Jeronij's Urban Residential Canals

[kimcar]

    Very good work . The transition is very well done . It's cool that we can use different canals with your`s . 

[SimFox]

I hear my name has been mentioned here...
What can I do you for?!

[rooker1]

I think they look fantastic, although I may agree about the grass, it does seem a little bright?  But I don't have any paticular suggestion on how to fix it.  Over all awesome work.

[SimFox]

Ok, now I've had time to look through all pages of this thread.
You idea of using particles to simulate effect of waterfall is a right one and I must say realized pretty good.
Few comments I could make are - water is a bit too dark blue... lighten it up! only deep, deep sea may have (SOMETIMES!!!) this color. and when you set particles system make sure then it emits constant stream of particles through out the entire set period of time(frames). at the moment you have sort of stipe effect as you particles emitted in "portions" followed by some odd looking "pauses".
but overall there is very good progress!
Reflection wise clouds are about worst possible thing to pick! First of all there aren't clouds always in the sky to produce those. secondly clouds should cast shadows and there are none of those seen around. Thirdly there isn't such a thing as generic, neutral cloud - they are very VERY recognizable - this is why you always see the repetition no matter how tilable you texture is!
What would work much better is some reflection of the Sun - imitations of those - they could either be faked in Photoshop, or produced during the render with properly set materials and lighting.
If you use Max I would recommended to take a closer look at Mental Ray if you haven't done it already. Unlike V-Ray it almost absolutely compatible with BAT and in newer versions (like 3,5 supplied with MAX9) produces result to rival the best solutions that are out there. In Fact Mental Ray always been top rendering engine - top choice for big ticket movies like Matrix and Poseidon.
If you have any particular questions ask - will be happy to help with what I can!

[MAS71]

Wow!?
What a beatiful canals it is!!

I intend to understand that difficulty to express the Natures(water,trees...) by BAT.
so I want to use this works early!!

However,
I have one idea about canals water(color) always.
Can I arbitrarily change it by using the Texture pack?? Just like a "BSC Parks"
(I think it's no bad idea...)


It looks forward to the continued report.

[jeronij]

Hello again,

thanks to all for the feedback   
Now, about your comments:

Grass too bright:  Well, once you place some flora there it will look much better 

Water too dark: I agree, but after a week making testing with textures, this is the best I can do actually 

MAS71, I dont think this will be possible for the first version, sorry, I am having troubles with only 1 water texture, so the more water textures, the more problems I will have. Maybe for a next version / updtate

SimFox, thanks for stopping here and for your feedback and help. I admit I am a total newbie when it comes to 3DMax advanced features, and I feel really proud of what I did so far  . I understand it could be done in a better and more realistic way, but my level is this actually. I do appreciate your suggestions about the different render engines. Again I say I am learning 3DStudio using online tutorials and my brain, and there are way too many options that I am not aware of. It is good to know that I can experiment with Mental Ray as well 

Thanks to all for the comments and constructive criticism  . I wont rush to release these canals, and I am trying to apply all your suggestions here, but I know that some of them wont we applicable to the final release 

[metasmurf]

Please consider including an overhanging piece that can be used underneath nam pieces/bridges

[Fred_Ginger]

Take your time Jeronij, we wouldn't want you to release something you're not happy with, although from most post I get the feeling that "Patience" is not one of our collective virtues

[Tarkus]

Hi Jeroni-

These new canals are looking spectacular!  Actually, the water color looks just right to me.  Looks like this should fit well with the new region I'm planning which will more than likely end up using the Painted Desert terrain mod.   

Take as much time as you need--I know how these things go.

-Tarkus

[Cali]

still waiting....tic...toc...tic...toc

[Shadow Assassin]

These look awesome.

Don't forget to do diagonals!

[bat]

Your canals are looking beautiful and wonderful transitions!

[jeronij]

Hello to all again,

I have been making the last pieces for the first set. I have made a 2x2 water lot, and a 1x3 Straight canal piece. Finally I have made the universal bridge pieces, which will be also used as the end pieces. There are three. Right and left corner, and a central piece, which included 3 different models for variety. I hope you like them 

[kimcar]

  Great progress é I like them very much . Can`t wait for use it.

[Gaston]

Jeronij,
     These are looking really great.    I can't wait to try them in a city.    I love the reflection of the "bridge" piece.     Very impressive indeed.


---Gaston

[NikNik]

Well it's me Jeronij. I started from the back, first download from LEX and then go to the thread and give my comments.

Comments.....Well let's see.....mmmmm.....
Do not forget what your initial plan for these canals were:

new series of Canals, I know, I know, there are some already...  , which are designed to fit better in template/warm regions. I will call this one Mediterranean Urban Residential Canals

You dropped the palm trees which was a sensible idea (as Badsim put it they tend to be repetitive).

I guess these canals are more for recreational purposes than anything else (of course in the past they were used for transport to the warhouses etc. but SC4 is a game modelled for contemporary cities). The SG and PEG canals are more industrial canals and would be great to combine with these. I guess with your Urban Residential Canals some gondola's would be more fitting than with SG's. So if you could add these (together with diagonals, overlay pieces, and additional 1x1 pieces with steps etc etc.) it would be great.

Just my two cents.

NIk-Nik

[jacqulina]

wow this is awesome work,excellent detail

[Gaston]

Jeronij,
     NikNik said :

I guess these canals are more for recreational purposes than anything else (of course in the past they were used for transport to the warhouses etc. but SC4 is a game modelled for contemporary cities). The SG and PEG canals are more industrial canals and would be great to combine with these. I guess with your Urban Residential Canals some gondola's would be more fitting than with SG's. So if you could add these (together with diagonals, overlay pieces, and additional 1x1 pieces with steps etc etc.) it would be great.

That suggestion is what I was trying to say all along in a nutshell.    I never say this but "DITTO" to NikNik.         ( Scary, like NikNik read my mind.  )   


---Gaston

[FromTheAshes]

Under which name can I find these in the LET? Wanted to create some LOTs myself 

[Gaston]

Under which name can I find these in the LET? Wanted to create some LOTs myself

FromTheAshes,
           They haven't been released yet.   Sorry.    We are all waiting for them.   LOL


---Gaston