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Quote from: callagrafx on May 25, 2008, 10:28:05 AM
Here's a piece of trivia for you...Death is the only character to appear in all Discworld books except for The Wee Free Men (who are the single most hysterical creations of TPs since Sam Vimes).

So that makes Me, Barby, SA and Fred so far...We just need one more for a decent game of Cripple Mr Onion.

p.s. Fred, me you and Barby are going to bore the rest of them in July  :D :D

I don't think it's possible to be bored when Terry Pratchett is involved.  I was very saddened to learn of the onset of Alzheimer's.  :'(

And not only is death the only character to appear in all the books (although didn't realise he wasn't in wee free men, only read it once) but his is by far the best character.  The books where he is a main character are some of the best.  Loved Reaper Man.  It's what got me started.

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It is a fact that although the Death of the Discworld is, in his own words,
an ANTHROPOMORPHIC PERSONIFICATION, he long ago gave up using the
traditional skeletal horses, because of the bother of having to stop all
the time to wire bits back on.

OK being a yank here I am soo lost??

http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/discworld

http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/terry_pratchett

Quote from: callagrafx on May 25, 2008, 10:28:05 AM

So that makes Me, Barby, SA and Fred so far...We just need one more for a decent game of Cripple Mr Onion.

p.s. Fred, me you and Barby are going to bore the rest of them in July  :D :D

Deal me in!

btw, Lord Vetinari is in my opinion the best character...

Looks like it's going to be a mini DW convention...cool. 

Favourite Vetinari quote:  "taxation, gentlemen, is very much like dairy farming. The task is to extract the maximum amount of milk with the minimum of moo.  These days all I get is moo".

My favourite TP quote is from the man himself not a book:

QuoteI'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when
there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.

My fav TP quotes are

Quote
I must confess the the activities of the UK governments for the past couple
of years have been watched with frank admiration and amazement by Lord
Vetinari. Outright theft as a policy had never occured to him.

And

QuoteHave a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb --
they're often *students*, for heaven's sake.

:satisfied:
TTC

QuoteI've always thought the Patrician is a party animal. Can you imagine
waking up next day and remembering all those witty things you said and did, and then realising that he was listening?

QuoteAnkh-Morpork had dallied with many forms of government and had ended up with that form of democracy known as One Man, One Vote. The Patrician was the Man; he had the Vote.

Quote"It's going to look pretty good, then, isn't it," said War testily, "the One Horseman and Three Pedestrians of the Apocralypse."

Hah, I love some of those quotes. But a personal favourite of mine is:

QuoteThe world was blessedly free of honest men, and wonderfully free of people who believed they could tell the difference between an honest man and a crook.

QuoteOn the whole, witches despised fortune-telling from tea-leaves. Tea-leaves are not uniquely fortunate in knowing what the future holds. They are really just something for the eyes to rest on while the mind does the work. Practically anything would do. The scum on a puddle, the skin on a custard... anything. Nanny Ogg could see the future in the froth of a beermug. It invariably showed that she was going to enjoy a refreshing drink which she almost certainly was not going to pay for.

Hah!


Actually, this is my favourite. I love it.

QuoteLet's just say that if complete and utter chaos was lightning, he'd be the sort to stand on a hilltop in a thunderstorm wearing wet copper armour and shouting 'All gods are bastards'.

A classic:

QuoteGoddammit, Rincewind in not a cheese! Rincewind is not a yogurt or any kind of sour milk derivative! Rincewind is a bloody nuisance!

Hmm, Mature Rincewind... it certainly rolls off the tongue. :P

Oh, and Lee: are you familiar with http://cripplemronion.info/ ?

Er, it seems we've gone waaay off topic here... shall we start a Discworld thread somewhere? :P

Quote from: Shadow Assassin on May 26, 2008, 05:03:13 AM
Oh, and Lee: are you familiar with http://cripplemronion.info/ ?

Yep...found that a while ago but still haven't got me Fat Pack yet.

Quote from: Shadow Assassin on May 26, 2008, 05:03:13 AM
Er, it seems we've gone waaay off topic here... shall we start a Discworld thread somewhere? :P

Such is the Way of the Pratchett  :D  Might be a good idea.  :thumbsup:

Geez, you went so off-topic I had to split it up! ::)

Fred

This site never ceases to amaze: there are actual mensches here that have heard of Sam Vimes and Captain Carrot & his hirsuite girlfriend??  %wrd So how long before anyone will spot the fact that SC4 actualluy floats on the underbelly of the Great A'Tuin?

And yes please, let's have a DiscWorld modding thread - I really want to learn to build bridges over the Ankh (not that they are needed

how to cover up mistakes  :D :D

QuoteThere are no inconsistencies in the Discworld books; occasionally, however, there are alternate pasts. --Terry Pratchett.

:satisfied:
TTC

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how could I forget this $%Grinno$%

Quote"I meant," said Iplsore bitterly, "what is there in this world that makes living worthwhile?" Death thought about it. "CATS," he said eventually, "CATS ARE NICE."
    --Sourcery

QuoteAnd, currently, this being spring break, they were absent [senior faculty members, ed.]. And so where the students. The University was, therefore, running at near peak efficiency.
Science of the Discworld II

QuoteA large black and white cat had walked into the room.
"That's Mr Tiddles, sir," said Groat.
"Tiddles?", sadi Moist. "You mean that really is a cat's name? I thought it was just a joke."
"Not so much a name, sir, more of a description", said Groat.

Going Postal

I think I have all the books Terry Pratchett has written and I've always loved the computer (Hex) at the Unseen University especially in the Hogfather.

Quote`I don't actually think,' he said, gloomily, `that I want to tell the Archchancellor that this machine stops working if we take its fluffy teddy bear away. I just don't think I want to live in that kind of world.'
`Er,' said Mad Drongo, `you could always, you know, sort of say it needs to work with the FTB enabled ...?'

and they had the mini-series of the Hogfather on TV at Christmas the one with David Jason playing Albert.

loved it  :P

Quote from: callagrafx on May 25, 2008, 10:28:05 AM
Fred, me you and Barby are going to bore the rest of them in July  :D :D

Quote from: geoffhaw on May 25, 2008, 02:59:40 PM
Deal me in!

Count me in as well.

Well I only got to Wyrd Sisters.

"Real children don't go hoppity-skip unless they are on drugs."

    -- Susan, the ultimate sensible governess (Terry Pratchett, Hogfather)

QuoteTo look at him, you'd see a man who might well, if he fell over a cliff, have to stop and ask directions on the way down. - Thud

Quote from: Diggis on May 25, 2008, 12:48:01 PM
I don't think it's possible to be bored when Terry Pratchett is involved.  I was very saddened to learn of the onset of Alzheimer's.  :'(

And not only is death the only character to appear in all the books (although didn't realise he wasn't in wee free men, only read it once) but his is by far the best character.  The books where he is a main character are some of the best.  Loved Reaper Man.  It's what got me started.

This is the rumour as to why they are making the Wee Free Men into a feature length instead of countless other better choices (IMHO).. They worry that the anthromorphic personification of Death will scare children.

I absolutely ADORE Prachett. My little 3 year old boy gets read a little bit every night before he goes to bed and he actually begs me to play either the Hogswatch movie or the newer Colour of Magic when it's his video time.

Quote"Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure
sign of a diseased mind."
        -- Something that Terry feels strongly about, because a similar
           quote also appears in "Reaper Man"
           (Terry Pratchett, Eric)

After DEATH, I think my two favourites are Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg

Quotefrom Maskerade

The wind howled. The storm crackled on the mountains. Lightning prodded the crags like an old man trying to get an elusive blackberry pip out of his false teeth.
Among the hissing furze bushes a fire blazed, the flames driven this way and that by the gusts.
An eldritch voice shrieked: "When shall we...two...meet again?"
Thunder rolled.
A rather more ordinary voice said: "What'd you go and shout that for? You made me drop my toast in the fire."
Nanny Ogg sat down again.
"Sorry, Esme. I was just doing it for...you know...old time's sake...Doesn't roll off the tongue, though."
"I'd just got it nice and brown, too."
"Sorry."
"Anyway, you didn't have to shout."
"Sorry."
"I mean, I ain't deaf. You could've just asked me in a normal voice. And I'd have said, 'Next Wednesday.'"
"Sorry, Esme."

Quote from: wes.janson on May 26, 2008, 07:18:56 PM
This is the rumour as to why they are making the Wee Free Men into a feature length instead of countless other better choices (IMHO).. They worry that the anthromorphic personification of Death will scare children.

I absolutely ADORE Prachett. My little 3 year old boy gets read a little bit every night before he goes to bed and he actually begs me to play either the Hogswatch movie or the newer Colour of Magic when it's his video time.

The main reason The Wee Free Men has been chosen is because this is the book Terry Gilliam wants to make...There have been talks previously, most notably Good Omens (which is one of the best reads ever) with Johnny Depp as Crowley but neither Terry or Neil Gaiman have any faith in Hollywood, especially as they'd want to set it in the US, not middle England.  Terry Pratchett's relationship with Hollywood is strained, which is why Sky have made the last two features.  However, these do not have the feel of a feature...I'm not sure what it is but it's like a large scale Dr Who production.  I really enjoyed Hogfather as they kept close to the book and the casting was inspired, however The Colour of Magic/The Light Fantastic didn't work for me because David Jason was just not Rincewind. Rincewind has always been described (and illustrated) as young, skinny and bedraggled.  The role was perfect for Rhys Ifans (omitting the Welsh accent) but as Jason was stumping up a lot of the cash, he obviously had to have the title role.

If they decide to make some more, I'd really like to see Night Watch made into a feature...Alan Rickman would make a hysterical Vimes.  :thumbsup:

Night Watch has the honour of being the most inspired cover for a book...

Original:
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Kidby version:
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Although since then a lot of his covers are parodies..

The Last Hero (parody of Scream)
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Monstrous Regiment (Flag raising on Iwo Jima)
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Quote from: callagrafx on May 27, 2008, 12:48:28 AM
<snip> notably Good Omens (which is one of the best reads ever) with Johnny Depp as Crowley<snip>

<snip> because David Jason was just not Rincewind. Rincewind has always been described (and illustrated) as young, skinny and bedraggled. <snip>

<snip> If they decide to make some more, I'd really like to see Night Watch made into a feature...Alan Rickman would make a hysterical Vimes.  :thumbsup: <snip>

Agreed, agreed and agreed.

There was apparently also talk of Holywood doing Mort, although they weren't sure the American's would get Death so wanted to cut him out.  ()what()

Terry on the USA (apologies in advance to our friends across the pond)

QuotePeople whose concept of ancient history is the first series of Star Trek
may be treated with patience, because it's usually not their fault they
were reduced to getting their education from school.

From Nightwatch to Thud - the entire Vimes/Carrot/Angua series ought to be made into movies. Although I would cast J. Irons as Lord V, with Rickman being more an Otto for me (just to get him out the Potter frame of acting)

QuoteGive a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life. - Discworld

QuoteThe duke had a mind that ticked like a clock and, like a clock, it regularly went cuckoo. - Wyred Sisters

monstrous regiment would amke an interesting feature, especially casting the majority of the characters and their secret.....

QuoteIt was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.  - Jingo

This should produce some "interesting" results:
Who would you cast, irrespective of movie/tv film, and without reorting to too much special effects, in the following roles

• Cpt. Vimes
• Carrot
• Angua
• Nobbs
• Lord V.
• Granny Weatherwax
• Nanny Oog
• The Librarian
• Ponder Stibbons
• Rincewind
• Susan
• Moist von Lipwig

Let's see who get's the most  nominations..

Edit: Err..if the name of the nominated actor isn't on the tip ove everyone's tongue, maybe a link/pic could be, err, included..?

I'll think on the others and get back to you but there really is only one candidate in my mind for the Librarian and thats Andy Serkis.  Poor guy never could get himself on screen, but I'm a huge fan and think he would play the part to perfection.

And I'm sorry, but he has to be special effects.

Clint Eastwood would have been perfect to play the role of Sam Vimes, but since it's er, kind of too late for that. :P

I actually did quite like Michelle Dockery playing Susan, though... she really did fit the character quite well. :P

QuoteThere was apparently also talk of Holywood doing Mort, although they weren't sure the American's would get Death so wanted to cut him out.

That's just dumb. Isn't Death, like, one of the most important characters in that book? :P

Speaking of Holy Wood, wonder how Moving Pictures would be received as a er, movie? :P

And Diggis, I agree. He did do a good job playing Gollum. :P

Quote from: Shadow Assassin on May 27, 2008, 06:29:59 AM
Clint Eastwood would have been perfect to play the role of Sam Vimes, but since it's er, kind of too late for that. :P

That's just dumb. Isn't Death, like, one of the most important characters in that book? :P

I was thinking the same thing about Clint.  Always been whats in my head.

As for that comment about Mort it came out of one of the books I think, but as my collection is in a box in NZ I can't check which one.  One of the addon pieces, maybe the Deaths Domain Map, or the omnibus preable, but I found this on the net which is pretty much it: http://wiki.lspace.org/wiki/TV_and_film_adaptations

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I was thinking the same thing about Clint.  Always been whats in my head.

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There is a certain familiarity there, isn't there? :P

...and in the Art of Discworld, Paul Kidby (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Kidby) actually did say that he was thinking Clint Eastwood as he drew Sam Vimes as he imagined.

Clint Eastwood was the inspiration for Judge Dredd (the original 2000AD comic) and was drawn to resemble him...Not sure he'd make a good Vimes though.  Vimes is a self confessed (excuse my french) bastard...If John Thaw were still alive he'd be a good choice.  Mr Eastwood just cannot do comedy, and it would have to be a black comedy for sure.

Totally agree with Shaun that Andy Serkis would make the perfect librarian.

I think the best Vetinari would be Rowan Atkinson (Blackadder).

Quote from: callagrafx on May 27, 2008, 07:46:10 AM
I think the best Vetinari would be Rowan Atkinson (Blackadder).

I think he would play the part well, but not sure he has the right look.  Not quite smart enough.  He's always looked a little scruffy.

Rickman would make a better Vetinari possibly.

Rickman as Vimes? Ooooh... I never would have thought of that, but once you point it out, it is obvious.

Quote from: Diggis on May 27, 2008, 07:57:33 AM
I think he would play the part well, but not sure he has the right look.  Not quite smart enough.  He's always looked a little scruffy.

I dunno, slick his hair back and pale his face and the image is spot on...more importantly he has the best comic timing and can deliver lines in such a way that, even if the content isn't funny, the delivery is. 

Add a goatee and there we have him...
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However, that's prompted the perfect Nobby Nobbs...Tony Robinson (aka Baldrick).

Quote from: callagrafx on May 27, 2008, 08:28:25 AM
I dunno, slick his hair back and pale his face and the image is spot on...more importantly he has the best comic timing and can deliver lines in such a way that, even if the content isn't funny, the delivery is. 

Add a goatee and there we have him...
However, that's prompted the perfect Nobby Nobbs...Tony Robinson (aka Baldrick).

You mean like this..?
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And yes, TR would be perfect for Nobbs - if he were a tad younger..

K, point taken.  And Tony Robinson voiced the first computer game and was perfect.

And how about Mark Addy (Full Monty, Shaun of the Dead) as Colon.  Possibly a bit young, maybe Colon from Night Watch.

Quote from: Diggis on May 27, 2008, 08:55:18 AM
K, point taken.  And Tony Robinson voiced the first computer game and was perfect.

And how about Mark Addy (Full Monty, Shaun of the Dead) as Colon.  Possibly a bit young, maybe Colon from Night Watch.

Say, can someone here quickly find about 10 mill? Looks like the perfect production team for "Nightwatch - The Movie" is already assembled here..  :satisfied:

I always thought of Timothy Spall when I think of Fred...And despite his menace, the only person with the physique to pull off Carrot would be Vinnie Jones (with his hair dyed, that is).

Quote from: HandsOn on May 27, 2008, 09:02:28 AM
Say, can someone here quickly find about 10 mill? Looks like the perfect production team for "Nightwatch - The Movie" is already assembled here..  :satisfied:

Let me just check my spare change pot  :D :D :D

Quote from: callagrafx on May 27, 2008, 09:05:51 AM
I always thought of Timothy Spall when I think of Fred...And despite his menace, the only person with the physique to pull off Carrot would be Vinnie Jones (with his hair dyed, that is).

I find Timothy Spall a little too creepy and sly.  Not quite Gormless enough.  And I was trying to think of someone who could pull off Carrot.  Vinnie does have the imposing figure, but possibly not the innocence.  :D

I wonder who would be good to play Carcer in Night Watch? :P

Quote from: Shadow Assassin on May 28, 2008, 03:37:12 AM
I wonder who would be good to play Carcer in Night Watch? :P

That's easy....Ray Winstone  :thumbsup:

Gary Oldman  is definitely Capt Swing

Had a rethink on Colon...either Richard Griffiths (Mr Dursley from HP) or Robbie Coltrane (who would pull it off to perfection I reckon).

Robbie coltrane gets my vote for old Colon.

And I'll give you Ray Winstone. 

Agreeing with Diggis here, I must. And Richard Griffiths' grouchy demeanor would probably be better suited to play Albert, Death's undying man-servant..

QuoteGeography is just physics slowed down, with a couple of trees stuck in it.  - The last Continent

One of the best quotes....ever....

QuoteRidcully was to management what King Herod was to the Bethlehem Playgroup Association.

QuoteAnd Richard Griffiths' grouchy demeanor would probably be better suited to play Albert, Death's undying man-servant..

And he does look kind of like what I imagined Albert to be. :P

On the bright side, at least it'd be very cheap to do Death's Domain. :P

I saw TP on the news this morning talking about Alzheimer's and thought the man himself you play a great Bursar.

QuoteReal stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time. - Hogfather

I'm should be thinking of "who" should play "who" in the books, but I can't get past David Jason as Rincewind, I mean Rincewind what was he thinking, I could just about see him as the tourist Twoflower, but Rincewind ...  ()sad()

Quote from: callagrafx on May 27, 2008, 12:48:28 AM
I really enjoyed Hogfather as they kept close to the book and the casting was inspired, however The Colour of Magic/The Light Fantastic didn't work for me because David Jason was just not Rincewind. Rincewind has always been described (and illustrated) as young, skinny and bedraggled ....

notices the Luggage in the corner and wanders over to have a look at it



SNAP

Rincewind in that movie looks too old!

I was expecting him to be maybe, about mid-20s, like an university student or something. Not an old guy. :P

Quote from: Shadow Assassin on May 29, 2008, 02:10:27 AM
Rincewind in that movie looks too old!

I was expecting him to be maybe, about mid-20s, like an university student or something. Not an old guy. :P

Nah, Rincewind is an old survivor; in the the first book at one point he even mentiones that he's been at the university for a long long time - he just never finished his studies. But he'll be gangly, narrow-faced, with a straggly, thinned out beard, and hand-me-down robes. Jason was simply too rotound..

Quote from: HandsOn on May 29, 2008, 03:39:05 AM
Nah, Rincewind is an old survivor; in the the first book at one point he even mentiones that he's been at the university for a long long time - he just never finished his studies. But he'll be gangly, narrow-faced, with a straggly, thinned out beard, and hand-me-down robes. Jason was simply too rotound..

And not really cynical enough.

In memory "GNU Terry Pratchett"

QuoteTerry Pratchett's 33rd Discworld novel, Going Postal, tells of the creation of an internet-like system of communication towers called "the clacks". When John Dearheart, the son of its inventor, is murdered, a piece of code is written called "GNU John Dearheart" to echo his name up and down the lines. "G" means that the message must be passed on, "N" means "not logged", and "U" means the message should be turned around at the end of a line.

http://www.theguardian.com/books/shortcuts/2015/mar/17/terry-pratchetts-name-lives-on-in-the-clacks-with-hidden-web-code

For those people that want to know what sites have implemented this code on their site you can downloaded the firefox or chrome addon to see it, the code has been added over at

www.city-builders.info

:)