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Title: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: mrbisonm on July 15, 2009, 06:52:56 AM
.....below...........
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: mrbisonm on July 15, 2009, 07:36:50 PM
Challenge 7

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*Economy and Business*

"Mayors," the Governor announces in his special meeting about our region's economy," times are a little rough right now and we need to get the economy rolling again. The Government will subsidy businesses of all kinds, whether industrials or commercials. Create jobs and increase the manufacturing, so we can export (by road, water or air) soon as much as possible and get our regional economy on top."

In this challenge we want you to increase the industries and commercials and we will not judge the game efficiency, but simply the good looks of your  images.
That's right, if it looks good, it gets good points.

This is one of the easier challenges before the storm.....while most of us are enjoying the summer and some of us will be on vacation, we thought we might put the 7th challenge on an easier table and to gather enough strength to get fully back into the last three very challenging  challenges.

There will some 6 pictures to be taken of industrials and commercials and we want them to be good looking. We will not judge the paintshopping you can do on the pictures (maybe a Bonus point), but only the images themselves.

Also you will build two different Resources that you have in your region, anything like electricity, mining, logging, fishing etc.(No Farming)  Everything that is from natural resources will be allowed. There are so many choices..... We want four pictures of this, two of each.

Plus two pictures of your Farming community. But hey, no hobbyfarmers though, we want real, moneymaking industrial-like Farming. Farms that earn enough to feed a big family and make profit on top. Yap...Big farms! Any farm is allowed, it can be grain, wine, meat, dairy, tree or fruit, vegetable or anything else that we could stick a name like a farm on it.

And at last one more demand. A park inside a closed municipality, something like a Central Park, for your city or townsims to relax off their stress and enjoy some natural looking surroundings. It doesn't have to be gigantic, just make it big enough for your city (balance the parksize with citysize) and make it practical, maintained and beautiful.

To show this time in your 7th Update:  

1.  3 Pictures in view 2,4 and 5 of your best industry settings.(industrial Park, no matter what category)

2.  3 Pictures in view 2,4 and 5 of your best commercial settings. (downtown, whether service or office)

3.  2 Pictures each of 2 different Ressources being harvested in any view, preferable one in an overview and the other in a more detailed view.

4.  2 Pictures of big farming communities in any view between 1 and 3.

5.  Finally 1 Picture in view 2,3 or 4 of your "simmish central Park"

These images can be taken on either side of your region.

The time for this challenge will be several weeks, because some of us will be on vacation and away from their computers (camping, summercamps etc), therefor we decided to make the deadline for Challenge 7 on August 15, 2009, midnight, NY time as always. Ontime Players will get one Bonus point. By that time we will have all the points calculated and uploaded for the last challenges.

Next Monday please start judging the others in their Vacation challenge Nr 6. We will be explaining it in details on Sunday how to go about it.

Enjoy the summer and hopefully with beautiful weather, which we in Quebec unfortunalty don't have at the moment, and be back in shape with a finished challenge 7 (or those who will have the time to finish all the challenges they missed lately) and we will then start the last three challenges with a normal timing, which will really need all your simcity know-how and logical senses.

Good luck

Fred and Lynn
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: soulchaser on July 15, 2009, 11:56:02 PM
Now, this is something else  ::) Have to find a natural ressource I haven't worked on yet ;). My HE-Dam already got it's points.

As I haven't been on vacation for 7 years now, I don't think I will have any time management problems this time  &mmm
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: mrbisonm on July 16, 2009, 08:20:42 AM
Good to hear, soulchaser.
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: Pat on July 16, 2009, 10:55:55 AM
time to fire up the printer and get to work!!!
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: BarbyW on July 16, 2009, 11:31:05 AM
Quote1.  3 Pictures in view 2,4 and 5 of your best industry settings.(industrial Park, no matter what category)

2.  3 Pictures in view 2,4 and 5 of your best commercial settings. (downtown, whether service or office)

Do you want the views 2,4 and 5 of the same industry and commercial settings or can they be different areas?
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: TheTeaCat on July 16, 2009, 11:39:33 AM
QuoteCreate jobs and increase the manufacturing, so we can export (by road, water or air) soon as much as possible and get our regional economy on top

Does this mean we have to build a seaport and airport?


Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: CabraBuitre on July 16, 2009, 06:02:03 PM
Are these new resources (i.e. ones that haven't been "discovered") or can we showcase ones that HAVE already been discovered?
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: mrbisonm on July 16, 2009, 08:36:18 PM
Quote from: BarbyW on July 16, 2009, 11:31:05 AM
Do you want the views 2,4 and 5 of the same industry and commercial settings or can they be different areas?

They can be from different areas or citytiles.

Quote from: TheTeaCat on July 16, 2009, 11:39:33 AM
Does this mean we have to build a seaport and airport?

No, I didn't say that you can build them, I said:
"so we can export (by road, water or air) soon as much as possible "
Maybe in the next challenge..........  ???

Quote from: CabraBuitre on July 16, 2009, 06:02:03 PM
Are these new resources (i.e. ones that haven't been "discovered") or can we showcase ones that HAVE already been discovered?
If the ressource has been judged in another challenge before, you cannot use it again, but if you haven't used it in your region, then it will be just fine.


Have a nice weekend
Fred
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: CabraBuitre on July 17, 2009, 05:27:49 PM
Quote from: mrbisonm on July 16, 2009, 08:36:18 PM
If the ressource has been judged in another challenge before, you cannot use it again, but if you haven't used it in your region, then it will be just fine.

And by "judged" you mean shown in pictures?  Because I showed some coal mines... that were mandated by the rebels.  Would it be kosher to show a new mine that has been discovered in a different part of the region?
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: mrbisonm on July 17, 2009, 08:54:37 PM
Quote from: CabraBuitre on July 17, 2009, 05:27:49 PM
And by "judged" you mean shown in pictures?  Because I showed some coal mines... that were mandated by the rebels.  Would it be kosher to show a new mine that has been discovered in a different part of the region?

By judged it means that we have asked for it in a challenge and you have chosen the coalmine to fulfill the demand in that challenge.
In your case in challenge 5, you showed us a coalmine, but we didn't ask for it, so it wasn't judged. Yes, you may choose it as for the resource demand, but please make different pictures as the ones you have already shown.

Fred
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: CabraBuitre on July 18, 2009, 06:57:12 PM
Thanks for the clarifications!
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: jmyers2043 on July 29, 2009, 08:19:36 AM
QuoteThe time for this challenge will be several weeks, because some of us will be on vacation and away from their computers (camping, summercamps etc), therefor we decided to make the deadline for Challenge 7 on August 15

Hello Fred

Thank you for the long deadline. I'll not be going to summer camp but I will begin traveling from August 4 through August 16. I may or may not have my latptop with me  :-\  . I enjoyed challenge 7 and with fear and trembling am looking forward to challenge 8.

All the best -
Jim Myers

Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: mrbisonm on July 29, 2009, 06:57:18 PM
jmyers2043, I just had a look at your challenge 7 last night, good stuff! ;)
Wishing you lotsa pleasure for your travel, I will be gone too for a couple of weeks, with Lynn of course, therefore challenge 8 will be announced a little later. Have fun.

I myself haven't even brought up my region to 125K yet....Geeeez, never thought that it would have been that difficult. Last I played for 6 hours in the region and got my region from 58K to 86K.......and I thought I could have reached 200K in that time.... ()sad()

Well, I know now that it was VERY hard for us and some good Bonus points will be given to those who made it in time.


BTW , Challenge 7's deadline will be hopefully respected though, leaving everyone lots of time.

Good luck and have a nice summer

Fred and Lynn (she will be back online very soon, being busy with her mother and our *immense* garden.)
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: jmyers2043 on July 30, 2009, 07:08:53 PM
QuoteGeeeez, never thought that it would have been that difficult

I could loan you the mysterious City Zoning Amulet for a while.    $%Grinno$%   :D 
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: mrbisonm on July 30, 2009, 07:28:52 PM
Quote from: jmyers2043 on July 30, 2009, 07:08:53 PM
I could loan you the mysterious City Zoning Amulet for a while.    $%Grinno$%   :D 


lol....no I will be fine. I just got it up to 92K.....getting there.....lol  ;)

Thanks

Fred
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: threestooges on August 13, 2009, 01:28:05 AM
Nuts, I just noticed wine was on the farm list... oh well, I still have a nice "Wine Country" Quick question though, would cattle and the subsequent transport/meatpacking be farming or not? If not, I may have to change plans here a bit.
-Matt
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: mrbisonm on August 13, 2009, 07:12:25 AM
Quote from: threestooges on August 13, 2009, 01:28:05 AM
Nuts, I just noticed wine was on the farm list... oh well, I still have a nice "Wine Country" Quick question though, would cattle and the subsequent transport/meatpacking be farming or not? If not, I may have to change plans here a bit.
-Matt

Cattle and whatever goes along closely with the cattle industry will be accepted as farming.


We have to make an important announcement:

The tIMELIMIT (Challenge 7 on August 15, 2009, midnight, NY time ) of this challenge (7) will be delayed for another two weeks. The new date will be the 30th of August 2009 EST. . <
The reason is simple. We will not be home before. We have decided, since we missed a good part of this earlier summer of bad, cold and rainy weather, to lengthen our vacation for another two weeks. I have my laptop with me, but unfortunetly do not have the game on it, nor anything that goes along with it. We will be on the road/air for the next two weeks again. By September 1st, everything should be back to normal, ioncluding the pointage of the last 3 challenges, which you are waiting for so eagerly.
Sorry for the delay, but too many things irl have been come in between this summer.

See you all then in top shape I hope.
BTW, Lynn says hello and she also will be present in two weeks.

Fred and Lynn ;)
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: threestooges on August 13, 2009, 11:17:09 AM
Rest well then Fred and Lynn. We'll be looking forward to what you all have in store. Also, not to rush you or anything, but what do we have for scoring guidelines for the past few challenges?
-Matt
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: soulchaser on August 13, 2009, 11:28:08 AM
Have a nice holiday. I have something to do, untill sept. 1st, as I set up a new and firt MD ;) So I'll keep waiting and playing GRVII as well ;)

Are we allowed to build some more in Bordertown?
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: Pat on August 13, 2009, 06:00:01 PM
wheeeeew OK good that gives me a little more time to get my health under control where I can have a good day of playing  ;)  Fred you and Lynn have a great time on your errr rest of the vacation!!
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: mrbisonm on August 13, 2009, 08:19:53 PM
I have receievd a somewhat *salted* PM today from one of our players, who seems to drop out of the competition because  the judging seemingly has stopped and no coming back is expected by that person.

Well, let me tell you something. We have spent more than 15 hours to think of, organize, write down, looking at the results and judging, making the plans and creating the pointage sheet....and that for every freaking challenge! That is a lot of work, which doesn't bring us anything. But we like it.

Then my mother in law got sick, Lynn's mother, and Lynn stopped helping me, making my judgements and work even more timely. But slowly we were able to organize and judge Challenge 4, 5 and 6 (lately), but on paper. Now to put it on the computer will take another 6 to 8 hours, and that time I did not have in July.
Now Lynn's mother seems to have taken the way to the end of the life journey and her health seems to get worse and worse with every week, she's 87 years old. That is very hard on Lynn and her brother and sisters.
Meanwhile I am in the midlle of unexpected work, way more than I hoped for, so it didn.t leave me much time with the challenges.
Listen folks, I hope you all understand this situation, which we did not expect. We WILL CONTINUE and that is a fact.
If you are tired of waiting, just let us know and we will be hoping that you might come back later.
The judgements for Challenge 4 to 6 will officially appear in their thread on August 31, promissed. Right now we are taking 3 weeks of vacation (one already gone) to get our minds off certain things in real life, to relax and probably prepare for the worst for Lynn's mother. When we come back on agust 27, the first thing I'LL do is start putting the results onto the computer to have it ready for the last day of august to upload to the Net.

We understand that some of you wished that it would go faster, but with the real life problems , arriving of summer and some of you disappearing for several weeks (vacation etc) things kinda slowed down. Don't get discouraged please, we will be back to normal in a short time.

Thanks for understanding.


threestooges, the scoring guidelines will be send with the challenges in each Player's thread. Thanks.

Pat, thanks and good luck. I haven't even reached my 125K population in the region yet....oh boy, that is definitively harder than I thought...lol

We're on the Wasaga Beach (Ontario) at the moment, flying to Moose Jaw (Saskatchewan) tomorrow, having a great time within Canada. ;)

Fred and Lynn
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: soulchaser on August 13, 2009, 11:07:57 PM
I just want to state that I understand you two. My best wishes for you.
I'm sad, that there's someone, who doesn't see your obligation. have some nice days.
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: CabraBuitre on August 14, 2009, 09:09:41 PM
I, for one, actually appreciate the extra time between challenges.  If I might suggest for the future a longer period of time such as this, such as a month per challenge... that would allow those who wish to work quickly to do so but gives you guys running the competition plenty of time to judge and gives people with overloaded lives time to get the challenges done!

We really do appreciate all the hard work you have and continue to put in this... based on that alone you deserve a vacation... let alone everything stressful going on in your lives!
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: threestooges on August 15, 2009, 02:03:17 AM
I like Cabra's idea of the month timeline thing (gives everyone more time to do what needs to be done) though I'll stick as close to the timeline you set as I can. I like the way this thing is getting me to play more of the styles I'm not used to. Especially now that the populations going up. Looking forward to what's coming next.
-Matt
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: turtle on August 18, 2009, 09:35:47 AM
Hi,

I think I can agree on the idea to generally have challenges run for a month. Even though the deadline have been moved for this challenge, I will probably not be able to make it since I'm in Berlin until the 31st. Even then, I will probably be pretty busy as I'm writing my master thesis, but I'm not ready to forfeit just yet, and will try to do finish the updates even if just for the fun of it.

Thomas
Title: Re: GRV-II Challenge No 7
Post by: mrbisonm on April 30, 2010, 10:14:46 PM
Judging of Challenge 7

Here's how we have or are about to judge your Challenge 7. Use this also to judge my version of the challenge 7. Again to judge my version of this Challenge is open to everyone, player, visitor or lurker. Thank you.

Points are given on a scale of 0 to 4 (0=insatisfactory, 1=acceptable, 2=Good, 3=very good, 4=excellent), and points are given on 5 subjects, plus 1 Bonus point for being on time, which could give us a total of 21 points for this challenge.(not including other Bonus points)

1. Industrial Park. Judged on where it is located compared to the maincity or town, not too far and not right in the middle of it neither and judged by its general looks compared to real life situations.

2. Commercial Center. Where is the commercial Center in a town or City? Usually right in the middle or not far from there. This is judged on the location and looks of the commercial Center, whether it is Service or Office (either one or both). Also judged by the size of it compared to the size of the town/ city.

3. Now ressources are judged by the location, looks and originality, plus ny the effort given (details etc) to make it look realistic. Details are important on this one since some resource "harvesting" can destroy the natural looks of the surounding area and cause a lot of pollution. I was looking for these signs.

4. Farming community. A Farming Community is either a village or small town surrounded by farms that offer most of the jobs for this community, directly or indirectly. Judged by the realistic looks of the farmlands that surround the village or town and the community itself.

5. Central Park. Like it says *Central*. Judged by the loctaion of the park and also by its size compared to the size of the town or city. A central park is not outside the town/ city, nor very small for a big city. Judge it as it looks close to reality.

Thanks
Fred