Crash to Desktop (CTD) when the city is loading

[Nich]

Hi people.
I have a big trouble.
When I start my city and the loading is almost finished, bum, crash to desktop (CTD).
I tryed to change my plugin folder (I have backup), but my city crashed again.
So, I tryed to change my city (I have an ancient backup), with the recent plugin folder, and the city works well.
So, my old city with my new plugin folder works well, my new city doesn't work well with the new and the old plugin folder.
I want to play my new city... Is there a way?

My last donwload's:
CSX Industrials - TM Propellant
CSX Industrials - Bretton Motor Worx
(and all of dependencies).

And the last bat's to grown in my city:
CSX Industrials - TM Propellant
BLS Soton Tyres BSC

After this, I can't restart.

If somebody knows how to help me...

Thanks.

And forgive me some mistakes.

Nich

[canyonjumper]

What OS are you running (Windows XP, Vista, 7, Mac)? And did you try removing all the plugins? What about drivers? are they all up to date?
And if all else fails, reinstall. It worked when I switched to Windows 7.
                 -Jordan

[jmyers2043]

if I understand correctly. The game works fine. Just not THAT city with THOSE plugins.

It sounds like something was removed or changed when you added the files you listed.

Two things that come to my mind when you mention how the game crashes when loading.

First - I don't recall any of those files as having problems. And there are (I think) plenty of folk who have them working properly in their game. So I'm going to set that hypothesis aside for the moment. Things that 'grow' are generally not problematic. Things that plop - like seaports have potential.

So I want to know if you have or have had PEG and/or the BSC seaports in your plugin. Those two do not work well together. Maybe one was accidentally moved in or out when you added those CSX files. I remember a long time ago that I had an early PEG seaport in my plugins. I removed the seaport but forgot to demolish it from my city first. that crashed the city. I had to reinstall the PEG file in my plugins, open the city, demolish, save, THEN removed it from the plugins. All was well afterwards.

The other thing that I know (from experience) is that you can not have two cycledogs terrain controllers. Such as Missouir Breaks terrain AND Meadowshire terrain controllers. That will cause a crash similar to what you're experiencing. One or the other, not both.

No silver bullet. I'm affraid you're going to have to do the searching. Find out what changed and hope someone else will respond with other ideas. I don't think a re-install is the answer as you have said the game works fine so long as you don't combine a specific plugin and city.

You can also try a divide and conqure method. Move half of your plugins somewhere else and see if the city opens ok. If not, move it back and them move the other half. Try again. See if that gets you anywhere.

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Is there something else you did but didn't think to mention. Such as use the dat packer to merge the CSX files?

[Nich]

canyonjumper, thanks! I use Windows Vista. But, the game works well. "Just not that city with those plugins".

jmyers2043, thanks!
Lets go:

First off all, yes! I have PEG and BSC seaports in my plugin and in that city working together.
But, I followed the steps taught by RippleJet  (http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=7138.msg227105#msg227105) and they work fine since last november.
I'm sure that I didn't remove any file by myself.

I think that I don't have cycledogs terrain controllers. I searched for "terrain" and didn't find cycledog terrain (Missouir or Meadwshire), but I found an irregularity: three columbus terrain mod working together. I fixed. But, it happens a months.

So, jmyers2043, there is something else... I'm sure that I didn't remove any files by myself, but... I used the cleanitol.

RemoveListBRTCoalMine (BRT Minecorp Coal Mine_d1445240.SC4Lot)

RemoveListBSCMEGAPropsNewmanIncVol02 (BSCBATProps cnut Farm Props Vol03.dat, cnut_SG_Canal_Addons1.dat, cnut_Small_Shops.dat, Newman Inc Prop Pack Vol3.dat)

RemoveListIHT_Models (SG_FactoryHiTech_InternalGasses-0x5ad0e817_0xb29c8624_0x30000.SC4Model, SG_FactoryHiTech_InternalGasses_IHT-0x6534284a-0xad4ba465-0x500dc8a3.SC4Desc,
SG_FactorySC4Tech.dat,
SG_GooberGenLabs.dat,
SG_GooberGenPharm.dat,
SG_WarehousesModern.dat)

What do you think about it?
Once more, forgive me some mistakes. I'm still learning how to speak and write in English.

Thanks. I will keep search.

[jmyers2043]

Hello Nich

Try this thread. Some good information about CTD's

http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=6744.msg214433#msg214433