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Title: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: Kack on June 14, 2012, 07:36:59 AM
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Copenhagen Airport (IATA: CPH, ICAO: EKCH) is the main international airport serving Copenhagen, Denmark and the Øresund Region. It is located on the island of Amager, 8 kilometres (5.0 mi) south of Copenhagen city centre, and 24 kilometres (15 mi) west of Malmö city centre on the other side of the Øresund Bridge. The airport lies mainly in the municipality of Tårnby, with a small portion in neighboring Dragør. It is the largest airport in the Nordic countries, and one of the oldest international airports in Europe.

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To warm you guys up, here is a little teaser:
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I'm trying to recreate the whole aiport area, as good as I can. There is obviously some limitations coursed by Sim City 4.

More pictures will come!
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: apeguy on June 14, 2012, 09:04:22 AM
An MD based around an airport? This should be interesting to see. I look forward to seeing more pics as the surrounding area develops. :) :)


Also you might want to convert the last pic to jpg like the rest, mainly because they can take forever to load, and don't forget to un-pause the game when taking pics so you don't get the yellow border, it really helps to make a pic better. ;)
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: noahclem on June 14, 2012, 09:06:05 AM
Great start  &apls  I look forward to seeing how the area progresses!
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: WC_EEND on June 14, 2012, 11:15:07 AM
MD based around an airport huh? As an avgeek you have my undivided attention ;D

Xander
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: RickD on June 15, 2012, 01:02:44 AM
Oh yes, this is going to be great.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: rooker1 on June 15, 2012, 03:18:48 AM
Great first post.  Even after though you have been registered here for many years, let me welcome you.
As some of the others have already said....an airport MD, should be very interesting.

Please remember to post your pics as jpgs and change the one above when you get the chance, thank you.

Robin
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: art128 on June 15, 2012, 04:17:02 AM
That's one nice looking WIP! Can't wait to see more developments around the airport.
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: WannGLondon on June 15, 2012, 07:28:56 AM
Very, very cool.
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: Kack on June 15, 2012, 07:59:34 AM
Thank you for all the nice words!  &apls

And sorry for the .png picture. I have converted it .jpg.

Sadly, I realized that my measurement is not right. The runways do not have the right length and that courses that there is not enough space for the last terminal.

So... I started mapping a map and hopefully I can get it to work.

The bad thing is that all my work on the airport shown in the above picture is gone and I have to redo everything.   :-[

Maybe I will post a picture when the map is done. 
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: rooker1 on June 15, 2012, 09:00:38 AM
I suggest that you post pics of your work as you go.  A lot of us, maybe just me, don't know how to properly make an airport and would love to see some progressive work.
Just a thought,
Robin
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: nas-t on June 16, 2012, 07:05:42 AM
this is so cool.... can't wait to see more!  &apls
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: Kack on June 16, 2012, 09:44:51 AM
Okay. The map is finish. It is as good as I can get it. :-[

I marked the runways. They are the most important and they have to fit with each other and the city borders.

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and the real thing
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@rooker1: Good idea  :) I will try.
@nas-t. I'm glad that you like it.  $%Grinno$%
   
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: Kack on June 21, 2012, 12:01:15 PM
Here is a little taster of what I'm working on..

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Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: MR.Y on June 21, 2012, 12:12:18 PM
Nice Runways...do you will release them?
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: Kack on June 22, 2012, 12:40:58 PM
Runway 22L/04R crosses Runway 12/30.

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Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: art128 on June 22, 2012, 01:54:59 PM
Good progress with the runway, keep it up!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: nas-t on June 24, 2012, 09:24:06 AM
looks like custom stuff - good job &apls &apls
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: Exla357 on June 24, 2012, 10:03:43 AM
I'll keep an eye on this one.
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: krbe on June 24, 2012, 11:31:25 AM
Congratulations, CPH must be one of the hardest airports to recreate! Nothing conforms to a grid out there; so a few compromises must be reach (see for example the concourse connecting the larger Terminal 2 with Terminal 1 on the end of the crossing runway).

You should widen the aiming point a little so they don't just look like longer TDZs though; then we only need some SAS A330s and A340s! (and Norwegian 737s... As Cimber's out we'd be covered then)
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: Kack on July 04, 2012, 03:40:33 AM
Just a little update from EKCH.

art128: Thank you! It takes quite a time to make all the pieces for the runways.:)
nas-t: It is :D And thanks!
Exla357: Sounds great! Allways nice with some followers :)
krbe: Yes, indeed this is a very tough one to recreate. I'm trying to make a few comprimises as possible. Thanks for the great feedback!

And now... the pictures! This is a picture from runway 22R and it's displaced threshold.

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Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: rooker1 on July 06, 2012, 03:35:42 AM
Very interesting work.

Robin
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: Kack on July 10, 2012, 08:03:01 AM
It's time for a region overview

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The runways and taxiways are allmost finish.

My biggest problem, is that I have no 30degree (or so) taxiways.

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The area marked with a red circle is quite hard to recreate. The RMIP diagonal taxiways is 45 degrees so there are not going to fit.
The taxiway marked with blue, have the same problem. As you can see on my region overview, it do not look like the actual taxiway. But I just don't know how to fix this.

Besides this, I can not praise the people behind RMIP and other airport packs enough. Thanks for all your great work!  &apls
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: RickD on July 10, 2012, 08:08:03 AM
Hmm, the RMIP is already that complex, and still you could use maybe a few hundred more pieces.  :D But the similarity between your region shot and the real thing is astounding. I can definitely tell that it is the same airport.  &apls
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: art128 on July 10, 2012, 08:18:24 AM
Region view is great! the airports look alike!
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: rooker1 on July 10, 2012, 08:50:07 AM
I think you have done a fantastic work here.

Robin &apls
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: Kack on July 11, 2012, 03:31:24 AM
Replies  :thumbsup:

I'm so happy that you like my work guys! Keep following. It would get better. It's cool that you can see it's Copenhagen Airport :D


Small update
I just have to show you the area I worked on last night. The amount of puzzle pieces almost killed me.  :-[ I'm pretty happy with the result. But maybe I have to redo it, when it's time to place the terminals. But here it is!

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Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: nas-t on July 11, 2012, 05:30:53 AM
oh wow.... great update!  &apls &apls
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: art128 on July 11, 2012, 05:57:57 AM
Ahah, yes, the amount of puzzle pieces, I remember that from the last time I did my airport..... :D

Nice work, I really love that custom runway.
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: noahclem on July 11, 2012, 10:48:00 AM
Great progress  &apls

It is too bad there are no ~30 degree taxiway pieces, I'm sure they could be very useful. Perhaps if you asked the airport guys really nicely....

Keep it up  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: Kack on July 12, 2012, 10:31:56 AM
Replies
I think the airport guys have enough work to do with their large airport set, noahclem. I don't want to bother them.
art128, thank you! I like it too. But the textures are just not that good. Skid marks are missing and a lot of other small things. :)
nas-t, thanks! Keep following  &apls

Terminals

I'm experimenting a bit with the terminals. Let me say it like this.. They are tough!  :-[ Either the terminals or the taxiways look stupid. I'm aiming for the airport to look as real as possible, so I think they have to be diagonal. But here is a preview. I'm almost sure I will change this at least a couple of times.

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Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: art128 on July 12, 2012, 10:36:58 AM
I like how it looks! Excellent work.
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: rooker1 on July 13, 2012, 06:40:49 AM
I love how this is turning out. 
I think I should send you my region and you could set up my airport.....I suck at them and have very little patience or time to give it a 100%.  :P

Robin  &apls
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: krbe on July 13, 2012, 11:07:11 AM
This isn't too bad! And maybe if we ask WC_EEND nicely to rerender the SAS MD we could have some great close-ups of pier B too ;)

Note that the jetways on pier B should be attached to the little thingy sticking out from the main body of the terminal piece. Also, pier B is now fully SAS / Star Alliance, so that's where the Lufthansa plane belongs (with Easyjet in pier F, the loners).
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: Biriali on July 13, 2012, 02:08:24 PM
This looks quite promising. I don't think I've ever seen a MD/CJ centered solely around an airport - or an MD based on anything Danish for that matter...   :D &apls

Jeg glæder mig til at se mere!  ;D
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: Kack on July 13, 2012, 02:29:03 PM
Rooker1: Haha! Maybe when I'm done with this monster. Give me a year or two :D

krbe: Wow! You have such a great knowledge for the airport. You work in there, or? I'm not sure whre pier F is placed? Can you show it to me? The SCAG team made a jetway with a road underneath it, unfortunately it does not fit with the terminals I use. It could have been perfect for pier B. Thanks for all the tips. Great to have you here :)

Biriali: I'm glad to have you here. Hope you like the danish design :D  Det bliver endnu bedre næste gang  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: vester on July 13, 2012, 03:31:18 PM
Quote from: Kack on July 13, 2012, 02:29:03 PM
krbe: Wow! You have such a great knowledge for the airport. You work in there, or? I'm not sure whre pier F is placed? Can you show it to me? The SCAG team made a jetway with a road underneath it, unfortunately it does not fit with the terminals I use. It could have been perfect for pier B. Thanks for all the tips. Great to have you here :)

My guess is it the new GO terminal. Its seen in the front of the left side of this picture (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/CPH_LUFTHAVNEN_2011_%28ubt%29.JPG).
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: krbe on July 15, 2012, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: Kack on July 13, 2012, 02:29:03 PM
krbe: Wow! You have such a great knowledge for the airport. You work in there, or? I'm not sure whre pier F is placed? Can you show it to me? The SCAG team made a jetway with a road underneath it, unfortunately it does not fit with the terminals I use. It could have been perfect for pier B. Thanks for all the tips. Great to have you here :)

Still studying, unfortunately, but for a student I think I frequent it a bit too much -- I study at Aarhus, have my girlfriend in Copenhagen, and work and friends in Norway. So a couple of times a month I have to go somewhere! I love airports and airport history, and especially Scandinavian; it's amazing how diverse CPH, ARN and OSL are considering the fact that they are almost the same size -- for example the differences between the check in areas at OSL and CPH are gigantic.

Pier F is indeed CPH GO (terrible, terrible terminal -- take the walk down there next time you're there!). From above the RMIP terminal pieces fit perfectly, but since you seem quite familiar with the custom content creating stuff you should maybe put in a glass-to-roof glass texture at F.

When it comes to the roads, I think the ARIP puzzle pieces should be reserved for the "big" roads between the different areas. Indeed the buses ferrying passengers between C gates and the foreign commuter stands (which I use a lot) are driving along the taxiways (behind the SAS A340s, Thai 747s and Emirates 777s :D ).

And I don't mean to crush all your hope; but Kastrup has the most beautiful terminal I've ever seen, the now defunct (used as VIP-?) VL Terminal (http://www.cph.dk/CPH/DK/PRESSE/Fotogalleri/V.+L.+terminalen.htm), after Vilhelm Laurtizen, its architect. Today it sits at the end of the V-shaped taxiway protuberance off runway 12.

The last item is not necessarily something you need considering this is a recreation, but I hope you've seen the plans for a "Terminal A (http://www.airportterminals.dk/)"  (private LCC terminal not part of the "common" CPH complex -- apparently because the runways and infrastructure to some degree is public while the passenger bit is private and thus competition should be ensured at the grounds according to the proponents). Though who knows... Maybe this monster will take so many years you eventually have to put it in anyway!
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: Kack on August 01, 2012, 09:30:39 AM
krbe, it's so great to have you here! All you inputs are so nice.
I've just been two and a half week in the states. Visiting a lot of different airports. JFK, Newark, Orlando and Miami.
I flew from Copenhagen to Frankfurt and after that to JFK. Great to see all these airports again.

It's funny to taxi to the runway in CPH, when you can recognize all the taxiways and their layout. Now it's time for some rest and maybe some SC4. :D
Title: Re: Copenhagen Airport (CPH)
Post by: Kack on August 18, 2012, 10:17:52 AM
Sorry for the lack of updates.
I'm having a problem with game. Actually it's a big problem. Every time I try to enter a city, the game crashes. I don't know if it's plugin or what, but maybe the best thing to do, is to go through all of my plugins  :thumbsdown: :angrymore: