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Title: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: apeguy on March 28, 2012, 05:10:14 PM
The Shard London Bridge, also known as the London Bridge Tower or simply The Shard, is currently under construction by London Bridge Station in the borough of Southwark, and is sheduled for completion in May 2012. It is now the tallest building in the European Union. More information about it, as well as pictures, can be found here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shard_London_Bridge)

If someone can make this tower for SC4, that would be awesome, as The Shard would make a perfect centrepeice for any modern city. ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Haljackey on March 28, 2012, 06:18:28 PM
Europe's first supertall is a gem. Seems a little out of place where it is though, would feel more at home in a denser part of London's skyline.

Then again if this existed in SC4 we could put it into our own skyline creations! I'd love to see this structure BATted!
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: cmdp123789 on March 28, 2012, 07:24:08 PM
Would love to see that in SC4... I agree with the out of location... but, think about it...they are building it in front of a station and so basically they are aiming on creating a new attraction to the area besides regular offices...
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: WC_EEND on March 29, 2012, 03:35:39 AM
I've seen it under construction last time I was in London and I was genuinely impressed. I second this request for The Shard.
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: WannGLondon on April 01, 2012, 08:20:28 AM
I third this request. I do not understand why they would be building this structure in Southwark, but it will certainly make London's skyline look different.
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: apeguy on April 01, 2012, 09:09:16 AM
I agree that it is a strange place to build it, the city centre or Canary Wharf would have been a more likely place to build it, but personally I like the way it stands alone by the river. Well except for Guy's Hospital (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy%27s_Hospital), the smaller high-rise next to it. Which also holds a height record as the tallest hospital in the world.
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: WannGLondon on April 01, 2012, 09:14:23 AM
Quote from: apeguy on April 01, 2012, 09:09:16 AM
I agree that it is a strange place to build it, the city centre or Canary Wharf would have been a more likely place to build it, but personally I like the way it stands alone by the river. Well except for Guy's Hospital (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy%27s_Hospital), the smaller high-rise next to it. Which also holds a height record as the tallest hospital in the world.
Yeah, I agree. But personally, I don't know if you have been keeping up with London's projects and construction, but I am unhappy about what the skyline will look like in future years.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.thisislondon.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2007%2F07%2F22a_17_London_sky_500x265.jpg&hash=76a3260e381455da9b8aed9b5af354c39f37b7cd)
^^This does not look appealing to me.
I like the skyline like this;
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.earthinpictures.com%2Fworld%2Fgreat_britain%2Flondon%2Flondon_skyline_from_st_paul%27s_cathedral.jpg&hash=923b0f84f8f15ea117e770b44e4fe90895e87f77)
Only a few skycrapers. Oh well...
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Kitsune on April 01, 2012, 09:25:36 AM
Quote from: WannGLondon on April 01, 2012, 09:14:23 AM
Quote from: apeguy on April 01, 2012, 09:09:16 AM
I agree that it is a strange place to build it, the city centre or Canary Wharf would have been a more likely place to build it, but personally I like the way it stands alone by the river. Well except for Guy's Hospital (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy%27s_Hospital), the smaller high-rise next to it. Which also holds a height record as the tallest hospital in the world.
Yeah, I agree. But personally, I don't know if you have been keeping up with London's projects and construction, but I am unhappy about what the skyline will look like in future years.


Be glad you don't live in Toronto - we have at last count 5-6 70 storey + condo's that are about to be built.. as well a couple rumoured 1000 foot towers and lots of 40-50 storey stuff... all built by no-name bland architects. The city is truly earning its reputation as a sim city look-alike  :D
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: WannGLondon on April 01, 2012, 09:28:25 AM
Haha Kitsune, I live down in L.A., all of our skyscrapers are spread out amongst the city, but I looks rather balanced. :P
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Gurning_Chimp on April 30, 2012, 05:13:31 PM
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F3%2F39%2FManchester_Skyline.jpg&hash=5fc833cc3ece2015d481e55562f81cf4d9397ca1)
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: vester on April 30, 2012, 05:41:22 PM
Here in Copenhagen we are starting to get med-rise (not sure where the limits goes, might be skyscraper).

On the old site for the Carlsberg Breweries, a new neighborhood.
Here plans for some med/high-rises.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FMasterplanRS.jpg&hash=a289dd57777f4a6d738d1662c3f05c21d956b8d4)
The numbers I guess is the the height in meters.

There is going to be a station between the two bridges in lower right corner of the red border.


On Amager (island) we have a hotel that are leaning more that the tower in Pisa:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FDiv%2F3xns_bella_sky_hotel_interior_02.jpg&hash=4e70fe41207c67e2ebe92d958667b0d7bff7ca61)



Gurning_Chimp: Nice picture, but what is in it and what do you want to say by posting it ?
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Gurning_Chimp on April 30, 2012, 07:09:53 PM
That's Manchester, England. The tall building in the middle (The Beetham Tower) is in my opinion the ultimate 'sticking up out of nowhere' skyscraper.
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: wallasey on August 15, 2012, 03:03:05 AM
I've stood underneath the Shard and walked around the neighborhood. It's a great building, even better when up close! Cost £25 to go upto the viewing platform.

Looking through this board, it's great to see interest in UK tall buildings!

Manchester does well for interesting modern architecture, MediaCity in Salford has some quirky new additions.
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Xyloxadoria on October 15, 2013, 06:04:40 PM
Let me bring this thread back from the grave with a picture. Im sure you'll understand why.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQVIZfFf.jpg&hash=7ac94dfb669928c1142901c5874144fc38d3d3ab)

Im almost done with The Place, and I'm moving onto The Shard next.
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: mgarcia on October 15, 2013, 06:29:22 PM
  :o Really beautiful Xyloxadoria!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: whatevermind on October 15, 2013, 07:43:08 PM
Wow!  :o
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: droric on October 15, 2013, 10:52:15 PM
Nice work!!
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: kelis on October 16, 2013, 01:34:11 AM
Fantastic work with this beautiful building ! I can't wait to see the tower  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: vester on October 16, 2013, 01:49:57 AM
SHARP!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: noahclem on October 16, 2013, 04:31:05 AM
Exciting project  &apls
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Xyloxadoria on November 04, 2013, 06:22:05 PM
I have finished the Day Render of the Shard, and I'm moving onto starting nightlighting
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8aMCdVh.jpg&hash=6c0659b3ca8d7e818c38134591f46b3d3a7cf831)
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: eugenelavery on November 04, 2013, 07:08:10 PM
Incredible.
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Glazert on November 05, 2013, 09:59:23 AM
That looks pretty spectacular.
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Gugu3 on November 05, 2013, 10:14:51 AM
This is simply stunning...i can see the Shard everyday from my office in North West London and your recreation is truly amazing! &apls
Guglielmo
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Haljackey on November 05, 2013, 04:09:05 PM
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.skyscrapercity.com%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Feek3.gif&hash=2f874e12ae3d12858ed0e27761bce5c3075520e1)
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Swordmaster on November 05, 2013, 04:09:58 PM
That is simply stunning!


Cheers
Willy
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: WannGLondon on November 05, 2013, 05:50:37 PM
wow, just wow. &apls
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: APSMS on November 05, 2013, 06:08:51 PM
I find the building rather ugly.

But your modeling skills, well...let's just say I am thoroughly impressed with the work you're done on this. Some more of these &apls

and a thumbs up :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Girafe on November 05, 2013, 11:57:58 PM
The project is nice, but the way you did the glass is not correct. The cladding of the Shard has no tinte and can't be blue.
All the floors should be modeled and recover by a map which does the illusion of furniture inside. Moreover the glass is more transparent is reality. 
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Huston_N7 on November 06, 2013, 02:05:48 AM
Looks beautiful! Though for some reason, I just feel the type of blue coloration you've implemented looks a little...out of place.
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: art128 on November 06, 2013, 02:32:07 AM
Definitely not a fan of BATed bases, but it looks nice. IMO it would be better to make the sculpture, lamp post and grass area as props instead, so that people will be able to use it on other lots.

I also ditto what Girafe said. Otherwise, impressive model.
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Xyloxadoria on December 03, 2013, 09:45:44 AM
Hello Again! Im 95% Done with the Shard! All that's left is to actually put stuff on the lot, and write the description/readmes. (Not that anyone ever reads thoose)

Im posting  because Im open to suggestions as to what that "stuff" on the lot would be. Right now im going to use MattB325 props because they look "Londonish" overall, but im open to other prop packs. overlay textures etc as well. Heres what i have to fill.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyNsJcEY.jpg&hash=146c5f3b27b50b16d04c0c8b700e3d90bf6aee43)


reduced picture width  -Willy
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: noahclem on December 03, 2013, 10:17:27 AM
That's great you're doing props and textures instead of a rendered base--makes it a lot more flexible  :thumbsup:

I almost entirely stick to the following prop packs for lotting:

Namspopof props vol. 1 (http://www.toutsimcities.com/downloads/view/1780)
Namspopof props vo. 2 (http://www.toutsimcities.com/downloads/view/1882)
vv_propspack vol. 1 (can't find link but it's on TSC)

Excellently batted and scaled with HD renders these will cover your benches, people, garbages, newstands, those metal grate things that go under trees, bus stops, signs, and a bunch of other stuff. Many people will have them but they're not the most common dependencies. You could find some of the same things a little bit lower quality in porkie props which is very, very common.

Trees: the newer girafe ones, VIP ones, or CP ones are the gold standard IMHO. Most people will already have these installed too.

EDIT: to clarify, the older Girafe trees are also excellent but to have only flora, not props. CP's newest big flora pack is superior to the older--it's not HD if that matters to you but the models are superb.

For base and overlay textures I usually keep things simple and stick with original maxis ones. Combined with some sidewalk mods and gobias' terrain mods with base texture replacements they look great for people that install them and for those who don't they can't complain about another dependency ;)  Of course it all depends on what you plan to do.
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Girafe on December 03, 2013, 12:36:33 PM
Quote from: noahclem on December 03, 2013, 10:17:27 AM
That's great you're doing props and textures instead of a rendered base--makes it a lot more flexible  :thumbsup:

I almost entirely stick to the following prop packs for lotting:

Namspopof props vol. 1 (http://www.toutsimcities.com/downloads/view/1780)
Namspopof props vo. 2 (http://www.toutsimcities.com/downloads/view/1882)
vv_propspack vol. 1 (can't find link but it's on TSC) it's on devo http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=2979

Excellently batted and scaled with HD renders these will cover your benches, people, garbages, newstands, those metal grate things that go under trees, bus stops, signs, and a bunch of other stuff. Many people will have them but they're not the most common dependencies. You could find some of the same things a little bit lower quality in porkie props which is very, very common.

Trees: the newer girafe ones, VIP ones, or CP ones are the gold standard IMHO. Most people will already have these installed too.

EDIT: to clarify, the older Girafe trees are also excellent but to have only flora, not props. Many of the old pack have been updated  ;) and props are available

CP's newest big flora pack is superior to the older--it's not HD if that matters to you but the models are superb.

For base and overlay textures I usually keep things simple and stick with original maxis ones. Combined with some sidewalk mods and gobias' terrain mods with base texture replacements they look great for people that install them and for those who don't they can't complain about another dependency ;)  Of course it all depends on what you plan to do.

Regarding the BAT, it's too blue, bright and the floors are too empty. The green of the foliage is a little bit too bright too. Your system of blinds is strange.

Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Swordmaster on December 03, 2013, 01:48:53 PM
I certainly like the modeling! However, I tend to agree with Girafe that the blue is out of sync with the usual SC4 color palette (reminds me a bit of the older BATs). I hope you feel like doing a little tweaking there.


Cheers
Willy
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: jaredh on December 03, 2013, 02:51:45 PM
To me, the blue looks almost spot-on to all the pictures I can find on google...maybe a shade too dark, but not very much.
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Gugu3 on December 03, 2013, 02:55:41 PM
Actually Willy and Girafe I can guarantee you that the Shard might be exactly that colour!I'm living in London and love that skyscraper...and the thing i like most about it is the fact that it never has the same colour...it might be dark grey,blue and sometimes white depending on the sun and the different hours of the day...not easy to reproduce in SC4 :D
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: art128 on December 03, 2013, 10:29:28 PM
Quote from: jaredh on December 03, 2013, 02:51:45 PM
To me, the blue looks almost spot-on to all the pictures I can find on google...maybe a shade too dark, but not very much.


The thing is, It's not to duplicate how the building is IRL. the work of the BAT is to reproduce a real building and make it blend in the game very well.

It's an awesome model, that's a given. However, there's a few points (listed by Girafe) that needs to be corrected.

-The building is indeed a bit too blue. Right now it stands out. Of course it's good if a building stands out from the other, but in this case it stands out too much
-Emptiness of the floors. It really does add in the details if a building has some life inside it. Not too much but some desks, chairs etc. Right now we can see the structure's shadows on the floors. I have the same problem with my buildings, but if you manage to reduce it, it'll look greatly better.
Of course this adds up some render time because there's more poly, but nothing you can't adjust.

-Agree with Girafe on the foliage. I don' know much about Trees and their colors, but even to me that bright green looks quite too bright for it to be real.

-And finally the point I defend the most: the blinds. I don't want to be mean but they seriously look like cement block put behind the glass than blinds. I know you can't use the blind generator on this kind of complex architecture. Doing the blinds yourself might be a good idea. One by one. It's long, sure, but the result will be great and will not seem like it was made in a hurry to finish the BAT for some deadline.


Still I love the structure of the building. I might use only the smaller one though, as the Shard itself might be a little too big for my skyline.
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Girafe on December 04, 2013, 03:13:32 AM
The glass of the Shard has absolutely no blue tint. The blue color you can see sometimes comes from the color of the sky. However SC4 view like this pic is taken from above and the color of the Shard is the color of the ground depending on the transparency and the glossiness of the glass. In the case of the Shard both are not so high, it's for this reason we can see deep inside the building. Thing which is accentuated by the pyramid shape of the skyscraper.


(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2012%2F07%2F05%2Farticle-2169167-13EDC263000005DC-574_634x354.jpg&hash=80cd71af4c1bc0b854eb43dcfe616122822f0dfc)
Title: Re: The Shard London Bridge?
Post by: Gugu3 on December 12, 2013, 07:10:30 AM
Any progress on the Shard so far?