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Title: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: vester on August 08, 2011, 03:42:01 PM
Here is my newest batting project: Church of Our Lady, Kalundborg.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVestSjaelland141007%2FPA140967_crc.jpg&hash=92a822a66172ac581ee3d9b2f91ac4c5e479476f)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFKK%2FVFKKW4.jpg&hash=1a1e60da43a858d9cee261b408554bcca0ffcb7f)

Here is an aerial photo:
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The shape is unique. Its shape as a Greek cross:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFKK%2F1_kirkens_grundplanRS.jpg&hash=e46c01e67a7af7eb3245a39710a1f7172c2437a3)
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Kalundborg
Post by: art128 on August 08, 2011, 04:26:44 PM
The real roof is blue or red ? On the first picture it's blue but on the aerial shot it's red!   ()what()

Anywa nice job man, I really like it.  &apls Will you make the brick fences and the small building also ?
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Kalundborg
Post by: Girafe on August 08, 2011, 05:20:27 PM
Model is good and the architecture really interesting  ;)

Following my previous comment, I would say that the roof textures need to be a little bit "dirtier" and I wait for an in-game pic for giving a ruling on the saturation of the bricks :)

Add more small details could avoid the plan effet of the structure and give relief  ;)
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Kalundborg
Post by: Jmouse on August 08, 2011, 05:30:54 PM
Glad to know you're BATting again, Arne. The shape is, indeed, unique and the church will make a fine addition to the LEX.

In the first photo, it appears to be about 2:30 pm and the roof looks like blue glass with lights shining from within or behind it. The red roof is not so easily explained, though. This (http://www.kulturarv.dk/1001fortaellinger/en_GB/church-of-our-lady-kalundborg) site tells an interesting story of rivalry between Fin the Troll and builder Esbern Snare and mentions that the spire collapsed on September 7, 1827. It does not explain the color differences between the roofs, though. Wiki doesn't mention the roof at all, so fill us in if you know the answer.

-Joan
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Kalundborg
Post by: Girafe on August 08, 2011, 05:38:17 PM
Quote from: Jmouse on August 08, 2011, 05:30:54 PM
It does not explain the color differences between the roofs, though. Wiki doesn't mention the roof at all, so fill us in if you know the answer.

I asked already this differencies and it's the answer:

Quote Arne pri-forum:
The reddish brown color is of the newly layed copper. The green is the color it gets after a few years: 

Moreover an interesting discussion came on the fact to have 2 versions and timing them (yes carl loves the timed props  ;D)
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Kalundborg
Post by: vester on August 09, 2011, 12:19:35 PM
Thank you all for your comments.

This church is from around 1220. According to traditions its build by Esbern Snare, brother to Absalon, Bishop of Roskilde and Archbishop of Lund. Absalon is said to started the construction of Roskilde Cathedral.

Quote from: art128 on August 08, 2011, 04:26:44 PM
The real roof is blue or red ? On the first picture it's blue but on the aerial shot it's red!   ()what()

Didn't even noticed it, just so used to building with copper roofs be restored.
The red is the color of copper that is newly laid, where as the turn green when ageing.

Here is an update:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFKK%2FVFKK5.jpg&hash=7fbeb6cce8298b71db612c6b430f2d12d106df7b)

Will try to dirty up the textures.
The textures is made out of a picture of a real church.
Quote from: art128 on August 08, 2011, 04:26:44 PM
Will you make the brick fences and the small building also ?

Thinking about it.
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Kalundborg
Post by: Sciurus on August 10, 2011, 01:32:35 AM
Nice church, but I find the basis too dark, there's too much contrast. Perhaps if you reduce it, it'll make the building a little less "virtual" and more realistic? ;)

Guillaume :thumbsup:
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: vester on September 13, 2011, 10:23:58 AM
Started batting another Church of Our Lady, the Copenhagen Cathedral
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFRK%2520KBH%2FVFKKbhV05.jpg&hash=8181c53e43e7a09d3fcff308c41bdeef23372b05)

Here is a few picture of the real one:
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(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fe%2Fe3%2FVor_Frue_Kirke_Copenhagen.jpg%2F800px-Vor_Frue_Kirke_Copenhagen.jpg&hash=8d166f5d76c1d67a09606601c296201fe24020d8)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-r_mENvdzzMQ/SXBmhScPpMI/AAAAAAAAMCc/yZFbuRCYEhY/s720/IMGP3262.JPG)

This church is of the architect F.C. Hansen. You might knom some of his other works like the Copenhagen City Court House or the Christiansborg Castle Church.
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: art128 on September 13, 2011, 10:29:59 AM
The two latest church are wonderful, Arne! That last one is really interesting with its column on the entrance.
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: Sciurus on September 13, 2011, 11:11:38 AM
Very nice church, but when will they been released? $%Grinno$%

Guillaume :thumbsup:
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: vester on September 14, 2011, 02:08:03 AM
Quote from: Sciurus on September 13, 2011, 11:11:38 AM
Very nice church, but when will they been released? $%Grinno$%

Guillaume :thumbsup:

Well this last one will probably be released before the first one.

Want to do a some probs for the Kalundborg Church Of Our Lady.
That might lead to a new updated lot of the San Andreas.
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: Girafe on September 14, 2011, 05:17:31 AM
model looks good but you can quickly upgrate it.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2Feccd8cccdacd630c83064add190a1674.jpg&hash=3721c47322d326cf9d60445bec1d07f9b24d1a57)

1. This texture is nice but I will incrase the contrast a little bit and add dirty stains.

2. You could model the cornice which add more details and could be visible.

3. gutter could be a nice addition too.

4. lot of details around the door like the fronton

5. Balustrade could be nice.

6. Bevel this part

7. Add another texture on this small cornice (white / grey could add diversity).
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: vester on September 14, 2011, 05:51:52 AM
TY for the comment.

All things that is planned.  ;D  ;)

On the textures: Planned to learn to unwrap it.


Just want everyone to see what I was working on.
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: Girafe on September 14, 2011, 03:39:09 PM
I have to learn it too.

SF gave on simtro these last days few explanations on this method. Moreover it will be helpful for the automatas but first approach was really a disaster. Seems to be more complex than I though  ;D
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: vester on September 16, 2011, 04:49:13 AM
Here is an update where I done some of the things Girafe pointed out:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFRK%2520KBH%2FVFKKbhV06F-1.jpg&hash=37299a22508312234a586195c8265c4ef80b7155)

Still haven't done anything about the textures.
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: Getron on September 16, 2011, 05:05:36 AM
@Vester,

A beautifull Danish Church. But is it a ingame picture? It's because of the pavement I ask. Those pavement looks awesome.

Getron
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: vester on September 16, 2011, 06:15:11 AM
Thank you.

Sorry, its not a in-game picture. I just like to place the model on a ground so that the shadow shows up.
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: art128 on September 16, 2011, 06:48:14 AM
Excellent modeling , Arne!
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: vester on September 17, 2011, 04:25:30 AM
Have model a little, but this time I just want to show you a beautiful picture I stumble on searcing for pictures
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FDKPhotos%2FCph%2F3765899093_32dfea0ef6_z.jpg&hash=c8715d86c881e561642ecbe647cbaa0db3c3493e)
Its taken by seier+seier (http://www.flickr.com/photos/seier/3765899093/)

Its one of the round windows at the back.
Title: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: vester on September 17, 2011, 10:13:55 AM
An update:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFRK%2520KBH%2FVFKKbhV7.jpg&hash=f680ade939f605e873a7143027fd599eab45d38f)

Still need to do the side entraces.
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: Lior on September 17, 2011, 10:21:31 AM
Nice BAT, very good work!! Looking forward to its release!!
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: art128 on September 17, 2011, 10:58:50 AM
Excellent job, Arne. :)
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: vester on September 17, 2011, 04:22:50 PM
Quote from: Girafe on September 14, 2011, 05:17:31 AM
1. This texture is nice but I will incrase the contrast a little bit and add dirty stains.

2. You could model the cornice which add more details and could be visible.

3. gutter could be a nice addition too.

4. lot of details around the door like the fronton

5. Balustrade could be nice.

6. Bevel this part

7. Add another texture on this small cornice (white / grey could add diversity).

Almost done:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFRK%2520KBH%2FVFKKbhV8n.jpg&hash=f1495d5927cfa33cb223439cfe689bf203c76102)
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: DebussyMan on September 17, 2011, 05:04:59 PM
Two words: Catmull-rom

Great Bat BTW....
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: Girafe on September 17, 2011, 05:09:27 PM
Modelisation is nice, I think you could add few small details but I trust you for this.  ;)

Regarding the textures, to be honest I am not comfortable. So I searched sample or a released BAT with this "green roof" and got this church (Emmaus church) from our Cathedralizer.

I think it's really close to what you need maybe he kept this texture somewhere and could send it to you &Thk/(

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2Fb72feeb543940be0219ea6f18be29026.jpg&hash=cdffde07da53fe42f8dc6f5385a636805d27bded)


Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: vester on September 18, 2011, 03:01:52 PM
Well, it looks very "bat" like, but far for the RL.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFRK%2520KBH%2FVFKKbhV9e.jpg&hash=dfd9088ac41fdc5f30cc61f0cf165405d27489c8)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFRK%2520KBH%2FVFKKbhV9s2.jpg&hash=18292e6b8325abac4073ab1030619a3f3d5d1b81)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFRK%2520KBH%2FVFKKbhV9w1.jpg&hash=6df8e33777ee50042592e342a3d03ce7ba626cba)

Have not used the unwrap yet. Just used more textures. Think I have 4 or 5 copper textures.
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: Girafe on September 18, 2011, 04:22:18 PM
Wall texture is good but copper texture is blurred and seems to be stretched...

and the gutters  :P

project is going nicely
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: vester on September 21, 2011, 02:42:16 PM
The stretched textures is just on the dome and on the roof below it. Not sure it can be avoided.

They are dome with a bend modifer and a uvw-map under it.
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: vester on September 24, 2011, 05:51:15 PM
Still adding details to the models:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFRK%2520KBH%2FVFKKbh13e.jpg&hash=14f16d7d1e5bdc75234a0907413170f6e08b3777)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFRK%2520KBH%2FVFKKbh13n.jpg&hash=96e76d84121992bd581cda695062000fc82ffe68)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFRK%2520KBH%2FVFKKbh13w.jpg&hash=33e90ac4423f1f70c31c597c30f952e0ca3d2376)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFRK%2520KBH%2FVFKKbh13s.jpg&hash=5065d96749dbe593e7fab20e124a18eb730e1171)
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: Girafe on September 25, 2011, 06:01:25 AM
Really good job on the details  &apls &apls

I found this, I think you already checked it too - I found few details you can add.

http://maps.google.fr/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:fr:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=church+of+our+lady+copenhagen&fb=1&gl=fr&hq=church+of+our+lady+copenhagen&hnear=church+of+our+lady+copenhagen&cid=0,0,158715376951825912&ei=BCN_TrW_HJCIhQezm70q&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&ved=0CAQQ_BI (http://maps.google.fr/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:fr:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=church+of+our+lady+copenhagen&fb=1&gl=fr&hq=church+of+our+lady+copenhagen&hnear=church+of+our+lady+copenhagen&cid=0,0,158715376951825912&ei=BCN_TrW_HJCIhQezm70q&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&ved=0CAQQ_BI)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ld-host.de%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2Fbc1b2bc60873df42bb3b5dfa17940a34.jpg&hash=00aef4ea681d1bd0e63284507a6fb53963b751f1)

With the aerial shot (even if the quality is not optimal, I think that roof tiles are strange (maybe too contrasted). Have you a good topview of the roof?

Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: vester on September 25, 2011, 02:24:25 PM
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFRK%2520KBH%2FVFKKbh14e.jpg&hash=fb775403e0414e38f25171cce8c8271fa1f94eeb)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFRK%2520KBH%2FVFKKbh14s.jpg&hash=c01ad7edadc071311f3cc9c70b3895028e523908)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFRK%2520KBH%2FVFKKbh14w.jpg&hash=2402e33c17c4345d8291cf995ac951213ca300e8)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFRK%2520KBH%2FVFKKbh14n.jpg&hash=5927f3d732bc224307db923c15f3b4bff294f079)

Have add a gutter and drain pipes at the back, changed stairs so its closer to RL and some details at the top of the tower and last worked some more with the textures.

Time to add some nightlights!
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: vester on September 27, 2011, 09:34:32 AM
Here is the night lights.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFRK%2520KBH%2FVFKKbh14wNL2-1.jpg&hash=fd6534fc8dd091c339207abf7adc618563cb1a1c)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FVFRK%2520KBH%2FVFKKbh14nNL-1.jpg&hash=52156da56298a945bc7975881f2e641cff7550ab)
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: Gesu94 on September 27, 2011, 10:00:44 AM
Great work  &apls
But i think that the cross on the top is too big...
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: Girafe on September 27, 2011, 04:17:37 PM
Looks good   ;)

I am not sure you need to be so dirty on the highest roof.

Did you already exported it for IG pics?
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: art128 on September 30, 2011, 06:46:46 AM
Now that is looking reallly really well!
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: Aaron Graham on October 03, 2011, 11:11:27 AM
Looks great. :D
Title: Re: VDK Church of Our Lady, Copenhagen
Post by: peter007 on October 04, 2011, 09:43:48 AM
Fabulous nightlighting.
It looks very real.

-Ernst