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Title: low educated ppl want HT jobs
Post by: DutcHmaNinc on January 26, 2008, 03:56:30 AM
So here's the deal. I got me a small town. No neighbours no nothing. Just this town. There is a small comunity with no IQ smarter then 50. As i see it there is no possibility that there could be a demand for I-HT. Any idea's what's going on? I got no education mod running or anything.


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overview

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my elementry school

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bad education data view. but query show's high school grade

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Census Repository Facility

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Demand
Title: Re: low educated ppl want HT jobs
Post by: xxdita on January 26, 2008, 04:22:59 AM
It would help if you had RippleJet's Census Repository vers. 2 (http://www.simtropolis.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=41&threadid=84816), as it shows the actual drives. This may help get to the root of the issue.
Title: Re: low educated ppl want HT jobs
Post by: DutcHmaNinc on January 26, 2008, 04:36:45 AM
ah ok .. let's install this baby and see what is says.
Title: Re: low educated ppl want HT jobs
Post by: DutcHmaNinc on January 26, 2008, 04:41:50 AM
strange there arn't that many ppl demanding I-HT.


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Census Repository Facility
Title: Re: low educated ppl want HT jobs
Post by: xxdita on January 26, 2008, 04:54:18 AM
You don't have any IHT growing, so this is probably just something you need to play out for a bit. It's probably a few R$$'s that are demanding the IHT.
Title: Re: low educated ppl want HT jobs
Post by: BarbyW on January 26, 2008, 05:03:38 AM
DutcHmaNinc: can I suggest you get wouanagaine's Clip2Pic (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1462) from the LEX so you can just take images of the information you want to show. Even on a fast connection I am experiencing very slow viewing of your big images.
Title: Re: low educated ppl want HT jobs
Post by: DutcHmaNinc on January 26, 2008, 05:07:54 AM
i got clip 2 pic. But i got 2 monitors. So i got to cut the pictures anyways, cos my 2nd monitor isn't that interesting :). Nxt time i'll make the pictures smaller. thx for the quick reply's and i'll play the map for a little while and see if i can develop some I-HT.
Title: Re: low educated ppl want HT jobs
Post by: jmyers2043 on January 27, 2008, 06:54:54 AM
I'm not an expert at this but here is my best answer.

Looking at your picture I see a good number of R$$ homes and CS$$ buildings. I also note in the census snap that there are 2,000+ R$$ Sims living in your community. Now have a look at the Work Force drives chart in This Thread (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=1878.0). You will see that R$$ Sims who have an education level of 0 through 100 will not want to work in I-HT. But it appears to me that there are a small number of educated Sims in your city as there is a small amount of demand for I-HT. 38% of Sims that have an education of 100-150 would work in I-HT industries if those jobs were available. The actual jobs are not there at the present time. Be sure that as your workforce becomes more education that an I-HT will probably pop up. And the drive behind that will be the high school, I think. The education graph is an average indicator. Some will be higher and some lower.

Title: Re: low educated ppl want HT jobs
Post by: RippleJet on January 27, 2008, 04:42:46 PM
I must say I enjoy being in Brazil and seeing xxdita take command here! :thumbsup:

I'll just chime in and say that the graphs presented in the game are not linear.
The tics on the vertical axis are correct only for -6000, 0 and 24000.

Otherwise you will notice that the graph is in fact logarithmic.
Any demand value read from the Census Repository Facility gives a much larger reading in the graph.

E.g. a true demand of 12,000 shows as 18,000 in the graph,
and a demand of a few hundreds shows up as thousands.

Now, back to the Brazilian sun, samba and caipirinhas... ;D
Title: Re: low educated ppl want HT jobs
Post by: DutcHmaNinc on January 28, 2008, 12:31:31 AM
yeah i kinda figured the RCI meter is a bit off. Gonne put my trust in the Census Repository instead of the RCI now.
Title: Re: low educated ppl want HT jobs
Post by: wouanagaine on January 28, 2008, 12:43:16 AM
Quote from: DutcHmaNinc on January 26, 2008, 05:07:54 AM
i got clip 2 pic. But i got 2 monitors. So i got to cut the pictures anyways, cos my 2nd monitor isn't that interesting :). Nxt time i'll make the pictures smaller. thx for the quick reply's and i'll play the map for a little while and see if i can develop some I-HT.
ALT-PRINTSCREEN capture the active window only whereas PRINTSCREEN capture the whole desktop. This is a Windows behavior, not clip2pic btw

Title: Re: low educated ppl want HT jobs
Post by: DutcHmaNinc on January 28, 2008, 03:10:57 AM
Quote from: wouanagaine on January 28, 2008, 12:43:16 AM
ALT-PRINTSCREEN capture the active window only whereas PRINTSCREEN capture the whole desktop. This is a Windows behavior, not clip2pic btw



ah cool i didn't know that.

another question:
The RCI meter is that based on the Drives or Demand? Cos i dont see any Demand for the CS§ CS§§ and CS§§§ on the repository.
I've been playing the map for a little while now. and added a new town to the south. Now my CS§ drives is through the roof. But there is no demand? So what's best to do? Take a whole area and fill it with lo-dence commercial? (They tend to fill up with medium wealth pretty quick though)
Or just keep on going and just let those sims "drives" all they want.
Title: Re: low educated ppl want HT jobs
Post by: xxdita on January 28, 2008, 03:56:38 AM
The RCI meter is based on demand. But demand is based on drives to an extent. So, yes.  ???
If you take a look at this thread (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=1878.0) you'll see that the WF drives are all over 100%, to quote RippleJet in that thread, "The total of each row is between 140% and 165%, telling you that people can accept more than one type of occupation."
Lower wealth RCI has the lowest chance of growing if conditions are right for a higher wealth to grow instead (demand, caps, etc). So you can take measures to prevent higher wealths from growing by setting up the area to be the kind of area a C$ would be found in. No fire protection, no parks, etc. Basically, a slum. You can check your Desirability Data Views before zoning to get a fairly good picture of which wealth level would grow in a new zone.