this is just idea.
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overview.
this is sunken rail station come with bus stop.
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show what is what.
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show place area. it's 1x9 or less but visible building can see like this picture.
does anyone please make this... :)
i've no skill to create lot, bat & 3d.
thanks in advance.
... and the most others don't have that experience too. That's the problem. The BAT normaly flattens all the negative Y-vertexes and replaces the underground part with a ground rectangle textured by a fake-3D image that looks like if there is an underground. This texture is wrapped over the traffic and the trains would disappear. There is a way to avoid that but only a few people know how...
Could it not be possible to make a true 3D model for the station?(custom LOD?)
Explain a modeller how to render true 3D or custom lods. They have no idea.
It must be the same procedure like
- on the NDEX ramp
- the avenue underpasses
- the PEG subterranean mall
- the sunken GLR by NOB
A few people know what to do, including NOB and Jeronij. We should invite them to discuss on this thread. It is no problem if someone starts an unrendered GMAX file. The only problem is a special export.
If the station should handle the underground railway of the NAM, the rail track must have a depth of -10, then it matches. The tunnel entrances must be part of the model enhanced by an overwrapping tube that continues a few meters outside the LOT.
I believe Blahdy also knows how this elusive art works.
Cheers,
Kevin
make it designed for a 15meter trench. that is the most common depth. works best with on slope pieces
This is, indeed, a very interesting idea. I hope there's someone out there that can implement it!
There was one made by NOB I think.... not overtrack though.
Just designed to hang over the edge. Still looked good though.
Quote from: flame1396 on September 10, 2007, 08:24:45 PM
There was one made by NOB I think.... not overtrack though.
Just designed to hang over the edge. Still looked good though.
yes! that's it.
because the "really" working station is on rail 2(in the picture)
I think Swamper77 can be of some help with the custom lods.
flame1396: We are talking about a sunken station, not an elevated. The sunken rail uses -10, the elevated ones +15.5 as height.
case study
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i have no idea in technical but i think this bat may possible to make it ;)
if you split it like..[leftstation] [middle rail with building on top] [right station].is this possible?
Such a working underground lot can be done. Only special LODs ( as mentioned) are necessary. I can make the LODs myself if someone has the model ( as I am doing with some BigDig Project ramps ;) ).
The biggest issues about this idea are two:
1st : This sort of models do create graphic glitches in the game sometimes. The terrain texture can be seen covering the underground part of the model. This can be solved changing the view to any other that normal and going back to normal view.
2nd. The lenght of the lot. 9 tiles which do not allow residential development near it is a bit too much.... the model should be as short as possible. A 1x width seems to be ok, but perhaps there will not be much space for the building. 2x would also be good size, and would allow double railroads sections.
Just my two cents ;) . I hope this helps this interesting project to move on :thumbsup:
big thanks jeronij ;D
but i have no skill to do this ()what() :bomb: &cry2
Quote from: jeronij on September 11, 2007, 06:27:25 AM
1st : This sort of models do create graphic glitches in the game sometimes. The terrain texture can be seen covering the underground part of the model. This can be solved changing the view to any other that normal and going back to normal view.
I've noticed something about this: The new and improved marrast underpass lots dont suffer from this, I've never seen them affected by this bug...
I had been thinking of doing a station which connected to a NAM bridge, where the sims would get of the tracks onto the road and the buses.
You mean something like this?
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Jeronij, your help with this (LODs) is needed ;)
Quote from: Bengt on September 11, 2007, 11:47:01 AM
You mean something like this?
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Jeronij, your help with this (LODs) is needed ;)
YEAH!! x2
I'll hijack this theard.
Okay, the sunken railstation is designed for 15 metres deep "canyon" and lot size will be 3x6, but station is only only 3x5.
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It might look like a indoor arena but IMO flat roof would have been boring. Station's textures aren't final but "underground's" textures are. There will be some stuff in the plaza, like signs, benches and stuff and somekind of kiosk inside the hall and timetables. Also thinking some support structures to side :-\
That looks great so far, Bengt! I like the "indoor arena" look! Can't wait to see more progress!
Bengt,
Are you going to use the same texture for the tracks that the recently released rail station does?
Cheers,
Kevin
Great work, thats a BAT I was deeply missing. Another big step towards a more realistic Railway-System.
Hopefully, once the small version proffed to work, you can try some bigger stations, like e.g. the Central Station in Hamburg, Germany: http://www.larsbrueggemann.de/hoch_fotos/hamburg-hauptbahnhof.jpg
Quote from: Asimov on September 11, 2007, 11:34:00 PM
Great work, thats a BAT I was deeply missing. Another big step towards a more realistic Railway-System.
Hopefully, once the small version proffed to work, you can try some bigger stations, like e.g. the Central Station in Hamburg, Germany: http://www.larsbrueggemann.de/hoch_fotos/hamburg-hauptbahnhof.jpg
yes, i agree. the bigger one is good.
The Central Station in Hamburg looks awesome. The main station down town Toronto (Union Station) is the same way. The subway also goes under the rail which is under the building. Incredible architecture, indeed. I really hope someone can make this a reality. This type of station would fit much better in a very busy Down town.
Robin %BUd% %BUd%
Quote from: rooker1 on September 12, 2007, 07:41:20 AM
The Central Station in Hamburg looks awesome. The main station down town Toronto (Union Station) is the same way. The subway also goes under the rail which is under the building. Incredible architecture, indeed. I really hope someone can make this a reality. This type of station would fit much better in a very busy Down town.
Robin %BUd% %BUd%
The Yonge-University-Spadina Subway Line (And to think, they might adding another word to that!) runs infront of the building, under Front Street. What runs under the rails is actually the 509 Harbourfront and 510 Spadina streetcar lines, while the passenger car lines are at grade in the back of the building under a very ugly iron shed. Although plans are in place to replace it a 80million dollar glass atrium type thing. And as for that bat - yep looks extremely nice! I wish it was a little deeper to match with the 15m hole digger piece but oh well.
Kitsune: It is for 15 metres sunken pieces as you guys first requested.
For those who are wanting Hamburg's Central Station: keep dreaming. I've no interest to make such a thing.
Quote from: Bengt on September 12, 2007, 10:22:00 AM
Kitsune: It is for 15 metres sunken pieces as you guys first requested.
For those who are wanting Hamburg's Central Station: keep dreaming. I've no interest to make such a thing.
15 meters? ok great, I thought I read somewhere that it was 10meters.
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Progress made. Tracks will be made using textures, so "don't worry". More about this in my BAT theard, follow the siggie link.
It's first time to write a post here SC4D. &blush
I made these sunken stations last year but I'm not sure it is relative to this thread.
Quote from: realzooper on October 06, 2007, 11:43:05 PM
It's first time to write a post here SC4D. &blush
I made these sunken stations last year but I'm not sure it is relative to this thread.
Welcome to SC4D ¡¡¡
These are nice sunken stations, specially the last one :thumbsup:
What we want in this thread is to be able to see the trains running all the way under the station ...... not easy but feasible ;)
Excellent work &apls Much better what I made (mostly because my motivation with rail station was and is low)
Thanks jeronij & Bengt.
I think it's working to pass through the station, but not complete.
Though I used costom LOD which was very tight, I couldn't place props in the LotEditor.
The last picture shows how trains are partly buried in the building.
Anyway, I really hope to see Bengt's finished station, because I like the arena style buildings too. :)
Hi zooper~ I'm ssin in sc4Lab, you know..^^
I'm really happy to you came here(?)...
Quote from: realzooper on October 06, 2007, 11:43:05 PM
It's first time to write a post here SC4D. &blush
I made these sunken stations last year but I'm not sure it is relative to this thread.
YES!
i love it! :thumbsup:
i'm sure it is relative to this thread ;D :thumbsup:
Incredible work, realzooper! And welcome to SC4D, too!
Those stations are really excellent :thumbsup: I'll finish my own station after I finish my current building.
Realzooper, these stations are excellent! :thumbsup:
Maybe you would like to think about releasing them? :)
And Bengt (sorry, I've just read all this thread ::)) - Your project looks very interesting too! &apls
Bengt dont give up on your station it is wonderful and i love to see it come full circle.... Realzooper that is also a nice looking station.... Either way great to see such progress on this....
yes bengt's station is really grest :thumbsup:
Thanks everyone for good comments. &blush
However, that stations are still needed lots of work to complete. more details and lights etc...
But I'll try to release the files after finding an appropriate place to upload, while Bengt is making
a great one. :thumbsup:
Thanks for support, I'm not saying that mine is crap but I actually don't like personally :D It will be finished, follow my theard when I finish Petersgatan-building.
Quote from: realzooper on October 07, 2007, 04:13:03 AM
Thanks jeronij & Bengt.
I think it's working to pass through the station, but not complete.
Though I used costom LOD which was very tight, I couldn't place props in the LotEditor.
The last picture shows how trains are partly buried in the building.
This is probably the best looking one I've seen. Very nice work. Hope to see it available for download somewhere.
QuoteAnyway, I really hope to see Bengt's finished station, because I like the arena style buildings too. :)
Yes I like the "arena look" too.. Hopefully we'll see both of these nice looking stations soon.. :)
Well, why not post "final update"
WHAT IS NEEDED:
Roofjunk or something like that
Railtexture. It needs to go like mine own rails. (white arrow)
WHAT COULD BE ADDED:
Better ground texture for street level
Something to street level (yellow area)
Lights to lampposts (red arrow)
WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE:
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At night
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Just showing off.
It writes it for the first time.
I am tadasu（糺）.
I made a sunkun station recentry, it's my second BAT.
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I learnt this thread today.
It is very wonderful. It looks forward to completion.
These sentences use the translation website.
I am not good at English. sorry.
Quote from: tadasu on November 23, 2007, 09:16:41 AM
It writes it for the first time.
I am tadasu（糺）.
Please tadasu san.. welcome!
QuoteI made a sunkun station recentry, it's my second BAT.
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Looks very nice.. a more modern version for sunken.. Most are older type.. nice work.. wish I had more pictures of it!!!
QuoteI learnt this thread today.
It is very wonderful. It looks forward to completion.
These sentences use the translation website.
I am not good at English. sorry.
We will work to understand your English if you work to understand ours!!! :)
You are doing fine!
Its a great station tadasu, very modern, fits very well with my cities. Great Job :thumbsup:
ps, my japanese is horrific $%Grinno$%
Quote from: tadasu on November 23, 2007, 09:16:41 AM
It writes it for the first time.
I am tadasu（糺）.
I made a sunkun station recentry, it's my second BAT.
I learnt this thread today.
It is very wonderful. It looks forward to completion.
These sentences use the translation website.
I am not good at English. sorry.
3 things
1. the translation wedsite worked very well, no problems understanding you. Hope it works as well in reverse and you can understand us too.
2. If that was your second bat then :o Wow, that is good. I look forward to seeing future work from you.
3. Could we get more pics of it.
SC4BOY san
Kitsune san
Diggis san
very thank you. :)
Started BAT since September of this year.
I show more pics you.
Because the time that becomes a mayor is a little, I do not have the so many
images either. :-[
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Do you have this uploaded somewhere? I would love to have this in my cities. &apls That nitelighting is increadible.
Theres a link right here. Japanese BAT Gallerey (???BAT????) see reply #212
It neat and easy to install. :)
WoW! What a fantastic job, Tadasu!!
It's really really beautiful, glasses, night lighting, everything...
and also Krio's work makes me expected a lot. very awesome night lighting.
But I feel sorry for delaying to attach my station here. I've just finished all exams of the school. ;D
Here, while you waiting for those great stations, just try to use my work.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcfs10.blog.daum.net%2Fimage%2F31%2Fblog%2F2007%2F12%2F04%2F22%2F12%2F475552411a48c%26amp%3Bfilename%3Dks05948_realzooper.jpg&hash=b58a327c7a5eb69374ee3041eacb083bfa77a2f0)
Click here (http://cfs7.blog.daum.net/upload_control/download.blog?fhandle=MElKYjlAZnM3LmJsb2cuZGF1bS5uZXQ6L0lNQUdFLzAvMC5yYXI=&filename=0.rar&filename=KSunken.rar) to download.
You need NOB's japanese wall textures(Ftexture.dat) to show the grey cement wall.
Or, if you want to change walls to fit for your city, simply change it in the LotEditor.
Specs are pretty normal, 6x4 size, 5500 capacity, 169 plop cost, etc.
I hope you enjoy it.
When I click the link, it says "you don't have permission to access..." :(
Please check my post below #49 I just re-checked and that link definitly works. :thumbsup:
I was talking about the link to realzooper's station. Thanks for trying though. :thumbsup:
Yeah I get that too. :'(
Sorry guys. I changed the link and I hope it's working well.
and I thank you for clicking the download. &blush
WOW!!
tadasu , your sunken rail station is really great i like it! :thumbsup:
and thanks to realzooper for sunken rail station download, i hope that's my new year gift. million thanks :thumbsup: :thumbsup: &apls
krio thanks to you too, please do your best.
my suggestion &idea
yellow area may be fence. for protect people jump or fall down to the rails.
maybe decorate some plant or sculpture.
happy new year you all ! :party:
Quote from: GoaSkin on September 11, 2007, 02:43:54 AM
flame1396: We are talking about a sunken station, not an elevated. The sunken rail uses -10, the elevated ones +15.5 as height.
Many people use the standard 15 meter deep hole digger in order to have NAM on-slope pieces go over the trench without sloping. So the station being 15 meters deep would get it the most users.
I use your station.. works fine.. I think I'd suggest a bit above 5000 capacity .. maybe about 12500.. I don't know if there are any standards for it, but this would be a major station just below the really GIANT lots (which seem to have capacity of about 40000 as I remember) for city stations..
My station is on hiatus, because I have no rail textures.
Whoa. I totally missed this page. Lots of promising things going on.
Quote from: realzooper on December 03, 2007, 05:38:10 AM
WoW! What a fantastic job, Tadasu!!
It's really really beautiful, glasses, night lighting, everything...
and also Krio's work makes me expected a lot. very awesome night lighting.
But I feel sorry for delaying to attach my station here. I've just finished all exams of the school. ;D
Here, while you waiting for those great stations, just try to use my work.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcfs10.blog.daum.net%2Fimage%2F31%2Fblog%2F2007%2F12%2F04%2F22%2F12%2F475552411a48c%26amp%3Bfilename%3Dks05948_realzooper.jpg&hash=b58a327c7a5eb69374ee3041eacb083bfa77a2f0)
Click here (http://cfs7.blog.daum.net/upload_control/download.blog?fhandle=MElKYjlAZnM3LmJsb2cuZGF1bS5uZXQ6L0lNQUdFLzAvMC5yYXI=&filename=0.rar&filename=KSunken.rar) to download.
You need NOB's japanese wall textures(Ftexture.dat) to show the grey cement wall.
Or, if you want to change walls to fit for your city, simply change it in the LotEditor.
Specs are pretty normal, 6x4 size, 5500 capacity, 169 plop cost, etc.
I hope you enjoy it.
Big up! Great work. What are those concrete walls there?
Those are (as mentioned in the stuff you quoted) the NOB walls. Here's a pic of it in use:
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Quote from: realzooper on December 03, 2007, 05:38:10 AM
WoW! What a fantastic job, Tadasu!!
It's really really beautiful, glasses, night lighting, everything...
and also Krio's work makes me expected a lot. very awesome night lighting.
But I feel sorry for delaying to attach my station here. I've just finished all exams of the school. ;D
Here, while you waiting for those great stations, just try to use my work.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcfs10.blog.daum.net%2Fimage%2F31%2Fblog%2F2007%2F12%2F04%2F22%2F12%2F475552411a48c%26amp%3Bfilename%3Dks05948_realzooper.jpg&hash=b58a327c7a5eb69374ee3041eacb083bfa77a2f0)
Click here (http://cfs7.blog.daum.net/upload_control/download.blog?fhandle=MElKYjlAZnM3LmJsb2cuZGF1bS5uZXQ6L0lNQUdFLzAvMC5yYXI=&filename=0.rar&filename=KSunken.rar) to download.
You need NOB's japanese wall textures(Ftexture.dat) to show the grey cement wall.
Or, if you want to change walls to fit for your city, simply change it in the LotEditor.
Specs are pretty normal, 6x4 size, 5500 capacity, 169 plop cost, etc.
I hope you enjoy it.
Where can you get NOB's japanese wall textures from
Quote from: tristan4eva on April 18, 2009, 08:20:01 AM
Where can you get NOB's japanese wall textures from
I really want to use this station, but I am asking the same question.
@Realzooper
안녕하세요. 처음 뵙겠습니다 ! Hello and nice to meet you. ;)
Yes, I like your sunken station, that's unique and good details as Tadas san's station. :thumbsup:
Thank you for sharing your nice one, and I'll use this soon. ;)
I'm looking forward to your next works as well. :)
훌륭한 작품을 감사합니다. ;)
@Tristan4eva and Amtrak7
You can download "NOB's JPN Wall Texture (ftexture)" in here :
http://tokitoko.hp.infoseek.co.jp/lot.htm
Translated HERE (http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftokitoko.hp.infoseek.co.jp%2Flot.htm&sl=ja&tl=en&history_state0=)
(Top of link in a page)
Hope this helps. ;)
Thanks!
Excellent 6x6 grid compatible station.