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Title: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: meinhosen on January 30, 2007, 07:30:19 PM
From another SC4 website, some of you may know that I spent 12 months tramping around the nation of Iraq.  Keeping politics out of the picture, I'd like to share some of the photographs that I snapped while I was over there.

My job required me to spend a lot of time out and about, so it gave me a good opportunity to see a lot of the country and get some good use out of my digital camera.  Much of what you see is from the northern part of Iraq, in and around the ancient city of Mosul (also known as Nineveh).  I hope that you enjoy what you see.  :)

I'll be sharing some more as the weeks go by, so here's a quick sampling:

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Coca Cola.  It doesn't taste quite the same over there... perhaps it's the Arabic writing on the can.  ;)

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The Donkey.  Primary mode of transportation in many parts of the country where gas is either too expensive or too scarce.

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Dawn over Mosul, looking east over the Tigris River.

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Rose garden and broken fountain in a former palace of Saddam Hussein.
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: DebussyMan on January 30, 2007, 07:49:36 PM
How exciting it must had been. Just the fact of being in such an ancient place must be overwhelming, that added to a completely different culture and costumes.

The pics you've posted so far are beautiful. Loved the dawn over the Tigris one. I'm looking forward to more.
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: CabraBuitre on January 30, 2007, 08:03:21 PM
It will be great to see a different perspective of Iraq (not the politicized view with nothing but bad news by the media).

This will really give the opportunity to see alot of Iraq as an everyday place.  I can't wait!
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: goin2chicago on January 30, 2007, 08:40:27 PM
those are some cool pictures. i saw on some news special showing a coke factory in iraq or afganistan, can't remember, so they actually do make it in the region and don't have it imported which i thought was pretty cool. can't wait to see more!
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: deadwoods on January 30, 2007, 09:21:33 PM
I'm guessing the syrup is the same, it's the local water that affects the taste (like buying beer not bottled in Victoria ;D ) Although, I've found in my travels across Asia that Coke tastes basically the same (as does a McD's burger).
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Vandy on January 30, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
Hello, Meinhosen and welcome to Memories Frozen In Time.

I'm so very happy and glad you've decided to open a thread here in The Artist's Place forums.  It's good to have you here.

Your pictures are really quite nice.  I'm sure you have plenty to choose from given your recent tour -- both good and bad.

The first time I had opportunity to have a "foreign" coke was in Ankora, Turkey in October of 1998.  The can said Coke but the taste -- well, let's just say it was different...

Nice picture of the boy on the donkey (jackass?).  Your composition gives a very nice sense of (impending) motion.

It's really hard not to like a sunrise picture and your's is no exception.  Very well done and a very nice memory, I'm sure.

What a beautiful rose against a beautiful fountain.  I do like this picture very much.  That is some beautiful tile work on that fountain.

Wel, MeinHosen, I want to wish you God's blessings and protection on your pending return to Iraq (or, are you already there?).  As I stated in my member intro, I work as a government contractor at the North Carolina National Guard in the IT Computer Helpdesk and support our soldiers both in-state and those deployed.  If you are so inclined, feel feel to drop me a line at my AKO address -- gary.vanderbur.  I'll be more than happy to strike up a correspondence with you.

Take good care!

Regards,

Vandy
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Gaston on January 31, 2007, 11:37:57 AM
Meinhosen,
   I really can't say more than thank you.   I am truely touched by these photos.


---Gaston
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Alek King of SC4 on January 31, 2007, 11:43:08 AM
hmmm as for the soda i know here in the US we are under a high fructose corn syrup conspiracy, that is why is says sugar and or hfcs.  needless to say sugar tastes better imo.
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Giligone on January 31, 2007, 11:47:01 AM
Great photos! It's always great seeing pics from other parts of the world.

Did you just recently get back? I have a cousin in Iraq, Marine corps. Don't know which part of the country though.
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: meinhosen on January 31, 2007, 04:13:40 PM
Thanks for the responses!

DebussyMan, the culture was overwhelming.  Its absolutely nothing like the United States... pretty much puts the definition into foreign, but not in a bad way.

CabraBuitre, I'm happy to provide a hands-on view.  :) 

goin2chicago, the Coke actually comes from Turkey.  I had to reference a journal entry I wrote after I asked my interpreter to translate the part of the can that tells where the stuff was bottled.

deadwoods, lol.

Vandy, I'm back from Iraq (for now).  Keep your eyes on your AKO email  ;)  I really want to say Thank You for opening up this forum- it's a great idea!

Gaston, Thanks!

AK, yes, sugar/ corn syrup does taste better... the dentist doesn't agree... but it tastes better.

Giligone, Marines?  Oh man, I'm sorry. (j/k)  I didn't see too many Marines, but that's just the area of the country where I spent most of my time.  I hope your cousin stays safe- he's got a tough job in a tough area.




On a light note, it wouldn't be the Middle East without a sandstorm.  :P  Here's my experience with one:

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The second picture was taken from inside while we were moving... the junk you see throughout the photo was the residue from the rain/mud that fell during the storm.

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Two members of the Iraqi Police.

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Who could hate kids?  The top is my prize "Iraqi Kids" photo, since I was able to get a picture of some of the local girls (they normally get swarmed and pushed out of the way by the boys when a camera comes out... hence most of my "kid pics" are of the boys)

Thanks again for visiting!
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Serkanner on January 31, 2007, 04:37:00 PM
Impressive set of pictures you have here Meinhosen. I sincerally hope you will indeed post more of you trip to one of the centers of attention of the last few years. The picture you took of the Iraqi girls is indeed very rare ... nad also shows the greatest asset children have to offer us adults: innocence.
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Giligone on January 31, 2007, 07:51:41 PM
Some more great pics! That sand-storm looks fierce. Those photos of the kids are really good too.  :thumbsup:

Are the marines more in the Baghdad area? I don't really know whats going on there, thus is life in Canada, ahha.
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Vandy on January 31, 2007, 08:14:26 PM
Hey, Meinhosen.

Another great series of pictures.  I've never experiecned a sandstorm but I can imagine the ferocity of them.

Your Iraqi people pictures are really great.  I'm especially fond of the children.  Great shots!

I'll keep an eye on my AKO (or, should I say DKO now) mail.

Regards,

Gary
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Menotyou on February 01, 2007, 12:48:11 PM
That sandstorm looks rather intimidating.

Great pictures! &apls &apls
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Gaston on February 01, 2007, 01:10:20 PM
Wow more great pics Meinhosen.   Thanks for sharing them.   And not to many people say this these days but, thanks for risking your life so the rest of us old folk can have our freedoms.   I really appreciate what ALL the service people have given for us.    I saw a pictorial listing of all the service people who died in Afganistan and Iraq not that long ago and it really hit me hard.    So many lives lost and families torn apart.     We can never repay you for your sacrifices.    Thanks again


---Gaston
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: meinhosen on February 07, 2007, 01:17:08 PM
Iraq is typically a place we would associate with Mosques and other Muslim landmarks.  While this is so, it is also true that the northern portion of the country has a tradition of Christianity.  These are a series of pictures I snapped of a monastary tucked into the hills of the tiny city of Al Qush (pronounced "Kwash").  The day was kind of rough for pictures, as overcast skies wreck havoc with my digital camera; what you'll see is the best of the bunch.

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This winding road took us up nearly 500 vertical meters.  I know that it's hard to tell from the picture, but it is a lot steeper than it looks.

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This cross sat on a small spur coming off the mountain the monastary was perched on.  There are several tombs beneath it (to the lower left) belonging to several of the caretakers who were murdered by Hussein's regime in the early 80s.

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This is the monastary from much lower in the valley.

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The monastary itself is about 1100 years old, and much of what we saw was in the process of restoration from the current caretakers of the place.  While it hasn't been in use for the past 75 years, plans are to open it back up to tourists.

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This cross was carved into the retaining wall of the winding road you saw above.
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: dedgren on February 07, 2007, 02:49:56 PM
I look at your pics almost every day- it's just hard to comment here.

The "kid" pics made me want to cry...Jeez, I wish the world was a better place.

Mh, thanks so much for "humanizing" the situation over there for us.  It's way too easy to believe you know things from a few minutes of television news every night.  Thank you as well for your service.


David
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Rayden on February 07, 2007, 03:03:53 PM
Nice pics. That winding road reminds me the ones of the Tour the France up in the Alps or Pyrenees, only misses the trees. The view from above should be magnificent, on a clear day.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Cali on February 07, 2007, 06:47:15 PM
my mom has a very dear friend over there. it is nice to see pictures without bloodshed. thank you :)
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Gaston on February 07, 2007, 08:30:56 PM
Meinhosen,
    Wow they must have Big Red Fish's slope and tunnel mod installed over there.  ;D  That series of switch backs is wicked.    Thanks for sharing more great pics.   That is a part of that country I'd bet not many people even know is there.


---Gaston
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Giligone on February 08, 2007, 06:56:06 AM
Great photos! That's just breathtaking. The view from up there must have been amazing.
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Alek King of SC4 on February 08, 2007, 07:16:28 AM
awesome insight i love this thread pics from a politically charged crazy place, but totally raw, without agenda and intersting thanks for sharing.

oh yeah and that winding road looks like something Jeronij would build  :D
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Badsim on February 10, 2007, 04:11:57 AM
Meinhosen ... sometimes we don't find words . Sometimes they come so grievously that we hesitate to write them . These eyes & smiles are open windows , I have had to close them again feeling an incommensurable dizziness coming . I would like to thank you but I can't .
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: meinhosen on February 10, 2007, 10:15:09 AM
Thank you all for the kind comments!

Since this is a SC4 site, I'm going to show you all a building I saw in Mosul, and I'd like some comments/thoughts on what you all think it might possibly be.

Hint: It's not a Mosque  ;)

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From a different angle:

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And once more:

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One last time, from above (building is in the center of the pic) : 

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This ought to be interesting....  ;D
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Gaston on February 10, 2007, 09:19:01 PM
I have no idea.   My first guess would have been a Mosque.    It looks like Noah's Ark.   Maybe part of a zoo?   A funky control tower?   But from the over head shot it can't be.   I am stumpped.


---Gaston
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: CabraBuitre on February 11, 2007, 11:20:48 AM
My first guess would be a museum.... but then again, it kinda looks like Noah's ark... is it a church?
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Cali on February 11, 2007, 09:52:56 PM
i don't know what is is ,but it's breathtaking. a really big tugboat that got beached?
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Giligone on February 12, 2007, 07:44:28 AM
haha, my first thought was it looked like a boat. But it doesn't seem like there's any water there. So, **shrug** &Thk/(
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Rayden on February 12, 2007, 01:13:58 PM
No comments $%Grinno$%

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Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: meinhosen on February 17, 2007, 12:00:35 PM
LOL - Rayden wins.  I totally forgot that I posted that while I was in Kuwait.

Quote from: Rayden
No comments $%Grinno$%

Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Rayden on February 17, 2007, 03:53:14 PM
Hehe, it took me a while to spot it, as from a few kilometres from the air, it's a tiny place not well visible. I had to zoom it down bellow 1000 meters and do a complete linear trace through the whole Mosul area to find it. :satisfied:
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: meinhosen on February 23, 2007, 08:39:20 AM
I gotta hand it to you guys, those were some interesting responses.   My hat's off for the tugboat comment (Cali and Giligone) and the control tower/zoo (Gaston)- I never would have thought of that.

EDIT Oh man, Cabre, I completely missed your post.  Close guesses on two counts, and I'd say that it would make a pretty cool museum. 
Thanks to Rayden for the sharp eyes.

The following pictures are two of my very favorites.

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Enjoy.
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Rayden on February 23, 2007, 11:13:55 AM
Quote from: CabraBuitre on February 11, 2007, 11:20:48 AM
My first guess would be a museum.... but then again, it kinda looks like Noah's ark... is it a church?

CabraBuitre's guess was good, if he had missed those  ...  and the question if it was a church :P

About those last pictures, children, even on a war zone, looks always fantastic.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Giligone on February 23, 2007, 11:55:51 AM
Those are some great pics. Are either of those you?
Title: Re: Meinhosen's tour in Iraq
Post by: Vandy on February 27, 2007, 03:49:16 PM
Hi, Meinhosen.

I must say I was quite interesting in learning what that building was.  Noah's Ark Church!  How interesting.  Did you ever get a chance to go to Mosul?

I love your pictures of the children.  As Rayden pointed out, even in a war zone, children are children.  Great pictures from a great photographer!

Regards,

Gary