What can Vista do and not run with SC4? I know Fishman is one of the programs is not user friendly with Vista... The reason why I am asking is because tonight as a late christmas gift my wife bought me a new computer and it has vista... I am scared to unpack the new fangle thing as well honestly this is the first brand new machine I ever owned!!
System Info: (from the box)
Windows Vista Home Premium
23 inch LCD HD Monitor 1080 DBPI
E5300 Intel Pentium Dual Core Processor
6GB Memory
500GB HD
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100
Super Multi DvD Burner w/Lightscribe Tech
15:1 Memory Card Reader
USB 2.0 & Firewire Ports
Norten Internet Security 2009
HP Media Smart Software Suite
Cyberlink DvD Suite Deluxe
Microsoft Works 9
Muvee Reveal Basic
OK so that is all the information I know about the new Paper weight lol and any help would beeee so loved and thank you!!!!
The FSH problem is no more...checkout what Null45 and Jonathan created. Reader(for me anyway)was a little harder to set up as was SC4Tool. The game works pretty darn fast , but since you have an Intel dual core , you may/may not have a few issues. Its a little late here and gotta go to work in the morning , so if you don't get any more feed back , I'll drop back by.
Jayson
Hey Jayson thanks man!! I am not to worried about Fishman per say at all since I dont get into that aspect and havent yet lol.... But I am more scared about playing the game, SC4Tool, Reader, LE, and so on works... Like I said I haven't even cut the tape on the box yet lol.... But I do look forward to seeing what happens next and again thank you!!!
Hey Pat,
Supposed to be working , but boss is off this week so.....
OK , vista and .FSH files don't get along so regardless if you want to use FSHman or SC4Tool, you will need to replace a .dll file so that Vista will display them. Null45 re-did the .dll and it can be found HERE (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=5142.msg221467#msg221467)
The main issues I have had with both Reader and SC4Tool is that I had to manually set where my Plugins folders are as well as since I use the modified (Tropod properties properties.xml in reader).
I have no idea I had to manually set them but that is the only way that SC4Tool would see both folders , as well as reader and keeping reader from crashing. If needed , I can send you both configuration setting files , and you can just modify them to your needs.
SC4tool does not work with "Aero" enabled so you will need to turn off : visual themes , desktop composition & disable display scaling on high DPI settings so that it wont crash. Reader on the other hand works under "aero". DATgen , LEprop , etc. work fine as well.(although I am presently having isues extracting .FSH files in reader)
From what I understand , Terraformer or Mapper may have issues with Vista...can't remember if this is true as I haven't tried them yet.( I think it has something to do with x64 Vista which , since you have 6 gigs of ram , your probably running).
SUM , I think works , not sure again as I haven't tried it.
DatPacker and Cleanitol work fine.
Also , when you are installing programs , and this is the tricky part sometimes , you will see you have 2 program file directories. One is mainly used for x64 Apps , while the other (x32) for just about everything else.
Doing a quick search on the onboard video :GMA 3100 (Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 31000 offers up to 256MB of shared memory). Basically , you can play the game with not many problems , but if you have the cash , I would upgrade it since Vista already is a resource hog , even though you have 6 gigs , it's kinda like you only have 4- 4.5 (which is still a lot , but when you start adding a lot of content , well you know what happens!)
If I think of anything else , I'll drop back buy.
Have fun , I thought Vista would be terrible with these , but it really hasn't been too bad :)
Jayson
Thank you Jayson I am a little less nervouse of unpacking the new paper weight now lol.... Now I just have to figure out how to get everything from this Emachine over to the HP...
That's a very nice machine, but if it was mine, I would get rid of a few things like:
Change Vista to XP 64
Change the onboard graphic card for a good nvidia card
Get rid of all that software, including Norton, and install Kasperski instead.
Works, if I couldn't have an Office version, might have stayed.
Related to SC4, so far, I have all the tools and game working fine with Vista 64, except for Cogeo's new tool. However, this summer, I'm reverting my system back to XP, but this time the 64bit version.
Quote from: Rayden on May 18, 2009, 09:17:11 AM
That's a very nice machine, but if it was mine, I would get rid of a few things like:
Change Vista to XP 64
Change the onboard graphic card for a good nvidia card
Get rid of all that software, including Norton, and install Kasperski instead.
Works, if I couldn't have an Office version, might have stayed.
Related to SC4, so far, I have all the tools and game working fine with Vista 64, except for Cogeo's new tool. However, this summer, I'm reverting my system back to XP, but this time the 64bit version.
I have to say , I have a dual boot x64 xp and x64Vista install (came with Vista but thought xp would be better) and the Vista install is the one I use 99% of the time!
I agree about the Antivirus(anything but Norton or Macaffe Pat!)
Open office baby! Forget about the 60 day trial of office!
Jayson
Hey Pat,
Despite what many people seem to say, I've been using Vista on both machines for quite a while now (32x on my laptop and 64x on my desktop) with very few SC4 related problems. Yes... Vista definitely has a couple odd quirks and settings to be manipulated, but I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as I keep hearing. I think you'll be just fine! ;)
I would definitely agree with Silvio about the graphics card though. I haven't used a "stock" card shipped with a computer in quite a few years and I bet it will be one of the first things you notice as well. ::)
JB
Open Office is a good and costless choice. About Vista, I'm not saying it's not good, otherwise I would never be using it now, I just said that I'll be reverting to XP 64bit, just because it's better than Vista. I always said that Vista is a "fancy" version of XP with a couple of good improvements, which can be found on the XP 64bit version. ;)
Like I said, the only thing related to the game that still doesn't work is Cogeo's new tool, all the rest works 100% free of problems on my Vista 64bit machine.
Eeeeeeeeeeks OK now I am scared again!!! I know how to play with the machine but other then that I am a total dummie lol.... I wouldn't know how to change out the graphics card of where to get here in Hodag Town?? Yea sure we got a Wally World and a Office Max and that is about it, also a computer hack who is really just that lol....
You should consider upgrading to Windows 7 when it comes out, (the Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate only though) come with a free XP Mode (a Virtual PC), so any programs that don't run in Windows 7 (if they don't work in Vista the chances are they won't work in Windows 7) you can run in a proper installation of XP. Also Windows 7 has many improvements over Vista.
Source 1 (http://windows7news.com/2009/04/25/windows-xp-compatibility-mode/) Source 2 (http://windows7news.com/2009/05/07/how-to-install-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7/)
I have managed perfectly well with Vista, though it did take some getting used to. And I have hated it when going back to a XP computer, and not sure I really understand why some people downgrade, unless of course it is a business or need to run a critical program that doesn't work on Vista.
I got Vista pretty early though, so a lot of drivers and software didn't have Vista versions, but now it is all much better. I'd stick with it personally(cheaper as well than buying XP)
I've tried Open Office before (admittedly a relatively long time ago) and didn't like it. Prefer Office 2007 by far, but my main issue was that most people use Office (well like my school which I send homework to and from) and Open Office didn't save in Office format (or it did but there were problems with formatting and such, I can't remember) but now I'm guessing that's changed.
Jonathan
Jonathan
Pat , unbox the dang thing , set it up and try it out! :D
I can only add a few things: If you are fairly certain that no one else is going to be messing around in there, make sure you set up your account as an administrator since a lot of programs need that due to Vistas' UAC. (which leads me to this) Turn off the UAC pop ups unless you like to repeatedly get the "so and so is trying to do such and such) message!
Also , the reason I suggest open office mainly is that it is free. It allows for opening and manipulating many of the same files that Microsoft Office uses natively. I had tried it a few years ago and hated it , much like I hated Vista , but a second look later down the road and I'm finding both to be very use full! I also use AVG as my antivirus , Firefox for web and thunderbird for E-mail , but that is just my preferences (*Results may vary*)
As far as your video card situation , here's the deal , I ran SC4 for years on a FX5200 with really no ill effects. It also was 256 megs which freed up my system memory , unlike your on-board. Try the game out and see if you need to drop the extra coin into a replacement.Sure, you may not get a huge WEI rating and maybe Aero kills the computer , if so turn off Aero...it may save you some headaches with legacy programs! All in all , if you aren't trying to frag people over the net , edit a blockbuster movie or compose a digital musical masterpiece (last one just thrown in for the heck of it) , this computer should provide a few years of quality use.....just as long as you remove some of that "Bloatware"!
Jayson
Hey Jayson, I know I plan on keeping my AVG as that is all I use for Anti-virus for sure!!! So I wont even play with that Norten blah lol... Oooh hopefully within the next hour or so a friend of my wife should be coming in to help me set up as he gots all the transferring programs since he buys and builds quite frequently lol...
Hey Jonathan, I might give windows 7 a shot for sure when it comes out most defintly... I am still scared though honestly but with everyone's help so far I feeling better just even getting this close...
BTW I did finally at least as of now unpack the darn thing lol.... MY GOD the monitor is a monster compared to my "old" current one lol...
Old Monitor:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg526.imageshack.us%2Fimg526%2F6679%2Foldmonitor.th.jpg&hash=552b4f1ef422c6c8ac53c089dba6ddd0bcf56377) (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oldmonitor.jpg)
Click me for full Resolution!!!
New Monitor:
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg507.imageshack.us%2Fimg507%2F2761%2Fnewmonitor.th.jpg&hash=ae82fc8d0898f840c187fd7225bb647a285630d3) (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newmonitor.jpg)
Click me for full Resolution!!!
Yeah , when I read your specs I got a little "display jealousy"! as I bought this 17 inch widescreen a few years ago. The banker , I mean the wife , didn't see why I went from a CRT to this , let alone why we need a bigger one. Of course , this from someone who likes her display resolution set at 800 x 600!
Have loads of fun setting it up and learning Vista! (It takes a while , but if your computer wasn't built on a Monday or Friday) it should go without a hitch ;D
Jayson
A good source for computer parts, (if you are looking for a video card), go to http://www.newegg.com/ (http://www.newegg.com/)here. Personally, i recomend this video card (even though it may be a bit overkill for sc4) because it is not too expensive and it is fairly up to date. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187057 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187057) here. It is an Nvidia Geforce 9400GT PCI card with 512 Megs of memory There are cheaper video cards than this.
Also i have made a video on changing the video card http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKHczOxGCTs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKHczOxGCTs)here. The one I installed in the video is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187058 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187058) this. It is an Nvidia Geforce 9400GT PCI card with 1 gig of memory.
The price has dropped a bit, but when i bought it, it was at aproximately the same price as it is now. These cards work for both vista and XP, but works better for vista than XP.
hopefully this helps. :)
Quote from: sithlrd98 on May 18, 2009, 03:13:05 PM
Yeah , when I read your specs I got a little "display jealousy"! as I bought this 17 inch widescreen a few years ago. The banker , I mean the wife , didn't see why I went from a CRT to this , let alone why we need a bigger one. Of course , this from someone who likes her display resolution set at 800 x 600!
Have loads of fun setting it up and learning Vista! (It takes a while , but if your computer wasn't built on a Monday or Friday) it should go without a hitch ;D
Jayson
OK I am on my new Toy now and Jayson OMG this screen is a killer eeeeeeeks!!! Dont worry lemme tell you that this monitor is more then I think I can handle lol!!! Its tooo much I was fine with my little monitor.... @ 100 % viewing everything now looks smaller where as it was before it looked large eeeks!!!! Whats sad is this new computer has to sit to the side right now till we figure out to make it fit on the desk lol cause of the monitor is tooo big....
@ Ryusuke516 thank you a million there and I will most defintly check that out!!!!
I'm sure you'll get used to that monster! It looks like you got the Pavillion a6847c-b ...correct? Upgradeable to 8 gb ram. I got a Pavillion a6650f , and just a few months ago , since I had only 6 gigs of ram but wanted to fill the board to 8 , got 2x2gb (4gb) ram off of newegg for around 40 bucks (all slots were full 2 1 gb sticks 1 2 2x2) ...so yeah check newegg for your pc wares! Congrats on getting it set up!
Jayson
OK Jayson, now where do I tell that part at lol :D
Which part? I looked at your thread over at Pegs , checked Sams.com , pulled the specs from
HP [linkie] (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/prodinfoCategory?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&product=3958539&lang=en) Not trademarked by David;D (yours also can hold 8 gb ram)...pretty simple :thumbsup:
By the way , whens the next podcast?
Jayson
LoL Jayson that be my toy lol... As soon as my friend comes back over tonight we are going to finish up the transfer and I am going to see if it works my Adobe Audtion 2.0... It should and I wouldnt see why not? Transfered to a WD 1TB exteranel HD lol... So if it fires up ok on the new machine it will be out soon...
Quote from: Pat on May 17, 2009, 07:54:28 PM
System Info: (from the box)
Windows Vista Home Premium
23 inch LCD HD Monitor 1080 DBPI
E5300 Intel Pentium Dual Core Processor
6GB Memory
500GB HD
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100
Super Multi DvD Burner w/Lightscribe Tech
15:1 Memory Card Reader
USB 2.0 & Firewire Ports
Norten Internet Security 2009
HP Media Smart Software Suite
Cyberlink DvD Suite Deluxe
Microsoft Works 9
Muvee Reveal Basic
My recommendations:
- Keep Vista Home Premium, just turn off UAC and you're good to go. (Consider getting Windows 7 when it comes out)
- Very nice monitor, keep that on the highest resolution your GPU can handle.
- You may have some problems with SC4 and the dual-core, but they are easily fixed.
- Good amount of RAM and diskspace, you won't have trouble with lag for a while.
- Definitely get a better GPU, I recommend a nVidia 8600 GT or better.
- GET RID OF NORTON!
- Keep all the other preinstalled software, they're worth it!
That's about it.
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LoL thanks there Pat and I have pretty much worked on that so far... I am still having problems located and figuring out what everyone is babbling about UAC lol... But I have reinstalled my AVG on here so I wasnt even going to play with that Norton eeew lol.....
UAC (User Account Control)is that annoying pain in the butt dialog box that pops up every time you want to go to the bathroom LOL!
Now if you don't mind it...give some time , but you'll wanna shut it off sooner or later!
[linkie] Disable User Account Control (UAC) the Easy Way on Windows Vista (http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/disable-user-account-control-uac-the-easy-way-on-windows-vista/) linkie Not trademarked by David;D
Hope that helps!
Jayson
Thank you Jayson and I noticed that every time I wanted to sneeze too!!!
I think linkie is trademarked though but I'm grandfatherd for years now lol
Just thought I'd bust your chops like Hal did mine ;D
Jayson
LoL Jayson oooh yea on the click for full resolution bit lol hehehee.... BTW UAC is dead now ehehehe!!! So I Should be able to play and install SimCity 4 now without a problem and all the tools?
Since I am running a Quad core AMD , I didn't have the same issues that some with the Intel chip did. Somewhere in the forums , there is info on how to change the Afinity , so that x86 single core apps will run by shutting down the second core while playing games. You may not even experience any issues , just try and see if it crashes...mainly on scrolling and zooming I think.Supposedly Vista is set up to detect such issues and correct for it...supposedly ;D
Jayson
User Account Control in Windows 7 is much better than Vista, Microsoft seems to have fixed UAC the second time round.
Quote from: sithlrd98Since I am running a Quad core AMD , I didn't have the same issues that some with the Intel chip did.
Multi-core processors are suposed to be better at things like some games and programs like 3dsmax ;)
I have a Intel Core 2 Duo and have never had any problems with SC4 or anything else for that matter, so I'd try running the game before you make any changes.
Jonathan
OK Kewl thanks all and I am a bit of turn coat or I feel like one now lol.....
(https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg42.imageshack.us%2Fimg42%2F2642%2Fsimcitysocitiespic1.jpg&hash=0087670216fbbdece442821c4c859cb58142960a)
The other day I couldn't resist buying the SimCity Box and since it has Destinations in it well I been playing a bit lol.... But back to my SC4 for sure and I am glad now I do have a backup disk in case something happens to the ones I do got.... Even though on the Box it says its Sim City 4 and Rush Hour it aint its Deluexe lol.....
Sorry what's that game?
Really Pat, what is the world coming to :P
Good you got the computer up and running! :)
Jonathan
LoL yea no kidding there Jonathan I wonder whats happening myself eeeeks!!! Ohh BTW I did also buy Flight Simulator Gold Edtion as well lol... Even though I havent played it yet nor installed it either.... Its been one of those games you drool over and allways wanted and now you finally get your like now what lol... I umm ok that was wierdness?? I hit something on the keyboard and never ever had a message flash on the screen gaaah!!!! ooh it only was to tell me about cap locks lol....
Quote from: null45 on May 19, 2009, 08:13:15 PM
Multi-core processors are suposed to be better at things like some games and programs like 3dsmax ;)
Its a shame that I have all this computing power and only fire up G-max/Max every once and a while ()sad()
Now on to Pat..............................
How dare you corrupt this site with images from a far inferior "knock-off"!Seriously , once you get SC4 installed and patched , I would slowly start adding stuff and try to see if you are going to have issues with SC4.Like I said , it seems to be a mixed bag with the game. Some have zero issues , some like myself can't figure out why either of my GPU's like SC4, and some can't even get it installed or even start. It's like anything made these days...plug it in , cross your fingers , and hope that it dosen't suddenly have the idea to play
Global Thermonuclear War! (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086567/synopsis)
Quote from: Pat on May 20, 2009, 09:59:19 AM
I umm ok that was wierdness?? I hit something on the keyboard and never ever had a message flash on the screen gaaah!!!!
Uh oh , I think it has begun!!!!
Quote from: Pat on May 20, 2009, 09:59:19 AM
ooh it only was to tell me about cap locks lol....
Whew....that was a close one.... :D
Jayson
Hey Jayson I could have been up and playing SC4 now but since 1pm cst been fighting forest fires... I had to actually leave the scene to go home and get cleaned up to come to work where I am at now.... uughh I could use a good nap... but rest assured I am going to play when I get home ;)
I know I am bad by showing that pic but I thought I would never play any thing other then SC4.... Oooo OOO whats that Global game you talking about ehheheeh??
Hey , thanks for the job you do!!!! I know that many of us appreciate what 'yall do!
Jayson
Its nothing there Jayson honestly.... I know my boss supports me to a point and since I was on the call waaaaay before my scheduled shift he was figuring I wasn't going to come in at all lol.... I told him I was ordered by my assistant chief to call it a night after all day and since being sick all last week she didn't want me pushing any more!!! Since the next fire we was going to be going to had already burned about 80 + acres as of 5pm...
My boss laughed at me $%Grinno$% but was happy I did show up tonight... As of right now I am glad I did come here cause my department is still at the other fire ugggh I would have killed myself lol...
Well I got SC4 installed and I played Vanilla no problem... I took the plunge got the update's and then put in my plugins for laughs and grins OK no problems all is good.... But the problem I am noticing is I am having Zoom crashes which I never had a problem with before... But with 3.45 gigs of plugins and the load time is less then a minute or soo its sweet so I guess I can live with it lol...
Zoom crashes? Try using software rendering. ;)
Make sure that your game is also run with all compatibility settings and that is applied to all users in the shortcut.
Game settings (at least on my computer with ATI graphics card) sometime aren't saved in hardware rendering so my game has to run software mode.
Despite that my game has run more or less smoothly for the last 6 months (with a few minor random crashes). ;D
Your video card capability is... um... lacking? &mmm An upgrade is highly suggested. However, if you don't have the time at the moment to buy it, you can save resources for SC4 by shutting down explorer.exe and some other non-essential processes. You can also disable anti-virus but of course make sure that your internet is disconnected in that case. I've done this ever since I started playing SC4 (on both XP and Vista). :)
- Allan Kuan
Hey Allan thanks man!!
Glad you've had a chance to start playing with the new toy, Pat! If you're experiencing more zoom crashes than in the past, I would bet that it has more to do with your graphics card than anything else. (I would seriously doubt it has little if anything to do with vista.) There's always been a problem with trying to change zoom levels while moving the map at or close to the same time. If your graphics card is lagging behind, the window between doing those two things at once can be even longer... and crashes more common. I get the same thing on my laptop a fair bit where the card isn't that great. I understand your dilemma with being out in the sticks... but you could always just order a card from Best Buy online (or similar) and they'll send it right to your house. Although if you don't feel comfortable putting it in yourself, I guess I'll just have to hop a plane and visit some people in Eagle River! ;)
JB
Just to add...If you , for some strange ,crazy reason are running Aero , Sidebar , etc on that card...turn those off as well. Also , if you are still experiencing this in software mode , than it may have more to do with your processor. As I said before , some Intel multi-core users had issues with the game , since it was written back when single core was what was available. I will say this , I ended up using the AMD optimizer in order to play with out zoom-crashes , even though many people on the net said it was un-necessary in Vista! And , just popping over to Newegg , there are 150 cards under 50 bucks , so even if its not a dual Sli or one that is the best in the world,at this point anything's got to be better than what you've got!
Jayson
So you got yourself a new rig :). Well, I dun have much to say. Everybody said what I would say. Ditch the bloatwares. Ditch the GPU and get an NVIDIA 8800 or up for 8 series or 9600 or up for the 9 series. For ATI, get a 3850 and up for 3XXX series or 4XXX series.
Decent graphics cards are cheap now. Believe me, a few months ago I saw this expensive card. It was about 25,000.00 PHP (1 USD = 41~43 PHP back then), but now it's only 12,150.00 PHP (That's more than half) with 1 USD = 47~48 PHP ;). Oh yeah, that card was the NVIDIA GTX 280.
I didn't know you play SC:S $%Grinno$%. How long have you been hiding it :D?
lol there mildirk I just only play SC: S now on the new rig... I am looking into getting the diffrent graphics card but that will be a bit down the road....
You can get a 9600 GT if you wanna save money. I have a 9600 GT and I think it's less than 100 USD right now. You can play games at respectable graphics settings and resolutions with that card and you don't need a big power supply (about 400-500 Watts will do). It's a saver ;D. But the Rule of thumb for gaming is to never use an Intel graphics chipset ;).
Hey there Mildrick thanks for the idea and I did find that card at wal mart last night honestly... Funny thing it was in the clearance isle for only 30.00 usd!!! Heres the bad thing my monitor is 23 inches and it supports up to only 19 and it says it right on the box siiiiiiigh, go fig my luck..... OK so why I am coming back here is that after my absence due to health and lack of playing SC4 I went to fire up the game yesterday and it wont load at all!!! Now a wee while ago I was able to load it testing some fire trucks (BTW here linkie (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/details.cfm?id=22471) must say awesome set of trucks too BTW ;)) for Chris aka Gwail... I have tried to restore points and everything and plugins removal and nothing... I am stressing out here cause I was going to work on challenge 7 and then 8 yesterday but cant do that now...
I had a brain fart today and man it was a good one lol... I was digging out the repacking tut for vista users and in the mean time I was looking at my core files IE Sim City 1 and so forth.... I noticed something odd on SC1 the date and the size of the file was zero and the date was 9/9/09 2 pm modified hmmmmm!!! ding ding there was my problems!!! god I feel like a dork now lol... Its a good thing I have a back up of the files on my external hard drive and so I went on there and poof game started right up!!! YAY!!!
I've learned the hard way that Vista was not made to be loved... Quite the contrary. :thumbsdown:
Good thing you got SC4 back up and running though.
I wouldn't give up on that Intel video processor until you try it.. that particular unit has had some nice things said about it.. of course nothing stops you from adding a new card anytime... System looks very nice.. Will be interested in how it all works out for you
So I still can get it even though its for up to 19 inch monitor and I got a 23 inch monitor?
Wish I found this thread, and got here sooner to say that if anything, Vista actually seemed to load up SC4 faster. I have this game running on a 28 inch, wide screen. Where did it say Exactly about the 19 inch limitation?
I beleive that it was that the video card was deisgned for use on a 19 inch screen.
Pat, don't worry about it. The video card should work just fine, and at worst you'll have some "black space" on either side of your display.
J-dub it said it right on the back of the box... Recommended for up to a 19 inch monitor..
hmmm so if anything a little blackness that wouldnt be to bad there then Pat thanks!!! Now just hopefully it will still be there when I can get back to wal mart :)
Quote from: Pat on September 19, 2009, 12:23:26 PM
Hey there Mildrick thanks for the idea and I did find that card at wal mart last night honestly... Funny thing it was in the clearance isle for only 30.00 usd!!! Heres the bad thing my monitor is 23 inches and it supports up to only 19 and it says it right on the box siiiiiiigh, go fig my luck..... OK so why I am coming back here is that after my absence due to health and lack of playing SC4 I went to fire up the game yesterday and it wont load at all!!! Now a wee while ago I was able to load it testing some fire trucks (BTW here linkie (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/details.cfm?id=22471) must say awesome set of trucks too BTW ;)) for Chris aka Gwail... I have tried to restore points and everything and plugins removal and nothing... I am stressing out here cause I was going to work on challenge 7 and then 8 yesterday but cant do that now...
Wow, that sure was a bargain for only 30.00 USD. Too bad it doesn't support the 23". You sure have a big monitor. Mine's a wee little 14" screen. But there are other graphics card out there that are both decently powerful and inexpensive for your needs :).
Personally, if I could get any video card, I'd get a nVidia Geforce 275 GT. And of course, the new mobo I'd need.
Yeah. Wish I could get an GeForce GT 275, but my wee-little 500W PSU couldn't take it &mmm.
I think my PSU is around 800W, but I haven't checked recently so I don't remember. To be honest, I'd probably have to get a new PSU anyway since the 275 doesn't get power from the mobo but directly from the PSU. I'd probably need to get new RAM and CPU as well, since the RAM I have now might not be compatible with a new mobo and I could use a better CPU anyway. Basically I'd be replacing all my hardware except for my HDD and PCI USB cards. Oh, and the case.
You might as well build a new computer :)
You mean buy a new computer? No thanks, I hate pre-builts with a passion. And yeah, basically when I upgrade my PC the only things I'm saving are my HDD, my case, and the PCI USB cards I have. Everything else (RAM, GPU, CPU, mobo) goes to my little brother.
No I meant to build a new computer instead of upgrading, because you'd be upgrading most of the parts.
Well, yeah, it would be building a new computer. Upgrading everything and just migrating a few parts over (HDD, PCI USB cards) is basically building a new one.
I think I got confused somewhere in here...anyway, what was the topic again?
yea yea I know its been a 120 days but this is my thread lol, OK its been a year since I had this computer been having no problems till now... OK long story short computer was unplugged and stored for about May 21 till June 2nd with disk 2 inside the drive...
Ive always left disk two inside and played with out a problem but during this down time the computer was stored in a garage and now the game wont load at all... I wont bore you all with the details why the computer was stored in a garage but if you have me on Facebook you know why...
Ive tried to pull out all the plugins and nothing, Ive even done a system restore and nothing... Did I kill my disk by being stored in the garage? I had also tried to pull out the regions folder and leave one region in there as well and nothing... I need heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp bad as in this time when it rains it poors in my life....
Does the drive read other discs? It could be a loose connection. Also, check to see if the disc is readable at all in Windows Explorer. Do you get the AutoPlay option when you insert the disc?
I hope nothing was near magnets, those can really mess things up, especially with computers. I swear, I have still seen untouched copies of SC4 on major store shelves, (the Simcity Box, it may even be sold through EA's online store) worse case scenario, but you will only know if you try other unrelated discs and those don't work in your PC as well. If it is a driver error, there are places that do repairs in my state that are so smart, they can even fix game consoles, but I won't bore you with those stories, but I have had something similar happen:
One day on my vista, the game acted up, and the PC failed to read the disc, even though the disc was in there, that I had to go through full reinstall and miraculously it worked afterword, except it took forever for disc 2 to finally be recognized, and I had to keep redoing it until it worked, but there were some side effects I don't like to mention. When leaving the SC4 disc and booting the PC up, it used to read something about gathering system boot data from installation disc before the PC went to sign on. This was weird. I left SC4 in my PC last night, turned it on today, and my PC was black for a while starting up, and took longer to load up. Turned out there were back door executable trojans snuck and invaded my PC then camouflaged in the program files, that could of also been the case slowing it down, and not SC4, but who knows, that could of really messed things up if whatever it was got activated. I hope everyone else reading occasionally checks to see if something is not right down theirs. If you see a weird exe file on your pc, back out of the folder its in and delete that so you don't click on the exe itself. Also had to get rid of google web accelerator, it seems to be a backdoor loophole for tros.
Pat, if and when your issues get solved, I hope you will be able to resume and enjoy the new RHW, NWM and TuLEP's for this game.
Hey guys thanks for the thoughts there will have to check into and get back to you both... Im at the fire station atm and dont have my computer set up yet where I am staying but far as I know in the garage there was no maganets and other disk do play...