I'm sorry if this in the wrong area but Vista has me on my last nerves.
When I using Win 98 it wasn't any problems removing the BSC Fields Dat &Popfile Dat but Vista has hidden these files.
So where would Vista hide these files because I already looked in the Apps folders?.Thanx
I feel your pain, my pirate friend. I'm sure someone has an answer to this.
David
Dedgren you have no idea how much pain vista has caused me.I am now stuck because of 2 files that got sucked away by vista. :thumbsdown:
Hello is anyone home?.
Am I to understand that with no reply to my problem that I skip BSC/CSX downloads altogether?.I understand your all busy but I would like to play this game and I would appreciate a little help.Thanx
Bluebeard...
The people that make this content and provide support for it have busy real lives. If it had been two days without a reply I admit I'd bump the topic. But 12 hours? Not to mention that the non-North Americans (BarbyW, Andreas, Colyn, just to name a few) are on a completely different time zone from us.
I really, really like SC4D because everyone is friendly, patient, and courteous. Please don't steer this great forums in the wrong direction.
My apologies if I offended anyone, but I had to get it off my chest, and I suppose I should say that last thought is just a general opinion.
Cheers,
Kevin
PS-I happen to agree, Vista does bring upon some very, very strange things. It probably thought those files were malware or something of the sort. Go figure.
The biggest issue is not how fast someone here gets back to you but if very many here USE Vista. I have a copy but do not use it for development, coding, or gaming. I would rather have a paper cut on my bunghole than to use Vista for anything other than annoying my family and myself (stupid unwanted security features). Your problem is not so much a SC4D problem as a question of where in Vista you can find how to change file properties and locate what Vista may consider system files etc.
1. Try a full search, either specific file names or use wildcards *
2. Search the web for Vista eating files of other ppl even though its not related to SC4. Sometimes this will give HUGE clues
3. Be patient, you arent the only one who hates Microsloth Blista
I am more curious as to why you want to remove two innocent itty-bitty files that do nothing unless you have Regional Tracking enabled. The are inoffensive files that can help give you information if you want it but will not interfere with game play at all.
As for Vista, when I bought a laptop this year I searched long and hard to find one WITHOUT it. I am not contributing to the Gates empire for a flawed program. When it reaches SP2 I might consider it but until then I am more than happy with XP.
barby,
sometimes those files can get corrupted and need reinstalling, and also if you accidently track a city you need to delete and start over.
Ok, Diggis, point taken. The easiest way to find them would be a Search of the computer then - if Vista allows that. ;D
Sorry folks for the short fuse but Vista is a real pain in the backside.Diggis is right why I need to find the files and Goddess I tried the search but zip.
If I can find the time between hooking up my new PS2 then I'll try a re-install.Worse case it don't work and I use SC as a drink coaster.
I didn't mean to start any problems it's Vista is killing me.Thanx
so tracking works but you can't see the files?
well they will definatly be in the apps folder then, if not the mod wouldn't work... maybe Vista is hiding the files as it thinks they are system files? I'd try looking for an option "show hidden files" or equivalent (at least that's what it's called under XP... I don't have a clue if it even exists under Vista...) and (un)tick it.
BB - I don't think many people have Vista which is why you've had to wait.
Under The Windows/Start menu go to the right-most column
Search -> Click 'Advanced Search' dropdown box.
Make sure 'Show All' is highlighted
Make sure the location is specified from the drop-down box (I think default is 'indexed')
Make sure "include non-indexed, hidden and system files' is checked.
Then type those file names in the top most right hand corner to search
The Main Tracking file dat. is there but not the 2 you need to start over as suggested in the read me.So I take nobody has jumped over the deep end to Vista yet?.
Maybe I'm installing it wrong even though I had no problems with my 98.I had no choice in getting Vista it was this or nothing seeing how the old system fryed out.
I appreciate all the help but appears Vista isn't very BSC friendly.Goodluck with the CAM and all your future projects.
It was fun while it lasted.Oh I ain't leaving SC4D only SC thanx to Vista.
I think there may be a problem with the Regional Tracking Mod under Vista. I hadn't noticed it was not working until I saw this thread, but I am not seeing the popup message when entering cities with RTM installed. I haven't seen problems with any other mods running SC4 under Vista for the past several months.
To test, I reinstalled RTM but still no popup messages when entering cities. I also ran SC4 as administrator since most incompatibilities under Vista are caused by new security restrictions, but I still did not see the popup message.
I do have the BSC_RegionalCounter.dat file in the root of my plugins folder. I also have the BSCfields.dat and popfiles.dat files in the C:\Program Files\Maxis\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps folder. I would have to double check this, but I believe that Vista restricts the ability of programs to write into the Program Files area. The only thing that puzzle me is that this still doesn't work with administrator rights, but I am granting the rights to the SC4 program rather than the code that operates the mod. I don't know of any way to escalate a helper program like that.
EDIT: I removed these files from the Apps folder and played SC4, and these files were not recreated. It looks like the installer can place the files, but they cannot be read or written to by the mod itself.
If there is any interest in additional troubleshooting for Vista problems, I would be happy to help.
BB - To find these files, go to Computer from your start menu. Go into the drive where SC4 is installed (usually the C: drive), then Program Files > Maxis > Sim City 4 Deluxe > Apps. The BSCfields.dat and popfiles.dat files are not hidden, but I don't think deleting them will help if you are having the same problem I am. There is something not quite right about Vista search, so it doesn't always find files that are really there. Let me know if you need any other help taming Vista.
Thanx Scott:
But I look in the Apps and zip.Also I ain't running Deluxe like yourself not sure if that makes a difference.I appreciate the thought but I'm still dead in the water.
The goods news is my PS2 came today and this weekend I'm going game shopping at Walmarts.Then I can finally stop screwing around with SC for good. :thumbsup:
Edit:Well after un-installing the game and re-installing the game still zip.So my question is can the BSC/CSX rewards and other lots function without the Tracker?.Thanx
and the answer is.....
YES :) The RTM is only for additional information to the mayor, not the game ;)
Quote from: Pheonix Rising on July 25, 2007, 12:16:25 AM
and the answer is.....
YES :) The RTM is only for additional information to the mayor, not the game ;)
err... that's generally true... a couple of mods use information stored by the RTM though, such as the money transfer mod I created
a couple of rewards also use data created by the RTM, but only a few.
Awesome and thanx.
Maybe someday when RL will allow it you take a look at Vista and this Mod.It was a great little Mod and I'll miss it but at least for now I can play without it.Thanx again. :thumbsup:
Hey am I the only nut using Vista?.
It seems no matter what site nobody has a straight foward answer to Vista and the game. $%Grinno$%
No, I have been running SC4 under Vista for several months now. I honestly haven't had many problems with SC4, but Vista is still a work in progress.
Leave it to Microsoft to sell us "Work in Progress" material. :thumbsdown:
The part that drives me nuts besides my issues is the PC companies like Gateway and Dell jumped on Vista in a heart beat and flushed XP.
Yes they can install XP but at $$$.Microsoft is another way of saying The Mob.
there are more unhappy game playing vista users than happy game playing vista users lol. Even after they get around to SP1 or SP2 I wont be playing games on vista until i have to, and even then it might be better to get my games running under linux anyway, probably more stable then vista ever will be at any rate.
Sorry to wake this thread but has any Vista users tried the BSC Tracker?.Thanx :)
Quote from: Bluebeard on August 02, 2007, 06:43:47 AM
Sorry to wake this thread but has any Vista users tried the BSC Tracker?.Thanx :)
Yes I have been running Vista for about 10 months now and i like it.
I have run the BSC Tracker for about 6 weeks with no problems. I did a full reinstall of Vista about 2 weeks ago, Reinstalled SC4 Installed the tracker everything was fine until i installed C.A.M. then lost the tracker. I am just about to reinstall SC4 without C.A.M. and see how long the tracker runs for.
I'll let you Know what happens in a couple of days
that's is a strange observation ??? CAM and region tracker shouldn't interfere. I'll have to look further into that...
I have both working fine in my copy. &mmm
Quote from: daeley on March 19, 2008, 12:49:40 AM
that's is a strange observation ??? CAM and region tracker shouldn't interfere. I'll have to look further into that...
daeley could you hold off investigating this for the moment if you see my log below i believe i may have in my hast have clicked on the wrong button.
As i was reinstalling i was thinking about what i had been doing.
19/03/08 08:00 Installed SC4.
19/03/08 08:08 Installed Data Tracker.
19/03/08 08:15 Tracker working.
In retrospect I believe I canceled the Tracker so it stopped tracking the cities i was building.
If i am right you can call me anything you want it will not be as bad as what i will call myself.
I too have lost the Regional Tracker mod since I went to Vista. Is there any definitive answer as to how I get it to work? It seems to have affected my city negatively as well. The city I had on xp was working great with the CAM and Regional tracker running. Now the demand has died everywhere and I havent built a single thing just started up the city.
Quote from: daeley on March 19, 2008, 12:49:40 AM
that's is a strange observation ??? CAM and region tracker shouldn't interfere. I'll have to look further into that...
hello to everyone.
please, any news? I have a problem with this beautiful plugin. CAM and region tracker didn't interfere at first, but then I had to start a new region (which I D/Led from the LEX) due to eternal commuters, and regional tracking mod didn't work anymore! it seems like the BSC_regionalcounter.dat file was deleted from the directory where it was installed.
I'm pretty sure I didn't remove it accidentally, because I located it in the program\maxis\sc4\plugins directory, along with the CAM, olympic terrain MOD and a few other little file (with no DATpacker), while all the other plugins are installed in the \documents\simcity 4\plugins directory (with DATpacker). after the CAM, the only thing I put in the same sub-folder was the NAM-april2008, a bunch of bridges and the SAMv3.
anyway, I procedeed in erasing the plugin (the 2 remaining file in the \app folder) and re-installing it, but now it doesn't work anymore!! the files are still in their place, but while I'm playing, no trace of the plugin...
where am I wrong? I'd try a little bit experimenting (try the plugin without CAM, or on another region) but I'm in a short of time in this period, I'll be very glad if someone could help me using only this poor description...ance
many thanks in advance!!!!
I have all those working quite happily together so find it difficult to pinpoint what may be wrong.
Quote from: BarbyW on May 07, 2008, 10:39:12 AM
I have all those working quite happily together so find it difficult to pinpoint what may be wrong.
thank you anyway, barbyw. I appreciate so much your work here
Quote from: slumberingsausage on March 19, 2008, 12:47:18 AM
Yes I have been running Vista for about 10 months now and i like it.
I have run the BSC Tracker for about 6 weeks with no problems. I did a full reinstall of Vista about 2 weeks ago, Reinstalled SC4 Installed the tracker everything was fine until i installed C.A.M. then lost the tracker. I am just about to reinstall SC4 without C.A.M. and see how long the tracker runs for.
I'll let you Know what happens in a couple of days
I believe the Tracker problem is due to one of simGoobers files not the C.A.M. as i first suspected. Will let you know more when i have found the problem file(s).
Sorry for the delay I haven't had much chance to investigate the problem due to work and family commitments and with nearly 2gigs of plugins it has been a slow monotonous process.
Quote from: slumberingsausage on May 08, 2008, 02:53:32 PM
I believe the Tracker problem is due to one of simGoobers files not the C.A.M. as i first suspected. Will let you know more when i have found the problem file(s).
Sorry for the delay I haven't had much chance to investigate the problem due to work and family commitments and with nearly 2gigs of plugins it has been a slow monotonous process.
thank you very much!! I've not played my region too, since I posted this issue. I'm surfin the web with another PC, so the only chance to find which of simgoober's lot is the "suspect" is to look at my D/L history. (19 pages!!)
for sure I installed the new SG water lots, farms, industrials, Hi-rise offices and hotels repacked along with the CAM, but the tracker was working until I started a new region. mmmm..
it must be something I D/Led around 20th of april...
here they are:
SG bbsc news studio
SG cattle farm
and then a couple of those big industrial models and lot from SG needed in the "CAM industrial BSC" from BarbyW -like the fukitol herbal company, but I cannot remember exactly which one because the link was to simtropolis and, alas, noD/L history there. I remember they were from SG 'coz at first I didn't D/Led them, thinking "if it's from SG, then I got them", until the brown boxes appeared...
ok. thank you again for your interest, I'll give a try as soon as I can. let's find where's the conflict!!
Quote from: slumberingsausage on May 08, 2008, 02:53:32 PM
I believe the Tracker problem is due to one of simGoobers files not the C.A.M. as i first suspected. Will let you know more when i have found the problem file(s).
Sorry for the delay I haven't had much chance to investigate the problem due to work and family commitments and with nearly 2gigs of plugins it has been a slow monotonous process.
Hmm, strange, I have most of SG's stuff, the CAM and the tracker. And everything works OK.
ok maybe I've found the conflict.
the BSC regional tracking Mod seems to work correctly as long as I don't put the SG hotels1 (both models and lots packs) in the plugin folder.
I've just read the comments at the D/L page and someone else had noticed the conflict previously. one said that after removing the reward hotel, -Ritz Carlton-, the conflict was solved, but I don't know if it's true nor how to do that.
hope I don't have to remove the hotels, they're really wonderful.....
Quote from: ZonZaucker on May 09, 2008, 06:28:59 AM
ok maybe I've found the conflict.
the BSC regional tracking Mod seems to work correctly as long as I don't put the SG hotels1 (both models and lots packs) in the plugin folder.
I've just read the comments at the D/L page and someone else had noticed the conflict previously. one said that after removing the reward hotel, -Ritz Carlton-, the conflict was solved, but I don't know if it's true nor how to do that.
hope I don't have to remove the hotels, they're really wonderful.....
I Can confirm that it is the SG Hotels1.DAT (both models and lots packs) that cause the conflict.
I have done some testing on this and for some reason it is the Ritz Carlton lot that is causing the problem. I have removed this from the dat and updated the file on the LEX. I will get Daeley to look at the Ritz Carlton lot to see if he can see where the conflict lies but until then that lot will be unavailable.
Quote from: BarbyW on May 10, 2008, 04:32:11 AM
I have done some testing on this and for some reason it is the Ritz Carlton lot that is causing the problem. I have removed this from the dat and updated the file on the LEX. I will get Daeley to look at the Ritz Carlton lot to see if he can see where the conflict lies but until then that lot will be unavailable.
Thanks BarbW will give it a try.
It was easier to solve than I had thought so I have uploaded a revised version of the Ritz Carlton that does not conflict. I have done it as a separate upload as I had already removed it from the updated Hotels1 lots file. I have tested it and it no longer conflicts.
Quote from: BarbyW on May 10, 2008, 06:36:52 AM
It was easier to solve than I had thought so I have uploaded a revised version of the Ritz Carlton that does not conflict. I have done it as a separate upload as I had already removed it from the updated Hotels1 lots file. I have tested it and it no longer conflicts.
&apls corto y derecho!! I'm very impressed from the feedback of this forum.
thank you very much, BarbyW!! your fame is well deserved.
Quote from: BarbyW on May 10, 2008, 06:36:52 AM
It was easier to solve than I had thought so I have uploaded a revised version of the Ritz Carlton that does not conflict. I have done it as a separate upload as I had already removed it from the updated Hotels1 lots file. I have tested it and it no longer conflicts.
Just tested it and had no conflicts.
Ok, I also have a question about the RTM.
I have the 'BSC_RegionalCounter' in a subfolder in my Plugins folder and I have both 'popfile.dat' and 'BSCfields.dat' in my Apps folder, but still the mod doesn't work. I don't have Vista, just XP.
Do I need anything to get this to work?
Thanks in advance!
No one? Come on guys! ()what()
I think you need to take the 'BSC_RegionalCounter' out of a sub folder and place in the root of plugins. Try that first.
No, didn't work!
I even tried it without the Newsticker Mod and in the My Document Plugin folder! Still doesn't work :(
I'll try and get Daeley to come and look as he may know what is wrong.
That would be great, thanks!
BTW, I am using the original .exe
Any news?? ()sad()