The envelope is pushed even further......ingame water at higher elevation level

Madeira aka Constantina · September 17, 2007, 12:23:27 PM

fairly good start. i hope you can acheive it. good luck.

Filasimo · September 17, 2007, 01:08:09 PM

Sorry I kept ya guys in the dark after announcing this. After a few attempts and this is for whoever wants to tweak it themselves. by setting the sealevel and max sealevel properties in the terrain controllers of most terrain mods to their desired level it will only raise it to the sealevel specified and sorry all thats the only thing you could possibly do with it you still cannot have water at multiple elevations in one region. i know i was disappointed as well. the only positive of tweaking the sealevel properties in the terrain controllers is that you can have water past the default maxis 200 settings. aside from tweaking the water level you will have to tweak other settings as well with the terrain controller. i myself have not messed with it bc i have been real busy with RL stuff when i found out about this. to developers making terrain mods: feel free to tinker with the sealevel settings and the other settings accustomed to it. players will love to have terrain mods with sealevels higher for maps that have higher terrain. i hope this answers alot of questions and again i had struck fools gold instead of gold

, then again it still will be useful for terrain mod developers to raise the water level and have water present at a higher level plane (not multiple)

dragonshardz · September 17, 2007, 03:44:46 PM

O man, that is a pity.

Well my hopes are dashed.

*lightbulb*

wait, gizmo's mod? Which one?

(sorry, jeroni! (apparently sucks is inappropriate. OOPS!

))

RippleJet · September 17, 2007, 04:04:50 PM

Despite being discouraging, a good post, Ryan!

It takes a man to admit he cannot deliver up to expectations, and move on to his next project.

Quote from: dragonshardz on September 17, 2007, 03:44:46 PM
wait, gizmo's mod? Which one?

Gizmo's Weather Effect Mod is available at his site: http://gizmo.lunarpages.com/index.php

Pat · September 17, 2007, 09:11:24 PM

Ryan you are a true man!!! A real man admitts when he has bitten off more then he can chew...

I admire you for trying and that is the best thing you did you tried to git r done!!! - pat

thundercrack83 · September 17, 2007, 09:16:57 PM

Well, good shot at this, my friend! What you've done already is very good, though!

figui · September 17, 2007, 09:57:23 PM

would have been great. but anyway, we're getting used with ploppable water..

thank you for trying and experimenting..

jeronij · September 18, 2007, 07:04:03 AM

Maybe next time then

Dont discourage

, who knows what is still waiting for us inside these dat files....

Filasimo · September 18, 2007, 07:09:08 AM

Thanks for all the kind words guys. As I have mentioned you can still edit the water levels and have it at a higher elevation than the default maxis level. So in a way there are still benefits to my findings. If anyone is interested in trying to tweak the water levels and other settings I would love for you to post a pic of what you come up with.

my kind regards,
Ryan

Madeira aka Constantina · September 18, 2007, 08:51:46 AM

please dont give up because there is always a way when a humble dat file holds the key to terrain water level.

Filasimo · September 18, 2007, 09:16:30 AM

Madeira: Im not giving up but pretty much passing the torch to anyone who knows more about the game coding than I do. I only stumbled onto the water level properties like some have. Thanks for stopping by though!

dragonshardz · September 20, 2007, 08:04:42 PM

Well, Filasimo, let's hope someone takes up the torch OR that you make a brilliant discovery...

GMT · September 23, 2007, 07:39:05 AM

nothing more to say

Shadow Assassin · September 24, 2007, 02:23:50 AM

Well, because you've edited the water level: it'd be a breakthrough for allowing multiple levels of water in a particular region (not city tile, though...). It's still an improvement.

buckbeach · October 26, 2007, 05:54:43 PM

Quote from: Filasimo on September 18, 2007, 09:16:30 AM
Madeira: Im not giving up but pretty much passing the torch to anyone who knows more about the game coding than I do. I only stumbled onto the water level properties like some have. Thanks for stopping by though!

Just lost a post and my detailed train of thought. To summarize, I know this is a dead thread and issue (currently) but had to sound off. "Real Water" above sea level exists. Gizmo's rain work does fill the mountain depressions with water that support water only lots and items. There are to many very smart people in our hobby here and elsewhere, to think they will never break into the solution. It's there even if Maxis wouldn't or couldn't do it.

I am pleased to see that the issue keeps being surfaced by people such as you, to keep it in front of the faces of those geniuses until their collective light bulb goes on.

Thank you very much for your efforts.

dragonshardz · October 27, 2007, 05:59:25 PM

well, buckbeach, ~~madeira~~ filasimo has tried ~~her~~ his best and has passed the modd to anyone who thinks they have an idea. True, the rain modd (by Teirusu) does work at higher elevations, but the water is not saved and the tool itself is tricky to work with. It is handy for landbridges and making dry lakes where waterbuildings were once built though.

Edit: corrected names and was more specific.

mrbisonm · November 01, 2007, 09:34:50 PM

Seeing that we won't get any better results out of this with the multilevel watermod, has anyone ever tried to continue the rainmod from gizmo and maybe have it made that it CAN be saved? Or is this really impossible? That would be great though.
I am not a Modder whatsoever, never have been and surely never will be, but I think with what all the SC4 Modders have achieved in the last years with this game, they probably would be able to find a way to have that rainmod made savable.
Good luck and keep on thinking and modding, making this game even better and more interesting than ever.

mrbisonm

Filasimo · November 01, 2007, 10:05:23 PM

@dragonshardz....my my did you miss the memo? madeira aka She Who Will Not Be Named aka constantia aka thomasine aka daddysbabysmomma (nothing related) had nothing to do with this rain mod other than gizmo and the other modders that came before me with failed attempts and for your answer bison due to the fact of the save game issue where most modders hit a dead end its always unfortunate thats where the end of the road lies unless someone discovers a way around it.....as for dragonshardz please have a banana and just breathe sit relax, take a breather or two.... ya been a bit hyper the past few weeks mkay?

dragonshardz · November 02, 2007, 09:25:02 PM

sorry, filasimo, i changed subjects rather abruptly didn't I?

what i meant to say was that ~~Maderia aka She Who Will Not Be Named, etc, etc, has gone~~ my bad, you, Filasimo, had gone as far as you can with this particular modd and that Teirusu's rain modd works at any elevation but the water is not saved. Good greif, I feel dumb.

Yeah, i have been hyper haven't I? I guess that once i get on a particu;lar train of thought, i just charge ahead. Oops! Oh, well, only human aren't I? Case in point: the semicolon in the word particular.

DrPepper · January 03, 2008, 09:11:15 AM

You know what would be more useful? If the water level was lower so we can make mountains seem taller. Am I right? Because we can't really get mountains to go as high as we want. Maybe lowering the water level will make mountains seem taller and larger. Maxis does have some errors. Maybe you can fix it.

By the way, Nice Mod, keep up the good work!