The University of Clayhurst

[will62russ]

JBSimio-

Instead of the clock tower as an option, how about a classy water tower with the school name on it.  You see that a bit with large universities in rural areas?

I view University of Clayhurst, with it's red-brick facade buildings, as kind or an Ivy League school.  That being said, I believe any sports facilities used should be more understated instead of those mega-facilities you find at University of Michigan, USC, etc.

Just some of my thoughts.

[tamorr]

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EDIT: Got some more ideas. The language center could help boost tourism, and the culinary arts could  act as the reward trigger.

I believe this would work, Also the Culinary could add some health benifits, as in the other Hell's Kitchten series where he was helping restaurants get in the green by cleaning them up theoretically and help them make actual food that was a bit more healthy than what they did have... To each right is a good sign to living longer and healthier... So it could be another version of health to some degree... Is there a property that just boosts health in the area slightly? I don't know but definatley would work for the culinary....

   Language providing tourism is I believe a good idea as well... and possibly put into a reward chain latter on for a building that hasn't been made yet. Either way it would be feasible to some degree....

[jackfrost]

-will62russ

the style of architecture doesn't mean the sports complex cannot be EPIC. think of notre dame and michigan, both have great football stadiums and fantastic academics.

i want my school to be a football powerhouse. 

fantastic work jb!

-garrett

[markouellette]

Wow? I've always been annoyed with the Maxis Uni, huge and springing fully formed in my tiny city; the modular approach is much more realistic.

My suggestion for a building would be a Faculty of Agriculture.  They often have ancillary greenhouses and animal paddocks as well as really nice gardens around them.  It could also provide some farming CAP relief, although I'm not sure if this matters given EQ considerations.  It could provide some CAP relief for I-HT with all the new agricultural genetics grads.

[JBSimio]

Citycapitalizer:  I'm not sure I want the law school to act as a functioning police station... that might be stretching things a bit.  The campus security building will however provide police protection.  I'll have to look into just how the game defines "tourism."  It seems to me that there is no such thing really... possibly just a boost in CS demand?  Not sure, though...   

Will62russ:  A water tower, huh?  Hmmm...

Tamorr:  Yes, there is a way to give a small boost to health levels... but, once again, that me a bit more of a stretch than I want to make.  We'll see though...

Garrett:  Thank you!  I actually have three athletic facilities mapped out already and there will be some variety (as always!) 

Markouellette:  I've been toying with the idea of a School of Agriculture as well.  My only concern with this is that extra farm demand wouldn't do much good to most people.  Any city large enough to devote space to a sprawling campus would probably have trouble finding space left for farms anymore.  I like the idea... just not sure how useful such a boost would be in the game.

Thanks for all the suggestions and thoughts everyone... please keep them coming!  I'm not ruling anything out at this point, so don't let any hesitation fool you.  It mostly just me thinking out loud and hoping for additional feedback.  But in the meantime...

I made some final adjustments to the Swan Centre for Business Studies... mostly the roof, skylights, and lighting in the courtyard.  The changes are all very subtle, but I think they did the trick.  Here's a look:



I think I'm about ready to call this one finished.  I also exported the models for Tage Towers, which will form the basis for dormitory lots #4 and #5.  There will be a larger lot with all three towers clustered together, as well as a smaller lot with just one building on it for more flexibility.  This should probably finish all the modeling needed for EP1!!!     I still have a couple other lots to make and then we'll be down to final modding for everything.  This could still take some time, but things are definitely moving forward.

Since I was in a bit of a BAT mood today... I also thought you might like a sneak peak at one of the athletic buildings for EP2....



If you're a University of Michigan hockey fan, you might recognize where this one is coming from.  It's based loosely on Yost Ice Arena... but I'll be using it as an older field house for the more historically inclined among us. 

That's all for now,
JB

[woodb3kmaster]

I must say, Jon, the Swan Centre looks fantastic! Whatever little changes you made have really made the building look great. The new fieldhouse also looks great; I really like the Romanesque Revival architecture (probably because I see so much of it here at UCLA).

Looking forward to EP1!

[tahill79]

Gotta small problem.  I have downloaded and installed all dependencies and the buildings dont show up on the lots.   All the base textures and flora are there.

If you need a pic, I can post one.

Thanks for the help and awesome University!!!

[tag_one]

Lovely work on the university Jon! I really like the garden

[tamorr]

   Well thanks, at least the thought in mind is out. And yeah we'll see.


I aught to say that is some nice finishing touches you've made, and will be awaiting the EP1 with my patience held on tightly. I thought that face looked familiar to some degree, a good start for another addition.

[Jack_wilds]

Hello JBSimio, Jack wilds here...

For 'subtle' changes it made a for a better difference.  I hope it looks as good on my campus as it does here.  Particularly like the window walls and the courtyard 

Concerning the question about about an Ag-center...    here in WIS there is an university WI agricultural extension -the one in Marshfield, WI comes to mind and is typically with the 2-year smaller demographic campuses (ie UW-Marshfield, UW-Wausau) these out side living campuses cover everything pretaining to agriculture then transferable to Madison.  Perhaps something on this order could be made and if its plopped in a bigger city with lower ag value then it could act as academic, or small industry...  The new fieldhouse is looking promising

Don't worry about confusing the freshman class as the professors are pulling another prank on 'em with 'fake' free beer and watching 'em get drunk on placebos  -like the robins in autumn eating ash berries get drunk.  And no matter how much the upper 'underclass-persons' tell 'em its fake -it doesn't do any good...free beer can't be all bad, right? freshman! 

from the cold wind blown northwoods of the fox valley 

Jack

[JBSimio]

Zack:  Thank you!  I realized today the the field house is way out of scale right now... but it still gives an idea of the general style.

Tahill:  Every building for the starter pack can be found in BSC MEGA Props_JBSimio_Vol03  If you are quite positive that you have this installed, then feel free to post some pictures and I can take a look... although I can't think of any other reason you'd be missing these. 

Merijn:  Thank you!

Tamorr:  Thanks!  EP1 is just about down to the boring parts now...

Jack:  Thank you!  Your thoughts about an off campus facility for the School of Agriculture might be an option, although I'll need to consider how that might fit within the reward chains as they stand right now.  Ahh... the old free fake beer trick!  Seems like with all the bars in WI, even the freshmen would be able to tell the difference... but then again, who knows? 

Nothing to show quite yet.  I did the final export for the Swan Centre for Business Studies today.  I haven't checked any of these latest renders yet, but provided that none of them were corrupted, I'm hoping to get some lotting and modding done over the weekend.  My hope is to have all but one of the dorms (which is the last model yet to be finished) completely finished before Monday.  So stay tuned the next couple days for about five final lot images coming to a page near you!  (The page in question being this one... or perhaps page nine... you get the idea)

See you soon!
JB

[tahill79]

Thanks for the reply JB.  I havent checked my plugins to see if that pack is in there.  The Lex said that I downloaded it back in March 09.  I'll give it a try in the morning and let you know otherwise.

Again,  thanks for the reply and great University.

[Sciurus]

Waow, I think I've never seen this topic, and frankly, it's wonderful!!

Guillaume

[Jack_wilds]

Hello JBSimio, Jack wilds here...

A thought about the Ag-extension campus... perhaps being a part of the reward chain similar to BSC's Ag-reward set-up.  Then it could be a reward for good farming practices or perhaps poor farming practices soliciting a call from the UW Ag-extension 'know-it-all's'    as I did for a while as a soils management consultant/intern -before the budgets dried up then I went back to college.    

or it can be offered when there is more Ag fields than zones... maybe even something different could trigger it other than the usual...    

I'm sure a happy medium will come of it...

As for 'beer gate', your forgetting the operative word here, 'FREE'    As for 'all the bars in WIS...'  elements are working hard to be rid of such 'evil places' (prohibition talk) I'm for being responsible but when it starts to remove history, a neighborhood mom&pop places -particularly the rural places, then it too much... the crack-down on drunk or buzzed driving is getting really severe that a dose of cough medicine or listerine could get a guy in trouble.  I could go on as this is turning into yet another soapbox. 

from the cracker barrel of the fox cities

Jack 

[thingfishs]

Really great work jbsimio   
I think that swan centre looks gorgeous. I love the central area, with the descending steps & garden.
I am a uni student myself and I really appreciate that like my, and I suspect most, universities: yours is a mixture of buildings from different eras. The old grand stone buildings side by side with modern business schools etc. that helps an awful lot in making it seem fully real.
I'll be sure to follow this and offer any ideas I can.

[JBSimio]

Tahill:  You're welcome... I hope the problems are solved.   

Guillaume:  Thank you!  Glad you found the thread. 

Jack:  Thanks for the additional thoughts.  So many ideas to sift through... I'm going to need a new "Clayhurst notebook" soon! 

Thingfishs:  Thank you!  I'm slowly trying to increase the variety available.  This first pack was mostly older buildings, so hopefully these newer ones will balnce things out a bit.

Alright... got all five dorms on what I think are finished lots.  I also got all the prop exemplars and modding done for the same buildings.  Had to spend a lot of time sifting through the starter pack to remember how to mod these dorms, but I think I got it all sorted!     I've shown some of these before... but just to put them all in one place again, here are the five (with one last dorm still on the way)

Roth Residence Hall - 3x2 lot, counts as a medium sized dorm


Stropon Hall - 5x4 lot, counts as a medium sized dorm


Diggis Hall - 5x4 lot, counts as a medium sized dorm


Payce - Rooker Hall - 5x5 lot, counts as a large sized dorm


Tage Towers - 6x5 lot, counts as a large sized dorm


Like all the other Clayhurst lots, the crowds of people come and go quite a bit.  There are more on these lots than it might look like here, I promise!  They're all pretty straight forward, so I'm not sure what else to say about them. 

More to come...
JB

[RippleJet]

Tage Towers - 6x5 lot, counts as a large sized dorm

[thingfishs]

They look great JB, excellent collection of realistic uni buildings. 

Something I have learnt through playing this game is things don't always look from above as you might imagine they would. Nonetheless I believe in copying reality as closely as possible. The one thing that stands out to me with your buildings is the constant, even distribution of those white squares on the roof (air-conditioning vents or whatever they are). Is it realistic for all the buildings to have this same setup? If it is then that's the way it should be, it's just the only thing that looks a little repetitive to me.

This first pack was mostly older buildings, so hopefully these newer ones will balnce things out a bit.

Well that's how it should be. Universities tend to be old beasts, with their primary structure developed early but with all kinds of new needs to cater to as time marches on. You are making hard not to play the game. (I've been learning to BAT and have only been loading SC4 when I'm checking one out in-game...)

[simdad1957]

Excellent work JB, I'm really looking forward to EP#2........the beauty of a modular university is that the more buildings you have, the greater the variety of campusses(sp) you can create.

I would agree with Jack_Wilds, the idea of an offsite location for a proposed agricultural campus makes a lot of sense. Here in the eastern fringes of the "great white north", the Nova Scotia Agricultural College is located in Truro NS, about 100km north of the main campus of Dalhousie University in Halifax. It is a small specialized university campus in it's own right, with it's own teaching buildings, dorms and research barns.

I agree that an agricultural college could be tied into a farming reward chain and thus could be located in a specialized agricultural region. All you would really need to do is tie the main teaching building to the reward chain and then we could fill in the campus with all the other great buildings you have created for the rest of the campus.

If you do take on this task, the only other suggestion I would have is that you might want to consider modelling some greenhouses and teaching barns to flesh out the campus.

This of course would probably end up being EP#5  , but that's OK, take your time.......we don't want you to burn out!! 

[dsrwhat316]

Those dorm buildings look excellent, Jon! I really like the low-rise ones, although the rest aren't without their charm 

I'm really intrigued by the Swan Centre from your previous entry. Just looking at it gives me ideas for its usage  .

~ Dan