I would love to play a mountain map with fiords like in Norway.
I have an eye on an area around Bergen:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg266.imageshack.us%2Fimg266%2F3768%2Fbergen1thpu5.jpg&hash=2762f3b31b3abbb2ad1ee37e8ef659dc944c5382) (http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6670/bergenog4.jpg)
Click for enlargement (1452 kb).
Found this place where you can get contour on top of google maps: earthtools.org (http://www.earthtools.org/)
Sounds like a fatastic idea! I've always wanted some good Norwegian maps.
If you make this, i'll definately be playing it as well. :P
Well I was hoping for that there were someone that could help me do this map, a bigger or smaller part of it.
At least around the city itself and the opening where all the ships leave to see.
Great idea, I am very interested in such map too ;D
Nice idea you got, unfortunately i can't be much of any help though. i have only been in Bergen twice, and i didn't even see half of it. ()sad()
the problem of that kind of map the area is huge for SC4, so I can't make all that area at least reducing the scale... let me see if I can do that ;)
Maybe start the map north of the city of Bergen and then south, preferably with the opening from the fiord out into North see. And for the sea in land as far as you can get.
yeah but still huge ::) so the best option is reducing the scale, youll love the results ;)
Thanks, looking forward to see the result.
hold on... ()sad()
I was looking if I can get the data but is not available &mmm
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so my last option is making a ficctional map for you looking like that area with mountains and stuff ;D or if you know where i can get DEM for Norway
waiting for your answer...
Hmmm, I have no idea where to find DEM, have an slide idea what it is but that is it.
well could I make another request instead ?
It looks like you have data for Stockholm! Well its hard to tell from that map.
or maybe you could move down to the area around Stavanger.
How big a map can you make ?
btw: What does DEM stands for ? and where can one read a little more about it ?
well i can make a map about 10x10 big city tiles (suggestion) but no more than 30x30...
About Stockholm ive made a fictional map basing of that city "Stockhomes" from another request
http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?p=results
this if you are interested, but i could do the real one if you want...
A big city tile is around 4x4 km right ?
(I did quite some editing in my previous post)
Right its 4km, you can learn more about DEM here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_elevation_model
this useful for making RL maps for SC4 by getting the data some more programs are required
btw im not familiar with Norway could you show me where Stavanger is, thanks! ;)
i found it thanks
this is the area i have for South Norway including Stavanger
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just tell me exactly the are you want, remember i can make it by defferent scales or if you want a 1:1 you have to select a small area
Found a site with some contour data for google maps. It went to latitude 60 N.
Can you turn the area you "render" ?
Great if they have DEMs avalaible for download i could take those but im not familiar with that... i have to take a look
you mean to turn that render to SC4 or what? if you want that area exactly, i could make that in a good size but not scaled because the area its enormous
I mean does the area have to be straight north, could you pick the area on an angle. (Like on the google map in the first post)
oh of course, but thats "default" for the render i got from the DATA, but i can turn it later when i get it to photoshop
you looking something like this, hehe ;D
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg295.imageshack.us%2Fimg295%2F5392%2Farea2ws1.jpg&hash=9163b3665fbea760876b1ab8e2f618de86ddb7f3)
How far north can you go ?
To much water in that area.
thats all far north i can get... sorry
Well its not going to be the map I hoped, but still playable. What about this area:
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Maybe downscaled a bit. Don't mind a big map, so please not a lot.
Could I do it myself with PhotoShop ?
I will make that area ;) that is a preview so it doesnt work if you modify it in photoshop.. will make you that better
its ready, i dunno if the terrain is correct but looks too sharp.. :-[ i see that Norway its a beautiful place...
ive added some deep to water for better realism ;)
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg295.imageshack.us%2Fimg295%2F8339%2Fnorwviewit6.jpg&hash=ccf6e6c9afc74e0d521f1ca55512a5e180115572)
download here....
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/2/20/800718/norw.SC4M
take care :)
Probably it is right:
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Thank you.
Have been thinking of it.
HabLeUrG: Are you still ready to do a fictional map based on the area around Bergen ?
I'm interested in this idea - I like mountains, I like Norway (hope I will go there in future) and I'm working on the mountainous region now.
My 2 cents (maybe it will be a bit useful): it is completely impossible to make really good map, realistic and playable in the same time, looking only at satelite views and using SC4 Terraformer. Choose the map, put it into the game with a good terrain mod installed and see how it looks. After making modifications (in SC4 Terraformer, but also using ingame tools) check again how it looks. And look at photos of this region, not only on satelite views. The "SC4 realism" is not only a question of simply changing the scale - it is especially important when you are working with mountains ;)
I will help with pleasure, if I will be able to :D
Quote from: vester on August 16, 2007, 09:37:39 AM
Have been thinking of it.
HabLeUrG: Are you still ready to do a fictional map based on the area around Bergen ?
Probably I could take that but making fictionals maps takes me some time to finish... if theres a DATA (.bil) of the are thet could be better...
Quote from: HabLeUrG on August 16, 2007, 11:38:47 AMif theres a DATA (.bil) of the are thet could be better...
Please explain, not sure what you are talking about.
i mean if theres a digital elevation model data of Bergen, where i can get it? if theres isnt any so i will make it fictional but that takes some more time for to complete :-\
Sorry have no idea where to find data for Norway, but will have a look around.
Hi H
I didn't find any data :P
Hoping that you would not mind a fictional version of the area.
of course no problem ;) (sorry to replay later, i didn't see this before ;D)
But please give me some time ;) thanks!
edit: if you want a fictional map, please give me an idea how you want it, by just making a draft picture in paint of the map and Ill put my magic on it :)
Oh my.. lol A map just east of my local area.... :D
This isn't exactly Bergen ya know $%Grinno$%
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Quote from: Glenni on January 15, 2008, 11:48:44 AM
Oh my.. lol A map just east of my local area.... :D
This isn't exactly Bergen ya know $%Grinno$%
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I know, but the problem was that vester was looking a map "near close" to Bergen, but there wasn't any data available of the area, that area was the closest one. So now theres an option for to do the map by hand.
Srry for double post, but heres the are of bergen in ge
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The problem is the elevation, im not sure how high is the "highest" point neither i dont know about the elevation of the area. Thats the problem of doing a hand map and an area that you dont know...
You could have a look at it in Google Earth:
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I have found a page, where you can lay out a route for biking, running ect, called Bike Route Toaster. (http://www.bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx)
EDIT: Looks like there are no height data for the area there as well :P :(
Could you take an area a little south:
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i wonder from where GE gets the digital elevations ;D i'll try my best on this map, please be patient
the altitude its around 0-400 meters...
Maybe from TerraMetrics ?
TerraMetrics?? I don't know I'll check about that... ;) thanks!