update July 25th: done some cleaning up and deleted some non-functional links while adding new fighters from smart_speeder.
Here comes the promised list of military aircraft, not as comprehensive as the one for civil aviation.
Please also note that the props are not lotted, so in order to use them in the game You have to create a lot for them first.
Auxillary/Cargo aircraft
C-5 Galaxy (http://homepage2.nifty.com/tabinohito/newpage12.html) by Tabinohito (Static prop)
C-17 Globemaster (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=16698) by Fairlane500 (Static prop)
E-3 Sentry (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=16706) by Fairlane 500 (Static prop)
KC-10 Tanker (http://homepage2.nifty.com/tabinohito/newpage12.html) by Tabinohito (Static prop)
KC-135 Tanker (http://homepage2.nifty.com/tabinohito/newpage12.html) by Tabinohito (Static prop)
E-4 Airborne commandpost (http://homepage2.nifty.com/tabinohito/newpage12.html) by Tabinohito (Static prop)
P-3C Orion (http://homepage2.nifty.com/tabinohito/newpage12.html) by Tabinohito (Static prop)
P-3C Orion (http://kamurai.sakura.ne.jp/editbbs/lev-bbs.cgi?bid=SC4=log2-1&skin=skin/config/=/editbbs/skin/config/&style=1&page=3&ppid=1129027102980249#1129027102980249) by Kanoyasityo(?) (Automata, not sure what it replaces though)
SR-71 Blackbird (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=2804) by aceracer (static prop)
T-6 Texan II training aircraft (http://homepage2.nifty.com/tabinohito/newpage12.html) by Tabinohito (static prop)
T-43 Transport aircraft (http://homepage2.nifty.com/tabinohito/newpage12.html) by Tabinohito (static prop)
VC-25 "Airforce one" (http://homepage2.nifty.com/tabinohito/newpage12.html) by Tabinohito (Static prop)
Bombers:
B-52 Stratofortress (http://homepage2.nifty.com/tabinohito/newpage12.html) by Tabinohito (Static prop)
Fighters:
Aquila (?) (http://nonred.exblog.jp/6537373/) by smart_speeder (static prop)
EF-2000 (Eurofighter) (http://nonred.exblog.jp/6943518/) by smart_speeder (Static prop)
F-5E Tiger (http://nonred.exblog.jp/7387359/) by smart_speeder (static prop)
F-15 Eagle (http://nonred.exblog.jp/7083118/) by smart_speeder (static prop)
F-15 Eagle (http://homepage2.nifty.com/tabinohito/newpage12.html) by Tabinohito (Static prop)
F-16 Falcon (http://nonred.exblog.jp/6943395/) by smart_speeder (Static prop)
F-16 Falcon (http://homepage2.nifty.com/tabinohito/newpage12.html) by Tabinohito (Static prop)
F/A-18 Hornet (http://homepage2.nifty.com/tabinohito/newpage12.html) by Tabinohito (Static prop)
F-22 Raptor (http://homepage2.nifty.com/tabinohito/newpage12.html) by Tabinohito (Static prop)
Harrier (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=11468) by Casper3141 (Static prop)
J-8 Finback (http://nonred.exblog.jp/7412688/) by smart_speeder
JAS-39 Gripen (http://nonred.exblog.jp/7558222/) by smart_speeder
Junkers JU87 Stuka (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=20052) by EvilCoolKid (Static prop)
Mig-21 Fishbed (http://nonred.exblog.jp/7363976/)
Mig-29 Fulcrum (http://nonred.exblog.jp/7601782/)
Mirage 2000 (http://nonred.exblog.jp/7247077/) by smart_speeder (static prop)
P-51 Mustang (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=20056) by EvilCoolKid (Static prop)
Novi Avion (http://nonred.exblog.jp/7371343/)
Saegheh (http://nonred.exblog.jp/7392309/) by smart_speeder (static prop)
Saia-90 (http://nonred.exblog.jp/7712554/) by smart_speeder (static prop)
SF-24 Ventus (http://nonred.exblog.jp/7105907/) by smart_speeder (static prop)
Spitfire (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=2804) by aceracer (static prop)
Strigon(?) (http://nonred.exblog.jp/6568550/) by smart_speeder (static prop)
SU-47Firkin (http://nonred.exblog.jp/7458566/) by smart_speeder
Please feel free to suggest additional aircraft that You have links to.
Note that this is just a compilation for Your conveniance, I have not created any of the above and do not take any responsibility for the contents in the links.
Some of the above links do not have download options, but I have listed them here anyway since they exist on the respective creator´s website.
I wish You all the best of luck and have fun with the lots and props!
Bump to let You see the new wonders made by Tabi... :thumbsup:
Can I suggest that you add a link to this thread from your first post in the sticky thread with civil aircrafts? :)
Thus this one won't get lost after a while when there haven't been any replies in it. ;)
This is a nice service you provide to the community, Swesim. Thanks! :thumbsup:
swesim thank you for this list as well!!!
Quote from: RippleJet on January 31, 2008, 09:45:08 AM
Can I suggest that you add a link to this thread from your first post in the sticky thread with civil aircrafts? :)
Thus this one won't get lost after a while when there haven't been any replies in it. ;)
Consider it done!
@Snorrelli: My pleasure, thanks!
@Pat: I´m glad to help in my small way.
Are they just props and we must make the lot ourselves
Thanks alot for the links but the Smart_Speeder files are Inaccessible to me. Does anybody else have that problem? ???
Unfortunately I noticed the same thing, but I have asked in the Japanese section in this forum if someone can make him aware of the problem.
It seems to have something to do with Yahoo! as he has his website as a blog there.
I hope he get the problem sorted!
As a small compensation I have added some new planes from tabi (variations of F15 and F16 as well as a few completely new ones)
As usual the planes are just static props, so in order to use them in the game You have to create a lot for them.
There's tons of fighters on the bottom half of the pages of the SimCity Force log: http://homepage2.nifty.com/kamurai/simcity/log.htm
Most of the ones by smart_speeder are there; additionally, plenty by SNZ- very well done ones.
Also, there's some new(er) ones from tabi on the LEX.
Quote from: fafalone on March 14, 2010, 12:43:21 AM
There's tons of fighters on the bottom half of the pages of the SimCity Force log: http://homepage2.nifty.com/kamurai/simcity/log.htm
Most of the ones by smart_speeder are there; additionally, plenty by SNZ- very well done ones.
Also, there's some new(er) ones from tabi on the LEX.
I checked those threads ,espacially smart_speeder's but can't find the download button for many of those files , help anyone ?
Quote from: mobius06 on March 05, 2011, 06:24:49 AMI checked those threads ,espacially smart_speeder's but can't find the download button for many of those files , help anyone ?
Just some of his works are located in these links.
The VF-1, is located here: http://itmedicine.s80.xrea.com/simedit/lev-bbs.cgi?bid=SC4=2-4&skin=skin/config/=/simedit/skin/config/&style=1&page=2&ppid=1228584555929106#1228584555929106
Su-27: http://itmedicine.s80.xrea.com/simedit/lev-bbs.cgi?bid=SC4=2-4&skin=skin/config/=/simedit/skin/config/&style=1&page=2&ppid=1229272986654737#1229272986654737
ADFX-01: http://itmedicine.s80.xrea.com/simedit/lev-bbs.cgi?bid=SC4=2-4&skin=skin/config/=/simedit/skin/config/&style=1&page=1&ppid=1245209596719218#1245209596719218
Su-37: http://itmedicine.s80.xrea.com/simedit/lev-bbs.cgi?bid=SC4=2-4&skin=skin/config/=/simedit/skin/config/&style=1&page=1&ppid=1245209596719218#124525952861886
F-16: http://itmedicine.s80.xrea.com/simedit/lev-bbs.cgi?bid=SC4=2-3&skin=skin/config/=/simedit/skin/config/&style=1&page=4&ppid=1196145012130815#1196145012130815
SF-21: http://itmedicine.s80.xrea.com/simedit/lev-bbs.cgi?bid=SC4=log2-2&skin=skin/config/=/simedit/skin/config/&style=1&page=4&ppid=1160313913209872#1160313913209872
Nakajima Ki-43: http://itmedicine.s80.xrea.com/simedit/lev-bbs.cgi?bid=SC4=log2-2&skin=skin/config/=/simedit/skin/config/&style=1&page=0&ppid=1190224341417277#1190224341417277
Kawasaki Ki-61: http://itmedicine.s80.xrea.com/simedit/lev-bbs.cgi?bid=SC4=log2-2&skin=skin/config/=/simedit/skin/config/&style=1&page=0&ppid=1190224341417277#1190346729786216
X-02: http://itmedicine.s80.xrea.com/simedit/lev-bbs.cgi?bid=SC4=log2-2&skin=skin/config/=/simedit/skin/config/&style=1&page=0&ppid=1191687006861614#1191687006861614
Some more Su-37 planes: http://itmedicine.s80.xrea.com/simedit/lev-bbs.cgi?bid=SC4=log2-2&skin=skin/config/=/simedit/skin/config/&style=1&page=0&ppid=1191687006861614#1191940165575720
Sorry to double post, just wanted to add these to the list.
In addition to Casper's Harrier set on the STEX, here are some more of his works:
Osprey Prop Set: http://www.simtropolis.com/forum/files/file/11471-caspermilitaryhelicoptersospreypropset/
Huey Prop Set: http://www.simtropolis.com/forum/files/file/11470-casperhueyhelicopterpropset/
A-10 Thunderbolt: http://www.simtropolis.com/forum/files/file/11469-caspera10thunderboltpropset/
Sorry to bump an old thread, but does anyone have any of those tabi or smartspeeder fighter jets they could send me? Would really love to have the Eurofighter in particular. ;)
Quote from: InvaderNat on June 29, 2014, 04:54:05 PM
...but does anyone have any of those tabi or smartspeeder fighter jets they could send me? Would really love to have the Eurofighter in particular. ;)
I would suggest that you read the site rules here
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=15094.0
paying close attention to rule 10.
-catty
Moderator
Since when has it been against the rules to redistribute BATs/mods between members? ()what() I've seen plenty of people do it for rare BATs or BATs that are no longer available online (which these ones are). Nobody claims them as there own, we simply want to use them in our game.
Quote from: InvaderNat on June 30, 2014, 10:35:25 PM
Since when has it been against the rules to redistribute BATs/mods between members? ()what() I've seen plenty of people do it for rare BATs or BATs that are no longer available online (which these ones are). Nobody claims them as there own, we simply want to use them in our game.
Its been in the site rules since this site was setup in 2006, so its very definitely not a new rule, as to your argument that these BATs are no longer available online a very quick internet search on my part found a number of sites that had smartspeeder fighter jets available to download, I suggest you begin with this site
http://homepage2.nifty.com/kamurai/simcity/log13.html
And yes I have downloaded a couple of them so I know the download links are valid.
-catty
moderator
Yes, I have checked that site many times. However it does not have all of the BATs listed above (JAS-39, EF2000 for example), hence why I asked.
A quick google search sends me to this site
http://nonred.exblog.jp/
but the download button just hangs when you click it, I'll have another look later
Later ...
Sorry the other places I checked have the same problem in that they were all using Yahoo Briefcase and never moving the files when it was shutdown, while I don't plan on going thru this site for other topics where people may have attached files, I would remind people its against the site rules, the only exception is going to be if someone who has these plugins can prove to us (ie the site) that they have made every effort to contact smart-speeder re these plugins and its proved impossible to get their permission or find a site that these files can be downloaded.
-catty
moderator
Yeah trust me I checked everywhere before asking here, oh well.
We're talking works that are a decade old, disappeared from the web years ago, and have either unknown or long abandoned contact e-mails-- and it's not ok to share privately with full credit given to the original author? For something they publicly distributed? Private files or claiming credit are one thing, but you seriously think there's a single person out there who would be upset that the content they dedicated their time and effort to, for the community's benefit, was privately distributed after they left?
Hell when I made TMIP, I was a couple bugfixes away from a public release, so it was still private, when something happened that caused a multi-year absence. Do you have any idea how excited and happy I was to come back and find my team went ahead and posted it and that people actually used it and liked it?
It's simply not reasonable to think anyones intention was that, when the site they uploaded it to no longer existed or had it, that their attitude is 'well whoever has it is it, no new people can have it'.
That said, I don't have any of the smart speeder fighters from the original site, only the ones republished elsewhere (all on pages linked through this thread and up as of today).
The ones by tabi... there's a few published in a pack on the LEX, but there's also a set that's not:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fg7a5aH6.jpg&hash=7eda1ddf816977ae2bdc6959883ba6c95d376c26)
Are those the ones you're looking for?
Hi fafalone
QuoteWe're talking works that are a decade old, disappeared from the web years ago, and have either unknown or long abandoned contact e-mails-- and it's not ok to share privately with full credit given to the original author?
No its not OK to start sharing people's work privately because its been a few years or they haven't answered a email or the site it was hosting on has disappeared, what we are saying is if someone has a file they want to share with the community and the creator can no longer be contacted then they talk to us
the site staff via PM about the file ... who created it, what site it was on why they want to publicly share it ie its a dependency, etc
In some cases we may already be aware of the file and the reasons for its disappearance, in one recent case the files had been deleted some years ago by their creator as they caused problems in people cities and he had moved onto other things, but the creator was contacted and he gave permission if someone wanted to fix the files they could be re-released by that person.
-catty
moderator
Your post conflates public and private. Huge difference between posting on the exchange and a single user wanting a public file no longer available because the author is no longer active in the community (which absolutely does not imply them banning private sharing, this is Publicly Released content. Not private/beta content that was not intended to be shared.).
If you're truly saying that it's unacceptable for this:
"Hey, I'm looking for x file, but the site it was published on no longer exists and the author disappeared"
"I have it, I'll send it to your private e-mail."
That's the same as unauthorized distribution and tantamount to theft, and therefore a rule violation worthy of being banned? That's insane and it's going to be a huge shitstorm, because as a content creator I find it highly offensive that once the exchange that hosts my content goes down, someone who had nothing to do with its creation is going to come and tell people they can't send a copy to someone who wants it because I didn't answer an e-mail, or that they have to wait weeks and screenshot their inbox or something.
Hi
fafaloneI don't plan on discussing the contents of your post at this time, despite the tone of your post ()sad() I have sought clarification from site administration on SC4D policy in this matter, I should point out that most plugins come with readme's or EULA's that very clearly state what the creator of the plugin expectations are regarding their work, picking one at random which happens to be the "Narya Production GRAVEYARD" the readme for it clearly states
QuoteFeel free to modify the lots for yourself and show them in your city journals, but please don't distribute them without asking first
Anyway as I said, I or someone else will respond later regarding site policy.
-catty
moderator
Ok. And sorry if my tone comes off as hostile, it just seemed really insane to me, and any frustration is directed at the policy itself and not you personally.
Quote from: fafalone on August 25, 2014, 11:33:24 PM
Ok. And sorry if my tone comes off as hostile, it just seemed really insane to me, and any frustration is directed at the policy itself and not you personally.
I can understand your frustration, but you have to remember we are a public forum and as such we can't always do what we want as we have a responsibility to act fairly to all our users especially when it comes to people's creations.
Site staff (one of whom is a lawyer) are continuing to discuss this ....
-catty
Just to contribute ...
Since the works of tabinoito are already republished in LEX i could send material that is lacking
Quote from: NCGAIO on August 29, 2014, 02:58:43 PM
Just to contribute ...
Since the works of tabinoito are already republished in LEX i could send material that is lacking
That's would be great :thumbsup: I think the admin team still needs to clarify just what the policy is regarding "Orphan" plugins "$Deal"$ before anything happens over at the LEX.
-catty
Quote from: catty on August 29, 2014, 06:03:57 PM
That's would be great :thumbsup:
-catty
This is the stuff that's missing.
It only remains to say how or to whom to send!
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pAsxLFQJxeqaEdqaPvkfEvwSntgAzyocqyA87cz0PeM=w172-h197-p-no) (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/z6LgCK_3snZ-qCOTyivM6FNzhKbVP6-Nq-q9VuuMx2Y=w179-h203-p-no) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/M5MqIeGhbzGIR7wMCR-ttL6ccthozFq_n4IofGkLXyY=w149-h191-p-no) (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/3nleKiEi24DcrVEqIRCXlRr4NyZyW36gDXzuKCzdRb0=w103-h191-p-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/IozmNfsdBmdWRI1rQB4hMs-wyVH914iVK2LAT7I1wfQ=w277-h197-p-no) (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/gxv7uUA4-fyQ8VCPtGYuUBDWJjz2oQMR_U06wT-Rn0A=w288-h197-p-no)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/9qkf6MLsgxp0ghaHrL0T66DVEhs_DGM7D8j5j853b70=w282-h207-p-no) (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/Oqn3g0NbGEZ-kr0a0QNlJFcMPVlH884or0ncU9achTA=w279-h191-p-no)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/SQi77V_d4L2ur1Cy-1QHQgNoyGgrGss6nCVap2qXoxI=w333-h203-p-no) (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/buo5yE-J1af39At62h2MnGvYiIdpw3e6xREbbqgbQRc=w106-h197-p-no)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/kQk9raErUvaSnk-qywVZ_c-5Z06k3qufwBtQXdQvcSs=w333-h203-p-no)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/h_Q-KOXrPL1KHk-BanMssa6T7MgL4H7GCgJ2ILg8y4w=w312-h191-p-no)
Hi NCGAIO
I'm posting a message over on the admin board that was discussing the above, so hopefully will have an answer soon for you.
-catty
I'm curious as to the lawyer's legal background. Is this person a copyright lawyer? Legal training makes them better than the layman for virtually anything related to law, true, but a background in copyright law would certainly be the most useful.
The question I've always had is this: Is what we release actually ours, or is it considered property of EA as is the case for everything made for SC2013? Are the EULAs legally binding? Whether EA's, Pegasus', or a random guy's/gal's? Is there a statute of limitations?
True, we should respect people's EULAs as that's how we roll, but the question is pointed moreso to their limits when it comes to works where their author's have vanished from the face of the planet.
Sorry for hijacking the topic with my mind words. I've always found the subject fascinating and something that the major exchanges need to make a decision about as the game gets older and more sites/authors disappear.
I believe the lawyers on hand (which one is it? The actual SC4Devotion legal counsel, or someone else?) are fully qualified to be discussing copyright law, if I'm not mistaken.
EDIT: A quick glance at the EULA for the Maxis tools (LE, BAT, etc.) appears to suggest that the custom content created for the game with EA tools remains property of the creators ("respective owners"?) but that EA is released from all liability and has the right to remove access to the tools at any time. I think when they released the game, EA wanted no part of anything the community might make, not realizing what a boon user-created material was for the longevity of the game.
SC4Devotion has legal counsel... &Thk/(
That's interesting and weird at the same time. Anyway, I am aware of what the EULA for using SC4's tools says, but my concern is whether it actually means what it says it does. Is the EULA overridden by other SC4-related EULAs (Is there are any)? Is the EULA for SC2013 an indication of EA's present stance on user-generated content and can it be retroactively applied to older releases?
(SC2013's EULA for the curious. Note section F: https://eacom.s3.amazonaws.com/SimCity_1_3_2013-ROW_EU_updated.pdf)
Quick research indicates that, yes, EULAs are absolutely and completely legally binding because you don't own software. You license it.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100912/12212110968.shtml
If a company doesn't want you to sell/give away software you bought or has ridiculous policies you need to follow, that just sucks for you. Anyway, this is true for EA's EULAs. But what about created works? Does EA own in part or in whole the creative works of others because they used tools provided by EA to create those works? Does the EULA/company policy of EA supersede that of, say, Pegasus' EULA/policy?
Quote from: HappyDays on August 31, 2014, 01:30:12 AM
SC4Devotion has legal counsel... &Thk/(
That's interesting and weird at the same time. ...
$%Grinno$%
No what we have is a SC4 player who happens to be a lawyer in real life ... interesting points
APSMS and
HappyDays
Quote from: catty on August 31, 2014, 03:08:59 AM
No what we have is a SC4 player who happens to be a lawyer in real life ... interesting points APSMS and HappyDays
Ah, I thought that might be who you meant. The other guy hasn't been around in a few months I noticed.
And the software bit is completely true, mostly due to legal definitions of "ownership", which in my understanding is not the traditional use of the term (or at least, as layman are familiar with it).
This is what happens when you read too much fine print.
While actual public distribution may be a point of legal contention, non-profit private sharing between individual people of free content posted in a public place is the topic of the day; and whether or not it's technically a violation of copyright law (maybe, and the idea a suit would EVER be brought AND not accept an affirmative defense is laughable), isn't even the biggest issue. Regardless, SC4D is not liable for what I e-mail to people and placing restrictions on my private communication is unethical. SC4D has zero moral right to ban me because of anything I do in private.
Not letting people's hard work die with the site it happened to be hosted on, by sending the content to a single user asking for it, is ethically sound, and you're threatening to exclude me from this site because I chose to act within what I believe to be ethically correct, by sending a file through another service not operated by SC4D. While I also believe posting orphan works publicly is ok, THAT is a valid issue for SC4D policy. NOT what I choose to e-mail people.
Quote from: fafalone on August 31, 2014, 05:40:15 AM
SC4D has zero moral right to ban me because of anything I do in private.
Actually, it has the right to. As long as you announce in public ( as in, in a thread) that you're going to send someone's files via email, an administrator has all the rights to terminate your membership, as per the rules it is not tolerated.
However, if no one knows you've sent the files beside you and the person who receive the mail, then free to you to do it. No one knows, nothing happened. You can even tell that person by PM on SC4D as no one can view them beside you and him. (and possibly the webmaster as they're stored on the server IIRC) ;)
Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong somewhere. This is how I've always interpreted the site's rules. But if I'm wrong, then tell me what the correct interpretation is. :)
Quote from: art128 on August 31, 2014, 05:59:45 AM
...Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong somewhere. This is how I've always interpreted the site's rules. But if I'm wrong, then tell me what the correct interpretation is. :)
:thumbsup:
art128 is correct, while staff are still continuing to discuss "orphan plugins" and what should happen when either their creator or the site the plugin was on has disappeared ... the policy re exchanging other people's work on this site is very clear, what people do via PM is something we can't stop you doing as it is private, but if you try asking for or exchanging other people's work on this site in public we the site staff are going to take a very dim view of it, in my case I will warn people first, but if they continue to ask publicly for other people's work to be sent to them, then there will be consequences.
-catty
moderator
Cathy said consequences... (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsc4devotion.com%2Fforums%2FSmileys%2FJasonSmilies%2Flatigo.gif&hash=7e713fce7d10fbbdd1a6517bf64c4456e3949662)(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsc4devotion.com%2Fforums%2FSmileys%2FJasonSmilies%2Flatigo.gif&hash=7e713fce7d10fbbdd1a6517bf64c4456e3949662)(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsc4devotion.com%2Fforums%2FSmileys%2FJasonSmilies%2Flatigo.gif&hash=7e713fce7d10fbbdd1a6517bf64c4456e3949662)
::)
I am glad to know that SC4D isn't policing private activities; it was something I was always worried about when it came to asking about orphaned files, since I was never really sure about the kosherness of sharing files personally with others if they had originally been posted on the LEX or SC4D. (though, to be sure, I've never actually done this; just thought about it).
Still, the rest is clear; you can't expect to discuss prohibited activities in public (like accessing pirated software or other things prohibited by site rules) and not expect repercussions.
Quote from: Girafe on August 31, 2014, 11:35:20 AM
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QuoteI am glad to know that SC4D isn't policing private activities
wouldn't want to even if we could, your PM's are $%#Ninj2
If you want to be that petty, no where do the rules say ASKING if anyone has something is against the rules. Unless you really want to start calling it piracy. In that case, I reject that and accuse you of libel for maligning my character in falsely accusing me of piracy.
MOD EDIT: RULE 10 on this site
QuoteDownloadable content from the forums and the exchange, including (but not limited to) mods, plugins, prop packs, etc. may not be redistributed without the permission of the original author. Any user found to be redistributing content without permission (including through torrents or other file-sharing systems) will be subject to termination of all membership privileges and site access. People work hard, for free, to make this stuff. Don't steal it from them.
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fafalone I have ignored the tone of your previous posts, but there is a limit and you have just reached mine.
I'm deducting a karma point from you, there may be further consequences ...
()sad()
-catty
moderator
This topic is now unlocked, while I'm not going to stop people discussing "orphan plugins" in this topic, if those discussions continue in the same tone as before, this topic will be locked again and/or moved from the public site onto the private boards.
-catty
moderator
For fans of Tabi; his stuff has been uploaded to SimCity China (http://www.simcity.cn/thread-132647-1-1.html) by Fanta
Well, looks like the copyright and piracy issues are the PRC's problem now! :-\
BTW - Did you know that a NAM 32 download is posted on the site (as Chinese version of the Installer)? http://www.simcity.cn/thread-130034-1-1.html
I'm not surprised. SimCity China has quite a few uploads I'd say have questionable authorization status.
The likely driving force behind this is that someone thinks, "Hell, why not just put the download here instead of making people go to a site where they don't know the language?"
Not that this legitimizes the behavior but at least you understand the root cause of it.
Quote from: trabman11 on September 07, 2014, 01:03:25 PM
Well, looks like the copyright and piracy issues are the PRC's problem now! :-\
BTW - Did you know that a NAM 32 download is posted on the site (as Chinese version of the Installer)? http://www.simcity.cn/thread-130034-1-1.html
Hmmm...when have I heard of this before? The Chinese have been pirating Windows for years. ()sad()
Yeah. They have a different policy on that site.
However, I think it is more tolerated within the communtiy based on two factors... read Art and Weixc's posts here (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=13822.msg425626#msg425626) to understand what I mean
Quote from: Sunset_baby on September 07, 2014, 07:51:04 AMFor fans of Tabi; his stuff has been uploaded to SimCity China (http://www.simcity.cn/thread-132647-1-1.html) by Fanta
Unfortunately it is necessary have a reading permission greater than 6 to see the post which certainly will not be the case for those who are not regular users SCN
Besides of the quoted posts also good to remember that it is necessary to more that group Public to be allowed to post or send in reprinted works.
Exactly the session where it published the translation of NAM instaler so is within the rules of posting on the site.
Quote from: Sunset_baby on September 08, 2014, 05:29:51 AM
...However, I think it is more tolerated within the communtiy based on two factors... read Art and Weixc's posts here (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=13822.msg425626#msg425626) to understand what I mean
Yes and if you keep reading you will notice I locked that topic for a while, if we can keep to either where military planes can be located or what do you think should happen when both the website and/or creator of a plugin has vanished and its proved impossible to contact the creator it would be much appreciated by me.
Also real life has caught up with a couple of the staff that was discussing "orphan plugins" in the staff boards, there may be some delay before a site policy is decided on.
-catty
moderator
Ah, I see.. I might have mis-interpreted that to an acceptance of SCC's policy, due to the previous mentioned conditions. For this I am sorry :-[
As for the collection of Tabi's work; the link was found from Fanta's page on SCC - And I'm sure he is doing this by the books.. as he has done with the works of NOB,APTX,Kei in the past.
@NCGAIO: That must have happened recently.. I found the collection from Fanta's site, and he has never had restrictions before.. to my knowledge at least
Quote from: Sunset_baby on September 08, 2014, 04:03:44 PM
@NCGAIO: That must have happened recently.. I found the collection from Fanta's site, and he has never had restrictions before.. to my knowledge at least
Well... see for yourself
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wzLQ4c6T_u8/VA9XgW3frPI/AAAAAAAACcM/LGd1XK4Lldk/w640-h219-no/SCN%2BPERMISSION.jpg)
Quote from: NCGAIO on September 09, 2014, 12:42:11 PM
Quote from: Sunset_baby on September 08, 2014, 04:03:44 PM
@NCGAIO: That must have happened recently.. I found the collection from Fanta's site, and he has never had restrictions before.. to my knowledge at least
Well... see for yourself
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wzLQ4c6T_u8/VA9XgW3frPI/AAAAAAAACcM/LGd1XK4Lldk/w640-h219-no/SCN%2BPERMISSION.jpg)
Yes, it is like that for me to right now (apart from the automatic translation).. however, when I posted the link 2 days ago; everything was fine = no read permissions required
now, since I don't know what has changed, I prefer not to jump to any conclusions
For all we know - Fanta could have been in contact with Tabi about re-uploading the material previous to posting it to SCC..
Well maybe a bit improbable .. then it would be the same case for Key; APTX; Nob etc ...
I think this fits more with the fact adapt the situation to what was said HERE (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=13822.msg425630#msg425630) earlier by weixc812.
Surely for the large majority of foreign users this is a loss because it is unlikely that they can understand the mechanics of the site to get the permissions.
Ie again without access to the material lost.
Currently it IS the same case for APTX, Kei and NOB's content linked on Fanta's page (at least for me)
Still no luck tracking down those BATs? &mmm
Hi, I found a page in Sim City China containing Tabi's aircraft and more stuff. You need to be logged in Sim City China to download them. Hope this helps.
http://www.simcity.cn/thread-132647-1-1.html (http://www.simcity.cn/thread-132647-1-1.html)
Regards! :D
PD: If this link is violating site rules, please tell me, and I will delete it as soon as possible.
Too bad tabi doesn't upload to the LEX anymore. Airman over at ST just pointed me to these great planes (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1860).
Links to find content offsite are definitely allowed so thank you for sharing that one :thumbsup:
Had offered the rest of Tabi material that was missing for be loaded but it seems that the analysis of this has been lost in time.
Now that SC-CN returned to provide the material for download maybe someone else's site could complete the collection in the LEX
Quote from: NCGAIO on April 13, 2015, 06:48:18 PM
Had offered the rest of Tabi material that was missing for be loaded but it seems that the analysis of this has been lost in time...
Hi NCGAIO
Sorry that happened, I'm no longer one of the SC4D staff ... I know it was being discussed when I left ... &mmm