Introduction to "CWRIB" Concrete Walls for Ramps, Inclines, and Bridges
Hello all I wanted to show you the project I have been working on. I still have awhile to go,
but wanted to see what you think of it. Curruntly it works with RHW,roads, one-ways ,and avenues.
I'm working on MIS props now and have not decided yet if i will make them for the Maxis Highways.
These are simple concrete walls for the underside of elevated roads. I'm trying to come up with
the most versatile way of doing this, so that you can make up a lot for about any situation. I hope
you like it, so tell me what you think and if you have any suggestions please don't be shy i'll try to
answer back as soon as i can. I will be updating this when i can to be more of a beginners guide on
how to use the CWRIB.But here is a few screen shot of what you will be able to do and much more
hopefully.
Onlycoop
it looks a good project but the tunnel just looks so,unreal &mmm
Quote from: Luke09 on May 19, 2009, 03:38:49 PM
it looks a good project but the tunnel just looks so,unreal &mmm
That tunnel looks like the one in the city a few miles away from me looks. All that tunnel is is nothing but a giant pipe shoved underneath a 4 lane roadway above it
I like what you have achieved so far onlycoop
I love the way you did the center one over the RHW, that looks nice... I have to agree with mike that I've seen those before in some areas of the US. All of them look nice and just right. So they are props for Lots, is that what you mean...? That deffinately is a good idea in my opinion if that is the case. I definately would mind seeing more and await your tutorial that will probably explain the use a lot more, even if I can see how useful it already will be to me and those other whom like em'.
Yes it's going to be a large collection of offset props for about anything you can think of. Right now it's just for straight stuff i'm going to do diagonals, but i'm kinda waiting to see what NAM team is going to have, and straight props is going to push file size to the limit i think. So if people like it once i release the prop set i'll make a add-on for things not covered in first release like diagonals and so on. I hope to start putting the tutorial together this weekend, work primiting.
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looking good there and I cant wait to see some more progress here onlycoop!!!
This is definitely needed in the game. I hope to see this available soon.
Geoff
ooo that one looks nice... Take your time. I definately wouldn't mind the props, well at least for the straight sections, as I don't really use too many diagonals. On occassion I do, but that all depends on my mood, so having the first set as the straight pack and later Diagonal sounds like a great idea as I can see the size is deffinately going to be big... well not too big, but definately sizey I blieve. Keep up the great work... ()stsfd()
Sorry everyone i've been working alot for the last month and have not been able to get into making the tutorail for this.
I have worked out the naming of everthing I think for the most part. Also i have partnered up with Xyloxadoria from Siptropolis, he or she (don't know right now) show me a texture that i cropped i beleive to make a pretty good seamless square texture. heres a pic with it on the props hope you like and i hope to get this out soon, just bad timing by me &mmm
Have fun and enjoy,
Onlycoop
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Looks good and very realistic &apls
My only criticism is the low height on the sides. In real life, trucks, buses, and other taller vehicles would strike these lower sides of the arches. Trucks and other slower vehicles are usually kept to the outer lanes, and are usually prohibited from using the lane next to the median. With your arches, they would have to drive in the lane next to the median to get the proper clearance. I know SimCity isn't realistic with a lot of things, but we can make changes via custom content that we add to the game. ;)
-Jan
Quote from: Swamper77 on June 09, 2009, 08:36:38 PM
My only criticism is the low height on the sides. In real life, trucks, buses, and other taller vehicles would strike these lower sides of the arches. Trucks and other slower vehicles are usually kept to the outer lanes, and are usually prohibited from using the lane next to the median. With your arches, they would have to drive in the lane next to the median to get the proper clearance. I know SimCity isn't realistic with a lot of things, but we can make changes via custom content that we add to the game. ;)
-Jan
Actually there are places where it seems that trucks would not be able to go, and they make it easily
My friend is a truck driver and when I went with him on the road a couple weeks ago, there were bridges that looked like that, and I said he wouldn't make it, and he said yes he will and made it through with no problem.
The overall thickness of the bridge in the middle is kinda unrealistic, to my untrained eye :D though the addition of these is awesome, thankyou. and they look good even with the 'unrealism'
Joe
Thanks for the feed back everyone, on the egde lane the height of the arch is little over 4 or 5 meters (12 to 15 feet). And as for the thickness of the center, i set the top of the arch at 10 meters I did this so that when using them with the RHW i thought you didn't see enough of the arch. it would not be that hard for me to change it back to the way i had it be for but i kinda like the way they look now, but here is a pic of the old arch i had before i changed them.
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i thought the way it looked you didn't see enough of the arch but if ppl tell me they like it better i'll rebat it with the new texture and post a pic it later when i have a chance to.
Onlycoop
The old ones look like they have sufficient room compared to the newer models. I wouldn't have to worry about double decker buses hitting the arches while they are in the lane next to the shoulder.
-Jan
I like how this project is going! Xyloxadorias' textures look really good on these. I'm still a little fuzzy about how these are to be implemented...lots or are you going to T-21? (The would probably be the best...I think ;D)
Jayson
Either is good enough for me
Both look great
Maybe release both versions and let the players decide what they want to use?
Quote from: sithlrd98 on June 10, 2009, 05:31:37 PM
I like how this project is going! Xyloxadorias' textures look really good on these. I'm still a little fuzzy about how these are to be implemented...lots or are you going to T-21? (The would probably be the best...I think ;D)
Jayson
As I understand it, they will be lots with over hanging props.
One alternative is to use your newer arch style, but raise it up so there's less material between the top road surface and the gap under the arch.
becuase i'm doing slope changes with ramps (0 and 5) and inclines (8,10,14, and 15). each one will keep the textures aligned right. it's all about positions and positioning of the props, and because of that there are going to be multipules of the same prop just on a different X and Y locations. Yes much of this maybe able to be T-21 , but like with the inclines and ramps textures become warpped when you change from level to a slope. Also being able to control the legth of arches I don't think could be controlled right by T-21. Becuase if you put a rail next to a street how would you tell it to do a 2-tile wide arch instead of two 1-tile wide arches.
Ok heres a pic of the new arches i made, I raised them up by 2 meters higher then in first pic the of them. the 4-tile wide one i think i'm going to have to just remake it if that is not tall enough it's going on 7 meters were the lane starts now.
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IMHO, the three- and four-tile-wide arches look too stretched to be realistic; I personally would prefer a pair of 1.5- and 2-tile-wide arches to a single gigantic arch. Your call, though. Either way, I like the textures. Keep up the good work!
Here's some ideas for you from my trips around my state of New Jersey And Neighboring NY state!
Palisades Interstate parkway in NY state , all there overpasses and Underpasses are stone arches ,except for 4 !
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Some Truss along NJ SR 23
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Some arches along the Peekskill-Blaircliff Expressway
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I hope i gave you some ideas for your Arch Bridge Enchantment , your doing a great job already! :thumbsup:
~Corey
very cool and very helpful I was planning on making different arches as a add-on later. I just wanted to up some basic ones for the start and then make more elaborate arches later for more options. just so many ways to do things i wanted to cover things i would use. i am planning on making dual arches but they will either be with the RHW/MIS pack of props or another add-on pack.
the 3 and 4 tile wide arches i wanted because if i wanted to run a rail next to a ave or 2 MIS next to 4-RHW under a bridge.
but it's all in the eye of the beholder, hope to make some more post this weekend.
Onlycoop
I really like what your are doing here. ;D.... not all tunnels and overpasses have the same height for each lane, and it is up to the vehicle operator to pay attention to what lane he needs to be in.
I drive truck in RL... the US and Canada have standard tractor trailer height of 13' 6" or 4.11 meters. Anything taller needs a permit (... and route planning!)
If the clearance tile reads less than this, the T/T and most straight truck units are not going to fit.....
It's been the start of a bad day for many truckers when they realize their chosen route has a low clearance overpass... :o :'(
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^ Heh.
That's why most street directories and such will indicate the clearance for any underpass or level crossing (if you think a vehicle slamming into a bridge is bad, hitting 1500V or 25kV train wires is worse. :p
I believe it's also standard here to have the height signed on the overpass itself *just in case*.