You have probably seen my cricket lot which is currently up for candidacy. One of the people who assisted me greatly with that lot was Diggis who put together the oval fence that surrounds the pitch.
Diggis is currently working on some synthetic pitches to create some alternate cricket lots.
Paroch has also some ideas regarding variations to existing sporting lot props, tennis courst etc, as well as some new sporting lots not previously seen in the game.
The lots will be a joint effort between us NUTs and Diggis, who has offerred his skills to help us out with some prop creations. It's only fair he receives equal recognition.
We have set no time frame around this project, but will keep you informed of developments.
Perhaps the group could be called the "NUTty Kiwi" ::)
The team name seems a bit redundant. :P
hehe, it is stating the obvious I guess $%Grinno$% Nope, I wipe those thoughts from my mind, Diggis is a valued member of the team, and I will try to set aside all inbred bigotries. Jeez I'm struggling already ::)
Quote from: xxdita on April 26, 2008, 04:47:02 AM
The team name seems a bit redundant. :P
Unless the "T" means "twentyeight" ::)
interesting project. good luck!
Hmmm, I don't believe I said that Diggis was a full member of the NUTs team ???. This is a partnership between NUTs and Diggis to produce a series of lots with equal billing.
Now if when he turns 30, Diggis would like to join the team. we would be happy to consider.
PS: Sorry caspervg, missed you post. Thanks for the support.
So still more than a year before he can be certifiably NUTs. (https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi91.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk301%2Fditareinvented%2FMonkeys%2Fththlmao-rofl-lol.gif&hash=5ff36b018d9e004907998ec34653731cf5f839b1)
No, he already is certifiably nuts, a year or more til he's officially NUTs :D
Gee thanks guys, I think... &mmm
On that note, how's this look? Bear in mind this was a quicky knocked up for effect. I'll sort out some wear and tear, and some variations soon. This one is brand new. ;)
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I've got no lighting in there or anything so need to check that too. Then we'll see how green we get it. I also need to do some with that very Naff lime green you get, plus some school ones with holes through to the concrete bedding. :D
Shaun,
That looks good to me, nice job. I think that the texture would also work well for the grass tennis court.
Great start Shaun. Looking forward to the school ones. :thumbsup:
By the way, is it possible to have some half pitches, you might recall my idea re the practice nets.
Dave
Nice looking grass texture there!! :thumbsup:
Quote from: tooheys on April 27, 2008, 02:31:23 AM
Great start Shaun. Looking forward to the school ones. :thumbsup:
By the way, is it possible to have some half pitches, you might recall my idea re the practice nets.
Dave
Yeah, was thinking about those too. I'm going to do up a few varieties, but now I have the basic size and layout done should be easy enough. :thumbsup:
heheh uummm yea you lot are NUTs that is all I got to say about it lol :D OK anywho Diggis that is looking real nice so far!!!!
Dave will probably kill me for doing this while he is asleep, but first draft at some quality cricket nets
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I'm going to do it in pieces so that we can assemble as many as we need and so we can put people inside. I haven't tested the scale in game yet though.
Oh yes, that is looking sweet. Nice work Shaun.
I have no idea how you do that, but it is very detailed.
Its 2 basic shapes with some stretching applied. And a material with mesh only to creat the netting. Very simple although thinking of a few other tricks to try.
One thing that would be VERY useful for the tennis courts we have in mind would be a wire mesh fence, similar to PEG's one already out there, except being modular so that it can be big enought to go around multiple courts. Can you picture the municipal parks with two, three or four courts side by side with just one big fence round the whole thing.
Could the same theory for the cricket nets be applied to that?
Daaaaaaaaaang Diggis that is looking sweet and beside I really dont think that Dave is sleeping lol...
Paroch, I don't see any reason why not. I'll do it in 4m segments with an 8m double piece too, and maybe a corner piece as they are always a pain to do right.
Do you need nets too? Or are the in game ones ok?
Well Shaun, seeing as you're asking!!!!....... I guess new nets would be nice! I'm not sure that the in-game Maxis ones are "stand-alone" so may not work for what we have in mind anyway.
Cheers,
Paul
Quote from: Pat on April 28, 2008, 12:16:02 PM
Daaaaaaaaaang Diggis that is looking sweet and beside I really dont think that Dave is sleeping lol...
Pat, 20 minutes to midnight, believe me when I say I was asleep. Unlike Joan, who at that time is usually settling down to watch a late night movie ;) Shaun, the nets look sweet, can't wait to put these to use. Just flick them our way when you're ready and we'll have a look at them ingame.
Just hope we can put some lots together that do your bats credit.
Dave
Quote from: paroch on April 28, 2008, 01:00:42 PM
Well Shaun, seeing as you're asking!!!!....... I guess new nets would be nice! I'm not sure that the in-game Maxis ones are "stand-alone" so may not work for what we have in mind anyway.
Cheers,
Paul
Well I have sent you your fences. Let me know what you think. I'll cut the nets up tonight and get them through too.
Quote from: tooheys on May 01, 2008, 03:31:19 AM
Pat, 20 minutes to midnight, believe me when I say I was asleep. Unlike Joan, who at that time is usually settling down to watch a late night movie ;) Shaun, the nets look sweet, can't wait to put these to use. Just flick them our way when you're ready and we'll have a look at them ingame.
Just hope we can put some lots together that do your bats credit.
Dave
Hehe, I had a chat to her the other day and it was 2am her time. She was just working on her house. :thumbsup:
LoL Shaun and Dave you 2 are NUTs alright :D Any progress at all dave??
Plenty Pat, but nothing to look at yet. Shaun is working hard on some new cricket props and we are starting to work on the design for the next cricket ground.
Paul has a few ideas he's working on as well.
Hopefully some pics over the next week or two.
Cheers
Dave
Little present for you boys:
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I'll check the files tomorrow and send them out to you.
oooooooooooh, NICE.
Now I can just guess that our American friends will be thinking "what on earth is that" (probably much like half the England team :D )
Woohoo, nice nets there, Diggis. :thumbsup:
You are so right about what "our American friends will be thinking," Paul! I thought the nets were supposed to be on the ground stretched across the middle of the courts, but guess I'm a bit out of the loop when it comes to sports! ;D
OK, five seconds of "serious:" Looking good, Shaun, and thank you for all your help!
Now that's enough of that...
Jm
Looking good whatever that is supposed to be!!! :D
Hey Diggis... those are cool nets.
OK, for our World Series loving friends who only play themselves :D these are cricket practice nets. Basically there to stop people having to chase the ball. I've rendered these in 3 parts: The end, the top and the side so that I can encase a player inside them. With those 3 pieces, and a couple of wickets I'm still to sort out we will be able to make as many nets as we need.
Graet work Shaun, now we have somewhere to practice :thumbsup:
There's only one thing missing:
The hideous astroturf that is virtually necessary in the bottom of those nets. :P I've never seen a cricket net without an astroturf base... I mean, they don't play on real grass in the nets - it'd be extremely difficult to maintain. ;)
Quote from: Shadow Assassin on May 12, 2008, 05:32:18 AM
There's only one thing missing:
The hideous astroturf that is virtually necessary in the bottom of those nets. :P I've never seen a cricket net without an astroturf base... I mean, they don't play on real grass in the nets - it'd be extremely difficult to maintain. ;)
Oh, you mean this?
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Quote from: Shadow Assassin on May 12, 2008, 05:32:18 AM
There's only one thing missing:
The hideous astroturf that is virtually necessary in the bottom of those nets. :P I've never seen a cricket net without an astroturf base... I mean, they don't play on real grass in the nets - it'd be extremely difficult to maintain. ;)
Now come on SA, do you really think we'd overlook the pitch $%Grinno$%.
Shaun, everything fits together nicely:thumbsup: I know you are still working on these and a few more variations as well, can't wait for the end result and we get the chance to put together some more cricket lots. You're certainly earning your money (well substitute money for nuts :)).
Dave
*Still scratches head* Heheheeh looking real good here still!!!
BTW for the combined effort here you all now have the 5 star Michelin rating you deserve!!!
These look great, but would it be to hard to ask for some more batsmen variety.
Like, have the bowler down the pitch and the batsmen halfway thorough a pull shot, a cut shot or something similar.
But these look really good anyway.
At the moment we are using the set Lee did for his ground. I'm not good with modellng people but I might ask some questions. ;)
OK, was not sure whether to post here or in the Paroch Random Stuff thread, but thought it was time for the sports academy to resurface!!
Shaun kindly put together some tennis textures and props.
The Maxis tennis court was starting to bore me to pieces! Peg did a great job with his tennis park and those green fences - but even they were based the Maxis tennis court. There are a few others out there, but the vast majority use the maxis green and pink combo.
I think it was Yoder who put some tennis stadia together with blue courts, but I wanted to see some gritty realism. Concrete courts are derigeur in English municipal parks. Usually they are not brilliantly cared for, with torn nets, leaves piled up in the corner and holes in the fences! And then of course there are clay courts, not so common in England but seein in France and Spain. And of course, tennis just wouldn't be tennis without some proper grass courts!
So, here is what I've lotted up so far:
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So in essence three textures - concrete, clay and grass and three sizes, single, double and treble.
A closer look shows the leaves piled up. Timed to appear in autumn and winter (nice thought Shaun).
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And closer again shows you the grittiness of the galvanised wire fences that is what I see in real life.
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Personally being a Brit I love the grass courts. Makes me think of Wimbledon!
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Notice the slightly worn patches - again a great idea from Shaun.
Here are two triple concrete sets placed in the BSC park setting. The gates are placed to line up with a central path.
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This is a 7x3 lot that is BSC Park Compliant and has a path with SG rose beds running along the courts, with the snack bar (and hire shop) placed between the courts. So you can hire a racket and buy a nice cold drink.
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And the same 7x3 set up with grass courts.
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And a little experiment placing the maxis basketball court over the top of Shaun's tennis textures.
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I'm thinking now, what would need to be packaged together to make a release of NUTs tennis courts. A set of 9 "standalone" courts (i.e concrete, clay, grass each in single, double and triple size) a couple of the 7x3 lots, but what else - or is that enough. Should I make more of the pre-lotted sets with courts plus other bits? I would hate to clog up the park menu even more than it already is, so I guess the user can delete the ones they don't want.
As always, I'd like to hear your thoughts and opinions, good, bad or indifferent!
Thanks,
Paul
The courts look great, Paul and Shaun! They put that poor little Maxis court to shame! ;) I would use the grey ones with white markings and no leaves - closer to my personal sense of realism. I see only a single and triple in this style, though.
IMO, you should put all the courts in one package and let the user choose which ones to keep.
Later...
Joan
These look excellent, Paul.
Excellent courts Paul (and Shaun too ;) )
I agree with Joan that this put the maxis courts far away in the shade.
I like the gravel ones and the green with gravel ones better. So I also agree with her that you just pack it all and let the user the choice which ones to load in the active plugins folder...
Excellent work with the courts. As a tennis fan myself, I am looking forward to their release. My only suggestion is to move the leaves toward the fences. They look a bit unnatural piled in the center. Other than that, excellent work.
Joan, Barby, Sebes and Matt - thanks for your comments and pointers.
Barby has helped me with the "foundations" of the lots - I'd created them in such a way that would not have been good in-game so she has changed the base building for me - thanks for your help I'd have hated to start from scratch again!
I've moved the piles of leaf litter to the corners, created a 4 court lot and also created two basketball courts. I'll just show the changes........
new 4 court plus re-aligned leaf litter:
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new basketball courts plus Maxis standard:
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Overview of the pack:
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The paths are BSC Park Compliant - which adds a dependancy but makes them so much more useful in my opinion.
They are pretty much self-tested as much as I can now. So I'll start on the readme and then ask my team mates to give them a test. And Matt, as a tennis fan you're welcome to help with the testing if you'd like - you can never have too many testers!
Dependencies are:
NUTs Prop Pack A
NUTs Essentials
SG vol 01
Maxis Buildings as Props vol 01
BSC Textures 01
BSC Textures 02
BSC Park Textures
I hope to have these ready for testing within the next 24 hours.
Paul
That will make a nice versatile variety pack, Paul. I might use the four-court enclosure with leaves - looks pretty good. Hope to see this on LEX soon - I know it will be very popular.
Later...
Joan
*Edit* Just read Matt's post, and I'd like to have a set as well. I'll spend much of next week finishing and testing all 18 MH lots, so I might as well throw in a few tennis courts while I'm about it!
JMS
Great work on these fields and pack there, paroch! Looking forward to the release... ;)
Paul that looks so good there!!! I have all those dependencies so that list is no bother to me YaY!!! I cant wait to get ahold of these wonderful cages....
Send them my way. As a tennis nut (if you'll pardon the pun) I'd love to give them a shot. I've thought about a few places to use them, now it's just a matter of finding the time to put them there. Just let me know what you need to get them to me, and what feedback you'd like the testing to focus on. Great work Paul.
-Matt
Great job on these guys, they'll certainly add some diversity.
These are looking really good, Paul! They will be very useful. &apls
Just to let you all know....... these have now been released on the LEX. Thanks for your input along the way.
How did I miss this? Off to download now... ;D
Very fine work &apls
very fine work on these tennis court &apls &apls
Thank you very much with all for your splendid work, these batches I use them in my town of Trieste east I am very happy!
They look very good - nice additions to parks.
Here's another simple idea: the multi sport court, increasingly popular in the UK. Same platform as the others, with the exception of a couple of alcoves each end to serve as 'goals', have both football (soccer) and basketball markings on asphalt (shockingly, they've realised that teenagers can cope with the occasional bump and scrape, so don't need to use the impact absorbing resin stuff!) Entrance is usually from the sides. Not floodlit (although it doesn't stop teens hanging round there after dark!). Here's a rough ASCII mockup:
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Evidently to accomodate the 'goals' you'd need to shrink the surrounding fencing slightly, but hopefully it might require little more than just creating a new texture and fiddling around with the existing fencing. And everything apart from the basketball back boards is chain link, to minimise maintenance and graffiti (the latter of which typically adorns most of the plastic and wooden surfaces in the adjacent kiddies playground).
Hi mittfh,
thanks for your post here. I know exactly the kind of thing you mean. The ones I have seen have a wooden fence around them about 3 to 4 feet tall at the sides and rising to about 8 feet behind the goal.
Shaun (Diggis) is the guy who made the props, fences and textures for the tennis lots, so I'll have a chat with him next time we get the drawing board out ;)
Thanks for the suggestion.
Paul