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Title: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: cantescape on November 03, 2007, 03:58:54 PM
Well as you know, I come up with ideas and great topics. For example the DBS (Diagonal Bat Series)

My other idea is Dubai City Series, These bats are from Dubai City. As you know Dubai is the largest and fastest growing city in the world. Only 29 years old and already containing the worlds largest building yet. There are 1000's of Dubai proposals. I will set-up a thread if people read this. But i need BAT makers here. I am a Batter myself, I'll see how much people read this then maybe i will start.

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Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: Yoman on November 03, 2007, 04:22:52 PM
You might consider rephrasing your post to be less...well arrogant.
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: SimFox on November 03, 2007, 06:59:51 PM
Quote from: cantescape on November 03, 2007, 03:58:54 PM
Well as you know, I come up with ideas and great topics. For example the DBS (Diagonal Bat Series)
in other words - I'm the great, I'm THE great

Quote from: cantescape on November 03, 2007, 03:58:54 PM
As you know Dubai is the largest and fastest growing city in the world.
Wrong on both counts. Have you ever heard of place called Chongqing?? Not to mention Shenzhen...
Only 29 years old and already containing the worlds largest building yet.

Quote from: cantescape on November 03, 2007, 03:58:54 PM
There are 1000's of Dubai proposals.
Seriously doubt that. Have you yourself counted them? ???

Quote from: cantescape on November 03, 2007, 03:58:54 PM
But i need BAT makers here. I am a Batter myself, I'll see how much people read this then maybe i will start.
Come again... You're a bater, right?? so... what do you exactly need and why?? %confuso

Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: Une_ame on November 03, 2007, 09:30:57 PM
I agree with cantescape, Dubai is one of the most interresting fast growing cities in the world because city developers actually "play" with it the way we play with SC4: First, they Terraform (the Palm's islands, the World archipelagoes, Dubai'waterfront, etc), then they choose the biggest landmarks they can afford, then they build them and then, they will watch if the population is growing. The difference is that they do that in the RL!!!!! Some of the nicest building have already been build (check the nippon's BAT thread), It still miss a good representation of the 2 biggests : Al Burj and Burj Dubai.

Sadly &mmm, I must also agree with Yoman. Could you please, modify the wording in order to make it more attractive ? Thanks.
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: jplumbley on November 03, 2007, 10:58:11 PM
@cantescape   Every idea is a good idea.  Dubai is a very cool city and it has some of the nicest buildings in the world of course it is a good idea to make models of many of the buildings within that city both proposed and built.  Now, I think you should take a step back though, over 2 years ago there was a BAT project for the Burj Dubai started, I dont think it was ever finished though.  You are not the first one to suggest these buildings, I see them all being asked for from time to time.  And, well... Diagonal BATs were wanted the first day the game came out, your ideas although good are not yours and only yours as the rest of the community already feels the same way.

@Simfox   I think you shouldnt have responded.  Your post is very confrontational, although some points are right your wording is very bad.  Please take the time to word your post a little bit nicer or dont post, we dont wantyou to start a fight here, its not worth it.
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: dedgren on November 04, 2007, 12:43:26 AM
Oh, come on...

Some of us seem to be a bit full of ourselves, eh?

This is SC4D.  It's not an ongoing "I can top that" contest.  It's not a showcase for cheap shots, even if they are taken in support of a valid point.

Let's all take a deep breath and move along here.


David


Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: cantescape on November 09, 2007, 01:18:25 PM
Yeah, my wording is wrong, I know, when i was writing this i felt what you guys are feeling now. But oh well, I have about 30 bats to release but STEX won't let me put my bats up for download. I have a website thats online and i hope to finish the dubai city buildings. My website is not online yet. There about 4 of us that bat. All together we have about 150 bats. My quote on 1000's of proposals is true. The economy from oil is tremendously boosting. Since SC4D is being so hard. I won't release my numerous skyscrapers on LEX.

       Cant-Escape Productions
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: vester on November 09, 2007, 01:26:37 PM
So you have all these great bats ready to release ?

Why don't you just show us that you're more than just words ?
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: M4346 on November 09, 2007, 01:55:18 PM
Quote from: cantescape on November 09, 2007, 01:18:25 PMBut oh well, I have about 30 bats to release but STEX won't let me put my bats up for download.

That's strange... not entirely impossible, but highly improbable.

QuoteI have a website thats online and i hope to finish the dubai city buildings. My website is not online yet.

Uhm... yeah. That does make sense... NOT.

QuoteThere about 4 of us that bat.

Me, myself and I? Who's the fourth one? ???

QuoteAll together we have about 150 bats. My quote on 1000's of proposals is true. The economy from oil is tremendously boosting. Since SC4D is being so hard. I won't release my numerous skyscrapers on LEX.

In the real world, money talks. In this world, images talk. So when I - and the rest of the community - say "show me the money!" We mean, show us that you're more than just a big mouth. Right now, I'm rather skeptical and the chances of you proving me and everyone else wrong is rather slim.
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: Ryan B. on November 09, 2007, 07:09:10 PM
Folks, let's let cooler heads prevail here.  A scrum isn't what cantescape was thinking.  He was just trying to gauge interest in a Dubai set.

I agree that Dubai is somewhat underrepresented in SC4.  The city is at the forefront of architengineering (< lookit what I made!  :P), and deserves a better representation.

Cantescape, I'm sure your group's BATs are of excellent quality.  I'm definitely interested in a Dubai set.  I'm not much of a BATer, unfortunately - so I don't know what help I am other than a vote of confidence.
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: beskhu3epnm on November 09, 2007, 07:19:22 PM
I'm not sure I understand the OP.

Is he asking for help? Or bragging?

hmm. Need clarification.
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: Une_ame on November 09, 2007, 07:21:32 PM
"architengineering" : that's a good one, you deserve a nice  :thumbsup: for it.

I will add the Al Burg to the picture of the unBAT Dubai buidings.

cantescape, what can I say ? At least you've start a nice Dubai building topic, that's not that bad ! :D!
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: DuskTrooper on November 09, 2007, 09:33:38 PM
Feel free to delete this mods, if you feel it is inappropriate, but I just HAVE to say this.  $%#Ninj2

If you have nothing tangible to contribute, and are just a sack full of hot air and confrentation, then DuDu, go BaiBai. :P
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: M4346 on November 09, 2007, 11:45:21 PM
I do not think Dubai is severely under-represented as claimed above. Some of the very best BATters in the business have recreated or are in the process of recreating the many Dubai buildings.

Andisart, Skyscraper and ks_jpn come to mind. If anything is severely under-represented in this game it is anything but skyscrapers.
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: SimFox on November 10, 2007, 01:33:52 AM
Quote from: marcszar on November 09, 2007, 11:03:32 PM


Dubai is way overrated (http://intellectualinsurgent.blogspot.com/2007/05/dubai-most-overrated-place-on-earth.html). Maybe this discussion belongs in an architecture/urban planning topic, but it's obvious that Dubai is just a 21st century oil boom town akin to the diamond/gold/silver/etc boom towns of the 19th century American west. The city is completely unsustainable, since there will be no way to keep glass-coated skyscrapers in the middle of a desert cool and livable once all the oil is gone. It's an architectural wasteland where even the most mediocre of architects can get their latest mega mall built. Don't get me wrong- I'm sure the people of the UAE and its culture is rich and great, but Dubai is just another example of westernization in the form of cultural/consumerist colonialism. Local culture and centuries-old frugality and lifestyles are dying out. To sum up, it's just another dead, tourist-trap city.
&apls

Most people going bananas about Dubai had never been there; well, often never been anywhere outside of their suburb even...
It is definitely NOT a city. SimCity - may be, with as much a depth and realism to it. (And at that totally "plopped" one with some simelion hack)

It does cater for certain clientèle though. How well it is a mystery as it is next to impossible to get ANY reliable statistics from that Family business. It could be next economic miracle or next Enron on epical scale...
But architecturally it is a mediocre place (I've said architecturally not engineering wise - those aren't one and the same). It's meteoric rise became possible in part due to 9/11 when a LOT of Arab and some other money had pulled out of the states and rest of Western world in fear of some sort of retaliatory action and had basically nowhere to go. Dubai rulers cleverly supplied that place to be and convenient pyramid to get appearance of return.

Quote from: marcszar on November 09, 2007, 11:03:32 PM
EDIT: I know it might appear harsh to be so critical of a city, but then again, Dubai isn't a city! $%Grinno$% It is an agglomeration of hotels, tourist traps, and swanky islands- the pet project of a bored emir.
yeah, if anything it reminds me of metropolis - the movie...

But about this tread...
It's really beyond me what it is all about.
The approach - "I'm great I have tons of GREAT work completed but I won't show it to you! " is really sad.
And all the "peacemakers" here - please understand that if person really has got ANYTHING to show he would have done it right from start.
But instead he just goes on and on making new bombastic claims with absolutely no substance. I think we shouldn't be abusive, but we have to be firm. And I see NOTHING wrong with calling someones bluff, after all no one had force him/her come here and make those calls but ones made he/she HAS to stand by them if he/she wants to get any respect. Respect is a two way street.
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: tag_one on November 10, 2007, 02:50:32 AM
There are 661 highrise buildings approved or under construction in Dubai and 284 are completed.
Further I'm really looking forward to see some of your buildings. Your project sounds really cool, can you please post some renders?
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: Ryan B. on November 10, 2007, 01:37:26 PM
OK, maybe Dubai is overrated.  But that doesn't mean it doesn't have good buildings to BAT.  :)
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: vester on November 10, 2007, 02:17:16 PM
Over rated or not !!! I am still looking forward to see some pictures of all these bat that cantescape have done !!!
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: toxicpiano on November 10, 2007, 03:05:21 PM
I'm skeptical, so show some pictures please or this could turn into another superchad productions.
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: Pat Riot on November 10, 2007, 03:47:57 PM
cant escape- i would love to see your BATs, or maybe help you out in some way, BUT first you're going to have to show me screenshots and link me to your site that is "online but not online".
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: DuskTrooper on November 10, 2007, 09:56:47 PM
She Who Will Not Be Named?  Is that you again?
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: Pat on November 11, 2007, 12:54:58 AM
DT i agree with you... Personally either way here if there are pics of the progress or even a link to the web site heck i would be more then happy to help lot some buildings.... Either way i cant help myself but i think this right help if i haven't seen a pic of the product...

OK bad puns aside here cant_escape please show some work here of the bats you have ready to go... If you are true to your word you will show so we can belive.... SC4D is community of people who really play the game and we love to help... Giving run around and throwing out false hope don't help the matters at all... My top part of this post is an example of what it sounds like you are doing here, giving a run around and nothing to follow threw with.... - pat
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: cantescape on November 13, 2007, 12:41:06 PM
Well, okay, I know how it feels to get your hands on a bat. I don't care about criticism. What are we talking about Dubai city or Dubai Bats? I think SC4D has a little too much devotion towards SimCity 4. There too obsessed. I was only trying to propose some Bat makers to help me along with these Bats so we could release them all at once. But what can i say? These are your opinions and i respect them. However SC4D is not the place for me.

, Cantescape  "$Deal"$
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: jplumbley on November 13, 2007, 12:54:29 PM
@cantescape  Not a single person here is going to "buy" into your idea unless you show some pictures of what you have done BAT-wise.  If you do not show any BATs here that have the potential of being SC4Models or already are SC4Models then I would suggest that this thread be locked.  You came off quite rude in your original post and have made some fairly large proposals and say you have proof but have not shown proof.  Without proof that you are actually working on something noone will help.  The SC4 community is act first, get help later in most cases, if you have 100 or so BATs ready, show just one of them to prove it.  If not, then stop wasting time.
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: callagrafx on November 13, 2007, 02:20:51 PM
Quote from: cantescape on November 13, 2007, 12:41:06 PM
I think SC4D has a little too much devotion towards SimCity 4.

Look up...no, further, to the top of the site.  Now, move your head a little to the left.  See the nice masthead thingy?  What does it say? Does the penny drop?

If there is no constructive element to this thread at all, especially from the original poster, then it has no place in these forums.  I too, like DT, smell a "tina" in the house.  Nope, that particular person has, I believe, had their access restricted in quite a lot of ways.
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: Krio on November 13, 2007, 02:24:47 PM
Quote from: callagrafx on November 13, 2007, 02:20:51 PM
Does the penny drop?

Pennies from heaven! A penny saved is penny earned.
Title: Re: Dubai City Bat Series
Post by: jeronij on November 13, 2007, 02:29:23 PM
This thread has been poorly managed right from the beginning, and it is a total waste of time.  Thread closed


Quote from: cantescape on November 13, 2007, 12:41:06 PM
However SC4D is not the place for me.

, Cantescape  "$Deal"$

You can delete you account at any moment you wish. You are also not welcome here with this attitude.