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Title: SimCity (2013) Beta?
Post by: fafalone on January 17, 2013, 05:39:01 PM
Anyone have any further information? Has anyone here been chosen? Anyone anywhere yet?

Unfortunately it seems like they're basically doing a public lottery, they don't ask any details about how you might be qualified beyond whether you play games a lot. Of course I signed up anyway. Might have missed it since the game is apparently coming out in less than 2 months.

http://www.simcity.com/en_US/beta/info
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: dragonshardz on January 17, 2013, 07:26:01 PM
Just got the email invite today. Literally can't say anything beyond that, due to NDA restrictions and not having played it at ALL yet.
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: wouanagaine on January 18, 2013, 06:14:47 AM
found that on reddit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-qw9cSI-7M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-qw9cSI-7M)

Mod Edit: Changed the <email></email> tags to <url></url> so that web browsers don't want to send e-mails
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: NCGAIO on January 18, 2013, 10:31:18 AM

??? It seems more as a sensationalist amateur marketing  worthy even EA's own  ( even has a link to pre-order in the description ).


Only good for one thing, makes it clear that the user interface has been optimized for the Portables that are the focus of EA


As for the game needless to say nothing ... everything that was said by community before already describes very well!


But I noticed a certain mismatch between what was shown and art that Ocean Quiley posted on his blog. %confuso
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: girlfromverona on January 18, 2013, 11:43:52 AM
Just watched that video in time - it's been taken down now. I'm guessing that means it wasn't part of a viral marketing campaign? ;)

I've pre-ordered the game but am reserving judgment till I can play it myself. Hoping like mad that I get chosen for the beta.
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: NCGAIO on January 18, 2013, 12:20:16 PM

:D He is still on the network - LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HlYWk7ahIA) .. prohibit nowadays is pushing for success in the search by all.


:thumbsdown: Attitude asshole .... only demonstrates the anachronistic sense that EA tries to push for the old games to justify adherence to their slots

()sad() Everything boils down to get the largest possible number of subscribers.


:bomb: This will work for a while logically (hundreds of millions of gamers are on the network and tens of millions of unwary will continue dropping in this traps ) the question is how long this will work.


%wrd Its shareholders are still very mistrustful ...
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: Haljackey on January 18, 2013, 03:38:56 PM
If you spend too long watching/reading this stuff it can drive you insane.

Had to take a breather after spending too much time on the SimCity Subreddit and The SC13 forums on ST. :P
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: Tilarium on January 18, 2013, 03:43:46 PM
I've beta tested so many games and signed up for far more then what I've tested.  This is one of the odder sign ups because they don't ask any experience as a beta tester or any PC stats.  Hoping I'll get picked, but we'll see what the future holds.
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: j-dub on January 18, 2013, 10:55:02 PM
I'm sure they still had a lot of sign ups. It's like why wouldn't have I? Might as well, since I had to be Origined on the console.
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: NCGAIO on January 19, 2013, 09:52:53 AM
Quote from: Tilarium on January 18, 2013, 03:43:46 PM
This is one of the odder sign ups because they don't ask any experience as a beta tester or any PC stats.  Hoping I'll get picked, but we'll see what the future holds.

Because obviously this is not a true Beta test... just more marketing before launch to try logically garner more subscribers for ORIGEN

"$Deal"$ - SimCity beta weekend lets players try one hour of the game, ready your Origin account (http://www.neoseeker.com/news/21966-simcity-beta-weekend-lets-players-try-one-hour-of-the-game-ready-your-origin-account/)


()what() One hour per city ??  in a big cities simulator ?? ... so it's good to go already decorating what is available to not waste time...


:o  Simcity - Beta  tutorial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HlYWk7ahIA)


But hurry if want to see this before the E.A. make withdraw also.
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: girlfromverona on January 25, 2013, 09:39:30 AM
Finally got my beta invite tonight, so I'm downloading the game right now. Will let you know my opinion once I've had a chance to play. ()stsfd()
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: Haljackey on January 25, 2013, 12:22:02 PM
Just finished installing the beta... going to fire it up soon.

There is a good chance I might get into the VIP beta... Trying to pull some strings to get it. (Unrestricted play time among other tings)
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: jigsaw on January 25, 2013, 02:06:27 PM
i've just emerged from my first hour of gameplay. i wont say anything IAW the NDA.

.. but i will draw pictures:

&mmm

???

%confuso

for the old school members around here: you wouldnt believe who has re-emerged since the beta: Oppie!
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: Haljackey on January 25, 2013, 05:35:37 PM
Ok I played the 1 hour allowed. Can't say more than that.

However it seems likely I'll be getting into the closed VIP beta. At least then I can say things like "I really like it!" :P
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: NCGAIO on January 25, 2013, 05:46:46 PM

Then could at least make a comment on whether saw something like this ...

http://www.youtube.com/v/GOkszbGWVI4

Or maybe only if these things are actually present ...  http://www.youtube.com/v/oTuLFIwlsUI (http://www.youtube.com/v/oTuLFIwlsUI)

Just to remember this was the publicity for launch the old Simcity.

http://www.youtube.com/v/eRWXzof8VOc

did not think the game was very similar, it is not!
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: mike3775 on January 25, 2013, 05:54:18 PM
How lame they are forcing people who actually do the beta to not say anything.  If I got in on the beta, I would gie my honest opinion of the game and if Maxis/EA didnt like it, tough, make a better game or grow thicker skin, because I believe in letting people know how I feel restrictions aside, because if you do not want negative feedback going public, DO NOT RELEASE A BETA THEN
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: Serkanner on January 26, 2013, 04:49:25 AM
I received the Beta key this morning. I am eager to try it out.
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: Delecto on January 26, 2013, 04:55:03 AM
I'm downloading the Beta right now.
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: Girafe on January 26, 2013, 05:36:15 AM
I got a key this morning, but seems the beta is so poor... that if someone is intersted in, I give it.
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: sunv123 on January 26, 2013, 06:23:26 AM
Just got my Key today.... not sure that I want to download.
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: fafalone on January 26, 2013, 07:26:38 AM
Damn I know my answers couldn't have disqualified me, must have signed up too late. Didn't get selected =(

I'm pretty sure they pulled off another fail like societies, but I did want to try. Have to wait now.
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: Haljackey on January 26, 2013, 07:28:41 AM
Can't say much based on the EULA other than 'I really like it', but I really need more than an hour to form an opinion of the game.

It's ridiculously easy to stay in the black, and there are still a lot of bugs to be worked out which is understandable. I had two suggestions for them so far:

1. There is no windowed fullscreen mode. I have two monitors and like to alt-tab the game to use something like an internet browser on my secondary monitor. Fullscreen minimizes the game and windowed doesn't give me the full experience. Most modern games have this like Starcraft II, and even old games like SimCity 4 were capable of this.

2. There needs to be an undo button. While this function was never in any previous SimCity title, there is no save feature this time around... Anything you do is permanent due to always-online. If I made a huge mistake in earlier titles I would quit without saving... That fail-safe is no longer there.

Everything else I have to say about it has pretty much been said before.

EDIT: Oh, and based on the what I've experienced in the beta so far, SC13 will need a NAM of it's own. :P
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: BarbyW on January 26, 2013, 07:56:44 AM
I shan't be buying this at 79,99€. I've had my beta key and can't decide whether to try it or not. I'll think about it.

Edit: I've thought about it and decided not to bother so if anyone wants my product key send me a PM.
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: NCGAIO on January 26, 2013, 08:10:50 AM

I think the problem is not only the key, there are even some keygens running on the network, the big problem is having to access Origin to see this.


I hope someone makes good advantage of this generous offer!
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: mike3775 on January 26, 2013, 04:27:39 PM
Quote2. There needs to be an undo button. While this function was never in any previous SimCity title, there is no save feature this time around... Anything you do is permanent due to always-online. If I made a huge mistake in earlier titles I would quit without saving... That fail-safe is no longer there.

Right there is a major reason why I wont even bother.  If I cannot undo something, its not worth it.  Plus I hate always connected garbage.  I don't allow many of my PC programs willy nilly access to the net, so why should I be forced to allow a game?
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: Serkanner on January 27, 2013, 03:46:22 AM
I have played a few one-hour sessions and have enjoyed them thoroughly. It differs is a lot from SC4 but nevertheless I had the real Simcity feel when playing. Having only tested a few of the possibilities I am pretty sure I'll buy this version and continue playing Simcity for perhaps another decade or two ( I played ALL versions so far ).

In my humble opinion MAXIS/EA did a great job.
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: sunv123 on January 27, 2013, 06:34:41 AM
I've been thinking about it overnight and I have to say, no for me. Sorry guys, but it's a no-no for me. Anybody who want's my key just PM me and i'll just pass it over to you.

Thanks.
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: Twyla on January 27, 2013, 07:01:10 AM
If anyone's interested, someone (*ahem*) posted a comprehensive review of the Beta (http://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/SimCity-Closed-Beta-Impressions/m-p/428960#M4781) on EA's forums.
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: BarbyW on January 27, 2013, 07:56:30 AM
I am definitely not spending 79,99€ on this. Not impressed after reading the reviews.
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: vortext on January 27, 2013, 08:20:48 AM
Very thorough review Twyla, well done! Having read half of the pages, I'm still not sure if I buy it. And does anyone else finds it strange the beta is 1) restricted to one hour with many options turned off and 2) it's only a month before release? Can't shake the feeling it's a marketing ploy to make people feel like they're involved. &mmm
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: fafalone on January 27, 2013, 02:37:13 PM
Wow I knew there were going to be some things I didn't like but good god did they completely screw this up. Pretty graphics can't redeem the fact that every single other aspect is an enormous step backwards from SC4. I suspect everyone in the SimCity 4 community will treat it like Societies: ignore it and keep hoping that one day they'll actually make a sequel to SC4.

Let's stop calling it SimCity 5. It's not good enough to be called a successor, let alone a worthy one. SimCity Societies wasn't SC5, and neither is this.
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: sunv123 on January 27, 2013, 02:43:00 PM
What should we call it then? It's clearly not Simcity like we know it, so maybe it's just Simcity Societies 2? Not worthy to be Simcity 5 if it's a $70 Facebook game.

Umm, anybody want my key? If nobody wants it, i'll just give it away at Simtropolis, where there seems to be a HUGE desire for Simcity Societies 2.
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: sim_link on January 27, 2013, 02:45:07 PM
I didn't sign up for the beta, largely because I'm a bit on the busy side this weekend. But judging by the reviews, I'm not sad I missed it. It'd be cool to get my hands on it, but I'm certainly not heart broken. But, based on the reviews, I'm going to wait for the price to drop to even consider buying it.

To have to have an internet connection for basic game functions is, IMO, unjustifiable with the price tag. If I have to wait years for it to come down to a price I deem fine, so be it. I have to say though, I'm getting the feeling there will be a lot of DLC for this game. Just go to the The Sims 3 store to see what I mean...

To those who've enjoyed, awesome. Glad you do. :) But for me, the more I see/read, the more I'm not going to buy it (yet).

As for what to call it, on my site (and on ST) it's reffered to as SimCity (2013)... maybe do that here as well?
Title: Re: SimCity 5 Beta?
Post by: fafalone on January 27, 2013, 07:32:15 PM
Call it by its real title; SimCity 2013.

Fits perfectly. Not a successor to SimCity 4, and a giant tumble backwards to barely better than SimCity 2000 (debatable, I'd still rather play 2000), and not even as good as SimCity 3000.
Title: Re: SimCity (2013) Beta?
Post by: catty on January 28, 2013, 12:57:35 AM
Link to a New Zealand review of SimCity 2013

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/blogs/game-junkie/8232089/Becoming-God-playing-the-SimCity-beta

if you are wondering why his internet connection dropped out a few times while playing it, this is New Zealand internet access to the world

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F0%2F02%2FSouthern_Cross_Cable_route.svg%2F500px-Southern_Cross_Cable_route.svg.png&hash=c9b3231865a279a71b5341e36179517c610367e6)

the cable is 28,900 km long and travels from

1.  Alexandria, NSW, Australia
2.  Brookvale, NSW, Australia
3.  Suva, Fiji
4.  Whenuapai, New Zealand
5.  Takapuna, New Zealand
6.  Kahe Point, Hawaii, USA
7.  Samuel M. Spencer Beach, Hawaii, USA
8.  Hillsboro, Oregon, USA
9.  San Jose, California, USA (Terrestrial Connection only)
10. Morro Bay, California, USA

in a series of hops, Kim Dotcom (Megaupload) is talking about added a second cable always assuming he doesn't end in jail in America first.

-catty
Title: Re: SimCity (2013) Beta?
Post by: fafalone on January 28, 2013, 12:08:05 PM
That's another reason why forcing always online is a bad idea.  So much of the world simply doesn't have a fast, reliable connection.

An even bigger problem is the fact that EA is not going to keep the servers around more than a couple years. We're still playing SC4 10 years in; nobody can think SC2013 servers will be around in 2023. Not that anyone would still be interested in playing, because the restrictions on custom content will limit the long term value of the game.

One day, after you've invested years into building your perfect cities, EA will simply delete it and you won't be able to play anymore.


And thanks for changing the thread title Tarkus :)
Title: Re: SimCity (2013) Beta?
Post by: fafalone on February 16, 2013, 08:49:31 PM
Well I played the second closed beta today. There's a couple cool features, but the limitations are so overwhelming that I can't see spending $80 for the release.

Case in point, I had to download and install Origin to play it. I'm running a normal Windows 7 PC with normal hardware, nothing crazy. Download and install origin, and keep getting "Windows cannot access the specified file..."... despite being on admin account and using run as admin. When it wasn't giving that error message, it was because origin.exe kept deleting itself. I checked online, this was not an uncommon problem, although no one else's solutions worked for me. After a 20 minute wait I spent 45 minutes on the phone with tech support trying all the standard crap (from a guy who claimed to have never heard about this problem despite all the forum posts indicating it was far from unique), which ended with him referring me to level 2 support. No, it was not a call transfer. He said he'd submit a report and they'd call me sometime next week (after the beta ended). And even though I could run origin on my laptop, it's DRM crap so I couldn't just download what I needed then run it on my desktop. Good job guys.

So I fixed the problem myself by using last month's version of origin, which worked perfectly, making me all the angrier at being told it was my computer and I might have a trojan that was doing it. Yeah right. Anyone claiming this 'always online' crap doesn't hurt legit users is full of _____.

All the complaints against the new game have been gone over, so I won't repeat them, but I did want to add my personal assessment that the good parts aren't enough to make the game enjoyable.

It's another Societies... we'll just turn our backs, keep playing SC4, and longing for the day when they make SC5.