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SimCity 4 General Discussion and Tutorials => SimCity 4 General Discussion => General Custom Content Discussion => Topic started by: evarburg on January 31, 2018, 07:03:12 PM

Title: Unwanted weirdo retaining walls in park menu
Post by: evarburg on January 31, 2018, 07:03:12 PM
In this, our glorious era of Moar Stuff, we are trying, my companion mayor and I, to clean up our (un)damned menus. There are a few annoying items in the park menus that I can't trace back to their source and thus cannot eliminate.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/BOGUES/i-pCTSDtb/0/3ab2d055/S/7bogu%C3%A9s%20in%20game%20-%20copie-S.jpg)

They are named "retaining walls" in the L.E.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/BOGUES/i-NMnM3QD/0/8fbc2458/S/1retaining%20wall%20bogu%C3%A9s%20-%20copie-S.jpg)

And they are quite thoroughly screwed up except two :

(https://photos.smugmug.com/BOGUES/i-RtQGzV8/0/19a21a77/M/2retainingwall%20brownbrick2%20-%20copie-M.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/BOGUES/i-WrBZJRz/0/6c90f209/M/3retainingwall%20brownbrick1%20-%20copie-M.jpg)



Those two do show up when plopped in game (one 1x1 tile)

The others plop nothing -- more accurately, they plop an invisible 1x1, since I must bulldoze it -- and for a good reason, since they all look like this in the L.E. : 

(https://photos.smugmug.com/BOGUES/i-QtsDsmw/0/a685bb9e/M/6bogu%C3%A9s%206%20-%20copie-M.jpg)

I naively tried to give them a corresponding texture, but it's not that they don't have a texture -- I think they have one, but it just ins't in anything I've got. Although I MUST have something since they show in the L.E., right ?

So I put this here, in the hope that someone will recognize either the textures themselves or their ID, and tell me what they might be so I can look for the source and  zap them out...
Title: Re: Unwanted weirdo retaining walls in park menu
Post by: matias93 on February 01, 2018, 04:49:25 AM
They are this ones
https://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/31346-various-lot-foundations-and-retaining-walls/
And most surely you are lacking dependencies for a few of them. Check on the original file :)
Title: Re: Unwanted weirdo retaining walls in park menu
Post by: evarburg on February 01, 2018, 07:19:03 AM
Yes, it's absolutely those, thank you !!!

But now my mind is blown, because I DLed the original, looked at the content, saw that there is a TestLot.dat whose lots "show up at the end of the park menu", yes ! "you can delete that file", yeeees ! and.... a search in my plugins folder show no such lots, or either of the two other dats.?????

()what() ()what() ()what() ()what() ()what() ()what() ()what() ()what() ()what() ()what() ()what() ()what()

EDIT : they are a dependency -- the readme doesn't say of what bu I could infer that it is for MAS71 JPN walls. Which are not currently in my Work Plugins. Or my Game Plugins for that matter. Hence, I guess, The Bug. But that doesn't explain why, the files not being in my folder they still show up both in the L.E. and in-game. The only MAS71 stuff I have is Mas71PropPack Vol03.

()what() ()what() ()what() again.

Anyhoo. I've contacted the creator to ask for help in getting rid of the stuff. Wish me luck.

And a big THANK YOU to you, Matias93 -- once again !
Title: Re: Unwanted weirdo retaining walls in park menu
Post by: art128 on February 01, 2018, 08:53:33 AM
You can have lot files inside the .dat files.

I've found it to be often the case when i was myself cleaning every plugin to only keep what i used. I went inside dat files and deleted all i would not use. Sometime going from a 20mb .dat to a 1mb file.
Title: Re: Unwanted weirdo retaining walls in park menu
Post by: vortext on February 01, 2018, 09:31:28 AM
Took a quick peek inside the files matias93 linked and none of the icons, nor descriptions match those shown in the picture. That'd go a long way explaining why the lots still are ingame as you were looking for the wrong thing. Guess it's back to square one.  &mmm
Title: Re: Unwanted weirdo retaining walls in park menu
Post by: evarburg on February 01, 2018, 10:07:07 AM
Lots in dats.

Gh.

guess I have still a long way to go.

Thank you, sirs, much obliged !

EDIT : er, Vortext, when I put the original in my plugins and check my park menu, some of the icons DO correspond. When I open the .dats, none of the names or PNG correspond, indeed (except perhaps one. Or two.)

Quietly going bonkers, here. Especially as I don't seem to be able to find those damned files in my plugins Nothing correspond to the original names. I'm copy-pasting the names and the search comes up empty each time.

I'm afraid I'm gonna have to go hallfsies on that plugins folder...
Title: Re: Unwanted weirdo retaining walls in park menu
Post by: evarburg on February 01, 2018, 11:28:16 AM
 (doing halfsies on an almost empty plugins is not so bad...) Well, it had nothing to do with those Retaining walls. It was Villavivencio Textures - a dep for something I don't recall but that I will find, hopefully. I ceremoniously zapped it, and my companion just sprang up from the chair beside me (he was doing moral support during the halfsies process) growling : "I'm gonna kill it immediately."

Aaaah. There is something deeply satisfying in this. Thanks for your support, guys.