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Title: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: mrbisonm on June 07, 2009, 09:28:46 PM
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*The Vacation...*



Challenge No 6


"Ladies and Gentlemen," the Governor announces in a special public meeting on the Capitol Plaza, where separatists, mayors and the citizens are gathered," We have finally convinced our neighbors to reconsider their futur with us. After long democratic meetings and a lot of pacific discussions, we came to a mutual agreement and that agreement is about to be signed by both sides of Grand River Valley right here in Capitol City. The rebel's side of our region is back under our mayor's jurisdiction, but under one condition. We will have to take care of them to their every needs and keep the borderline intact, controlling both entry and exit from both sides. I myself will see to it that they get everything they need, it will be my orders from now on again that you will have to follow. No more separatists, no more leaders of rebels who will tell us what to do and no more anxiety to see our region getting run by an adversary leader. We now have one region divided into two, but governed by one governor and many mayors. Let's get to work and do our best to get both parts of our region back into unitity and a better economical situation. Let's build a city now!", and the papers were signed by the two parties. The Big Party is on!!
Hereby the Governor put back on his hat and left the stage, leaving the crowd in wild screams of happiness and satisfaction, ready for the allnight festivities.

next morning.......

You have all done a marvelous job in intimidating our adversary to a point that they saw what we would be able to do....if....The intimidations worked and the Governor is satisfied with your work.
Now, Mayors, we have other work to do, but before all that coming work, we, the Governor, his wife and all the mayors, will take a small vacation somewhere on the beach.... Oh, you don't have a beach, you say? Well, create one.

We want to see a beach, but not every kind of a simple public beach, ohhhhh no, we want something very special. It's gotta be better than good. We want a great beach, yes, GREAT. It has to be cut out of a dream, it has to stun the governor and his wife and it has to make them want to go there and spend some days, it has to be.....well u know....one of those, exactly that one you're thinking off right now! Do it so!

After the beach the Governor and his wife want to rest in a hotel, but then again, not that average hotel that you see here and there on most of the streetcorners, ohhhhh no, they want that kind of a hotel to spend their nights in and feel like they're in paradise on cloud 7 (or was it 9?), yap....you heard right, PARADISE!. It has to be so luxurious and good looking that they want to live there forever. It has to be.....yes....exactly one of those which you're thinking of right now. Do it so. You got the idea.

Then when they get hungry they want to go to a restaurant, but hey, not McDo nor Kentucky nor any regular family restaurant, ohhhhh no, it has to be one of those special and luxurious ones, you know, that kind that you want to go there for every meal in your life, if you had the financial ability to do so. The Governor and his wife want to be stunt. Make it good looking and hire the best chefs in the region. Yeah, You're right, exactly that one you have in mind at this moment. Do it so

Governor Freddy Bison and his wife Lynn is inviting ALL the Mayors of the Grand River Valley II to join them for the beach, the hotel and the meals. All expenses are on us!!

Now, here is how this will function. You will build all these three places anywhere in your re-united region to the best that you can, not only to impress the Governor and his wife, but also all the other mayors, because everyone of them will give you the points and will judge you. How about that? Now we have more than just two judges and hey, it won't be like you have judged or not judged by mrbisonm, ohhhhh noooooo, to gain your points you will HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE than to judge ALL THE OTHERS too. You don't judge all the others and you will get NO points for your own update. (just to make sure that you judge everyone else)

Yess, this time you have to judge and will be judged by all the mayors and not by the Governor's couple. We, (the Governor and his wife) are on vacation, remember?.... ;) This is a big change this time and you will be fairly judged by many now, so make it good, no....come to think of it....make it even better than good, very good....no forget it.... excellent, or make it....yeahhh........heavenly perfect! That's the word I was looking for....
We all want to enjoy a beach like this, sleep and live in a hotel like this and eat our meals in a restaurant like this and remeber these moments for the rest of our simly lifes.

Choose well your BATs and Lots, build them in the best location and environment and make it just wonderfully, no heavenly perfect. We will need several pictures of this, mentioned in details below. Each category will get points from 0 to 5, plus one more category for the cleaniness and organization of your whole post. All three, hotel, resto and beach have to be closeby and within 3 tiles of each other in any direction at the most distant, better yet, if you have the possibilty to make them in two tiles or less, do it so. We all hate traveling far from one point to another.
3 (Three) Bonus points will be given to the (1) winner of this challenge, which will be voted for by all the mayors and us, the Governor and his wife. (this vote will be done by pm'ing at the end.) It will be the 6 Star vacation spot of this simyear and we will all stay there for our vacation. The (1) winner will get a special demand to do by the Governor sometimes and unexpected during one of the next challenges.

To show this time in your 6th Update:

1.  1 Picture of any official bordercrossing between north and south rebuilt since the re-union of the region. (show us your best)

2.  3 pictures of the beach, 1 in view 2 to see the overview and location, and the two others in any view you wish.

3.  3 Pictures of the Hotel/Motel, 1 in view 2 to see again the overview and the two remaining in any view you wish.

4.   3 Pictures of the Restaurant/Auberge, 1 in view 2 again to see where it is and the two others as you wish in any view.

5.  And finally we want to see a regionview of the whole region in regular satelite view, please no modified pictures and after you've finished every demand above. Use either the gameregionview or the Region Census view for this. Also please respect the number of pictures demanded, not less nor more than asked for. 11 pictures in all.

Again you are now allowed to play in your whole region and get the population growing, and that anywhere in your region, both north and south. You are the Master of GRV again.
You are NOT allowed to change any federal routes or make heavy and/or severe changes to what the adversary told you to build. Remember, we have a copy of your region. You may though make minor changes here and there on the former separatist's side.
Please mention in what tile you have placed these three structures (Beach, Hotel, Resto)

When you're finished with your challenge you will wait for us (The Governor and his wife) to post the Instructions to judge everyone's challenge 6, and that after everyone has finished theirs.

The deadline for doing this challenge 6 (without the judging) will be Midnight on June 24th, 2009 NY time [/b]. Again 1 Bonus point will be given to those who will post in time and 1 penalty point for those who post after the deadline. Got that? :0 If you have problems with this timing ,let me know.

We are wishing you all luck with this challenge and hope you will enjoy your vacation as much as we will. Questions will be answered below.

Lynn and Fred



Ps.: We will start judging Challenge 4 and 5 this week since Lynn's mother is back home and feeling better. Sorry for the delay.

Fred


Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: soulchaser on June 08, 2009, 12:33:51 AM
As for the hotel. I already have one, that fits prefectly, but haven't shown yet (just in region view). Is it ok to recycle this?

It's hard to find a better place ;)
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: mrbisonm on June 08, 2009, 06:20:18 AM
Quote from: soulchaser on June 08, 2009, 12:33:51 AM
As for the hotel. I already have one, that fits prefectly, but haven't shown yet (just in region view). Is it ok to recycle this?

It's hard to find a better place ;)

If you already have one of the mentioned above, you can use it, even if you already have showed it and if you think it is good enough for the demand, but be careful and remember that it has to be only of high standards and it will be severly judged by every participating GRV-II Player, including the Non-official-Players. (No outsiders though). ;)

Fred
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: soulchaser on June 09, 2009, 01:49:33 AM
One more question:

When you say beach, do you mean a sandy one or is it ok, when we keep on our gravel ones...because with my terrrain mods, sandy beaches look terrible, especially in region view!
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: mrbisonm on June 09, 2009, 10:18:30 AM
Quote from: soulchaser on June 09, 2009, 01:49:33 AM
One more question:

When you say beach, do you mean a sandy one or is it ok, when we keep on our gravel ones...because with my terrrain mods, sandy beaches look terrible, especially in region view!

Beach = the terrain partially on land and water of a lake or sea.
No matter what you have as a beach, sand, rocks, gravel, pebbles, grass, lava etc , will be accepted and no matter what terrain mod or lot that you use, just make it look ......*heavenly beautiful* as demanded in the challenge by the Guv'nor.

Fred
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: threestooges on June 11, 2009, 12:03:41 AM
I know you said no major terraforming, but would some be ok to allow placement/creation of breakwaters or jettys?
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: mrbisonm on June 11, 2009, 06:58:43 AM
Quote from: threestooges on June 11, 2009, 12:03:41 AM
I know you said no major terraforming, but would some be ok to allow placement/creation of breakwaters or jettys?

I don't see any problems with this. Yes, it is allowed.

Fred
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: BarbyW on June 11, 2009, 07:17:50 AM
You have asked for an image in view 2 of the beach, restaurant and hotel. What happens if all three are in one tile and close to each other? All three will be shown in a view 2 image.
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: mrbisonm on June 11, 2009, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: BarbyW on June 11, 2009, 07:17:50 AM
You have asked for an image in view 2 of the beach, restaurant and hotel. What happens if all three are in one tile and close to each other? All three will be shown in a view 2 image.

In the case where all three places are close together to be seen in one screenshot, then post only one picture and mention that all three are on it, but continue to show us the rest of the images demanded for each.

Fred
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: BarbyW on June 11, 2009, 01:32:25 PM
Thank you, Fred.
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: Jmouse on June 14, 2009, 01:42:16 AM
Fred, there may be a bit of confusion about the instructions in Challenge 6.

QuoteAll three, hotel, resto and beach have to be closeby and within 3 tiles of each other in any direction at the most distant, better yet, if you have the possibilty to make them in two tiles or less, do it so. We all hate traveling far from one point to another.

Does this mean three tiles as in 1x1 lots, or three city tiles as in Tile A, D and G, for example? I understood it one way, and someone else has interpreted it the other way.

Thanks in advance!

Joan
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: mrbisonm on June 14, 2009, 08:38:54 AM
Quote from: Jmouse on June 14, 2009, 01:42:16 AM
Fred, there may be a bit of confusion about the instructions in Challenge 6.

Does this mean three tiles as in 1x1 lots, or three city tiles as in Tile A, D and G, for example? I understood it one way, and someone else has interpreted it the other way.

Thanks in advance!

Joan


Sorry, I should have mentioned the word *city* before the word *tile*. I myself call the 1x1 lots grids and not tiles.
I was talking about citytiles , all three challenges have to be within 3 medium citytiles. ex: A, E and C.

Fred
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: Jmouse on June 14, 2009, 02:33:44 PM
Thank you, Fred. I'll pass this information along.

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: Pat on June 17, 2009, 12:09:29 AM
OK I am rip and roaring to go here wooohoo!!! OK so I need to have a Resort City per say if I am understanding this? 
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: BarbyW on June 17, 2009, 12:17:21 AM
No, Pat, you don't need to have a Resort City but the three places - beach, hotel and restaurant - need to be within 3 city tiles of each other if there are not in the same city tile.
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: Diggis on June 17, 2009, 06:31:30 AM
Sorry fred, can I just clarify one point?

Quote from: mrbisonm on June 07, 2009, 09:28:46 PM

Then when they get hungry they want to go to a restaurant, but hey, not McDo nor Kentucky nor any regular family restaurant, ohhhhh no, it has to be one of those special and luxurious ones, you know, that kind that you want to go there for every meal in your life, if you had the financial ability to do so. The Governor and his wife want to be stunt. Make it good looking and hire the best chefs in the region. Yeah, You're right, exactly that one you have in mind at this moment. Do it so


Are you saying you want to be a midgetLittle person, or the restaurant run by midgetslittle people?  :D :D
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: BarbyW on June 17, 2009, 06:34:01 AM
Or maybe he wants to see stunts performed - men being shot from a cannon etc ;D
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: Diggis on June 17, 2009, 06:35:45 AM
Or Maybe he wants to be the Stunt?  You going to shoot MrsB out of a cannon?! :o
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: BarbyW on June 17, 2009, 10:46:03 AM
To return to sanity and ask a serious question, I forgot to ask about
Quote1.  1 Picture of any official bordercrossing between north and south rebuilt since the re-union of the region. (show us your best)

As we showed you all our original border crossings now opened in Challenge 5, is this a new border crossing or just another picture of the best one we have already shown?
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: Pat on June 17, 2009, 01:45:41 PM
Quote from: BarbyW on June 17, 2009, 12:17:21 AM
No, Pat, you don't need to have a Resort City but the three places - beach, hotel and restaurant - need to be within 3 city tiles of each other if there are not in the same city tile.

Thank you Barby and what I think Fred wants from what I seen of say MattB posting (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=8096.msg253293#msg253293) is total dismantling of the checkpoints as since they are now no longer needed?
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: BarbyW on June 17, 2009, 01:49:09 PM
That's what I thought originally but then on re-reading saw this:
QuoteWe will have to take care of them to their every needs and keep the borderline intact, controlling both entry and exit from both sides.

It seems as though the controls are not to be dismantled.
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: Pat on June 17, 2009, 01:55:41 PM
hmmm So it seem's that you're right Barby we need to leave the checkpoints in place and can't close them...

Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: TheTeaCat on June 17, 2009, 03:50:09 PM
Quote
1.  1 Picture of any official bordercrossing between north and south rebuilt since the re-union of the region. (show us your best)

From how I read that I take it as being a bordercontrol that has redone(ie new building/fences removed etc) but I may be wrong.

Hoping to get my challenge completed on time ;)

:satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: mattb325 on June 17, 2009, 03:57:07 PM
Quote from: Pat on June 17, 2009, 01:45:41 PM
Thank you Barby and what I think Fred wants from what I seen of say MattB posting (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=8096.msg253293#msg253293) is total dismantling of the checkpoints as since they are now no longer needed?


Yes - I removed that one, but left the central checkpoint on the island. I assumed we needed to remove the border crossing from what MrB had posted.

At any rate, they can shoot intruders from the bell fry of the church in my picture, if need be  ;)
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: mrbisonm on June 17, 2009, 07:35:20 PM
Checkpoints should still be in place, except that they will be open for incoming and exiting traffic. We want to see a picture of one of those checkpoints re-opened, whether or not it is the same you showed in challenge 5, but please from a different angle. It is the mainentrance or maingate to the north or south we want a picture of.

Also there's no need for a resortcity, just a resto, horel and beach of high class and they can be on three different citytiles or on two or the same.
Imagine the Governor sends you on a vacation for 10 days to your choice, all expenses paid and no matter what it will cost, what would you choose?
......There you go, exactly that one we want to see.


Fred

BTW, don't shoot anyone without my permission here please. ;)
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: CabraBuitre on June 17, 2009, 08:16:22 PM
One more question of clarification... are we building this specifically for the mayor (and then others who want to follow in your footsteps, kinda like staying in the same hotel room Elvis did...) or are we supposed to build it really nice... and have the mayor staying/beaching/eating by off of those common folk....?

How's this for a stunt...?   :-\
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: Pat on June 18, 2009, 12:02:06 AM
Thats a good stunt there Cabra and thank you Fred for the clarifaction!!! Can we redo the check points to be more friendlier to the communities or do they have to stay the same?
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: mrbisonm on June 18, 2009, 07:07:51 AM
Cabrabuitre, you are building this for the challenge.....Make it nice looking for all those high luxury sims and all the mayores, because it is you, the Mayors, who will rate this and not the Governors.

Pat, of course you can redo any and every bordercheckpoint, but make sure to show us the main-entrance.

Fred
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: Pat on June 18, 2009, 03:00:24 PM
Thank you Fred... The Sims over at my place will be happy to get rid of them nasty military guys check points lol....
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: metarvo on June 24, 2009, 06:48:53 PM
I'm sorry, Fred, but it seems that I might not get Challenge 6 posted in time, due to a RL situation today that has caused me to be away from my SC4 computer.  &mmm  No excuse, I know, since I had all this time and spent part of my SC4 time in the last few days on things that are not related to GRV-II.  I realize that this will lose me some points, but I'll try to make up for it in Challenge 7.

EDIT: I do plan to post Challenge 6 tomorrow, though.  :)
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: mrbisonm on June 25, 2009, 06:31:00 AM
Hey don't worry , I couldn't do mine neither. We have until next sunday, without the Bonus point though, but also without the negative point. ;)
Please read my last post in the General discussion thread.
Good luck,

Fred
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: Jmouse on June 25, 2009, 02:15:10 PM
I should have my Challenge 6 posted this evening. Last week, my daughter had satellite TV installed, and one of the technicians cut my Cat5 DSL cable in the process - Oops! Although they taped it back together, it came apart sometime during the wee hours of Monday morning so I have been without an internet connection since then. It was properly fixed less tnan an hour ago, so hopefully it will be business as usual once again.

Apologies for being tardy - I did the best I could under circumstances entirely beyond my control...
Joan
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: mrbisonm on June 25, 2009, 08:03:39 PM
No problem Joan, we'll be waiting.

I just uploaded my Challenge 6.  Finally and this during a severe thunderstorm. &mmm

Fred
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: threestooges on June 27, 2009, 01:55:53 AM
Sorry to hear about the storm Fred. I should have my new HD installed and everything back onto it in time to get the rest of the pics posted by tomorrow evening. Hope all is well.
-Matt
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: mrbisonm on March 20, 2010, 03:35:06 PM
Judging Challenge 6

The Judging is open to everyone that is member of this site. We would like to hear from as many as possible.

When you judge one, please try to judge them all, but don't worry, you have all the time you need to do so. I will only count the points at the end of the GRV Challenge. First read the challenge 6 demands again (on page 1 of this thread), in the GRVII/Challenge thread/Challenge 6. Be fair but strict with the judging and make it short and simple as I did for those two mentioned above. Do NOT be influenced by the judgement of another member, be yourself and judge to your taste, logic and game and life experience.
Please judge the challenges as described below and besides leaving the points, also leave a short message explaining quickly why.
Thank You.

Here is an example of what you should write in their Challenge 6 Thread only, you don't need to make a whole big explanation for your points.
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Example Only:
1. 5 points, because it seems very real.
2. 3 points, because it is nice to visit once or twice but not a whole week, noty enough accomodies on the beach and too many people.
3. 5 points, just love it. I want to spend 5 weeks there. It looks soooo beautiful there.
4. 4 points, I like that restaurant and possible could spend all my vacation eating there, would have been better if situated closer to the hotel.
3. 5 points, just love it. I want to spend 5 weeks there. It looks soooo beautiful there, really nice.-------------------------------------------------------------

Points given

0 = requirements not met
1 = Poor
2 = acceptable
3 = good
4 = very good
5 = excellent

First of all I would like to talk about giving too high points to easily. Remember, this is NOT the STEX. ;) Judge as if you would do in real life, judge as if you were there and fully enjoy these premisses and being there. They have to be really perfect and excellent to be judged as a 5. Five is the perfect note and is not something we would give only because it looks good, but it is the whole surroundings and package that come along with it, details, location and everything that can make it perfect. Please don't be too easy on judging, this is *serious buissness*....;)

These are the 4 subjects you can judge in the following challenge 6 demands:

1. Bordercrossing. It will probably be hard to judge this for those who have never seen or experienced an official bordercrossing between two Nations, but for those who have, try to judge it as it would like IRL, or as close to real life as possible.

2. Beach. Judge the beach as it is supposed to be, beautiful, clean and just perfect as if you would be ready to spend a few weeks there for real. You will have to be able to fully enjoy that beach, if there's only a little something you don't like, don't give it 5 points, but 4, which is very good.

3. Hotel, Motel or Bread n'Breakfast. You would like to have to spend 10 days or 2 weeks there and you paid a lot of money for this, was it worth it? Besides the service that we cannot judge, make sure that you like where it is located. Check for quietness (traffic) for cleaniness (paths and gardens), general looks and luxury. Again, you paid the full price and want the best of the best, judge it so.

4. Restaurant. Make sure that the restaurant ain't too far like two or three tiles away, a point to check, then if you would like to spend a couple of evenings eating your supper in good company there and you like how it looks and where it is situated, only then you give it an excellent pointage, 5 that is. It has to look Perfect to your personal taste to be a 5, remember this.

5. I will only be allowed to judge the regionview and I will judge it on how real and advanced it looks. I will only give a max of 4 points for this, 1 =  fair, 2 = good, 3 = very good, 4 = excellent.

Have fun with this and be real. There's no rush at all, but please judge all that have posted a challenge 6. Do not post anything with those who have not yet posted their Challenge 6. Good luck and Thank you for participating.

Fred
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: CabraBuitre on April 03, 2011, 11:15:30 AM
I have FINALLY finished Challenge 6 and it is open for judging!  I also need to get to several of your submissions.  Is anyone else still working on this, even little by little?
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 6
Post by: Rayden on April 04, 2011, 06:28:10 AM
Quote from: mrbisonm on March 20, 2010, 03:35:06 PM

3. Hotel, Motel or Bread n'Breakfast


I believe Bread must be part of the Breakfast, but I suppose you meant Bed 'n' Breakfast  $%Grinno$%