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Right now, I have been wondering painstakingly about one thing and just realized another that is a pressing issue.

The first wonder is when will the Professional Center get the advertised plop? One was promised but never came. It might also be a good idea to just redo it with the same model on a different lot (CAMpatible, of course.)

The second pressing issue is something called the CAM. Today, we saw light in that you turned 33 lots into CAMpatible work. But that's only a slice of the pie, because you've got 10 times that. These CAM lots should also include formerly STEX- and PLEX-exclusive lots, given that the CAM is SC4DLEX-exclusive. That's something from 300 to 375 lots there. One question: do the 33 new CAMpatibles overwrite existing grown and plopped lots? If they do, I'll happily upgrade.

Thank you for listening,
Tracker

I think your queries relating to the CAMeLOTS will be better addressed by Barbyw as she CAMified them. :)

Quote from: M4346 on August 29, 2007, 06:31:20 PM
I think your queries relating to the CAMeLOTS will be better addressed by Barbyw as she CAMified them. :)

Ah well. That's why I posted it here too. ;)

Tracker, read this thread by Barby: http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2211.0

You need to remove the old lots (by Cleanitol) before installing the CAMpatible ones ;)

Tracker, I shall be uploading the ploppable lots as the final upload of the commercials. I have made, specially for you, the plop version of the Professional Centre. There are not many CAM only lots in all of these commercials - and I am doing ALL of them - but they have been updated with stats via wou's X Tool. This means that the older ones will fit better into the Maxis standard as we have all learned a lot since SG posted hsi first BATs.

Quote from: RippleJet on August 29, 2007, 10:25:18 PM
Tracker, read this thread by Barby: http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2211.0

You need to remove the old lots (by Cleanitol) before installing the CAMpatible ones ;)

Are they the same IIDs? Do they overwrite the nonCAMpatible lots?

Also: that Prof Center was long overdue. Good model, but when SG redid his plop, it never went to STEX. Anywhere.

They are the same IIDs but for many the filename has been changed and also they now come in dats for quicker loading. They will not overwrite the lots as a result but lots in existing cities will not be affected. You will need to use the Cleanitol file to either remove the old stuff manually or through BSC Cleanitol^TM

Quote from: BarbyW on September 01, 2007, 10:47:37 AM
They are the same IIDs but for many the filename has been changed and also they now come in dats for quicker loading. They will not overwrite the lots as a result but lots in existing cities will not be affected. You will need to use the Cleanitol file to either remove the old stuff manually or through BSC Cleanitol^TM

Been running Cleanitol quadruple-overtime today to get all of this. Plus, they're CAMpatible!

P.S. When will the plops be uploaded? Will it be one download or several? I'd like to play, but these plops worry me that my biggest city ever (700K, Barby; what's your largest?) will crash. Also, the Prof Center plop is tantalizing my SimCity-custom-content-tastebuds.

The plops will be uploaded when they are ready. This has been a mammoth task and the plops are more difficult to sort out than the growables. You can be sure that they will not be uploaded until we are happy that they will all work properly although as few BSC use plops we cannot say if they will crash a city. Better take a back up before using any of these.
There are well over 100 lots excluding the Adult ones and they will be uploaded in one installer but as separate dats so you can delete any sets you do not want.
Patience and they will arrive eventually.

Quote from: BarbyW on September 01, 2007, 11:07:41 AM
The plops will be uploaded when they are ready. This has been a mammoth task and the plops are more difficult to sort out than the growables. You can be sure that they will not be uploaded until we are happy that they will all work properly although as few BSC use plops we cannot say if they will crash a city. Better take a back up before using any of these.
There are well over 100 lots excluding the Adult ones and they will be uploaded in one installer but as separate dats so you can delete any sets you do not want.
Patience and they will arrive eventually.

Estimate the percentage of completion for Operation SimGoober CAMification Of Plops, LEX Goddess Barby.

For you, Tracker, about 3 years next monthday

In the famous words of Filasimo "it will be ready when they are ready"
Tracker Barby is a very busy bee and she is trying to change alot of things
and bring them upto date as there has been alot learned since SG first
released items to the stex and plex and lex...

As you know LEX is dedicated to having only the best stuff so we dont get hurt by
something way outta wack... Ahh and that is where Barby comes in she is doing her
best to update it all, please be patient as this is a work in progress... I hope to see
new barby stuff but she is busy making sure old is better before new....

Quote from: patfirefghtr on September 01, 2007, 11:49:45 AM
In the famous words of Filasimo "it will be ready when they are ready"
Tracker Barby is a very busy bee and she is trying to change alot of things
and bring them upto date as there has been alot learned since SG first
released items to the stex and plex and lex...

As you know LEX is dedicated to having only the best stuff so we dont get hurt by
something way outta wack... Ahh and that is where Barby comes in she is doing her
best to update it all, please be patient as this is a work in progress... I hope to see
new barby stuff but she is busy making sure old is better before new....

I fully understand the quality-first philosophy. I just can't wait for all these plops, especially that Prof Center one. Makes me wonder if I'll be able to be the first with the Prof Center plop lot...LEX Goddess, I hereby bow down to you. (I know how busy you are, keeping watch over a constantly growing "kingdom".)

Hmmm ... so much requests ... so little time ;) ... take a break Tracker ... ride the off-topic train with me.

Cute one, Colyn. I like the bird. Good thing I JUST finished the 2 to 3-hour process of redoing all of the SG stuff.  ;D

hehe that was amusing and cute lil birdy is that an oriole?  :D

A wonderful quote from one of my favourite authors, Terry Pratchett, when asked when a book was due to be out:

Quote
Well, they asked me in February, and I said it was coming out in November.
When they asked in March, I said it was coming out in November. In April I
pointed out that November, in fact, was going to be when the next book came
out. In May, when asked on many occasions about when Maskerade was coming
out, I said November. In November, it will be published. The same November
all the way through, too.
        -- So Terry, when is 'Maskerade' coming out, then?

I am correct in thinking that goober has retired from the scene forever now (The retirement home being his last BAT  :))?

Not strictly true as I have a couple waiting to be uploaded. We are trying to entice him back or at least release some of his private stash.

Quote from: BarbyW on September 01, 2007, 03:38:35 PM
Not strictly true as I have a couple waiting to be uploaded. We are trying to entice him back or at least release some of his private stash.

Considering the fast speed he worked at I am guessing that his private stash is enourmous!

Quote from: BarbyW on September 01, 2007, 03:16:24 PM
A wonderful quote from one of my favourite authors, Terry Pratchett, when asked when a book was due to be out:

Whole new love for Barby for being a Terry Pratchett fan :thumbsup:

Having just downloaded and installed the goober sets from the LEX, I must say barby, once again, you are a ledgend.  Where this community would be without you I hate to think.  &apls

Kindly remember those words when France trounce the All Blacks $%Grinno$%

Quote from: BarbyW on September 02, 2007, 06:47:14 AM
Kindly remember those words when France trounce the All Blacks $%Grinno$%

:D :D :D

hmm i think i lost something somewhere somehow lol but either way it sounded good for your reply barby to what diggis said and i do agree where would we be with out you!!!

Try this Pat: http://www.allblacks.com/

At least you'll know what it's all about! :D

By the way, are these revamps ONLY for Goober commercials?

I know that he made quite a few (good) residentials as well.

ahhhhhh ty Rj leave it to you to point me the right way as always i didnt know that was the name of the team lol sad me very sad lol

tracker yes residentals have allready been done or at least some of them...

Residentials are all done and on the LEX. Industrials will be next. Then Farms then the plops as they are taking a long time to do.

Quote from: BarbyW on September 02, 2007, 11:41:25 AM
Residentials are all done and on the LEX. Industrials will be next. Then Farms then the plops as they are taking a long time to do.

How many farms and industrials does SG have, anyway? It seems very low, especially in comparison to his commercial army of buildings.

Are the new packs CAMpatible? (the residentials)

Yes they are CAMpatible, that is the point of the excercise.

Goober had a good collection of farms, and some industrials too, but not nearly as many as the commercials no.

Pat:  We kiwis are fiercly proud of our All Blacks, and if you get the chance to watch a game you should.  At their best they are nigh on unstoppable, and hopefully we will see that to the fullest extent in October.

LoL Diggis i havent seen any coverage here in the states go fig my luck

are the latest SG's commercial lots just revamps or are there any new bats in the packages ?

Nope no new stuff ATM all reworked items and of course if you didnt have it now you do sorta thing lol

Quote from: patfirefghtr on September 02, 2007, 07:39:58 PM
Nope no new stuff ATM all reworked items and of course if you didnt have it now you do sorta thing lol

Yep. I never intended for there to be a Hooters across from Camelot International Airport. But it happened yesterday after I reworked the SG department. Camelot has more history than largest city ever, you know. First Hooters ever in SimNation.

Quote from: XiahouDun on September 01, 2007, 04:02:16 PM
Whole new love for Barby for being a Terry Pratchett fan :thumbsup:

I saw books in a bookstore last night. Lo and behold, I found Terry Pratchett and immediately thought of this thread.

Quote from: Tracker on September 03, 2007, 10:11:49 AM
I saw books in a bookstore last night.

Sounds about the right place for them.. :thumbsup:

And Pratchett...All I can say is "Buggrit, millennium hand and shrimp".  If you've not read Pratchett, you're missing out on gems like this:

"The Assassin moved quietly from roof to roof until he was well away from the excitement around the Watch House. His movements could be called cat-like, except that he did not stop to spray urine up against things."

No, the best bits are the footnotes.  I wish I had my books here, but they are packed away in a box at home  ()sad()

What, like:

Dolphins: never trust a species who smile all the time...They're up to something

Some of Pratchett's own quotes as opposed to from his books are worthy of comment too:

QuoteAs far as I'm aware I'm not specifically banned anywhere in the USA, and
am rather depressed about it.  Surely some of you guys can do
*something?*

QuoteI'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when
there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.

QuoteIt gets worse.  I have, before now, waited for a pen to perform a macro.

And my favourite:

QuoteThat seems to point up a significant difference between Europeans and
Americans. A European says: "I can't understand this, what's wrong with
me?" An American says: "I can't understand this, what's wrong with him?"

Barby, I PMed you asking a couple of questions. If you would look at it and respond?

I have looked and you will still have to wait patiently. I made too many errors with queries etc in the packs released so am not posting any more until I am happy they all work correctly with all the queries.

I find the adage, "better right than fast," to be true with almost everything in life... ;)

Quote from: snorrelli on September 04, 2007, 10:36:14 AM
I find the adage, "better right than fast," to be true with almost everything in life... ;)

And the one that starts "All good things...." 

Quote from: callagrafx on September 04, 2007, 10:59:59 AM
And the one that starts "All good things...." 

cost a lot? :D

Quote from: TheTeaCat on September 04, 2007, 11:06:33 AM
cost a lot? :D

Spoken like an Irishman  :P

 :D :D  LoL Derry and Lee you 2 are a riot.....

Tracker remember one thing for me please "patience is a virtue well earned"
"Waiting for one Professional Center plop"  is a tad bit overkill you think?
Barby is only one WOMAN workforce not WOMEN workforce... She is doing a
great justice for this communtiy by condesing all of SG greatest lots to one or
two files needed and not 50,60 or 100 items sitting in the plugins folder... 

Im certain you understand the more you push an issue the longer it will be put on
the back burner, because it then takes away Barby's time to address you again
with probley the same response....  So anyways back off topic here i hope you and
everyone else has been having a sunny day!!!!!!

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Oh great.

Does this mean I have to redownload the queries? I can wait if it's a much bigger issue.

Well, I'm still waiting. I can be patient, I can be impatient.

Quote from: Tracker on September 04, 2007, 06:41:21 PMWell, I'm still waiting. I can be patient, I can be impatient.

I really don't think it's about you being able to be patient, I don't think you have much of a choice. ;) As Pat said, patience is a virtue, and I also agree with him on the line in your profile saying "Waiting for one Professional Center plop." It would be best if you removed it, I believe that those who need to know about your request, do know about it, and are working on it to the best of their abilities and time available.

Quote from: M4346 on September 05, 2007, 12:38:11 AM
I really don't think it's about you being able to be patient, I don't think you have much of a choice. ;) As Pat said, patience is a virtue, and I also agree with him on the line in your profile saying "Waiting for one Professional Center plop." It would be best if you removed it, I believe that those who need to know about your request, do know about it, and are working on it to the best of their abilities and time available.

Could you not make a plop version of the centre yourself?  Is it in the growables?

I think it might be difficult for him to do so, even if it is in the Growables (I'm not sure, I haven't checked). The LOTs are all packed into one DAT file and I think the difficulty might come in with extracting the DAT and then turning it into a ploppable. I don't know if Tracker knows how to.

I am getting there but keep getting stopped with problems from other things.  :'(

I wasn't saying for you to do it goddess.  I was suggesting Tracker do it himself.

It is done, Diggis, but in the queue for checking and packaging. Still need to do Readme for the ploppables too.

Barby, you might like the change I made in the personal text...

So all that stands between me and the plop is packaging and readmes. Nice. At this rate, I think it'll be done by the weekend, which means I can play Camelot with this thing. (And go through the process of more buildings jumping stages; I have that much Goober stuff and plops.)

One quick question: Was the growable Professional Center in one of the Office or Commercial Service packs?

It was included in this pack: SG Commercials Models Offices Medium simgoober (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1114) and SG Commercials Lots Offices Medium simgoober (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1115). Or at least I think / believe it was. I checked it out this afternoon in the Reader and I think I remember it being in there. :)

Quote from: M4346 on September 05, 2007, 05:20:29 PM
It was included in this pack: SG Commercials Models Offices Medium simgoober (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1114) and SG Commercials Lots Offices Medium simgoober (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1115). Or at least I think / believe it was. I checked it out this afternoon in the Reader and I think I remember it being in there. :)

Yeah, I deleted a few files. Will zone 4x4 in Camelot and see what comes of it.

Barby, how are the processes going? Last I heard, it was packaging, processing, and readmes.

Tracker, I think every time you keep asking for it, she'll be putting it down to the bottom of the queue again. :P

Got it in one, RJ ;D

Quote from: BarbyW on September 06, 2007, 04:45:41 PM
Got it in one, RJ ;D

Got it in one? Does that mean they're ready?

I'd doubt it. let's put it another way eh. The more you ask - the longer it will take.

There are lots of things that our Goddess has to do and unfortunately her time is limited  ( a bit like everybodies really) I understand its probably very important to you but please be patient my friend. it will arrive once barby can devote the time to make sure it is correct.

In the meantime have this nice cuppa to help ease your frustration
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:satisfied:
TTC

Quote from: TheTeaCat on September 06, 2007, 05:21:12 PM
I'd doubt it. let's put it another way eh. The more you ask - the longer it will take.

There are lots of things that our Goddess has to do and unfortunately her time is limited  ( a bit like everybodies really) I understand its probably very important to you but please be patient my friend. it will arrive once barby can devote the time to make sure it is correct.

In the meantime have this nice cuppa to help ease your frustration
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:satisfied:
TTC

I understand. I'm satisfied, but I'm anxious. My SG plops will be one of the last things to get overhauled big. It will be nice to see the 50+ commercial plops from SG in Camelot go CAM and to see my long-awaited plop.

Quote50+ commercial plops from SG

And that is the root of the problem. Look at the number that have to be done, checked and double checked. You can be as anxious as you like but it won't hurry them.

All this anxiousness over game assets...you'll end up with an ulcer.

Tracker, please, please, please stop double posting and pestering.  We are not here to service you, as you are but one small voice (although getting annoyingly louder) in a large community.

And a community that on the whole doesn't actually care about plops.  :thumbsup:

Quote from: callagrafx on September 07, 2007, 12:48:36 AM
All this anxiousness over game assets...you'll end up with an ulcer.

Tracker, please, please, please stop double posting and pestering.  We are not here to service you, as you are but one small voice (although getting annoyingly louder) in a large community.

OK. My main forum that I post on is not very mature...ah well.

Quote from: Tracker on September 07, 2007, 04:45:05 PM
OK. My main forum that I post on is not very mature...ah well.

Well, this one is...Please review the rules (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?board=60.0)

after curiosity and peeping my head in this thread it seems like an episode of the Simpsons when they go on vacation and Bart and Lisa are like: "Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?" as for the lovely Goddess take your time make him wait longer. Release it when you know everything is A-OK!  :thumbsup:

I have asked for this thread to be locked...and no one listens.  %confuso

As requested this topic is now locked.