Transparent Surface Plopable water ... one step further ?¿

[jeronij]

zero7, so... in spain the water is blue and in finland is green .....        


Many trues have been said here, some of them really proof  , and since I agree with most of them, I will keep making some more variated textures for the first release  . Thanks to all for sharing your feedback 

[zero7]

zero7, so... in spain the water is blue and in finland is green .....        

I wasn't expecting such a dramatic contrast when I went to look 

And if I'd picked London, the Thames would have been a browny grey and if I'd picked somewhere else the colour would have been different again.  That's the point really.  At any given angle water colour is a combination of what is suspended in it and (mostly) what is reflected in it - the range of possible colours is so large that for daytime as long as you are somewhere on the blue-green spectrum you are likely to have a colour that represents water somewhere in the world.


(And that's coming from someone who sits firmly in the 'realist' camp of content creators)

[iamgoingtoeatyou]

WOW! you are master, this looks beyond excellent

[BigSlark]

It seems that my poor proofreading caused an uproar. I apologize. I think the new ploppable water is great and would love to see it released, I was actually referring to the grass on the river bank.

My only suggestion is that some better ground cover would look great. The dark green grass in c. from Jeroni's reply looks like dark green paint on the river bank..

I was following the logic that c.p.'s newer trees look really real as do his terrain mod textures and why couldn't 4 ft. (1m) grass besides a river have a similar look?

And I have to agree with David, he has hit the mark again, as usual.

So, once I again, I apologize and hope to see this on the LEX soon.

A humbled and embarrassed cheers,
Kevin

[Serkanner]

Kevin, I don't think you are personally responsible for causing any uproar here in this topic. Many calm and wise voices have spoken already about what we might and might not expect from either the game and or modifications.


-edited. unnecessary comments - jeronij

[callagrafx]

These are looking superb Jeroni...another barrier torn down 

Oh and btw everyone, water is colourless 

[Shadow Assassin]

Exactly, it's only the particles mixed with the water that give it its colour. The reason why water appears, say, blue, is because it's deep.

Oh, and it reflects light in the blue part of the visible light spectrum, too.

[Pat]

Kevin, I don't think you are personally responsible for causing any uproar here in this topic. Many calm and wise voices have spoken already about what we might and might not expect from either the game and or modifications.

I agree also with you Serkanner that Kevin had no cause in the Uproar..... The second part of your statement is too funnie, i cant stop laughing about it....

Lee, good point and also to add that it sure aint oderless either lol....

[Jmouse]

Personally, I think these comments sum it up pretty well:
"We see what we want to see." - Pat
"I want to move a viewer's imagination." Ennedi
SC4 is a simulation, so the "reality" of it exists only in our own individual perception of reality.
This new version of plopable water is now first in a VERY long line of contributions from the gifted and talented. As a devoted player, I just do the best I can with what I have and cover up the little glitches with trees!

Until next time...
Joan

[thundercrack83]

I'll defer to the experts on the criticisms, but from my layman's eye, I like it! It gives another dimension to the ploppable water and I can't wait to play with it! Great job!

[jeronij]

Hello again and thanks to all for your support in this project 

I want to include three different water colours in the first release, and I have been working with a greenish ( perhaps too green  ) and a dirty ( perhaps not too dirty    ) versions for this transparent water.

I have decided to test both waters before I complete all the models. This is the result.

I wanted to simulate an small agricultural area, with one of these illegal wastelands, and even thinking that I should have worked the details a bit more, I also think that the pictures are worth posting them.

First four aerial views on the whole area:











I also wanted to see how these new different waters would fit in the game. This is the first test. Really plain. Blue water to green water. I post some views from different zoom levels







With a little more work it would look even better 



Now lets have a look to the new waters .... green and brown....



Here is where the relative clean green water mixes with the dirty brown water. For a first try is not that bad 



In this second attemp, the brown water mixes with the green .... a bit more elaborated perhaps....



Why are we, humans, able to do such things ? 



The wasteland soils the water for a strecht..



Fortunately the clear water from the other stream helps the situation 





Now a new attemp to a rapids area and a mix with real water. Unfortunately, this last point is the main drawback actually with this type of water 



The rapids/small waterfalls do not look that bad, but the transition to the real water is poor....



What do you think about the new waters  ?¿




I hope you like the whole set. I have also experinced with the MAX material that I used, so you may notice some differences between the water textures.... tell me if you particularly like any of them 

[RippleJet]

I like all of them, Jeroni!
And I can imagine how people will be using the brown water in industrial areas...

[emilin]

First of all: I can't wait for this to be released. This is truly amazing stuff!

Second: textures and transparancy... I really don't know which is the best. The blue water is probably more alround then the others, I think that for usability the transparancy of the green and "dirty" textured water is probably a little low. I would like a "plainer" surface for those two aswell.

[LoneRanger]

What do you think about the new waters.

I was allready sold after seeing the first pictures you posted but it even gets better 
The colors look fine to me [well ok maybe a little to green ] but it prolly depends on wich
surface texture you play/build.

Again, excelent stuff. 

[pvarcoe]

I like them exactly as they are.
I can see myself using them all over "Teton".

Great work Jeronij, and Thanks!

[Pat]

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm WOW Jeroni you have truly pushed this bar higher and higher...
I really am left speechless here.... WOW WOW WOW
The Brown Color water is stunning looking great and how well it mixes with the green water dang its
just soo good... I love the pollution shot, its soooooooooo realistic..................

             

[Chrisadams3997]

And not all brown water is polluted , around where I live most creeks and rivers are muddy and so they are all brown, something that always annoyed me concerning the blue ploppable waters before.  Thanks Jeronij for all your work on this, it's really turned out great .

Chris

[Ennedi]

Jeronij, I understand you can be tired of some of my ideas , but would you like to show this water (especially the brown one) on the green background? It can be of course without these riverside decorations, I know they need much work 

BTW, I love this wasteland!!!

PS. DuskTrooper showed something interesting on the first (edit: sorry, second) page. Isn't any chance do make something like it?

[rooker1]

This work is very incrdible.  I for one like waht you have come up with and can't wait for it's release.  These three new colours are perfect for now.  Others will modify for thier own likings.



Robin   

[bat]

That is looking very beautiful, jeronij! Wonderful work!