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Teaser/Realestate Chart

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This is my effert of a totaly interactive journal where the story is controled by you. You can own houses and buissneses choose you're relationships and have fun  at all of Dan's or the towns facilities such as Dan's pool, Pit Theater, Forester Sports bar and billiards, Club Cosway, The library, the park, Dan's lounge and other facilities and etc. You can also decide on community events if you're in the community council and create laws or you can be a visitor camping or staying in Dan's place.

Realestate: You pick a lot and a wealth and I'll zone it or ask me to design you a custom house like mine ...
For buissneses just pic a lot and a name and I'll either plop or grow you're shop. If only a brand tell me the name and if a farm tell me and I'll grow you one.

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My custom house.

Sujestions, comments and constructive criticizms are welcome.

This is a nice concept.  [takes advantage  ;D]  I think I'll go first.

I'd like to be a city planner working for whatever the government is going to be.  I prefer to live in a small house or apartment close to the city center.  I don't have a preference of an exact building to use and it doesn't matter if it's Maxis or custom.

Hum...this looks interesting...i would like a 2x2 home,principally if its a Mattb325's home.

I want to be some rich guy!!

No, I really want to be some british guy( I am British) who moves in with 2 dollars worth in whatever you're currency is!(randomly thought of that)
and a car!

P.S: I'll sleep in my car and have a job as a binman!

Also, shall we PM you about what we want the character to do, so it is secret?

Ryan :thumbsup:

Yeah Daniel, fantastic pic!!! Very nice start in your MD!!!   :thumbsup:

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Sumwonuno: Yep First come first serve!  ;D I PMd yoi about you're character.

Luke09: Thanx. I PMd you too.

carkid1998: ha ha ha  :P . Ok I PMd you as well.

Tomas Neto: Thank you! Are you sure you don't want a character or do you just want to be a random tourist?

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Transformers 2 is on at the theater fo 3.50 per ticket! Who wants to go with me?  :D

Thank you, but umm I didn't get a private message.

what do you mean I sent you one!?  ???

There I sent you a PM ... again  :)

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Sumwonyuno: Ok I resent it to you.  :-[

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new  town overview.

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night time pic.

NEW RESIDENTS!

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townhome: Sum ,Mattb house: Luc, Camp: George

Lucas Cruz

Age: 20
Wealth: $$$
Job: town doctor

Sum Won Yuno

Age: 31
Wealth:$$
Job: City Planner

George Bruc

Age: 20
Wealth: $
Job: Garbage Man



Info:
He has moved here seaking a more peacful lifestyle than he did in Brazil in the big cities. He is single right now but is feeling lonely with only Marshall and Sum as his friends that support him. He has fun with Marshall and Sum at the Sports Bar, At Dan's place and x country skiing although Sum alway's brings his rifel with him wich scares him sometimes but Sum alway's makes Lucases fear into jokes wich somtimes makes Lucas angry .. but only somtimes. While Marshall Owns The Float Plane company and although he doesn't have 20 20 vision he can still fly amazingly well although he has a bad habbit of getting drunk and Lucas has to carry him home alone because Sum is too buissy flirting with girls. Marshall loves the wilderness and alway's loves hiking. George Bruc is yet to make friends but usualy keeps to himself and his adopted son joe a 7 year old boy and they both like hanging out in dangerouse places and are mischeviose somtimes as explained by farmer ben who sees them regularily playing cards in the middle of his farmfield.

This is a good idea.
I want a house close to that small lake, as long as it's a single family home. As for my job, I want to work at Wal-Mart Ed's Diner (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/details.cfm?id=21840), as an $$ sim. If you can't fit it in, I'm fine with the movie theater.

As for grammar, spelling and clarity in the writing, that can be improved.  That aside...

;) the story's funny to me because it's not what I'm like in RL  $%Grinno$%.  It gave me a good laugh by reading how I interact with all the other people.  Now, now, it's only a .50 caliber... and besides, you'd never know when a landfill or cemetary is gonna get built (gotta get those seagulls and zombies!)

HeHe! Hmmm.. Now to go and earn more money! Devising a plan for my character.

Are there any big cities nearby? (for the shopping)

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emgmod: Ok I'll get you that and as for the dinner I'll try thats all I can say.

Sumwonyuno: It was 11:34 when I finished that and my dad was getting angry because I wasn't coming up stairs fast enough so I was rushed. As for RL I don't know you in RL and this is a character  :P . Well I actualy am a comediun but not a very good speller even though english is my first language. seaguls yes , zombies ... I'd rather not think about it.

carkid1998: No this is an only 1 tile CJ but I can make one if you want. How about Lodder dale. yah

Ha ha, this sounds like fun! I'll participate! ;)

I'd like to move in as a $$ resident, preferably on a 1x2 C.P. lot. I'd like to own Jason's Train Shop, a small $$ business in downtown, maybe using one of the buildings from the "Small Town Pack"?

I'm excited to see how this develops!

Hi Daniel, I like very much of  this history, and this update is fantastic!

Quote from: danielcote on August 15, 2009, 10:13:45 AM
Tomas Neto: Thank you! Are you sure you don't want a character or do you just want to be a random tourist?

Hummm, let me see!!! I prefer be a random tourist!!!  ;D

Wow...what an idea! Combining both A mayor diary and a small town built by collaborrating, real life people! Awesome concept!  :thumbsup:
Being a total newbie, maybe I should take time to settle, but this looks like an awseome opprotunity to establish myself an dget to know a bit of the community!
I 'll move in as $$$. A small, green, one sim home, but nice and contemporary. Lots of glass. And, if possible, with two mini-wind turbines and solar panels! If I can power myself, awesome! If not, it'll be good eye candy. If I can choose, I'd like the lot next to the small pond. I'd like to work as a Mass Transit advisor, And also work at Jasons!

I sound like Meadows and Herds (or Heards, whichever) crossed with a Hyperactive 11-year-old. That being said, I am the latter.

Ooh! Ilike the concept of this Dan and I think I will request a house by Mattb325 (as soon as I find one I like ;)). Will definately be watching this...

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Garaway: Ok I should have you're character and his stuff ready soon.

Tomas Neto: Ok but would you like to stay at Dan's place lodge or in the camp site?  :)

Dan7: Ok It sound complex but I'll make it work ... somehow. I'll send you an info sheet later tonight with questions about you're character.

Driftmaster07: Glad you like it. I have the Mattb props if you want me to lot one custom made house for you.  ()stsfd()

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Dan's Place tour #1

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info: Dan's place was the first structure in the town in 1923 and has been modernized durring the 50's, 80's and recently in 2006. It has a large property wich consists of a campsite, tennis courts, a public pool, a lake, an exclusive pool for guests and customers only, hiking trails and afew park nooks like gazebos etc. Dan's is one of the most popular places in the town with many bars, lounges, billiards, bars, and even a spa and tiny casino.

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Golf course on the other side of the lake.

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Goat horn lounge and Bar.

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lake view porch.

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Every night a new special show is played. 8:00-8:30 kids shows, 8:30-9:30 Adventure and Drama stories, 9:30-10:00 Documenteries.

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Dan's Campground.

Nice lodge! I lke it in that area right there. Also I changed my mind about the house. How about this (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=793) one? You can just plop it but if looks great for the whole rural theme here!

It's really amazing that you got RL pictures that so closley resemble the place!  ;D
Let me ask" is the lake the Pond with the waterfall or the off-the-map area?

Nice im already in the city...and i wanna see transformers 2  :)

Okay, I sent you my character.
If we ever take a road trip off map to a city, try to ask permission from someone else's MD. It makes it easier.

You can always use my region! ;D

Interesting concept. I'll join. How about a guy named William Templeton who is a millionaire, but prefers to live in a smaller home (for now). He'll work at a tall tower. (NDEX) He'll live as R$$ in The Windmire on the STEX

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Driftmaster07(2): I could but I'm looking for a more mountainouse northamerican region. ok when I get a full region you will have you're house built but for now you shall stay in the imperial suite in Dan's Place.

Dan7: No Well the part where you're looking at Dan's place then yes you're off the map, but the part where you're on the padio no you're just behind Dan's place.

emgmod: ok I'll try to make that work.

citycapitalizer: ok I'll try to have you're character in in the next few updates.

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NEW RESIDENCE

Alex Kyle Plueto

Age:24

Wealth: $$

Job: Owner of the Blue Rose Gas station

David Jay Garaway

Age: 24

Wealth: $$

Job: Owner of Jasons train shop.


Daniel Jasper Jenken

Age:20

Wealth:$$$

Job: Assistant manager at jasons train shop.

Info: Daniel even though David is the owner of the train shop Daniel always seems to find his money in the stock marcket. Yes hes almost always right when biding on the market. He'd make a pretty good economist if he had the daploma. Daniel and David have always been good friends since they met. They are both very kind and helpful but very easily offended so I wouldn't tell those yo mama jokes to them  :P . They work together, chat together and play together. They've always had eachother to lean on even at the toughest times. They like talking over cofey at the clay cafe rather than the sports bar and love the tranquility of nature. Alex has met many people and is starting to become friends with Marshall, David and Daniel but is not they're best friend yet. Alex still has some things to learn about the town and its wildernes being from a big city he doesn't know how to handle bears and one night came too close to one and almost got attacked. But hey he's learning fast.

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Daniels house.

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Davids house.

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Alex is staying at Dan's Place until his house is completed. When it is it will be the biggest in the whole town.


FROM VILLAGE TO 3 STAR TOURIST TOWN

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As you can see the town has gotten bigger and nicer. It now is officialy a resort town and to handle the vast growth a town hall had to be built to manage the cities new greater income.

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The town has even greater nightlife now.

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The Blue rose gas station being the only one in town is now the most popular and is getting hords of buissnes bringing the town even more money in taxes.

City Council:

please restate you're position now that we have a town hall that will be shown next update.

Looking Good!The town's growing fast. I want my character to do a couple of things so I'll PM you!
My MD has some moutains!

Ryan :thumbsup:

Looks good! Can't wait for the new update!

Nice,i really liked the gas station  ;D

I love my house. ;)

Ahh, I fully understand, [temporarily hides rifle] I didn't mean to put you down or anything.

[takes on gun-toting city planner character] From my humble experience, the City Council should start planning for even more tourists and new residents that will come in the near future.

Awseome! Although that house with the pool looks more like what I expected my house to look like. I would love to be Transport dude on the City Council. Every tourist town need a nice Light rail system!

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carkid1998: Ok sounds good just ring me up when you're ready.

Driftmaster07: Well its here  $%Grinno$%

Luke09: Thanx it was driftmasters idea.

Albus of Garway: Good I'm glad to hear it turned out so well.

sumwonyuno: We are planning for tourists and expansion.

Dan7: That euro styled house with the garage is you're house and as for rail I'll need to develop and connect to my region first.

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new characters will be introduced next update.

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POLL RESULTS
I have decided on the poll. It will be a place called Blue river county and I have terraformed 4 new tiles.

NEW HIGHWAY, FIRST HIGHWAY

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It will make travel to and from this aria faster and more efficiant.

NEW TOWN HALL BUILDING FINISHED

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The building on the corner is the new town offices and makes much it easier to manage the city, its funds and its many programs than to do it all in the mayors house.

NEW SCHOOL PROPOSED

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NEW 4 TILES PLANS REVIELED

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Looks good! :thumbsup: Can't wait!

Looks good so far. I spy a big city across the river.
By the way, City Council needs to do something about the steep roads.

Very nice! I was thinking, maybe a rail network would help this growing region though. Enlighten me: can Railroads help move crops? And also, what does Jason's Trains look like?

I agree with Dan7, a rail line would be a wonderful addition to the region (Plus it might get more people to come to Jason's Train Shop!).

By the way, I vote yes for the new school! Education always comes first! :)

-Jason

You should have a great deal of success with this interactive journal Daniel. What better way to encourage participation. I'll be cheering you on all the way!  :thumbsup:

Geoff

REPLIES

Driftmaster07: Great.

emgmod: Yes but its actualy a large town and were trying to fix the roads.

Dan7: Well I took you're thoughts into consideration and jasons trains is a model and hobbey store he sells model trains aircraft etc.

Albus of Garaway: Ok I took the railway into consideration and the school has been built.

Calibanx: Thanks I really apreciate it.

TEASERS

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Orleans city.

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Our little teaser.


MESSAGE

I'm going to be camping in Banff this weekend from this friday to sunday just to let you know.  :thumbsup:

Very nice. the roads are a bit bumpy, but otherwise its really beutiful

Looks very cool! Have fun camping!

I really wasn't expecting otherwise:  if the town wanted to expand, development would have to take over farms and cut down the forests.   &cry2

As for Orleans City, I would suggest putting green belts (trees and parks) along the highway and the shoreline.

Hi Daniel, you made a lot of updatings for these days, and all are beautiful, really fantastic!
Nice effect of photoshop in the last update, my friend!!   :thumbsup:

Enjoy camping! The new teasers look great. :)

-Jason

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Blue moose: Yah I'm working on that thanks.

Driftmaster07: Don't worry I did.

Sumwonyuno: Yep thats what I'm doing and don't River Deer Valley is like Banf or Jasper it has limited expansion.  ;)

Tomas Neto: Thanks I'm good at pfotoshop.

Albus of Garway: I did and I hiked 14 km up mountains by lake loise. don't know if I spelled that right. Thanx

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A new Town has been created in the same tile as River Deer Valley but farming is its top buissnes not so much tourism.


MESSAGE

Sorry for the lack of updates but my progress has been sliced in half because my game keeps on quiting every 5 minuits. If you have any solutions to this problem than please tell me because it really ticks me off. I litterly end up cussing at the computer till my face is red its really anoying.

Scenic route:

Slower and too expencive for a regular commute but Great for tourists and relaxing wekends and it will probably bring in more tourists.

Commuter:

Much more frequent, dependable and delivers a much fasterfaster service for regular comutes between cities and will bring more people from each city wich is good for buissnes.

Freight:

Carries cargo and live stock and has a far larger capacity then trucks do.

Very nice work, Daniel!!! Great update!!!  :thumbsup:
About the problem that you're having with the game, I don't have answer! I'll ask some friends if they know how to solve!

Uh... Try running cleanitol, or slowing down in your work. This happens to me sometimes but  just let the computer sit there for a little while. Somtimes that works... Great update overall!!!!! :thumbsup:

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Tomas Neto: Ok thanks for you're help.

Driftmaster: Don't you mean cleanalot?

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NEW CHARACTER

Name: Ed Pitt

Wealth: $$

Age: 27

Job: Owner of the pit theater.

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Ed Pitts house.

UPDATE

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The New Alexandria Hospital has been finished and has new equiptment and technology that the clinic did not have so it is a plus in extending our citizens life time.

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Current overview. As you can see the towns skyline is getting taller.

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Night time.

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Conections Spuare is a new touristical part of town with pubs, resteraunts, gift shops, bakeries, clothing store and banks it is arguably the best place to shop.

What happened to my character????  &mmm ()what() ()what() ()what() ()what() ()what() ()what() ()what() ()what() ()what()

Nice updates! And here is my opinion on the rail poll (which should matter more than anyone else's 'cause I'm the Transport Advisor. JK! ;D)

I don't think building all of them is really an option, as it would cause to much clutter and would not be financially sound..This is a Tourists Paradise, is it not? The scenic route is a must. As for Freight vs. Commuter, Dans place did start as a farming region, yes. But it is now growing at no small rate. People are going to need to be able to move around, and tourists are going to need fast ways to get arounf the region. I says go passenger, and if freight needs become greater, add highways. Bit less expensive. And also, I'm Working on a flag design for Dan's Place. I'll PM it to you if you want to see it!

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City capitalizer: oh sorry city capitalizer I was only looking off my PM list I never thought to look for character info on these pages man I feel so bad  ()sad(). Sorry I'll have you're house and character next update is that ok with you  &mmm

Dan7: Great you can send me the flag! And as for the rail you're opinion counts for 45% of poll but all possabilities are taken into consideration.

Train Types:

Commuter-

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is fast consistant and reliable but still comftorable.

Scenic-

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Is slower But more comftorable and elaborate with facilities such as a dining car and a cafe and bar + a dome and park car. You can see scenery much better but there is less stops it will stop in 2 out of every 4-5 towns.

Freight-

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Is fairly fast and reliable and takes more freight than trucks but the current engines use diesel and we are currently looking into electric freight engines for quicker and cleaner services.

But What should we call this rail company it has to have a name.

Yay, I'm in here now. I'll think of a name for the rail tomorrow.

Depends. Is the rail going to be government or privatley owned. Government owned, I'd call it the River Deer-Orleans Railroad. If it's privatley owned, then it depends on what the owner calls it. And I would like to own it, if possible.

Yes. Cleanitol or Cleanalot I guess. 'm not sure... The one that checks for missing or conflicting dependancies.

Woowww, very nice this pics!!!

Hi Daniel, I talked with some friends about your problem with the game, but I got no answer that could help you. I'm sorry my friend.  &mmm

Nice...i think i will go to the touristical plaza of the city  ;)

I would like a c.p. mansion ($$$) on a rural street surrounding by trees, preferably c.p.'s as well. Thanks! No specific house.

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emgmod: Ok I have an idea too.

Dan7: You can own the scenic route company but the freight and commuter is government property.  ;)

Driftmaster07: Ok I instaled it but still need to see how it works.

Tomas Neto: Oh thats ok.

Luke09: Ok what will you do there?

Ecoba: Ok I sent you a PM.

TEASER

WELCOME TO ORLEANS CITY
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MESSAGE
Citycapitilizer and emgmod's characters will be introduced next update.

Daniel, Orleans City is fantastic!!! Awesome city my friend!!! And great work with the pothoshop!!!  &apls &apls

You run it directly from the installer.

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  :party: ITS MY BIRTHDAY !!!!!!!!!!  :party:

Citycapitalizer: I have you're house but I'll send you the info I need to have you're character ok?

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Special Orlens City Tour

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As you can see the suburbs are still in development.

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As you can see this city has lots of night life.

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Here is the AFDES Block which consists of two buildings The Ikon Building and the Soveirgnty building. The Ikon Building is the Triangular shaped building with the built in parkade.

The soveirgnty building is the offices across from the courthouse.

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Across from the soveirgnty building is the Courthouse. It was built in 1908 and was the largest structure in the city at the time.

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The GTP Entertainment building is the brightest building downtown. GTP owns the Fox, Easy listening and ww radio stations, channel 5 Home Television (wich is Gardening, cooking, design etc), Channel 11 kids TV, Chanel 28 Much more Movies, Channel 24 Groove TV (Wich plays popular Muisic) and 61 Eddie TV ( Old fashioned movies) + They also own the Orleans Buletin and the Regional Press. To the left of the GTP Building is the GLR Tracks and Garment Walk wich streches all through the main district.

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Orleans Grand Central.  It has a heavy traffic flow of trains going through the region and into The rest of BC + Buses, Taxis, Cars and the GLR is planned to come down here.

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Charelston is an expensive neighborhood with the mayors house, A beach front view,belts of trees and downtown right behind it.

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The mayors house is smaller than expected but has a pool and its own lake so it actualy has a big property.

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Beacon beach is the biggest beach in the region with food stands and a clean fun beach and atmosphere.

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The Government center houses offices for the whole region and has the place of Justice, The national archives, foreign conections, Customs, assembly and Govt offices.

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Titon Square holds many Great galleries, studios, Resteraunts, Cafes, custom store and services. It is basicly the artistic district.

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AMP Plaza holda the WW1 Memorial, AMP Offices, other rental offices and resteraunts cafes and a mall at the bottem 2 floors.

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WAORC Plaza is home to the Grandian Company World Alliance oil refinery company and owns 41% of all gas stations in canada and 16% in the world. It provides 415 office jobs for the region and is key in our economy.

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Calder view stadium is the biggest stadium in the region with the Commonwealth games taking place here in 2015.

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Babminton and Tennis are gaining popularith especialy with the young generation so this stadium was built in 2005 to house the new Young Peoples Genral Tournament Championchips and the Profetional and amature Babminton and Tennis league.

Amature Pay:
participant-200.00
3rd-800.00
2nd-1,000.00
1st-1,150.00

Profetional Pay:

Participant- 500.00
3rd-1,500.00
2nd-2,000.00
1st-3,000.00

These tournaments happen every 2 weeks.

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The Orleans Regional Technology instatute. Useful technology and medacines are made in this fine facility.

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The WW@ War Memorial is a great monument and is one thing to visit in this city.

Happy birthday!  &apls

Nice, Orleans City is much more vertical (taller buildings) than I was expecting.  Though, I suggest figuring out how to better connect the suburbs and the Downtown area.

Happy B-Day danielcote! Looks pretty good!

Happy birthday! Great update!

-Jason

wow!, this MD is a great idea!

btw: can I have a small cabin, waaaaay up in the wilderness. I was thinking THIS CABIN
linkie> http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=77 (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=77)

and if so, can i be the owner of a zoo?

linkie> http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=414 (http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=414)

P.S.

       Where did you get those palm trees?!?

Hi Daniel!!! Happy birthday!!!!   :thumbsup:

Great update my friend!!! Very nice!!!  &apls &apls 

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Sumwonyuno:Yeah well I'm trying to expand the suburbs and make good conections on top of all the game glitches so please be patient.

Driftmaster07: Thanx bundlez.

Albus of Garaway: Thank you.

marsh: Look up Palm trees on Stex and you should find it.

Tomas Neto: Thank you I appreciate it!

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Modified.

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Origeonal.

You choose.

Poll Results:

Yes: 6 Citizens

No: 1 Citizen

Maybe: No one

Not Yet: 2 Citizens

looks like I'll be doing real estate for next update!

Nice flag, Daniel!!! I like very much!!!

None of the above. Maybe you could eliminate the arrow? Otherwise a super great job!

Well, Thanks so much for all the credit. I dont jst pick random colrs and lines and put them together in Paint, you know. Vexillography is my passion. Is it to much for you to just say, "Oh yeah, Dan7 made this!"

And I'm aware the original is no good, after putting some thought into it. I would like to offer a restylized version:

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I like it but maybe you should make it no so wide? Otherwise great job.

yes, it's kind of a weird format, but lokks good though

Nice updates! Sorry about my absence, I was on holiday :P

Dan7, your flag is great, but a bit wide!

PS: Could you do that update with my character, I don't mind about sharing a house :thumbsup:

Ryan ;)

Ok you'll share the townhouse.

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Tomas Neto: Thanks but not my best work.

Driftmaster07: Yeah I guess it does look alittle silly with the union jack.

Dan7: That looks  great I'll add the Brittish flag to that.

Leodido: Ok but its Dan7's flag actualy, he made it I just commisioned him to do it.

Souichaser: Thanx.

carkid1998: Thats ok I was for a while too and yes I'll put you in next update.

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TEASER

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carkid1998: Thats ok I was for awhile there too and yes I'll put you in this upcoming update.

Nice Teaser! Looking forward to the update!

P.S: You replied to me twice ;)!

Ryan

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Carkid1998: Thanx and yah I know.  :P

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ORLEANS CONDO REAL ESTATE

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Beacon View Condos.

$$
2 full bath
3 bedroom
full kitchen
Dinning room
in Downtown
Fantastic Beach view

Cost: $ 180,000.00
Units for sale: 3

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Uptown Suits

$$$
2 and a half bath
2 bedroom
full kitchen
study
gas fireplace
Dining room
Large balcony
in downtown
Fantastic beach view

Cost: $230,000.00
Units For Sale: 4

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Sterling Block appartments

$$
1 and a half bath.
1-2 bedroom
half kitchen
bar table
dinet
quiet neighborhood
walking disstance to the Orleans Library
walking disstance to downtown

Cost: 129,000.00
Units for sale: 2

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Jeanue and Florice appartments

$$
Heated underground parking
2 bedroom
1 and a half bath
full kitchen
dining room
Fireplace
city pool right accross the way
balcony - no balcony
Stores below

Cost: 132,000.00
Units for sale: 3

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Coperton condos

$$$ - $$
floor to ceiling windows
bar table
rec aria
Fire place
3 bedroom
2 full bath
full kitchen
full dinning room
city pool in walking distance
rooftop paradise with jacuzy.

Cost: 180,000.00 - 234,000,00
Units for sale: 3

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Rutherford Condo Complex

$$
2 bedroom
1 bath
full kitchen
dinet
bar table
near United Baptist Church of Orleans
in downtown
heated underground parking

Cost: 121,000.00
Units for sale: 1

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Carlton Apartments

$
2 bedroom
1 bath
half kitchen
dinet
study
quiet neighborhood
across from tennis/ babminton courts

Cost: 86,000.00
Units for sale: 2

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George Bruc has inherited a small car tunning company in Orleans and 500,000.00 dollars cash, enough to buy a decent home and still have enough left over for a good car (not that he doesn't have one already), fix his current one, get some good clothes and R and R products but still have enough left over to spend on entertainment and others.

I like the pics! Your MD is very interactive!

Sum Won Yuno is interested in moving to Orleans City!  But there doesn't seem there is single bedroom apartment available with a balcony + beach view.  :P  Sterlings seems to be a good compromise.

I'm not sure if I can afford most of them. If I can, I would go to Beacon View.
By the way, I'm trying to get District 9 for Pit Theater.

Ok I'll send you a copy. Just don't tell anyone I gave it too you wink wink nudge nudge  ;)

Replies next Update  ;)



Teaser
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If the teaser is so beautiful, then the update will be phenomenal!!! Daniel, my friend, fantastic work!!!  &apls &apls

I approve simply because of that pool. You just have to fix the floating traffic light on the bottom right side.

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DriftMaster07: Thanks.  :)

Sumoneyuno: Ok I'll put that down for next update.  ;)

emgmod(2): Ok I'll put that for next update. I'm trying but its hard.

Tomas Neto: Thanks for the great compliment!!!  ()stsfd()

PERSONAL

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Royal Canadian air cadets has started again!!!  $%Grinno$%

Wrist
Propeller badge: Basic summer course.
swirly 2 mark: Silver athletics.

Shoulder
Rank: LAC
Squadron: 533
Flight: Band

I'm so happy! I hape you liked this personal update.  ()stsfd()

Is that a picture of you?

I think so. Is it?

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Sumwonyuno: Yes it is.

Driftmaster: Yep you're right.

TEASER TIME!!!

Sorry no update yet. All I have to say is that I have the new HSR project mod now so There's going to be highspeed rail now too!

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A new City.

Cool! And the water? ???

The new HSR project mod?!!!? Yeah, really very cool!!! And nice image of  New Grandia, Daniel!!!

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Tomas Neto:Yep sadly for you it's not done yet so just 1 more teaser until update time!  $%Grinno$%

Driftmaster: Oh the long rainbow string in the water is just awsome photo editing.  ()stsfd()

TEASER

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Downtown Blue Bay is a very Buissy place with lots of tourism destinations and the best beaches.

Looks very cool!

Nice beaches, Daniel!!! Very nice teaser!!!  :thumbsup:

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Tomas Neto: Thanks I love making beaches it's very fun + it looks good too.

Driftmaster07: Thanx

I put up a poll mainly because I think as well as my self everybody is loosing intrest so I have afew ideas for a new MD but need to know what you want.

Your mayor diary was a good attempt at putting the reader into the story, but I guess it was hard to keep track of everyone and maintain the interactions among everyone.

This idea just came to me right now:

U-Build-It

1. Clear your plugins folder of everything except for NAM, CAM, RTMT, and essential NAM stations (HSR, etc).
2. Only download plugins that other people suggest. (Don't say everything Simgoober or similar requests. Packs like RMIP are fine.)
3. Pretend everybody at SC4D is a citizen (Nobody can claim a house though) of the new region, and can vote for projects.
4. Continue from there.

Really, I wish you continued with your MD, I think it really cool!!!

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Sumwonyuno: Actualy you're right on the dot. I'll try to keep the system simpler and less overwelming this time.

emgmod: Thats a good idea but I'm not going to throw away all my plugins and cities just yet.

Tomas Neto: I will don't worry.



Well I'm back after along time of brainstorming and trying to figure out what to do I will attempt a semi interactive cj with polls ... again.

Called Dan's Place: the Islands of Citystates.

heres a teaser:

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Hope you look forward to an update!

Interesting. Remember to not head into super micromanagement. We are only here to give opinions.

Daniel, I'm happy that you decided to continue with your MD!!!  :thumbsup:
Fantastic teaser my friend!!!  &apls &apls
Welcome to the "Best Sellers"!!!

Looks great!

Hey? Shouldn't this be in the Best Sellers section? Lol.

Yes, Alex. It should, its just waiting for a moderator to move it, these things these don't happen on their own, you know.

Well done, Dan! You're doing a nice job.

The trees are taking over the town!  Heh, and congratulations for 100 comments, and beating me to Best Sellers (when this is moved).

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sumwonyuno: You're right there are an awful lot of trees but thats a good thing. Yes This MD should be converted to Best sellers now.

Joelyboy911: Thanx and I hope it will be soon.

Driftmaster: Thanks and yes lol they're sure taking they're time.

Tomas Neto: I wouldn't let down my beloved readers now would I?

emgmod: Yes I have already taken note of that from all the stressful past experiences.


These are the cities you can live in so far:

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Maplebay

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Torington beach
Government System

The new Government by vote of majority ... Commonwealth republic.

I will list the jobs bellow:

Govonor of the republic (me)

Govonor General

Intendant Govonor

Mayor of each citystate

Cabinet members

Power engineer for each city state

Civic engineer for each citystate

Minister of Health

Minister of education

Minister of Utilities

Minister of Social services

Minister of recreation

Minister of progress and development

Minister of culture and heratige

Minister of funds

Minister of parties

Minister of foreign relations

Minister of Buissnes and ecenomics

Minister of safety

Secretary of defence

Store/ company owners

store/company managers

other citizens

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Until a Permenent Government structure is built my house will host as the parliment for now.

Wow, Daniel!!! There are many ministers in your government!!! I think that your government will be very calm!!!
Very nice update my friend!!!  :thumbsup:

I call Company Owner the store to the left of the museum plane in Maplebay, with the orange.

Edit: I also voted Private in the poll. I want to stall Healthcare Reform.

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Tomas Neto: Yes it is very efficient in making our people happy.

emgmod: Well this is mostly a democracy and more than half voted generaly public + its better for the poor who need urgent treatment too. Better life expectancies etc but there are privately owned facilities as well just they're not as prevelent.

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City center has expanded and construction on the new state govornment center has begun. Excitment in the community stirs as the new downtown aria has begun to take shape.

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Our beloved home team the everests won 7-5 in a game against the Torrington beach thunders in an exciting game! First period it seems we were down on our luck but second period Darwin Wilson came on the field as a distinguished quarterback and ended our game in sweet victory.

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The healthcare system has now been finalized as Advanced public. The taxes have been raised but some wanting private has led to the development of smaller less prevelent private clinics.

Nice pictures. I think it is interesting how you are deciding these things. However, your advanced public healthcare system needs to invest in some dependencies!

Seriously, that hospitals going to fall in to the abyss at any second.

Great update, Daniel!!! Especially the first image! Fantastic, my friend!  &apls &apls

Very nice work Daniel. You are a fine mayor, and your diary is developing nicely. Keep up the good work.

Geoff

Quote from: joelyboy911 on October 11, 2009, 11:50:50 PM
Nice pictures. I think it is interesting how you are deciding these things. However, your advanced public healthcare system needs to invest in some dependencies!

Seriously, that hospitals going to fall in to the abyss at any second.

Lol. Anyways a very cool update! May I suggest downloading a God Mode tree mod? It makes the land much more realistic. ;)

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joelyboy911: Yeah I'm still working on that.

Tomas Neto: Thanks thats the construction of the govornment center.

calibanx: Thanks.

Driftmaster07: I already have C.P. and SFBT god mode tree mods   &Thk/(  but thanks anyway   ;)


UPDATE

Just a teaser of new beach developments:

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4418/maplebaydec230612555649.png (http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4418/maplebaydec230612555649.png)

Looking nice. Ironically, I'm going to complain about your beach. I think you should have exited to the Region and re-entered the city before taking that picture, since the water has disappeared from above the lot. For me, that was one of the reasons I decided to use mayor mode flora plop beaches. But anyway, other than that its a nice picture. Also the fact that your waves look the way they do, is a little distracting. I don't know how or if that can be rectified, however.

Oh, to hell with it, one more little whinge. I also think (in my opinion only) that you should get a slope mod, since your streets look very, very steep.

What I do like in particular, is the Blue apartment, to the centre-right of the picture, as well as the small block directly above it in the picture. Lots of nice trees in that picture.

beaches, touchy subject, eh?  :P

Great work Daniel... However, I agree with Joel, I think you need a slope mod.

Other than that, looks good.

I was going to say something about possibly missing a dependency for the hospital, and the artifacts on the waves (why it looks messed up), but everyone beat me to it.  I looked back, and there's another picture that I'm reminded of, that has artifacts on the Maxis container ship as well.  It probably has to do with your video card or graphics settings.

Very nice beach, Daniel!!! And I agree with Sumwonyuno, it probably has to do with your video card or graphics settings.

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joelyboy911: I know but theres really nothing much I can do. Do you suggest a new water mod?

adroman: Thanks and where do you get this slope mod?

Sumwonyuno: I don't know I thought I downloaded them all but there were so many depenencies but I guess I don't really know.

Tomas neto: Maybe it is.

UPDATE

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Condos are poping up like no tomorrow now that were running out of land. So I thought I would display the new ones incase you would like to purchase one.


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The Maple Bay boardwalk project was a costly but much in demand project. The town is a coastal town but has no beaches wich both confused and eiritated people. This project has caused high end condos to pop up around the aria and lots of the residents enjoy relaxing and walking along the water and the beach is just plain fun.

Sams snack shack is a new local sensation with many quality snacks at affordable prices. it will get you craving more I can tell you that much.

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I thought I'd show you some of our towns industries. These places don't only bring jobs and goods to the town but money in land and export taxes. I mean why not make our own stuff instead of paying all those hastey inport fees?

Maybe here? (http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-1378940987028293:wyjdrk-l6zg&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Slope+Mod&sa=Search)

and I think Joel means is that if you exited and re-entered the region it'd look better... or use a different beach set-up.

Ah. Looks very good! Only reason I mentioned it was that I saw maxis trees. ;)

Lokks very nice, I really like your city.

Wow Daniel, fantastic city my friend!!! Great work!!!  :thumbsup:

adroman: Yeah I think exiting the region as you can see in this shot doesn't work.

Driftmaster07: Yeah thats ok but I have SFBT trees now too.

Earthquake: Thanks and its getting bigger too.

Tomas Neto: Thanx!  ()stsfd()

TEASER

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The Maple Bay boardwalk project expanding. I think It looks very beautiful my self.

Heh, now something else has gone wrong with the beach.  At least the changes you've made to boardwalk is a nice improvement to the setup you had before.

Hmmm. Whats up with the beach? :D Lol. Good job on the mini-update!

Nice teaser, but your beach is really strange. $%Grinno$%

I will come out and say that you may never fix that beach. Everyone ignore it for now.

Hi daniel, I agree with Earth quake, your beach is a little strange! Very nice teaser my friend!!!  :thumbsup:

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Sumwonyuno: I know I can't help it the beach is incomparable with the beach mod.

Driftmaster07: Yeah sigh ... thanks though.

Earthquake: Yeah I've been getting that comment alot.

emgmod: I probably won't but thanks.

Tomas Neto: Geese I've been getting that comment from every one, thanks though.

MINI UPDATE

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Tolketna Island: there will be a poll for this picture.

ATENTION

Who ever wants to live here full or part time PM me with information on where you want to live in the city and what job you will have.

Very nice island, Daniel!!!  :thumbsup:

Heh, the little island next to Tolketna isn't for sale?

Really nice island. :thumbsup:

You know, I really don't know how I missed this one for so long!  You've got an excellent variety of updates in here!  That island in your latest update looks particularly nice!  Keep up the great work, I'll try to do a better job of following this in the future!

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Tomas Neto: Thanks.

Sumwonyuno: Well its owned by the city state but it can be.

Earth quake: Thanks

Battlecat: Thanks for the great feed back any sujestions are welcome to make it better.

TEASER

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As you can see there are some new structures in the city.

Beautiful Teaser. &apls
This city is really splendid and nice.

Daniel, my friend, fantastic teaser!!!  :thumbsup:

That's a great looking city!  I like the boardwalk!

This question has always bugged me when I viewed this...

How do immigrants come to the citystates?

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Earthquake: Thanks!

Tomas Neto: Thank you.

Battlecat: Yeah I'm proud of the boardwalk too.

emgmod: well you need to attend citizen ship classes for two years then take a test to become a real citizen but entering the country you just need a pasport and ID.

SPECIAL UPDATE

Post count for the island of city states.
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most posts goes too Tomas Neto.

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most posts goes too Tomas Neto.

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most constructive post goes too Joelyboy911

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most meaningful post goes to Battlecat.

Thank you all for you're support. I hope to see you again soon.

You really should shrink those images.

Nice stats, Daniel! Good Work!!!  :thumbsup:

Hmm. Seems I haven't commented here in a while. Anyways, nice job on the last updates!

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emgmod: I've tried but it just screws them up.

Tomas Neto: Thanx

Driftmaster07: Thanks I try.

TEASER

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A UNSC Airshow over downtown.

Yeah guy, nice effect!!! Fantastic teaser!!!  :thumbsup:

Fascinating teaser!  Looking forward to seeing what's coming up!

Nice attempt at the air show.   :)

Very good! Better than I could. ;)

That's a really good attempt at an air show. You did better photoshopping than I have ever done in my life.

Judging by that lot that's about to sink into the Underworld, this might be a bombing.

beautiful teaser. :thumbsup:
The UNSC Airshow is really nice.

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Tomas Neto: Thanx

Battlecat: Well its here.

sumwonyuno: Thanks

Driftmaster07: thanks.

emgmod: no its just a lack of dependancies thats terrorizing the town.

Earth quake: Thank you.

UPDATE

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the island is finished but I'm having trouble with commute times. For example theres a house that the guy walks 5 tiles and is complaining about his commute time. Every one on this island is picky about they're commute time. Its uncanny!!

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heres a daytime picture.

Your island is looking great, might want to consider something different for your beach, it does not look natural. There are some options from cp for different shore textures, If you terraform the beach your results might look be better.

Daniel, nice island!!! Great work, guy!!!  :thumbsup:

That's a nice looking island, however, if I were you, I'd try to avoid taking pics with the "no job" zots and with the water bug ;)

I like the island. You just need to get a ferry between the island and the main area.

I also agree with terraforming the beach.

It's looking nice island.
But I don't like the beach, sorry. ()sad()
I should you to download a beach mod. :thumbsup:

The island is much more developed (and vertical) than I was expecting.  You should find some jobs for those Sims (somewhere on the mainland) pretty soon, or else those buildings will abandon.

That's a nice looking island Daniel. If you zone a small bit of Manufacturing and a little Commercial that island will come alive. I'm curious to see how it develops.

Take care.

Geoff

Nice looking little island.  How about a ferry to give them access to the mainland?  That could help with the job issue.  CSGDesign made a pretty nice compact passenger only ferry pontoon (http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/details.cfm?id=22187) that might be handy with your space constraints.  Still, it looks good!

That beach bug is one of the most tragic problems with this game, it still boggles my mind that Maxis never fixed it.

don't worry I'll update soon I'm just buissy right now.

Nice update dan! Can't wait for the new one!

Also while you guys are waiting I entered a town in the SC4D Thematic Contest so you can go check it out!

heres a peak at my town in the contest.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6961/torringtondec2400125892i.png (http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6961/torringtondec2400125892i.png)

Replies will be next update don't worry!

Nice shot of the town.  There's a lot of custom buildings in there that I've never seen before.

Beautiful plaza in the center of the city, Daniel!!! Very nice teaser!!!  :thumbsup:

A splendid teaser. :thumbsup:

Nice town...

I could be wrong, but I don't think you are allowed to show your village outside of the Thematic Comp. Board while the competition is still open... Again, I could be wrong.

Havva good one,
Adrian.

Nice little town you have. I have a tip for the "water bug" that pops up around your beaches. Go into the data view menu and select the zones option. Then turn it back off and the beaches should come out normally. I could be wrong; I never tested this with the beaches you use; just with other things that have the "water bug".

Also, use the cheat "tastyzots" to eliminate those no-job zots when you take your pics. Let us know if that works!

~ Dan

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Kwakelaar: I'll look into those textures but What about the beack props? These are the only ones I can find with props on them. Maybe I can make some omnecent base texture lots but it will be hard surfing the millions of props I have.

Tomas Neto: Thanks and here in N. America its man not guy in that kinda sentence  :D Thanks though.

io_bg: How do you get rid of the zots?

emgmod: I have something better. An underground subway connecting the islands.

Earth quake: Yes I probably should but maybe its not the beack maybe it the water mod.

sumwonyuno: They all have jobs but they're all ridiculously picky. If they have to walk 4+ tiles to work they have those zots! even the ones who drive not that far have dots. It makes me so mad I just want to blow up the island and build something different.

calibanx: I might start over because everyone on the island is being rediculousley picky about they're commute.  &Thk/(

danielcote: Hi me!!!  :P

Driftmaster07: Yep me neither but its here  ;D

sumwonyuno: Yes I made them custom for myself. All the Parks are 95% simgoober stuff. The base textures are C.P.   ;)

Tomas Neto: Thanks its custom made.

Earthquake: Thank you.

adroman: Oh you are. Other people in the challenge have already done it. Take Corsica for an example.

dsrwhat316: Ah ha thats the cheat to get rid of those annoying zots! Thanks , about the beach tweak, I'm not a technical genius and you're probably better than me but I have a feeling that its the water texture.

UPDATE ... FINALY

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introducing a new place ... Drace island resort. It will be in collaboration with the current story line.

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Drace Resort is more tropical than my subtropical counterpart, Maple Bay. It is very small with a population of around 200 and since it is a touristical community it has many small businesses.

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Eratap is currently the only maintained beach and is very popular, it's features are it's life guard and Carmon's Goody stand. Further in shore is  Hounders park. Left of it is the community grocer and upstairs is Lush salon and some office space. Right is the bake sale and the Thai kitchen with apartments upstairs. Across the street is the Drace resort medical clinic and some old apartments and lofts. People usualy use the forest around the island for hiking, walking, exploring and biking and quading.

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Far right is Edmond Tigers Department store and family restaurant. Right of penny fountain square is Douzers irish pub and on the other side of the square is the hound sports bar and grill. In the fore ground you can see the pools on the roves of the hotels, they're open at night but who would want to swim at 11:00?

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Here you can see the road end parking lot and Stradlers beach lined with its canoes and boats. You van also see the yards of the olds apartments and lofts.

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Here you can see all the board walk facilities including an all day ferry, restaurants, clothing outlets, gift shops, plazas, food shacks and even a small movie theatre.

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Here are the Onyx duplexes, mainly for the more well off to live in. Most of the store owners and hotel managers live here.

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Here you can see The Dover building of the Drace hotel complex. It was built  in 1997 and has been renovated since. Each building of the complex has a roof top pool, a tennis court, a resteraunt, lounge, cafe and a spa.

Your city looks great  :P

Drace island resort is a true paradise!!! Stunning beauty in your update!!!  &apls &apls

Drace Island is beautiful Daniel. You're doing some fine work. Keep it coming.

Geoff

Fantastic job on this island! 

Other excellent update.
It's a splendid island.

I am amazed; that island is beautiful!  &apls  Great work!

Man, that island is so cool, and the street scenes are wonderful. Really excellent job on that. Can't believe how much you managed to put on so little space and not have it appear cluttered.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

heres a pic from one of the older cities I made just to tie you over.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5313/taitonxingoct2705123828.png (http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5313/taitonxingoct2705123828.png)

Looks good. Where did you get the steps leading down towards your parking from the rails.  :D

Very nice city Daniel, I adore this kind of houses!!!  :thumbsup:

they are jeronij concrete walls.

don't worry replies are coming soon.

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scott 1964: thanx  ;)

Tomas Neto: It should be since I worked very hard on it. The idea of it came too me in a dream.  :)

calibanx: Thank you and don't worry I will.

Battlecat: thanks.  ()stsfd()

Earthquake: Many thanks my friend.  :)

Sumwonyuno: Thank you for the complement.

amapper: Yes it is beutiful and it actually it took me along time to try to figure out how I wanted to arrange it.

Scott1964: like I said before they're jeroinij concrete walls on STEX.

Tomas Neto: Yes I know the C.P. houses fit well with the mattb houses.

UPDATE

in this update we take the ferry and then transfer onto a bus for the ride inland and we end up in the the town of Blackhorse.

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7931/blackhorseskiresortsep1.png (http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7931/blackhorseskiresortsep1.png)
Heres where we end up (Black horse bus depot).

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heres an overview. Theres a couple of stores but not many, its quite a small town.

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on our day visit what I liked most about this town was they put nice parks and paths despite the size of it, although it was a touristical town witch probably influenced the building of the parks.

Now lets eat some where. Hmm ....  &Thk/( lets see um oh yeah why don't we try The Asian food kitchen on main street. I will have #11, hot Hot HOOT just the way I like it.

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mmm ...  ()stsfd() now that we had a good meal we can check out the new ski slope! We can't ski on it yet since its summer but we can still dirt bike Yeah!!!  :D

Great update Daniel!!! Very nice city, small and beautiful!!! Fantastic work my friend!!!  :thumbsup:

I am going to be starting a brand new journal, Green Bay. Fresh and I think I have some great Ideas along with some great cities. I'll see you there  ;)

Good luck on the new MD!  &apls

Ok Daniel!!! Then I'll follow your new MD, my friend!!!  :thumbsup: