Transparent Surface Plopable water ... one step further ?¿

[Toichus Maximus]

Thanks for the link, FrankU. I've needed this for quite some time.

And I get what you're saying now, and I totally agree with you.

[ExiLe]

WOW, insane!.... I mean that looks insanely goodliziously breathtakingly nice

take care,

[ssc4k]

very nice  cant wait

[FrankU]

Two questions:
I see a lot of bridges over the ploppable water. Do you make these by using the rainmod and dragging roads over it, or is there another way? I thought SC4 didn't allow bridges except over ingame water? Or did I overlook ploppable and TE'd bridges?

Second: when using Gizmo's ploppable flora I see that the beautiful waterlillies grow under water, which is pity. Does anyone know how to change which value in the dat-file? Or should I ask Gizmo to do it for me?

I also experimented with canyons, canals, waterfalls, etc. Beautiful, beautiful. They get better every day.
I ask myself: when am I going to play the game again? I'm just terraforming and landscaping now... Big fun.

[jeronij]

FrankU, unfortunately the lillies are rendered at height=0 so they will stay always under the TPW unles you create a lot and place them up to 4 meters 

However, the model is freely available somewhere in the web, so it could be re-rendered again.... 


About bridges, I usually use the rain mod to place them easily or in more flat positions. However most of the bridges ( Maxis and custom) can be placed in land. But you must find the right position for it, which will not always be the desired one 

[FrankU]

Thanks Jeronij,
re-rendering is above my skilllevel and putting them on a Lot will probably not give a very useful solution. So maybe I have to live with it.. I will be able to succeed in this.

And the bridges: I didn't know this, but now I know enough.

[SimNation]

what id like o know is where did you get the water fall water from? Only waterfall water ive seen comes with Pegs pond...unless thats one of the things in JrJ's effects pack on the exchange.

[JayStimson]

Excellent job !!! The texture, color, and transparency are the best I've seen to date. After playing with the pieces a bit, my only thought for a change would be to try 1 meter raised instead of 4.

[Toichus Maximus]

Been working some more, came up with a couple of ideas using it, thought you all'd be interested:



Made a sort of channel for the water in my industrial zone using the viaduct for one side and the coal mine for the other. The channel needs to be deeper than you'd expect, and you need to carve it twice to be sure it works. Then the water gets a nice diverted effect. I got this idea from a brownfields site near my home.



I think this marsh came out better than the last one I did, ne?

[Heblem]

Toichus Maximus that lake looks sooo bautiful, make me eager to use this transparent plopable water 

[FrankU]

Cabal and marsh are beautiful. This weekend I also did some experiments and I am getting the feeling of it. The lots are awfully useful. Jeronij, you don't know how great these plops are....

SimNation, the waterfall lots are, I suppose, Dedgren's waterfalls (downloaded them myself but did not yet use them...). You can find them here:

http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=16394

Funny enough not on SC4Devotion.

[SimNation]

FrankU,

Thanks a mil I couldnt find waterfalls anywhere, would be nice if it woulda been made to plop below the transparent plop water by the effect stay level with it. Id do it myself but don have a clue how to do that sorta stuff.

[dogfight]

Hello. I'm curious. Isn't the TPW supposed to work both on land and in the water? I was under the impression that the "WaterFlora" Property when set to "True" is supposed to get plop's to work in water . For some reason The TPW isn't working in water for me. Can someone help clarify this?
Thanks..

[jeronij]

Hello. I'm curious. Isn't the TPW supposed to work both on land and in the water? I was under the impression that the "WaterFlora" Property when set to "True" is supposed to get plop's to work in water . For some reason The TPW isn't working in water for me. Can someone help clarify this?
Thanks..

Nothing wrong with your installation  . You are experiencing one of the actual limitations of the TPW . It conflicts with the real water, so you must carefully "fake" the transitions    .

[Ennedi]

In fact, the conflict between Jeronij's TPW and the ingame water can happen - exactly as with other ploppable water - only if you use some particular water mods (for example Mayor Bean Ocean River Mod).

I showed Jeronij's TPW placed on the river bed in this thread. You can see it here.

As you can read in my message, if you want to see Transparent Ploppable Water placed on the river bed, the water depth should be max 4 m.
I showed also very good Derbert's picture (he also placed TPW into the ingame water). Here is the complete Derbert's message.

I use PEG's Brigantine Water Mod and I can place TPW and other ploppable water in the ingame water without any problems (but it need some work to achieve a good effect).
This theme will be discussed in my MD in the near future - I'm very sorry for my absence, it's temporary, i have too much work in RL now

Edit: You can see two other interesting messages below my message: Derbert's explanation (how he did it), and Chrisadams' attempt, very good done too.

[dogfight]

Thanks all. I'll have to take a look at the threads and see what I can do

[Ennedi]

I must add I'm not surprised Jeronij's opinion - he probably has another water mod. Ploppable water was used in connection with an ingame water only by a few people and there were no serious investigation of this problem (in fact it's rather secondary problem for most people  ).
So if someone tries to put the PW into the ingame water and it doesn't work, he rather don't check what will happen if he will change the water mod, he rather thinks the reason is the PW's behaviour. In fact, I don't know why PW works well with some water mods and doesn't work with others, I would like to check it.

[gmavignier]

First off I want to say I have been away from Sim City for some time now but now I am back only to see this AMAZING new water texture by Jeronij. The only thing I can say is I admire people like you here in SCD that take so much time off real life just just give us amazing mods. Thank you all very much.

Now I have a quick question. Where can I find this grass?

I looked for it on Gizmo's site but I already have his water flora mod and I still can't find that grass. Could anyone post me a link please?

Thanks in advance and once again congratulations on the fine work!

[Derbert]

The Grass is available in Jeronij Prop Pack Vol04 - Trees

[jeronij]

gmavignier, nice to see you around here again and thanks for the comments. I am glad you like the new TPW 
Derbert, thanks for that useful link