new "real" Sim City in 2013

[catty]

In New Zealand

SimCity 4 Deluxe (UK Version) will cost me $49.99 (30.85 EURO / 41.51 US)

SimCity 2013 (Limited) will cost me $88.49 (54.62 EURO /  73.47 US)

-catty

[M4346]

If the game was worth anything I'd say we're having it quite good in South Africa then!

But, then again, this should be juxtaposed against the very steep cost of bandwidth. I guess that makes a significant difference.

[Reginasunrae]

The SimCity franchise, starting with SimCity Societies, has become a patronising, condescending gaming entity that underestimates my intelligence and ability, and pretends to know what is in my best interest and what I should need, want or pursue.

That happened before Societies. While they are under-estimating many people's intelligence they aren't underestimating the intelligence of the majority of their players. I also tend to get somewhat resentful when things like that are, for lack of any better way to describe it, I feel like someone's cramming something down my throat. Maxis started doing that with Sims2Pack files.

Imagine how I felt when I decided to rebuild my SC4 plug-ins folder which was already requiring a major commitment just to take on the task when during the installation of the plugins I was forced to use thousands of self-installers, many of which insisted on opening an HTML document with the read-me. I'm a reasonably intelligent person and if I decide not to read a readme when I install a file but need it later I will track that read-me down to the original archive I downloaded. At the same time I've also been on the creating end of that process and I can begin to imagine the frustrations that drove those creators to finally using a self-extractor. Even with read-mes at their fingertips there's a good number of people who will not refer back to them (probably didn't even realize they existed in the first place) but instead run to a forum to ask why something isn't working properly. These are the people EA deals with constantly. The sad fact is, the majority of people do want their hands held. They do want told what to do and how to do it. They don't want to have to think about how to have fun--those people are in the minority and usually the ones who turn out to be content creators of one type or another.

In the end EA doesn't care about me or anyone of us who might feel like this new game isn't targeting us. We are not significant. The important thing is that they make this game appeal to the broadest audience possible and that's what they believe they are doing. Whether it's true or not remains to be seen, but for now that's where they are.

[nettronic]

In New Zealand

SimCity 4 Deluxe (UK Version) will cost me $49.99 (30.85 EURO / 41.51 US)

SimCity 2013 (Limited) will cost me $88.49 (54.62 EURO /  73.47 US)

-catty

You don't have Steam in NZ? SimCity4 deluxe is 19.99

(Come to think of it that was what I paid instore WAY back when I bought Deluxe)

[Haljackey]

Hey guys, I wanted to let you know that I got into the SimCity (2013) Closed Dev. Beta.

I can't say more other than I'm in it at this point in time, but I'll keep you posted on any details that emerge!

If you have any concerns about the game that you want to address, let me know and I'll forward it to the developers.

[catty]

In New Zealand

SimCity 4 Deluxe (UK Version) will cost me $49.99 (30.85 EURO / 41.51 US)

SimCity 2013 (Limited) will cost me $88.49 (54.62 EURO /  73.47 US)

-catty

You don't have Steam in NZ? SimCity4 deluxe is 19.99

(Come to think of it that was what I paid instore WAY back when I bought Deluxe)

Go to

http://store.steampowered.com/

you mean, then yes

but I prefer to buy disks wherever possible, I bought Cities XL 2011 and Cities XL 2012 from Gamersgate about six months ago and I'm still downloading them ...

-catty

[vortext]

Surprise surprise; SimCity Will have an In-Game Store.

Did not see that coming . . right

[WC_EEND]

I'm going to call it now: modding unlock pack: €15/15$/£12

[Cod]

I'm going to call it now: modding unlock pack: €15/15$/£12

Not sure that will happen because if EA did unlock modding, DLC revenue would dry up very quickly.  I believe EA when they say modding will be available; however, its going to be a modding community that keeps picking at our pockets (like TF2).  I don't think free modding will exists since EA will probably make everyone sell through the in-game store.

[Diggis]

I'm going to call it now: modding unlock pack: €15/15$/£12

Not sure that will happen because if EA did unlock modding, DLC revenue would dry up very quickly.  I believe EA when they say modding will be available; however, its going to be a modding community that keeps picking at our pockets (like TF2).  I don't think free modding will exists since EA will probably make everyone sell through the in-game store.

And that is why the game won't survive. Why do you think SC4 is thriving 10 years later?

[Cod]

I'm going to call it now: modding unlock pack: €15/15$/£12

Not sure that will happen because if EA did unlock modding, DLC revenue would dry up very quickly.  I believe EA when they say modding will be available; however, its going to be a modding community that keeps picking at our pockets (like TF2).  I don't think free modding will exists since EA will probably make everyone sell through the in-game store.

And that is why the game won't survive. Why do you think SC4 is thriving 10 years later?

I completely agree with you.  All the SC 2013 talk online has got me reinstalling SC4 right now actually...

[metarvo]

I predict that some adventurous and skilled BATters who have both games may even try to BAT some SC2013 buildings into SC4 just to make them usable, if you know what I mean. 

I'm hanging onto SC4 and have no plans to buy SC2013 at the moment.  I agree with those here who say the new game is for a new group of players rather than us.  Ever since SC:S came out, I've thought that EA viewed the SC4 players (and the players of the earlier SC's) as a "fringe group" that it wants to get rid of.  It would seem as though they've succeeded insomuch as they've driven some of us away from playing the new game, or at the very least they've kept us from abandoning SC4.

[Diggis]

I predict that some adventurous and skilled BATters who have both games may even try to BAT some SC2013 buildings into SC4 just to make them usable, if you know what I mean. 

I'm hanging onto SC4 and have no plans to buy SC2013 at the moment.  I agree with those here who say the new game is for a new group of players rather than us.  Ever since SC:S came out, I've thought that EA viewed the SC4 players (and the players of the earlier SC's) as a "fringe group" that it wants to get rid of.  It would seem as though they've succeeded insomuch as they've driven some of us away from playing the new game, or at the very least they've kept us from abandoning SC4.

Heck, it's got a number of us returning to SC4. I freely admit I returned here seeking information on the new game and got reinfected with SC4.  [size=78%] Turns out it's more virulent[/size][size=78%] that I thought.[/size]

[NCGAIO]

....  I agree with those here who say the new game is for a new group of players rather than us.  Ever since SC:S came out, I've thought that EA viewed the SC4 players (and the players of the earlier SC's) as a "fringe group" that it wants to get rid of.  ...

Let's just say that the new game that some still insist on calling real simulator is intended to reach an audience more "profitable" and if it does not exist in large number a EA  already taking steps to increase it.

  - SimCity Coming to Classrooms With SimCityEDU


If this gonna work with this genre of game only the future can tell. I have my doubts.!

[Haljackey]

I kind of agree with this. SC4 is more of a macro game whereas SC13 is more micro. If you want to use the game to learn about 'civics' then I agree it could be a learning tool.

I remember back in my Grade 7 class I played SC3000 for a school project.

[z]

And what could be better for learning about real-life civics than this?

The "Heroes and Villains" set will allow players to have organized crime groups in their cities and provide the ability to upgrade police squads into superheroes. A "criminal mastermind" can be placed in a city using the "Dr. Vu's Evil Lair" object, which will provide plenty of high-tech development for the city until autonomous flying battle tanks begin to destroy it.

[Haljackey]

I'm sure the educational version won't have that expansion pack in it.

...One of the cheesiest things I've ever seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR-GjTN5IVs

[z]

...One of the cheesiest things I've ever seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR-GjTN5IVs

It looks like a very cute kids' game.

[Diggis]

...One of the cheesiest things I've ever seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR-GjTN5IVs

It looks like a very cute kids' game.

I was playing City of Heroes for 4 years before they shut it down....

[sunv123]

Yeah, it's basically a crime mod, which eradicates minor crime but increases major super villain crimes. A modded search light appears atop your main police station

I bet that's gonna be in the toy pack.