The Prime Road Avenue (PRA) Project

[kbieniu7]

Tarkus, It remind me some screen made by Ennedi

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/3573/rhwnoroadtransyesws1.jpg

http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=990.msg105801#msg105801

[nerdly_dood]

I think the American version of what he's thinking of would be a US highway without paved shoulders - those are our main routes around here, if you ignore interstates. They are sometimes built to interstate standards with paved shoulders and offramps and whatnot, but often they have at-grade intersections and steeper slopes etc, and sometimes they're 4 lanes but sometimes 2 or 6 (with an occasional extra climbing lane on long uphill slopes for trucks)... I do agree that this would be a good idea.

[jmvl]

It's great to see this new project here, Maarten. I think this is really something that we're all, including me, missing in the game. I'd be happy to help you on creating the Puzzle Pieces. If you like I can share all my knowledge about making Puzzle Pieces (in Dutch) with you. Just send me a PM if you're interested.

Also, should the "Prime Road" Avenues also be pathed for pedestrians? Maybe it's better to make all Puzzle Pieces with and without the paths for pedestrians because I think pedestrians aren't allowed to walk here on Rijksweg 11, but I think they are allowed to walk here in Den Haag (The Hague) Wassenaar near the underpass under the N44 (here is even something typical Dutch, (red paved) bicycles lanes).

[darraghf]

Well here in Ireland, pedestrians are allowed to walk on the equivilant of a prime road. I think pedestrians should be able to walk on the road.

[Blue Lightning]

I can probably help here on the puzzle piece and override end... We can have this be a RHW-style override but with the avenue without to much extra work.

(and for those of you who think that two tile network overrides are impossible, think again )

Vince

[MandelSoft]

I'm trying to clear some things up. The PRA is based upon the Maxis Avenues and will look pretty much the same as standard avenues, but there are visual and functional differences between the PRA and normal avenues:
- Unlike the Avenue and like Motorways, the PRA has no sidewalks (that's for the same reason why motorways have no sidewalks).
- The PRA will not be draggable, at least not in the first place. It's going to be a puzzle-piece based override of the Avenue network, just like the Rural Roads from dedgren. The only exceptions are the ramps, that are using MIS ramps.
- The PRA will have custom puzzle pieces for turning lanes and intersections, so you can create advanced turning lanes setup. How you do it, is all up to you. Lane setup and lane length are completly customizeable. That's an advantage of puzzle-piece-overrides in comparision with RUL override.
- The PRA will have A-ramps and B-ramps, and maybe C-ramps and D-ramps.
- Because it looks pretty much the same as a normal avenue, maybe there is no need for a transistion piece.

Well, it looks like I have enough support to start the project. I'll make some textures now. Let's hope that this project will be a success!

Best,
Maarten

[io_bg]

The idea of these PRAs is quite good. I wish you good luck with it!

[WC_EEND]

I like this idea alot, there goes the RHW-8 I used as a ring road....

*sound of road that is being demolished*

[metasmurf]

How will the median look like?

[DFire870]

I think the American version of what he's thinking of would be a US highway without paved shoulders - those are our main routes around here, if you ignore interstates. They are sometimes built to interstate standards with paved shoulders and offramps and whatnot, but often they have at-grade intersections and steeper slopes etc, and sometimes they're 4 lanes but sometimes 2 or 6 (with an occasional extra climbing lane on long uphill slopes for trucks)... I do agree that this would be a good idea.

Yep, that sounds like it. The US Route system. Although when it's NOT built to interstate standards it usually has at-grade intersections with every road except for major roads (other US Routes for example).

It also reminds me of some roads here in the Austin area that aren't US Route, they're Farm-to-Market routes. Except they're usually 2 lanes.

-- John

[jmvl]

- The PRA will not be draggable, at least not in the first place. It's going to be a puzzle-piece based override of the Avenue network, just like the Rural Roads from dedgren. The only exceptions are the ramps, that are using MIS ramps.
- The PRA will have custom puzzle pieces for turning lanes and intersections, so you can create advanced turning lanes setup. How you do it, is all up to you. Lane setup and lane length are completly customizeable. That's an advantage of puzzle-piece-overrides in comparision with RUL override.

That's great Maarten! Completly customizeable intersections is something I always really wanted in SimCity 4. Finally I'll be able to rebuild the Julianaplein in Groningen as well making some of my "big" traffic light controlled intersections in my cities more realistic. I'm also glad to hear that the "Prime Road" Avenues will be a Puzzle Piece based override of the avenue network instead of a RUL override. This will be a lot easier (and less frustrating) for the player.

[MandelSoft]

Here are the first prime road textures (US version, since the majority of SC4D lives in North America):








Best,
Maarten

[io_bg]

Wow nice textures!

[sithlrd98]

Wow...you are quick! Looks real good!

Jayson

[Blue Lightning]

Wow those look really good! 

Vince

[Dexist]

looks cool man! us version just looks ugly to me, but well i  am used to european roads.

[kbieniu7]

Maybe something like this could be made based on road? 

[WC_EEND]

sweet!, are there going to be european versions as well? (just asking)

[bob56]

Looks Great!!! I think this will be a great project. One suggestion would to have them have different textures than the RHW, or make a euro set. That way, you could (or i would at least) have for example, RHW US textures and this Euro, or vice versa, just to tell the difference. 

Can't wait to see more!!

[Fresh Prince of SC4D]

sweet!, are there going to be european versions as well? (just asking)

Maybe Nique will let them use his incompleted RHW-2 textures for the euro textures.