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Title: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on March 30, 2008, 03:19:26 AM
These Cathedral have been tempting me for a while, been seeing it out the window for the last year and for my first 16 years.
The construction of the church is believed to start around 1170 with the choir. The church was almost finish in 1282 except the northern tower and the vault between the two towers. As it stands now, it has done since 1924, where Christian IX's chapel where finished.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg530.imageshack.us%2Fimg530%2F6103%2Frosdom1dz8.jpg&hash=af7f876b9cdb02d81da1b206e916b0e95de76921)
Well the octagonal burial place outside the chuch was finished in 1985.

You can find some more pictures of Roskilde Cathedral here. (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Roskilde_domkirke) Its a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

Here is how far I have got now:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR8-1.jpg&hash=39020a8c16e3a66828ab46a4f52970a4afbdd4b8)
Most of the model is just boxes to get the sizes of the church and the different chapels in place.

Wikipedia on Roskilde Cathedral (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roskilde_Domkirke)

Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: TheTeaCat on March 30, 2008, 07:10:31 AM
Well thats an excellent start of a very impressive building &apls

:satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: threeswept on March 30, 2008, 08:28:18 AM
Yes, I agree...great start! And, one can never have enough cathedrals in ones cities, now can they. I'm really drawn to the architecture of this particular one, too!
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on March 30, 2008, 08:30:04 AM
Thank you both.

Here is a little update, showing the Cathedral from the games 4 views:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR8.jpg&hash=0984d6150fe7c1bdabab092498a92eff376a5a35)

Have moved Frederik V's Chapel, the one with the dome out 2 meters from the church to correspond with RL.
Have mostly worked on the Magi chapel, the one next to Frederik V's.
The church is 88 meters long, 68 meters wide and 75 meters high.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: jeronij on March 30, 2008, 09:16:55 AM
This is a quite ambitious project, and the start is great so far  :thumbsup:

I'll keep an eye on this development  ;D
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Pat on March 30, 2008, 01:41:53 PM
Vester you caught my attention here with this wonderful Catherdral....  I love Cathedral's in general, their design is just so breath taking and I cant wait to see what you do...
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on April 09, 2008, 01:16:53 PM
Thanks for your comments.

Haven't been trying to get the dimensions right for the last chapel, but I just can't make it work together with the rest of the church.

Here is a picture of the last chapel (the Glücksborgian chapel):

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg84.imageshack.us%2Fimg84%2F787%2Fp4090046crr2vq7.jpg&hash=0c8fdd23115eae7df331927a794296c0e5a538da)
Taken today in some of the last light today.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Pat on April 09, 2008, 01:41:33 PM
Vester that pic you took looks real sweet and I do hope you can get the angle worked out..
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: rooker1 on April 10, 2008, 05:59:47 AM
Very nice picture vester.  Any new pictures on where you are at with the Cathedral.

Robin  :)
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on April 20, 2008, 12:53:52 PM
Here is an update for you:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR09-1.jpg&hash=c131bd39546f5f06138cf137dcc073ec1661a086)

Have reworked this last chapel a few.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Pat on April 20, 2008, 01:31:22 PM
Vester that is looking real good and the shape seems to flow a bit better!!!!
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: CabraBuitre on April 20, 2008, 03:30:58 PM
Looks good Vester!  I look forward to seeing it progress!
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on April 23, 2008, 01:43:50 PM
Nothing much to show, but here is a small update:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg2.myimg.de%2FRDMR10a7a3f.jpg&hash=55849f446b602e7c7adec6bf249f45d66387ab10)

Trying different ways to add windows the round wall on the chapel:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg2.myimg.de%2F8455399rse63fd.jpg&hash=a4a95b25640be6912eef34c048e1b6dddbc455c3)
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on April 26, 2008, 01:34:11 PM
A little update:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR11-1.jpg&hash=4815875a83fd7faa63aef37669983b5290127f06)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR11-2.jpg&hash=7824d87b43e556f1d8ffe66bd81f20618d5abd37)
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: ScottFTL on April 26, 2008, 02:29:04 PM

This is looking wonderful, Vester!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: lerist on April 26, 2008, 02:47:37 PM
Like what I see so far  &apls
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on April 27, 2008, 10:49:39 AM
Have added textures to the chapel:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR12.jpg&hash=f04ba973c578df1f75c76f0932ee507ef70f87bd)

It was pain in the ***, to add textures to the roofs on the corners. Using the normal UVW Maps was no option.
Had to use separate texture for it and just apply it with out an UVW-map, and work with the tiling.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Andreas on April 27, 2008, 11:02:29 AM
I can imagine that the complicated shape was a huge amount of work, but wow, it looks great with textures, even though they will receive some more adjustments. :)
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: N1_2888 on April 27, 2008, 12:05:27 PM
As I've just read this cathedral was the first built in Brick Gothic style. And it seems that this BAT will also be the first of this style in SC4. :) Keep at it! ;)
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Glenni on April 28, 2008, 09:05:04 AM
Ah yes, Arne, this looks really good, i wonder how you did the round windows though?

I have always had trouble trying to make windows for round or otherwise irregularely shaped BATs... :(
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on April 28, 2008, 11:09:30 AM
I guess you mean the window holes in the round wall.

After a suggestion from Callagrax, I used ProBoolean.
With I made a negative mesh for the holes. Then I moved the pivot (base point for an element) to the center for the building. Then I array it around and finally I used the ProBoolean.

Don't have anything progress to show, so you will have to do with the spring picture:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FP4280244rs.jpg&hash=bf74e00542ae67ea7b270dea396bd378c6d2345a)
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Citynut on April 28, 2008, 12:32:06 PM
I like what I see so far look forward to your next update  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Pat on April 28, 2008, 09:52:05 PM
Vester love the texturing to the chapel there!!! also the RL pics...
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on May 04, 2008, 04:16:18 AM
Have started working on the western portal:

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR13-1.jpg&hash=7053700d208065ee1df39f3aa588d2e855cce69d)



Here is a RL picture for you all to enjoy:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FP5030508rs.jpg&hash=89191202198c8e6c7d76a4eb758d2bf146e63689)

The small building in the foreground of the picture is a spring. There is a quite a few springs in the city.
Part of the city name means spring: Kilde = Spring
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on May 05, 2008, 05:19:49 PM
Have been working on the entrance:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR14.jpg&hash=92fdaca23da9ba996e19b8de157277a260689d20)
Still some work to be done. Need to split some of the parts in two to get the textures in place.

Another RL picture, this one from inside the church, in the southern side of the choir:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FP5040519rs.jpg&hash=64926f3c5e2cc51e643ce0372f1e83fd7be18bae)
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Unassigned on May 12, 2008, 07:49:51 AM
Impressive work and surely we need to have this national monument in an SC4 version!
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on May 12, 2008, 08:44:59 AM
Thank you.

Have been working on the western portal:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR15.jpg&hash=066f0f9f0a8266e8e5bd36b1e65f64e2339e693b)

Have worked on the brick textures, removing some new bricks, which stood out from the rest. Darken a bit. There are part that still uses the lighter, but reworked texture, just to make the stand out. Areas which by the way earlier have been plastered, and if you know it you can still see traces of it.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: yoshiisland2 on May 13, 2008, 03:24:02 AM
The detailing on that Cathedral is amazing! :o  Please, don't ever stop working on my account. $%Grinno$% &apls
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on May 13, 2008, 08:06:29 AM
Quote from: yoshiisland2 on May 13, 2008, 03:24:02 AM
Please, don't ever stop working on my account. $%Grinno$% &apls

Okay I will continue.....  :P

Here is a RL picture from the inside of the three big windows seen in the picture above:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FP5040521rs.jpg&hash=1eada297fa9da2e079149fe93bff8c1133d4bc0d)
Title: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on May 25, 2008, 08:04:30 AM
Have started to add details and textures to the northern tower:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR16.jpg&hash=d41f559478868efd3040762431866024ce2cc915)
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Heblem on May 25, 2008, 09:33:25 AM
its looking great, I like the details of the windows...

the brick texture of the (small chapel?) doesn't fit with the church not sure if thats how the original is.. I suggest you using that same texture with photoshop and change the opacity to a bit darker.

take care
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on May 25, 2008, 01:12:46 PM
There is a difference between the bricks use on the cathedral and on the chapel.
There is about 500 years between the northern tower and the chapel, even more with the southern tower and more as one go east toward the choir.
The chapel was built in the early 20th century, where the northern tower was finished around 1400, the southern was finish before a big fire in 1282.

Well, maybe the difference is a little to big. 

I will try darken the texture and maybe turn up the saturation.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: DebussyMan on May 25, 2008, 04:04:05 PM
The cathedral is taking great shape. I've love the detail you've put on the towers and the chapelle  :thumbsup:
Title: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on May 27, 2008, 11:00:02 AM
Thanks DebussyMan.

Here is an update picture:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR17.jpg&hash=f744be1c77480d94df7581efd3f0f2c41f271f26)

Done with the western wall on the northern tower, except the "crown".
Have also added windows to the chapels and then I have add a little extra.
I think you should have a look for yourself and see what I am talking about.

Have changed uvw map for the brick texture to 150 %.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Unassigned on May 27, 2008, 11:40:45 AM
The textured bits look very much like the real thing. &apls

Soon as I'm able I'll go have a look at the cathedral & bring my laptop so I can compare it to your amazing work.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Andreas on May 27, 2008, 12:27:16 PM
It's probably a bit too saturated for the game, but wow, that's photorealistic. :)
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on May 27, 2008, 12:36:34 PM
Quote from: Unassigned on May 27, 2008, 11:40:45 AM
The textured bits look very much like the real thing. &apls
I cut it out of a picture of the cathedral. Did a little copy and paste, to cover some newly replaced bricks.

Maybe some light from another angle would help you see it. It's one of the few things not in shades.
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR17-1.jpg&hash=85277f3a6199b39d9f3273b88640f8553b75d5d4)

Andreas, at the moment I just modelling. Later I will work some more on the textures.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: BarbyW on May 27, 2008, 02:37:48 PM
This is looking excellent and I love the detailing you are doing.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: TheTeaCat on May 27, 2008, 04:18:16 PM
fabulously stunning work here &apls

I'm very impressed by what you have achieved so far. Wonderful detailing too &apls &apls

:satisfied:
TTC
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on May 28, 2008, 12:04:42 PM
Thanks Barby and TTC


Zooming in:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR17-1z.jpg&hash=50f1c5c046f0f7b0bffcce7d1c9af03161eeed50)

Well it was the ladder on the back side of the chapel I was thinking of. It's for the fire fighters, so they can get access to the roof construction.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: paroch on May 31, 2008, 12:37:39 AM
Hi Arne,

It's hard to say anything other than - WOW.

This really is an amazing piece of work.  The brick texture you've got there is divine.  And the level of detail on that last zoom in pic is stunning.

This is one I cannot wait to see in-game. 

Now, will there be somewhere to park the tram  ;) $%Grinno$% ;)

Great work,

Paul
Title: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on June 03, 2008, 09:52:28 AM
Thank you, Paul.

Here is a little update:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR19-1.jpg&hash=bc9d33042988ba5e659e2d11b7c3b25988388908)

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR19-2.jpg&hash=c9977db295fffbcce8075da26510b3462ea32d6f)
Done with the walls on the towers. Still need to get the roofs and foundation in place, but that will have to wait for later.
Need to add some details on the crowns (the top of the walls, just below the roofs.)

EDIT: Just looked up the word. It's not crowns but battlements. Kroner is translated to crowns as well, but not in this connection.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: kimcar on June 03, 2008, 10:13:10 AM
 &apls &apls Great progress on your work Vester . Can`t wait for the final result . :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on June 03, 2008, 02:29:15 PM
Thanks kimcar.

A restoration work is going on, so the back side of the cathedral is closed off until some in the autumn :(
I will try to get as long as I can with the rest. Then do the last chapel when the open the area again. The last chapel really have some details going on:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg512.imageshack.us%2Fimg512%2F4293%2F5128262214db6667fcoiz3.jpg&hash=5c3604ae136771fd196c835ef906d88484922f8c)

BTW: There is a lot of "small" differences between the two towers.
Can you spot some of them ?
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: paroch on June 03, 2008, 02:39:37 PM
Hi Arne,

Great work there - I'm sure that only took you 5 or 10 minutes  ;)

I think I spot some of the differences on the towers.  Some of the windows are slightly different sizes, including the circle ones at the top.  And some of the bits that jut out have one "triangle" on top anf others have two.  (You can tell from my detailed architectural terms that I am an expert!)

If there is an advance list of testers for this amazing creation, put me on it!!

All the best

Paul
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Diggis on June 04, 2008, 12:04:27 AM
Can't wait to see you tackle that last chappel.  :D It's absolutly beautiful.

The rest of the cathedral is coming along nicely.  &apls
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: krbe on June 04, 2008, 02:22:16 AM
I took the trip yesterday, (my Unesco Heritage Site day $%Grinno$%) and boy is this beautiful. A little cleaner than the original, but still. :P
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: threeswept on June 04, 2008, 05:37:54 PM
Oops...excuse me while I pick my jaw up from the floor! The brick detail is pretty incredible...love it!
Title: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on June 08, 2008, 12:59:41 PM
Thanks for the all comments. They are appreciated.

Started working on the Magi Chapel on south side of the church.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR20-1.jpg&hash=662d79240277b3fb4deaf51cb470406054480860)
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: paroch on June 08, 2008, 01:23:12 PM
It is great to watch this beauty develop here Arne.  Magi Chapel is looking sweet.

Good luck with the next phase - and please keep the pics coming, I am enjoying follwing this. :thumbsup:

Paul
Title: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on June 09, 2008, 02:12:56 PM
Here is an update just for you Paul:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR21.jpg&hash=994ba5e6eaef8c0caddaa873371b4f0b9438297e)

The roof texture is still not the final, just a test one. It's either going to be replaced or reworked.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: paroch on June 09, 2008, 02:19:07 PM
Nice one Arne.  The small bit next to the Magi, I wonder what it is.....the vestry maybe???

I assume the roof texture will be a bit more green, like a lead roof?

And I'm looking forward to see the domed roof to the right of the Magi take on its texture. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on June 09, 2008, 02:28:18 PM
Quote from: paroch on June 09, 2008, 02:19:07 PM
The small bit next to the Magi, I wonder what it is.....the vestry maybe???
Nahh, its a porch.

Quote from: paroch on June 09, 2008, 02:19:07 PM
I assume the roof texture will be a bit more green, like a lead roof?
Green like lead ? Copper is green, lead is green. This is zinc roofs. Its not going to be green.
Not sure lead has been used as roofing. More for fittings around the edges.

Quote from: paroch on June 09, 2008, 02:19:07 PM
And I'm looking forward to see the domed roof to the right of the Magi take on its texture. :thumbsup:
Ahh the Chapel of Frederik V. So am I :P
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Diggis on June 10, 2008, 03:37:42 AM
This is turning into a stunning building, and taking a lot less time for you to do than the 800 years it originally has taken (so far  :D)

The roof is a little bright though, maybe some good ole industrial revolution grime will help.
Title: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on June 11, 2008, 11:06:57 PM
Have been working a little on a new texture for the roof:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR22-2.jpg&hash=931795e02bc617ba6a480fd0724cd67b6e070d34)

It's cut out of picture of another church here in Roskilde, the church of Our Lady.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: kimcar on June 13, 2008, 05:30:12 PM
I prefer from far this new texture. Great choice &apls &apls Just a question, what`s happenning with your little boat , is this project is on side for the moment or what ? Thanks for youjr answer and your work  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: paroch on June 18, 2008, 11:12:12 PM
Hi Arne,

I agree with Kim, new texture looks better  :thumbsup:

Good luck with the next phase.

Paul
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: flame1396 on June 27, 2008, 12:07:52 PM
The skill showcased in this bat is undeniable. Wow.  &apls
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Earth quake on June 28, 2008, 01:31:20 AM
Wow, Fantastic

Excellent work and there texture, I love.
This Cathedral is realy wonderfull.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on July 11, 2008, 01:31:44 PM
Thanks you both for your comments.

Got back batting:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR25.jpg&hash=9e6a95fe14e3e8928ee8188b934bbef55d3885a6)

I got started on the Christian IV's chapel:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR25z1.jpg&hash=419eb00895e0b96540d4f81fc89179d537bd80eb)
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Unassigned on July 11, 2008, 01:35:23 PM
Your work is astounding, am very much looking forward to seeing the spires textured.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Swesim on July 13, 2008, 01:24:43 AM
I just stumbled in here via Your GLR thread and I must say it´s among the best I´ve seen for a long time.
It just keep getting better for every part You texture, I wish I had the patience You display here...
//Fredrik
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: superhands on July 13, 2008, 01:44:58 AM
vester, upon resuming sc4 the other day i found my trams had been refitted! this cathedral is one to watch! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: jacqulina on July 13, 2008, 04:07:48 AM
awesome work there &apls &apls
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: paroch on July 13, 2008, 09:35:24 AM
Hi Arne,

Great to see some more progress, and that chapel is looking very good indeed.

Paul
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on July 14, 2008, 01:23:31 PM
Thanks for your comments.

After a lot of try and error, I finally got a bit further on with the "edge" around the walls at the top of the column.
First I tried out using the loft function and got a rather strange result, going all over the place,
Then I tried out some box modelling, but got some strange shadow problem.
Then I gave the loft function another try:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR27.jpg&hash=59193437b22e0a6ddbbeced567cdd767e6b453cc)
FINALLY!
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: paroch on July 14, 2008, 01:51:01 PM
That texture is looking very sweet indeed.  They say Rome wasn't built in a day, well neither was Roskilde  ;) :D

Paul
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on July 14, 2008, 02:58:48 PM
After trying to get the columns to work, I remember some 3ds models I got from swi21 and replaced the columns:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR27-2.jpg&hash=b7946aa78ccf00f2cb6bebbda2d175f6b679e408)
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: N1_2888 on July 14, 2008, 03:38:05 PM
It's great that you let us take part in the progress of creating this grand (nice ambiguous meaning of that word ;) ) BAT.
Title: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on July 15, 2008, 11:34:45 AM
Thanks N1.

Here is a quick update before its time to pack my bags. Off for a few days.

(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR28.jpg&hash=9d358cc359b2bf40718fec922828b8f58e0c8710)

and the same from the game perspective:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_MR28-gpe.jpg&hash=a194e07bc69dcbb5a7de2cf621e52a38b41772ee)
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: DebussyMan on July 15, 2008, 03:25:52 PM
Truly small detailing, I love it.  ;D Even though it won't be appearing in game, it's always nice to know it is there.

BTW,  how did you make the strips and triglyphs on the corbels and friezes? you used bumpmaps or are they hand modelled?

Just one more thing: it looks like the friezes along the walls (the ones you mention you had problems making them with loft) are wrongly smoothed, you should try clearing their smoothing groups so they show well.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on July 24, 2008, 08:57:46 AM
Here is another update for you all:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FChrIVKapelR03e.jpg&hash=f621879e000a57898ce6b9ef032631c4840ffd8b)

Nothing much to see, but a lot of "try and error".
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Andreas on July 24, 2008, 02:11:10 PM
It's too bad that all those wonderful details won't be much more than a pixel or two in the game.  &mmm Keep up your great work, though, it's more than mouthwatering. :)
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Diggis on July 24, 2008, 02:31:47 PM
Great work Arne.  The statues look great.  Pity so much detail is lost, although if it was shown, we'd probably just model another level again wouldn't we?
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: paroch on July 24, 2008, 03:05:00 PM
Those little statues are looking great there Arne.  The detail you put in is amazing.

Paul
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: tag_one on July 25, 2008, 04:40:53 AM
Amazing details Arne  &apls
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: rooker1 on July 25, 2008, 04:51:26 AM
This is going to be your best work ever.
&apls
Robin  :thumbsup:
Title: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on July 25, 2008, 05:59:18 AM
Thanks guys. Your comments are very appreciated.

Quote from: Diggis on July 24, 2008, 02:31:47 PM
Great work Arne.  The statues look great.  Pity so much detail is lost, although if it was shown, we'd probably just model another level again wouldn't we?
Sometimes, one just wish, that there was a proper zoom 6 or maybe even a zoom 7.

Got some work done last night:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FChrIVKapelR04e2.jpg&hash=d7536c7b28d614d0ee657144f6c93df57ca8b860)
Now its just a question if I continue upwards or with the windows....
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Jmouse on July 25, 2008, 11:44:22 AM
Starting at the beginning and reading through this entire thread has been a surprising and delightful pleasure, Arne. This is, indeed, an ambitious project and a joy to behold, even in its early stages. Thank you for inviting me over for a visit - you now have a new loyal fan who will enjoy watching the rest of the process unfold! :)

Later...
Joan
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: paroch on July 25, 2008, 12:03:18 PM
The details are all looking good.  I have never used the BAT so it's difficult for me to give advice from a "technical" point of view....... but from a fan watching, I'd say finish the detail on this wall before moving on.

Paul
Title: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on July 25, 2008, 12:21:54 PM
Good to see you here Joan.

Well here is something from the Cathedrals homepage.
Quote
Christian 4.s Kapel, ca. 1620. Nederlandsk renæssance. Kvindefigurerne langs gavlen symboliserer de syv kristne dyder, øverst står Retfærdigheden med vægt og sværd. Ved siden af vinduerne står fire små drengebørn med hver sit dødssymbol. Det viser at bygningen er et gravkapel. De indhuggede årstal angiver tidspunkter for restaurering.

My best translation:
Quote
Christian 4's chapel is from approx 1620, Dutch renaissance.
The women figurs in the gable symbolizes the seven christianize virtues. At the top with scale and sword is Justice.
Next to the windows is four small boys with each with a different symbol of death. This shows that the building is a burial chapel.
The in carve years states years for restorations. (1734 and 1833)

Have worked a little more one it:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FChrIVKapelR05e.jpg&hash=c99f1341acb41ba573b3b5f46898db50cbd8439b)
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: paroch on July 25, 2008, 12:57:56 PM
Wow Arne - the detail is amazing.  And that is on part of the building you CANNOT see from your window :D  What level of detail is going to occur on the bits that you can stare at from your window all day ;) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on July 25, 2008, 01:07:45 PM
Quote from: paroch on July 25, 2008, 12:57:56 PM
Wow Arne - the detail is amazing.  And that is on part of the building you CANNOT see from your window :D  What level of detail is going to occur on the bits that you can stare at from your window all day ;) :thumbsup:

Can't even get to that part due to restorations of the roof and the chapel.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: kimcar on July 25, 2008, 01:47:45 PM
 &apls &apls Great progress that you have done . It`s true that`s a pitty to not see all the detail , cause they are amazing. Keep it up
Title: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on July 25, 2008, 04:49:58 PM
Thanks Kimcar.

Getting the framework in place for the gable:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FChrIVKapelR06e.jpg&hash=fe7ba01d2ac374688f03a223f1169faec0debc00)


Here is a picture of the real thing, as it look like from a kayak:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2F4839510rs.jpg&hash=1ebaa35775da6f4b05d2c7fbf83d8116eaf1cdcc)
I do kayaking, but its not my picture.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Jmouse on July 25, 2008, 06:12:16 PM
Arne, it's fascinating to see how the mechanics of the different elements come together as you develop them. It is by studying the work of masters like you that beginners like me can better understand the basics of what's appropriate when and where. I'm so glad you decided to share your creation process.

Later...
Joan

Title: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on July 26, 2008, 10:08:49 AM
Thanks Joan. Master ? Well thanks you.

Want to show you a bit different view for this update:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FChrIVKapelR07L.jpg&hash=9573e9c16a0a904d246af2d7f5a46a6b6ece26ab)

ahh well, here you go, a more normal view:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FChrIVKapelR07e.jpg&hash=5b3dfbccd7cee5e3a7dcdda3ca96bfbbd771cc40)

Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Unassigned on July 26, 2008, 10:11:50 AM
Words fail me.  &apls &apls &apls &apls &apls
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: tag_one on July 27, 2008, 12:54:28 AM
You are doing a wonderful job on this Arne! Every update you make is a pleasure for the eye  :thumbsup:
Title: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on July 27, 2008, 02:57:03 PM
Thanks for your comments.

Still working on the gable:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FChrIVKapelR09c2DoF.jpg&hash=a80649fedb592c9d23d6f637168ded4df61910c4)
... and have started playing around with the camera settings. Well this Depth of Fields takes 12 rendering, instead of just one.

Here is a close-up of the gable:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FChrIVKapelR09c2.jpg&hash=780f326ad8112b527aae64f373b2cb9a9cc7895f)
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Diggis on July 28, 2008, 09:19:46 AM
Great level of detail there Arne.  Is that the final texture on the cornices and statues etc?
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Jmouse on July 28, 2008, 10:18:38 AM
Seeing the gable change from a clown-colored model into a beautifully-textured work of art is amazing! Stunning workmanship.

Later...
Joan
Title: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: vester on February 04, 2009, 03:06:20 PM
It's been a while. I started working a little on this.

Here is a quick update:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FRD_Chr_IVs_R02.jpg&hash=eac58fdbe7bc971f21a2de3d03309ab83023154e)

Have extracted the chapel into a separate model.

Here is a picture from inside the chapel:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe242%2Fvester_DK%2FRoskildeDomkirke%2FIMG_1978.jpg&hash=b72fba3cd3656084e4807d02a5fa5f8f26488dd6)
That is just paint on a flat surface. Amazing, right ?

This is "just" a painting as well:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fc%2Fcf%2FRD_marstrand.jpg&hash=925c062335a9b57d93707561afd5d500bc33e944)
this includes the columns ect. as well.

Here is a picture (http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8274/p3220078rsse5.jpg) of the cathedral last year. Well the scaffolding is finally coming down :D
... and the backside will no longer be a construction site. That means I can get some good pictures of my own of this chapel I am working on.
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Pat on February 05, 2009, 03:15:59 PM
Hey vester it has been a wee while but hey they say good things come to those who wait right??? BTW its looking real great there!!!
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: kimcar on February 05, 2009, 06:41:28 PM
 &apls &apls Great render for that one. Still a lot of work to do ,  hum ! Hope to see it soon. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Roskilde Cathedral
Post by: Orange_o_ on February 11, 2009, 06:27:42 AM


oh yes i like your chapel, but i think that the roof is not ended  :thumbsup: