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Residential Demand Stuck in the Negatives

Started by woodb3kmaster, March 03, 2008, 04:24:42 PM

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woodb3kmaster

Hey, folks!

I've run into a real problem in my attempts to further develop the downtown city tile of my MD's city, Nyhaven. Residential demand for all wealth levels won't budge from its current position at around -5000 or so, which causes the tile's population to decrease and inhibits development. As I wrote in a reply in my MD (located in Recently Published), I've tried to jump-start demand by adding more CO jobs, which didn't work. I've also tried the more radical measure of enacting the modded Super Demand ordinance (from the early days of Simtropolis), which dramatically increases all commercial and industrial demand, but R demand stayed put.

Thus far, my readers have suggested either trying out the CAM (which, based on replies in my "On coming back to the SC4 community" thread in SC4 Community-Related, I am loath to do) or hunting through my residential plugins for a building with crazy capacity values. Since there are plenty of people here who are more knowledgable about the game's mechanics than I am, I'm putting the question to you. If asked, I can provide more information, including pictures of the RCI demand graph. I hope you all can help me resolve this problem soon!

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xxdita

Especially if this city is connected to a neighbor, check your taxes. Providing jobs isn't always enough. Your Sims let you know when they want the civic builings (police, fire, schools, & medical). Is your tile watered? Are you taking care of the city's garbage?
A few pictures of your city may help, including one snapshot of your Census Repository v2 info.

woodb3kmaster

As it happens, my R taxes were at 9%. I tried setting them to 7.5%, and demand zoomed into the stratosphere! Thanks for mentioning it.

Feel brand new. Be inspired.
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Nuclear City - 5/8

jonnyrocks

#3
Sorry for bringing up an old topic, but I figured it would be better to write in here than start a new one!
I'm having the same problem as the OP, but have tried dropping taxes etc, and nothing really helps. I downloaded a completed region from http://www.sc4ever.com/media/maxisland.cfm and have started to build a 'mini region' within this region.
After messing around with a few things, I discovered that when I built a neighbourhood connection, the demands for C and I were max, and R half that. However, once C or I were built, the R demand became negative and remained so until the connection is demolished again.

Is there anyway around this? I thought that it might be something to do with CAM, as I remember reading somewhere that you shouldn't instal it on half-completed regions.
Thanks in advance!

PS. Have just uninstalled CAM but did not seem to help...

RippleJet

Installing CAM in an existing, large region certainly will have an impact on the demand.
And especially on residential demand, as CAM causes the simulator to believe the regional residential capacity is doubled compared to what it in reality is.

Removing CAM after it's once been installed usually won't solve the problems either.
Especially not if you've already played the cities with CAM installed, and thus have saved your region with the doubled residential capacities.

debaser

Well I'm having the same problem.

Trash is taken care of.  Civic needs are met.  Utilities are met and I've used "HowDryIAm" etc to make double sure of it.  Not hitting against any caps.  There's nothing wrong with any of the cities in my region as far as this kind of thing goes.  I have CAM and had it installed prior to beginning the region. 

Say I have one city.  Population is a meager 39k.  Yet there are 200k commercial jobs and a ton of industrial jobs too.  Air quality and water pollution is good even in industrial districts.  I can zone more and they will appear.  Residential always remains negative.  Always. 

This has happened to the main city in my region, too, and well, most of them.  There are a couple on the outskirts that still have residential demand but there's no room to develop anything because of mountains and water.

I mean it's really bizarre.  Commercial demand is strong EVERYWHERE, but there are no new residents.  And the region poplation is only about 2.5 million or so.  1.4 million of them are in one city...the main city.  The demand was balanced there until recently.

Is this a problem with the CAM?  I would imagine is has to be.  I never had this problem before.