GRV II-Challenge No 1

mrbisonm · March 18, 2009, 05:08:56 PM

You think you're confused? If you all continue like this I will be confused.......lol

Intersections of a road and a rail is allowed. I don't call this *intersections* though, these are crossings.

You are not allowed to have a road turn or separate into two directions. The road must go through the region in one draw only (no turnoffs or roadintersections)without turning off here and there, but is allowed to be crossed by the rails up to a thousand times (if you want to and if you can) The same for the rail.

ouffffffff....that was hard to explain, hope it is.

Now, I wanted a picture from either tile B, E or H because somewhere down the road you just have to go through one of them, right? So, where you crossed these, I want a picture of it. You can go through all three of them and I only want to see one picture of these three, but I want a picture of one of those three with a road.

I really have to re-write all my challenges now so misunderstandings don't happen anymore.

.....lol

mightygoose · March 18, 2009, 05:49:50 PM

jeez i thought it was pretty simple to understand the first time....

Pat · March 18, 2009, 06:39:48 PM

I am sorry there Fred!!! I hope my question wasnt to much??? It for a change wasnt about intersections as I knew the answer was a NO

Well John I thought at first it was understandable but then everyone kept asking something and trying to read to make sure I dont say something dumb lol.... I just gotten thrown off and I wanted to make sure I was right on with my thinking...

mrbisonm · March 19, 2009, 05:18:59 AM

Quote from: Pat on March 18, 2009, 06:39:48 PM
I am sorry there Fred!!! I hope my question wasnt to much??? It for a change wasnt about intersections as I knew the answer was a NO

Well John I thought at first it was understandable but then everyone kept asking something and trying to read to make sure I dont say something dumb lol.... I just gotten thrown off and I wanted to make sure I was right on with my thinking...

I thought I had made it simple too in the beginning, but as you said Pat, when everyone started asking questions, there was a moment even I was in doubt.....lol. Don't worry about asking questions, I am here to answer them and please don't be sorry to do so please. I just find it funny how things sometimes turn out or become. It proofs the theory of the most simple things sometimes can become the most challenging.

mrb

MandelSoft · March 20, 2009, 07:00:33 AM

Two questions:

~~1. Am I allowed to use a RHW-4 for Route 10? (I'm a bit of a highway freak, so the first route in the region is a inter-regional main route)~~ Should have read the rules first!
2. Is it allowed to make intersections (or exits) on the route and the railway after Challenge 1 ends?

Best,
Maarten

Rayden · March 20, 2009, 07:06:50 AM

Quote from: mrtnrln on March 20, 2009, 07:00:33 AM
Two questions:

1. Am I allowed to use a RHW-4 for Route 10? (I'm a bit of a highway freak, so the first route in the region is a inter-regional main route)

From what I heard, no. Any HW is not allowed.

2. Is it allowed to make intersections (or exits) on the route and the railway after Challenge 1 ends?

From what I have understood yes, but only on one of this tiles B, E or H, and only after your challenge has been acknowledged by MrB

Best,
Maarten

But MrB will certanly clear that for you.

mrbisonm · March 20, 2009, 08:00:03 AM

Quote from: mrtnrln on March 20, 2009, 07:00:33 AM
Two questions:

~~1. Am I allowed to use a RHW-4 for Route 10? (I'm a bit of a highway freak, so the first route in the region is a inter-regional main route)~~ Should have read the rules first!
No

2. Is it allowed to make intersections (or exits) on the route and the railway after Challenge 1 ends?

Rayden is right on, after the challenge only, you may play and do whatever you 'd like to do
in either tiles B,E or H (one tile only), ............BUT, always respect the rules, no highway!

Best,
Maarten

Fred

Any positive or negative comments how you have liked the experience of the first challenge yet? Building a road and rails through a wild region is not as easy as you thought, right?

BarbyW · March 20, 2009, 08:04:51 AM

No, Fred, especially as we don't know what you have up your sleeve in the way of future challenges.
I liked this idea of road and rail into an empty region. It did make me think about what I might do with future development.

Rayden · March 20, 2009, 08:14:15 AM

Quote from: BarbyW on March 20, 2009, 08:04:51 AM
No, Fred, especially as we don't know what you have up your sleeve in the way of future challenges.
I liked this idea of road and rail into an empty region. It did make me think about what I might do with future development.

Like Barb said, it's not just laying down the road/rail, you'll have to plan ahead, specially taking into account what may come from your side. I'm sure you'll not make our work any easy

So far, I'm enjoying this a lot, specially because there is so much skilled people involved, which makes things more interesting, nothing better than a little competition among us.

jmyers2043 · March 20, 2009, 09:29:42 AM

I didn't find it hard per se. But it make me think which is something I don't usually do

Rail usually brought raw materials to the city centers. Coal at point A. Get it to point B with little or no fuss. The purchase right of way is a secondary consideration to topographical ones. Do I plan a rail so the workers have to bore a tunnel through a mountain or hill or do I around it? Long expansive bridge across the widest part of a river?. Or take advantage of a geographical helper such as an island? What would the early rail road planners have done? That was fun. Whimsy - realism - which to choose. Hmmm.

Roads on the other hand support and sustain existing communities. Build a road and they will come? No, first they come then the highways. How did I deal with challenge 1? I first built the town in my minds eye then attempted to place the future route 10 as the main street of my minds eye. That was the tough and a different thing to do.

A positive experience you wish to know? First I get a chance to play the game the way it supposed to be played. Not the competition per se as much as I'll try to stretch myself creatively. There are a number of good CJ'ers here. Second, this is a different experience because I usually merely zone for a community in the middle of my large city and move outward with little or no thought. If I don't like what I see I merely pull rank on the city planner. Wave my mayoral zoning wand around wildly and – poof – countryside, roads, and rails all vanish in favor of my new design. I suspect that I that I've already 'painted myself into a corner' depending on the challenges to come. I can't wait to see if I'll be able to paint myself out.

Kitsune · March 21, 2009, 09:16:34 AM

Regular Rails, is STR allowed? Because where I grew up, the main lines are STR with a few sidings for passing trains...

BarbyW · March 21, 2009, 11:20:11 AM

I think Fred has already said that for the initial rail route it must be regular rails. Once this is done I imagine he will allow STR as you develop your region.

mrbisonm · March 21, 2009, 11:51:26 AM

Kitsune, like BarbyW said, only regular rails are allowed and/or all the ploppables pieces that look like the original Maxis ones. If you live in Canada like your flag says, make it look like the CN or CP rails out in the countryside. (double rail only)

Good luck

mrb

RustyXL · March 21, 2009, 02:52:25 PM

Once we complete Challenge 1 can we only develop either tile B, E, or H, or can we develop more than one of those tiles?

Rayden · March 21, 2009, 03:02:15 PM

Quote from: RustyXL on March 21, 2009, 02:52:25 PM
Once we complete Challenge 1 can we only develop either tile B, E, or H, or can we develop more than one of those tiles?

Only one of them.

MandelSoft · March 22, 2009, 03:17:06 AM

Another question: am I allowed to build RHW-2? The rules say that it's not allowed to build any highways, but I don't count a RHW-2 as a highway, but as a provincial road, at the most.

metarvo · March 22, 2009, 04:46:57 AM

Quote from: mrtnrln on March 22, 2009, 03:17:06 AM
Another question: am I allowed to build RHW-2? The rules say that it's not allowed to build any highways, but I don't count a RHW-2 as a highway, but as a provincial road, at the most.

No. RHW-2 is still a highway for GRV-II.

I'm sure this has been asked before, and the answer was no. Fred may choose to explain it in more detail.

mrbisonm · March 22, 2009, 06:56:30 AM

Like it says in the rules. anything that can be transformed easily into a highway is NOT allowed to build, such as RHW, twin roads, Boulevards in smaller towns or in the country.
The reason for this is simple, we would like to *see* your headaches when we get to the matter of building a highway in your already developped cities or countrysides. This is to test your talent as a mayor of the higher standards.
If you already have a RHW (for example) it will be easy for you to just bulldoze and re-plop a hgwy, right?
Good luck.

Thanks to all the folks that help me out answering questions.

Fred

Rayden · March 22, 2009, 07:03:53 AM

Quote from: mrbisonm on March 22, 2009, 06:56:30 AM
If you already have a RHW (for example) it will be easy for you to just bulldoze and re-plop a hgwy, right?

Actually I don't think there is need to buldoze, it's just a matter of building another one next to it an it becames a 4 lane RHW.

Diggis · March 22, 2009, 07:23:20 AM

Mr B, RHW 2 is a single tile network like the road. I think that is why people are getting confused as it is intended for the purpose you are asking us to do.

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