ehbk2006's traffic BAT projects

[ehbk2006]

It's the little details on these things that are always so impressive. I haven't seen these in RL to make an accurate comparison, but I like what I see all the same. I know it would be a lot of work, but if there's a way to get these t21'd into a cantanery mod, it'd be pretty darn neat.
-Matt

T21's would be great, but is it possible to add multiple types of cantanery for one type of rail. Or do I need to make more types of rail, all with the same overlay texture but with other T21's attached to it?



Scale 100%:

[threestooges]

I'm the wrong person to ask about that. I know t21s are powerful but have little functional idea of how they work. I think Swamper, or choco would be good people to contact for a place to start. I know both of them are pretty busy, but they might be able to point you in the right direction if nothing else.

[Swamper77]

T21's don't use Lots, like the one shown in your picture. T21's are a single tile of a network with props placed on it. The T21 can also be given a pattern for the spacing so the props appear on certain tiles but not others. The tutorial that I made is here: How to create T21 exemplars (Swamper77's way).

Basically, I use the Lot Editor to place my props on a 1x1 tile to get the positions of them. Then I copy the props to a T21 exemplar using the Reader. The Reader is the only tool I know of to make/edit T21 exemplars.

To do the curves, diagonals, and intersections with other tracks, you will need to make the props for those. You will need the normal orientation like you already have plus a diagonal version for the most part. If you are considering making them for the FARR as well, then you will need props rendered at 18.4 and 71.6 degrees as well.

If you want, I can set up a thread in my subforum in the BSC for you and I to discuss the inner workings of how the T21's are done plus handling for the props. You're also welcome to contact me via MSN <--

T21's would be great, but is it possible to add multiple types of cantanery for one type of rail. Or do I need to make more types of rail, all with the same overlay texture but with other T21's attached to it?

You can have multiple T21's each with a different cantanery prop for the network. However, they will inter-mix if you have all the different sets installed when you are laying out your network.

-Jan

[ehbk2006]

And what if you make different types of rail? So when you drag rail Type A you will have Dutch cantanery en when you drag rail Type B you will have Swiss cantanery, just like the difference between streets and roads. Is that a solution?   

[Swamper77]

And what if you make different types of rail? So when you drag rail Type A you will have Dutch cantanery en when you drag rail Type B you will have Swiss cantanery, just like the difference between streets and roads. Is that a solution?

The game only has one type of rail at the moment, at least until the Single Track Rail (STR) project gets released. Even when that gets released, you still only have one type of dual track rail and that is the Maxis default. If you're intending for one type of catanery for dual track rail and one type for STR, then that would work. There aren't any plans to make additional dual track railroads, that I know of.

-Jan

[gardenwong]

I think the cantanery in bigger scale (eg:1.15~1.20) maybe better
also, about the T21, maybe you can ask plunder in name team to share how to do

[royal]

The catenaries based on the Betuweroute are very pretty, like the original

Hope the Iron Rhine will have such catenaries, too 

[ehbk2006]

I think the cantanery in bigger scale (eg:1.15~1.20) maybe better
also, about the T21, maybe you can ask plunder in name team to share how to do

Already got a PM of him. 

[MandelSoft]

Can you make a ploppable version too? I prefer to plop my catenaries.

[ehbk2006]

Can you make a ploppable version too? I prefer to plop my catenaries.

No problem, I will make the same type of LOT's which are in the Belgian Track Objects Pack ( TE, Offset, Diagonal )

[plunderer]

Hi

I used the ehbk2006's cantanery props with T21 exemplar in drggable rail cantanery mod, look the image:



actually I've been completed the new drggable rail cantanery mod for NAM2009 that used 3ddz's cantanery props, but I don't want to release yet, because Andreas told me the SFBT team will make new cantanery props but I haven't see yet

[plunderer]

and some tiles in FARR puzzle piece (multi track and intersections, like the image) that I haven't found the suitable cantanery props, except SFBT cantaneries props, but I don't think that two different types cantaneries on the one rail is a good idea

[ehbk2006]

Looking good  , I shall create some special portals for the switches.

It will be a hybrid between:

and


I think this design is the most versatile.

The multi track type will be 2 tiles big.  The intersection type will be 1 tile big, I think it needs to be placed one tile lower than where the arrow is pointing.

I'll pm you when they are ready.

Btw. Are you also going to create a version with the HSL version?

[plunderer]

Looking good  , I shall create some special portals for the switches.
The multi track type will be 2 tiles big.  The intersection type will be 1 tile big, I think it needs to be placed one tile lower than where the arrow is pointing.

I'll pm you when they are ready.

Btw. Are you also going to create a version with the HSL version?

If want to appear all the same type, just set the prop exemplar of HSL and BET to the same IID, then choice only one of them to place in plugins directory, it will be appeared, not need modify T21 exemplar

But I would like to use BET prop on the normal rail also use HSL prop on the viaducts rail and rail bridge

[ehbk2006]

But I would like to use BET prop on the normal rail also use HSL prop on the viaducts rail and rail bridge

Splendid idea, some variation is always welcome. 

[plunderer]

if I want to replace to new props in the mod, must modify all the T21 exemplar, it will be take much time, I think I need two weeks to complete this job at least 

[ehbk2006]

if I want to replace to new props in the mod, must modify all the T21 exemplar, it will be take much time, I think I need two weeks to complete this job at least 

Take your time, because I'm only very active during the weekends.

Here's a preview from the intersection and the multi type:

[plunderer]

Take your time, because I'm only very active during the weekends.

Here's a preview from the intersection and the multi type:

I think remove the middle pillar of multi type cantanery will be better

and could you make the diagnoal props of the two type?   

[ehbk2006]

No problem, I will send them tomorrow via the pm.

[ehbk2006]

Today I finished the Beta version of the NL Special Gantry Pack (ploppable version), you can find it in the attachments. If there are no further problems I will remove the base-textures and release it.

All flavors in the pack:


Also plunderer is still busy with the T21 version of this pack.