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Title: PropPacks-How do i do (a newbie)
Post by: erdellas on August 28, 2014, 10:15:45 AM
hi

i have downloaded bsc mega propback cp vol02. But i cant see trees and the other things in game .
what do i need ?

Thanks.
Title: Re: PropPacks-How do i do (a newbie)
Post by: art128 on August 28, 2014, 10:32:55 AM
It's prop pack, not prop back. :)

it's normal that you do not see anything in-game as it is, well, a prop pack. it contains props which are details you put on lots. These lots will then appear in game. ;)
Title: Re: PropPacks-How do i do (a newbie)
Post by: erdellas on August 28, 2014, 10:57:34 AM
Quote from: art128 on August 28, 2014, 10:32:55 AM
It's prop pack, not prop back. :)

it's normal that you do not see anything in-game as it is, well, a prop pack. it contains props which are details you put on lots. These lots will then appear in game. ;)

Thanks again for answering:)
So they will be available soon. righT?

btw what is wrong with that verification thing? so annoying:/
Title: Re: PropPacks-How do i do (a newbie)
Post by: trabman11 on August 28, 2014, 11:46:23 AM
You misunderstood art's reply. Prop packs contain props for custom lots (buildings, stations, and other stuff you can download from several SimCity4 sites).

"They will be available soon, right?"                                         
                                                             NO!  ()flamdev()

This is because lots and other fun things using these props (as well as props from other prop packs listed here -----> http://www.sc4devotion.com/dependencies.html  (http://www.sc4devotion.com/dependencies.html)).
Props and bats (bats are props that are models of buildings) are these wonderful little things that can make your cities look like this > http://community.simtropolis.com/journal/4164/entry-21847-update-1-downtown-columbia/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/journal/4164/entry-21847-update-1-downtown-columbia/)< or like this > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SimCity4_Rush_Hour_Transport_Additional_Features.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SimCity4_Rush_Hour_Transport_Additional_Features.png) ( both of these use props of course, but the first is using custom props, such as from Cp's proppackvol 2 - there is also a vol 1 that you should get) .

I'm sure there is some page or person(s) on this site thatcan explain a whole lot better what props, bats, and lots are, and what a whole other slew of stuff is better than I could.
There is also a program called the Lot Editor, created by Maxis (the devs of SC4), that allows you to create your own lots. But props do not just extend to lots, oh no, they can be used for other mods such as this one! --> http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1901 (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1901), or this one ---> http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=115 (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=115), or even this one --> http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=2959 (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=2959) and many, many more!!!

So yah. I hope this helps.  ;)


Edit: Also, which verification thingy? I believe there is a topic on the forums for those kind of things  ;)
Title: Re: PropPacks-How do i do (a newbie)
Post by: erdellas on August 28, 2014, 12:21:50 PM
Quote from: trabman11 on August 28, 2014, 11:46:23 AM
You misunderstood art's reply. Prop packs contain props for custom lots (buildings, stations, and other stuff you can download from several SimCity4 sites).

"They will be available soon, right?"                                         
                                                             NO!  ()flamdev()

This is because lots and other fun things using these props (as well as props from other prop packs listed here -----> http://www.sc4devotion.com/dependencies.html  (http://www.sc4devotion.com/dependencies.html)).
Props and bats (bats are props that are models of buildings) are these wonderful little things that can make your cities look like this > http://community.simtropolis.com/journal/4164/entry-21847-update-1-downtown-columbia/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/journal/4164/entry-21847-update-1-downtown-columbia/)< or like this > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SimCity4_Rush_Hour_Transport_Additional_Features.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SimCity4_Rush_Hour_Transport_Additional_Features.png) ( both of these use props of course, but the first is using custom props, such as from Cp's proppackvol 2 - there is also a vol 1 that you should get) .

I'm sure there is some page or person(s) on this site thatcan explain a whole lot better what props, bats, and lots are, and what a whole other slew of stuff is better than I could.
There is also a program called the Lot Editor, created by Maxis (the devs of SC4), that allows you to create your own lots. But props do not just extend to lots, oh no, they can be used for other mods such as this one! --> http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1901 (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1901), or this one ---> http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=115 (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=115), or even this one --> http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=2959 (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=2959) and many, many more!!!

So yah. I hope this helps.  ;)


Edit: Also, which verification thingy? I believe there is a topic on the forums for those kind of things  ;)

Thanks.

So correct me if i'm wrong.

I need lots to run this prop pack. But which lot?

i couldnt understand what should i look for in the dependency page.There are prop packs too.
I dont even know what lex and stex means.

ps:I need to answer several questions each time i write a message to make them sure i am not a bot. That is what i mean by verification.
Title: Re: PropPacks-How do i do (a newbie)
Post by: trabman11 on August 28, 2014, 12:49:42 PM
First of all, STEX = Simtropolis File Exchange found here ---> http://community.simtropolis.com/files/
                LEX   = SC4 Devotion Lot Exchange found here ---> http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/ (Need to register for this one)

No, you do not need lots to run the prop pack, but in order for lots and other things that require dependencies (dependencies are props and sometimes other lots that a particular lot are mod file needs in order to function correctly), they need the prop packs and sometimes other things, in order to function properly.

So - Custom Lots/ Mods [sometimes] need  Props and/or texture packs(which are like prop packs, except for textures) in order to function properly.
Prop/Texture Packs do not need lots and mods to function properly, as they are not an functioning thing in the game, unlike a building, or a tree mod would be.

That dependency page stuff was just for reference, just to show you that if you that different lots use different dependencies (are sometimes they use the same ones). Also, that list, as I should have stated before, contains a few broken links here and there, so you might have to manually search for those props and textures in the search bar, (this is if you were to ever download something that needed a prop/ dependency, the links given by the author of that file might be outdated, etc.)

For the Verification thing, I believe that I also had this issue first using the forums. It is just a security feature and you should not need to fill out that stuff about adding numbers, filling out dates, and writing the first name of some famous person after a few more times posting on the forums  ;)

Though if this persists, then I think there is a thread for this, but I'm  not sure where it is at the moment, you could start a new topic (if that is practical - sorry to any mods If I am giving incorrect advice -) and state your issue there. If not hopefully one of the moderators will see this post and help you  &opr
Title: Re: PropPacks-How do i do (a newbie)
Post by: trabman11 on August 28, 2014, 01:00:12 PM
Also, there are many lots that use prop pack. To quickly look as some, just go to Simtropolis.com and go to the "St/Exchange" tab at the top. Then, on the left there should be several tabs, the second one being SimCity4, click on that. Now, you are able to look at hundreds of pages of lots, mods, bats, hats and whatever else your heart desires  :D  ;)

There are many lots and mods that use the Cp Prop pack Vol2 that you were talking about ( though if you are going to use any lots or mods with that prop pack, you will undoubtedly also need Cp prop pack Vol1 and a couple of other prop packs (and Cp's prop packs are usually there just to make the lot look pretty with all the trees and plants it contains).  :)

Edit: I'm sorry I'm laying so much info down on you  &mmm, but I"m sure that you, just like me, will eventually get the hang of all this wonderful mumbo-jumbo that makes up the SC4 Community, and its many, varying, and annoying dependencies.  ;D


Title: Re: PropPacks-How do i do (a newbie)
Post by: trabman11 on August 28, 2014, 01:14:33 PM
Also, if you want those trees to show up in game, you should download this thing I linked to you earlier -->http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1901

Dependancies ---->http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=631
                     ---->http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1180

Now remember, the SC4 File Exchange (LEX) accounts, and the accounts to this forum are two different things, so make sure you know which one is which, if you decide to sign up for both.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: PropPacks-How do i do (a newbie)
Post by: erdellas on August 29, 2014, 07:51:45 AM
Quote from: trabman11 on August 28, 2014, 01:14:33 PM
Also, if you want those trees to show up in game, you should download this thing I linked to you earlier -->http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1901

Dependancies ---->http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=631
                     ---->http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1180

Now remember, the SC4 File Exchange (LEX) accounts, and the accounts to this forum are two different things, so make sure you know which one is which, if you decide to sign up for both.  :thumbsup:

Thanks a lot really. some different trees has come. But actually i wanted some plobbable trees. that was my goal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61GyXSPGL0M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61GyXSPGL0M)
In that video, the guy is using plobbable trees. and he has too much addons on game.

do u know what these mods are especially 2x2, 3x3 or 4x4 plobbable trees?
Title: Re: PropPacks-How do i do (a newbie)
Post by: trabman11 on August 29, 2014, 10:01:20 AM
Oh....there are tons!!!! Though most of them require dependencies. There are some mayor mod and plopable trees by Pegasus that I use. There are some other ones that I have seen, though, unfortunately, I have never gotten around to looking for them. though I;m sure that if you type in some key words, like, SC4 ploppable trees, or something, you'll be able to find some  ;)

Mayor Mod --> http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/20891-peg-mtp-mayor-menu-pine-tree-mod/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/20891-peg-mtp-mayor-menu-pine-tree-mod/)
God Mod --> http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/20891-peg-mtp-mayor-menu-pine-tree-mod/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/20891-peg-mtp-mayor-menu-pine-tree-mod/)
Plopable --> http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/4515-peg-seasonal-woods-v206b/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/4515-peg-seasonal-woods-v206b/)  (<-- for seasonal)
                                                                              or
                   http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/4526-peg-random-woods-v206/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/4526-peg-random-woods-v206/)  (<-- non-seasonal, aka normal woods)

I don't believe that these use any dependancies. However, I will warn you now, some of Pegasus's stuff contains prop files that contain exemplars that can cause this 'disease' know as prop pox to occur in game. This usually happens after you save a city that has used these corrupted prop files, in which the city size, I believe I read here on the forums, exedes 6 mb. Though, I've run into this problem with cities lesser in size. Though, the files I've linked on't have these problems, just a select few, which I doubt you will ever use. This also goes for any other lots that contain prop files with exemplars that override each other. So be careful if you are downloading anything, from anywhere. ;)

Here is the link to the forums about prop pox if you'd like to read more about it ---> http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=7066.0 (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=7066.0)
Title: Re: PropPacks-How do i do (a newbie)
Post by: catty on August 29, 2014, 12:04:13 PM
Quote from: erdellas on August 28, 2014, 12:21:50 PM
...ps:I need to answer several questions each time i write a message to make them sure i am not a bot. That is what i mean by verification.

From memory you just have to make one more post before the "verification" stops, there has been some discussion on replacing it with another anti-spam program which is easier to use or getting rid of it all together and having the forum moderators release people's posts after checking them ... but its still a discussion at this stage.

As for trabman11  thanks for taking the time to answer erdellas questions and a karma point is heading your way.

-catty
moderator
Title: Re: PropPacks-How do i do (a newbie)
Post by: erdellas on August 29, 2014, 12:06:55 PM
Quote from: trabman11 on August 29, 2014, 10:01:20 AM
Oh....there are tons!!!! Though most of them require dependencies. There are some mayor mod and plopable trees by Pegasus that I use. There are some other ones that I have seen, though, unfortunately, I have never gotten around to looking for them. though I;m sure that if you type in some key words, like, SC4 ploppable trees, or something, you'll be able to find some  ;)

Mayor Mod --> http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/20891-peg-mtp-mayor-menu-pine-tree-mod/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/20891-peg-mtp-mayor-menu-pine-tree-mod/)
God Mod --> http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/20891-peg-mtp-mayor-menu-pine-tree-mod/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/20891-peg-mtp-mayor-menu-pine-tree-mod/)
Plopable --> http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/4515-peg-seasonal-woods-v206b/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/4515-peg-seasonal-woods-v206b/)  (<-- for seasonal)
                                                                              or
                   http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/4526-peg-random-woods-v206/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/4526-peg-random-woods-v206/)  (<-- non-seasonal, aka normal woods)

I don't believe that these use any dependancies. However, I will warn you now, some of Pegasus's stuff contains prop files that contain exemplars that can cause this 'disease' know as prop pox to occur in game. This usually happens after you save a city that has used these corrupted prop files, in which the city size, I believe I read here on the forums, exedes 6 mb. Though, I've run into this problem with cities lesser in size. Though, the files I've linked on't have these problems, just a select few, which I doubt you will ever use. This also goes for any other lots that contain prop files with exemplars that override each other. So be careful if you are downloading anything, from anywhere. ;)

Here is the link to the forums about prop pox if you'd like to read more about it ---> http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=7066.0 (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=7066.0)

I think i got what i m looking for. Thanks a lot. If u have some other nice mods(packs) in mind, i would appreciate if u could tell me:)
Title: Re: PropPacks-How do i do (a newbie)
Post by: trabman11 on August 31, 2014, 11:42:51 AM
I was happy to help erdellas.  :)  Though I appreciate that karma point Catty!   &blush  :D

About those Mod packs:

Not a Mod but essentials - T Wreck's Query Fix: http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/22400-maxis-prop-names-and-query-fix/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/22400-maxis-prop-names-and-query-fix/)
                                    - Buildings as Props #1, and #2 (Will be the second and third files there: http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?page=9 (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?page=9)
                                    - Missing Landmarks Plugin: http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/21286-plugin-landmark-props/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/21286-plugin-landmark-props/)
                                    - Extra Cheats Plugin  ()flamdev(): http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/21118-simcity-4-extra-cheats-plugin/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/21118-simcity-4-extra-cheats-plugin/)

The NAM v32 (or higher  :P)- http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=851 (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=851)

There are several other "essential files" that I would link to you, but I forgot that forum on Simtropolis in which they ther were all listed  &cry2. But these would have included fixes to some of the rewards lots, (such as the grand railway stations which is impossible to unlock due to some dev's lazy coding  ;D) and some some fixes to automa. Sorry I forgot where to find these  &mmm.

The Industrial Revolution Mod by T Wrecks,
          Base Set: http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/28268-industrial-revolution-mod-base-pack-maxis-lots/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/28268-industrial-revolution-mod-base-pack-maxis-lots/)
          Addon #1Dirty Industry: http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/28274-industrial-revolution-mod-i-d-addon-set-1/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/28274-industrial-revolution-mod-i-d-addon-set-1/)
          Addon #1 Manufacturing: http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/28283-industrial-revolution-mod-i-m-addon-set1/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/28283-industrial-revolution-mod-i-m-addon-set1/)
       
There are some more ploppable lots which you can also download from T wrecks, just click on his profile pic and it will take you to a list of his works.

Maxis Seasonal and Residential Relots: http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/28771-maxis-seasonal-residential-commercial-lots/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/28771-maxis-seasonal-residential-commercial-lots/)

                                                                                 ^^^ Need those darn dependencies  :'( ^^^

I'd consider these (mainly the first part) basic mods that you should use, IMO. The IRM however will only work in pre existing cities if you either bulldoze all your industry there and start from scratch, or modify the dat files for those lots. So you are better off starting a new region witht he IRM. Though for the mo under it, you don't need to start a new city to use in properly ;)

There are some other mods I use, but they are purely cosmetic. Such as the Columbus Terrain Mod and the Italia Tree Controller. But you don't need those unless you want to make evewyting wook vewy pwtty  :D.

You should explore the LEX and STEX, and possible some ether SC4 websites and fine a mix of things, that would fit your own style of playing  :thumbsup:.
Title: Re: PropPacks-How do i do (a newbie)
Post by: erdellas on August 31, 2014, 04:09:25 PM
Quote from: trabman11 on August 31, 2014, 11:42:51 AM
I was happy to help erdellas.  :)  Though I appreciate that karma point Catty!   &blush  :D

About those Mod packs:

Not a Mod but essentials - T Wreck's Query Fix: http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/22400-maxis-prop-names-and-query-fix/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/22400-maxis-prop-names-and-query-fix/)
                                    - Buildings as Props #1, and #2 (Will be the second and third files there: http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?page=9 (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?page=9)
                                    - Missing Landmarks Plugin: http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/21286-plugin-landmark-props/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/21286-plugin-landmark-props/)
                                    - Extra Cheats Plugin  ()flamdev(): http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/21118-simcity-4-extra-cheats-plugin/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/21118-simcity-4-extra-cheats-plugin/)

The NAM v32 (or higher  :P)- http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=851 (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=851)

There are several other "essential files" that I would link to you, but I forgot that forum on Simtropolis in which they ther were all listed  &cry2. But these would have included fixes to some of the rewards lots, (such as the grand railway stations which is impossible to unlock due to some dev's lazy coding  ;D) and some some fixes to automa. Sorry I forgot where to find these  &mmm.

The Industrial Revolution Mod by T Wrecks,
          Base Set: http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/28268-industrial-revolution-mod-base-pack-maxis-lots/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/28268-industrial-revolution-mod-base-pack-maxis-lots/)
          Addon #1Dirty Industry: http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/28274-industrial-revolution-mod-i-d-addon-set-1/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/28274-industrial-revolution-mod-i-d-addon-set-1/)
          Addon #1 Manufacturing: http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/28283-industrial-revolution-mod-i-m-addon-set1/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/28283-industrial-revolution-mod-i-m-addon-set1/)
       
There are some more ploppable lots which you can also download from T wrecks, just click on his profile pic and it will take you to a list of his works.

Maxis Seasonal and Residential Relots: http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/28771-maxis-seasonal-residential-commercial-lots/ (http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/28771-maxis-seasonal-residential-commercial-lots/)

                                                                                 ^^^ Need those darn dependencies  :'( ^^^

I'd consider these (mainly the first part) basic mods that you should use, IMO. The IRM however will only work in pre existing cities if you either bulldoze all your industry there and start from scratch, or modify the dat files for those lots. So you are better off starting a new region witht he IRM. Though for the mo under it, you don't need to start a new city to use in properly ;)

There are some other mods I use, but they are purely cosmetic. Such as the Columbus Terrain Mod and the Italia Tree Controller. But you don't need those unless you want to make evewyting wook vewy pwtty  :D.

You should explore the LEX and STEX, and possible some ether SC4 websites and fine a mix of things, that would fit your own style of playing  :thumbsup:.


I ll try that mods if i can:D
There are too much and they are complicated. This prevents me to see each of them.

Thanks again btw:)))