Plaza Mall project

[Pat Riot]

Shouldn't other people be able to edit the lot, incase they want to make it so that it works for their city? For example, my cities tropical, so it would be nice if i were able to edit the lot and replace the seasonal trees with palms.

[dragonshardz]

you can edit the lot, but you can't release the edit without permission. and I know the "false" dependency is over at PEG's somewhere...

[Pat]

Patriots yes you can edit the lot to your liking.... far as i know Ryan has said and Tage that if add more it will max out and start to make things disappear due to 1280 items max allowed on a lot...  You can of course start from scratch and delete everything from the lot and do it yourself too... What i suspect that palp is experiencing is a unique problem...

interestingly enough I've made my 2525th post here lol

[Palpatine001]

Yes it is a very unique problem

and I suspect my LE could be playing up as well

Before I decide to relot the entire thing here is 2 pics of my the scanner showing the missing files

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p5/Palpatine001/Fracked1.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p5/Palpatine001/Fracked2.jpg

Cleanitol has been used and the folders organised properly

And yes I downloaded and updated ALL dependencies listed in the README

Errr anyhelp as this is a great lot - minus the missing base textures...

[xxdita]

I just wanted to tell you guys that I really love this lot. Hopefully the food court has a Sbarro's? 

[BarbyW]

The textures you are missing, Palp, are in ALN Plaza Mall Textures ChrisAdmams3997 here as linked in the Readme: http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=1243

[Filasimo]

If there is anyone who is having some issues with the plaza mall please show pics of the mall ingame. apologies to anyone who are having problems.

[Filasimo]

ok everyone due to the extent of some testing and some member testing of the lot after its release there are some undetected problems that need to be addressed such as parking lot poles showing up with the lamp pole props and also some LOD issues with the building itself. if anyone has already downloaded this mall, please show some pics of the mall to verify the recent findings. once the problems have been addressed an update will be provided.

again thanks for your support and apologies are given to all

Ryam

[Heblem]

just to notify those are false dependencies:

[Filasimo]

ok sorry for triple posting but i have some good news and bad news that you may or may not like to hear....
First off, there are LOD issues with the mall model itself such as the bases of the building are incorrect, also the lamp props are showing up also the streetlights prop also making it look really tacky.....as a result i will have to remove it and make sure its working properly afterwards... BUT i will be able to add more eyecandy props as a result....i would like to know what else could be added to the lot since i have more breathing room i was thinking about adding more seasonal trees but any other suggestions are welcome  again we apologized for the inconvenience's that this has caused everyone  anyways let the suggestions begin! 

[Filasimo]

im really 0-2 in this posting concept also if a member rushes the development of any further projects that we do well only take our time more so keep that in mind 

[Palpatine001]

BarbyW: Already have that texture pack in question however I'll recheck my plugin folder to make sure everything is where it should be.

In the meantime LE is allowing me to Re-Edit the Mall so I am going to shrink the lot a little and remove some of the carparks and replace it with underground parking, also I'll replace the textures as well to get round the problem

But now I can give a  for a great mall - just a shame my end seems to be screwed up 

[Chrisadams3997]

Well Palp, an ingame or LE pic of the lot will let us know better what your missing, but any texture starting with 0xf338xxxx, as Barby said, is one of my textures, so it looks like you missed that pack.

[Palpatine001]

After much frustration  of trying to hunt down a missing texture set for the LBT Plaza Mall, I decided to relot the beast and alter a few things around.

For one I shrunk the depth from 24 to 23 tiles before removing some surface carparks and replacing them with another parking garage, a bus stop and a construction site where underground parking will be.
I also took care of the missing textures by replacing them with others I had in my LE collection while leaving the lot properties alone for now and this is what I came up with



and closer up this



Not too much has changed, just needed to get round the texture issue

Otherwise again  to the creators of Plaza Mall 

Even closer pics can be found here: http://simcities.com/forum/index.php?topic=1563.new#new

[relics8801]

Hello LBT's good members and all 

I have some problem about Dependecies same Palpatine001 and Heblem posted. 
Of course, I already have all of dependencies-files wrote on Readme.

and I opend a LOT with LE. Please look this one.

These base-textures are not disply correct too.

Do you have any idea ??


However, This big Plaza-Mall is wonderful and powerful work!!
Thank you for sharing them LBT teams !!


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@Palpatine001
Wow!! It's great re-prop work 

[Filasimo]

relic san,
domo arrigato gozaimasu for visiting the thread and also pointing it out. im bout to load LE and take a look...keep posted ill be updating this in a min or so 

[edit] After looking in LE there apparently is some strange texture conflicts or issues when overlays are placed on top of it although some base textures that are missing do not have overlays...it also may be the cause that even if you hit the item threshold at 1280, the lot may be unstable.. since i will be relotting and taking out some prop issues that  were undetected at time of finalizing i will test around further and have some people testing it. expect an update to the plaza mall in the LEX in the coming days. as i mentioned before since ill have more free space for adding more props (which will be the same props in the prop packs that are deps for this lot so no worries) i will also adress this issue as well.. so as anyways STAY TUNED for the update fix to the lot 

Ryan

PS: also the model pack will also be updated also due to some LOD issues that the mall model had that also were not detected during testing.

[Pat]

Its all good Ryan.... By far this is still damn good mall and the best out there my friend.... please please dont beat your self up over some issues that wasnt caugh... __it happens and you know the first part lol - pat

[Filasimo]

hey guys i have one thing for you all to do if you have the plaza mall....anyone interested and would like to report back to me regarding the texture issues...if you are interested i would like for you to create a new plugin folder with just the mall and deps or if you have startup manager to set everything thats related to the plaza mall....run LE and see if everything shows....another theory i have could be a texture conflict with other textures that some people have...ive seen other pics of the mall by other members and the textures are showing up fine. if you are interested in doing the procedures i just mentioned, i would like feedback from you guys...again thanks for your support and cooperation with this project.

Ryan 

[Pat]

Ryan I'm reporting in here with what i found.... Well I downloaded everything again on the list and put everything to to the desktop before installing.... I then moved everything from my plugins folder as you said... then i wen threw and clicked on all the installers... What i did to avoid any confusion i set up separate folder for all the read mes and cleanital files and installers.... Once i was done installing that dependency i moved the installer to the junk folder with the read mes and cleanital files...

So i repeated the process over and over again till all the files was installed in the plugins folder... I then went threw in my plugins folder i setup a folder "plaza mall lot by Ryan" sub folders for "plaza mall dependency", then "essentials" and then "plaza mall by Hab".... I then moved stuff around accordingly to fit in folders as follows....

Plaza mall by hab...

LBT Plaza Mall lot_d412feb4 sc4lotfile
LBT Plaza Mall.dat
LBT Plaza Mall Props.dat

Plaza Mall Dependence's

NDEX Foundations and Retaining Walls 1
CS$$2_3x2_VipsResturaunt _13d1ddc8
LM3x2_Vips Resturaunt_b3d08622
vips2-0x5ad0e817_0x53cd129b_0x30000
vips3-0x5ad0e817_0xb3cd124a_0x30000
vips3-0x6534284a-0x937374bc-0x33d07319
peg_Krispy-Growable_8eeaa729
PEG_KrispyKreme-Kom_LOT_205
PEG_KrispyKreme-Kops_LOT_205
PEG_KrispyKreme_Engine_205
SG_Models_Restaurants

Plaza Mall Essentials

WalkingSnake Textures Vol 01
SG_SmallProps
SG_SmallProps
PEG_PineTrail Grass_TEXTURE
PEG_MTP_TEXTURES_vol1
PEG_MTP_RESOURCE_vol1
NDEX Base Texture Set 1
MBT_Extras
LBTtexts
LBT_PropPack
LBT Prop Pack 2
CSX MEGA Props - Vol03
BSCBATProps JenP Vol03
BSC Textures Vol 02
BSC Textures Vol 01
BSC MEGA Props - SG Vol 01
BSC MEGA Props - CP Vol01
ALN_Plaza Mall Textures

Well with my folder structured like so i then fired up LE and with out any problems... Everything loaded just fine and ingame i will try next but i believe it will load with out a problem as well.....

Here is the LE shot of "Plaza Mall"



Ingame pics and this is without full plugins folder in play.....





Pics of the mall with full plugins folder for LE...

here are the parking lot lamps and you can see the fancey lamps as well...



and here is anther image with the textures and showing that i do indeed have the full plugins or at least part of the list....

[Shadow Assassin]

Pat, I also suggest loading that lot in the LE as well with all of your plugins. It will take longer, but it can't hurt to be sure.