buzzits power project

[MandelSoft]

Looks great, Buzzit!

Can you try to recreate this dutch power line when you have time?:


Best,
Maarten

[Buzzit]

sure!
accually it was already planned in my mind to create that one as the 2nd dutch pylon. 
but it will take some time when i start with that one. i will construct atleast one for every country i listed until i start with others.

[Buzzit]

update
how the german one looks like in game next to the other models:

i only need to rewire and remodel(thinner down) the model
but it looks pretty good compared to the others

[MR.Y]

no problem. 2 things: 1st: Why do you make double cables? at the picture I show you you just can see single cables. 2nd: Maybe the texture could be al little bit darker...

I found more pictures with some pylons:

here you can see one in the background(I don't know if this is a help but more tham nothing)


when I comes there again I take some more pictures...

[Fresh Prince of SC4D]

The german pylon looks like a smaller version like the two in Cadiz, Spain. Also, where would I use them? They look too small to be close to urban areas.

[MandelSoft]

^^ Indeed. These power lines are commonly used in rural areas.

There's another adjustment you would need to make to the pylon: there is a cable running at the tip of the pylon. Probably this acts like a (how do you say that in English? Well, you're dutch, so you would know what I mean) "bliksemafleider", If lightning strikes the power line, it would likely strike at this cable, leaving all the other, power-carrying lines intact.

Best,
Maarten

[Buzzit]

MR.Y
the reason i did that is because i was thinking forward.
you see you got a really big pylon type wich carries lines in 3 'levels'

look at the left pylon and you know what i mean.
what i saw in Germany was that the small pylon is getting connected to the big one understand?
on the big pylon the highest level got 4 wires the  middle one got 4 and the one below got 2 also most 220KV pylons have multiple wires.
about the texture im not sure about that.. you see i want all my pylons to fit with eachother. there's maybe a better texture for them.. but that would mean that i have to retexture everything i have now and that would me i have to rerender and reupload everything again and that would costs days! i also know that german pylons use diffrent brownish cluster isolators
as you can see over here:

i'm not to lazy to create that but like i said before i want everything to fit with eachother. ther are things that i use my own imagination with because its still simcity. but it still have to look  a bit like the pylons you see in real life.
i hope you understand now. 
and thanks for the deviationpylon picture! i can use it pretty well!

FPoSC4D
jup thats correct!
and again correct
you see power grids don't use the same pylon for a reason
they send 380KV(or up) wires from powerplants  to powersubstations
at the power substation you get powers like 220/150/110KV etc wich spread arround to smaller substations were eventually  50/20KV pylons bring power to even lower voltages or to power farms and small villages
its a system i use in simcity 4 myself and its works pretty good!
thats the reason why im creating all these smaller ones. but after this one i will create a 380KV British one wich is pretty high again !

mrtnrln
SNAP! i totally forgot about that line!
thats so true.. ah damn! tobad i forgot that one on the others   !
oh well.. i learn from mistakes..
thanks for the advice! will give some more realism!

[Aaron Graham]

Keep it up your are always surprising me.

[MR.Y]

I understand a little bit^^

But I think with a single line it would look better, and this powerline is a...I think medium-voltage, what you show are really High-voltage-lines, which comes directly from the power plant.

[metarvo]

Good explanation, Buzzit.  Indeed, it's not all that different from the way substations work around here, apart from the different voltages.    Of course, I only wish there were pylons that big where I'm from.    Good work on the pylons, too.  I like the increase in variety that I'm seeing here.

By increasing it you could place your pylons further away from each other.

You know, Lowkee, I might have to try this out for myself.  I've been hearing that the poles are too close together in my set, so this would allow me to spread them out, although it would require more BATting.

[Buzzit]

Good explanation, Buzzit.  Indeed, it's not all that different from the way substations work around here, apart from the different voltages.    Of course, I only wish there were pylons that big where I'm from.    Good work on the pylons, too.  I like the increase in variety that I'm seeing here.



You know, Lowkee, I might have to try this out for myself.  I've been hearing that the poles are too close together in my set, so this would allow me to spread them out, although it would require more BATting.

MR.Y
yeh i will experiment with the wires and see whats best

but what you say aint correct.
look at this:

High voltage+:   
380kV to 220kV
   
starts from: Large powerplants like nuclear and other types wich generates massive amounts of MW's
end at:       Large substations or other large powerplants.   



High voltage:   
<220kV to 110kV

starts from : large to medium substations and smaller powerplants like coal powerplants or hydrodams.
ends @      : large to medium substations and industrial area's    

Medium voltage:
50kV to 10kV

Starts from: small substations
ends at     : farms, small villages and small industrial area's alike.    
   
Low voltage:
400V to 230V
starts from: medium voltage pylons/substations
end at      : your local household.
   

a good drawing that shows you wich is used for what but i think you would know it but for people who are curious about it they may learn from it   (note the height of the 380/220 combo tower!!)

here's another picture:

this is exactly what i mean and what i try to construct in the world of simcity for realistic distribution of power

Whats also pretty special in germany are traction current powerlines

and

these lines carry power for the supplyment of electric locomotives to keep it short 
one of the most noticable things is that these pylons carry circuits in 2,4 or 8 wires instead of the normal ,3,6 or 9.
if you don't know what i mean than count the isolators you will notice that most pylons have 3  or 6 isolators (since 9 and above is pretty rare)

hope people learned from it and  liked it!

Metarvo
haha thanks!
well you didn't seen anything just yet! europe got some really massive pylons! you should visit europe sometime haha!
but hows your work going man? made any small progress?

[Fresh Prince of SC4D]

Good presentation . I think i'll begin to use the same system.

[Sheep49]

I see that you're very deep into your project, and I have to say that while making a realistic system of distributing the power possible in SC4 may be a very hard job, I hope that you will be able to do it. Thanks for all your hard work on this subject!

All the best,
Piotr

[MR.Y]

hehe, the 1st picture I can understand really great^^

So and on the picture I gave you you can see a pylon for maybe 220-110kV, so it is 30m high. Next is, look at the 3rd picture, the richt line, there you can see, that this 30m-pylons just have a single cable...(and a single cable will look better at yours^^)

But a nice presentation

[Buzzit]

just to keep things up here
i paused the construction of the german pylon for a short while
and started(and almost completed) my first medium voltage set
wich is alot bigger then the high voltage ones
it contains a
- straight piece
- straight pieve diagonal
-  T junction piece
-  T junction diagonal piece
-  cross + piece
-  cross X(diagonal) piece
- corner piece left (90 degree and 45 degree)
- corner piece right(90 degree and 45 degree)
- end/start piece.

the reason why i first wanna complete and release this is because its really handy in powering up your rural areas
i really can't miss these anymore! and i think they make the powergrid alot more realistic

they are west european themed(they are seen in countries like Spain France Belgium and luxembourg
Holland doesn't have overhead medium voltage lines because thats all underground and the other european countries(like germany england etc have other types)

a picture showing some of them:

1st picture showing a + crossing and a start/end pylon (wich is functional! it generates 150MW of power):


a picture of the Tjunction:


A picture showing 90 degree corner pylons


A picture showing it in wider use(older picture without diagonals)

as you can see im using it pretty widely im trying to replicate small villages
unfortunately im not as good in simcity as i am in batting lol..

[Girafe]

Good work Buzzit 

I indeed prefer the small pylons (do you will release them without cables because they look no so good at farest zooms  and I would like to try "cablecar cables"  )

[Buzzit]

Good work Buzzit 

I indeed prefer the small pylons (do you will release them without cables because they look no so good at farest zooms  and I would like to try "cablecar cables"  )

thanks for the comment !
yeh offcourse! like the others these will eventually be released wireless!
i don't mind the tiny ones at the farest zoom
but like many im not a big fan of the farest zooms from the big pylons.
something i will look into in my next sets!

[Girafe]

 

glance at the cables made for my skilifts, I think it could be nice whitout being sure 

I tried it with phone poles and the result was quite good, think this picture is on the ballot 1 of the year picture competition 

[metarvo]

Hey, I remember this set!  It's good to see it up and running again. 

I usually create wired and wireless versions of my poles.  For one thing, the pylon models can be shared between the two versions.  The only difference is the inclusion of a separate model for the wires.  Perhaps more important is the fact that some want wires and some don't.  For instance, those who want to cross hillsides with ploppable power lines probably wouldn't want slope-unfriendly wires.  Even so, the wires do add an extra dimension to the pylons IMHO.  I've played around with slope friendly wire models for specialized slope friendly pylons, but these are only good for the angle they are created for.

[MR.Y]

hm...looks nice...

so for germany(I think it will come too), in leaving times next to small railways you everywhere found something like this. today most of them are cutted, so they dot't transfer energy, but the pylons are standing there. So maybe.....

today the normal medium-voltage pylons looks like this(without man^^)