Different Farm Fields

[mrbisonm]

Hi Fred

To get those farms to grow wheat instead of banana's you need to change the field lot property in the building exemplar.

the id you need is this one 0x0F043DF9 which is what I used in a lot I made.
Thought I'd save you the trouble of trying to figure it out 

Its really easy to do, open the building exempler, double clik on the field lots and another window opens. delete the id that are there, replace with the one above, clik the "right" apply button, then the "left"one. the window will close. right clik in the right hand pane and select reindex. then save the lot and test in game - it should work (hope I got that right what with my  memory and all )

Hope that helps
Derry

Just 2 more questions before I attack this. Do I open the *JFM Farms Vol 03* datfile to change the id, and do I have to change each farm's id? Yes, it was that file to open and modify.

The other question: Do I have to destroy all the farmfields already existing in my cities or can I do this later? I learned if I don't bulldoze the existing farms, then they will stay as banana farms, probably because I did not delete the banana tree prop.

Thanks

Fred


EDIT:  TheTeaCat, you made it easy enough for me to understand. I tried what you said and it worked. Now I have wheat fields growing with my Captn' Banana farms, just what I wanted.

You can add more than one field lot by adding additional REPS into this property, just add more IDs in the "Value as text" line, each one separated by a comma. As usual, click on the "Apply" button ( Is this the same line as I entered the other id to get the wheatfield?) next to this input field first and then on the other "Apply" button below before closing the editor window - and naturally, don't forget to save the farm lot (the DAT file in this case).

In case you want to add the IDs of the Maxis farm fields, use this line: 0x00024100,0x2A6E4309,0x2A6E431D,0xAA6E4328,0x6A6E4332,0xEA6E4721,0xEA6E4722 It's not necessary to remove any of the banana field lots from your plugins folder, and I think you should keep the banana truck, as it's also used on the actual farm lot (unless you remove it with the Lot Editor, i. e. for removing the palm trees and such).

Thanks everyone for helping me out, this is new to me (and also somewhat exiting.....lol) and very much appreciated.

Fred

[FrankU]

Hi, this is an interesting thread. Would it be possible to edit this into a tutorial?
I will probably try to do some of this modding myself, one of these days.

[Lowkee33]

Sorry if I made it too confusing...  Will work on that.

Multiple IDs separated by commas would be done in the "Values as text" line.  The "Add/Remove" buttons will add/remove a box where one ID would be placed.

They are just different ways to do the same thing.  Values as text makes it easy to add/delete multiple IDs at once, while the boxes make it easy to pinpoint one ID that you want to change.

Values as text can also be copy/pasted to/from a text program (notepad), so when you find a field configuration you like you can use that technique.

There are a lot of ways to make things fast in Reader.  The exemplar analyzer can list the "field lots" property of every exemplar in the file.  You can then change them all at once.

[mrbisonm]

Thanks Lowkee33 , I will surely try this later tonight and have same farms growing with different fields. Besides the SG farm fields dat, is there another file like this with different farmfields?

Fred

Edit: btw, I am learning quite a lot of things about "tweaking" files here, not only for farms , but in general. I haven't opened the Reader so many times in such a short time before....lol

[Lowkee33]

Edit: btw, I am learning quite a lot of things about "tweaking" files here, not only for farms , but in general. I haven't opened the Reader so many times in such a short time before....lol Wink

A few more days in Reader making flora work the way I want and I might start zoning again .  Wait, I want to make some lots too...

There are quite a few farm fields out there.  BSC Farm Fields - CSX Vol01 to name one.  I think a good way to find them on the LEX is to search "agriculture" in the Maxis section of power search.  Then instead of downloading the farms downloading the fields that are listed as dependencies. 

[mrbisonm]

  I think a good way to find them on the LEX is to search "agriculture" in the Maxis section of power search.  Then instead of downloading the farms downloading the fields that are listed as dependencies.  

Great idea, thanks for the hint.

Fred

EDIT:

Also thanks to Andreas of mentioning that it is possible to add multiple farmfields to one farmlot. It worked fine for me.

[mightygoose]

don't forget to grab Hun88's grain field on the stex.

[mrbisonm]

don't forget to grab Hun88's grain field on the stex.

Hun88 and nor grainfield did not bring anything while doing the search on STEX.

Fred

[jmyers2043]

I did a saerch for Hun88 adn fuond HunD88 ...         

http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/details.cfm?id=21219



- Jim

[FrankU]

Hund88 also had a beautiful Sunflower field

http://www.simtropolis.com/stex/details.cfm?id=21220

Have fun!

[mrbisonm]

Thanks Jim for the link, no wonder I couldn't find him.

Thanks FrankU also, that surely is a nice sunflowerfield.

Anyone knows if there's potatofield somewhere?

Now, how do I get this to be on a growing farm, I cannot seem to find the id number. Is it in the desc file, lotfile or modelfile? And where? Thanks


Fred

[Lowkee33]

The ID would be in the Lot file.  It is just the Instance #.  If you see my second picture I have a tobacco Lot opened with the ID highlighted.  My first picture is of Jmyers farm referencing that ID.  (I had about 5 other pictures until Andreas said everything ).

[mrbisonm]

....and I wasn't looking in the right place. I went through the value sections of each file.
I guess in my case it would be the id shown in red that I will have to add to the fgrowable lotfile, right?

Thanks again, much appreciated.




Fred

[Lowkee33]

That should do it.   

[mrbisonm]

Thanks, it did it.....

Fred

[Lowkee33]

I am doing some prop searching for a new region and happened to find This.   It is a prop pack from Pmiller19574 of farm crops.  I know you want to BAT your own models, but interesting none the less.

[mrbisonm]

I am doing some prop searching for a new region and happened to find This.   It is a prop pack from Pmiller19574 of farm crops.  I know you want to BAT your own models, but interesting none the less.

Interesting alright, I downloaded, tried and kept them, quite useful.
I was wondering about that line of *value as text* in a lotfile....how many different id's of farmfields can we enter in this line, is it unlimited?

Thanks

Fred

[Lowkee33]

Not too sure.  I think it would be unlimited.

SC4 picks from the list at random.  I believe that multiple entries of the same field will increase its chance of growing.

[mrbisonm]

Not too sure.  I think it would be unlimited.

SC4 picks from the list at random.  I believe that multiple entries of the same field will increase its chance of growing.

At the moment I have 13 different fieldlot's instances ("id's" or whatever you call them) with one of jmyers2043 growable farmlots. It seems to work quite alright and I have had at least 6 of them grow yet, all with different fields. Fun!.....lol I really enjoy the variation.
It's also fun , now that I know how to do them... Thanks to you guys.

I have seen one farm that I opened with the reader that had the same instance twice, and I was wondering why. I just left it so, thinking that there must be a specific reason for it. Now that you mention that it might increase the chance of growing, it makes sense to me.

Fred

[TheTeaCat]

Did this list for myself a while back and thought I'd lost it but no
thought it'd be handy for other folks too.

A list of  farm field id's out there  and which dat they come from.


SG_Farm_Fields_BSC_sf.dat


0x0f33bd8b---SG FarmField - AniseedSeasonal
0x4f043e6e---SG FarmField - BeansSeasonal
0x4f33af03---SG FarmField - CantaloupeSeasonal
0x4fo43e28---SG FarmField - CornSeasonal
0x4f33af03---SG FarmField - CottonSeasonal
0x0f07d36c---SG FarmField - FlowersSeasonal
0x0f043eb2---SG FarmField - GreensSeasonal
0x4f33bd45---SG FarmField - HopsSeasonal
0xef33bdfa---SG FarmField - LiquoriceSeasonal
0x8f2d2317---SG FarmField - MelonsSeasonal
0xcf33afe0---SG FarmField - PeppersSeasonal
0x4f33bbb1---SG FarmField - Peppers mixed
0x4f33afc6---SG FarmField - Peppers red
0xcf33bbbe---SG FarmField - Peppers yellow
0xcf33be20---SG FarmField - PotatoesSeasonal
0xcf33beaf---SG FarmField - PumpkinsSeasonal
0x2foc2ab5---SG FarmField - RiceSeasonal
0xef33be4b---SG FarmField - SoybeansSeasonal
0x8f33bf18---SG FarmField - SugarCaneSeasonal
0x8f33bfaf---SG FarmField - TobaccoSeasonal
0xef33bfce---SG FarmField - TomatoesSeasonal
0xef07a216---SG FarmField - TulipsSeasonal
0x8f33bfee---SG FarmField - WaxBeans
0x0f043df9---SG FarmField - wheatSeasonal


Bls_fieldsmerged_sf.dat


0x8f924d9d---BLSGA FarmField - Ainseed
0xae196879---BLSGA FarmField - BananasSeasonal
0x6e1bd45d---BLSGA FarmField - Barley
0x8dce3765---BLSGA FarmField - Cabbages
0x8dce7e3d---BLSGA FarmField - Chilli Peppers
0x4df87daf---BLSGA FarmField - Corn
0x8dce4ebd---BLSGA FarmField - Grapes
0x4e61b2e0---BLSGA FarmField - Grapes Seasonal
0xee587ec0---BLSGA FarmField - Hay
0xae1102b8---BLSGA FarmField - Hops
0x0dc3b733---BLSGA FarmField - Lavender
0xad79e66f---BLSGA FarmField - Lemon Trees
0x8dee18ec---BLSGA FarmField - Lettuce
0xad79c821---BLSGA FarmField - Lime Trees
0x6f057b94---BLSGA FarmField - Lime Trees v2
0x8f924df0---BLSGA FarmField - Liquorice
0xedd7f461---BLSGA FarmField - Pasture
0x4ebe953c---BLSGA FarmField - Pine Trees
0x8dce4577---BLSGA FarmField - Pineapples
0x6e17f4bd---BLSGA FarmField - Pumpkins
0x6dce3305---BLSGA FarmField - Soybeans
0xcf263c04---BLSGA FarmField - Chilli Peppers
0xcf6fb746---BLSGA FarmField - D66 - Wildflowers
0xade2eacf---BLSGA FarmField - HoneyFlowers01
0x8dc73040---BLSGA FarmField - HoneyFlowers02
0xee2a0390---BLSGA FarmField - Wheatseasonal
0xae1ca1a7---BLSGA FarmField - Sunflowers Seasonal
0xaf1e2c5a---BLSGA FarmField - Carnations
0xef869c6e---BLSGA FarmField - Lavender Day Lilies D66
0xef88174f---BLSGA FarmField - Lily Mystery
0xef881884---BLSGA FarmField - Merry Marigolds
0x8f869d50---BLSGA FarmField - Orange Day Lilies D66
0xaf869ce9---BLSGA FarmField - Orange-red Day Lilies D66
0x8f869f6f---BLSGA FarmField - Pink Day Lilies D66
0xaf86a039---BLSGA FarmField - Purple Day Lilies D66
0x4f869fcd---BLSGA FarmField - Purple Mixed Day Lilies D66
0x2f86a06a---BLSGA FarmField - Red Day Lilies D66
0x0f1b7cdc---BLSGA FarmField - Red Roses
0x8f866a8a---BLSGA FarmField - Star Gazer Lilies D66
0xef86a0cb---BLSGA FarmField - Yellow Day Lilies D66
0x2f86a115---BLSGA FarmField - Yellow Marigolds D66
0x6f1b7d21---BLSGA FarmField - Yellow Roses
0xaf86a095---BLSGA FarmField - YellowPinkMixed Day Lilies D66

0x0ff57698---RPT BLSGA FarmField Agave



The following one is from JFM Green Meadows


0x50e78750---Crop 16 Randon HayBales


There are some more out there which I will edit in once I find them.
hope this is of some help to others
Wheew now I need a cuppa

Derry