:00:51 PM
I may be shaking in my boots a bit but I am ready for the 3rd Challenge!!! OK I am scared|!!!  :D
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on April 08, 2009, 10:01:45 PM
We don't want you to be scared Pat, we just want you to be prepared for the unexpected. This Friday midnight.......when the moon is full......is it? :blahblah:

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mightygoose on April 09, 2009, 06:06:26 AM
it was full moon last night for UK .... spooky...
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: lynncanox on April 10, 2009, 03:48:38 PM
Fred is only scaring you for nothing. The next Challenge is not that bad. It shall be fun.

                                                     Lynn
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on April 10, 2009, 05:27:28 PM
It's all fun......it would also be fun, in my eyes, if you told us to hacve an earthquake in our most developed tile :D (not throwing any bad ideas in :-[ )
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: lynncanox on April 10, 2009, 07:10:26 PM
Don't give us bad ideas soulchaser. We have thought of some good ones by the way.  It will not be boring this time.
                                                             Lynn
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on April 10, 2009, 11:24:38 PM
Please be advised:



The Challenge 2
is now officially closed, except for those who will post tomorrow and have ask for a delay.

For more details go here:

http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=7370.40


Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: frostwolf on April 11, 2009, 04:10:11 PM
Finally got my city started. Kind of naked, I'm afraid; no trees or detail yet, but I've got Challenge 1 up. Challenge 2 to follow shortly.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on April 15, 2009, 03:46:44 PM
Please have a look at the Rule section. An addition to the rules have been added in green characters.

http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=7162.msg227868#msg227868

Thank You

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on April 15, 2009, 11:45:58 PM
Points for the second challenge are all in now and the Pointage sheet is also updated. I also unlocked that topic for everyone wanting to leave a comment.

Please judge my challenge 2 now, the way we judged yours, so I can add my name to the list. This is open to all, players or not. Thanks.

Happy 3rd challenge now and have fun creating it.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on April 23, 2009, 03:40:02 PM
It's so silent around here. Did some more lose interest?
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on April 23, 2009, 09:59:55 PM
It's so silent around here. Did some more lose interest?

Well, I hope not........... I must say like you....it is silent!

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: BarbyW on April 24, 2009, 12:59:31 AM
We are all too busy getting through Challenge 3 for chit-chat. ;D
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on April 24, 2009, 08:08:06 AM
I don't know, but it's starting to look like either everyone is waiting for the last minute and then pm me and ask for a little time-extension, or we scared the heck out of most Players with challenge 3. Is this challenge that difficult?....... ??? Wondering now maybe I should re-write Challenge 4?.......lol  &Thk/(

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: BarbyW on April 24, 2009, 09:58:38 AM
It isn't that difficult and I think the rest of them are a lot of wimps. ;D

Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on April 24, 2009, 10:44:47 AM
The most difficult thing was the choice of pics. I didn't want to show anything twice nor forget anything important.
Maybe most of them are waiting for the last day because they don't want to inspire any opponents ;)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on April 24, 2009, 11:13:26 AM
I may be waiting for the last minute, but I have no intention of asking for a time extension. Finals approach (and papers are coming due, etc) which has been keeping my busy. The challenge is fine as it is, and I should have some pics for you all by the end of the weekend.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: MandelSoft on April 24, 2009, 12:18:20 PM
In my case, I'm just busy with other things (but don't worry, I'll post my Challenge 3 on time)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: TheTeaCat on April 24, 2009, 04:46:02 PM
working on it  :thumbsup: shall be in on time :thumbsup: RL caught up a bit.  ::)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mightygoose on April 24, 2009, 05:21:01 PM
i had surgery tuesday, only a hernia repair but should get my update 3 done in time  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: metarvo on April 24, 2009, 06:54:24 PM
I had a little case of RL this week, but I am still working on it.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on April 24, 2009, 09:00:33 PM
.....sounds good folks! Can't wait to get active again......now, maybe I will be able to get Lynn out of her garden for a couple of hours..... ;)

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: dedgren on April 24, 2009, 09:21:46 PM
Quote
It isn't that difficult and I think the rest of them are a lot of wimps.  ;D

Sheesh, ma'am.  SC4 played for keeps.  The Terminatrix.

...you are only inspiring us all to greater endeavor...


David
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: tooheys on April 25, 2009, 01:30:16 AM
Well my challenge is now posted, took my time and ignored the taunts of "The Terminatrix"  ;D

Hey Fred, just one thing. As part of your description of Challenge 3, you suggested that we show some of our own work (LE etc).
I found this a bit difficult as we were limited to five pics to show development in the region, there wasn't any scope for close-ups, in my case anyway. I know it's not an actual task for Challenge 3, but perhaps we could be allowed two extra pic's in each challenge to showoff anything we consider of interest.

Just a thought

Dave
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: lynncanox on April 25, 2009, 10:20:01 AM
tooheys

There will be another time that you will be asked for to show pictures of Your custom lots. This time it is not a obligation. The maximum pictures are 5 for this challenge only, because it will be too much work to see all the pictures of everybody and juge them properly. I hope You understand.

The weather is nice and beautiful here in Québec and I am often in the garden, but not always like mrb says. He always exagerate.
Fred is gone fishing for the today, I think it is open for trout today.

                                   Lynn
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mike3775 on May 05, 2009, 07:12:29 AM
All I can say is that all the cities look wonderful and I wish I had 1/10th of the dedication to making beautiful cities like everyone participating in this challenge is doing. 

When I play the game, I try to avoid the "grid" and use the land features, but over time, I end up going into "grids" and the cities turn horrible, to the point I destroy the cities and start over again and again.

Great job by everyone, and I love the challenges that have been presented so far, looking forward to part 5 and seeing what the governor has in mind  :)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: turtle on May 05, 2009, 09:25:12 AM
Hey mike.
I also found myself doing that, which is kind of why I participate. I think the challenges keeps me more focused. So if you're up to posting once in a while, you definately should play the next time GRV comes around. It is really great fun :)

Lynn, I'm not sure I understand correctly, but are you implying that we at some point will be challenged to show off our own custom lots?

thomas
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on May 05, 2009, 12:28:34 PM
Lynn is busy judging Challenge 3....lol....so I will reply to your question Turtle.
Yes, there will be a time when you need to show your customlots, whether they are BATs, Lots made in the LE or just several lots plopped together to make a bigger one, something like a park etc. Everyone will be able to do something like this and we are not asking to go and learn how to BAT.
These will be judged in three categories to give everybody a chance, but we get to that later. Of course we won't tell you the *hick* though.......hehehe.......
Remember every challenge upwards will be a little harder until you drop dead, no until the end of it all.
                                                           ;)
Good luck

Thanks Mike 3775 for dropping in and leaving a comment.



Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on May 06, 2009, 02:22:50 PM
I'll be leaving for the airport to Germany, Holland and Poland in two hours, so from here on Lynn will take over.
Hope you can all handle this without me......lol.....like big boys and girls. Be back on Monday and if I have the time I will drop in with my portable once in awhile now that I have Saty connection.

Good luck

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on May 06, 2009, 04:32:03 PM
We'll try to keep it together for you (now that we've all split apart, heh heh). Enjoy your trip Fred.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on May 11, 2009, 02:10:32 PM
Well, I'm back and I see Lynn did a good job in keeping the peace. ;) Thanks Lynn.

Now, may I remind you all that the limit for challenge 4 is next sunday night ( May 17th, 2009 at midnight NY time) and there will be no delays unless you have one heck of a good reason that you didn't have the time to fulfill the demands of your separatists in 2 weeks!
I hope that this will work out fine this time within the timelimits stated. Thanks.

I see that Lynn has managed to post all the points for every individual that I have finished earlier last week before leaving and tonight I will post the updated pointagesheet.

Good luck everyone,

Fred

EDIT: Please go and judge my challenge 3 now. Thank you
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: BarbyW on May 11, 2009, 02:35:25 PM
Good to see you back, Fred, although we didn't miss you ;D - Lynn looked after things very well indeed.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on May 16, 2009, 07:51:10 PM
BarbyW, Thanks for missing me thaaaaat much..... ;)

Reminder for those who have not posted their challenge 4 yet:

There's a little over 24 hours left to do so. I will be patient and maybe give you some extra hours, but in the morning of monday (NYtime) I will post the challenge 5 and everything posted after this will NOT be taken into consideration of judging.
Sorry, but we have no other choice, you had two weeks to make this challenge, that was more than enough even for the busiest fellow, like me.

Here are those who have not finished it yet:

mrbisonm.....I will upload it tomorrow, most of it is done.
XiahouDun
The_Hutt
Wouanagaine
mightygoose
Turtle
io_bg
Cabrabuitre
antn
dedgren
jmouse
Threestooges
JJ



Make sure that you have it posted soon enough. Thanks.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: zzsteven on May 16, 2009, 10:16:56 PM
I've completed .

zz
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: tooheys on May 17, 2009, 01:15:09 AM
I'm done.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: turtle on May 17, 2009, 05:43:58 PM
Allright, I'm there as well.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on May 17, 2009, 10:51:07 PM
Thanks folks. :thumbsup: Me too I'm done.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on May 18, 2009, 11:21:27 AM
Can't wait for challenge V, the big V (maybe Vendetta? ;) )
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on May 18, 2009, 12:25:32 PM
LoL Soulchaser

V for Vendetta hmmm......

(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2710/vendettabt.jpg)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: JJ on May 18, 2009, 12:40:26 PM
I have posted my challenge 4?

What would I be missing?
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 02, 2009, 08:20:20 PM
I would like for everyone to know why we haven't posted the judging of Challenge 4 yet.

Lynn was gone for almost a week to visit her mother, a woman in her eighties. She came back this last weekend for a day only to return to see her mother on Monday morning. Her mother is quite sick at the moment with a cold of some kind and at her age it isn't easy it seems. Besides Lynn is very close to her.
My judging has been finished and I am waiting for hers now.  As soon as I have her judging which should be soon as she said, I will then post them in your challenge 4 thread.
We are sorry for the delay, but these things come naturally before the play, and we hope that you all understand.
Let's hope that things will get back into order soon. This will not delay the ending of Challenge 5, nor the the next Challenge which will both be on time.

Remember that being late for challenge 5 will be penalized. ;)

Thank you


Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on June 02, 2009, 11:59:21 PM
That's no problem at all Fred. Real life comes first. I hope all is well with Lynn's mother.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: BarbyW on June 03, 2009, 01:39:50 AM
I wish Lynn's mother well, Fred. Don't worry about the marking as we are having fun anyway.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Jmouse on June 03, 2009, 04:23:30 AM
Absolutely no apologies are necessary, Fred. Family and RL come first for all of us, and that's the way it should be. Please tell Lynn she and her mother are in our thoughts, and we send best wishes for a quick recovery.

Later...

Joan
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 03, 2009, 07:41:04 PM
I just talked to Lynn on the phone and told her your wishes, she thanks you. Her mother is doing better, she should be out of the hospital by tomorrow night she said.
Like I said before, the game goes on, judging will be later. I finished Challenge 6 a week ago and just now I finished Challenge 7 also. Woohoo, this will be fun! ;)

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on June 03, 2009, 07:51:50 PM
You left out the sinister laughter after the word fun, heh heh. Glad to hear things are going well will Lynn and her mother too.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: TheTeaCat on June 06, 2009, 03:14:58 PM
I finished Challenge 6 a week ago and just now I finished Challenge 7 also. Woohoo, this will be fun! ;)

Does this mean the separatist's have been scared by the military installations?
And they won't feature in the next 2 challenges?

wandering off to stick on the kettle for a nice brew ;D
Anyone else fancy one?

 :satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 06, 2009, 05:41:03 PM
Does this mean the separatist's have been scared by the military installations?
And they won't feature in the next 2 challenges?

wandering off to stick on the kettle for a nice brew ;D
Anyone else fancy one?

 :satisfied:
TTC

I think that it means that I finished clean-writing the next two challenges (ready to upload)....and not playing them, since I play in the same delay as everyone else. Sorry for not having explained it in a clearer way.

But keep that kettle close, we might need it to heat water and desinfect all the wounds of our soldiers..... ;)

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: TheTeaCat on June 06, 2009, 06:04:46 PM
But keep that kettle close, we might need it to heat water and disinfect all the wounds of our soldiers..... ;)
Fred

I understand now, Keep the kettle boiling ;D
Aye Aye Guv'nor :thumbsup:

Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on June 06, 2009, 08:32:29 PM
ooooh man sounds like the roars of the battle front are coming!!! I am still in Montana till sunday morning and from what it sounds the family will be taking its time getting back to Rhinelander.... I should be back home on my home computer by tuesday at the latest!! Fred, If its acceptable for me to post my challenge 5 on Wednesday???
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: metarvo on June 06, 2009, 09:49:55 PM
I submitted mine yesterday.  This was the first time I have ever built a military base in SC4 ( :o ) so it was a new experience for me.  I just hope that the soldiers are able to protect what's left of my region, since the next challenge is starting to sound scary.  ::)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 07, 2009, 04:33:47 PM
ooooh man sounds like the roars of the battle front are coming!!! I am still in Montana till sunday morning and from what it sounds the family will be taking its time getting back to Rhinelander.... I should be back home on my home computer by tuesday at the latest!! Fred, If its acceptable for me to post my challenge 5 on Wednesday???

It will be accepted, but you will get one penalty point , plus you will NOT receive the Bonuspoint for having posted before the timelimit, hope you understand. Good luck and make sure you come back in one piece...  ;)

Metarvo, we are glad that you have had a chance to build a military concept with us for the first time, but don't panic, the Governor will NOT let any rivals take over the rest of the region, now that we are about ot really show them what we got, right?

I will be posting the new challenge late tonight, after midnight (NY time) Again , this will be something new and different and we hope you will like it enough to keep our game going. ;)

Fred

EDIT:  Remember that you have a little over 6 hours left to get your Bonus point for updating before the deadline and not getting a penalty point for being late.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: TheTeaCat on June 07, 2009, 04:52:04 PM
Dear Fred,

I may have to pull out of the contest as I have received some very sad news.
My Father passed away at 8.45pm this evening and I have to leave to be with my Family.
I am making arrangements for travel shortly and do not as yet have a return date.
I shall keep you informed when I can.

Regards
Derry
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: CabraBuitre on June 07, 2009, 05:35:23 PM
I give you my condolences Derry.  My prayers will be with you and your family.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on June 07, 2009, 09:30:57 PM
Fred thank you and I soo understand... Derry my friend I am sorry for you loss this past week has been hell apperntly... I lost my uncle on Monday and so my deepest heartfelts condolances to you!!!
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 07, 2009, 10:01:10 PM
Very sorry to hear this Derry. All our condolences to you and the family. My father died when I was 18 yo right in front of me, so I understand it fully. Courage and hope to see you back and whenever you want you may continue then, or not. Good luck and walk with your head up.

Fred and Lynn
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: lynncanox on June 08, 2009, 08:13:28 AM
Hi Dear Derry friend,

  I heard this terrible news this morning from Fred at breakfast. I am very sorry to hear this. I give you all my condoléances and I hope to see You again soon. We feel with You.

  Greetings

Lynn
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: jmyers2043 on June 09, 2009, 06:38:53 AM
You are in my thoughts, Derry. I am saddened by your loss.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: frostwolf on June 10, 2009, 08:56:09 PM
Derry, my condolences and prayers for you and your family.

Just wanted to drop a line on the board and say that I'm also throwing in the towel. I don't have the time to play right now. I'll try to come back for GRVIII, but no promises. It's been a lot of fun, and I'll still be lurking on the boards now and then, but I need the time for other projects (like getting a job).

Best of luck to all of you.

-David
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 11, 2009, 09:01:45 AM
Derry, my condolences and prayers for you and your family.

Just wanted to drop a line on the board and say that I'm also throwing in the towel. I don't have the time to play right now. I'll try to come back for GRVIII, but no promises. It's been a lot of fun, and I'll still be lurking on the boards now and then, but I need the time for other projects (like getting a job).

Best of luck to all of you.

-David

Sorry to hear this David. Good luck in finding a job and come back whenever you like.
Now I am starting to wonder if the challenges are too hard and exagerated (so many are throwing in the towel).......or is it that they have become dull and less fun?

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on June 11, 2009, 09:56:50 AM
Fred, I think it's because it takes a bit more than 2 hours per challenge;) It took me more then 6hrs for the last one because I wasn't satisfied with the results. At last posting the pics takes 1 hour.

Maybe I'll invest less time in this challenge, cause my final thesis for my Bachelor Degree has to be finished on monday 29th.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on June 11, 2009, 12:43:33 PM
The challenges are certainly fun. They have been a bit time consuming though. Three weeks is a lot of time, but I found myself going right up to the limit to get everything ordered, plus the sepratist's demands. However, this challenge seems substantially simpler (just a lot of super-detail work). Just my thoughts on the issue.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 11, 2009, 02:48:53 PM
I know that the last challenge of the separatists took more than 2 hours, it took me 4 or 5 if I remember right, sorry about this.
Now for the futur challenges, they will be less timeconsuming and should be able to do within two or three hours max, while giving you 2 full weeks to do so. Hope not too many leave us 'till then....... :(

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on June 11, 2009, 04:55:16 PM
I have no problem with this, as I'm not participating for winning....only for fun......I love your ideas and detailed challenges....

Thanks Lynn and Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Jmouse on June 11, 2009, 05:21:17 PM
The GRV II Challenge is supposed to be challenging - no one promised an easy ride. Some of the projects, such as the military installations, were entirely new to me so finishing them was bound to take more time. Still, I joined for the learning experience and I'm getting just what I bargained for.

I think we have a strong core group now,
and IMO it's unlikely many more will drop out. At the moment I have a hotel to manage, though, so if you'll excuse me... ;)

Later...
Joan

Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on June 11, 2009, 05:37:09 PM
Indeed, what the mouse said. You won't get rid of me that easily, heh heh.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 11, 2009, 06:48:36 PM
....lol....sounds good, Partners.  We will then continue to go on like it was supposed to. It will be easier for the next 3 challenges. The last one will be a difficult one though.....sorry....
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: jmyers2043 on June 11, 2009, 07:37:07 PM
Hello Fred.

The challenges are very interesting. They stretch my imagination. I am busy in gmax doing things other than barn buildings. And I have you to thank. I am grateful for those that remain and I am privileged to be a part of a project where some of the best of the best have come to display and compare mayor skills.

My brain has been tinkering and wondering if this can give birth to other co-operative things. Some years ago the BSC used to play small regions as a group project. From that we learned how others played the game and learned how to make better things for the community. Could GRV be a spring board to a type of co-op play? Just thinking out loud.

BTW - I must say that I appreciate your effort. Some have left for reason. I am grateful that they participated as much as they could. But you are spending more time than the rest of us. Maintaining the forums, answering questions, judging the entries, posting the results, playing the challenges, thinking up the challenges. . .  the list of your chores probably goes on. So - here is a warm South Carolina YEEE! HAAA! which means, thank you.

Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on June 11, 2009, 10:02:54 PM
I will get my challenge 5 up ASAP as soon as my computer co-operates with me long enough.... by computer I mean my brain lol, I am soo burnt from the round trip (3200 miles) and the funeral stuff but I have been trying to finish up what my orders where....
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: CabraBuitre on June 11, 2009, 10:55:57 PM
I, too, am working on finishing up and posting.  I just played for two straight hours and had things almost done... and then, as I was saving the last part had a CTD   :'(

SO frustrating.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on June 12, 2009, 01:03:53 AM
Ive been suffering that a lot with the new machine Cabra... I dunno if its cause of Vista or just me???
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: CabraBuitre on June 12, 2009, 01:56:33 AM
I think so.  I found a tutorial that is supposed to help... found HERE (http://docrorlach.webng.com/downloads/sc4%20repacking%20tutorial.pdf)

I haven't tried it yet, but it seems like it works...

I never had any of these problems with my old comp running XP.  It runs great when running (my old comp had tons of lag)... but sometimes it trips and falls and I lose everything I just did!
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 12, 2009, 08:56:26 AM
Frustrating you say?....Geeez, the last time it happened to me I almost shot my computer, but I couldn't find my 12 gauge at the time.....lol  :angrymore:

Thanks everyone for the positive comments, I was only wondering how many would leave before we end this challenge. GRV I at Simtrop last year finished by BarbyW being the only one that toughed it to the end. Hey Jim, thanks, your comment and opinion is much appreciated and we are surely glad you enjoy GRV II as do most others.
I can understand those who left the challenge, because most had reasonable real life situations that made them do so, and RL being rough and tough once in awhile, we can surely feel with you. For those who are not with us anymore, we're wishing you good luck in whatever you are doing or planning to do at the moment. Hope to see you in GRV III, if we decide to make it.

Note:
Right now Lynn is about to do all her judging of Challenge 4  at the moment and we should have the results out by Monday. I am about to judge Challenge 5 now and wow......some of the best updates I have ever seen on GRV. Amazing stuff! Did you guys visit everyone of the players yet? If not, hoho....go ahead, it's worth it! Some good stuff there, some of it I even thought impossible to do.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on June 13, 2009, 09:17:23 PM
Yeah, I don't think you'll have to worry about Barby winning by default this time. She might still win, but we'll give her a run for her money, heh heh.

Sorry to hear about the CTD's cabra. I had a fair few myself (apparently the game can CTD if you rapidly zoom and moving the mouse while scrolling through a menu is a good way to accidentally do just that) this last challenge. Not sure if it makes it any better, but at least you know how it all fits together now.

I have to say this challenge is much more relaxing Fred. Looking forward to what's down the road.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on June 13, 2009, 11:43:19 PM
cabra thanks for that!!! I read it over and I cant find for the likes of me the SimCity4.exe file gaaaaaaaaaaaah...
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: CabraBuitre on June 14, 2009, 12:26:34 AM
I just had trouble finding it at first myself.  The path was easy with my XP machine...

Go to your start button, then Computer, then choose the drive that has your hard drive with SC4 on it (for me it is the C: drive, labeled OS), then Program Files, then Maxis, SimCity4 Deluxe, and you should find it inside that folder. 

For whatever reason, when I went to the start button and selected "All Programs" at the bottom, I found Maxis and SC4... but couldn't find the right file either.  But the above path should get you there!

Let me know how it works for you... I haven't tried it yet.  I'm still trying to finish everything up and actually post my Challenge 5!
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on June 14, 2009, 03:02:56 AM
I still cant find it gaah!!!  Is it label exactly simcity4.exe or is it something else?
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 14, 2009, 10:43:36 AM
Pat, if you're looking for the Simcity4.exe file to play, it is in:

Programfiles/Maxis/Simcity4/Apps and it is simply called Simcity or Simcity.exe

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on June 14, 2009, 02:12:35 PM
ahhh haaaa the light bulb clicks lol thanks fred....
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: CabraBuitre on June 14, 2009, 08:11:44 PM
Finally got my challenge #5 posted!!
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on June 14, 2009, 08:50:29 PM
I can finally work on getting my pics for challenge 5 wooohooo!!! Cabra if I could give you a K-point right now for directing me to that fix by Peter I would soo right now!!!! Thanks a million!!!! Fred if I could give you one too I would as well cause dang finding that file was a pain and it was just that SimCity 4 lol!!!
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: CabraBuitre on June 14, 2009, 10:09:11 PM
Did it work?  I haven't actually done it myself.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Diggis on June 15, 2009, 05:42:52 AM
I can finally work on getting my pics for challenge 5 wooohooo!!! Cabra if I could give you a K-point right now for directing me to that fix by Peter I would soo right now!!!! Thanks a million!!!! Fred if I could give you one too I would as well cause dang finding that file was a pain and it was just that SimCity 4 lol!!!

You might not be able to, but I can.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: turtle on June 15, 2009, 10:07:34 AM
Sorry to hear this David. Good luck in finding a job and come back whenever you like.
Now I am starting to wonder if the challenges are too hard and exagerated (so many are throwing in the towel).......or is it that they have become dull and less fun?

Fred

I meant to reply to this earlier. I really like the challenges, though more time consuming than anticipated as some have mentioned, they do really add to the playing of SC4. They are inspirering and I feel that since the game has taken a kind of sandbox dimension for me, these challenges bring the game back into SC4. Thank you for your big effort in this. I really do appreciate it.

Thomas
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Diggis on June 15, 2009, 10:47:35 AM
Agreed,  I'm sorry I had to drop out, but it had nothing to do with the game and more to do with me not managing to balance my life very well and something had to give.  I've enjoyed looking at the challenges as they are done, and, despite having dropped out, am still having a small input where I can.  ;)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: TheTeaCat on June 15, 2009, 02:41:36 PM
Thank you all for your kind words.

Richard, my Father passed away peacefully with a smile on his face, a tear in his eye and loved ones at his side.
Now happily reunited with Finola my Mother and Peter my Brother may they rest in peace.

He was the kindest and most gentle man you could meet. A devoted husband of 33 years and loving father.
A deeply religious man who always tried to see the good in people. He never raised his voice, lost his temper
or raised a fist no matter how much I tested him. I shall miss his wisdom advice and help.

Thank you all once again for your words of comfort.

regards
Derry
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on June 15, 2009, 06:06:49 PM
Cabra yuppers it works now like a charm!!!

Shaun thank you for handing out those K-points for me... Also we must all make choices and you made the best choice for yourself!!!

Derry your a great man an your soo welcomed.... Take your time and I truly mean it if you need anything from a shoulder to someone to rant at, look me up...



EDIT:

LoL Cabra its scary your gaining some rep around here oooh boy lol.... You deserved it man!!! You helped me out in a time of crisis by pointing me to that tutorial by Peter...
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: CabraBuitre on June 15, 2009, 10:06:18 PM
Uh oh... I'm starting to get a "reputation" around here...   :D

I'll have to give it a shot when I have the chance.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 16, 2009, 12:41:29 AM
I think once in awhile it is ok to sound kinda dumb, so here I go and ask: What is that reputation thing anyways and how does that work ?  ()what()


Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on June 16, 2009, 12:46:14 AM
It's basically a way to acknowledge something someone has done around the site (increased for good things, decreased for bad). It used to be that anyone could give it, but there were some incidents. The decision was made to keep the system, but only allow certain folks (as I understand it, most moderators and on up from there) to give it. Therefore, if you don't have the option to give "karma" as it's called here, just shoot a PM to one of the staff members and they can do it for you. We try to give it where it is warranted, but even we can't keep up with everything, so if you (and this goes for folks in general) need anything done, just pass the word along and we'll see what we can do.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 16, 2009, 09:09:54 AM
Thanks for clearing that up, Matt. I have always wondered what it meant.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Diggis on June 16, 2009, 09:23:01 AM
It's generally the Global Mods and a few of the site mods (as opposed to the team or board mods) who have the power.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 16, 2009, 07:59:46 PM
So, if I would like someone to get a reputation point and I think he merritts it, I contact you or any other Global Moderator, right?

Hey, give one to jim myers because this guy is all over the place and comments positively on every upload of the members of the GRV II Challenge. He really earned it imo.

Thanks

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Diggis on June 17, 2009, 02:28:46 AM
Sure, although I would suggest that you do it by PM for something like this, unless, like Pat, you are commenting directly below and event that warrents it.  ;)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Splime on June 17, 2009, 10:30:29 AM
Just so all of you are aware, I will be unable to participate in GRV II for at least 3 weeks, because my computer decided to stop working. (Details of the exact problem are in my Barsalargonia thread). Normally that would only be an issue for a few days, but it's been perfectly timed for the week before I go on a 10 day vacation to Florida, so I'll only have time to work on the problem when I get back. This means I may not have Challenge 7 done in time for the deadline, but we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 17, 2009, 09:41:07 PM
No problem splime, it will be noted, besides challenge 7 will be small and will span over a longer period, because some of us will be leaving on vacation for two weeks. I am re-writing challenge 7 as we speak for that purpose.

We still haven't finished the judging yet, because Lynn and I have a lot of other things to do at the moment, but hopefully it will be done before the next challenge is published.


Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: jmyers2043 on June 24, 2009, 12:46:42 PM
Hello Fred.

This challenge 6 has proven to be very entertaining. I had my nose to the proverbial grinding stone these past two weeks. Been working some overtime plus I was traveling this past fathers day weekend. I've not been keeping up with the updates as they were posted. I took some time this morning and went through them all. Boy oh boy! There are some good ones. A lot of creativity here at GRVII.

Best Regards - Jim Myers

Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 24, 2009, 09:48:07 PM
Glad you enjoyed Challenge 6, Jim. ;)


Now, I have to announce that we will have until next sunday (june 28th) to fulfill our challenge 6. This time I myself will be late and get no Bonus points. All those that have posted their challenge 6 before tonight midnight will get 1 point (bonus points) added to their challenge points.

Right now we are so busy at the moment that we are stressing out irl. I have never in my entire life had to supervise so many construction sites as this year. And I thought it would be the worst in my life with all that tralala going on about the world economy etc.
Tomorrow I have 3 sites to visit and see if things go to the right direction, but in all, I usually have about 1 to 2 sites in 2 weeks  in the past years....lol...this year....hang on, I am counting........something like 6 to 8 a week. Understand why I am about to go nuts?.....lol

So hang on in there partners of GRV II, I will be with you soon. Lynn has finished all the judging for challenge 4 and 5, now I have to but these things on paper into the computer and calculate the total and upload the info.

Something else. There is no *real* challenge coming up by next sunday night, it will be all *free for all* and I will explain it later. We still have 4 more challenges coming up, some good ones and one darn difficult one......uhhhh, you're gonna hate us for that one.... ;).

Challenge No 7 will come on July 11th, hope you can wait 'till then, but don't worry, we will keep you a little busy during that time.

See you soon

Lynn and Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on June 24, 2009, 10:36:36 PM
Fred I so can see why you are going nuts there... I know the feeling as my aunt is not doing well so I had to go out of town on this last saturday and it seems I will be going again this saturday... But I should have my challenge 6 up soon...  Take care and dont go totally nuts OK!!!
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: metarvo on June 29, 2009, 08:50:01 AM
RL has taken a sudden turn for me, and it may be Thursday before I get Challenge 6 done.  I have been working on it, but these things happen this time of year.  &mmm
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on June 29, 2009, 07:16:05 PM
Long story short, the HD thing didn't exactly fix the problem, however, I'm back on my old laptop now and, as a result, my Challenge 6 is now finished and posted in full. I'll get around to commenting on the others here shortly.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on June 29, 2009, 07:34:49 PM
ooooh no Matt that sucks!!! But I am glad you do still have a computer at least.....
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on July 15, 2009, 11:27:25 PM
Challenge 7 is now posted

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Splime on July 20, 2009, 07:38:35 PM
I hate to say this, but I don't think I'll be continuing the GRV II. Challenge 6A hasn't really been enjoyable, since I've had to cut a lot of corners to reach the population in the given time, and I'm not really pleased with the result (which isn't actually at 125k yet). I'd rather set my own pace with these things, as the GRV II has begun to feel more like work and less like fun. (It's not just challenge 6A though, as it seems like the last few challenges will also be demanding.) Also, I'll be in college in about a month, and probably won't have the time to complete the last challenges.

The first half of the GRV II was really fun, but now that it is more demanding, I think I'll resign and spend my time with Barsalargonia instead. (In fact, that's what I've been doing for the past few days.) Thanks to mrbisonm and lyncannox for their great hosting, and good luck with the rest of the game.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on July 20, 2009, 10:34:44 PM
Sorry to hear this splime, it wasn't meant to be to cause this though. The next challenges are more of a challenges as they are *hard work* as you call it. Nevertheless, we hope that you might reconsider your decision with time and come back later.
If not, we wish you lots of luck with whatever you have in mind for futur plans.

I personally hope that we didn't *kill* the fun of the challenges with challenge 6a, but in our opinion it was necessary so that the following challenges would become *challenges* and not just a plopping festival..............


If you can't bring up the region population to 125K, we will accept 80K as a minimum.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on July 21, 2009, 01:53:52 AM
Since it seems like several folks have had difficulties with getting their population up (heck Greenacre is barely over 200k and that took me the better part of... or was it more than... a year to do) would it be possible to lump the population demand under Challenge 7 and its respective deadline? I can say from a personal perspective that, short of doing a major sprawl of lifeless high density residential (which might actually fit with my regional plans to some extent), I won't have the population part done for at least another day or so.

Then again, others were able to make the deadline, so it might not be fair to those that did finish on time if slowpokes like me get to benefit from the relaxed timeline. Either way, I thought I'd offer it as a suggestion.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on July 21, 2009, 10:49:25 PM
Your suggestion sounds reasonable, Matt.
Here is what we'll do.
Challenge 6A, the population demand will only be counted for , and judged as, after challenge 10. This way we will all have plenty of time to get the population up with the other challenges.

We didn't think it would become this difficult to bring up the population to 125,000 until I relaized myself that it is, while I am myself not ready yet for the 125,000 population limit, only having reached 110,000 at this moment. For those who already have reached that limit, a Bonus point will be added to their totals.

Good luck and don't worry you'll survive easily all the other challenges to come.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on July 21, 2009, 11:08:25 PM
Thanks for that Fred. Easy is a relative term. For people like me who don't tend to make dense cities, cranking on the population is probably one of the harder challenges yet. Glad to hear you'l be giving out soe bonus points too. Any sign of when we'll hear about some formal scoring from the governor's office for the previous challenges? I'd like to see what the scoring rubric should look like. Thanks Fred, that takes a fair bit of pressure off.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on July 22, 2009, 02:15:18 PM
Well, I hope it will loosen up some pressure for some of us. The game was supposed to be fun and nothing else but fun, so we better keep it that way. It is quite understandable that someone will have certain difficulties with something they haven't done yet or are not used to do it, like the population blast in Challenge 6A.
Anyways, we will keep it easy and more pleasurable from now on, plus keeping though the the livelyness of the challenge.

We were and still are working on the points for the last challenges, some are finished and finalized, but still have to be transferred from papers to the computer, which is still quite a job and demands a lot of free time, something that I and especially Lynn don't have at this time with her mother being weak since a few months.

I will make sure that I get all the stuff that we finished on paper to the computer within the next ten days at most, even if I have to work overtime....;) I know 4 and 5 are complete and 6 I have finished myself and I am only waiting for Lynn to judge most of it.


Have fun folks.....

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: MandelSoft on August 28, 2009, 05:04:28 AM
I would like to withdraw myself from the GRV II. It's just too much for me, because I've several projects running and then the GRV becomes a unwanted obligation. Sorry guys, but I'm just too busy to keep up my version of the Bordertown region.  ()sad()
 
Best,
Maarten
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on August 29, 2009, 05:43:08 AM
Just to let you know, I'm still in. Just having a bit of a time picking Resources (I was hoping to do tourism with a wine country, and meatpacking/cattle, but it seems those are "Farming"). I have pretty much everything else set, so once I get those straightened out, I'll have my challenge posted.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: CabraBuitre on August 29, 2009, 09:14:21 PM
And I'm (finally) working steadily on mine too!
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: lynncanox on August 30, 2009, 01:34:48 PM
Good to hear that some of you are still on this project. We just come back from a 4 week vacation on friday night. It was nice. Fred left this morning on a last summer fishing trip and he is back before this week ends. We will both be on the job starting next weekend.
I am sorry that you are ending the challenge ,mrtnrln, maybe you will find some time later to come back.

See you soon
Lynn

Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: jmyers2043 on August 30, 2009, 08:17:51 PM
Hello Fred and Lynn. Good to hear that you're back. Marion and I spent time in France, England, and Scotland during August. I took pictures of a whole bunch of stone walls and slate roofs for textures for future bats  ::)  I'm useless  :D  That's me, standing in front of Dunnator Castle in Scotland.


(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s26/jmyers2043/Scotland_03.jpg)


Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: metarvo on August 30, 2009, 11:37:55 PM
I'm still working on Challenge 7, but it will probably be tomorrow when I get it posted.  I've had a lot of things going on the last two weeks.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: lynncanox on September 01, 2009, 01:10:22 AM
 That castle in Scotland looks great. We have never visited to Scotland. Maybe I will suggest for next year.
  We usually go to New Zealand twice a year, our favourite, but this year we stayed in Canada only. A lot of things to see in our own land. We had fun for the last 4 weeks.
 It is nice to put a face on a name like yours, good to see you Jim Myers. I don't know how to upload pictures, but I will ask Fred when he comes back.

  Don't worry metarvo, Fred has not send in his 6 or 7 update also. He will soon.

  Ciao
  Lynn
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on September 06, 2009, 12:45:07 PM
Hey, we're back.......I mean, I am back since Lynn came back last weekend. Sorry about my (our) absense during the last months, but the summer was too nice to be on the internet and as you all know, we had a 5 week vacation visiting Canada from east to west.
Now that we're back, I will start transferring all the pointages for the last challenges to my computer and hopefully by Wednesday or thursday, I will upload it to the threads. Once that is all done (probably by the weekend) we will offer you Challenge Nr 8 and hopefully be back to normal after that. The recommandation to give a whole month to fulfill the challenges is an excellent idea, it will give you time enough for the challenges and us time enought to judge and organize them. So it will be.

Hope we still have some left to play the game or maybe those who left durting the summer will have more time this fall to catch us up.
I myself haven't finished Challenge 7 and 7A yet. Geeez, never thought that the population challenge was sooooo hard to accomplish. We will give extra points with recognition to those who made it in time and even those who were a little late for this specific challenge.
The coming challenges to come will be easier, maybe one.....will be a little harder than thought, we'll see and maybe give you all some extra time (and points) for that one. Good luck.

Lynn asked me to upload a picture of both of us so you can put a face on those names. Well here it is, Lynn and me, on vacation in New Brunswick having one very fresh Lobster dinner....wow, that was good.....I know I look older than I am, but I am only 18 yo, ok?

Welcome back


Fred

(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5535/56838.jpg)

@jmyers2043
Nice to see you and wow, some nice ruins, never been in Scotland.....have to go one day I guess.


Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on September 06, 2009, 12:58:39 PM
great you two are back now. Hope you had a great tour and relaxed in your freetime.

I'm still waiting for the next Challenge. And 7a: Did I miss something?  :P you're talking of 6a, I hope...

Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on September 06, 2009, 04:16:47 PM
Welcome back Fred! You haven't scared us off yet (though sadly I still haven't posted my pictures for 7... the work's done, just ened to get them uploaded, ah well... today should have time for it). Glad to hear you enjoyed your vacation. If it makes you feel any better about the population, I'm still sorking on the 125k, but I do have the 40k in one tile. Nice lobster too.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on September 06, 2009, 10:45:48 PM
Yeah, sorry about the 7A, it is the 6A that I meant and you didn't miss anything btw soulchaser. We had a wonderful vacation and are both in topshape to continue this.

40k in one tile is excellent, threestooges.....lol....I haven't reached that yet.

;)
 Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on September 07, 2009, 03:05:25 PM
It took some hammering and a bit of bending of the rules I set for the differences between north and south (north being dense with vertical growth and south being largely low density sprawl to take advantage of its copious comparative amounts of flat land) and have a few apartments down there, but yeah, it's there (phew).

I also wanted to let you know that I've posted my Challenge 7 pictures as well (I just edited my old post which means it wouldn't show as anything new, so I wanted to let you know here).

Curious to see what's coming next.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: metarvo on September 08, 2009, 12:19:26 AM
Hi, Fred, welcome back!  I completed Challenge 7 last week, and it is posted.  This one wasn't so bad, but the hard part was coming up with so many pictures.  :)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on September 08, 2009, 08:55:33 AM
Sorry for making your life so difficult ( ;) ).......lol.....We reviewed the rest of the Challenges last night and we have altered some of them a little. Now they should be more acceptable.
Challenge 8 should be online by tomorrow night. I also started transferring the judgements from paper to computer last night, so the first points should be in your threads by tomorrow also, or maybe thursday at the latest.

Glad you both (3stooges and metarvo) made it with challenge 7, geeez , I still have to find a way (and time) to finish my population in that region.

We haven't looked at all the pictures of challenge 7 yet, but it seems that some of you really have worked hard on this, and believe me when I say that I really understand it.

Tonight we'll be overviewing the judgements of 4 and 5 and make some minor changes if necessary before uploading them.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Sparrowsraven21 on September 08, 2009, 04:34:36 PM
MrB

Would It be acceptable that Since I am wayyyy to late to join the Challege, I can Use the region and some of the challenges im a CJ? I would very much like to show my progress as I try to play through the challenges on my own
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: lynncanox on September 09, 2009, 10:15:53 AM
MrB

Would It be acceptable that Since I am wayyyy to late to join the Challege, I can Use the region and some of the challenges im a CJ? I would very much like to show my progress as I try to play through the challenges on my own

 There is a thread below of we call the unofficial competitional play. You could play there the challenges and we will judge. If not you can use the region for a CJ freely.

Lynn
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Sparrowsraven21 on September 09, 2009, 05:10:26 PM
There is a thread below of we call the unofficial competitional play. You could play there the challenges and we will judge. If not you can use the region for a CJ freely.

Lynn


Thank you Lynn, I wasn't sure about that thread. i thought i was too late for that as well
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on September 09, 2009, 08:09:00 PM

Thank you Lynn, I wasn't sure about that thread. i thought i was too late for that as well

Hi Sparrowsraven21, no it is not too late to participate in the unofficial thread, we will keep an eye on that thread anyways and we will also judge the same way as we do the officials. So, if you're interested, go for it.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Sparrowsraven21 on September 10, 2009, 04:56:59 PM
Thank you for the reply. I have already posted Challenge One and am off to work on challenge two
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on September 10, 2009, 10:24:18 PM
Sparrowsraven21, I went and left a note there, great going.


I have uploaded the comments, points and judgements for the Challenge 4, the pointage sheet update will follow tomorrow.
As I said before, the judgements for Challenges 4 to 6 have been done on paper already and some of them since quite awhile. I had to transfer all this to my computer first. Challenge 4 is done. This weekend I will transfer challenge 5 to the computer and hopefully by Monday I should upload the results for Challenge 5 , and so on.

For those who have stopped playing, now is the time to come back and continue. The population challenges is lowered from 125 K to only 60 K , but will be judged a little different for those that actually have reached the 125 K limit. Nevertheless, it will give those a chance that were discouraged by this terrible hard challenge. We will be waiting for those who are following us behind.

That means that we cannot publish Challenge 8 before a couple of weeks yet, something will interfere with those who did not finish a certain population in your region. I myself did not reach the 125K yet, but I surely will within a week or so.

Summer is and was a busy time for many of us and Lynn and I suspected that it would somehow slow down, we were prepared. I hope that most of you will come back for the fall, even if we continue with the challenges in a week or two.

Now is the time to judge my challenge 4 also. Look how I judged yours and do the same with mine.
1.  was judging the originality and logical demands to your adversary.
2.  was the fulfillments of the demands received by the seoaratists and the general building of your region.
3.  was the statue/monument for the separatists, originality and also location of the lot.

Good luck and congrats to those who have earned a lot of points, well earned with their effort and originality.

Fred and Lynn

Edit:

Btw, the Players that are already in the Archives and that have done challenge 4 will receive their judgements tomorrow night in their threads.

Also the  Bonus points  will be mentioned in every judgement from now on, but only added to the Total in the last challenge. The Bonus points for Challenge 1 to 3 will kept hidden until the very last........Hey , we need some suspense at least, right? ;)
Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on September 11, 2009, 06:17:25 PM
Fred I am sooo sorry I have dropped off the face of the earth here lately... I am trying to get back on my feet from surgery that took more out of me then expected... Something simple wasn't simple at all!! I will try my best to get Challenge # 7 done here soon as possible ~~ Patrick
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on September 11, 2009, 08:49:46 PM
Fred I am sooo sorry I have dropped off the face of the earth here lately... I am trying to get back on my feet from surgery that took more out of me then expected... Something simple wasn't simple at all!! I will try my best to get Challenge # 7 done here soon as possible ~~ Patrick

Hey!
Get better PAT, ya hear?


Take your time and make sure you get well fast. ;)

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on September 11, 2009, 10:24:44 PM
LoL Fred will do (http://www.smileyx.com/smilies/Y5lMfZ35.gif)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on September 12, 2009, 03:13:46 AM
yeah, get well soon !!
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on September 15, 2009, 09:43:45 AM
I will be away for three days to the finalization of a Loghome job in the NY state. I will be back on thursday. Just to let you know why I'm a little slow to upload challenge 5's judgements.
See you then.<<

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on September 18, 2009, 09:35:12 PM
Challenge 8 is posted now.
I will upload the Challenge 5 data from paper to our computer sometime this weekend and the latest either on Monday or Tuesday (sept 21 and 22) it will be in the threads.
Thanks for the patience.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: turtle on September 22, 2009, 09:02:26 AM
Hello friends,

I'm sorry, but I have to realise that I will not be able to participate on a regular basis. I will try to finish the challenges as they come, but i can not commit to deadlines any longer. I still haven't finished challenge 7, and I have a lot on my plate right now as I'm writing my master thesis. Bordertown is a great project and I have great respect for all the work Fred and Lynn, and everybody else have put into it. So, thanks for the fun :)

/Thomas
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: lynncanox on September 22, 2009, 01:55:53 PM
It is ok turtle, Fred has not done challenge 7 also, so you keep coming when you want, we understand.

Fred just left to Alberta for an emergency on one of his construction sites. I think someone got seriously hurt with a big log. He will call me later to tell me when he comes back. I will give you the news then.

Lynn
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: CabraBuitre on September 23, 2009, 08:51:24 PM
Uh oh, I hope everyone's ok!

I haven't even posted my challenge 6 yet, let alone my challenge 7.  I should be posting it very soon... I think all the pics are taken and I just have to put them together!

I keep tweaking things... I just have to get it posted!
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: lynncanox on September 24, 2009, 08:13:40 PM
Fred called, it was  before one hour and said that the man from the accident is ok. He will explain later when he comes back on saturday morning.
I have looked through Fred's papers, the challnge 5, and cannot figure out what is what. He told me to upload the results but I cannot understand all of his point giving. So we have to wait until he can do it himself.

Lynn
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on September 25, 2009, 02:22:53 AM
no problem, lynn, thank you for telling us :)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: jmyers2043 on September 25, 2009, 06:49:25 AM
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all of his point giving

Fred is giving out some points?! Whoo Hooo! Party Hardy!   :party:
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on September 26, 2009, 08:03:32 PM
Sorry that I had to disappear that quickly.
Here's the situation. I had to go to Alberta on a loghome construction site in an emergency. Although I am not responsable for the construction of the homes that I design and sell, I still hire the construction Company that will build it. In this case I was told that thi Company knew what they were doing by another Loghome architect, but I guess he and me, we were wrong.
A stupid accident happened when they raised the translengthlog (the big and longest log inusually in the middle of the building) and it slipped. Since this is a 40 foot, almost 1 ton log, it has to be taken care of very carefully. It needs specialist to do the job and I was told this fellow knew how.
Well, one fellow worker got squished in between the translengthlog and the first floor wall. Many ribs broken, partially a hipbone and some minor injuries to non-vital interior organs. Oh boy, what a scenery.
The worker seems to be a survivor, because his conditions gets better every day. I had to find another construction Company and take care of this "non-competant" one.
I hope that everything is fixed now and I won't have to go back until it is finished.

Tomorrow I will continue to transfer the points to the computer and maybe later upload it to the threads. If not, it will take another day or so. Sorry 'bout that.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on September 27, 2009, 03:20:39 AM
no problem .... lifes go first!
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on September 27, 2009, 12:09:09 PM
Don't worry about it Fred. You have more important things to worry about right now. That's a scary thought about the log, but I'm glad to hear the guy survived.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on September 27, 2009, 09:24:38 PM
Fred its OK don't worry about as it happens and work comes first and far most before us!!!
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on October 31, 2009, 04:13:42 AM
How about that. I actually posted on time for this one. Challenge 8 is on the books for me Fred. Happy Halloween.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: metarvo on October 31, 2009, 08:59:23 PM
I'm sorry to say that I'm going to be another day or two longer on this challenge, even with all of the extra time.  I've had a lot going on, between RL and other SC4 projects, but I still plan to get this in within two more days.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: CabraBuitre on November 01, 2009, 09:38:20 PM
I know, I know... I'm 3 (and a half?) challenges behind...  I'm basically done with 6 and 6a, just need to post them.  I've been tinkering for the last month or so... which hasn't accomplished much but it's eaten up a lot of time!

I'm going to have 6 and 6a up soon and I've been working on a portion of 7 for a month.  Then I should be relatively caught up!
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on November 02, 2009, 08:50:20 PM
No rush folks, I will have to give the last challenge another two weeks. Let's say November 15th, 2009.
I am having enormous real problems at the moment and I am not around very often (Missing you all), plus I have some computer problems also, will have to buy another one soon.
I am sorry for not having been around too often with you all, and I hope I will be able to make it up to you later this fall or winter. Even Lynn is stressed out with that fellow that died on my construction site from his injuries. My company has been charged with a 3.6 Million 1.6 Million $ law suit (is that how you call it?) **(Correction: being told by Lynn that the amount of the law suit was misstyped, I corrected it, sorry, I never read my own posts...;) )** because I haven't given the proper instructions for the building of the loghome. Although we are 99% certain to win the case in January, (the responsable is the hired construction Company) it is still stressful, not only for me, but also for my beloved wife, my 3 sons and the great folks that work with and for me.

I will be happy to return fully to SC4D and Simcity4 to handle the Challenges, continue my MD (Winding River Project) and to make some useful and nice BATs and LOTs with BarbyW and upload them to the LEX. But I will still be around here and there, surely to show that I am not about to abandon my friends and partners.

threestooges, that is great and I am actually glad for you, surely earned the Bonus point. Great work btw.

metarvo, you will still have two weeks to do so (lucky!)

CabraBuitre, well we are glad that you decided to continue the same, keep it up.

All the others that have posted and understand our situation, we thank you.
See ya soon

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on November 03, 2009, 02:11:03 AM
wow....this is really serious. Never mind pausing this whole complex or even ending this project, as it seems there are only a handfull of people left (as it seems to me).

I think it's hard to imagine how you really feel and how much stress this all is, but I hope you'll be able to succeed any challenge RL has for you.

Ich drücke euch die Daumen.

Ben
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on November 03, 2009, 10:48:15 AM

Ich drücke euch die Daumen.

Ben

Danke fuer's Daumdruecken.

The thing about stopping this project, even if there's only one left, is out of the question.(hope that's cleared) We started it and we're gonna finish it. Besides, I love it to much. It is just a matter of time and at the same time, those who have been kinda left behind, will have the time to catch up. A good example is CabraBuitre.

Don't worry about us, because like I said before, the case is in our favour. Only a bad and unexpected luck could change our situation only a little bit.

greetings to all

     Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on November 04, 2009, 01:54:40 AM
OK I didn't intend for this to happen but hey my life story as of late lol.... If its gonna happen to me it will, I am relieved to see the deadline is extend out till the 15 as Ive been down again grrr....
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on November 04, 2009, 02:21:45 AM
Fred,

I'm sorry to hear you have to go through all that. I hope it's resolved quickly and appropriately and that you can get back to things. Take the time you need. RL, and especially things like this, take priority. We'll be here either way. Until then, I hope all is well, or as well as it can be.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: jmyers2043 on November 04, 2009, 06:53:16 AM
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We'll be here either way

 :D  Yep, I'm not going anywhere. Gives me more time to make ships for my bordertown harbor  ;) 
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on November 04, 2009, 08:15:46 PM
Pat, take your time, even if you can't get it done for this deadline, the only thing you will not get is that 1 Bonus point. Don't worry, I haven't been on my challenge thread for months.

Thanks threestooges, I am sure it will work out fine, almost is already. What they ask is immensly exagerated and no chance of even going to court I think.

Hmmm Jim, making more new ships you are? Sounds good!


Btw, is there anyone here that would be able and helpful for me to extract 4 modelfiles from 2 datfiles? I have tried 3 times with a tut and never got to extracting anything than an empty file.


Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: BarbyW on November 05, 2009, 02:43:41 AM
Fred, let me know which files you want from which dat/s.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on November 05, 2009, 10:50:25 AM
Fred, let me know which files you want from which dat/s.

Thanks Barby, PM with file sent.



BTW   Everyone

There are two more or less easy challenges left before the last one. The last one will be more difficult. But I would like to ask you all first how you would like it.
Medium rare, well done or blue, meaning: difficult, not so difficult or more difficult.

Let us know.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on November 05, 2009, 12:26:18 PM
These next couple of weeks will be busy for me, but through December I think I'll have some free time and January will be the beginning of the new semester, so I guess to answer your question: still mooing (meaning as difficult as you want). But in all seriousness, I guess it depends on what the challenge itself will entail. I'm all for a bit of a challenge, but if you're going to ask us to pick a difficulty, it would be nice to know the game we're playing. Would giving us at least the title of the challenge give too much away?
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on November 05, 2009, 02:59:29 PM
mmmmmmmmmmmm steaks, I love a good medium well done steak lol
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: jmyers2043 on November 05, 2009, 07:07:54 PM
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But I would like to ask you all first how you would like it.


Right now there are usually three elements to each challenge. (1) snap a picture of this (2) build one or two of that (3) do something and tell a story.

If difficult means that there are 9 steps instead of 3, then I'd discourage that.

If difficult means I have to think, be creative, do something new and original, artistic, or be inventive, then I say make it difficult.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on November 05, 2009, 08:54:13 PM
Nice clarification on that Jim. I'm all for the increased difficulty when it comes to extra creativity. It helps to push the game, and the people playing it, and makes things more fun. I liked the disaster part of the last challenge for that reason.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on November 05, 2009, 10:11:59 PM
Well, maybe I should be more specific. First of all , the next two challenges will be no more difficult than the last one for sure, I would even say, they will be a "piece o'cake" compared to the last ones.
The last challenge, probably imposed only in February or sometime like this, will be the grand final (so to speak).
The challenge will be the ........well you probably can guess and if not, you will have to wait 'til then.
In this specific challenge, only 1 (one) subject will be asked for. Unlimited pictures (minimum of 4 I think) but with specific details and precision. Of course one of the most important points in this one will be the judging of your organization, logical and practical thinking and the management.
We can't offer this challenge in any other way than difficult, it won't be easy, but doable for everyone. We could make it harder though......lol......give you some real challenge for organizing your landscape, farms and towns around that project.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on November 08, 2009, 01:41:02 PM
if you're talking of steaks, I like them rare...For the challenges, the harder they are, the more interesting
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on November 17, 2009, 09:11:39 AM
Just to let you know, the next challenge will be uploaded on Sunday night,November 22nd, 2009.
See you then..............

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: TheTeaCat on November 17, 2009, 11:33:43 AM
Excellent to hear this piece of news. :thumbsup:

I was wondering also when will the points for the previous challenges be posted.
I do realise that you are very busy but it would be nice if the scores were brought up to date. ;)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on November 18, 2009, 08:39:26 PM
Excellent to hear this piece of news. :thumbsup:

I was wondering also when will the points for the previous challenges be posted.
I do realise that you are very busy but it would be nice if the scores were brought up to date. ;)

Points are on the way. It will be Lynn who will upload them, and that as soon as I have time to explain her how to. I don't have the time right now.
Hopefully it will be in a week to 10 days.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on November 18, 2009, 11:41:07 PM
  Challenge 9

is now available.....Have Fun and leave a comment. Also questions will be answered in the Challenge 9 thread.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on November 24, 2009, 02:03:32 AM
Just to let you know, I will be gone for 6 to 10 days, attending the court in Calgary. Lynn will be uploading the points this week or the weekend. I showed her how to do this.
See you soon.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: lynncanox on November 26, 2009, 10:03:21 PM
  "I showed her how to do this"  he say, but he forgot to show me what to load here. His paper is messy and I have tried to unmess it, but not with result. Sorry, it will have to wait until he comes back on Saturday.
If you have to say something  because it will again be late, say it him. LoL.

       Lynn
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on November 27, 2009, 12:10:22 AM
No problem, Lynn....we can wait some more days now :D....
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: lynncanox on November 27, 2009, 10:39:04 AM
Thank You, sorry about it. I can not find what is what on his papers.LoL.

           Lynn
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on January 17, 2010, 04:01:05 PM
Just to let you all know that I am not dead yet. ;)
After all I have been through irl last summer and fall, I decided to disappear right after Christmas for some *Metime* to my favourite Country, New Zealand, and spend relaxing moments away with my wife from all the stress and problems that were following me. I just got back last night.
Now that I am back home, other problems reappear....lol....Dohhhh! (smaller ones though)
The water pipe in one of my barns froze because of the two weeks of -20 C we had in Quebec/Canada and one of my apprentices decided to drop her studies in the architecture line and start something else, plus problems with my gaming computer, which one of my sons greatly abused while we were gone and some more minor things. In other words: What a mess! ;)

So, I will have to get all these things straightened out first, get used again to normal life at home and get myself back into Simcity play. I suppose this will take a couple of weeks.
Don't panic, nothing will change, everything will continue in a regular way. I am still on vacation until the end of March, besides the regular things to do at home and on the farm.

I have posted this in all my three threads: Nexis Works (Batforum) - GRV II - Winding River Project (MDforum). I will continue my BATs and my MD/CJ soon and GRV II will be fully back online also.
For those who haven't filled all the challenges in the GRV Challenge, now is the time, because I will start to calculate the points for the last challenges next weekend and once they're all done and uploaded, the last two challenges will be on their way.(I only hope that some of you are still with us)
Concerning my BATs, some of them will be released soon. And my MD will be fully back with regular updates also.

Sorry, it took so long, but before paying myself a fullsized heartattack because of all that stress and fatigue from last summer and fall, I decided to think of myself first for the last months.
Thanks for hanging in there and have a wonderfull year 2010. ;)

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: BarbyW on January 17, 2010, 04:44:36 PM
Good to see you around again, Fred. I hope you have managed to de-stress. I am still with you on GRVII and am nearly ready to post my update. I hope there are more than just me to post though. I don't want to win by default again ;D
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on January 17, 2010, 04:58:07 PM
no, barby...not that easy this time;)

I've done my parks, didn't have time for pics though.

Good to see you back Fred. yesterday I have made a presentation on climate change in NZ. What a funny coincidence.

cu then
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: jmyers2043 on January 17, 2010, 07:47:16 PM
Quote
I am still with you

Hey Fred

I'm still with you too. But truth is that I put GRV on the back burner until I had heard something from our fearless leader.

Am I correct in thinking that the deadline for the park challenge is this weekend?  Dead lines help me focus


Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on January 18, 2010, 08:30:25 AM
Hey, am I glad that some are still around with us. I can understand though that others have lost patience. No matter what, this will continue until the end.

jmyers, there<s not really a deadline for the Park challenge yet, you have at least 2 weeks to post it before I will bring this thread updated with all the points and judgements of the last challenges. I will let you all know at least a week before when I am ready for the next challenge to upload, which will also be the deadline to get the Bonus points for the Park challenge.

Btw, I have a lot of work to do to catch up my region with you....... %wrd

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: CabraBuitre on January 21, 2010, 10:35:52 PM
I'm still around too, even though I haven't finished Challenge 6.  I've done work on it but I kept changing things...

My wife and kids are going out of town next week, I should be able to catch up then!
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: tooheys on January 21, 2010, 11:22:16 PM
And I'm still in  :)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on January 22, 2010, 02:46:57 AM
Not going to get rid of me too easily either. Hope things are going well for you Fred. I haven't had the chance to update much in GRV lately, but I think I can manage to put something together in the next two weeks.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on January 22, 2010, 10:04:14 AM
Great!!

So I see we still have a few around, enough to continue the challenges with eagerness.....lol.
Don't worry, I haven't gotten around to do my proper updating neither, hopefully have one very soon.
I haven't even gotten SC4 installed yet (after my dearest son screwed up windows when I was on vacation...Like they, they say, little kids little problems and Big kids, big problems. ;)

Right now I am working on the pointage of the last 3 challenges....oufff, a lot of work to catch up. ;)

Good luck with your updates

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: metarvo on January 25, 2010, 03:22:36 PM
I'm sorry to report that I've had some computer trouble myself, and I can't run SC4 right now.  I lost a lot of plugins from the last several months, so I'll probably have to do some re-downloading to continue GRVII.  I'll see what I can do, though, once I get SC4 back up and running.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: BarbyW on January 25, 2010, 04:40:31 PM
 ::) :'( ::) $%Grinno$% ;D ;D
And I thought I could win by default again ;D
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on January 25, 2010, 09:59:25 PM
Hey metarvo, that would be great to see you back in action. I have gotten myself a new computer (the one my son screwed up he gets it as a present.....lol), the new one should arrive Thursday or Wednesday. I will immediatly get my files transferred and get back to SC4.

Sorry Barby, I think this time you just have to compete with others, including myself .... ;) lol

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: jmyers2043 on March 01, 2010, 06:43:17 AM
Was that an exciting game or what?! I generally don’t watch hockey on Sunday afternoon TV but there was just a ‘little bit of hype’ going into this game. It piqued by interest. I sprang from my easy chair when USA scored that goal during the last seconds of regulation play. But alas, the best team won the day. Congratulations, Fred. I’m very happy for you .. (and the rest of my northern neighbors  :thumbsup: )
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 01, 2010, 09:52:17 PM
Was that an exciting game or what?! I generally don’t watch hockey on Sunday afternoon TV but there was just a ‘little bit of hype’ going into this game. It piqued by interest. I sprang from my easy chair when USA scored that goal during the last seconds of regulation play. But alas, the best team won the day. Congratulations, Fred. I’m very happy for you .. (and the rest of my northern neighbors  :thumbsup: )

I don't usuually watch hockey in general anymore but you bet that was a hot game. I almost paid myself another heart attack when you guys scored just thirty seconds before the end, had to take a beer out of the fridge and have it poored down to cool me down....lol. The US have a darn good team, Canada too, and both of them gave us a game worthwhile watching. Thanks for the congrats, Jim ;) and say hello from us to everyone I don't know down there.....;) (looks like you've got yourself a fulltime job now)....lol

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 17, 2010, 07:55:19 PM
I don't want to go in details here, nor to excuse myself or ourselves and find some stupid explanations and reasons why these challenges have been prolonged, but I would just like to shortly explain why all this delay happened.
We, Lynn and I, unfortunetly didn't have easy times since almost a year now, including the health of my mother in law last fall, and the death of her this winter. Plus one of my cattle barns that burned down in december, the separation of my oldest son and the sueing of the family that lost their member in one of my construction sites last summer, which by the way is not yet finished. Things have been quite difficult one might say. These were surely the main reason for the delays on the internet behalf of us. There were others also, like not finding the courage at one time etc.....

The Challenge judgements need some time, between 10 and 16 hrs of concentration per challenge, in other words one full weekend. Not only to go through, discuss with Lynn, see the differences and the good and bad points, plus writing the words for each and calculating the points of everyone, then make the stats and get it onto the computer and upload them to the site. Way harder than we expected in the beginning and exceptionally difficult to do in between the real life problems we were living.

Anyways, it is still interesting and fun doing this. I like it.
Challenge 5 was done with the full presence of Lynn, I had to do the writing and calculating afterwards on my own though, since her mother suddenly died. I can understand and support her entirely when she told me then to take a break from GRV II or maybe even drop out completely. I respect it.

So since the beginning of february I am alone with my destiny....poor guy (lol..maybe some selfpitty will help....lol..kidding)....and trying to figure out how I would be able to make it through. But I am a hardhead, which sometimes is not always what we could call ideal, but in this case I found the strength and the method to continue and doing it with pleasure.
Challenge 5's judgement is being uploaded at this very moment (give me an hr or so to get everything prepared), and it will take a few hours also and hopefully I will end it before midnight, if not, I will surely continue tomorrow morning until it is all uploaded. All the members will have their judgement of Challenge 5 by noon tomorrow.

Challenge 6 and 6a and 7 have been worked on and still are under the process of transforming all onto the computer. Challenge 6 is completely judged, which I have done since 3 weeks. It should be ready and uploaded to the computer and retyped by the beginning of next week at the latest and so on. I hope to finish all the judgements by the beginning or middle of the next month. On April 15th or a few days earlier or later, Challenge 10a will be announced and uploaded.
After I will take a week or so to work on my own challenges that I have left behind.

you ended sometime ago. I will give you all the time you need to catch up on the rest. If I can do it, why not you?. Just inform me in the General thread (right here) that you have been continuing the challenges. I would love to see some or all of you back. I am sure that the RL situation of some of you has changed and you have either more free time or a little more desire to continue.

Challenge 10b will be the final challenge and also be the *Killer*,(lol, just kidding) the ultimate Challenge so to say, which will only be uploaded after I have seen that everyone wanting to finish the challenges will be able to do so before, including my own challenges.

If you lost interest because of us taking so long with this challenge, now is the time to show that you liked the challenges and show us what you can do. Thanks for understanding and thanks for your patience.

We had great hopes  :wings: for this concept of challenge to be simply fun and a great event on SC4D in the beginning and we hope we can finish it so, even after the difficult times we both had.  :thumbsup:

Lynn and Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Gaston on March 18, 2010, 03:23:47 PM
Ya'll take as much time as ya need.   I am still just watching and still fascinated by this whole process.   I personnally still have the Bordertown region loaded and are dabbling with it occationally still.    In fact it is the only region I am activelly working with still.   LOL


---Gaston   
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: CabraBuitre on March 18, 2010, 09:41:09 PM
I agree with Gaston, real life comes first and it's by far the most important.  Take all the time you need!

I've meddled with the 6th challenge to the point where I have build and torn down large areas of my city several times... and this particular spot is empty again and just needs me to find the time to finish it!  If it comes to the point where I am holding things up, then I probably will just have you continue without me (though I do intend to eventually finish!).  I'll see what I can do over this weekend about getting Challenge 6 ready!
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 19, 2010, 12:01:54 AM
Gaston and CabraBuitre, and everyone else....

I have actually worked out more or less most of RL problems at this time, I hope that the worst is gone. I also have more free time until the middle of May, so I will spend some of it with you all and get the GRV II going again, at least at a faster speed.
For those that stopped before or are behind and wish to continue, hey....go ahead, this is your chance. I also still have to do Challenge 7, 8, and 9 . (working on it)
This weekend I will upload the instructions on how to judge Challenge 6, this will be fun to see....lol.

Fred


Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: CabraBuitre on March 20, 2010, 04:50:34 PM
This weekend I will upload the instructions on how to judge Challenge 6, this will be fun to see....lol.


I hope to get Challenge 6 done tonight.  Guess I'd better do it soon!
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 20, 2010, 05:37:11 PM
Hi again.

it is time for you to judge the Challenge 6 of every player. It is open to every player on this site, every member that is. Please read how to and follow the instructions in the GRVII/ Challenges/ Challenge 6 thread.
Any questions on this subject can be asked there only. Thank You and now go have some fun......;)

http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=8060.20

Fred

I will be continuing judging Challenge #7 later this coming week. I also work on the updated pointage sheet.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 21, 2010, 11:49:12 AM
I have seen and read that some of you already have judged and voted. Good work , well done, I must say. Keep it up. It is interesting to see the difference of each individual.
....and Hey, don't forget to judge mine also... ;)

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: turtle on March 21, 2010, 12:46:59 PM
I have judged all the challenge 6 entries (excluding my own). I think it was difficult to keep everything in mind (especially so long after doing the challenge myself). I hope I was fair...

I have tried to reinstall my plugins so I can play my bordertown map again. So I will try to finish challenge 7-9 at some point. Hopefully before you judge the others, but I can't promise anything.

Thomas
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 21, 2010, 03:07:22 PM
I have judged all the challenge 6 entries (excluding my own). I think it was difficult to keep everything in mind (especially so long after doing the challenge myself). I hope I was fair...

I have tried to reinstall my plugins so I can play my bordertown map again. So I will try to finish challenge 7-9 at some point. Hopefully before you judge the others, but I can't promise anything.

Thomas

Good, glad to hear that you got your plugins back in game. Judging of Challenge 7 has been done and will be uploaded later this weekend, hopefully before next weekend. All I have to do is to get it onto the computer and then upload.
It doesn't matter, whether or whether not you're finished with Challenge7, I will judge it when you're ready. Just let me know . ;)

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 27, 2010, 08:28:12 PM
I have uploaded the updated pointagesheet just a few minutes ago. For Challenge 6, I will wait a few weeks and give the time for everyone to judge. Even if the points will only be calculated later, I will continue with the judging of Challenge 7.
Although that I thought I would be able to upload the results of Challenge 7 this weekend, some smaller things IRL have happened that I will not have the time to do so, but I will start uploading on Monday or Tuesday with the rest of the challenges.
Have a nice weekend. :)

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: CabraBuitre on March 28, 2010, 03:37:03 PM
Just to give you an update... I'm almost finished with Challenge 6 (just have to post my pics, which I should be able to do later today) and I'll get started on 7!  Sorry it's late, but things have been crazy for me in RL too!
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on March 28, 2010, 07:48:05 PM
Just to give you an update... I'm almost finished with Challenge 6 (just have to post my pics, which I should be able to do later today) and I'll get started on 7!  Sorry it's late, but things have been crazy for me in RL too!

Better late than never. I'll keep an eye on your thread and judge it. Thanks for remaining (or coming back) to the GRV II.
I myself haven't done Challenge 7 yet and I hardly started on the project. I would like to finish mine before I start uploading the judgements, but if I don't finish my challenge by Wednesday, I will upload the judgements the same, as many are waiting for it. ;)

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on April 25, 2010, 09:49:39 PM
I just uploaded my Challenge 7 a few minutes ago. Sorry again for being late. Now I will able to upload the Challenge 7 judgements in a couple of days.

I just started to do my Challenge 8 also and as soon as it is done, I will have the Challenge 8 judgements uploaded too.
See you then again.


In case that one of you is uploading their challenges, please let me know right here in this thread, that will help me to find out quicker when you do so. Good luck.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on May 01, 2010, 12:17:43 AM
Ok, I started uploading the results of the Challenge 7. It will continue within the next two days. It's just that I don't have the time to do all of it at once. So, if you haven't seen your judgements yet, please be patient ,maybe tomorrow or the day after you will. Thanks

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: jmyers2043 on May 01, 2010, 10:46:44 AM
I have new found appreciation for Fred after grading the various challenge 6 entries. Hope that I am not too late  :-[ 


Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on May 01, 2010, 07:52:37 PM
I have new found appreciation for Fred after grading the various challenge 6 entries. Hope that I am not too late  :-[ 




;) thanks......lol....now, let's not exagerate, ok?  ???
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on May 02, 2010, 10:28:32 PM
Challenge 7 judging is now finished, I will later this week ajust the pointage sheet also. The next thing for me to do is to do my own Challenge 8 first, before I jusged the others. That should be done by the next weekend.
You can now judge my Challenge 7 please.

Challenge 6A will be done a little later, also the points of your own judging the challenge 6 will be on the pointage sheet later on, to give time to those who would like to judge it.

Thanks for the patience, we'll be getting there..... ;)

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: zzsteven on May 18, 2010, 06:36:29 PM
Hi Fred,

I finally finished my building and decided to take a vacation after two and a half years.  Started getting bored and loaded up Bordertown again; I was having fun with it and learning a lot. Figured GRV II is long since over but maybe I could finish the challenges for myself and complete my city. Much to my surprise..... y'all aren't that far ahead of me. I'm going to continue on with the challenges (#7 is my next) if that is okay.

Keep in mind, I haven't played Simcity in almost a year so have to relearn a lot of it.

zz

 
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: jmyers2043 on May 18, 2010, 07:05:24 PM
Hey ZZ

I always enjoyed looking at your pictures and the creative ways you fulfilled the challenges. Welcome back.

Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: zzsteven on May 19, 2010, 04:52:21 PM
Thanks Jim.
Spent last night staring at my region with a baffled look on my face wondering why I did what I did.   ()what()

Today was looking at the d/l sites to see what is new since I was last here. Starting to plan out changes, massive renewal to come.  :)

zz
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on May 21, 2010, 08:21:55 PM
zzsteven, hey there again..... ;)
If you uploaded a mission, just let us know right here in this thread, so I won't miss it. Good luck and nice to have you back.

I myself am working on My challenge 8 at this moment, but we have beautiful weather since 2 weeks, couldn't find the time to finish it yet. Once it is done (rainy day....lol), I will judge challenge 8 of all the others.
Meantime folks, please judge my challenge 7, thanks.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: BarbyW on May 29, 2010, 01:33:51 PM
Is there ANY chance we could have the last challenges posted, please?
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: zzsteven on May 30, 2010, 01:37:15 PM
Hi Fred

I've post my Challenge 7.

Now onto Ch 8.

zz
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 01, 2010, 09:23:34 AM
Nice going zzsteven. I am on my challenge 8 also. As soon as I have done that challenge, I will judge all challenges 8's, then on to challenge 9. I should be finished with my challenge 8 this weekend.
Barby, I will upload challenge 10 and the final challenge only after having judged challenge 9.
Please folks,  judge my challenge 6 and 7 meantime, so I can finalize the pointage sheets, thanks.

Thanks

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: jmyers2043 on June 01, 2010, 04:33:36 PM
Good Luck with challenge 8, Fred.  I'm going to use my 'sharp' pencil when grading that one.  $%#Ninj2   :D 


Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 01, 2010, 07:17:49 PM
Good Luck with challenge 8, Fred.  I'm going to use my 'sharp' pencil when grading that one.  $%#Ninj2   :D 

Oh boy.......better find (or create) some good looking BATS (lots) now.... ;)
I'll do my best.
BTW, I like to play the challenges first, then judge them accordingly, makes me kinda aware of what I judge....that's why I want to finish judging before I go one.

I am working on my Export challenge tonight again.


Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 05, 2010, 04:54:23 PM
Ok, I got my Challenge 8 uploaded, sorry for taking so long, but somehow I was short of ideas in this challenge. I also had to create some custom lots.
I will now judge all other Challenge 8 uploads, which should be done by next weekend. Once I uploaded the *How to judge Challenge 8*,  please do judge my challenge 8.
In this challenge the 2 regional pictures will not be judged and no points are given for them, but the pictures will be used for writing the next challenge. I had to see where what, why and how is first, before writing Challenge 10, which will be completely different again and also be individual and original for each player.
I will of course only write the challenge 10 for those who have finished Challenge 9.

Thanks

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on June 06, 2010, 02:28:24 AM
yeeeha;)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on June 08, 2010, 06:26:34 PM
Ooh... an individual challenge 10? Looking forward to it. In the meantime though, I'm still in it. Just haven't had the time to dedicate to wrapping up the challenge. It should be wrapped up here shortly I hope. I'll have a look through yours soon too.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: Pat on June 08, 2010, 09:22:45 PM
I wish I could still play buttttttttttttttttttttttt due to technical problems and other problems siigh........
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 09, 2010, 09:41:03 AM
No problem threestooges, we'll be here. ;)
Pat, maybe you'll fix your techno problems one day and hopefully you'll be able to play. Wish ya luck with your other problems too. ;)

I will be uploading the Challenge 8 judging this coming weekend, probably not before sunday though, there were some tough ones to judge, tough by means of excellent. :)

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 13, 2010, 08:06:33 PM
Working on the Challenge 8 judgements.....sorry to be late, had all my family over this weekend, those City-Slickers wanted a weekend out in the country (oh my). Lynn loved it, I....well....I'm kinda glad they're gone now.... ;)

I will uplaod the results either tomorrow or tuesday. Btw, I need more judging on my challenge 7 please....thanks

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 22, 2010, 07:05:23 AM
Since I have some difficulties with two of my construction sites irl, I have been away from SC since almost two weeks. The problems should be cleared before the next weekend, when I will be back with the judgements, the pointage sheet and my challenge 9 update.
Sorry for being late again, but sooo many things happen at the same time which I cannot control and since simcity is of the last priority, it has been put aside so many times. I am really sorry and hope I can make it up someday.
See you next weekend.

Fred ;)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on June 22, 2010, 09:18:58 AM
No problem, Fred.
I just hope Challenge 10 won't take place on the last week of July + first 2 weeks of august, as I had to come to your house, playing the challenge. I'm in Canada at that specific time. (Field trip to the region of Quebec/Montreal for my masters studies. We will also maybe visit some logging sites...) :D
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on June 22, 2010, 09:43:32 PM
No problem, Fred.
I just hope Challenge 10 won't take place on the last week of July + first 2 weeks of august, as I had to come to your house, playing the challenge. I'm in Canada at that specific time. (Field trip to the region of Quebec/Montreal for my masters studies. We will also maybe visit some logging sites...) :D

No problem, I have enough computers for all.....lol....Visiting Logging sites? What for?
Btw, I am 3 hours from Montreal and Quebec City, close to Maine and New Hampshire, shame though that I won't be around, because I will be in Calgary at that time. We could have met.

Challenge 10 should be out by the second week of July at the latest, hopefully in the first week if I can get those real life difficulties fixed. I have already worked on the challenge a few weeks ago and written most of it and all I want to do is finish the judging of challenge 9, just to be update.



Challenge 10 will be a difficult one and it is based on the last region pics that you all uploaded in Challenge 9. It will actually be kind of individual, meaning..... a little different for each one of you......
Challenge 10 will be followed by the smaller and easier *Final Challenge*....Number 11....somewhat of a surprise.

I'll be gone for a couple of days now, be nice.....

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on June 23, 2010, 12:03:36 AM
As you might remember, I'm studying Geography and we'll get there to look at hydrology, forestry and mining with focus on sustainability, climate change and so on. I think you're too far south for visiting though (Sherbrooke might be canceled!) ;), neither I'd had the time  :(, cause we're doing this trip in 17 Days focusing on the North and visiting Ouranos, INRS and some projects. (The road we wanted to take from Radisson to Chibougami is closed for our vehicles, we were informed, so we have to make a somewhat longer detour.)

(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/1196/neuebitmapnm.jpg)

So I'll sureley be late with Challenge 10, then... :'(
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on June 30, 2010, 08:59:08 PM
Well, my Challenge 9 is up now Fred. Curious to see what you have in store coming up here. Also curious to see what your parks end up looking like.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on July 07, 2010, 07:05:46 AM
Well, my Challenge 9 is up now Fred. Curious to see what you have in store coming up here. Also curious to see what your parks end up looking like.
-Matt

Good job! ;)

---------------------------------------------------------


Sorry for being away for so long without leaving a message, but we went on a vacation for three weeks after a few months of hard work and stress. It was a sudden decision and quicly executed (within 2 hrs only). I didn' t go on line very often during that time.
Now that I am back , I am still very busy though, but I will take the time to continue the Challenges. My MD (mayor diary) will be put on hold to give me more freedom to continue and finish the GRV II.
Before I upload the ninth judgements. I will ask You, those who have finished the Challenge 9, to open the 10th Challenge thread because I will post your individual challenge there. Like I said before, each Challenge 10 will be totally individual, all depending on your regional work during the last Challenges. I will be planning your challenge by what I know of your region and I will build a challenge for each of you starting with the two last regional pictures that you have posted in Challenge 9.
This will be quite different and hopefully Fun too.

Please open Your Challenge 10 Thread right now , if you haven't already, so that I can post Your Personal Challenge 10 later this week or weekend.
Good Luck.


Btw, Lynn will be back, helping me with Challenge 10 and the final 11 judging.

Fred ;)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on July 07, 2010, 10:16:28 AM
 &apls for beeing back and good to hear you 2 are well and alive, Lynn and Fred.

I'll open my Challenge-10-Thread right now, but I won't be able to play it before August 12th, as real life challenges me right now, too.
First, the recent semester is ending and tests and papers have to be written, and 5 days after, I'll be on my trip to Canada.

So don't hurry, giving me my advices;)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: metarvo on July 07, 2010, 12:19:42 PM
I apologize for not having my Challenge 9 posted yet, Fred.  A few months back, I had a HDD crash and lost many SC4 plugins.  Thankfully, I had the Bordertown region backed up, along with most of the plugins, but I've had to work hard to re-acquire the ones that I lost so that I can get rid of the brown boxes and the like that have appeared in my region.  I plan to post Challenge 9 and judge the other challenges if it's not too late.  I'll go ahead and open a Challenge 10 thread, but I'm sorry to say that Challenge 9 isn't ready yet.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on July 07, 2010, 09:44:47 PM
&apls for beeing back and good to hear you 2 are well and alive, Lynn and Fred.

I'll open my Challenge-10-Thread right now, but I won't be able to play it before August 12th, as real life challenges me right now, too.
First, the recent semester is ending and tests and papers have to be written, and 5 days after, I'll be on my trip to Canada.

So don't hurry, giving me my advices;)

Well, you will have your challenge 10 by next week, one way or the other, but take your time, this time there's no time limit.....so to speak. Have a nice trip to Canada, now my homeland, "obwohl mein Herz immer noch Deutsch ist, auch wenn wir die Semifinale in Sued-Africa verloren haben"...;)

I apologize for not having my Challenge 9 posted yet, Fred.  A few months back, I had a HDD crash and lost many SC4 plugins.  Thankfully, I had the Bordertown region backed up, along with most of the plugins, but I've had to work hard to re-acquire the ones that I lost so that I can get rid of the brown boxes and the like that have appeared in my region.  I plan to post Challenge 9 and judge the other challenges if it's not too late.  I'll go ahead and open a Challenge 10 thread, but I'm sorry to say that Challenge 9 isn't ready yet.

Now that is a problem.....lol.....Well, I need Challenge 9 absolutely, to offer you Challenge 10. Without it, I can't give you the details. Once you have done challenge 9, let me know, either in the General Discussion Thread or by PM, ok?

I will post the Challenge 10 this weekend, but only the General information, and it will be found in the Challenge 10 Thread. Then afterwards I will give you each the individual details in your Challenge 10 thread. Only then you may start.

Like I said earlier, I will be gone for two days, but be back on friday evening.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on July 16, 2010, 09:30:28 PM
The First *Individual* Challenge 10 was posted. The lucky (I hope so??) person is BarbyW. You can see her challenge in her Challenge 10 thread. Good luck Barby.

This will also be a good preview of how YOUR challenge will be....lol ;)

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on July 18, 2010, 09:37:05 PM
The second Challenge 10 was posted in jmyers2043's Challenge10 thread. Good luck.

More to come tomorrow..... ;)

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on July 18, 2010, 11:35:12 PM
wow...as far as I see, my challenge 10 will be hard work....there'S almost no space for a network like the ones that are shown until now.

good to have "unlimited" time ;)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on July 23, 2010, 09:49:49 PM
Hope all is well Fred. Just checking in on the status of the pending Challenge 10 posts. The current ones look fun. Just waiting to see mine.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: jmyers2043 on July 30, 2010, 07:45:10 PM
Hey Fred

I had a good belly chuckle when I read this sentence at the end of the challenge in my thread.

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We also will be anxious to see your project advancing as you hopefully will show us with pictures as you slowly wind through the region.

I can imagine. :D  You are, afterall, the king of highway building in your Mayor's Diary.   :thumbsup: 

I'll be traveling next week to Ireland and Scotland. My recent focus has been getting my work done here so I can go there. But Fear Not! I've put some thoughts on paper and sketched out some ideas for the 'project advancing' posts. I'll take up challenge 10 as soon as I get back.

- Jim
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: editfish on September 03, 2010, 01:46:48 PM
I've found this challenge to be fun to watch and regret not finding out about it early enough to join in.  Any teasers or info about the next competition GRV III (if there is to still gonna be one) after all 12 challenges are completed?
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on September 09, 2010, 03:39:13 PM
OK, I'm back.
Lynn was to leave a message in August where I was gone, but she totally forgot about it. So, please forgive her.

We were in NZ for a week's vacation in late July and on the way back (before the earthquake) we got our baggage stolen on the last day in the hotel. So....lol....that wasn't funny at all, because passports and all our tickets, credit cards, papers were in the luggage, while we were out having breakfast. Ha, I also know now that NZ isn't better for criminality than any other modern Nation. lol...
So, I also found out that the Canadian Embassy there isn't worth a penny and forget the canadian Government when it comes to helping its citizens out of their country. Oh my, that was frustating and long to clear out. Another week in NZ with no clothes, no money, no credit card and no papers....lol. I hope that we never experience that again. Thanks for international banktransfers that can handle a case like this within hours and thanks for the Wellington Police that helped us so much, unfortunetly without success.
Anyways, I hope that they didn't suffer much with the earthquake they had last week.

Once back in Canada, after only a few days, I was admitted to the hospital.....so,I guess you know now why I havn't been around for so long now. I just got out on last Friday, not feeling so well yet and that is why I only post today, where health seems to go uphill a little. Heart surgery (3 bypasses) isn't that easy at all and that worried Lynn a lot also I guess, and probably that is the reason why she didn't leave a message, even when I asked in august.
I missed you guys a lot, and now I will have all the time to catch up on everything. I was told to do nothing for a couple of months at least (until Christmas). Woohoo, some long vacation....lol. The moral is perfect, the body ...well, so n' so and the rest is going uphill. I even received my passport (brand new one) yesterday....lol. I hate Governments. ;)

So, now that I am back, I will try to catch up on my things slowly. I will continue my MD, continue to post the challenges in my GRVII and maybe even start BATting again. I only hope that I didn't loose to many folks.

Glad to be back. Yesss Sir. ;)

Fred



I can imagine. :D  You are, afterall, the king of highway building in your Mayor's Diary.
- Jim
Where did you get that idea? lol, I have my own problems with highways, far from being a king of highways.....;)

I've found this challenge to be fun to watch and regret not finding out about it early enough to join in.  Any teasers or info about the next competition GRV III

Well, we're gonna vote for having a GRV III later this winter, but it will be different, mostly there will be a *strict timer* attached to the challenges, so it won't be running for a year like this one.

I will post some highway challenges later this week, most likely on the weekend.


Fred

Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: editfish on September 09, 2010, 06:54:45 PM
Fred

Sounds like a rough patch.  Glad you're back with us safe and sound. 

editfish
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on September 09, 2010, 10:41:57 PM
Good to hear from you Fred, though I'm sorry to hear about your trip. Hope all is well now that you're back, and when you're ready for it I'll be looking forward to seeing what you've come up with for the rest of the Challenge 10's.
-Matt
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on September 10, 2010, 08:49:46 AM
Wow, this is some bad news....I've been worried about you for some weeks now, seeing you not posting a single word....have thought of something like this.....well, good to hear from you....take time for your recovery...and tell Lynn, that everything is fine and there's no problem with not posting ;) .....we understand...somethings have priorities  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on September 11, 2010, 12:30:54 PM
Thanks folks. I'm glad to be back and now that I have all the time I need, I will be here more often.
I am working on theree different Challenges 10 for you this weekend, studying the regions and find a decent, but also challenging route for the highway regional crossing. This should be ready by sunday evening or monday morning. So expect to see 3 uploads by latest on monday.
Today I will be busy, since all my family (3 sons and family) come over for the weekend for the first time since "that" day. I guess I won't be on the internet for the weekend.

See you then

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: metarvo on September 11, 2010, 06:53:26 PM
It sounds to me like it might take another vacation to recover from a vacation like that one.  I'm sorry about the way that one went.  &mmm  I'm glad you're back, though.  ;)  I completed my Challenge 9 a while back, so I'll be glad to see GRV II continue.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on September 26, 2010, 02:18:08 PM
Metarvo and Threestooges have their challenge 10 now, sorry for being late.
I will upload the others tomorrow, working on them tonight.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: threestooges on September 27, 2010, 07:04:08 PM
Looked it over. Just waiting on the green light to begin construction.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on September 27, 2010, 08:19:19 PM
Everyone has its challenge 10 now and I will need someone to plan my own challenge 10 once I have finished my challenge 9 which should be done by next sunday. Anyone offering him/herself? I prefer to have someone do it that is NOT implicated with the challenges. Anyone? (maybe a former Player of GRV II or someone that knows what's going on here)


Looked it over. Just waiting on the green light to begin construction.

You can start whenever you wish, the green light is *on*. ;)

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: jmyers2043 on September 27, 2010, 08:20:26 PM
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Looked it over. Just waiting on the green light to begin construction.

Matt - I see that SoulChaser received his construction assignment. I think that's the last one. Fred can correct me if I'm wrong - but I think it's green light time and time to roll up my sleeves.

- Jim


<edit>  :D   As I type, Fred posts.
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on September 27, 2010, 08:26:46 PM
Matt - I see that SoulChaser received his construction assignment. I think that's the last one. Fred can correct me if I'm wrong - but I think it's green light time and time to roll up my sleeves.

- Jim


<edit>  :D   As I type, Fred posts.

You're right Jim, let's go for it.....lol, take your time and think it over. We will ask for the pictures once the highway is done, so please let us know when it is finished.

Btw, be sure to show us some picture during the construction, show us whatever you have finished while going through the region. Of course you're not obliged to do this, nor does it give you any points nor Bonuses, but I'm sure many of us would like to see the progress and also an idea what picture to ask you later. Good luck everyone.

Fred


EDIT:  For anyone who is behind with his/her challenges but wants to catch up, no problem. Once Challenge 9 is finished and I have the map, let me know here in this thread, and I will deliver you the Challenge 10. No rush.... ;)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on October 06, 2010, 07:55:35 PM
I'll be gone "beaching" somewhere in the Caribbien islands for the next 8 days, starting Thursday night, October 7th, getting some sun on my new scars.....lol


Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: soulchaser on October 07, 2010, 07:33:04 AM
you surely deserve it...have fun :)
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on October 07, 2010, 08:39:53 AM
lol....Not sure if I deserve it, but it surely will feeeeel gooood...lol. I think Lynn deserves it more.
Anyways, the trip is her idea, because when I started wandering around the house (inside and out) and not knowing what to do with my "corps", she thought it would be a good idea to do some "touristing" in the islands" which will keep my mind and body busy for awhile. I simply find the time kinda loooong while waiting for my wounds to heal. I'm not allowed to do this or that and physically I am limited too, especially when I bend down or try to lift things, even small ones like my cat.
The scars on my breast are healing well but are still kind of sensitive when it comes o using the muscles within. The heart is perfect, haven't felt that good since years.
So, I guess it is a matter of patience now and pass some good time with my Lynn and myself.......and hey....of course, all of you included. ;)
Don't do anything I wouldn't do while I'm gone. See ya next week.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: zzsteven on October 09, 2010, 06:10:27 PM
Hi Fred and Lynn,

Hope y'all are enjoying your vacation.

Just letting you know Challenge 8 is posted. It's been ready for months but I got sidetracked and forgot about it. Sorry.

Been working on Challenge 9 the last two weeks and its almost ready to post.

zz
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: zzsteven on October 10, 2010, 10:43:46 AM
And Challenge 9 is now posted.

zz
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on October 25, 2010, 12:21:45 AM
And Challenge 9 is now posted.

zz

I still have to upload my latest challenges, but as soon as I do it, I will be judging your last challenges. Looks good.

BTW, I am working on your challenge 10 early this week.

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: CabraBuitre on April 03, 2011, 01:35:30 PM
I just posted my Challenge 6 entry.  It just got lost in the mail.  Yeah, that's it!

It is now open for voting and I am working on 6a now.  At the rate I work, it should be ready by 2015....   :-\


In all reality, I have a region that's big enough, I just need to add some more farms to get up to 20% and snap some pictures!
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: zzsteven on August 30, 2011, 04:51:23 PM
Well Fred, here we are almost 2 1\2 years later. 10 challenges posted and no end in sight. :)  Bet you didn't think this would still be going on back then, I certainly didn't.

It has been a great adventure for me learning to lot edit, hunting for the "right" download to fit the mood/requirements, and applying ideas read in various MD's. The comments made by you and Lynn were very helpful in understanding how put things together in way that looked good. In fact I go back occasionally and reread them to refresh my memory.

I was thinking it might be time to finish with challenge 10, get 11 (and 12? ) posted and wrap this up.

Thank you for a fun and thought provoking game.

zz
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on September 08, 2011, 01:29:10 PM
Well, I know, it has been "longing" a long time and I would like to finish it this early winter (November/december) once and for all. I will then send a PM to all those who would like to add something to their regions and then decide for a winner and close the subject.

What didn't help was that it was a little too long. I should have thought so. Then with Lynn loosing her mother and leaving me wasn't easy neither, then my heart attack didn't help and so on.
But I am hard headed and surely will finish this challenge before Jan 1st 2012. So be prepared  in November.

If I will ever do another challenge like this, which btw I have already figured out, it will be one challenge at a time and a winner pronounced for every turn. That way, if you got tired of participating after a few shots, others will still enjoy the ones coming up.

But we'll see about that next year (after New years 2012)
I will get in touch with the players by the end of october 2011.

;)

Fred
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: zzsteven on September 10, 2011, 06:31:14 PM
Thanks Fred.

Nov/Dec sounds great.

 Having had health issues of my own this past year, I can certainly understand how "real life" can derail a plan. Thanks to the pace of the GRV, I was able to come back and still not be very far behind. So please don't misunderstand, this was not a complaint. Just trying to bring a bit of life back to Bordertown.


You're already thinking about another Challenge? Cool!!!!!  :)

zz
Title: Re: General GRV II Discussion
Post by: mrbisonm on September 12, 2011, 08:09:10 PM
Thanks Fred.

Nov/Dec sounds great.
 So please don't misunderstand, this was not a complaint.

You're already thinking about another Challenge? Cool!!!!!  :)
zz


Don't worry, I didn't take that as a complaint at all, more like an buzzer that woke me up..... ;)

Well, after having seen what happened to GRVI and then GRV II, I realised that most get tired of the challenges after a certain time or don't find the time to follow it whole, therefor the idea to make totally independant one-time challenges would be more fun and for everyone welcome.
We'll see about that later this winter. I will have to talk to few of members here first.


mrb